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Speaker 1: and Out podcast. Back at it again. I hope everyone's

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Speaker 1: having a good Tuesday. Hell, maybe you're listening to this

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Speaker 1: I just watched the Monday night football game kinda was

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Speaker 1: We'll we'll dive deep into some quarterback situations all around

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Speaker 1: Win it really was, and then of course Middlecoff mailbag

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Speaker 1: they're going in opposite directions very very quickly. Also leave

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Speaker 1: of you have. I greatly appreciate it. It It helps us

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Speaker 1: But Jamis is just a reckless player. He's not an

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Speaker 1: three coordinators plus a head coach, plus a rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: to New York the ultimate pressure cooker. And as someone

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Speaker 1: who comes from a smaller town in California, when I

427
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Speaker 1: went to Philly and I worked, you know, in the

428
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Speaker 1: NFC East and obviously playing the Giants, but just feeling

429
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Speaker 1: the markets of Philly, d C, New York, it's intense.

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Speaker 1: It is something that we cannot relate to out on

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Speaker 1: the West coast. That would be California, that would be Colorado,

432
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Speaker 1: that would be Utah, that would be Nevada, Arizona. We

433
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Speaker 1: do not have similar mindsets out here, just in terms

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Speaker 1: of our personalities. It is completely foreign to us. And

435
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: yesterday he gets hurt. Gets hurt. Zach Wilson, uh sprains

436
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 1: or strains as pcl not a doctor, not even quite

437
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: sure what that means, but he's clearly gonna miss. A

438
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: schefter said a couple of games two to four weeks listen,

439
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: their teams bad. They had a bunch of injuries. I

440
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: don't blame the coaches or the GM for Zack Wilson

441
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: getting hurt. Young players get injured. That happens. There's nothing

442
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: you can do. It's football, guy. People overreact sometimes injuries,

443
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: though it does feel like they've never had happened at

444
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: a like a higher clip. But it's part of the sport.

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00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 1: You can get her training in the offseason. You get

446
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: hurt lifting weights, you get hurting training camp, you get

447
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: hurting practice, you can get hurting games. It's a violent game.

448
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: That's why big part why I love it. I like

449
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: the violence. I'll never apologize for it. A lot of

450
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: us do. It's why ratings are up. Let's face it,

451
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: even though the game is clearly less violent than it

452
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Speaker 1: was when you know most of us were kids, but

453
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: still it is. It is the most violent of all

454
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Speaker 1: the team sports. Uh, and it's just there's collisions on

455
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: every play. It's part of the deal. But I think

456
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Speaker 1: it was malpractice to not have a veteran quarterback in

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Speaker 1: that group. Mike White is the backup. I had to

458
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Speaker 1: google who he was now once I realized he was

459
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Speaker 1: on the Cowboys draft in the fifth round. But he's

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Speaker 1: drafted in two thousand and eight. Team, how could you

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Speaker 1: not have a guy on Andy Dalton, a Nick Foles,

462
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Speaker 1: a player a Joe Flacco, anybody, a guy who had

463
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Speaker 1: been in the league for a decade plus that Zack

464
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: Wilson could just going to dinner with, could just go

465
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Speaker 1: over to his house with that guy and his wife,

466
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Speaker 1: that just could spend time with during the week and

467
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: talk about quarterback things because his coordinator, a younger guy

468
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: in his thirties, never coordinated. Now, they did have Greg Knapp,

469
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: who had been a long time quarterback coach and offensive

470
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Speaker 1: coordinator in the NFL, and he had a tragic incident

471
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Speaker 1: that actually happened about fifteen minutes from where I'm sitting

472
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: right now in Danville, California. I think I think it

473
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: happened in the summer. He got hit by a car

474
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Speaker 1: and died. I mean, it's fucking terrible. And so they did,

475
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Speaker 1: you know, have a elder statesman on the coaching staff,

476
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: but to not have a player of a veteran presence

477
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: for this guy to lean on to me as borderline malpractice.

478
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Speaker 1: I think it's insane. I think it is the number

479
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Speaker 1: one thing that you could ding Robert Sale and Joe

480
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: Douglas four because their team was not going to be

481
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: any good, they didn't have that much talent. Then their

482
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Speaker 1: team has been injured. There you can't do anything about that.

483
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: And but Zach Wilson going through ups and downs, having

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Speaker 1: moments where he's throwing X and struggling to not have

485
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Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback that you could just go, Hey man,

486
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: come over to my house. Let's let's have a cocktail.

487
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: And this bullshit on Sunday night after the game. Hey man,

488
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: it's Tuesday afternoon. We were one and six. Just just

489
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: come over and kick it with me and my wife

490
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: and my my young children. Just come just come hang.

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Speaker 1: I'll just I'll just talk to you about football, about life,

492
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: about just the big picture of this. Because I was listening.

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Speaker 1: Uh Coward had Bruce arians on his podcast, and Bruce

494
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: brought up a really good point because Colin asked him

495
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: about Brady and what it's like to coach, you know,

496
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: have Tom Brady as a leader on his team, and

497
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Speaker 1: I think any coach would tell you this from high

498
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Speaker 1: school up to up to the highest level in the

499
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: pros on a team like Tampa Bay that when you

500
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Speaker 1: have a great leader as a player who's also your

501
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: best player, you can say whatever you want as a coach,

502
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Speaker 1: but eventually you're gonna need players to talk to other players.

503
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: And Bruce was like, you know, I tell a wide receiver,

504
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: you know, a coaching point, and he won't listen to me.

505
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: But then Tom says it, and the guy does it

506
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 1: forever because it resonates with him and it happens all

507
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: around the league. It's why I gotta take the l

508
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: on the signing with J. J. Watt with the the

509
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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Having a guy like that, with his credibility

510
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 1: and his resume, when he can look at a player

511
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: and say something, those guys are gonna listen potentially more

512
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: than even a position coach, a coordinator or the head coach.

513
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: It matters. And to not have that guy on the

514
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Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, to me, as borderline is sanity.

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00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: I think it's a poor job. Now. I'm not saying

516
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: that would have led to a different record, but when

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Speaker 1: you look at the maturation of a young quarterback. You

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Speaker 1: want to put that guy in a position where he

519
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: has people to lean on, players to lean on, and

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00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't think the Jets did a very good job

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00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: of that. And they're now in a position where the

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Speaker 1: guy's hurt and they have a quarterback starting for him

523
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: that most of us could not point out of a lineup.

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Speaker 1: A game yesterday that really stood out. I guess it

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00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: was if you're listening us on Tuesday, it would have

526
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Speaker 1: been on Sunday. The Raiders beat the living you know

527
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Speaker 1: what out of the Eagles. They absolutely destroyed them. It

528
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: was an old school ass kicking. If you didn't know

529
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Speaker 1: anything about the hierarchy of football, you know how the

530
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: Raiders haven't been a playoff team, you know, basically one

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00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: time in the last twenty years. You're just watching that,

532
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: you'd be like, this is one of the better teams

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Speaker 1: in the league. And right now they are technically they're

534
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: the two seed. They are in first place. Uh, even

535
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: though the Charges beat them, Charges want to buy, but

536
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: right now they would be the two seeds. It's a

537
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: long way to go, so it's pointless even say that.

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00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: But they're they're a playoff level team. And clearly the

539
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: elephant in the room with that franchise is Jon Gruden

540
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: and the situation that took place a couple of years

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Speaker 1: removing him and listen. I grew up. My dad was

542
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: an old school he was older. I mean he was

543
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: born in the forties, old school, conservative guy, tight, didn't drink.

544
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Just intense. We had high standards in my family in

545
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: terms about school work, about out athletics, just about when

546
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: what he when he said something, you had to fall through.

547
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: It was just intense, especially when I was young. I

548
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: was his first kid. Uh, it was just an intense environment. Now,

549
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: as I probably got in high school and definitely in

550
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: college and my twenties, mellowed down like most people, you know,

551
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: I think parents just do. It was much easier on

552
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: my little brother, But for me, it was just tense.

553
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: There was a tense environment in my home. Uh, and

554
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: it just it can take a lot out of you.

555
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: You know, you're always kind of on eggshells, right of

556
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: just like, am I living up to it? Am I

557
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: doing a good job? Is he gonna be piste off?

558
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: It was just can everyone just take a deep breath?

559
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: And finally, as I got older, everyone started taking a

560
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: deep breath and we could just relax and just we

561
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: became really close and really good friends, and it becomes

562
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 1: a different environment. Anyone listening to this, who's you know,

563
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: as you're graduating college or in your late twenties, your

564
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: relationship changes with your parents. It's cool. I mean, it's

565
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: it's one of the more powerful things in your life.

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00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: And listen, I've been having worked in college football and

567
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: the pros, it can be a really really difficult relationship

568
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: with certain coaches, with certain players. Right, they're just they're

569
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: they're just they're scared as the wrong word. But you

570
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: never feel comfortable. And there was a level with John Gruden, like,

571
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: let's face it, I had said for years he was

572
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: much more famous than he was a good coach. Because

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00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: when you said John Gruten, he was as famous as

574
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, as Sean Payton, as Bill Belichick, as Pete Carroll,

575
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: as Saban I mean, he was as famous as any

576
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL, but or college. But unlike all

577
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: those guys I just listed, they win a lot recently,

578
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: John hasn't won since like the mid two thousand's. He's

579
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: become he became like a caricature, and clearly the players.

580
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: It was just a weird environment, and you removed him

581
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: from that environment. The last two weeks, the Raiders have

582
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: looked free. They have just looked like there's a burden

583
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: lifted up their shoulders. We no longer have to prove

584
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: every single minute of every single day, Monday through Sunday

585
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 1: to John Grudens standards, which you could argue are like

586
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: not even realistic, right, It's like we don't even know

587
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: what he really expects because it's clearly not really working.

588
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: But removing him Like you watched that Eagles game, I

589
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: watched Derek Carr, and I just see a guy who's free,

590
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: who's relaxed, who was clearly comfortable in the offense. But

591
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: it's spent the last three and a half years, every

592
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: single snap, every single day, trying to prove to John

593
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: Gruden he was worthy to be his quarterback, Like John

594
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: Gruden was Bill Walsh or something when you really look like,

595
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: how many good quarterbacks is John Gruden actually coached rich

596
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: gannon beside that, like, who was he some quarterback gurgle on?

597
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: But he had that mantra he he That was kind

598
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: of the way people described him. That was the way

599
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: we thought about him. John Gruden quarterbacks. Gruden grinders, and

600
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: there's like an intensity lifted. And having been around Derek

601
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: since high school and seen him at Fresno State and

602
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: followed his Frisden State career once I went to the Eagles.

603
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: Derek had a lot of success at Fresno State. He

604
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: is not like some angry player. Derek smiles. Derek enjoys football.

605
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: Gruden is like this ultimate grinder that just is always

606
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: mad and always angry and always screaming f bombs at players.

607
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: Saw a quote after the Denver game, Josh Jacobs was like, Yeah,

608
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: our sideline was just a lot more relaxed. We didn't

609
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: have everyone yelling at each other. He's this Josh Jacob

610
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: played for Nick Saban in Alabama. He was like, yeah,

611
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: I was just much easier to kind of function on

612
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: the sideline, basically saying like, thank God this guy's gone.

613
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: And Derek Carr just had a game. Uh. In the

614
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Speaker 1: modern era of the NFL, it is the second most

615
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: accurate completion percentage game, behind Drew Brees. A couple of

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00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: years ago, when I think went twenty nine of thirty

617
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: for the Saints, Derek went uh uh thirty. I think

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00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: of thirty three. He was. If you're in the tiles

619
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: as in terms of completion percentage even in two thousand

620
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: twenty one, and you have over thirty attempts, that's incredible.

621
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Speaker 1: Like Derek is playing, and he was playing really well.

622
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: But now I watch a guy that just he can

623
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: just relax. He can just have the burden of John

624
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: Gruden staring at him, about to scream at him. He

625
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry about that anymore because Derek was

626
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 1: already He's been a team captain before John grud never

627
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: showed up. Derek had played well before John Gruden ever

628
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: became the head coach of the Raiders, and then there

629
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Speaker 1: was this pressure of the moment John got there, of

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00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: like can Derek prove himself. John's always, you know, chasing

631
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: around all these quarterbacks. John's gonna try to replace there.

632
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: He no longer has to worry about that he's the

633
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: best player. I guess Waller is technically the best player

634
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: on the team. But when you're the quarterback, you're the

635
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: most important player on the team. And he can just

636
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: play football now. And as just a fan of football

637
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Speaker 1: and as a fan of Derek, it was refreshing to

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Speaker 1: watch these a couple of weeks because the Raiders have

639
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Speaker 1: had a lot of talent. But for whatever reason, I

640
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Speaker 1: saw someone tweeted this the other day, like John Gruden's

641
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Speaker 1: the only coach in the modern playoff era to go

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Speaker 1: six and three multiple times and miss the playoffs every

643
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Speaker 1: single time. Like there was an intensity to John Gruden

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Speaker 1: that just war out players. And as someone, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't relate ever playing for John Gruden, but I've

646
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Speaker 1: been around intense people. If you're not super wired like that,

647
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Speaker 1: not everyone is motivated by that. If anything, it can

648
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Speaker 1: diminish whatever your talent and abilities are. Now, if you're

649
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Speaker 1: motivated like that, like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, and

650
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Speaker 1: you're just kind of like this chip on your shoulder

651
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Speaker 1: kind of you got this asshole mentality. I'm not saying

652
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Speaker 1: that in a negative way. That's fine, but some guys.

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Speaker 1: You you talk to any coach, you talk to any teacher. Hell,

654
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Speaker 1: you think about your own family. You know, if you

655
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Speaker 1: have three or four kids in your own family, if

656
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Speaker 1: you're whether as a parent or whether as a sibling,

657
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: you know you're all wired differently. Hell, you get two

658
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Speaker 1: dogs from the anime litter, and one dog's personality is

659
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Speaker 1: the polar opposite of other dogs. Personality so different with players.

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Speaker 1: So John's personality might have resonated with a couple of guys,

661
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: but it probably didn't resonate with other guys, and clearly

662
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Speaker 1: he wasn't getting the most out of it. It was

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Speaker 1: not working. So Mark Davis should thank his lucky stars

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Speaker 1: that this hole happened because he got to rid himself

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Speaker 1: of Potentially, I don't want to say Gruden was the

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Speaker 1: entire problem, because he's a big reason that a lot

667
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Speaker 1: of these guys are on the roster. He's a big

668
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Speaker 1: reason Darren Waller's on the roster. He's a big reason

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby's on the roster. He's a big reason Henry

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Speaker 1: Ruggs is on the roster. So it wasn't like he

671
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Speaker 1: was some complete failure and he was, you know, I

672
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Speaker 1: was starting to kind of head in the right direction

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Speaker 1: kind of. But I think by no means with John Gruden,

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Speaker 1: would they have been locked to win these last two games.

675
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Speaker 1: I have no chance. They probably dropped one of the

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Speaker 1: two of them. But with Derek Carr and his their

677
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Speaker 1: head coach, Rich Biscachia, it's a tough name to say

678
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Speaker 1: Italian name said the Derek Carr is basically the voice

679
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: of the team now, and Derek just gets to do that,

680
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: and he does it more with like joy and love

681
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: then Gruden style of just anger and efforts and as

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Speaker 1: someone that swears a lot, I'm not anti efforts, but

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Speaker 1: it doesn't work with everyone that way. Let's get into

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Speaker 1: something in Sean McVeigh and Cal shanahan and listen, if

685
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Speaker 1: you go to social media, there is an excuse for

686
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: everything you can make, and every human being can make

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00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: an excuse for anything, right, and listen, sometimes excuses are justified.

688
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: Right if you if you have a quota every quarter

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Speaker 1: of five thousand dollars in sales and one quarter you

690
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Speaker 1: know you only sell a hundred, but you have a

691
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Speaker 1: long resume of getting the job done. You can say, listen, uh,

692
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Speaker 1: my kid was sick, I got sick, I was off.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you can and your boss or the owner of

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Speaker 1: the company go, no big deal, it's not a problem.

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Speaker 1: But if you have four or five or eight straight

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Speaker 1: quarters of not living up to the numbers of the

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Speaker 1: quotas that you're supposed to hit like, you're excuses eventually

698
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Speaker 1: run dry. In the world I live in like I

699
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: either produce or I don't. I either do that. Like,

700
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Speaker 1: there's no one to fill in on my podcast. So

701
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Speaker 1: if I'm sick. Last week, I was so hung over,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was it was insane. I hadn't been

703
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Speaker 1: then hungover. It felt like in like five years. But

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Speaker 1: I have no choice and it was my own decision

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Speaker 1: to go out hard on Saturday night. Uh. But if

706
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Speaker 1: I don't do the podcast, it does not get done

707
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: and no money is generated. It's just black and white.

708
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure many people listening if you've had a delhi,

709
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Speaker 1: if if you've got any business, you either do it

710
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: or does not get done. It's just a reality of life.

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Speaker 1: And listen, we all have different curve balls that come

712
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Speaker 1: in that you need a day off, that you need

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Speaker 1: a week off, that that happens. We're all human beings.

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Speaker 1: But eventually your resume kind of speaks for itself. And

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Speaker 1: the Niners forever have made this excuse about injuries and

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Speaker 1: it's been valid. They have had more players injured than

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Speaker 1: anything I've ever seen. It's crazy. Guys go down all

718
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Speaker 1: the time for five straight years, just guys getting injured,

719
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Speaker 1: Guys getting injured, guys getting injured, and this team guys

720
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: are still getting injured. But eventually your resume as a

721
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: head coach is simply black and white. You get judged

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Speaker 1: on wins and losses. My favorite part about pro sports

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Speaker 1: it's it's very simple. There is a defined winner and

724
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Speaker 1: a loser every week. I say it all the time.

725
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Speaker 1: In business, there's not like a defined winner and a

726
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: loser in business because you can always make more money.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not like you can't win like some championship.

728
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Speaker 1: But in pro sports it's very definitive. You either win

729
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Speaker 1: the game, you lose the game. Either win the division,

730
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Speaker 1: you lose the division. You either make the playoffs you

731
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Speaker 1: don't make the playofs. You either make the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: you don't make the super Bowl. Right and right now,

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh. Here, here are four numbers that stand out

734
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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh forty nine and twenty two in his career,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan thirty one and thirty nine. We can make

736
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Speaker 1: a mill excuses quarterbacks injuries. You know, the Niners last

737
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Speaker 1: year got kicked out of say Anna Clara because of

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Speaker 1: these radical politicians and had to play away games in Arizona.

739
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: That's insanity. So we can light them all up. But

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Speaker 1: this year, with Super Bowl expectations, they look terrible. They

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Speaker 1: look god awful, they look unprepared. And I am not

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Speaker 1: some Kyle Shanahan hater, though I'm critical of them this

743
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: year because I think any great person like Bill Gates,

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00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: Elon musk Uh, Steve jobs, they missed, they had bad

745
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: six months stretches, they had bad years, they made bad decisions.

746
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Speaker 1: You can be great at your job and have poor performances,

747
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Speaker 1: and right now Kyle Shanahan is having an awful performance

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Speaker 1: in two thousand one. Also, I can't remember where I

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Speaker 1: wrote this down, but I got this little quote section

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Speaker 1: I try to keep in my my notepad and on

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Speaker 1: my phone, and I think it might have been on

752
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Speaker 1: some like inspirational super multimillionaire guy on Instagram. He said

753
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: that the difference between wealthy people and non healthy people

754
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: is the wealthy guy will always take a short term

755
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: loss for a long term gain every fucking time. And

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, like, if you're listening to

757
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Speaker 1: this and you make a hundred thousand dollars, and I

758
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: came to you and I offered you four hundred thousand dollars,

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Speaker 1: I said, leave your job. For four hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: The overwhelming majority of people, and it's guaranteed money. Let's

761
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Speaker 1: give you a two year deal, right, eight hundred thousand

762
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: dollars would not even flinch a bit. Give me the money.

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Speaker 1: There would be a small percentage of smart people be like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I would take a little less money. Can

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Speaker 1: I get some points in the deal. Can I get

766
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Speaker 1: some equity in the deal? Can I can I get um,

767
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, some sales bonuses. They would negotiate some big

768
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Speaker 1: picture thoughts because they think big picture. You can't always

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Speaker 1: live short term. Now, Listen, sometimes you gotta worry about

770
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Speaker 1: feeding your family. I'm not saying that, but anyone to me,

771
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Speaker 1: successful in any walk of life, in any industry, always

772
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Speaker 1: thinks big picture. And Kyle Shanahan was tessed. Was starting

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Speaker 1: the season with Jimmy Garoppolo, and I could not, for

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Speaker 1: the life of me, I understood. Trey Lance had barely played.

775
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Speaker 1: He had played the one game last season because Division

776
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Speaker 1: one Double A football was canceled and they their season

777
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: was canceled. He had no choice. It wasn't even it

778
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: wasn't his fault, but his reps. He was only a

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Speaker 1: one year starter. He had limited playing time. He was

780
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Speaker 1: a major project. But once you invest three first round picks,

781
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: the only way you learned at quarterback, like obviously you

782
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: can learn on the practice field in the meeting room,

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00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: you have to learn by playing games. And Kyle Shanahan

784
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: was obsessed with basically giving him a redshirt year. And

785
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: I understood when Andy Reid did it with Patrick Mahomes

786
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Speaker 1: because his starting quarterback was Alex Smith, who had had

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Speaker 1: a long resume of making the playoffs. Jimmy Garoppolo could

788
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: not stay healthy. He already got hurt this season and

789
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Speaker 1: it forced Trey Lance to get thrown in the game.

790
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: But I didn't at why Kyle Shanahan couldn't go Listen,

791
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Speaker 1: we might lose some games this year, but in the

792
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: next couple of years, span thinking big picture, I am

793
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Speaker 1: gonna be a mother because this guy is gonna be

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Speaker 1: so prepared and gonna learn so much from potential some

795
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Speaker 1: failures that when you see me in two thousand twenty two,

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Speaker 1: when you see me in two thousand twenty three, when

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00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: you see me in two thousand four, you better be

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Speaker 1: fucking ready, because I'm gonna get this guy so ready.

799
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this guy so good, but he was

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Speaker 1: obsessed because a lot of coaches are in the short

801
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: term mindset. I just gotta beat the Eagles this week.

802
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: I just gotta beat Seattle this week. But the reality

803
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Speaker 1: is you're not beating any of these teams. You lost

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Speaker 1: four games in a row, three of them with Jimmy,

805
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: so you're not winning any games with Jimmy. Andy Reid.

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Speaker 1: The year that he read shirted Patrick Mahomes, they won

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Speaker 1: the a f C West. They clinched the division by

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Speaker 1: week sixteen, you know, the final week of the season,

809
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Speaker 1: Mahomes got to play because they had clinched home field. Clearly,

810
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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan had this false sense of his own team.

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Speaker 1: They are not sniffing the play offs right now, and

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Speaker 1: they have a quarterback who's only got to play one game,

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Speaker 1: and then that game he got hurt. Where if Kyle

814
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Speaker 1: could have seen the big picture, like, Kyle, you have

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Speaker 1: a six year contract. You were a guy that like

816
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Speaker 1: put all your chips on the table, and like I said, well,

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Speaker 1: Joe Douglas, I admire that having some balls taking a

818
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Speaker 1: big swing. Most humans in any walk life are terrified.

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00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: They love staying in the slow lane. They play it safe,

820
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: they play scared. That's not the way to win. And

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you're always gonna dominate in the fast lane,

822
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: but you gotta operate there if you want to win

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Speaker 1: big the the obviously, the chief did it once upon

824
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: a time when they traded up for Mahomes. The Bills

825
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: did it when they traded up for Josh Allen. You

826
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: gotta take big swings, and the Niners did, and then

827
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: they refused to let the guy fail because they were

828
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Speaker 1: so obsessed with the short term instead of thinking long term.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know for an office, people don't think

830
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Speaker 1: like that. We always thought big picture because we think talent.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is not that good. For whatever reason, he

832
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: got worse the last couple of years, and I think

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00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: a big part of that was he got injured a lot,

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't get to practice. And if you don't

835
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Speaker 1: practice in football, you get worse. This isn't baseball, this

836
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Speaker 1: isn't basketball. You don't get to play that many games,

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Speaker 1: so you have to practice, and he gotta play, and

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00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: Jimmy didn't either. And Kyle Shanahan right now is eight

839
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: games under five in his career, and listen Jedi York

840
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: doesn't even care we were dealing with some crazy owner.

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00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: Jenny York wants Kyle Shanahan to succeed. Kyle Shannon is

842
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: not on some hot seat. I think Kyle Shannon is

843
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: a good coach. I think it's miscalculation of this situation

844
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Speaker 1: because he was obsessed with like winning October in two

845
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Speaker 1: thousand twenty one, when he had this quarterback that he

846
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Speaker 1: paid all these draft picks for. Was not just a miscalculation,

847
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: it was a major mistake and now he's paying for

848
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Speaker 1: it because he's not winning games anyway. Now, Sean mcveigh's situation, like,

849
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: obviously he got a plug and play player in in

850
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: uh In Matt Stafford. But all Sean McVeigh does, All

851
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: he does is win. And when did he has twenty

852
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: seven games over five hundred. They both got head jobs

853
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: the same year. Now it was clear right when he

854
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: got there, the Rams were a little more equipped. But

855
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: still we see Jared goffs like Jared Goff was that good.

856
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: So this notion that, like I I just think Kyle

857
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: needs to do some self evaluation, needs to look in

858
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: the mirror, and it's hard. Kyle Shanahan has power with

859
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: the forty Niners. That was like Jon Gruden with the Raiders.

860
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: He has unlimited Every player on the roster is handpicked

861
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: by him. He is the boss. He has complete control

862
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: of every decision making apparatus on the team, the draft,

863
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: free agency, if a waiver claim. If he says no,

864
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: the answer is no. And I think the way he

865
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: operated with this quarterback and his faith for whatever reason

866
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: in Jimmy Garoppolo has come back to buy them. I

867
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: was alerted by my producer James that there were some people,

868
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: uh I talked about on Monday about Jamaar Chase and

869
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: his stardom, and I guess a lot of people on

870
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: the social media streets were like, he's not Randy Moss though,

871
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: and Randy Moss as a rookie, and anyone that's watched

872
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: the thirty for thirty on Randy, like Randy shouldn't have

873
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: been at Marshall, you know, Randy should have been a

874
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: Florida State or Notre Dame. I mean, he's one of

875
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: the greatest probably recruits ever. Uh, he's clearly one of

876
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: the greatest NFL players ever. He's a freak, and then

877
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: he fell in that draft because of the character concerns,

878
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: and he ended up on a team the Minnesota Vikings,

879
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: who you know, I think it's rookie year. They went

880
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship game and they lost at home

881
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: to the to the Dirty Birds, and he was incredible.

882
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: He scored seventeen touchdowns as a rookie. And I don't

883
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: think Jamaar Chase justin Jefferson, who also had statistically the

884
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: greatest rookie season last year of any rookie in terms

885
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: of catches, like, the league is a lot different when

886
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 1: Randy came in the league in the late nineties, Uh,

887
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: no one cared about concussions. You couldn't run over the middle.

888
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: The game was the game was different. The running game

889
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: was obviously much more of a part of every team's operation. Though.

890
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 1: When he got to Minnesota, they had Chris Carter, who's

891
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: also a Hall of Famer. They had Robert Smith, who's

892
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: just who was kind of like a poor man's Marshall Falk.

893
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: They were awesome. They had a guy, I forget his name,

894
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: Jake something eighty six ball or two their offensive suite.

895
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase goes to the Bengals, who every single person

896
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: and I would imagine most Bengal fans listening did not

897
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: think the team is gonna be very good, and through

898
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: seven games. Pulled up some stats here that Randy had

899
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: six touchdowns through seven games and he went on to

900
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: have seven. Team Jamar Chase also was six, and obviously

901
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: he's got the extra game to work with. But he

902
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: is on pace like he's gonna have seventeen or eighteen touchdowns.

903
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: Now if I had to bet, probably more realistically it'll

904
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: be like thirteen or fourteen. But I don't think it's inconceivable. Uh,

905
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: he is. He's different, right, he does not. Randy's probably

906
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: just you know, in terms of the op guys Jerry Rice,

907
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, like he

908
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: is just he's so much different than them, all right, Terrell, Owens,

909
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: Larry and Calvin were so physical, right, they were like

910
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: NBA players. Randy was too, but he was also so

911
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know the right, eloquent and just smooth

912
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: and fast, but he could jump and he had it all.

913
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just probably one of the most unique

914
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: athletes in sports history. This guy looks just like he's

915
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: much smaller, but he's so physical that I think he's

916
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: got a chance to be an all time great player.

917
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: And so does his teammate Justin Jefferson. I mean, who's

918
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: also killing it this year. But it's pretty remarkable to

919
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: see how great he is immediately, And unlike right he

920
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: doesn't have Chris Carter, T Haggens, T Higgins. When when

921
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: the desk settles and the career ends, I would imagine

922
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: te higgins career is not Chris Carter's. Right now. Joe

923
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: Mixon is pretty good. But what Jamar is doing, and

924
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: especially yesterday, and everyone in that stadium on their couch

925
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: knew that they were throwing it to him. They couldn't

926
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: do anything. They could not stop him. And um, I'm

927
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: not saying he's gonna be Randy Moss or Jerry Rice,

928
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: but I'd say as a rookie like Randy, he immediately

929
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: is you know Randy was a top four or five

930
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: player right away, right, I don't know. You know Jamar

931
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: in a vacuum just Bruce seven games is a top

932
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: ten wide receiver right now in the NFL. And if

933
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: you want to argue his top five, I don't know

934
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 1: if i'd push against you, not with what I've seen

935
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: not statistically what he's doing. He's averaging over a hundred

936
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: yards of game. I mean, it's just hundred yards of

937
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: game is rookie for a guy that couldn't catch it

938
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: a month ago, right or two months ago now in August,

939
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: it really is remarkable. It speaks to Joe Burrow the

940
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: scout because he pounded the table. And it's it's the

941
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: best part about the NFL is every year like we

942
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: don't we don't really get this in baseball. We definitely

943
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: don't get this in the NBA, not a soul saw

944
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: the Bengals, you know, competing to be a play off team,

945
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't know how. You watch him yesterday

946
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: and go if if Burrow and Chase stay healthy, how

947
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: they are not a playoff team. And it's just something

948
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: that we consistently get. You know, every fall is a

949
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: team that no one expected makes the playoffs. And and

950
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: if you just make the playoffs, it's not seven game series,

951
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: it's just one off games. And if they were somehow

952
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: to win this division, they would get a home game,

953
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: right and unlike some of those Marvin Lewis teams that

954
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: could never win a playoff game, Andy Dalton had major limitations.

955
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: Like I said with Donald Ta, Jalen Hurts and Jimmy

956
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: g When you do not have a big arm and

957
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: you play outside in cold weather places, it can expose

958
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: you fast. And I thought it always did. And Andy

959
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: played on really really good teams. You Burrow doesn't have

960
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: a great arm, but it's better Thandy Dalton. I mean,

961
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: he's a much better player than Andy Daltons. Now. I

962
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: don't think this Bengal team on paper is quite as

963
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: good as some of those Dalton teams. But when you

964
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: have a quarterback who's this damn good who knows man,

965
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: I I would not discount them, you know, not just

966
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: making the playoffs, but kind of being a factor if

967
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: they can stay healthy. Okay, let's go a little Middlecoff

968
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram handle two

969
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 1: f's the Eagles and Fresno State, two places I worked

970
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: right out of college. Neither of them spelled my name

971
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: right with the name plate always offended me. Kept a

972
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: little chip on the shoulder. It's like, you guys can't

973
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: even I guess there wasn't linked in back then, but

974
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: still you know he can't spell spell my name? Right.

975
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: Two f's at John Middlecoff start with Mike My question,

976
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: why does an l s U go after Joe Brady.

977
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: He seems like everyone is saying Lane. But given all

978
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: the success Joe had their in nineteen, wouldn't he be

979
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: a good fit. He's also young and proven to be

980
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: able to develop a quarterback. Well, I stumbled upon. I

981
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: don't know if it was like an l s U

982
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: message board or an article that was written in Bad

983
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: and Rouge. One thing that Brady had told his confidence

984
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: and let's face it, it's not you know, Sam Donald

985
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: is a disaster right now. Uh now, he was a

986
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: disaster before Joe Brady got there. But it's not like

987
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: Joe Brady has vaulted his stock with great coaching in

988
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: terms of the quarterback. Now. I like Joe Brady, but

989
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 1: just a couple of years ago, he was a quality

990
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: control guy, right He He was not this Mr can't

991
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: miss coach. The thing that I read is that people

992
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: around the L s U program he hated recruiting. He

993
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: is a you know, he is like an NFL wired.

994
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: He just wants to game plan, talk ball xs and nos,

995
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: not recruit the Jimmy's and the Joe's And when you

996
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: coach in college at a program like LSU, you're the

997
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: head coach. I would imagine he would also be the

998
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, recruiting, recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. It would wear your

999
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: ass out. And from the story that I had read, uh,

1000
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 1: and I think you can google this is he doesn't

1001
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: want to recruit, and I just don't blame him. And

1002
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: I think he just has to keep swinging his pick

1003
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: and he'll eventually be an NFL head coach. So I

1004
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: would say that, Uh, I'd say that's the reason they

1005
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: need to get a guy who loves who's a good

1006
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: coach and loves to recruit. Nick Saban, Kirby, Smart Urban Meyer,

1007
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: Ryan Day, Right, Uh, you know Mario, you know he

1008
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: can recruit and he likes to coach. So you know,

1009
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: their guys Chris Peterson was like this in college. You

1010
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: know you can Chris you know, Uh, Pete almost said

1011
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: Chris Pete Carroll when he was at USC, total package

1012
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: coach defense even though he wasn't the defensive coordinator. They

1013
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: actually had that bald guy. But you know what I mean,

1014
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: he was, you know, an integral you know, he loved

1015
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: the coaching aspect, But he loved to recruit. So if

1016
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: you love to recruit and you just treat it like

1017
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: a competition in itself, and I think that's what Saban does.

1018
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: He treats recruiting like like a game, and he plans

1019
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: on winning that fucking game. And he does. If the

1020
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: Browns can stay healthy, do you think they have a

1021
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: chance of making noise in the playoffs? Well, they're not

1022
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: even close to healthy, so I I I would say

1023
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: no because I just do not trust Baker Mayfield in

1024
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: a playoff game. I even I know he won that

1025
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: game last year, but it was against Roethlisberger. I think

1026
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: when you look at the playoff teams they'd have to play,

1027
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: they'd have the worst quarterback of all the teams, right,

1028
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: the Chargers, Raiders or Chiefs uh lamar uh, the Bills,

1029
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they just they have a quarterback. Now the Titans.

1030
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: They can beat the Titans, but the Titans are gonna

1031
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: be like a four seed. So I I don't think so.

1032
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: And I the Browns are good, right, if Chubb's healthy,

1033
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: if Kareem Hunts healthy, they get their offensive line healthy,

1034
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 1: Jarvis back, make noise, they can win a game. I guess,

1035
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: but I don't think they could make quote unquote noise

1036
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: in terms of winning the FC. I just don't think

1037
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: he's good enough. And I'm not. I'm not some Baker hater.

1038
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: Some people like you're just doing Collin's dirty work. You're

1039
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: just your boss tells you to hate Baker Mayfield. No,

1040
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't even think I've ever taught a

1041
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: Colin about Baker Mayfield. Maybe just besides, like on an

1042
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: interview before, but like we don't text about him. I

1043
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: don't care. I'm in agreement, and I told him this

1044
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: actually when Baker was coming out, I liked him more

1045
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: coming out than Colin did. But I am an agreement

1046
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: his limitations. Now, I don't think you can really argue

1047
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: it like he is their problem. You put Josh Allen

1048
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: if they could redo the draft, think about this, if

1049
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: you could redo the two thousand eighteen draft, I think

1050
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: the only question is who goes one, Josh Allen or

1051
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Probably Josh Allen, because I do think Lamar,

1052
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: while he's gotten a lot better early on, you have

1053
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: to curtail your offense, and only you know Greg Roman

1054
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: was he equipped to do that because he had coached

1055
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: with Kaepernick and he had kind of instituted and taken

1056
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: that Nevada pistol, and he was just he had a

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00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: unique skill set to be able to do that. Now

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00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: Lamar credit to him has developed into this pastor. But

1059
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer. Who's going one and two? It's

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00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: one of those two guys and the other guy's going

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00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: to right. With all the problems the Dolphins are having

1062
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: a orter back at the moment, an uncertainty about Deshaun Watson,

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00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: my shout would be to Cam Newton got his Jack Now, Jack,

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00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: I think you meant to say jab, he said, Jack,

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00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 1: But I know what you're saying. We'll open some running

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00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: playbook options and warm Weather Yeah to uh, you know that.

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00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: To me, you draft to a number five overall, even

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00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna make this trade for Watson, and

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00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: obviously as of recording this they haven't made, it could

1070
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: happen at any moment. Uh, they are just gonna write

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00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: it out with tou and to a lit up the

1072
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons defense, which is terrible. But you just gotta

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00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: you just gotta keep getting him reps and see if

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00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: he could ever just be a serviceable like top fifteen quarterback. Right,

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00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: we know he's never gonna be a top five guy.

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00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say I believe he's never

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Speaker 1: gonna be a top ten guy. I think you just

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Speaker 1: ask yourself, can you become like the little left handed

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00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: version of Alex Smith? Can he become that? I would

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00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: say no, But if you're the Dolphins and you've used

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Speaker 1: the fifth pick. Now, there's also the counter argument of

1082
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: when you make a bad investment in life. If you

1083
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: run a business as a homeowner, as just an independent investor,

1084
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: do you chase that right? Like I bought a bunch

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00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: of stocks over the last year. Every single one of

1086
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: them dipped, all of them, some dipped fifty plus percent.

1087
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: I had two options. I could either write it out

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00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: and let it go back up. I guess I had

1089
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: three options. I could write it out, let it go

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00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: back up, and who knows, maybe it wouldn't. I could

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00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: sell at an at a loss, you know, and basically

1092
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: just wave the white flag. Or I could chase my

1093
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: loss and hopefully one day would be a game. Keep investing.

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00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: It's why my my game or not a gambling philosophy,

1095
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: my investing in philosophy. I tend to only buy when

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00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: things go red, right, I buy on red days because

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00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: it's cheaper, right. And definitely, if I buy something in

1098
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: a hundred dollars and then it goes down to eighty

1099
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: dollars and seventy dollars, well, if I love the company,

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00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: I keep buying more. If I do not like the

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00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: company and I regret it and I don't need the money,

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00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: I just let it be. If I have to have

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00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: the cash, then I sell at a loss. Ideally, you

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00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: don't ever want to sell at a loss. And when

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00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: you invest the fifth overall pick, you know, that's the

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00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: equivalent of investing sev of your portfolio into one stock,

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00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: so that the amount of capital in investment they've put

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00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: into two is pretty high. Now, if they trade for

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00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, they've basically just immediately pivoted and they sold,

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00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: and they just waved the white flag, and they basically

1111
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: probably tried to pawn two off. But what would too

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00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: be worth? I think we talked about that last week

1113
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: when the rumor broke. Could they get a second round

1114
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: pick for TWA He's halfway through year two. He was

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00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: the fifth overall pick, so it's it's not like he

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00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: makes thousand dollars. I would guess he makes six seven

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00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Is he a seven million dollar quarterback? Maybe? Yeah, probably,

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00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: But do you want to trade a second round pick

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00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: for a guy that you're probably not gonna give a

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Speaker 1: second contract to. It's a it's a complicated situation, and

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00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: it all boils back to they fucked up the pick.

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00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: They missed A whiffed. Whiffed would be strong because two

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Speaker 1: A can you know to A can start games. But

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00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: they took the wrong guy. Anytime you take the wrong

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00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: guy at quarterback, it is a devastating pick. It really is,

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Speaker 1: and most people do not get put in the position

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: Steve Kim got into right. Steve Kim drafted the wrong guy,

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, and I agreed with this pick at the time.

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Speaker 1: I would have taken Josh Rosen too. Then the next

1130
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Speaker 1: year he takes Kyler. Murray's the best thing he ever did,

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00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: smartest pick of his life. And he's made great picks. Right,

1132
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: Honey Badger, David Johnson, Buddha Baker. He traded for Calvin. Uh, Calvin,

1133
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm a little my head's not quite firing on all cylinders.

1134
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: Maybe I got the long COVID or something. Chandler Jones,

1135
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: He's made fantastic moves. The most important move I guess

1136
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: he traded for Carson Palmer too. But anytime you get

1137
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: a guy on a rookie contract that is a it's

1138
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: really really important, right And he didn't even have to

1139
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 1: He just used his pick next year to get de

1140
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Speaker 1: Shaun Watson. They're gonna have to trade so many first

1141
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: round picks. That sucks. It really sucks because they could

1142
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: just have Justin Herbert. I love the pod following you

1143
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: for six months now. I'm a huge Cleveland fan, but

1144
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about the future quarterback. With Baker's future

1145
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: on the line this year, it puts the Browns in

1146
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: a tough spot. You see a quarterback that would fit

1147
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: in Stefanski system that could be a big time playmaker.

1148
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: Rogers and Wilson seen no ideal, but don't have hope

1149
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: of that happening. I would agree, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers

1150
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: not coming to the Cleveland Browns. Love to hear your take.

1151
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: You know Baker fits Baker works, Case, Keenom Works, Kirk

1152
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: Cousins Works, Matt Shop works. We've seen average quarterback Jimmy

1153
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: Garoppolo worked for a while. You can run with average

1154
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this offense and function. I think, ultimately, though,

1155
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: you want a top flight quarterback because if you get

1156
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: a high end guy, he can function in this offense.

1157
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: Look at Rogers and he can do other ship. So

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01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: I just think you want to get the best possible quarterback, like, yeah,

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01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: that's accurate. A guy that's mobile, um, a guy that's

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Speaker 1: really talented and he'll thrive in this offense. That would

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Speaker 1: be my take. Do you see Zack Wilson as our guy?

1162
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Speaker 1: Lifelong Jets fan? Do you see Zack Wilson as a guy?

1163
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Speaker 1: And if so, what pieces do we need around him

1164
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Speaker 1: to end my decade of pain and misery. I haven't

1165
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: watched that much Jets football, but I would say I'm

1166
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna knock Zack Wilson for poor play

1167
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: this year. He's injured now, but the offensive lines banged up,

1168
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: their offensive weapons are pretty putrid. Their teams and shambles,

1169
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: their teams and champels. His offensive coordinator never called plays. Uh.

1170
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Speaker 1: I think next year, given that they got two first

1171
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: round picks there and hopefully Beckton's healthy, they've draft an

1172
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: offensive lineman this year as well, so you're gonna have

1173
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: a much better offensive line. Hopefully you add some skill guys.

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Speaker 1: I would go land like a Drake London from USC

1175
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: Put him with what's the Elijah is Elijah Mitchell? Now

1176
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: that's the forty Niners wide receiver, run back whatever you're wide,

1177
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore the wide receiver from Old Miss. Get a

1178
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: big guy to go with the speed guy. You have

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01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: a good running back that you drafted I think in

1180
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 1: the fourth round from North Carolina, Carter the last name.

1181
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, you start building around Zach Wilson.

1182
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: That would be my focus. I would do everything humanly

1183
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: possible to build around Zack Wilson. Get them skilled guys,

1184
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: get them, get them impact players. And I don't think

1185
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: you can probably even begin to judge him until started

1186
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: next year. I I really don't. Is he your guy?

1187
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: I I can't say that, But do I think he's

1188
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: good or bad? I I'm not going to make an

1189
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: a judgment until I judge him next year. This year

1190
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: is a joke. I mean this year they're terrible. They're

1191
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:47,479
Speaker 1: absolutely terrible, terrible, as Charles would say, they're really bad.

1192
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: And I can't put that on a rookie quarterback who's

1193
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: came out early from b Y U like, that ain't

1194
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: his fault. It's not. I put that on the I

1195
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: put that on Joe Douglas. I put that on you know,

1196
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: solid and the coaching staff. I do not put that

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Speaker 1: on Zack Wilson. So I would say, you just you

1198
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: just gotta wait, You just gotta wait till next year.

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Speaker 1: Use a couple of those top picks on offensive players.

1200
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: I would not funk with the defense until I put

1201
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: everything I possibly could around Zack Wilson. Who do you

1202
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Speaker 1: think is the bigger bust, Josh Rosen or Tua Well,

1203
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: it's not even close. It's Rosen's, you know, a practice

1204
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: squad level player to a is starting quarterback in the NFL.

1205
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: He just threw for three something yards against I know

1206
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Speaker 1: it was Atlanta, but it's Rosen. Rosen in a crazy way,

1207
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: is one of the biggest busts of all time. Now,

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01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like he's like a bad guy. It

1209
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: doesn't seem that he's you know, lazy. You know, JaMarcus

1210
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: was like doing drugs. Ryan Leaf was just at the

1211
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: time a major asshole. Uh and didn't study or anything.

1212
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case with Rosen. I just

1213
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: think he's not very good, which is nuts. I thought

1214
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: he was he a move Watch him at practice. He's

1215
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: not that accurate when he was with the Niners. Bad athlete.

1216
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: Um just not a very good player. Just if you

1217
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: didn't know he was a top ten pick and you

1218
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: just put him against some random guy who was an

1219
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: undrafted free agency you would not know the difference. And

1220
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: whether that's just the case that that first year with Arizona,

1221
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: when they were that terrible, it ruined his career, I

1222
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't I'd have to talk to people

1223
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: that have spent time around him to get some better insight.

1224
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: But I don't even think it's close. I mean, Josh

1225
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Speaker 1: Rosen will go down. He was a number ten overall pick,

1226
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: and two years later he was on practice squads, practice squads.

1227
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Speaker 1: S Allen iverson, they're talking about practice. That's the only

1228
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: place he plays is in practice. So it's Josh Rosen

1229
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Speaker 1: is just from a pure talent standpoint, well, I think

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest bus we've ever seen. Appreciate everyone listening.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you tell your friends, share this podcast. Put

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Speaker 1: it in text chains mentioned it. If you you can

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Speaker 1: know people that like football. We're grassroots here. We're just

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01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: a little blue collar group, you know, trying to make it.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening and uh and have a good day.

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Speaker 1: I will see you later this week. Friday Audios. The

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