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Speaker 1: in Hollywood, Florida thanks to the hard Rock Bet, and

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Speaker 1: And I think we match up fine with Spain. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, it's just there's so many things

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Speaker 2: And but your point about I saw your our colleague,

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446
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Speaker 1: United States for the last ten years, and that is

447
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449
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451
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Speaker 1: these you know, financiers in New York. We have separated

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453
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Speaker 1: lot of these soccer stars to get into the MLS

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Speaker 1: to get Ken Griffin a financier of Citadel. He's the

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Speaker 1: one that paid for Pochatino, Yes, he's so. The reality

456
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Speaker 1: is rich guys like to be part of good momentum

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Speaker 1: and cool stuff. Correct, And if we can get to

458
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Speaker 1: a final eight, I can see a world in which

459
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Speaker 1: we're like, we're going to go over there and we're

460
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Speaker 1: gonna make big bids, try to get some better plays.

461
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: Because Fouler and remember was only valer Badgan is only

462
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Speaker 1: on our team eligible because his flight attendant said mom

463
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Speaker 1: too pregnant to fly.

464
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Speaker 2: So lady get that. Lady should get uf. We find

465
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Speaker 2: her and get her a ticket to the next US

466
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Speaker 2: and increasingly in the World Cup. You're not necessarily born

467
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Speaker 2: in the.

468
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Speaker 1: Country or of the country, so there's a lot of

469
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Speaker 1: gray area there. And my take is our explosion of

470
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Speaker 1: capital in the United States and in the Americas could

471
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Speaker 1: be a big advantage going forward. That's why momentum here

472
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Speaker 1: could really be a huge part.

473
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Speaker 2: It's also why and where we put the cart a

474
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Speaker 2: little before the horse here. And I know you want

475
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Speaker 2: to get to other stuff It's also why that game

476
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Speaker 2: against Bosnia is the biggest game in the history of

477
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Speaker 2: the US men's national team. And I know that sounds

478
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Speaker 2: crazy because it's around the thirty two game. We once

479
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: played a round of eight game against South Korea. I

480
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Speaker 2: get that that team, that team to get to the

481
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: round of eight had won one game in regulation. They

482
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Speaker 2: had to win, a draw, a loss, and then a

483
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Speaker 2: penalty kicks. Win this every as long as they beat Bosnia,

484
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: this will feel like such a massive domestic success for soccer.

485
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: There will be no shame if they lose in the

486
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Speaker 2: round of sixteen. I think they'd be able to beat

487
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Speaker 2: Belgium or Senegal or Korea, anybody they can play there,

488
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Speaker 2: but there would be no shame in it. But if

489
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Speaker 2: you do all of this and then it's and then

490
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, because we have, oddly, thanks to

491
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Speaker 2: the Turkey a game, lost thirteen straight games against European teams,

492
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Speaker 2: and there's a little fluke to that little this. But

493
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: then if all of a sudden, Bosnia clips US as

494
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Speaker 2: the sixty third ranked team in the world, it will

495
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Speaker 2: feel like it was for naught. But you win that game,

496
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Speaker 2: and they should win that game. They're huge favorites to

497
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Speaker 2: win that game. Then you start to you know, you

498
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 2: start to believe crazier things can happen again. Korea made

499
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 2: the semifinals when they hosted this tournament. There are six

500
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Speaker 2: of the host nation in history. Their single best World

501
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 2: Cup appearance or you know, best World Cup the furthest

502
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 2: they've ever gone in the World Cup in their nation's

503
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Speaker 2: history is when they hosted it.

504
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Speaker 1: This is an opportunity for the US to do so.

505
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: There was a massive move this week in the NBA.

506
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: It just happened to be in Miami, which is I'm

507
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Speaker 1: a believer in it. Although I think they're old. They

508
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Speaker 1: need a play creator, a shot creator. Wig is Now,

509
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Speaker 1: I get it. This is why you're so hot. You

510
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Speaker 1: you knew we had this event coming.

511
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Speaker 2: I didn't. You're like, oh, I'm gonna get Nick on

512
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Speaker 2: the record that he thinks this is You're making me

513
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Speaker 2: sound as calculated as that Nick thinks this is a

514
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Speaker 2: bad trade. Well, I, Colin Goward, I think it's a

515
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: good trade. And then we're gonna do a live show

516
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Speaker 2: in Miami where he has to defend it.

517
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Sorry, Well, first of all, I think Bam

518
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: and Janna start the second and third best defensive bigs

519
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: in the league after Wimby. So I think, and I

520
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: do think, in the Eastern Conference you can be completely flawed.

521
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: Detroit had no number two score Tobias Harris Durham. It's

522
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: like in the regular season in the East, you go

523
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Speaker 1: in a lot of games, there's a lot of bad

524
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Speaker 1: in the middle of bottom. There isn't in the West.

525
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Speaker 1: But what's interesting is the story this week where Mario Chalmers,

526
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Speaker 1: who was always really drove Lebron crazy when they were here. Sure,

527
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Speaker 1: I came and watched a couple of Heatles games and

528
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: Lebron and Mario Chalmers would argue incessantly during time out too.

529
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Speaker 2: It was such a story. When they won the title,

530
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Speaker 2: President Obama made fun of them about it. They're like,

531
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Speaker 2: you blame Mario for everything, Like, yeah, that was definitely

532
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Speaker 2: a thing, but what did he say?

533
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Speaker 1: So basically, Mario said, if you went to Lebron and said,

534
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Speaker 1: well we need bench in athleticism, we'll take Bronni and

535
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Speaker 1: Lebron would be the play initiator, not share the ball

536
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Speaker 1: and have to pretend he's not Austin Reeves, which is

537
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Speaker 1: kind of an insult but understandable. At his age, but

538
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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, Lebron has to pretend he's not better

539
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Speaker 1: than this. It's the third option. Miami goes, yeah, we

540
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Speaker 1: have size, we have no play initiators. You've never liked

541
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Speaker 1: to be around the basket defensively. You want to beat

542
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Speaker 1: the fast breakout at the free throw on extended. We'll

543
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Speaker 1: take Bronny, which by the way, he will.

544
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Speaker 2: Play in Miami.

545
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Speaker 1: And I'm lebron and I'm like, thirteen percent state tax

546
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Speaker 1: to zero my son plays could start with if Mitchell

547
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Speaker 1: has any injury. I mean, they really don't have a

548
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Speaker 1: point guard of note.

549
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Speaker 2: I mean, sure, no, I'm so.

550
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Speaker 1: My take is, and I don't think I think the

551
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Speaker 1: Lakers what they want to do. I think they're negotiating

552
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Speaker 1: for Walker Kessler. They're just kind of get the number

553
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Speaker 1: to be thirty three and not thirty eight because it

554
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Speaker 1: traps them going forward.

555
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Speaker 2: Although I like Walker Kessler.

556
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Speaker 1: But my take is then they go to Lebron and go, listen,

557
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Speaker 1: we want you back, and there's no room.

558
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Speaker 2: You got to take fifteen.

559
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Speaker 1: What they don't what they don't want to do, is

560
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Speaker 1: have Rich Paul dictate terms because they do need a

561
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Speaker 1: big there. I mean, if you look at now Oklahoma

562
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Speaker 1: City is going to do Hartenstein chet and and Ma Mara.

563
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, they dressed three. So it's like, sorry, guys, you

564
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Speaker 2: have to have a big and wants.

565
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Speaker 1: It's just the way the Western Conference works. So and

566
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Speaker 1: now you have Bam and Giannis over in the East.

567
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Speaker 1: So my take is Lebron to Miami. You say, well

568
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: left on bad terms, Dan Gilbert and Lebron. It was torched, correct,

569
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Speaker 1: it was inconceivable that they could come back.

570
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Speaker 2: So if you are asking me, would my feelings about

571
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Speaker 2: the Heat's ability to contend this year change if they

572
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: added Lebron James, Yes, they would. What do I want

573
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: that to happen? Absolutely? So here's I'm not sure how

574
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Speaker 2: much Lebron's family loved Miami. I don't know if that

575
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Speaker 2: is you know, it's not like returning to Cleveland, where

576
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Speaker 2: you're from. It also is if his daughter doesn't you know,

577
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Speaker 2: if it seems like it's just a one year thing

578
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Speaker 2: and his family's going to stay in LA that is

579
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Speaker 2: obviously way further than Golden State. So there are some

580
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: what I would call logistical complications to it. But from

581
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Speaker 2: a basketball standpoint, everything you said I agree with one

582
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Speaker 2: hundred percent because my concern about Miami as president constituted

583
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 2: is Giannis is such a great player, assuming that the

584
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: health issues he's had the last few years he can

585
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: get over. He is. He gives you a floor to

586
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: your offense, but the ceiling does not exist if you

587
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: do not have shooting and shot creation outside of him.

588
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: That's right, and right now they don't have it. They

589
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: don't have it, and they are you know, they're staring

590
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: at having to lose Norman Powell, their best three point shooter.

591
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: Wiggins to me is declining. Davion Mitchell is a great defender,

592
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 2: but is not a good offensive player. You know, Bam,

593
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Speaker 2: I know eighty three points not with sands into thirty two? Correct, No, no, no.

594
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: And so Miami is presently constituted will be one of

595
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Speaker 2: the best defenses in basketball. But I think Flaty not

596
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: have enough offense to win three, let alone four rounds

597
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: in the playoffs if they, yes, would Lebron solve all

598
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: of that? Yes, a hell of a lot of it,

599
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: because it's not only his offense, but what we saw

600
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Speaker 2: from him in the first round of the playoffs this year.

601
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Speaker 2: What as as soon as he goes back to hand

602
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: on the control's offense initiator mode, everyone's three point percentage

603
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: goes up a percent or two because he's such a

604
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: good passer, he understands getting other guys involved. So I

605
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: like as a basketball fit, I like all of that,

606
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: And there are not a lot of basketball fits I that.

607
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: Let me rephrase it as far as let's just say

608
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Speaker 2: Lebron is leaving the Lakers, which again I don't think

609
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: is the most likely outcome, even though the Lakers have

610
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Speaker 2: been wanting him to leave, even though he's been yes

611
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Speaker 2: their most reliable players since he's been there. The basketball

612
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: fits are mostly places I couldn't see him going like

613
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Speaker 2: he would fit. He would make Houston a snap contender

614
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: and fit perfect, no question. He's not going to Houston. No,

615
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: he would make Detroit a snap contender and fit with

616
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Speaker 2: them instantly. He's not going to Detroit. He Denver would

617
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: be It would be great, and his buddy kind of

618
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: owns the team. So maybe that's the possibility, but I

619
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Speaker 2: don't think it's likely. Golden State would be finding. Yeah,

620
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Speaker 2: but they can't win unless they also somehow find a

621
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Speaker 2: way to get Anthony Davis. They are just not gonna

622
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: be a good enough defensive team Cleveland. He's in the

623
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: exact same prop position he's in with the Lakers, which

624
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: is well, I am market. So you have Donovan Mitchell's

625
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: your number one, Fine, that's Luca. Then you have this

626
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: James Harden guy. Here's the thing about me and James Harden.

627
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm way better than him, just like he is with Austin.

628
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: But those guys are only can only play with the

629
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Speaker 2: ball in their hands. So I have to play this

630
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: Swiss army knife role, which is kind of a bummer.

631
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Speaker 2: And as a Lebron fan, I don't want to see

632
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Speaker 2: him finishing his career as a third option, like when

633
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: he's still this good. So for all those reasons, Miami,

634
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: you know, checks a lot of boxes, he has a

635
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: history there. They could absolutely win the title. They need him.

636
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: He would have the ball in his hands. So I

637
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: love the idea of it. I just don't think he's

638
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: coming back to the East Coast. I would love it

639
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: if he did. God, I would love it. If he did.

640
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Speaker 2: It would be sick. You would have to maybe get

641
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: what you know you have. You have properties somewhere in Florida.

642
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Speaker 2: I don't want to reveal it. You wouldn't maybe have

643
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Speaker 2: to add some down here.

644
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Speaker 1: No, it's I I I love Florida like Texas. I

645
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: don't get it's flat, there's no water Florida. I totally

646
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: get Texas drive by. And I've said this before. I'm

647
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: a huge college football fan. Anybody listens to the show

648
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: knows I love college football. And my take has always been,

649
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: there are three programs in college foot but it's mostly

650
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: a rural sport. It's you know, Tuscaloosa, it's ann Arbor.

651
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: There are three semi professional college programs, USC, Miami and Texas.

652
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: When they're good, the sport's great.

653
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

654
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: And so if USC and I think they'll be good

655
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: because they have pro guys on the offensive line first

656
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: time since Pete Carrolly days, so they'll they'll be able to,

657
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, play Big ten football. I am so happy

658
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: when I see a guy wearing to Miami Hurricane shirt

659
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: because anybody my age knows that college football used to

660
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: be there, used to be this. It was pretend we

661
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: do not pay the players.

662
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 2: This is above board.

663
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: And we all knew Southern teams paid them through the church.

664
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: We all understand, and Miami did on boats right like

665
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: we all understood it, and USC had bags of money too.

666
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: We all got it. College football now is like, not

667
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: only do we pay them, we pay sophomores in high school.

668
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: It's like college football grew up. It's like we all

669
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: knew it was happening. Now you can just when you

670
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: go out on your boosters yacht. Everybody knows. It's just

671
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: not for scrambled eggs, toast and signing day.

672
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: It is for money. And I think my take has

673
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: always been with college football, can we stop this veneer

674
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: that it's called.

675
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: It's like the Olympics, it's for pros Usain Bolts that

676
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: making ten million a year. The fact that Miami and

677
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: not nothing against Gainesville and Tallahassee Florida Gator fan right

678
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: now huge Miami needs to be good for the sport

679
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: to feel big.

680
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: Well it also listen, there is there are not there

681
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: is a you're talking about when you know, I'm I'm

682
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: a little bit younger than you. But they had so

683
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 2: they had the Jimmy Johnson.

684
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: Era, the U schnellen Berger ericson Jimmy. They all won

685
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: even butch Davis won.

686
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: Well that's that's and then they had you know, when

687
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: I was graduating high school, thereabouts like late nineties, early

688
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: two thousands, some of the most outrageous teams and depth

689
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: charts in the history of the sport. They won a title,

690
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: they also had another title stolen from them on the call.

691
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: But you like the two I don't know, I was

692
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: one or o two Miami Hurricanes where it's like they

693
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 2: have five pros at running back, they have three pros

694
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Speaker 2: at tight end.

695
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: There the those teams were probably second most talented to

696
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow teams. See it literally had nineteen Those

697
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: Miami teams were.

698
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: I think they were. They so that and so there

699
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: is an element of like when we talk about the

700
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: biggest brands in college football, I'm forty years old, Notre

701
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: Dame has never had a team that like the Reggie

702
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: Bush USC teams, right, those Miami teams I just mentioned.

703
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: You just mentioned an LSU team, the Vince Young Texas team, like,

704
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: there are a lot of programs that, in my again

705
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: my whole life, have had higher, more holy ceilings than

706
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: Notre Dame and Notre Dame like kind of I think

707
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: still kind of reputationally thinks it's in that class, but again,

708
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: for almost a half century, it hasn't been. It hasn't

709
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: even had those highest high moments. And I am curious

710
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: if the what the new age of college football, like

711
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: you're saying, where the it's not corruption anymore, it's just

712
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: legalized paying the players. If that does that even the

713
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: playing field, or does it temporarily in the playing field,

714
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 2: And then the biggest historical powers are just if everyone's

715
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: gonna pay be able to pay guys, then I think

716
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: will the kids be like, well, I'd rather play.

717
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: For a school that has a history like my Well,

718
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: here's what's happening, here's what's really happened with NIL. A

719
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: lot of the teams that were good are still good.

720
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: But it is called college football. So when Alabama was

721
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: dominating or Georgia's and a lot of the schools that

722
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: were dominating nothing against Ohio State, but you didn't think

723
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: of academics. You thought of football, not the college part

724
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: the NIL. What you want is rich boosters. Well, Vanderbilt,

725
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: the average the median income of a Vanderbilt grad is

726
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: double of Georgia.

727
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 2: So now suddenly all.

728
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Speaker 1: These guys at Vanderbilt make it. I mean, I live

729
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: in a neighborhood up in Chicago where Matt Ishbia Vanderbilt

730
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: Grad has a house that's bigger than the last Ski

731
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Speaker 1: Lodge I was at.

732
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: He's bought the White Sox. He's bought, so he's a

733
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt guy. There's Matt. There's two of them.

734
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, so I know I went to a

735
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: Cubs game in there day. He was sitting right behind us.

736
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: So nice, I mean, like down to earth, great guy.

737
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: But the point being is Indiana is an academic the

738
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Speaker 1: School of Business, Vanderbilt academic. Miami's got a great academic reputation.

739
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: So the college in college football now suddenly matters within IL.

740
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: It's a lot of the schools that have good football

741
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: programs but are known. Miami's known for its law school

742
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: and it's academics. But it is that the idea, It's

743
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: just a money grab. It's like, no, it's the schools.

744
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: And by the way, college kids are now staying in

745
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: college longer.

746
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: That's not bad. Well, that to me is the most

747
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: the most interesting. That last part is the most interesting.

748
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: We haven't yet seen it how it plays out impact

749
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: of in IL, which is, are we going to all

750
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: of a sudden, let's like, let's take running backs. Yeah,

751
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: as a for instance, where most years, this year may

752
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: be a bit of an outlier that you're the number

753
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: one running back in the draft might be projected to

754
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: go mid second round. That's right. And where a college

755
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: a guy who's like the number three running back in

756
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: the class and because of that is projected to be

757
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: a third round pick stays in school not to improve

758
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: his draft position, but because he can make more money,

759
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: no question, being a star college running back yep than

760
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: a rookie pays scaled third round pick NFL running back.

761
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: That's a great point because running back is the last

762
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: position in pro football offensively you can hit.

763
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: Him anywhere anytime when they come through the line, knees.

764
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: Shoulder, helmet. Can't hit receivers, tight ends like that. So

765
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: it is the one it's the most punitive position to play.

766
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: So it kind of stinks to be a running back yep.

767
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: And to your point, guys are going to stay in

768
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: college and say, I mean I'm gonna make four to

769
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: be the number one running back at Ohio State or

770
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand to go to the Jaguars, correct, And

771
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: so I do. So it's a way of paying the

772
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: running back, yes, but it's gonna.

773
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: Be not on the on the NFL's time. I think

774
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that people are So that's

775
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: one thing about and how that impacts Oh well, that

776
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: actually mean because one of the reasons running backs don't

777
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 2: get paid is because it's like, oh wow, they're just

778
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: so easy to come by, like you just draft from

779
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: the fifth round. Well, if some of that supply is

780
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: now staying in college to the NFL guys, But then

781
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, do the NFL running backs get

782
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: a boost and pay? And then does are we seeing

783
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: or are we starting to get down a road where

784
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,959
Speaker 2: when if every draft seven of the twenty five best

785
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: players or wide receivers, because it seems like three the

786
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: last four drafts, like ye I got eight wide receivers

787
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: in round one, I got seven, then are we coming

788
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: to a place where what happened to running backs sou

789
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: wise happens to receivers, which is teams are like, yeah,

790
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: I unless you are Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson JSN. If

791
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: you are, it's a bubble the wide receiver. If you're

792
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman, uh caliber guy, Yeah, I'm not paying you

793
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: eighteen million dollars. You can just draft away. I mean

794
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: there's there's ten new ones coming in the league every year.

795
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's football is the coaching sport, and therefore it's

796
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: very cyclical on who matters. Safeties now are hugely important.

797
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: Tight Ends didn't use to matter. Tight Ends now are

798
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: gigantica Sean McVay, I mean, tight ends because of Kittle

799
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: and Gronk emerged as a more important position.

800
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: I can remember Travis Kelcey and there Travis Kelcey.

801
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: Yes, when Andy Reid and Philadelphia started throwing on third

802
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: and two, it was like the league's changed.

803
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he he he, and I talked about that

804
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: years ago.

805
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: He started listening to the show and I'm like, there's

806
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: a guy in Philadelphia, which is kind of a blue collar,

807
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: tough town, they.

808
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: Throw on third and two. The league's changing.

809
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: And then now with McVeigh going to personnel where I mean,

810
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: they have like five tight ends and you notice this

811
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: year how many tight ends went and it was a

812
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: mediocre tight end class. So football tends to be like

813
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: anything else, like housing in the market. It's very very

814
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: cyclical because coaching matters so much. My favorite part about

815
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: sports is not the tradition. It's not the rear view mirror.

816
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: It's the windshield. These leagues constantly change, Like Minnesota fascinating.

817
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: Minnesota's like, we're gonna get rid of nas Reed and

818
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: Julius Randall because I think they look at Oklahoma City

819
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: and Wemby and.

820
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: They're like, the only way we can beat them now

821
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: is shooters and athletes.

822
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: So they get the kid from Chicago at the trade deadline,

823
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: they draft the kid Isaiah from Duke the top of

824
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: the second round. They go get LaMelo ballt So you

825
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: can tell what Minnesota's doing. They figured it out the

826
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: trade deadline. We can't Wemby's eating playing go bear off

827
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: the court. We're gonna go speed. That's the only way

828
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: to take bigs out. So that's constant, the constant change

829
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: culturally in football and basketball bas now, it's just that's

830
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: what I love about sports. Constant, Like we're seeing it

831
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: in soccer, We're seeing it in everything. So I can

832
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: we stay with the LaMelo trade for a second.

833
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? So because Tim Connolly, right, Tim Connolly built the

834
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 2: Nuggets smart, he then got hired to build the Timberwolves. Yeah,

835
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: and he built a team specifically to beat the Nuggets, right,

836
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: and he did it. They beat them they when the

837
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 2: Nuggets were defending champs, the Timberls beat them in seven.

838
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: The Timberwolves this year played him again in the first round.

839
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: They were all banged up. They beat him anyway, But

840
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: unfortunately for him, I think he realized, Shit, the team

841
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: I built my team to beat is no longer the

842
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: team to beat like and so now San Antonio is

843
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: he thinks potentially the team to beat. So we got

844
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: to build a team that can counteract Wimby. Speed it up.

845
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: With that said, unless that then the next phase of

846
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: his plan is and so now when the Spurs come

847
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: to Minnesota on these icy roads, maybe Lamello can get

848
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: in a bender bender with Wimby and not Gonna. I

849
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: don't I do not I am. I understand pivoting. I

850
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: understand them saying we've got to remake this, that Julius

851
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: Randall's not a playoff performer that you know, as beloved

852
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: as Nasrid is, we feel like we can replace him.

853
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: I get all of that. I do not understand for

854
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: the life of me, why if you're trying to play

855
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: championship level basketball you would say, LaMelo Ball, we want

856
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: you to be a part of that. I don't I don't.

857
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: I do not they. I do not think there is

858
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: a level of maturity and being an adult that is

859
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: requisite if you are going to be a best or

860
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 2: second best player, which he needs to be the second

861
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: best guy on a championship team. And I have no

862
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: reason to believe that he can do that. And here's

863
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: the other thing I will say. It would be very

864
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: concerning for me if a team drafts a guy number two,

865
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 2: sees him every day. He is coming off his healthiest year,

866
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 2: your team's best year, his best year. Yeah, and that's

867
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: when they're like, we better get out of this now. Well,

868
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: it feels a little like it like front running a

869
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: stock you know is gonna crack. So not every stock

870
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 2: is a core holding.

871
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have game Stop and you wait for game

872
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: Stop to go up and you're like, I'm selling that shit,

873
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: making money and getting out. It's not a core holding.

874
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: It's not Intel, Microsoft, whatever, Amazon. So the question is, eh,

875
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: he just made LaMelo a core holding. Charlotte looked at him,

876
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: like game stock. Charlotte's like this get A year ago,

877
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: he had no market. Now he's got a hot one.

878
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: Let's get so I get Charlotte. The reason I think

879
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: it works kind of in Minnesota. I think Finch is

880
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: a top five coach. I think they have a real

881
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: culture and is still the star.

882
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: And there's enough.

883
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: Part of me thinks Conley's like, Okay, you got a

884
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: Rods and Owner, it's gonna be Really they were good

885
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: last year, but they underachieved. They weren't terribly entertaining despite

886
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: having Aunt. And my take is they're a bad watch

887
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: with a great player. So this makes them wildly interesting.

888
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: Oh, it does make them interesting, and it will the

889
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: highlights will be crazy, and there will be moments where

890
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: the offense looks unbelievable.

891
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: And also Isaiah Evans and the Chicago kid can both

892
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: catch and shoot athletes. The bottom line is LaMelo is

893
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: they think he's got the hands, great handles, He'll get

894
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: the ball to shooters.

895
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they think he's going to be an offensive engine

896
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: for him. And if you were going to build a

897
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: team that could deal with LaMelo's just doesn't give a

898
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: damn defense. Ants who's a great defender. Jaden McDaniels is

899
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: an unbelievable If Rudy Goberts like they have the Tarren

900
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: Shannon was out there, they have the right personnel to

901
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: deal with and LaMelo's at least long his defensive liabilities.

902
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: But my my concerns would be these, While we've never

903
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 2: seen LaMelo in the playoffs, we have seen him in

904
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: the play in three times. Yeah, and in the history

905
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: of the play in three of the four biggest blowouts,

906
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: LaMelo Ball was the center of He has played awfully

907
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: in all those games. So it's like, ah, is he

908
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: a playoff guy? I don't know. He's six years and

909
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: hasn't been in the playoffs, but does playoff adjacent stuff

910
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: hasn't been good. But the other concern Hive is this,

911
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: are we sure LaMelo Ball doesn't think he's still the

912
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: best player on the team he's on. He's the same

913
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: draft class as Ant Well that one Rookie of the

914
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: Year when Ant was there. He's been the best player

915
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: on every team. The only time he's ever had a

916
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: teammate that he thought was better than him was his

917
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: big brother. Does he and like, if he totally accepts, yeah,

918
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: I'm the number two, this is Anthony Edwards team, then maybe,

919
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's his personality.

920
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: Well, is he humbled because Charlotte moved on? I mean,

921
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: I guess I think all the concerns are legitimate. I

922
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: heard Ryan Rossello is like, I hate the move. I

923
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: get that between the coach, between and between the shooters.

924
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: I thought they were a bad watch clunky off. Their

925
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: pace in the playoffs was pretty good. I think that

926
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: to combat the size of Wemby and the size of

927
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: OKC and we're gonna be fast and athletic can shoot,

928
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: and we're gonna shoot our way to win because we can't.

929
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Julius Ryannold takes the ball to and he

930
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: kills half court SATs. He's a ball stopper. All right,

931
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: let's let's pivot back to why we're here. Hard Rock

932
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: Bet thanks for all the support and the World Cup

933
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: once again established.

934
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: You will be at the game tonight. You said you

935
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: have not bet it yet. I have not, No, So

936
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 2: here's the deal. I'll just be honest with the folks

937
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: here on how this is gone. So a I have

938
00:49:55,120 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 2: tried this World Cup to stay like, be very disciplined

939
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: and sharp with what I'm doing. And I see and

940
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm doing this in the midst of everyone else in

941
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: the world. All the marks, all the marks are like, hey,

942
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: you know what my plan is? All the best players

943
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 2: are gonna score multiple goals, and I'm a parlay that

944
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: ship together. And I'm like, you rubes that'll never hit

945
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 2: and then hit every time every time, watching these children

946
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: make these bets and they're like, oh, it's great, and

947
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 2: then I and I'm like, well, you know what I'm

948
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 2: I'm on a I'm on England to be to just

949
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: to win the game against Ghana, zero zero draw? How

950
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: about how about the open the World Cup Spain. You're

951
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 2: gonna beat Cape Verde, right, no, no, zero zero draw?

952
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: So I so you know, I'm digging myself out. You

953
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: tried to be this. I try to be a sophistic

954
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: exactly right. I'm like, oh, yeah, it's listen, minus four

955
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 2: hundred sounds bad, but i mean, do you do smoke?

956
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: So you've got some that's I'm a retired smoker. But yes,

957
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 2: all that's true. So with that said, like I really

958
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: like I so Algeria Austria's today. Both teams advance with

959
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: a draw. Both teams go home if they lose, which

960
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: says to me, man, this is gonna be a game

961
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: of keep away. They're both fine with a zero zero draw.

962
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there. Croatia is playing Ghana today, Ghana

963
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: has already advanced. Croatia advances with a draw or a

964
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: wind goes home with a loss, and there is not

965
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: in Ghana might actually prefer the path they get if

966
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 2: they lose and they're the third place team and Isys

967
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: the second place team. So I like Croatia. I already

968
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: explained why I like d r Kango. Portugal. Colombia is

969
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: tricky to me because I can't figure out with respect

970
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 2: to the Colombian fans here, and I think Colombia is

971
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: a dangerous team and they've been awesome in this tournament. Awesome. Portugal,

972
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: in theory, is supposed to be the better side. They

973
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: are the sixth ranked team in the world. They are

974
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,479
Speaker 2: the favorites for a reason. But we also have seen

975
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: them play twice in this tournament, once against the legitimate opponent,

976
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: and it looked like that the team hated their all

977
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 2: time legend and the coach was scared of him. That

978
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: wasn't good. And then one game against was it Uzbekistan? Yeah,

979
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: it was against Uzbekistan. They put up five goals and

980
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: people like, okay, everything's fine. Does Portugal truly have a

981
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: Christiano Ronaldo problem in that he is the not only

982
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: the aging all time legend, but the aging all time

983
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 2: legend who there is some resentment amongst the teammates because

984
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: he's not producing the way he wants to was and

985
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: for him and all of a sudden new insecurity of well,

986
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: I can't like it's one thing for Imbape and Holland

987
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: and Vinnie Junior to be doing this, but Messi, who

988
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 2: is my a one rival and aid contemporary, is crushing

989
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 2: so I think that has put extra pressure on him.

990
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: So I say all that to say this, I think

991
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: the best chance Columbia has to win today is Christiano

992
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: Ronaldo making the game about himself. Yeah, because I think

993
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: Portugal's overall midfield talent and overall talent should be enough

994
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 2: to win a game they need to get or they

995
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: want to get, but not if Ronaldo does what he

996
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: did in the first game. So that's my stance on it.

997
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: I still haven't bet it yet. I also kind of

998
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: feel like I want to bet it when I'm in

999
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: the stadium, yes, and have a better sense of who

1000
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: I'm sitting with is rooting for, because I don't want

1001
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: to be rooting if I'm really in my head it's

1002
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: a coin flip. I kind of want to just go with,

1003
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: you know, the vibe of the section I'm in that

1004
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: feels like the right thing. Right. It's like, if I'm

1005
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: sitting with these people, I'm gonna bet Columbia. I'll tell

1006
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: you that much right now.

1007
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: You know What's one of the things I've really Bill

1008
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: Maher talked about this last night. It's so great to

1009
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: see all these people come into America and they love

1010
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: ranch dressing. They Nacho's ranch dressing.

1011
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: But I don't know if nachos are Americans, and I

1012
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: don't know that we get those, but yes, there are

1013
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: there is an element there. I have really enjoy things. Yes,

1014
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: I have enjoyed that. There has been a great and

1015
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: that's what the World Cup is, man. There has been

1016
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: a great blending and melding of you know, obviously people

1017
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 2: from all over the world, but people experiencing uniquely American

1018
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: things that we maybe take for granted a bit. Well,

1019
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 2: I imagine a ton of the people are you know

1020
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: at these games, you know, wearing the Columbia jursey or whatever.

1021
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: Are Americans who live here that are just Colombian, either

1022
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: heritage or just Columbian fans. But there's clearly a ton.

1023
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: I mean, the Kansas City got taken over my hometown

1024
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: by the Dutch this week, like there's not a well,

1025
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: we're not a huge Dutch stronghold in Kansas City outside

1026
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: of the world. I just got back.

1027
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: I went with my son. He had to do some

1028
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: stuff overseas. So I went to Madrid for four days.

1029
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: And one of the things when I go. The minute

1030
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: I get on a plane and I'm flying overseas, I

1031
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: immediately lock into Okay, I just want to be euro

1032
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: for six days. I'm just gonna everything shy of smoking

1033
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: and sleeping in my dress socks.

1034
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm going to be totally European. I'm gonna drink all day,

1035
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: three hour lunches, drink all day, twelve miles, use public transportation.

1036
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: And so I went to Madrid and I'm like, God,

1037
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: this is a great life. I mean, they open up

1038
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: the wine shops early, and I think, what is happening

1039
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: is there are some I ran into a German lady

1040
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: the other day at my gym in a very strong

1041
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: German accent, and I said, you live here in Chicago.

1042
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: She says yes. I said, do you miss Germany? She

1043
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: goes yes.

1044
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: I said, what do you prefer, and she goes, I

1045
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: prefer Chicago, because she says, sometimes Europe can be inflexible and.

1046
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: A lot of regulations.

1047
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: She goes, people really celebrate winning here and they're not shy,

1048
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: and they're kind of obnoxious, and she says that's okay.

1049
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: She says, sometimes American the media here makes Americans feel

1050
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: bad for going. We're good and we have ice in

1051
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: our cocktails and air conditioning. Well that you know again,

1052
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: very funny. So I, you know, I.

1053
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: Every time I go, my wife and I every August,

1054
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: you know, take we usually go with her grandparents actually,

1055
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: who God bless them, are still with us ninety six

1056
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 2: and ninety three. Where do you take your beautiful wife?

1057
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: Well that's so every year we take her, I take

1058
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: her and grandparents somewhere in Europe for eight days. And

1059
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: so like last year we did Monico to roll Dice

1060
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 2: at Casino Monte Carlo and didn't do santro Pe, but

1061
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 2: get niece Monico into Milan. And this year we are

1062
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: not that her grandparents aren't coming. And this year I

1063
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: finally had the courage to ring up the old bosses

1064
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: at FS want to be like, hey, I'm approaching ten

1065
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: years at the network. That's right. I'm not saying I

1066
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 2: need the Colin Cowhard vacation plan. However, if I could

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00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: get two weeks in August instead of one after we're

1068
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: grinding in the World Cup, like I'm usually on vacation

1069
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: right now post finals, not and so I think that's so.

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00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 2: I think that's happening. So it's funny you said Madrid,

1071
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: because I think we're gonna start in Madrid and we

1072
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: always rent a car and just kind of drive through.

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00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: Public transportation in Madrid is amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit like La cleaner version and they

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00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: and you walk everywhere. So here's public transportations unbelievable.

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00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I don't mind the public transportation

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00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: at all within the cities, but the people will be like, oh,

1078
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: take you know, get a europass and you know you

1079
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: o city city like that. Those people have not traveled

1080
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: with my lovely wife sitting right there, who we will

1081
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: take on this trip with us four suitcases, one of

1082
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: them will be empty, and they will go and then

1083
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: and then we will come back with five or six suitcases,

1084
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 2: two of which we purchased there from all the clothes.

1085
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: So because of that, like going like getting on a

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00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: train with a There is some you know, a little

1087
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: ugly American stereotype of like, yeah, it's just two of us,

1088
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: we have you know, six stuffel bags in a suitcase

1089
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: rather just rent a car and have them in the drunk.

1090
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: But this World Cup the funny story and maybe this

1091
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 2: is where as we're I know, we're running short on time.

1092
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: Four years ago, she and I went to Brazil. And

1093
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: the reason we went to Brazil was because I did

1094
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: a whole thing on the podcast about how Brazil was

1095
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: going to win the World Cup. I was betting on

1096
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: Brazil to win the World Cup and I was going

1097
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: to pay for a trip to Brazil with my World

1098
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: Cup winnings. It's the World Cup four years ago. For

1099
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: those of you that aren't soccer officionados, Brazil not only

1100
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: did not win the World Cup, they did not come

1101
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: particularly close to winning the World Cup. Argentina there arch

1102
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 2: Nemesis won it instead. So I was like, dam lost

1103
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: all that money. I can't go to Brazil anymore. My wife,

1104
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: who I guess wasn't that locked into the tournament, was like,

1105
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: so we're still going to Brazil, right, So that's why

1106
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 2: we went this year I have kind of done the

1107
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 2: same thing, which is cast my whole lot with Brazil.

1108
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: I haven't asked you this yet because I think Brazil

1109
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 2: is gonna win it. I think they've been awesome. I

1110
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: think they're only going to get better, and I think

1111
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: Carlo Ancelotti is the best manager in the tournament. Do

1112
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: you you're pulling for the US, But is your pick France?

1113
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: It sounded like France is the best team. Netherlands is

1114
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: the most underrated team. I don't think though Margentina will

1115
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: win again. I just think it's too hard. Despite Messi's brilliance.

1116
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: I think France looks I always say this, turn down

1117
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: the sound sometimes when I watch football if I think it,

1118
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: team's really good. Houston Texans defense, so you don't have

1119
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: any audio bias, confirmation bias. You watch Texans play and

1120
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: you're like, okay, it just faster than everybody. They get

1121
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: a pass rush, great corners.

1122
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: They don't look like anybody see I look like it

1123
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: on both sides, Houston, just on defense. If you turn

1124
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: the sound down, which I did with France, and there's

1125
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: no you get no audio to you can to filter

1126
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: through it.

1127
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: They look different. They get there.

1128
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: They have six I don't think Polisic, Balligan or Weston

1129
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: McKinney would start.

1130
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question they would not start. They wouldn't

1131
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: none of though. You're absolutely right, we don't know. No,

1132
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: we have no one on our team that would start

1133
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: for France and their goalies better. Yeah. I think so.

1134
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: France is the most talented team and they're healthy, like

1135
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 2: Brazil's got the injuries. Spain they're worried about Jumal's hamstring.

1136
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: I think we are. I think that the World Cup

1137
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: of Stars is going to continue, and I think the

1138
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: way the bracket fell is just perfect. I think we

1139
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: are going to get and it's very chalky, but I

1140
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: think we are going to get a semifinal on the

1141
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: left hand side of the bracket of France playing Spain,

1142
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: and a semi final on the right hand side of

1143
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 2: the bracket of Brazil playing Argentina, the two European powers,

1144
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: the two South American powers, and then the winners play

1145
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: each other, obviously in New York on what is it,

1146
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 2: the July eighteenth, nineteenth, whatever it is. But I think

1147
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: I think there is a chance that this World Cup

1148
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 2: is remembered for the greatest Golden Boot race at or

1149
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: where it's just legends score, you know, scoring nine ten

1150
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 2: eleven goals over the course of the tournament, and almost

1151
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: assuredly the final World Cup for two of the five

1152
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: greatest players ever in Messi and Ronaldo, and a World

1153
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: Cup of some you can no longer deny.

1154
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: America deeply cares one hundred percent, one hundred percent, And

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Speaker 1: I think, and I do think you're right that I

1156
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: think that you know, we don't we don't typically get

1157
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: too political, but I would say, I, you know, over

1158
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: the last you know few presidential elections maybe are standing

1159
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: in the world's community has taken a bit of a hit.

1160
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 2: I think a lot of the world community coming to

1161
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: the US and being like, hey, kind of cool not

1162
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: doing a tour that reflecting pool. But aside from that,

1163
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: it ain't so bad over here. Hard Rock Bet, you're awesome.

1164
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: Thanks for showing up.

1165
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: I I mean, this guy's wearing dark pants and a

1166
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: brown shirt in Florida heat in June.

1167
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: That's the kind of commitment you're making of the World Cup.

1168
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: Thanks everybody that stopped by. This will be on the

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Speaker 2: Hard Rock Bet, It'll be on the volume, It'll be

1170
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Speaker 2: on all our feeds. What's right? The herd hard rock

1171
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Speaker 2: bet everywhere you can find it. It was TikTok. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure to see you guys. WHOA the Long