Speaker 1: Hmmm, welcome back all the smoke twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Jack.
Speaker 1: We had a good last show with Michael Cooper and
Speaker 1: it all started when you took your hat off. Can
Speaker 1: you bless us again? Shake that shit? I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: thought I had nappy hair, man, My bad. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I do a lot of nay hair. Ship. Let you
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But no, not what y'all
Speaker 2: thought it was. Sorry, I think it looked good. Thanks,
Speaker 2: appreciate Hello. Who you came to see by my ship
Speaker 2: was nappy? Nah? The fuck you thought you could run
Speaker 2: your fingers through your if I wanted to. It's just
Speaker 2: not right now, man.
Speaker 1: We got one of the and like I said, he's
Speaker 1: still got a lot of a lot of time left
Speaker 1: on one of the greatest baseball players to live, ever,
Speaker 1: to ever, Grace the Diamond. I just found out I'm
Speaker 1: neighbors with him. I just moved to his street about
Speaker 1: eight months ago. We just ain't really ran and now
Speaker 1: we're cool, and yeah, we now we're fellowshipping man. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show, Mookie Betts, going on, fellas.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: First of all, First of all, congratulations fresh off of
Speaker 1: World Series. It's different your first Chip in l A.
Speaker 1: You guys didn't get to have a parade. Yep, we
Speaker 1: got to have a parade this time, and everybody's back outside.
Speaker 2: What was that like? It was?
Speaker 3: It was cool, man. It was a lot of people.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of people like some of those
Speaker 3: It was real cool.
Speaker 2: Keep at Boston. It wasn't a lot of people's interrupt
Speaker 2: them here for the rest.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people out there though. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of people in Boston too, wasn't it was. There
Speaker 4: was a lot of people there.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to see. But before he interrupted with
Speaker 2: his hate you were saying.
Speaker 3: Man, there was people like uh, I guess they climbed up,
Speaker 3: climbed up the light.
Speaker 2: Poles like you know, the A couple of people fell off. Yeah.
Speaker 2: One dude blew his handoff with fireworks. Oh man.
Speaker 1: They were active out there, bro, They were celebrated. You know,
Speaker 1: Lao died for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But we don't need y'all to we need we need
Speaker 3: y'all to come back to the games, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it was cool. But the one in Boston was
Speaker 2: cool too. Like we're talking about the doubles.
Speaker 3: I remember riding riding the boats and then we got
Speaker 3: to go on the water and everything that was it
Speaker 3: was dope.
Speaker 4: To you're you're you're a Red Sox fans. Yes, only
Speaker 4: because they're ready been to find way before.
Speaker 2: No. Yeah, I got a Red Sox film Josh Beckett. Josh,
Speaker 2: that's your home Texas. That's the homeboy from Texas.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that you became a whole you are you
Speaker 3: just a Beckett fan.
Speaker 4: I'm a Red Sox fan, but I've been a Red
Speaker 4: Sox fan since John.
Speaker 1: He became a gang banger in his late teens, and
Speaker 1: there because they're because there's red in their name.
Speaker 3: He likes to think that you and Wayne are friends.
Speaker 2: That's one of my close friends. Okay, So that's why
Speaker 2: you like to Red. That's definitely not why I'm Red. Okay.
Speaker 4: So I have Josh Becker, Jack Jersey and all that
Speaker 4: sign but and he actually came to my games. But
Speaker 4: when he became a Red Sox player, I became a
Speaker 4: Red Sox fan.
Speaker 2: I've been a diehard Red Sox fan ever since. So
Speaker 2: he came to some of your games, yes, but you
Speaker 2: ain't never go to none of its. Never been the bar.
Speaker 1: They were friends like him. Who needs enemies. I'm a
Speaker 1: good friend of them. If you need me, I'm here,
Speaker 1: just call me. You still, get out of there, back outside.
Speaker 2: I know what ship?
Speaker 1: Remember you got a job now? The fifth inning meltdown
Speaker 1: with the Yankees. What are you guys thinking of that clubhouse?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: We were just like you just got to take it one,
Speaker 3: one play at a time, just because it's the big leagues.
Speaker 3: Like for something like that like that to happen, that
Speaker 3: is like wild. Like you guys have played sports, so
Speaker 3: you I mean you played professionals, so you know, like
Speaker 3: for a team to mess up once is one thing
Speaker 3: twice like whoa okay again, you know, and I mean
Speaker 3: we took advantage of it. So it was it was cool.
Speaker 3: You know, it was cool whatever we got a dub.
Speaker 2: You don't need to go to the Cowboy game. Actually,
Speaker 2: neither of those teams are very very so are you
Speaker 2: a Cowboy fan? Hard? My whole life, man, he's all backwards. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like blame it on the weed. That is hard. I'm
Speaker 2: cool watching on TV.
Speaker 4: I don't need to be there because you can't smoke there,
Speaker 4: Like I need to be somewhere you can smoke before
Speaker 4: you go. I need to smoke during during Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: and I could.
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 4: You know I worked hard to be able accomplish that.
Speaker 4: Quickny story, real quick. We was at the Netflix. I
Speaker 4: don't even think I told none of you guys. We
Speaker 4: was at the Netflix that the Tyson Paul ship during
Speaker 4: the fighting. We're down in the little dugout VIP area
Speaker 4: waiting for some fights and Mike Epps come tap me
Speaker 4: on the back and be you want to smoke.
Speaker 2: I'm like, hell yeah.
Speaker 1: So we walked through the back. He walked the securities
Speaker 1: like all right, I got him. So me and Mike
Speaker 1: and one of his homeboys walked through the back, through
Speaker 1: the bottom of Cowboys Stadium, then up on the ramp
Speaker 1: and they just let me and Mike smoke there as
Speaker 1: people are driving in. Jerry Jones drove down as we
Speaker 1: were out there, spoking.
Speaker 2: Great memory. I wish I could experience that. So you
Speaker 2: he would you do? Would you go? If you could
Speaker 2: do that? You can smoke out, if you can smoke
Speaker 2: in the attended down this stadium. I have never been
Speaker 2: to a football game. What's the point of your Cowboys
Speaker 2: fan of being there? It was I was there with boxing,
Speaker 2: I was working. Yeah, Earl Spence was sold out. Why
Speaker 2: wouldn't I be there?
Speaker 3: Okay, if you can really be a fan, you ain't
Speaker 3: never really went to the games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't never I ain't never been no games.
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm a fan.
Speaker 1: Said, I'm sorry, I just never been. Major League Baseball
Speaker 1: hasn't had a back to back champ since the two thousands.
Speaker 2: What do you think it'll take for you guys?
Speaker 1: Obviously I know as a player you're not looking like that,
Speaker 1: But what do you think it'll take them.
Speaker 2: For you guys to get back to where you were
Speaker 2: last year?
Speaker 3: I mean, really really the same, like the same thing
Speaker 3: we did. I mean a lot of times you get
Speaker 3: in trouble in baseball, especially where you try and be
Speaker 3: better and it's already hard, Like the game is already
Speaker 3: super hard, and so we really just got to do
Speaker 3: the same thing. The front offices is doing an amazing job,
Speaker 3: like adding on to our teams. Like so it's like
Speaker 3: you need anything else, I mean, like you can always
Speaker 3: you start team, But what's the problem.
Speaker 2: What's the problem, Like, it's not that's not our fault.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, it's nothing, and so yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: give us a ten like add nothing Lebron as well,
Speaker 3: especially in baseball, like you know, it's for everybody to
Speaker 3: be on at the same time. It's stuff, and so
Speaker 3: you get a lot of really good guys in the clubhouse.
Speaker 3: It ensures us, gives us a better chance to win.
Speaker 3: And then you just stay healthy. I mean, if we
Speaker 3: can stay healthy, I think that will give us a
Speaker 3: legitimate something.
Speaker 4: Players like you and like two dominant big players like
Speaker 4: this on the team at the same time playing their
Speaker 4: best baseball.
Speaker 3: I mean when he was him and Trout were on
Speaker 3: the team together, you know, that was you know, but
Speaker 3: I mean that that kind of lets you know, like
Speaker 3: it's not even just meo tiny Freddy's it's like the
Speaker 3: rest of the guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just just just.
Speaker 3: Like anything else you need to you really need a
Speaker 3: whole team doing.
Speaker 1: Talk to us about Freddie Freeman family issues off the field,
Speaker 1: you know, battling through injury and to come out and
Speaker 1: hit the Grand Slam and hit the ball the way
Speaker 1: he hit the ball when he was in his self.
Speaker 1: Talks about obviously him, but the character and the type
Speaker 1: of person he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He uh, what you see is pretty much what you get.
Speaker 3: The only thing that people don't know is like his uh,
Speaker 3: the fire that's that's lit within him because he does
Speaker 3: a really good job in masking it. So, but Freddy
Speaker 3: has some fire in him, especially during the games. And
Speaker 3: so when he gets going, like when he puts that
Speaker 3: uniform on, he he still smiles, but we switch, yeah,
Speaker 3: to switch that turns on. And so he had all
Speaker 3: those things going on. But what I admired about it
Speaker 3: is like his ability to separate him tune it out,
Speaker 3: you know, and like, you know, just like anybody else,
Speaker 3: we all have stuff going going on. But his ability
Speaker 3: to separate the family issues and then the injuries and
Speaker 3: this that and the other, like and really just lock
Speaker 3: in on, I'm going to take care of my job.
Speaker 3: And man, he was to see him get ready, like
Speaker 3: he really didn't practice before a game. He couldn't, and
Speaker 3: he's he was a creature of having He's probably the
Speaker 3: top three people I know that has the same habit
Speaker 3: every day, no matter a routine, every day, no matter
Speaker 3: if they got hits or didn't get hits, because you know,
Speaker 3: baseball super superstitious, and he couldn't he couldn't do his
Speaker 3: routine he couldn't do any of that, and so usually
Speaker 3: guys kind of freak.
Speaker 2: Out if you don't. He won EVV you superstitious? Are
Speaker 2: you superstitious? You have to be as a baseball.
Speaker 3: I think you do, because like we look at it's
Speaker 3: it's simple stuff like I mean you you guys could know,
Speaker 3: like at six o three, I do this and by
Speaker 3: six o three, I mean I have to be done
Speaker 3: by six oh seven because then I have to be
Speaker 3: here at this time.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I wore the same clothes, you know, because we're getting
Speaker 3: washed every day, so you pretty much are putting on
Speaker 3: the same uniform over and over again. So you know,
Speaker 3: you you score thirty, you probably gonna put these same
Speaker 3: draws back on.
Speaker 2: You might not wash them though, that's nasty. Yeah that's
Speaker 2: not truely either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Josha, we wash everything that we just wear it again,
Speaker 3: like we wash everything. But there may be holes because
Speaker 3: I wore these when I scored third or I got
Speaker 3: I went ten for twelve one series and these are
Speaker 3: the ones I wore. I'm gonna always wear these until
Speaker 3: they proved to me that they don't work them.
Speaker 4: How often would you wear a brand new uniform like
Speaker 4: the whole things pants and.
Speaker 3: Top my pants. If they slightly start to get tearing them,
Speaker 3: I'm kidding about. I get them out. I don't like
Speaker 3: holes and stuff.
Speaker 2: What about shoes off? Do you change shoes? Cleats?
Speaker 3: I probably change every two and a half weeks or
Speaker 3: so three weeks because we know I him like ten
Speaker 3: days at a time and then.
Speaker 2: I'm home, I'm home or away, so.
Speaker 3: I don't wear that same pair of cleats for ten
Speaker 3: days or whatever, so I switch him. You know, I
Speaker 3: try to stay fresh, like that's that's my work uniform.
Speaker 3: That's the only thing. I don't really do a whole
Speaker 3: lot of dread. I'm not like a flashy guy, so
Speaker 3: like I don't. I don't really do drew like. I
Speaker 3: would rather spend my money, like on bowling or something
Speaker 3: where I can go travel. Thank you my homeboy back home.
Speaker 3: He creates them for me. So yeah, he shut out
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, Tani.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about him on the field and how incredible
Speaker 1: he is, but what is he like off the field?
Speaker 2: Is there is there? Does he speak any English? Ship?
Speaker 2: Does he got any jokes? He got some jokes, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. Honestly, you don't see him. You don't
Speaker 2: see him.
Speaker 3: No, you can't really see him. Okay, he's he's that
Speaker 3: person that he just he literally cannot go anywhere.
Speaker 2: He can't live a normal life.
Speaker 3: And so it kind of sucks, right like we after
Speaker 3: we leave the stadium, you don't see him, and it's
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: He can't he can't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: So but what's he like in the locker room when
Speaker 1: he's cool, He's just be chilling, like he's really he's quiet.
Speaker 3: He only hit this year, so you know, he was
Speaker 3: kind of hanging out chilling. Then he started throwing a
Speaker 3: little bit when he would go outside throw and then
Speaker 3: come back. And he never never worked way too much
Speaker 3: and never worked a little.
Speaker 2: He just did what he needed to do. And I mean.
Speaker 3: He's just more gifted and more gifting, just better than
Speaker 3: everybody and there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 1: On the field, I mean, you've seen him do some
Speaker 1: incredible things. Hopefully he gets back to the mound this
Speaker 1: upcoming year. But you know that the hitting, we actually
Speaker 1: went to a game that you guys went back to
Speaker 1: back game the game, but you know, just to kind
Speaker 1: of see that that energy. But what is he like
Speaker 1: as just a guy out there on the field or
Speaker 1: you know, whether he's just hitting or on the mound.
Speaker 3: He's really he's really normal, Like it's just what he
Speaker 3: does is so unnormal. Like he's really normal in his preparation.
Speaker 3: He goes and talks and he competes.
Speaker 2: He doesn't.
Speaker 3: He's not more of a competitor than that I am.
Speaker 3: He's just you know, and so you know, everybody sees
Speaker 3: you know, they see him as a normal guy. We
Speaker 3: all see him like, you know, it's just show. But
Speaker 3: then you know, he goes put up fifty to fifty,
Speaker 3: you know, and wins every award in the world, and
Speaker 3: he's like, damn, yeah, you know, you forget like he
Speaker 3: show hell.
Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic. The title comes down to you and them.
Speaker 1: Yeah they got y'all. Yeah, that's against his former teammate.
Speaker 3: We got O tiny dog, we got O tiny A
Speaker 3: lot of teams do. Yeah, he did the whole country
Speaker 3: of the USA. He did the best of the which
Speaker 3: is why and listen, you know how cold he is
Speaker 3: right there he did and he went through you know,
Speaker 3: the top of the lineup as well, and so yeah,
Speaker 3: that was that was a cool experience. You know, teams
Speaker 3: being able to put on that uniform. That was that
Speaker 3: was amazing. That that was amazing. How I'll play that
Speaker 3: was cool.
Speaker 4: You are considered as one of the craziest athletes in
Speaker 4: the world five nine to condunk bowl to three hundred,
Speaker 4: and they say you can solve a.
Speaker 2: Rubik's Q in two minutes.
Speaker 3: I was actually at the stadium when I did it.
Speaker 3: I did it on camera two minutes. Yeah, but that
Speaker 3: was back in the day. Man, I could I could
Speaker 3: do it. I don't know if I could do it
Speaker 3: in two minutes now, but I can definitely do it.
Speaker 1: But also, I mean I heard, you know, we got
Speaker 1: mutual friends and you pick a ball, you shut keV
Speaker 1: out and pickle ball.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I didn't bring that up, cave.
Speaker 1: I brought it up because Kevin Harvey talking all the pickleball.
Speaker 1: He built a big old, big old thing.
Speaker 2: He look at this.
Speaker 1: We played pickleball here like the big old ship, just
Speaker 1: beautiful views.
Speaker 2: And it said, Mookie beat the ship out of this.
Speaker 2: Boy couldn't even get a point on him. That's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was bad, but that you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're gonna play again and hopefully he can score.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully you can score this time.
Speaker 2: Tell us about your passion for bowling.
Speaker 3: I was bowling before anything, so before baseball, basketball, football, everything,
Speaker 3: and so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love bowling. Man.
Speaker 3: It's something that me and my mom did together, like
Speaker 3: we bowld lead together growing up. Until every Saturday I
Speaker 3: was growing up, I was in a bowling alley probably
Speaker 3: four days a week.
Speaker 2: What's your average?
Speaker 3: My last book average, which was two years ago, was
Speaker 3: two thirty two.
Speaker 2: Geez ye.
Speaker 3: So but I mean bowling is like that's that's therapeutic
Speaker 3: for you. Yeah, Like I got lanes at the house, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: Like when I want when I'm just chilling, like most
Speaker 3: people going to I just go.
Speaker 2: When we do a bowling time, we know who want
Speaker 2: out to damn it right, I'm bowling my bowl.
Speaker 3: I bowl pretty much every day because it's at the house.
Speaker 3: And then every weekend I'm sure going somewhere. I was
Speaker 3: in Seattle bowling. I've got to go to Florida the Bowl.
Speaker 4: I go to Vegas the Bowl, Arizona the Bowl, obviously
Speaker 4: everywhere around here.
Speaker 2: To bowl. You travel with your bowling balls yep, spin yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I used to take I usually carry nine with me
Speaker 3: when I go, you got spin balls and spare balls
Speaker 3: carrying nine balls all spin really spin. Yeah, okay, I got,
Speaker 3: I got probably I probably have fifteen I got rid
Speaker 3: of I used to have like fifty sixty I had
Speaker 3: to get.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is ridiculous. Are you a pro?
Speaker 2: I don't want to get my card now, okay.
Speaker 3: Because if I get my PBA card, then I can't
Speaker 3: bowl in a lot of these tournaments, okay, and then
Speaker 3: I only have really four months to really bowl.
Speaker 2: So when baseball's all said, then would you go pro? Nah? Okay,
Speaker 2: it's not worth it.
Speaker 3: There's no okay, there's no money it, Like I would
Speaker 3: just be paying to go ball, and if you don't win,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna hint.
Speaker 2: No point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I every time I catch, like I know
Speaker 3: it seems simple, but to me, like I've never won
Speaker 3: a bowling tournament. I've came in second a couple of times.
Speaker 3: But like when I cash in tournaments, like I'll pay,
Speaker 3: like I'll pay like two hundred or something to get
Speaker 3: into the tournament and then like I win. Let's say
Speaker 3: I win like three hundred and three to twenty or
Speaker 3: something like that's three hundred earned. I mean obviously you
Speaker 3: have fun and I'm having fun doing and it's fun
Speaker 3: and it's hard, like it really is hard, yeah, to
Speaker 3: find that same spot on the lane every time. It's yeah,
Speaker 3: And it's the only game really that you you can't
Speaker 3: see what's going on.
Speaker 2: It's constantly changing. It's a lot to it.
Speaker 4: You are basically considered as the modern day gold at
Speaker 4: thirty two years old. You've already won three three World Series, MVP,
Speaker 4: six time gold Glove on a seven times silver slug,
Speaker 4: a batting champion, plays shortstop and cine center field.
Speaker 2: Basically can do it all.
Speaker 4: Do you ever have thoughts of considering yourself as one
Speaker 4: of the best, that well, the best to ever do it?
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think about it. That ain't That's not like
Speaker 3: a goal of mine. I do it just because I
Speaker 3: love doing it. I love I love the grind, I
Speaker 3: love the I love going to the park and knowing
Speaker 3: that I'm not going to figure it out, but it's
Speaker 3: fun when you when it does click, and so then
Speaker 3: you just chasing, like chasing that high.
Speaker 2: Over and over and over again, and that that.
Speaker 3: That parts funded me, like the processes and stuff like
Speaker 3: that is I just really enjoy, and.
Speaker 1: So I think what you said is interesting because in
Speaker 1: baseball is the more professionals for where you feel more
Speaker 1: than you succeed.
Speaker 2: So just to know that I'm not going to figure
Speaker 2: it out. But when it clicks, it clicks.
Speaker 3: When it clicks, it's it's it's magical, it's magical, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like that's that's just what I enjoy.
Speaker 3: And so all those things are are cool, it's but
Speaker 3: that doesn't really.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, cool, you know it is it is when.
Speaker 1: You get our age, when you get old and gray
Speaker 1: hair on your face like him, that's when you start thinking.
Speaker 2: About like, yeah, I was a bad motherfucker. Yeah I see, But.
Speaker 4: You know when you when when you're peers start to
Speaker 4: saying I think that's more gratifying.
Speaker 2: Than yeah yeah and not yeah, I mean but whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: There's there's so many good guys, good good players. And
Speaker 3: that's why I don't even think about it really because
Speaker 3: seeing what show Hay has gotten to do with Mike Trout,
Speaker 3: even though he's gotten hurt, like I.
Speaker 2: Wish healthy, you know, if he just didn't.
Speaker 3: Get hurt, I just wish I hope he plays next year.
Speaker 2: And just not get hurt, and I just want to
Speaker 2: see how good is he? Though, because you've seen him in.
Speaker 3: It, I think I think the same thing about show
Speaker 3: is the same thing about Mike Trout.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: But he just like because when he plays, when he's
Speaker 3: it's crazy, it's crazy. So I'm like, yeah, that's my home.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, man, I don't know what you know.
Speaker 3: Obviously you need. We ain't gonna do with that is
Speaker 3: that's between him and God. I ain't got nothing to
Speaker 3: do with that. But if God man, lets that man
Speaker 3: be healthy one year. Dude, I think he gonna go crazy,
Speaker 3: but we're gonna see.
Speaker 4: I asked you this earlier, and this question is for
Speaker 4: Ray and g ninety miles in the backcage and ninety
Speaker 4: miles from the picture.
Speaker 3: Can you answer that? Yeah, I think nobody. I think
Speaker 3: nobody here would hit either.
Speaker 1: Ninety But seeing wasn't old series. But this is when
Speaker 1: he was thirteen. This Nigga's forty five. Hold on, I
Speaker 1: got a question. I'm glad, bro, I'm glad you're here.
Speaker 2: Bro. They'll be disrespecting in the MLB, man, I played
Speaker 2: all the way up till I was seventeen. I was
Speaker 2: colder in baseball forty five, by the way, now asked
Speaker 2: Oakland asked Jimmy Rollins. Jimmy Rollins was on my team.
Speaker 1: I got okay, so hold on, listen, hold on, let
Speaker 1: me break this down there. So what happened was so
Speaker 1: I made a bet him and the dude and that
Speaker 1: it was just like just just hit it. But I
Speaker 1: think it was like eighty because one lady said it
Speaker 1: was ninety and the other dude said no, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: But I still paid. I still paid. This ship wasn't ninety.
Speaker 1: I have a question, Hold and listen. Listen for some
Speaker 1: kind because we want to get some content.
Speaker 2: Can you get us to.
Speaker 1: A pitching cage or a picture that can throw ninety
Speaker 1: and we can make some some bet, some some bets
Speaker 1: on that and film it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, oh wait, okay, yeah, that that could
Speaker 3: eat very easily happened. But is it just like only
Speaker 3: fastballs or is it mixed?
Speaker 2: No, it's ninety. I don't care what it is.
Speaker 4: It's ninety long as it's ninety.
Speaker 5: Miles Poud, I don't care what it is. Straight you
Speaker 5: can coach your eyes it. Yeah, if there's ninety, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna close my eyes and put it right right there.
Speaker 2: I'm just not got to swing right there. I don't
Speaker 2: care where you put it. Okay, okay, okay, that's different.
Speaker 2: It ain't got to be no strike. I mean, ain't
Speaker 2: got to be no fastball.
Speaker 3: Long up, down, anywhere.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: But on a machine like if you just swing in
Speaker 3: the same spot, you'll just accidentally hit it Maine typically.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's only it's gonna be within say that.
Speaker 1: You said you can hit eighty left, say the pitching
Speaker 1: dynamic is completely different than the bat case.
Speaker 2: But they were trying to act like we couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: You guys hit eighty. I haven't even seen you hit
Speaker 2: ninety yet. They didn't hit ninety though. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 2: mean we can. Yeah, we're we can. Set there. Let's
Speaker 2: say something up right, thank you? Moving along? Yeah, moving along?
Speaker 2: Don't it? Is hitting the baseball and hardest thing sports?
Speaker 2: I think it's. Yeah, I think it's by far off.
Speaker 2: I think that and being a cornerback in football.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure corner Like that's a different athlete that
Speaker 3: that's the two hardest positions in sports to me, I mean,
Speaker 3: two hardest things to do.
Speaker 2: Be a cornerback and hit a baseball. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: You'll I feel like you have a better chance. Now,
Speaker 3: I'm not debating anything. You have a better chance looking
Speaker 3: up in the quarterback making a bad throw or something
Speaker 3: and stopping the receiver. There is no chance you're getting
Speaker 3: lucky to hit a baseball.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, real ship,
Speaker 2: that's crazy chance.
Speaker 3: Let me hap baseball is like I do it every
Speaker 3: day and I'll be hitting that thing.
Speaker 2: So what goes to your mental approach when you walk
Speaker 2: into the plate? Man? All right, so I gotta get
Speaker 2: in that mod. Okay, hold on what song? What song
Speaker 2: is played? I don't even know. I don't even know
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do this year. I gotta I gotta
Speaker 2: figure out what I'm gonna do this year.
Speaker 3: But my favorite, my favorite right now is put it
Speaker 3: on the Floor by Lotto. But anyways, I think, really,
Speaker 3: what what I'm thinking about is don't fuck it up.
Speaker 3: And when I tell myself that, like I say that
Speaker 3: all the time, and then I tell moo, don't say that.
Speaker 3: Don't say that, And by the time I'm stepping in
Speaker 3: the box and.
Speaker 2: Then I just play.
Speaker 3: So I have those I have like these bad thoughts
Speaker 3: that I really have been trying to fix. And then
Speaker 3: when I get done, when I get done with that
Speaker 3: argument with myself, I just play. But I gotta go
Speaker 3: through the argument because if I get happy thoughts, then
Speaker 3: I'm like ah, and then you know, the intrusive thoughts
Speaker 3: start and then I don't know. I've just learned to
Speaker 3: argue with myself and then cut it off as soon
Speaker 3: as the games, as soon as I step.
Speaker 2: In the box.
Speaker 3: That it sounds weird and it sounds but that's just.
Speaker 2: What I do.
Speaker 4: That's how you get yourself ready. Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4: Who determines the strike zone? You got a picture when
Speaker 4: you're at.
Speaker 3: Bat, that's a move, that's a moving target right there.
Speaker 3: It depends on who's pitching. Sometimes it depends on who's refereeing,
Speaker 3: okay or umpiring. Sometimes it depends on who's catching. So
Speaker 3: if there's a good catcher back there with a good picture.
Speaker 3: And I don't know this, but this is kind of
Speaker 3: how the game is played. Just when you know Bron
Speaker 3: is playing, he may or MJ is playing or whoever, right,
Speaker 3: they may get a couple more calls than the next person.
Speaker 3: Then a rookie, Yeah, you know what I'm saying, then
Speaker 3: a rookie going. Now, we got a rookie up there.
Speaker 3: You know they used to be but like now now
Speaker 3: a lot of it is umpiring because umpiring is so hard.
Speaker 2: They it's tough for those guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm like fifteen no hitters on Major League
Speaker 4: to show so my strike zoners, my strike zone is crazy, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see I'm lefty.
Speaker 3: You got your rookie though it's some rookie.
Speaker 4: Well, I actually know when the game first came out. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was just drawing ship on rookie and I was
Speaker 4: posting it. But I'm up to the top level now,
Speaker 4: I'm up to All Star.
Speaker 2: But the way he said it like it was a
Speaker 2: reason about to tell us something.
Speaker 4: No more, Oh, ain't superstar yet, right, I'm right before
Speaker 4: a superstar.
Speaker 3: So you got fifteen no hitters with the Red Sox.
Speaker 2: No, I got drafted astro. You know you gotta go
Speaker 2: to the minors. This is you, this is you.
Speaker 4: It's Stack five, it's me Afro all that, it's me
Speaker 4: actual player, great face all that, it's actual me on
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 2: And you got hits.
Speaker 4: I played, I pitched, then I played first base on
Speaker 4: the other games I'm meeting leaguing home runs all that
Speaker 4: ship no, no stolen basis on slow as hell.
Speaker 2: Nice. I ain't mad at it. Definitely a matter. That's
Speaker 2: why I asked that question because I played the game.
Speaker 4: You got to play baseball, be around the game to
Speaker 4: ask that type of question, Like, y'all you feel me.
Speaker 2: That wasn't that wasn't on. There definitely wasn't that I
Speaker 2: did that. I'm surprised that my black press movement, I
Speaker 2: did my job.
Speaker 1: Man, the decline in the Black American player in the nineties,
Speaker 1: it was about twenty percent, It's under ten percent now.
Speaker 2: Any rhyme or reason why there's.
Speaker 1: The growth of other sports is at the expense to
Speaker 1: be able to get what you need to get in
Speaker 1: the lower levels as a child.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's the expense mostly the expense thing,
Speaker 3: and then there's just not enough. Like there's a lot
Speaker 3: of guys that play like that are around the league,
Speaker 3: but there's not like a lot of like really good
Speaker 3: dominant players in baseball back black players especially, And so
Speaker 3: I mean, the culture and everything is so different in baseball,
Speaker 3: and you have to just grow up in it and
Speaker 3: stay in it because once you kind of get away
Speaker 3: from it just for a little bit.
Speaker 2: A lot of people start.
Speaker 3: Playing baseball and then they start playing other sports or
Speaker 3: get around their friends and others that play on sports
Speaker 3: and do other things, and you just kind of follow
Speaker 3: away from baseball and it's not as fun and whatnot.
Speaker 2: So it's really hard, man.
Speaker 3: But it's gonna take just more black dominant players first,
Speaker 3: because we just have to be an example, Like we
Speaker 3: have to have kids look on the TV and say
Speaker 3: that they.
Speaker 2: Will yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's what it was in the nineties. I bet
Speaker 1: all the way through the high school, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and there was a dominant black players being
Speaker 1: and I guess now it's I mean, it's a huge
Speaker 1: Latin influence in your guys, Dominican influence in your game,
Speaker 1: but it before has been known as a white man's game.
Speaker 1: Have you faced any racism during your journey.
Speaker 3: No, I haven't, But you know, I came up in Boston,
Speaker 3: and I've heard stories about being in Boston. I had
Speaker 3: a great experience. I do think that a lot of
Speaker 3: my great experience had to do because I did play
Speaker 3: well in Boston. I think if you did not play
Speaker 3: well in Boston. Maybe the out maybe things are a
Speaker 3: little different. I don't know, but I thoroughly love Boston.
Speaker 2: And my experience there. It was great.
Speaker 3: But really, I mean, I don't I don't know that.
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot is trying to they're they're
Speaker 3: trying to, like a lot is trying to change as
Speaker 3: far as getting the black players, and it's just, man,
Speaker 3: it's just our job to be better players.
Speaker 2: You know. That's we have to rise to the top
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty two plus playoffs. It's long ass season.
Speaker 2: How do you what? What?
Speaker 1: What's that mental grind like over the season? And I
Speaker 1: know in basketball we kind of have waves of when
Speaker 1: you start the season is fun, then it dies off,
Speaker 1: Christmas is fun, and now it's kind of the dog
Speaker 1: days of the NBA up until All Star Break, and
Speaker 1: then after All Star Break is time to rock. You
Speaker 1: got six weeks before the playoffs. Do you guys have
Speaker 1: that kind of marathon or is it just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same thing. I mean, everybody starts the season,
Speaker 3: we're super excited. You know, you created a new routine
Speaker 3: this year, and you're gonna do this this year and
Speaker 3: you're gonna be different this way. This year and X,
Speaker 3: Y and Z, and then you get like a month
Speaker 3: in the month and a half, a month and month
Speaker 3: and that happened, and you're just like, man, I'm tired.
Speaker 2: We got a game tomorrow.
Speaker 3: We're getting in at three am, and we got a
Speaker 3: game that same day. Your family there, so you got
Speaker 3: to entertain your fam and your homeboys come in, so
Speaker 3: you got to entertain them, knowing that you got into
Speaker 3: three last night, so you really need to get some
Speaker 3: sleep because the games, and then you got a day
Speaker 3: game tomorrow, but you didn't get to see your fam yesterday,
Speaker 3: so you got to see them tonight.
Speaker 2: Just a lot that goes on, which is all a blessing.
Speaker 3: You know, you want your family there, and it just
Speaker 3: becomes hard, man, it becomes really really hard. And so
Speaker 3: then once you get the August is a month.
Speaker 2: Where everybody just like that's the wall. That's the wall.
Speaker 3: Once you get through August, you're kind of going somewhat downhill.
Speaker 2: And and then.
Speaker 3: Playoffs, obviously, you know, once once playoff time starts, you
Speaker 3: get that that second wind and then you pop it
Speaker 3: really rock for.
Speaker 1: The casual fan and and not allowing any Dodgers in
Speaker 1: this who are five guys.
Speaker 2: That you really like in the game right now for.
Speaker 3: The casual fan, five guys, there's so I mean, there's
Speaker 3: so many people that I that are really good. But
Speaker 3: I mean, I really enjoy watching Corvin Carroll in Arizona.
Speaker 3: There's so many people. I love watching Acuna, which I
Speaker 3: think everybody really knows about Acuna Seeger Cory Seeger in Texas,
Speaker 3: and that's one of my good buddies and I love
Speaker 3: I love seeing him with specially in two the MVPs.
Speaker 2: Really, the whole pitching.
Speaker 3: Staff in Seattle, the whole pitching staff in Seattle is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: And so when they yet Castilla, like all of them
Speaker 3: there are are ridiculous. So those games are always fun
Speaker 3: to watch and then really uh as quiet as it's kept.
Speaker 3: I enjoy watching Red Sox games.
Speaker 2: You still because of Korra.
Speaker 3: I love Alice Cora, and I enjoy watching Red Sox
Speaker 3: games because I enjoy Like people think I hated, people
Speaker 3: think I didn't want to be there and that was
Speaker 3: all a facade.
Speaker 2: Like it's still business. Business is business.
Speaker 3: You have to be able to separate business from personal,
Speaker 3: not being personal, like my personal relationship with Boston, as.
Speaker 2: I said, I loved it, absolutely loved it.
Speaker 3: And so I get to I still talk to the
Speaker 3: front office people there, and like I said, Ac and.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 3: I love Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love where
Speaker 3: I'm at now. I love that Robertson being a Dodger's
Speaker 3: been probably the best thing that's ever happened in my life.
Speaker 3: But I absolutely love.
Speaker 2: What happened out there. Man championship. They just they didn't
Speaker 2: want to. It's just businessman like. It's business is business.
Speaker 3: Like you know, people trying you cannot blend the two,
Speaker 3: like you just cannot do it. As bad as I
Speaker 3: want to, can't do it. You can't do it. And
Speaker 3: once you try and do it, that's that's when not
Speaker 3: the best things happen, not necessarily bad things.
Speaker 2: But not most optimal either. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And for the best outcome for Mookie Bets in his family,
Speaker 3: I had.
Speaker 2: To take care of business. Yeah, you did, That's it.
Speaker 2: But emotionally, no, I loved it, man, Like I said,
Speaker 2: I still watch the games, heard that Tennessee upbringing. Can
Speaker 2: you paint the pooch to paint the picture.
Speaker 3: Of young Mook, Yeah, man, young mook man growing up.
Speaker 3: My parents are amazing I had an amazing childhood growing up.
Speaker 3: I was around I got to hang out with my friends.
Speaker 3: Only kid, so my mom and my dad let me
Speaker 3: go do whatever. I want to hang out with my friends,
Speaker 3: let my friends come over.
Speaker 2: I mean, my.
Speaker 3: Dad would take me to the quote unquote white area
Speaker 3: to go play baseball, and then I was going to
Speaker 3: the hood to hoop, and then I was going to
Speaker 3: the bowling alley, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Then I was going back.
Speaker 3: To the hood to play football. So I really got
Speaker 3: the best of both worlds. I really, I really did.
Speaker 3: And my dad did an amazing job put me in in.
Speaker 2: What ethnicity are you? Oh? Just straight black? Okay? Just
Speaker 2: light like right, yeah like skin so but yeah, no, man,
Speaker 2: I like he did.
Speaker 3: He said he was going to put me in both areas,
Speaker 3: and he always put me with the best coaches. My
Speaker 3: dad had a really good I didn't know, but you know,
Speaker 3: my dad had a really good job growing up. When
Speaker 3: I was growing up, I had no idea and so
Speaker 3: I just knew, like anytime we needed to go to tournament,
Speaker 3: anytime I wanted a new bat, a new glove, cleats, whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't know where it came from. I just know
Speaker 3: my dad may.
Speaker 2: Hap happenings so and so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, growing up, I had the best coaches, had
Speaker 3: access to everything, and my mom and dad just at
Speaker 3: that point, they really just put drive and uh, I
Speaker 3: can't even drive really in me, like discipline. They put
Speaker 3: discipline in drive in me.
Speaker 2: Was your dad an athlete at all? Yep? Both my
Speaker 2: mom and my dad both athletes.
Speaker 3: And so they're both competitive, like playing cards whatever it
Speaker 3: no matter, we're gonna compete. You know, my mom she's
Speaker 3: probably top five, she's I bet you she can go
Speaker 3: pound for pound with Kevin Garnett talking ship.
Speaker 2: Really, So, is your dad like Tommy or you knew
Speaker 2: what he did? Yeah? I knew what he did. I
Speaker 2: knew he did. He worked, he worked for the CSX railroad.
Speaker 4: Okay railroad. Oh yeah, had a bag. Yeah he had
Speaker 4: a bag.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 3: And so I'm thinking, you know whatever, and then I
Speaker 3: go like it was simple things like I didn't realize it.
Speaker 3: But now looking back on it growing up, like we
Speaker 3: would go to at the time, you know, old Charles
Speaker 3: was popping applebeans, was popping all them places, was popping it.
Speaker 3: So we go with my white friends, you know, but
Speaker 3: my baseball team because all those were white. I was
Speaker 3: usually only me and one other kid, were only black
Speaker 3: guys on the team.
Speaker 2: And so we were going.
Speaker 3: To these restaurants, expensive restaurants, and my daddy never batter
Speaker 3: than I at it. You know, we're going to spend
Speaker 3: fifty seventy bucks on dinner, and most people, especially my
Speaker 3: friends in the hood, like that was never happening. We
Speaker 3: were never going to Applebee somebody mama was cooking, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But now we're going, and so
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be I'd say, Daddy, you know what, can
Speaker 3: I get whatever you want? You know, Like I didn't
Speaker 3: batter I, but like that's the kind of up bringing
Speaker 3: I got, and so you know, I was really really blessed.
Speaker 2: They worked hard for that. It's conflicting.
Speaker 4: Mentioned that your name Mookie came from Mookie Blaylock or
Speaker 4: Mookie Wilson, which one is true?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mookie Blaylock. I didn't even know. Hey, you know
Speaker 2: about Mookie Blayl. The truth I'm talking about lockdown. I
Speaker 2: have no idea.
Speaker 3: Like my mom and dad said, they love Mookie Bloke
Speaker 3: like growing up, so that lets me that, that lets
Speaker 3: me games.
Speaker 4: So tell me about him like he was he was
Speaker 4: a big chiefer he oh yeah big, but Mookie was
Speaker 4: one of them guys. He had offense too, but he
Speaker 4: was a all game So what like what like? I mean,
Speaker 4: you had a real one respect from everybody. He was
Speaker 4: a real one point guard? Yeah, yeah, everything. Is he
Speaker 4: hall of famer?
Speaker 2: Now, no, he's not a Hall of famer.
Speaker 1: He got a Hall of Fame respect from his peers.
Speaker 2: He is peers is okay? Okay? How long did he play?
Speaker 2: Been a ten twelve? Ten twelve? Solid? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. Yeah, well that's what I'm named. I'm
Speaker 4: named of somebody solid, definitely well respected. Might not be
Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame. We ain't gonna have be
Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame. We got more respect.
Speaker 2: H Yeah.
Speaker 4: Who are are your athlete heroes? You have any athlete
Speaker 4: hero that made you fall in love of baseball?
Speaker 3: I don't know that I have any athlete heroe.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Growing up, I didn't really watch sports because I was
Speaker 3: the only kid I played them. I had video games,
Speaker 3: and I would play video games and then I would
Speaker 3: get bored and go go outside and throw a ball
Speaker 3: against the wall or something. So growing up, I didn't
Speaker 3: really watch uh sports. Really, I just was good at it.
Speaker 3: And like I said, I had the coaches and all
Speaker 3: this stuff. But I didn't really love baseball. I didn't
Speaker 3: love any sport actually other than basketball. I love playing.
Speaker 4: I love hooping, going to the hood, the hoop, leaving
Speaker 4: with a bloody lip for this.
Speaker 2: That's what I love. You still think you're nice? Huh huh?
Speaker 4: You still think you're nice? You talking about hoop? You
Speaker 4: still think you're nice. I could go home my own hooping.
Speaker 2: You still thinking nice? How are you talking about? He
Speaker 2: still thinking nice? And hoop?
Speaker 3: I look, okay, I understand it.
Speaker 2: I understand. I understand it now.
Speaker 3: I understand it's uh but but no, man, I really
Speaker 3: it took it took. It took me really going through
Speaker 3: the grind to learn to learn. I had to learn
Speaker 3: to love baseball. I didn't love I didn't love anything
Speaker 3: but basketball, and I just kept playing it because I
Speaker 3: was good at it, I mean, and my dad was like,
Speaker 3: come on, man, we got to play this weekend this
Speaker 3: weekend because I wanted to go hoop.
Speaker 2: I wanted to go play football or whatever.
Speaker 4: And uh, but my dad knew I was good and
Speaker 4: he didn't he knew all was going on.
Speaker 3: I had no idea all the stuff was going on.
Speaker 3: He kept all that away from me. And Uh, I
Speaker 3: really didn't love baseball until I got really got to
Speaker 3: the big leagues.
Speaker 4: I was just good at it. But your dad's seen
Speaker 4: that at a young age. He say, yeah, he's seen
Speaker 4: young He knew I was good, but I didn't know
Speaker 4: I was good. I just knew I was better than
Speaker 4: everybody else, but I wasn't really paying attention to it,
Speaker 4: like you know whatever. And so I got to the
Speaker 4: bigger eason I learned that grind, that grind, that every
Speaker 4: day grind.
Speaker 2: That's what taught me to learn baseball. To love baseball,
Speaker 2: gotta fall in love with the grind. Uh.
Speaker 1: Your senior in high school, MVP of your conference? In
Speaker 1: the hoop game, Oh god, out.
Speaker 2: Of your game? Who who you play? Like? I can't
Speaker 2: wait to give me your NBA come nobody? Nobody?
Speaker 3: I mean like, no, I probably averaged I mean I
Speaker 3: really averaged like fourteen points a game, but it was
Speaker 3: almost a double double. Yeah, I almost averaged double double.
Speaker 3: So I really control the game. Like I'm not out there.
Speaker 3: I'm nowhere near a star by no means like I can.
Speaker 3: I can control the offense and make it.
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna lose it for us. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: lose it. I won't win it, but I'm not going
Speaker 2: to do that. But I will.
Speaker 3: I will put it in the man's hands. I guarandemne that.
Speaker 3: So if you need it, I'll do all the dirty work.
Speaker 3: You and I got you.
Speaker 2: You can hit a wide over, jump it off the double.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I got the hoop with Brandon Miller a couple
Speaker 3: of times when he was in high school and then
Speaker 3: right before college, and like that was right up my alley.
Speaker 3: All I got to do is bring it up the court,
Speaker 3: give it to him, give it to me, and I'll
Speaker 3: give it to him and I'll play defense. So that's
Speaker 3: really But I was just more athletic and better than
Speaker 3: everyone in my area.
Speaker 2: So that's what that came. You have a dunk on somebody.
Speaker 3: Now, I only got one dunk high school, so but
Speaker 3: I could dump.
Speaker 2: But like I'm going through dug right now. Still. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's only thirty two. Yeah, I know, I know how
Speaker 2: I was fitting at thirty two. I stopped dunking all
Speaker 2: right now, Bert, you was flying, I was.
Speaker 3: I was playing when I was playing with you, I
Speaker 3: was playing with you in a game, but he was
Speaker 3: flying through the.
Speaker 2: Lane right leg. That right leg he got big calves.
Speaker 3: Hey, I want to ask you, so I know you've
Speaker 3: answered it before, but I haven't heard it. And I
Speaker 3: know all y'all know to just bear with me. When
Speaker 3: you did like that and he didn't.
Speaker 2: Move, that had you up.
Speaker 1: No, I wanted to fight him because he didn't move,
Speaker 1: just because he was being an asshole that day.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about just that move. But it didn't even
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: It didn't cross my mind until after when I saw
Speaker 1: how close the ball was to his face, because I
Speaker 1: just I wanted to fight him. That's what I was asking.
Speaker 1: If it would have hit him, I would have been
Speaker 1: cool with it, Like there's some people don't realize.
Speaker 4: Somebody taking the ball out and faking it in somebody's
Speaker 4: face anyone. That was the first that's ever done in
Speaker 4: the NBA as well.
Speaker 1: So Kobe prob was like and done by me too
Speaker 1: and thinking that it's never been done before, so he
Speaker 1: probably was shot.
Speaker 2: That's when he was stone Comb.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, what does this nigga just do that?
Speaker 2: That's from out of bounds blame it on the weed man.
Speaker 2: That's so funny now.
Speaker 1: It was just it was it was It was funny.
Speaker 1: We talked about it in our last it's a five
Speaker 1: year anniversary of our interview with him. In like three days, right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We actually talked and laughed
Speaker 1: about it. We were just laughing, like I thought.
Speaker 2: He said, what did he say? Like? Did he say? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's how I became a Laker? Was that off season?
Speaker 1: He me on the phone on like a blind call.
Speaker 1: I was about to go to the Heat. He's like,
Speaker 1: you want to be a Laker. I'm like hell yeah.
Speaker 1: Like three days later, I was a Laker. Nice, that's
Speaker 1: how we became cool. But yeah, I was. I was
Speaker 1: ready to do whatever that day.
Speaker 2: That's cool. That's funny. That's funny.
Speaker 1: Basketball, baseball, golf. But mamas wouldn't let you play football.
Speaker 1: My parents would let me play football to high school.
Speaker 1: That was actually my best sport. Yeah, receiver resignation and touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Was fast, could jump, could catch? That was my ship.
Speaker 1: You loved it, but wasn't allowed to play it. How
Speaker 1: tough was that?
Speaker 2: Did you? Because they said he became a manager.
Speaker 3: No, I wish I was a manager. I uh no,
Speaker 3: it was tough. I played football starting at eight tackle
Speaker 3: tackle and then I was quarterback up until.
Speaker 2: Eighth grade. You know, I was good man.
Speaker 3: I mean easily I would have played high school and
Speaker 3: I probably could have played like some scrambling scrambling throwing whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like even not now is because that it's
Speaker 3: not like it's big out here. But when I lived
Speaker 3: in Nashville a couple of years ago, like I still
Speaker 3: play flag and every time that's dope like so, but
Speaker 3: I uh, I was water boy in high school.
Speaker 2: Water boys.
Speaker 1: The best athlete probably in the whole entire state was
Speaker 1: the water boy for the football team.
Speaker 3: That was my way because a lot of my friends played.
Speaker 3: So that was my way to not have to pay
Speaker 3: to get into the games to watch the game. And
Speaker 3: I get to stay in there and watch the games.
Speaker 3: And I didn't have no pride, like I'm getting get
Speaker 3: my boys.
Speaker 2: Water driven, ain't driven.
Speaker 3: You can talk, you won't be okay what it is?
Speaker 2: How often do you hear that? All right?
Speaker 4: Bro, Okay, they know what I'm laughing at.
Speaker 2: Bro. He tried. He can't get away from it. Oh, Ray,
Speaker 2: Violet wasn't even his phone. His water bottle made the noises.
Speaker 2: His water bottle just made the noise. And time he
Speaker 2: own more, he owed more? Okay, he oh more?
Speaker 4: That's crazy. His water boty loves to cush ups. Cushups.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, he gotta do thirty more. That's crazy.
Speaker 4: Your water bottle went off.
Speaker 2: Water. You can't win for losing, bro, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Committed committed to Tennessee initially, and then the baseball scouts, uh,
Speaker 1: somehow were able to pull you over to the diamond
Speaker 1: in the fifth round in twenty eleven. Draft your senior
Speaker 1: out of high school? What made you decide to take
Speaker 1: that jump?
Speaker 2: Money? Okay, money, if.
Speaker 1: I'm being honest, that bread at your botty, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: it was before n I l Yeah, you wasn't killing
Speaker 1: inn il in college. Would you play a couple of
Speaker 1: sports now? If you were going to go to college now,
Speaker 1: would you play a couple of sports?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and get that bread and get that bread
Speaker 4: like absolutely?
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I was. I mean my dad was
Speaker 2: making good money.
Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
Speaker 4: Like I don't care what kind of money you're making.
Speaker 2: Like mainteen, I'm on I'm eighteen years old. Let's go.
Speaker 2: That's a good thing about baseball.
Speaker 1: You're going to historic franchise like the Red Sox, Like
Speaker 1: what is what's that like?
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know.
Speaker 4: Okay, you're just going to play baseball. Yeah, I'm going
Speaker 4: to play baseball. Okay, it's the Red Sox. Like, okay,
Speaker 4: well we'll see, you know, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: And so I went, and I didn't really realize all
Speaker 3: the history behind the Red Sox until I got like
Speaker 3: almost to the big leagues, Double A, triple A.
Speaker 4: How long did it take you to get through the
Speaker 4: farm system Two and a half years, So it was quick.
Speaker 2: I went through real quick.
Speaker 4: And some people spend years down a lifetime, some people
Speaker 4: spend a lifetime career out this shit?
Speaker 2: What was that? What was that grind? Like?
Speaker 1: Because my first year I got drafted and cut and
Speaker 1: I was in the G League. Back then, that shit
Speaker 1: was terrible, Like what was the what was the grind?
Speaker 1: The travel, the lodging, and then obviously getting to the top.
Speaker 1: It's a lot different, but what was it like back then?
Speaker 3: Looking back on it, it's a grind. The bus rides
Speaker 3: are what are really are terrible long, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean like you're staying in the hotel room. I'm not like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we do get nice hotel rooms and stuff, but like
Speaker 3: I can go stay at the day's in or something.
Speaker 2: I don't really about it that much.
Speaker 3: So like staying in the hotel rooms wasn't like, wasn't
Speaker 3: that bad. But the bus rides and the and the
Speaker 3: and the food and the parks were playing.
Speaker 4: It were just so bad. Like some of them were
Speaker 4: so bad, which made it tough.
Speaker 3: But but the people, the relationships that you build is
Speaker 3: it makes it all worth it. It makes it all
Speaker 3: And you remember all those people, and you remember those
Speaker 3: hotels and you remember all that that stuff. So honestly,
Speaker 3: with it being bad, like I really had a good time.
Speaker 2: I really had a great time. Any of the guys
Speaker 2: you come up with become stars.
Speaker 4: It's a whole bunch of motherfuckers come through that, bros.
Speaker 4: I'm from portalf to Texas, So like around Gross and
Speaker 4: Baumut and Negland, you got a lot of baseball schools
Speaker 4: where a lot of those kids get drafted out of
Speaker 4: high school and they built in the papers coming in
Speaker 4: high school and they get weird, they get drafted. We
Speaker 4: never hear about them again, but they had a long
Speaker 4: career in double, A, triple and something like that, but
Speaker 4: you never hear about like when they get drafted, like oh,
Speaker 4: he's gonna be the next mixed thing, but you never
Speaker 4: hear about it.
Speaker 2: To get in the big league.
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of them make it like
Speaker 4: they you know, played for a couple of years, this,
Speaker 4: that and the other, but like.
Speaker 3: Nobody sustained a career. It's just like you need some
Speaker 3: guys to stay around for a little bit, but not
Speaker 3: like just like anything else.
Speaker 1: So if you not necessarily being a baseball fan growing up,
Speaker 1: I was a huge baseball fan in the in the
Speaker 1: steroid era of the nineties was huge. I was going
Speaker 1: through high school. The choirs, the Bonds, the Sosas, the
Speaker 1: home runs that really to me put baseball back on
Speaker 1: the map at that time when it was needed. Thought
Speaker 1: song guys like Bonds and Sosa that have that stigma
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously rest in peace, Pete Rose. We
Speaker 1: just lost Pete Rose, who wasn't in but it wasn't
Speaker 1: for stere wars, just for other reasons. Guys like that
Speaker 1: that kind of that we all know were great players,
Speaker 1: but maybe never see the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: What was your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4: I mean, that's tough because you know there's there's just
Speaker 4: two sides to it, and you know there's your opinion.
Speaker 4: You know, you can stand. There's no real gray area.
Speaker 4: It's like did you use steroids.
Speaker 2: Or not, and whether whether it did didn't whatever.
Speaker 3: Actually doing the act of hitting the baseball over and
Speaker 3: over and over again, like that takes just pure talent,
Speaker 3: Like for him to take balls, and every.
Speaker 2: Time he hit the ball it was a homer crazy Like.
Speaker 3: That's just some of that. I mean, I'm not saying
Speaker 3: did it I don't know about none of that. I
Speaker 3: just that's just pure.
Speaker 1: Talent hitting the ball, because he was hitting the ball
Speaker 1: before he started getting the biggest That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know, it was already not with the pirate, right,
Speaker 3: so like what he with those guys, they were already
Speaker 3: they didn't like.
Speaker 1: That didn't help them. If they took it, it didn't
Speaker 1: make it. They were they were already them.
Speaker 3: They were already them, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: you know, it really just depends on I mean.
Speaker 4: I think you should be in, but you know, it
Speaker 4: just depends on who you are, Oh game, Yeah.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: Thoughts on do you pod during the season? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do so. Guys like Paul George who's in the Space
Speaker 1: and his show. You know, he was taking heat early
Speaker 1: on because people said that he had had more podcast
Speaker 1: episodes than games played.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 1: But you, I mean, as someone as baseball baseball is,
Speaker 1: like you said, you don't figure that you were going
Speaker 1: to feel a lot in that game and still be successful.
Speaker 1: Have you faced any heat or felt any kind of
Speaker 1: way where maybe you're not necessarily playing well, that your
Speaker 1: team's not playing well, but you're still doing a podcast.
Speaker 2: Have you took any heat for that? Yeah? I take
Speaker 2: heat all the time. I mean.
Speaker 3: I did a part with the Tatis during when we
Speaker 3: were in the thick of it playing against them, we
Speaker 3: were both playing for first place, and we did a
Speaker 3: podcast together. Really when I started it, really the whole time,
Speaker 3: the whole time, I've really gotten gotten.
Speaker 2: I mean I've gotten a lot of.
Speaker 3: Good things, but a lot of a lot of bad
Speaker 3: things as well. And so they just you know, saying
Speaker 3: I'm spending too much time behind the camera, and X,
Speaker 3: Y and Z was since I got.
Speaker 2: To Hollywood, I'm doing this and that you know.
Speaker 3: Change I've changed in X, Y and Z, and it's
Speaker 3: like nah, man, Like the podcast has nothing to do
Speaker 3: with the game later, nothing to do with the game later,
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to be playing my whole life
Speaker 3: like I like, you can't wait till after well, and
Speaker 3: some people can't, But like me, I would prefer not
Speaker 3: to wait.
Speaker 2: Struck while the iron hot, while I iron hot.
Speaker 3: You get one chance, one opportunity. I'd be a fool
Speaker 3: to wait.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking from a fanst perspective. I'm seeing you
Speaker 1: with Tatis talk about game and life and everything as
Speaker 1: you guys are battling for numbers, Like I think that
Speaker 1: shit would be dope.
Speaker 2: I a same I thought the same thing.
Speaker 3: But like I think the die hard fans that are
Speaker 3: die hard Dodgers or die hard.
Speaker 2: San Diego don't want to see that.
Speaker 3: They don't want to see It's like, for a second,
Speaker 3: just we're humans.
Speaker 1: Like UCLA and USC, you're supposed to hate the other side.
Speaker 1: I never fell into that shit. Why just because y'all
Speaker 1: do that, don't mean about none of.
Speaker 2: That, No, I don't.
Speaker 3: That's my boy, Like when I see him, IM gonna
Speaker 3: chop it up with him. I'm asking about his family.
Speaker 3: I'm a holler at his brother, I'm a holler his
Speaker 3: mom and dad. I'm I'm gonna, you know whatever, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do all of that. You know that ain't got
Speaker 3: nothing to do when the when the lights turn on.
Speaker 3: He trying to take my head off. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: take care of it off.
Speaker 2: Period. Period.
Speaker 3: But as soon as it's off, it's a brotherhood. Only
Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty guys make it. Those are out
Speaker 3: of all the people, and the more those are your brothers.
Speaker 2: Gina, you got a question in the bag gino see
Speaker 2: hat the like, but why was you hating on it?
Speaker 2: Talk to him why? That's just what he do, That's
Speaker 2: what he's known for. But I'm a big fan.
Speaker 3: Like because they was talking ship about us, because they
Speaker 3: was talking ship about us, like the what did the
Speaker 3: podcast have to do with anything?
Speaker 2: Nothing?
Speaker 3: Okay, that was just something to be like, you know what,
Speaker 3: we're gonna be mad at the I'm mad at you
Speaker 3: for doing that podcast. Yeah, and if I did, if
Speaker 3: we didn't win the division, it was gonna be the.
Speaker 2: Podcast fall, no question. How does that make sense? Don't?
Speaker 2: But just just to give you a little context, to him,
Speaker 2: he's a he's a spokesperson.
Speaker 1: He loves he loves the Lakers and the Dodgers, and
Speaker 1: we have a segment on another show.
Speaker 2: He's the neighborhood hater. So but he's an insider.
Speaker 1: He knows all about you and everything about the Lakers.
Speaker 2: He's been talking ship. Don't he loves you. I hate him?
Speaker 2: Show up and he asked me what I want to hate.
Speaker 1: He's like, he's one of those delusional La fans where
Speaker 1: basketball's life. Baseball is like, you can't do nothing else,
Speaker 1: like you're just supposed.
Speaker 2: To be athletes.
Speaker 1: So that's who he is, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm separating it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, separate who is Mookie outside of baseball?
Speaker 2: Man, I'm trying to develop that right now. Man. I
Speaker 2: really feel like.
Speaker 3: Baseball is a section of my life, and it's a
Speaker 3: section I'm very grateful for, and it's a section that
Speaker 3: really has led me to be here today. It's led me,
Speaker 3: it's given me everything that I've gotten, and so I
Speaker 3: do want to always have that and honor that and
Speaker 3: pour back into baseball and whatnot. But I really feel
Speaker 3: like I'm an entrepreneur, I'm a dad. I want and
Speaker 3: I have this uh, this weird ability to play a
Speaker 3: bunch of different sports, and so I really want to
Speaker 3: like showcase and blossom in that along with being like
Speaker 3: the support.
Speaker 2: Of husband and dad and all those other things, and.
Speaker 3: The entrepreneur which getting into business and I have a
Speaker 3: production company, so like being on TV. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of I love being behind or in
Speaker 3: front of a camera, like I want to act. I
Speaker 3: want to try different things and expand my I really
Speaker 3: feel like I'm complex. I'm a really complex person. But
Speaker 3: baseball really kind of does a good job and defining me,
Speaker 3: or does a good job in getting me to where
Speaker 3: I want to be. Should I say, like places like this,
Speaker 3: But I'm going to really step out and broaden my
Speaker 3: horizon and see see what's out there, because you.
Speaker 2: Know, I got seven years left.
Speaker 1: I was about say, you've got a string of accomplishment,
Speaker 1: You're thirty two years old. How much long do you
Speaker 1: want to play that game?
Speaker 3: I got seven years left in my contract, and I
Speaker 3: love baseball, like I said all those things, but like
Speaker 3: twenty years, it will be nineteen years in the game.
Speaker 3: After nineteen years, like there's really nothing else for me
Speaker 3: to prove.
Speaker 2: There's nothing else for.
Speaker 3: Me to really do, like I want to be Like
Speaker 3: my dad was a little older when he had me,
Speaker 3: and so I saw that and I appreciate everything. The
Speaker 3: only thing I really didn't get a chance to do.
Speaker 2: Was like play a whole lot with him.
Speaker 3: Growing up, because he was like, man, I ain't doing
Speaker 3: all that running, but I'll play catching.
Speaker 2: I'll do all that with you.
Speaker 3: So now, like with my son, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 3: I still want to be able to run and play
Speaker 3: with him and do the same things my dad did
Speaker 3: with me, just a little bit younger, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And so and if I can get other
Speaker 3: opportunities doing other things, like now is the time to.
Speaker 1: Create, especially in the city, to create it. I'm saying
Speaker 1: fatherhood to you.
Speaker 2: What's that mean?
Speaker 3: It means the world? Man, I really it's hard. It's
Speaker 3: really hard.
Speaker 2: You got too too. I got to. I got my
Speaker 2: daughter and my son. And what's the ages.
Speaker 3: My daughter is six, my son is he turns he's one,
Speaker 3: so he turns to in April.
Speaker 2: And my daughter, she does not like sports at all.
Speaker 3: So now I'm trying to be the dad because I
Speaker 3: have only sports has been my whole life. Everything is
Speaker 3: so for us to miss each other on that. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: now I'm trying to figure out where I'm going to
Speaker 3: meet her at and she's starting gymnastics, and so there's
Speaker 3: a little competition element to gymnastics, so maybe I can
Speaker 3: meet her on that level.
Speaker 2: You probably do a double back, Yeah, I can do.
Speaker 3: I can do an I backed up and everything. I
Speaker 3: may try and learn some stuff, you know. But my son, man,
Speaker 3: he's uh, he's uh, he's starting to want to hang
Speaker 3: out with me a lot more now. April, Yeah, April
Speaker 3: as April.
Speaker 4: What is April eighth? I'm the fifth Solid April's aries. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's your Son's aries. He's April right, Yeah, Solid gonna.
Speaker 2: Be a star.
Speaker 3: But I but the thing is this, The thing is this.
Speaker 3: I got him playing golf.
Speaker 2: I love it. I got I got a golf club
Speaker 2: already already, and it makes me so happy. He likes it.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a star whatever you do. Yeah, is
Speaker 2: and he's in a great week. What age did you
Speaker 2: start golf? How old am I not? Thirty two?
Speaker 3: It's probably what twenty twenty one? A little later twenty
Speaker 3: one twenty two. I started playing golf a little bit,
Speaker 3: and now I got him. He's one running around with
Speaker 3: a golf club.
Speaker 2: So it.
Speaker 3: Puts a smile on my face every day because I know,
Speaker 3: as long as you live, son, if you hold a
Speaker 3: golf club, you will go to college for free, and
Speaker 3: you always gonna have something that that's it's gonna be
Speaker 3: business fun.
Speaker 2: You can play that till you die, and it's gonna
Speaker 2: be business.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be right like my dad put me in
Speaker 3: the right spots to be successful having a golf club
Speaker 3: in his hand, right, So I like that perspective.
Speaker 1: Sinker, live on a golf course, don't even go. It's
Speaker 1: beautiful and you gotta and you gotta an You got
Speaker 1: a golf cart with with twenties and.
Speaker 4: Speed that don't that that thattpating?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you. I'm the cleanest, right move. I'm the
Speaker 2: cleanest ride around there too. My golf court, my joining
Speaker 2: to the only.
Speaker 4: Thing I got golf Jordan golf shoes too. I'll be
Speaker 4: the cleanest out there, but I haven't been. But I'm
Speaker 4: wait for y'all to come. Y'all come take me out
Speaker 4: there for real, for real, right about it.
Speaker 2: I want to go. I want to go with you.
Speaker 2: Next time you're in Atlanta, let's go all.
Speaker 1: Right, easy done, easy done with move man. We appreciate
Speaker 1: your time. Before we get you out of here. We
Speaker 1: got some quick hitters. First thing to come to mind.
Speaker 1: Let us know, if you weren't a major league baseball player,
Speaker 1: what would you be doing?
Speaker 2: Bowling? Bowling?
Speaker 4: Easy pb aye, that's for sure, easy call one album
Speaker 4: on repeat.
Speaker 6: Right now, I'm gonna go with Kendrick the New not
Speaker 6: like us that uh, and that was nice.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: He went crazy with that. And I wasn't even like
Speaker 3: a Kendrick like. I was a Kendred fan like, but
Speaker 3: I wasn't like hard on Kendrick like that for real.
Speaker 2: And then he he did that.
Speaker 4: This is the This is the first album that I
Speaker 4: told him, this is the first album that I can
Speaker 4: listen to, like a whole bunch of songs, the whole
Speaker 4: bunch of one of the first one good kid could
Speaker 4: his first album. But you know, yeah, that's that's album
Speaker 4: clipp beat.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah, he got the ship on there. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Shoutout Kendrick, Shout out. Five Dinner Guests Dead are Alive.
Speaker 2: Five Dinner Guests U.
Speaker 1: Plus five Dead are Alive. Chopping it up having a
Speaker 1: good conversation.
Speaker 2: M l K. Jackie Robinson. I'm gonna go now this
Speaker 2: is me, my generation.
Speaker 3: Somebody that gave me to put that put the blueprint out, Lebron.
Speaker 2: That's the first time. So what's that, Lebron?
Speaker 3: Because of my profession the best hitter ever, which is
Speaker 3: Barry Bonds.
Speaker 1: Obama Salad solid five Salad rank them, Kobe, m J.
Speaker 2: Bron. Go all right, so Kobe m J. Bron.
Speaker 3: So is this is there any criterias? Just Frank Okay?
Speaker 3: So I would say probably Leron first, m J second
Speaker 3: than Kobe, And my criteria would be not just basketball,
Speaker 3: just the effect of everything.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I ain't mad at that.
Speaker 4: What would yours be? Well, I'm hold up, I'm kind
Speaker 4: of poser right there. You said the effect of everything.
Speaker 4: Bron had a big effect of everything than MJ.
Speaker 3: For I'm even like with the production company and what
Speaker 3: he's school. Okay, like like not just not just shoes
Speaker 3: or like you know what I'm saying, just.
Speaker 2: The whole package. Mine is reverse. I'm MJ. Cole Bron.
Speaker 4: Why Jay got hospitals and ship too? Now I just
Speaker 4: talk about killer.
Speaker 1: I like killers, and I think Bron gets knocked for
Speaker 1: it sometimes, but that's just how something like everyone has
Speaker 1: an opinion. Bron's great numbers are great, played a long time,
Speaker 1: He's changed, you know what he's been able to do.
Speaker 1: You know, number one score and me top five and assists,
Speaker 1: all the accolades. But to me, MJ and Co. Were
Speaker 1: just killers, and I love killers. I'm on the violent side.
Speaker 1: That's what I like. You know, I'm not for peace.
Speaker 2: I agree with him.
Speaker 4: Told I just if I had to put Broun at
Speaker 4: the top of anything, He's the best all around player
Speaker 4: we've ever seen.
Speaker 2: All around on the court. He can do it all.
Speaker 4: We've never seen somebody that size that can do everything.
Speaker 4: And I just don't like to. I think we live
Speaker 4: in the air now. If you love something or don't
Speaker 4: agree like you hate the other.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You, Mike, you gotta hate Broun. If you love Broun,
Speaker 1: you gotta hit like I salute. You could throw any
Speaker 1: of those three up. Those are the top three player
Speaker 1: to me, with all due respect to Kareem and some
Speaker 1: other people. To me, those are the three greatest basketball
Speaker 1: players of all time. So any of them one, two, three,
Speaker 1: I don't have any art.
Speaker 2: And there's many cases that you can say, I take.
Speaker 3: This guy a situation if there's no criteria.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what I'm saying, but like to your like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I wholeheartedly agree with you.
Speaker 2: Always better than me.
Speaker 3: Guilty pleasure, guilty pleasure, uh.
Speaker 2: Like food, guilty but anything.
Speaker 1: I can't stop beating oreos, I can't stop whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, CAM do none of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, what you're guilty.
Speaker 4: What's your guilty pleasure? I don't feel guilty doing it,
Speaker 4: so you just jack off anywhere.
Speaker 2: I don't feel guilty smoking, Okay.
Speaker 4: I smoke all day, every day in front of anybody, everywhere,
Speaker 4: So I'm not guilty.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I mean yeah, I like to indulge.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I like to indulge, So I guess that's my guilty pleasure.
Speaker 3: But really it's like my brain goes so so I
Speaker 3: want to ask you not to cut you off.
Speaker 1: Cannabi has made a huge jump in sports, like we
Speaker 1: were people who risk our careers to smoke it. I'm
Speaker 1: not really sure what Baseball's policies are, but I know
Speaker 1: all three major sports.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know this, but I always tell like, what's
Speaker 1: your why. People don't understand your why and what it
Speaker 1: does not that I'm aware of. It hasn't meant for
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I know there's so many people that
Speaker 3: think negative of it. Next Y and Z and I
Speaker 3: get it. Look, I'm not here for that. But for me,
Speaker 3: like after a game, my brain will not stop. I
Speaker 3: want to go over every play that happened, every pitch,
Speaker 3: everything that just happened.
Speaker 2: I have to analyze it.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to take yesterday that information, apply it
Speaker 3: to tomorrow's information.
Speaker 2: Then I got to watch the picture. Then I gotta
Speaker 2: you know how you do? You can't you brain off.
Speaker 3: I cannot turn my brain off, and if I will,
Speaker 3: I will be up until four in the morning, just
Speaker 3: mind racing. And so if I can just relax, that's
Speaker 3: the way it turned it off. I can turn it off.
Speaker 3: I can accept whether I was good day or bad day.
Speaker 3: That doesn't matter another day, like what I did good
Speaker 3: to day or bad today, it's irrelevant. I got a
Speaker 3: game tomorrow, and it's like I don't panic about the
Speaker 3: game tomorrow. Don I'm like, Oh, I'm gotta face this guy.
Speaker 3: He's gonna do this, this and this like what I mean,
Speaker 3: I face him. I know he's gonna do this whatever,
Speaker 3: let me get some sleep.
Speaker 2: I'm trust my work. I'm gonna trust my work. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 3: And so that's really it. Like that, that's that's that's
Speaker 3: really it. And my mom she was pissed about it.
Speaker 3: But I really like, I won't. I won't turn my
Speaker 3: brain off.
Speaker 2: I won't. I won't make it.
Speaker 3: No, I ain't gonna not like my addict. But like
Speaker 3: I just over over time, it will wear on me.
Speaker 1: I think we I mean, professional athletes have some kind
Speaker 1: of ice. I think to me, cannabis is the least
Speaker 1: on powder that bottle women whatever they be in trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only thing you're gonna do is get hungry.
Speaker 4: Watch too much TV, be happy, play video games. And
Speaker 4: what's wrong with that?
Speaker 2: Nothing? Nothing.
Speaker 3: You ain't never heard me in the news and nothing
Speaker 3: because I be in my room watching a TV show.
Speaker 4: Neither one of us whenever you ever heard of us
Speaker 4: when he was playing nothing, not one time, nothing, I'm
Speaker 4: ship but.
Speaker 2: You was.
Speaker 4: You was in a median for tree for tree for tree. No,
Speaker 4: I'm saying we went in the media for no tree,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 2: We did it. The right way on. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: only in the media for just yeah, we was violent.
Speaker 2: I told ye, like that's this was that like most
Speaker 2: what like what's that? What's this? Your your name is that?
Speaker 2: Like you just do you just kind of live in it,
Speaker 2: like the violence? It is what it is? You know
Speaker 2: what a violence? What a ke say? It was that
Speaker 2: that untreated childhood trauma? Yeah, yeah, you just let it
Speaker 2: out on the court.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just yeah. I was just you know, I had
Speaker 1: to I was mixed. I was that was one strike
Speaker 1: against me. I had to grind to make it. So
Speaker 1: sometimes people tried me.
Speaker 3: So when you so when they try you a little bit,
Speaker 3: you just fallom.
Speaker 2: Fallum, fight them, slap whatever. So was it before the game?
Speaker 3: Like I know that that I'm not saying put a
Speaker 3: bounty this x y Z, but like before the game,
Speaker 3: was you like, man, I'm Finnah getting his ship today?
Speaker 1: I mean that was my mentally a time. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't on no, like no, like I'm gonna heard him typing.
Speaker 1: I was lucky enough to be the guy that got
Speaker 1: to guard the best player every single night. So that's
Speaker 1: Kobe no matter what, Like I'm in night out, it's different.
Speaker 2: So how did you do that? I guess you didn't.
Speaker 2: Did you try and play offense too or not? No?
Speaker 1: I mean I took advantage of it. I mean I
Speaker 1: was something like the score, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I played. I figured out my role early, and
Speaker 1: I think that's why I was able to play so long.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of guys think they can do
Speaker 1: something and want to do something, but that's not necessarily
Speaker 1: was needed. I did what was needed. That's why I
Speaker 1: played until I didn't want to play no more. But
Speaker 1: I think I hung my hat on being the guy
Speaker 1: that got every night. I got to guard the best
Speaker 1: players in the world. So how did you prepare for that?
Speaker 1: Like if you knew Kobe was, you had to guard code.
Speaker 2: Or name name Bron, Like, what did you do smoke?
Speaker 2: We didn't watch film.
Speaker 3: But okay, so what film? When you were watching film?
Speaker 3: What film? So we could apply to something that you
Speaker 3: could see.
Speaker 1: We would have We would have breakdowns and moves and
Speaker 1: tendencies and habits similar to what you look for pictures.
Speaker 2: I know, and to too. He like to throw.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking like when you know, when Bron does this,
Speaker 1: when Coked does that, or when Kevin goes left and
Speaker 1: pulls up like those are you just watching those tennessees
Speaker 1: over and over again?
Speaker 2: You ain't stopping them, you know, just yeah, just to
Speaker 2: make it tough and everyone swallowing a hard out of
Speaker 2: you and make.
Speaker 4: You stopping Covid Lebron what you waste your time? You're
Speaker 4: gonna be up all night thinking about nothing. Just making
Speaker 4: is not gonna happen. You want to make them work.
Speaker 4: It's not gonna have the.
Speaker 1: Fact great offense is always gonna be good defense, but
Speaker 1: you just want to make them work. You know, takes
Speaker 1: for thirty two. I wanted to take thirty shots. I
Speaker 1: want to take thirty shots, thirty score thirty two. I
Speaker 1: wanted to take twenty seven to thirty shots. Don't make it.
Speaker 2: Work and you just accept that.
Speaker 3: So at what point did you have to accept that
Speaker 3: mentality because these motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give them thirty and try to stop.
Speaker 2: But Jack was someone that can also score, Like I
Speaker 2: was like, what did you do?
Speaker 4: Because was your was your I was just hooping whom
Speaker 4: he was doing a lot.
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't do too much for him.
Speaker 4: You like touch and feel like you wanted to do
Speaker 4: what you see that that but like a lot of
Speaker 4: my stuff came out see like a perfect example, he said,
Speaker 4: Like it's different approaches when you have a teammate like him,
Speaker 4: Like I played with great uh supporting cast, Like even
Speaker 4: in Charlotte had Joe Wallace Indiana, I had ron a test,
Speaker 4: so I had him. So a lot of nights, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be some nice woman have to really play defense
Speaker 4: on the guy. My scoring might be not as high.
Speaker 4: There's gonna be a lot of nights where Mac gonna be.
Speaker 4: He gonna start Matt and Ma can just take him
Speaker 4: and I can do a little bit of both. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But my approach is the same
Speaker 4: every night. I'm just hooping on both fans. I'm playing
Speaker 4: hard on both fans. Whatever happens happens.
Speaker 2: And that's because he that that was his role. Though
Speaker 2: if he was a score defender, I was more of
Speaker 2: a defender and knocked down play maker. He was a
Speaker 2: playmaker too though I could.
Speaker 1: But like I said, I just play, and I played
Speaker 1: on different teams. When you play with Kobe, you know
Speaker 1: you gotta find your your.
Speaker 2: How was that playing with another star? Incredible? He was incredible.
Speaker 1: Job we had so weird power and Andrew Byingham too
Speaker 1: ran our test was on our team.
Speaker 2: We had a solid team. You know, my I couldn't
Speaker 2: blend in anywhere on and off the court. I'm gonnalend
Speaker 2: it anywhere. So I just you.
Speaker 1: I'm a student of the game. I love the game,
Speaker 1: so I love to study the game. I love to
Speaker 1: watch the game. I love to analyze the game and understand.
Speaker 1: Like I always put myself like, Okay, I'm watching the game.
Speaker 1: Where can I still to this day? Where can I
Speaker 1: be effective in this game? What don't they do what
Speaker 1: I can do? Where I can go in and plug
Speaker 1: in and be effective.
Speaker 2: So I got but I know we got to go
Speaker 2: one last question. I know I'm not trying to do
Speaker 2: with you, but like.
Speaker 3: I've seen, I've gotten to play with Showy obviously, and
Speaker 3: I've seen, yeah, y'all play the best players in the world.
Speaker 3: What I argue to think is the best player in
Speaker 3: the world do best player in the world shit? And
Speaker 3: like I've seen him single handedly take over a game
Speaker 3: and win a game. And that's crazy to say in baseball.
Speaker 3: In baseball, single Handley took over the game and won
Speaker 3: the game. So I want to know like when Kobe
Speaker 3: or Brown or whoever y'all play with, Like actually getting
Speaker 3: to witness somebody single handed lead over in win a game.
Speaker 2: Game six NBA Finals.
Speaker 4: I want to hear about like Dalkin twenty points, like
Speaker 4: eighteen rebounds, ten assists, eight blocks, quadruple double in game
Speaker 4: six to win the championship, Like you got to be
Speaker 4: out of this world to do that, And he's and
Speaker 4: he was, and he we end up having the best
Speaker 4: record of the year. He ended up winning the MVP.
Speaker 4: So he watched the I watched his greatness that whole
Speaker 4: year every night though. He did it every night, and
Speaker 4: it wasn't just scoring points. I was just telling y'all,
Speaker 4: it's nice. Well he got double team and he just
Speaker 4: picked the teams apart. Wasn't even worried about scoring. So
Speaker 4: he did whatever he had to do for us to win,
Speaker 4: and he did it every night. To my super unselfish
Speaker 4: as a superstar. Coach can talk about him, get in
Speaker 4: his face, Coach, do that to me. I'm ready to
Speaker 4: fight him. I can't play no more because I want
Speaker 4: to fight. You know what I'm saying. He the best
Speaker 4: player on our team. He take it, go out and
Speaker 4: destroy shack. You know, remember the year he had because
Speaker 4: the Lakers was going to a four peat. Tim Duncan
Speaker 4: destroyed everybody that year and I was able to witness that.
Speaker 1: I probably say cold and just and not one game
Speaker 1: stands out, just his mentality every single game at a
Speaker 1: certain time, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean, Like when he got down the
Speaker 4: crunch time or something, just period, motherfucking balls period. You know.
Speaker 1: So what so what would you do, like just get
Speaker 1: out the way he would he whistle like that and
Speaker 1: you got like two seconds to get him the ball.
Speaker 2: Everybody hey at the end of the game. Everybody in
Speaker 2: the world though, Yeah, so if you would let you know,
Speaker 2: like when you hear that, it's like okay.
Speaker 1: I mean there were some guys that would look him
Speaker 1: off sometimes and if you made it cool, if you didn't,
Speaker 1: he was you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But he was.
Speaker 1: He was a rider, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 1: was one of those superstars that did everything. He played
Speaker 1: through injury like he had me and run our tests
Speaker 1: on his wings like arguably me and him, and run
Speaker 1: on on defense like it. You know, it was hard
Speaker 1: to do, but it would be sometimes if a dude
Speaker 1: hits a couple of shots some of mere run and
Speaker 1: get the go guard someone else.
Speaker 2: I got him, bro, we got it.
Speaker 1: We like we argue with them sometimes because he would
Speaker 1: still after scoring his thirty, he would still want to
Speaker 1: guard the best player too, And like Jack said, they're like,
Speaker 1: now let me and run handle that. You go be great,
Speaker 1: you go score fifty, will guard this and we'll do
Speaker 1: all the dirty work. So he was just such a
Speaker 1: competitor that it wasn't one particular game that it was
Speaker 1: just a mentality every single no matter who we play,
Speaker 1: no matter how hurt he was, he's out there.
Speaker 3: In those last three minutes, like when he's pretty much
Speaker 3: just getting involvedy every time down the floor.
Speaker 2: Like it's just it's gotta be something cool to It's amazing.
Speaker 4: We got We was lucky to play them and we
Speaker 4: was in Golden State. We played them in back to
Speaker 4: back nights. We played them in La Here in La
Speaker 4: meant I had a great game. I think I had
Speaker 4: thirty something of his three threes at the end to win.
Speaker 4: He hit like two to tie at the end of
Speaker 4: the game, and we ended up winning by a point.
Speaker 4: We played them the next night because he was so
Speaker 4: mad that we beat him. He came out and gave
Speaker 4: us forty two in Golden State and they beat us.
Speaker 4: So that type of person he was the next night,
Speaker 4: he was he couldn't wait till the next night. But
Speaker 4: he like, he wasn't even the same like Norman what's
Speaker 4: up before that? He was a totally different guy showing
Speaker 4: up the next night. And to me, that's what I
Speaker 4: never he he got to play for Jordan. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you played again. I never got a chance
Speaker 4: to play with Jordan. But it's ship like that, Like
Speaker 4: they didn't let nothing slide. Nothing nothing slide, and there's
Speaker 4: no knocking against Lebron.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I loved the flips. I love that every time Lebron
Speaker 1: will make the right play. I love that part of him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But to me, I like killers.
Speaker 1: I like people who want to kill. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: liiver die with the decisions I make. I'm the most.
Speaker 2: Time. I'm shoot that bitch, and if I make it,
Speaker 2: we win. If we lose, we don't. If I don't,
Speaker 2: we don't lose. I just like that.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Let's let's finish. Let's finish this up. Best food
Speaker 1: spot in l A. I know you don't get out
Speaker 1: a bunch. But what's your best food spot? Oh, best
Speaker 1: food spot in l A.
Speaker 2: M hmm. I don't know that I that I have
Speaker 2: the best one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I really like. I really enjoy going
Speaker 3: to ty Show.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, good up the street.
Speaker 4: Have you been a boulevard I've been to Bulevar the owner. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: I'm friends with them. But Show is probably favorite spots.
Speaker 4: It's a sushi infusion. Yeah, go ahead, Jack. If you
Speaker 4: could wear three types of shoes for the rest of
Speaker 4: your life, what would you pick three?
Speaker 3: Yeah, types of shoes. I would probably go with my
Speaker 3: common projects. Common projects, that's my my golf swag.
Speaker 2: That's your company. No, okay, that's what you're wrong with.
Speaker 2: That's what I like. I heard them. So you don't
Speaker 2: play in Jordan's. You, Well, that's like it goes.
Speaker 3: I wear it like they go. When I go out,
Speaker 3: I usually like to wear my common projects. Okay, then
Speaker 3: it usually looks like I'm about to go play golf.
Speaker 3: I would say. I would say my Jay's because I
Speaker 3: can go up and down with those.
Speaker 2: There's versatility versus versatility.
Speaker 3: And then uh, just a pair of molded cleats because
Speaker 3: that way I can play any sport I want.
Speaker 2: If you could see one guest on all the Smoke,
Speaker 2: who would it be?
Speaker 4: But if I could see one guest all the smoke,
Speaker 4: But you have to help us get your answer on
Speaker 4: the show. One guest on all the translated.
Speaker 2: On for it. I'm gonna be realistic. But you.
Speaker 3: Does it have to be a player? Be anybody, anybody.
Speaker 2: That ain't been on all this song? Mm hmmm. I
Speaker 2: don't have friends like that. For him, I'll be kicking
Speaker 2: with my son and we'll take trout that might not
Speaker 2: be his friend like that recommended.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're neighbors now, we can be friends. Uh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, you got one.
Speaker 2: New, you got one more though, Yeah, you got one
Speaker 2: more though. Yeah. I want to be with him out
Speaker 2: against him, I play.
Speaker 3: I don't really have no friends that I would recommend
Speaker 3: to come on.
Speaker 1: I like the honesty. I don't really not forgive me.
Speaker 1: Don't think I'm just getting because you know what you're
Speaker 1: coming into when.
Speaker 2: You're walking in here. You gotta know what you're coming
Speaker 2: into now, I mean.
Speaker 4: Here like the professional trap, professional trap, professional trap man.
Speaker 1: Well, before we get out of here, we've got to
Speaker 1: for you coffee table book, some of our boxing.
Speaker 2: Merch okay, our tour shirts. Yeah, let me throw a
Speaker 2: couple of action in bit, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, bro, Thank you, sir Yes, sir man, that's
Speaker 1: a rap, mookie betch.
Speaker 2: Go.
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Speaker 2: We'll see y'all next week. M hm hm