1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, combine leftovers, looking back 2 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: to what the general manager and head coach had to 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: say and whether we can connect any dots. But first 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: all reaction to Russell Wilson leaving the division. Just how 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: dramatically had things changed in the NFC West. It's Cardinals 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode five forty two, and it starts now. 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com, Slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand 11 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 1: to catch in a touchdown, DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou 12 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki a day later, and I'm still in 13 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: shuck MG. We always hear offseason, Oh, this quarterback can 14 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: move to that team and how many different places will 15 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: this quarterback perhaps be linked to in the different movements 16 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks in the offseason, and it never happens now 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: in two off seasons. Last year it was Matthew Stafford, 18 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: this year it's Russell Wilson. Yet this one. This one 19 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: feels different to me, and I don't know if it's 20 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: because it's win the division or it's a fact that 21 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: I think based off resume, Russell Wilson is far superior 22 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: at this point or going into last season than a 23 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. Yeah. You know, being in a business as 24 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: long as we have, you know, there's not a lot 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: of times a while factor now getting a chance to 26 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: work for the organization where anybody gets released they have 27 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: interest in this guy, and just we'll say it, anybody 28 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: gets released, they're gonna look at the film and make 29 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: a decision. It always comes down to fit and obviously 30 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: their contracts. But yestually was a while factor for me. 31 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: It's rare that you get surprised, like really genuinely surprised 32 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: by a move within the National Football League because stuff 33 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: gets leaked in, you know, this report and then maybe 34 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: later on or a couple of days later, but out 35 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: of nowhere. And I'll go back to DeAndre Hopkins, the 36 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: Cardinals acquiring him, JJ Watt all of a sudden reporting 37 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: his own news. Now he's an Arizona Cardinal, So that 38 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: was a while factor. This this kind of is on 39 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: that same level and look, I'm not upset. In fact, 40 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm probably like a lot of Cardinal fans, I'm celebrating 41 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: the fact that Russell Wilson is no longer in the 42 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: NFC West Division. He's good news for the Cardinals. Yes, 43 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: and that's part of the doing business. No, you know, 44 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: the thing is he's been a thorn in the Cardinals 45 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: side for I mean, it really more at home, more 46 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: in Glendale than it was in Seattle. I mean, it's 47 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: weird about both teams would play better, but I can't. 48 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that night. It was a Thursday night game, 49 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: maybe against the Seahawks, and maybe that was the Marshawn 50 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: Lynch game where he grabbed his crotch and I just 51 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: couldn't believe, Like, and usually when the Thursday night crews here, 52 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: they have a set on and there was all the twelves, 53 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: all the twelves were in that and that bothers me. 54 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: And like it happened with the minutes another game, the 55 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: Packers game. It's like, you don't come to our house 56 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: like that. And but he's been a thorn in the 57 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals side for years, and you know they are going 58 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: to play him though one least it's not twice a year, 59 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: and we won't see him for the next four years. 60 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals play at Denver next season, so Russell Wilson in 61 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: that Broncos uniform, the Cardinals will see him. His record 62 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: against the Cardinals eleven eight and one, second most wins 63 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: against any opponent. He's sixteen and four against the forty 64 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: nine ers his career. His Seahawks career began and ended 65 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium, and we talked about that regular 66 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: season finale, Seahawks coming to town, and Darren Urban on 67 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: Easy Cardinals dot Com wrote, Hey, you know, remember his 68 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: first game was in this stadium. Potentially could this be 69 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: his last? And it was a talking point, but did 70 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: we ever really think that the Seahawks would trade away 71 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback because this does not happen a lot. 72 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: A Super Bowl winning quarterback does not get traded. Well, 73 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: just based on the injury and in the fact that 74 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: you didn't know if Pete Carroll was going to retire 75 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: and we didn't know, I mean so, and they definitely 76 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: went with a youth movement. When it comes to their 77 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: defensive side, they've they've definitely turned a page on prior coaches. 78 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: The complete overhaul of their defensive staff to a younger staff. 79 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: We're head coaches seven and then last year they bring 80 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: a a new offens according to he's young. Now, when 81 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: Wilson in his agent gave four or five teams last year, 82 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: I you know, maybe over the last couple of weeks 83 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: when well, actually when Pete Carroll, we'll talk about what 84 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: he said at the combine, because you know, you know 85 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders they offered three first round picks. They 86 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: didn't get three. Here they got two twos, two two twos, 87 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: a fifth plus three players including Drew Locke, which we 88 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: can get into owns right, But maybe you know, after 89 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: what Pete Carroll said me, I thought, you know, he 90 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: didn't want they didn't want to trade him to Washington. 91 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: It's the same conference and seems like they I mean, 92 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: they got a good defense, but you know they should 93 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: compete in that division. So it wasn't like he has 94 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: to win fifty fourteen games with them and the Cowboys 95 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: and the Eagles right right now. So but I thought 96 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: at the end of the year, this could be it 97 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: for him. But the last couple of weeks, I start 98 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: reading the tea leaves. Now let's go back to the combine. 99 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was asked about this, and this is in 100 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: somebody leaked the Washington things. So all of a sudden, 101 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: you probably think, if you're Denver and you don't care 102 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers, we had a backup plant. That happened 103 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: so quick. Well, the transactions or the reporting of all 104 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: this on Tuesday happened within hours of each other. But 105 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: this has been in the works, and I do believe 106 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: the Broncos were waiting on Aaron Rodgers or in the meantime, Hey, 107 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: if we can't get Aaron Rodgers, let's make sure we 108 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: have a backup plant. So now you're talking on two fronts. 109 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't like, oh, Aaron Rodgers made his decision to 110 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: return to Green Bay and then all of a sudden 111 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: the Bronchos picked up the phone and called the Seahawks. 112 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way. One had nothing to do 113 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: with the other. They had their they had their hands 114 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: on both. As far as if we couldn't get one, 115 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: we'll try the other, and vice versa. That's what I 116 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: think with the Denver Broncos. Yeah, and you know Nathan Hackett, 117 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna bring that offense that he had with Aaron Rodgers. 118 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be fascinating in that division. I 119 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: mean you're gonna see Russell Wilson and Pat Mahomes twice 120 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: a year, justin Herbert Derek Carr now best division in 121 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: football with respect to the quarterback quarterbacks because Derek Carr, 122 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: I know he gets he gets a lot of heat, 123 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: but he is the worst quarterback in that division. Yet 124 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: I do think still a very capable franchise quarterback. Yeah, 125 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: and considering all the clouds hanging over them last year 126 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: they made the playoffs, I mean play here and to 127 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: play there. They could have beat the Cincinnati Bengals on 128 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: the road but didn't happen. But yeah, he's gonna sign. 129 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: I think I read three years, one hundred millions, so 130 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: thirty three million a year, And that tells me that 131 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels and the new general manager they've signed off 132 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: on this. Watching film and feel like, you know that 133 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: maybe what's behind door number two does not it's not 134 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: an upgrade. So yeah, the AFC's loaded though. I mean 135 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: we talked about these young quarterbacks. I mean Buffalo, I 136 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: think if Lamar Jackson can stay healthy, you know you 137 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: gotta think New England's going to be in the race 138 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: just whether they win the division or not. They gotta 139 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: get some more weapons for Mac Jones. So yes, fascinating, 140 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: But um Seahawks do play the Broncos. So so when 141 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a primetime game, I've heard people talk 142 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: about Week one maybe on Monday Night football. Would you 143 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: try to save that? Well, you want to kick off 144 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: the season honor conference game versus a conference game. Yeah, 145 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: it's yeah, but they're Denver is gonna be on. They're 146 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of primetime games. Look, it's not 147 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: just us here on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyunday, 148 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals that are surprised and 149 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: shocked by this Buddha Baker on Twitter. Born and raised 150 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: in Washington, I would have never thought Russell Wilson was 151 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: going to be on another team from ditching school and 152 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: go into the Super Bowl parade in high school to 153 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: intercepting his football and an NFL game. Thank you Seattle 154 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: RUSS props. The Buddha Baker, who we all know grew 155 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: up in the Seattle area, so this I didn't know 156 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: he ditched school though, that wasn't that. I liked that part. Yeah, 157 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: but super Bowl winning quarterbacks. I actually had to go 158 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: back because I've heard talking heads on national television say 159 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: this is the biggest trade in NFL history, one of 160 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: the biggest, biggest trades in NFL history. Chefter I thought 161 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: he said it was a blockbuster or one of the 162 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: best or biggest, And I had to go back. All right, 163 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: name me the last Super Bowl winning quarterback to be traded, 164 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: and off the top of my head, I actually had 165 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: to go back and do some research. But off the 166 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: top of my head, the first name that came to 167 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: mine was Joe Montana. Now that's going back a ways. 168 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: Now you look at Joe Montana those last couple of 169 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: seasons with the forty nine ers. He wasn't starting. Steve 170 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: Young was now looking it up online. Brett Farve was traded. 171 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: Now he had retired, wanted to come back, and the 172 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: Packers said, no, no, no, We've got Aaron Rodgers wild 173 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: trade you. Then he played from the Jets minnesot Those 174 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: two don't compare to Russell Wilson because one, he's still 175 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: he's a starter. He still has at least maybe three 176 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: four or five six years left, if not more so. 177 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: He is still a playing at a very high, high level. 178 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: And it's interesting. Teams don't give up players of that caliber. 179 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: They don't give up they don't trade away star players, 180 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: and the Seattle Seahawks did for one reason or another. 181 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: And now it gets me thinking about what's going on 182 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: here in our own backyard, because when you do not 183 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback, you do not have a chance. 184 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: I referenced it the Broncos eleven different quarterbacks since Peyton 185 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Manning retired. And now if you're the Cardinals, Granted, there's 186 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: a lot of noise, and I get it. I've gone 187 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: back and forth on this, but to not have a 188 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, do you really want to go back to 189 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: the days before Carson Palmer, the days after Carson Palmer? Okay, 190 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: that's that's the scary thing, when you did not have 191 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback capable of winning double digit games. Okay, so 192 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: they moved here in nineteen eighty eight, Neil Lomax, if 193 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: he would have been able to stay healthy, I think 194 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: he would have had a really nice career. Obviously a 195 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: hip injury. Fast forward, you've only had really three good 196 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: quarterbacks Jake Plummer, Carson Palmer, Er, Kurt Warner, and now 197 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray nineteen eighty eight. You talked about eleven. Yeah, 198 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I think if I look at the top 199 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: fifteen teams in the league, and there's seventeen teams that 200 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: if they don't have that quarterback, they're not able, they're 201 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: not going to be able to win. And you know, 202 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: you look at Jacksonville, well they got a rookie quarterback. 203 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: The Bears got a rookie quarterback or second year quarterback. 204 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: Panthers was trying to find a quarterback. I gotta think 205 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna move on from Matt Ryan. The Commanders or 206 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: willing to spend any money on a quarterback. Saints need 207 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: a quarterback, Dolphins sounds like Mike Daniel is on board 208 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: with TWA. And then you throw in the Raiders, I 209 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: got a quarterback, Buccaneers don't have a quarterback, Stealers don't 210 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: have a quarterback. I mean, there's like twelve teams, and 211 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: then you know the Browns they're probably gonna bring in 212 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: some competition. Yeah, I mean, but the key is the 213 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: top teams Bills, Packers, Chiefs forty nine Ers, Broncos, Rams, Ravens, Bengals, Cowboys, Chargers, Titans, 214 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals all have quarterbacks and that's why they are in 215 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: the top fourteen. The next team is the Colts. They 216 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback in the NFC. Just looking at 217 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: the NFC alone, now that Russell Wilson is gone, the 218 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: top quarterbacks Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford, and then either Dak 219 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: Prescott or Kyler Murray, Kirk Cousins, Matt Ryan. And I 220 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: would say there's Aaron Rodgers at the top, a little 221 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: bit of a drop off, Matthew Stafford, a little bit 222 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: of a drop off, Kyle Murray, Dak Prescott I probably 223 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: put on the same level, and then again Kirk Cousins 224 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Now, neither one of those are world beaters. 225 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: But when you have a quarterback like that, you have 226 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: a chance on Sundays. Now, are those quarterbacks, whether you're 227 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: on the third fourth tier, capable of making a sustained 228 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: playoff run or getting you into the Super Bowl. That's 229 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: the question. But it's I tell you, it's a scary 230 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: proposition when you do not have someone capable under center 231 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: or in shotgun formation, regardless of the skill set. Because 232 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: Kyle Murray has a skill set unlike any other. Yet 233 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: you can win with a drop back quarterback, I e. 234 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady. But when you do not have that, 235 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: what do you have? How do you win? That's the question, 236 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: and that's the fear that I know a lot of 237 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: Cardinal fans have regarding this Kyler Murray situation. Now, he 238 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: is under contract and under control for several seasons, but 239 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: can you afford to lose him? That to me is 240 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: something that is going to be debated, and we'll be 241 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: until we do have something material as which I do 242 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: think personally amj something does get done between quarterback and 243 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: team before the start of training camp. Yeah, and again 244 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: just to protect themselves, on May third, they'll pick up 245 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: his fifth year option calls for about twenty eight twenty 246 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: nine million. He's already made thirty five. Obviously there's an 247 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: issue with his base salary for this year, but again 248 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: he's made thirty six million guaranteed. So I do think 249 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: something's going to get done. I would put him ahead 250 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott. Now, so let's look at the conference 251 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: as a whole. Packers they own that division, So the 252 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: Vikings are playing for basically a wild card right, Yes, 253 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: is Detroit right to make that next jump? I mean 254 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: they're a tough team. And then the Bears are rolling 255 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: with a new coaching staff and a second year quarterback. 256 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: Let's go to the Buccaneers. They don't have a quarterback, 257 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: but they still have good players the same they don't 258 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: have a quarterback, new headcar promoted form with the Dennis 259 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: Allen now and then you then you look at UM Atlanta. 260 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna be better in the future, but 261 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: at some point they're gonna have to pass the baton 262 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: from Matt Ryan to somebody else. And it wouldn't surprise 263 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: me if they took a guy in the second round 264 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: just to kind of groom. And then you know, then 265 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: you look at the Panthers, Um, Matt Rules got to win, 266 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: and they would they would draft a quarterback, possibly just 267 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: to save him some time. And then you look at 268 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: the UM I guess the NFC East. I think the 269 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals are the top four team in the conference. And 270 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm not drinking the kool late. I don't unless they're 271 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: bombardo with injuries and they happen in camp, or they 272 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: just just don't have the same chemistry. And I don't 273 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: think that's going to be the reason. But this team 274 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: should not take a step back. And you feel that 275 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: confident because of who your quarterback is. Yes, and when 276 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: you have a quarterback. Again, we've talked about it all 277 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: the time, and every team you gave the list, every 278 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: team is looking for that quarterback and spending either top 279 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: dollar or draft capital on trying to get that quarterback. 280 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: And why the Denver Broncos went out and gave up 281 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: a lot, the Rams gave up a lot. You need 282 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback in this league. And regardless of what happens 283 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: on the field, off the field, like him, don't like him, 284 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: the talent is there. So I keep coming back to 285 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray because I see now what the Seattle Seahawks 286 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: are going to be facing. And it's nothing against Drew 287 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: Locke or whether they do something with that ninth overall 288 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: pick or draft a quarterback. But still the Cardinals are 289 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: sitting pretty compared to a lot of teams in the 290 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: National Football Let's go back to the Super Bowl between 291 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers and the Chiefs. Russell Wilson wins the Walter 292 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: Payton Man of the Year Award. He's sitting in the 293 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: press box with Roger Goodell, and he's steaming and fuming 294 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: because he looks at the talent on both of those teams. 295 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: And Mike Sando I thought he had a good point. 296 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: He wants to be the next Tom Brady and Peyton 297 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: Manny Russ Russell says he once went three or four 298 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: super Bowls. We'll see what happens. But Tom Brady started this. 299 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: He did. Now this is a trade like Matthew Stafford. 300 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: But Brady goes to a new team, win a super Bowl. 301 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: Stafford goes to a new team, wins the Super Bowl. 302 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson goes a new team and the expectations are 303 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: super Bowl or bust. And that's a tough AFC West though. 304 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: Now you got to just try to get into the 305 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: dance regardless of win the division, right because I mean, 306 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna beat each other all up. So it's somebody 307 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: gonna be ten and six or ten and seven, eleven 308 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: and six, and then who's going to be the wild card? 309 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: You know, you got to figure out the Bills in 310 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: Cincinnati unless they take a step back. You know, Pittsburgh, 311 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens with a healthy Lamar Jackson that 312 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: they had they're well coached, even though they changed coordinators 313 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. I mean, as long as I think Jimmy 314 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: Garoppolo would be a great spot for the Steelers, run 315 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: the ball, doesn't I mean, doesn't have to, you know, 316 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: throw the boat out on the field. They got Nige Harris, 317 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: they got T. J. Watt, So I would think Pittsburgh 318 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: would have interest in Jimmy Garoppolo. The Russell Wilson news 319 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: not the only news concerning the Seattle Seahawks. Later on Tuesday, 320 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: March seventh, another tweets from ESPN's Adam Schefter Bobby Wagner 321 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: reportedly going to be released. There is we talked about 322 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: the coaching staff in an overhaul of this offseason. There 323 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: is a roster overhaul now out with the old, in 324 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: with the new. Because now I believe there is not 325 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: a single Seattle Seahawk player that played in their last 326 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl that was I think the last two were 327 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: Wagner and Wilson. Yeah, so that door and the way 328 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: he was talking. Remember he didn't play in that last 329 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: game because obviously it sounded like he wanted to continue 330 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: his career in Seattle. Now he doesn't have an agent, 331 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: so Technically, his phone could be ringing right now, and 332 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: it's just a matter off whether he wants to pick 333 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: it up or not. Yeah, I mean, I mean he's 334 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: probably think and I'm going to a contender. We lost 335 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: a lot of games in the last two years. But yeah, 336 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't have an agent, so literally teams 337 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: can call him right now and try to bring him in. 338 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: I mean again, it's what what is the fit and 339 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: how much you're paying? Are you gonna pay me? But 340 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: there'll be a market out there for him. It is 341 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: going to be a brand new Seattle Seahawks team that 342 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals see in twenty twenty. Yeah, and that's 343 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: why now they have the ninth overall pick, and I 344 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: would think they would take Malik Willis, but now they 345 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 1: don't have anybody on defense, so I would think if 346 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: one of those edge rushers dropped to nine. And this 347 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 1: is one thing that's going to be different in Denver 348 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: than Seattle. Denver has a really good offensive line and 349 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: they got now Melvin Gordon is a free agent, but 350 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: they got Javonte Williams there. They got speed on the outside, 351 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: but their offensive line is night and day, so they'll 352 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: be how to protect him and if he wants to 353 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 1: hold the ball, he may not have to run as much, 354 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: but their offense line is much better. Say a good 355 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: deal for Russell Wilson, Is it a good deal for 356 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks? And I think a lot depends on 357 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: what they do with those draft picks. Two number ones, 358 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: two number two's fifth excuse me, two number ones two 359 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: number two's yeah, a fifth and then plus three players 360 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: Drew Locke, Shelby Harris, and Noah Fan so two starters 361 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: in Seattle gave them before. So yeah, it's Look, it's 362 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: a big haul. Matthew Stafford was acquired under two first 363 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: round draft picks and a third, So Seahawks or that 364 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: Broncos gave up a little bit more for Russell Wilson. 365 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: But I'll say Russell Wilson a better quarterback than Matthew Stafford, 366 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 1: at least at the time you're talking about this past season. 367 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Kind of interesting the owner sided with the GM and 368 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: head coach versus the player. Yeah, so you look at 369 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, who now do have a round draft pick. 370 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: I know General manager Steve com had that little nugget 371 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: or a little quip at the Scott in combine that 372 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals were the only team in the division without 373 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. That is now inaccurate, but 374 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: he also said I could appreciate what those teams have 375 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: done because obviously the results have shown that. So the 376 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: Seahawks coming up in April will have Can they sell 377 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: Drew lock to the fan base? No, I mean I 378 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: don't Geno Smiths there. I mean, well, he's a free agent. Yeah, 379 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: you have Jacobieson on the roster as well. I don't think. Look, 380 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: if you're gonna go in with Drew Locke to give 381 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: him a chance, that means you're drafted a quarterback or 382 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: you're looking to next year's draft class because you don't 383 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: want to spend money on springing someone else you know, 384 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: I think would be a good fit there. Teddy Bridgewater, 385 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: why wasn't he a part of the deal. See a 386 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: free agent? I think I think Teddy Bridgewater is on 387 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: my list of free agent quarterback. He is a free agent. Yeah, 388 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: so that's why he was not. Okay, Well, well do 389 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: you want Teddy Bridgewater and Drew Locke in the same 390 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: in the same room again? Touchdown passes each, So I'm 391 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: fine with it. Yeah, beat us a few years ago. Yeah, 392 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: there's been several quarterbacks that have beaten the Cardinals over 393 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: the year. So the Seahawks do have a first round 394 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: draft pick, number nine overall. They also have two second 395 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: round picks, plus a third and two in the fourth 396 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: though one of those and I haven't seen officially, though 397 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: one of their fourth round picks might have gone to 398 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: Denver as part of this deal. Yeah it was. It 399 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: was Russell Wilson in the four okay, and then a 400 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: fifth round pick and a seventh round pick. So they 401 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: have seven total picks in this upcoming draft to try 402 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: to build around. Now, look Shelby Harris. I've always liked him. 403 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: I've always kind of connected the dots with Vance Joseph 404 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: as the Cardinals. Hey, Shelby Harris, someone on the defensive line, 405 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: bring them aboard. Never happened. No fan is a good 406 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: tied end. So at least two starters they got something. 407 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: Now whether this deal over time I'm in three four 408 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: years can be considered, hey, good for both parties because 409 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: right now the deal is completely one sided. Whenever the 410 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: star player goes, that's the team that won the deal. 411 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: I saw the grade though they gave they gave cl 412 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: A and they gave the Broncos a D. And I'm like, 413 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: how because the Broncos want to win now, yeah, and 414 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: then the next season because Seahawks are That's how analytics 415 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: the Hall and I get that now ones two twos, 416 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: But that's an argument. That's an argument, NJ that have 417 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: in five years? What do the what do the Seahawks 418 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: do with those first round picks? Those second round picks? 419 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: Did they package him to get something else? I mean 420 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: B minus just because I'm how much you gave up 421 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: for a thirty three year old quarterback who's still gonna 422 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: play six or seven more years. Yeah, I honestly I 423 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: looked at him like, is that a D. Let's let's 424 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: hope it is a D for the Seahawks in the 425 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: next several seasons because they gave them an AD. Though, yes, 426 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: based off the Hall, because I'll give them credit, they 427 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: got a lot. Now, Russell Wilson's under contract for the 428 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: next two seasons, this season and the following season, so 429 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: that's why. Yet you know this is again We'll talk 430 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: about the Seahawks all off season. As far as what 431 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: they did the coaching staff, only eight coaches returned the 432 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: same role as last season. So Pete Carroll might have 433 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: hit that button and blew everything up. Now he's doing 434 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 1: it to the roster. Yeah, and San Francisco has had 435 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: a lot of turnover too, but in the Rams. But 436 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: Sean McVay and Kyle shanahan are still calling the plays 437 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: and they still have Well we'll see how Trey Lance 438 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: makes out. I gotta think they're gonna try to bring 439 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: in a veteran. The key is Mitch Rubisky, Marcus Mariota. 440 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: You're starting to see some of these guys that were starters, 441 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: drafted high, trying to get back into the equation. Now. 442 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: I really believe when Brian David was hired and Joe 443 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: Um Joe Sham from the Bills, that Mitchell Trubisky was 444 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: going to go in there and compete in Charles Robinson 445 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: mentioned that yesterday. So I think, as from an ownership standpoint, 446 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: you got to find out what you have in Jones. 447 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: But there's there's there's back chemistry with the head coach 448 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: in the play callers. So I mean, but Marcus Mariota 449 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: be interesting too, But I think the next wave is Trubisky, Mariota, 450 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: Jameis Winston, Garoppolo. Those those are what we're dealing with 451 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: right now. A couple of other notes on the Seahawks. 452 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: We mentioned Bobby Wagner reportedly is going to be released. 453 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett Now I've seen on social media by some 454 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: reporters that he might be available as well. What does 455 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf feel now without Russell Wilson as the quarterback? 456 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: There's no no. But I looked at Tyler Lockett's contract. 457 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: I mean this year it's not as bad, but Escalay, 458 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: he just signed a huge deal. So I mean, I mean, 459 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: you don't replace Tyler Lockett. No, just like Robert Woods, 460 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: even though Beckham did a really nice job. You know, listen, 461 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, he was spoiled all those years with Russell Wilson. 462 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the part of the business side. 463 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean, when he's going to force his way out, 464 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: he's still going to get a new contract. Bottom line, 465 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: this is a great day. This is a great time 466 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals. Anytime your division opponent gets worse. 467 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: Because there is no one that can tell me right 468 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: now that the Seattle Seahawks are better than they were 469 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: twenty four hours earlier. No way three team race, and 470 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: I would even put a big question mark, a gigantic 471 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: question mark, next to the forty nine ers because no 472 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: one still knows what Trey Lance is going to be 473 00:26:54,840 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: able to do. I don't disagree, but they're going all 474 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: into though, based on, you know, golfering those draft picks. 475 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he's not going to take him to 476 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: the Promised Land. But they run the ball well, and 477 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: they got a really good defense. I mean, they got 478 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: one of the best pass rushers in football. Um, you know, 479 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: their secondary doesn't probably get enough credit. Their offensive line. 480 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: I mean you got one of the best left tackles 481 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: in football, and Trent Williams Raheem Moser could go back there. 482 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I think you know. The thing is is 483 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: if he's throwing the ball thirty five or forty times again, 484 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: that's not That's not what they did. They're gonna have 485 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: to go to the Garoppolo route and hope that he 486 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: can just protect the ball. But he's also got to 487 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: protect his body. If he's running fifteen twenty times a game, 488 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: he is not last. I mean, it happened in that 489 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: Cardinal game and he missed games after that. He's going 490 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: to be another RG three yep, ragdown. And it's just 491 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: it's not sustainable for players. You know, regardless of how big, 492 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: how strong you are, your body takes enough of those hits, 493 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna break down, all right. So the next time 494 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear from will be Monday, right, correct, So 495 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: Monday is the opening of free agency, legal tampering, bigger 496 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: legal tampering. And then Wednesday we'll get announcements at two 497 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: o'clock our time, four o'clock. The new league year begins 498 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: at one pm Arizona time, because this weekend daylight time. 499 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: But you know the state of Arizona doesn't do the fallbacks. Okay, 500 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: so one pm now, the Cardinals are gonna have to 501 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: make some roster moves here soon. And that means, you know, 502 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: some guys that are in a contract, they're gonna have 503 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: to make some cuts to obviously create some cap space 504 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: and roster moves and restructuring. Yes, and I'm surprised we 505 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, but you know, usually you know, 506 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: like for an example, Andy Isabella as for a trade 507 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: and they're gonna allow him to go out and find 508 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: a trade. I'm sure that a lot of these guys 509 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: are going Okay, my a might have to take a 510 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: pay cut, b they restructure, or they're just going to 511 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: release me. Because I remember when Bruce Arians and Steve 512 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: Kim when they came on board together their first two moves, 513 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: they released Carrie Rhodes and Adrian Wilson. And that was 514 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: in the month of February. By the way, little nugget here, 515 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki, because I haven't written down to my calendar 516 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: just in the event that I have a run into 517 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: our good friend a dub. But it was twenty thirteen 518 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: on March seventh that Adrian Wilson was released. It was 519 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: March seventh. March seventh, okay, so I thought, so this 520 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: dates and Arizona Cardinals history. March seventh he was officially releasing. 521 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: That was a rough day for those two. They were crying. 522 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: I had him on the radio and he couldn't he 523 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: couldn't hold back. And this is one of the toughest 524 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: guys I've ever met, So okay, so it'd be interesting, 525 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: and I you know, I definitely, you know, I don't 526 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: know if Colton McCoy's in the first wave. I think 527 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: obviously you reach out to the agent. Now there could 528 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: be opportunities out there if he wants to be a starter. 529 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: But I still think, you know, it's a perfect spot 530 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: for him with Kyler Murray, and I think he's been 531 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: a great sponge for him and Max Williams. I don't 532 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: mean you want to make make sure you take care 533 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: of but the priorities should be Connor zach Ertz and 534 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: then I mean to me, that's the two priorities right 535 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: now on offense, you know, defense. We'll see what they 536 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: do with Guardick. You know, I think Canard and Jordan Phillips, 537 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't think the money they're making, we just haven't 538 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: seen the production and in fairness of Canard is really 539 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: because of lack of snaps priorities as far as overall 540 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: free agents, because remember there are twenty one unrestricted free agents. Again, 541 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: we'll see how many are inked before the new league 542 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: year begins. Because the Cardinals are having these discussions. General 543 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: manager Steve Kind mentioned that they are having these discussions 544 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: with respects to Colton McCoy, and I would add Coulton 545 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: McCoy as far as those priorities. Now, when you talk 546 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: about waves and dollars and all that, you know, the 547 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: big names are going to get signed in and get 548 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: the headlines in the initial wave and then over time. 549 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: But I would if I'm the Arizona Cardinals within my 550 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: own roster. As far as those twenty one names, it 551 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: is zach Ertz, James Connor, Colt McCoy, I agree I 552 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: should have included him. And again, I don't know if 553 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: it's going to happen right away, but you'd like to 554 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 1: check that box and does not have to worry about it. 555 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: And again, selfishly, I'm I'm conflicted because i don't know 556 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: what the plan is and I'm resigned to the fact 557 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 1: that Chandler Jones is not going to be on this 558 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: team next season. But that is a huge concern of 559 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: mine what this team does as far as rushing the passer, 560 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: because if you don't have a pass rush now all 561 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you darn well better go out on 562 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: the free agent market and pick up a number one 563 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: and number two cornerback because those guys are gonna be 564 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: have to cover wide receivers, tight ends, running backs if 565 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: you don't get pressure on the QB. Yeah, the only 566 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: thing I can say is they don't play until September. 567 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure they have a plan inpatient. I'm jay no, 568 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: I understand. I mean, I'm wondering with the organization things 569 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: of bringing Hasan Reddick back. He did not get the 570 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: tag and Shack Thompson took a restructured his contract. If 571 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: I feel like they gave Brian Burns a lot of 572 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: money and how much can you invest at that position? 573 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: So I'm intrigued to bring Reddick back if that's the case. 574 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: And even a guy like Calais Campbell thirty five years 575 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: old still playing well, and that might be someone if 576 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: you don't bring a Corey Peters back, one of those 577 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: veterans on the defensive line. And Corey Peters played a 578 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: lot last season, I think more than he or the 579 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: team wanted him to play. But I could see if 580 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: it's not Peters, maybe a Calais Campbell, and I think 581 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens want to retain him though, would be interesting 582 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: to see Carlos Dansby three times, Marcus Golden twice. He 583 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: put a bow on his entire career three sixty. But 584 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, money talks and everything else. Walks Cardinals Covered 585 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: two presented by Hunday Proud, partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 586 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 1: As we continue, not to move on from Russell Wilson. 587 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: That's obviously the number one story across the National Football League. 588 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: But before we kind of get into the new league 589 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: year and free agencies, some leftovers from the scouting combine, 590 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: and I know Kyler Murray received a lot of the 591 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: attention when general manager Steve Kim and head coach Cliff 592 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: Kingsbury addressed the media and well, so, I mean that 593 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: got no problem with any of that as far as 594 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: contract extension. But I found it interesting that's unprompted that 595 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: Kim and answering one of those mini questions about Kyler 596 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: Murray and extending him, brought up some other third year 597 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: players that they would like to extend and specifically mentioned 598 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy and Jalen Thompson. Now, I would also add 599 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: Zach Allen to that mix. And that was Kyler's draft class. 600 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, do we see something 601 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: with a Byron Murphy or a Jalen Thompson. Now it's 602 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: not going to be a lot of money compared to 603 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: a Kyler Murray, but it does speak to what the 604 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: general manager is looking at now only this season, but 605 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: years down the road and having seen enough of Murphy Thompson, 606 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: and and I'm throwing in Zach Allen to say, hey, 607 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: we want you a part of this team moving forward, 608 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: whether you're a starter or a significant player receiving snaps 609 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: on game day. I want to see more from Murphy. 610 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: I think Jayalen Thompson obviously passes. The ites Seas improved 611 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 1: every single year. Murph got off to a great start, 612 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: but he kind of struggled towards the end there. Obviously, 613 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: Zach Allen to me, is the future of like JJ 614 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: Watt will be here. So I had no issue with 615 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: any of those guys, but I want to see more 616 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: from Murphy. He's on his rookie contracts, so they're not 617 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: going anywhere. Murphy played very very well at the start 618 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: of the season and then like seemingly everyone else on 619 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: that roster, offense, tefense, they all took turns. They just 620 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: not dropped off the face of there, but there was 621 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: a there was a serious decline in production and play 622 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: the second half of the season. And when when we 623 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: watched the playoffs, the teams that were successful besides not 624 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: or when in the turnover battle, they're five star players 625 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: played like five star players. The Cardinals did not get 626 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: that down the stretch or in that playoff game. And 627 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: it happened when they went to Carolina with a thirteen 628 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: and three record, all the five star players, Carson turnover 629 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: six times, Larry dropped two first downs, Patrick muffs a punt, 630 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: Philly Brown was running circles around, Rashad Johnson. Calais didn't 631 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: play well in that game. It's just just interesting. And 632 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, I thought Cardinals Stansby was he was on 633 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: with ninety eight seven. We'll leave with Bickley and Marada, 634 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: and he brought up, you know, you just don't plan 635 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: for it. You got to you gotta accept it, eat it. 636 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: But he said, well, after we beat the Packers, we 637 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: were on this high and we go we go to 638 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: New Orleans and we get smoked. Well, I mean, knock 639 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: Warner out of the game. Nobody talks about that. And 640 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: then going to Carolina, I was there, Nobody talks about that, 641 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: and all are nothing. You see, some of those guys 642 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: just like they knew, like Dan Marino, we may never 643 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: get back here again. We were sixty minutes, they were 644 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: sixty minutes away from going to the super Bowl. It happens, 645 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: and it's just unfortunate when some of this stuff happens, 646 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: as far as you're going to have a bad game, 647 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals and the wild card round picked a 648 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: bad time to have a bad day. And that's and 649 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: the Cardinals back in the NFC Championship game picked a 650 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: bad time to have a bad day. And that's what 651 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about to make sure that 652 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: this team doesn't have another one of those bad days postseason. 653 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: Regular season, it's very difficult to be up for an 654 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 1: entire regular season schedule. But going back to Byron Murphy, 655 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: as far as his decline, twelve passes defenced Team Pie, 656 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: but only four over the last nine games. And how 657 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 1: about the interceptions. He finished with four interceptions and most 658 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: of those were in the first first games. Yeah, so's 659 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: he wasn't alone. We're not picking on Byron Murphy. But 660 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: this goes back to again what Kim had to say 661 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: at the scouting combine, Byron Murphy at Jalen Thompson extending 662 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: some of those young players in addition to a Kyler 663 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: and this is and I know Kim would be the 664 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: first two a minute. He has to do a better 665 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: job when it comes to the draft. Even though I 666 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: always think it's a fifty fifty crapshoot. You don't know, 667 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: you don't know what's in the chest between the years, 668 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: but that that would be a nice draft class. I mean, 669 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: because your whole idea is to trying to extend these guys. Listen, 670 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: teams like to retain their own players. They develop them. 671 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: They have more intel on those guys than any other 672 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: team does, and so you know that they're gonna put 673 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: the work in. You know that they're gonna be part 674 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: of the core were moving forward. So that that would 675 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: be nice for just a nice draft class. And obviously 676 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: it all starts with Kyla Murray piggybacking off Kime's comments 677 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: about Byron Murphy. You look at what Kingsbury had to 678 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 1: say when asked about the cornerback position. He mentioned Marco 679 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: Wilson quote got better, didn't nice job? Byron Murphy quote 680 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 1: is a guy we like to move around, play inside, 681 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: play outside, And so you'd like to find a couple 682 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: more pieces that you feel good about going into next year. 683 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals I think are happy and maybe happy, he's even 684 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: too strong a word, content with what they currently have 685 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: as far as cornerbacks signed. But if Murphy if you 686 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 1: like moving him around, then you need to find a 687 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: number one corner that's just gonna stay on the outside 688 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: opposite Marco Wilson, and maybe add two cornerbacks, one in 689 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: free agency or two in free agency, and then also 690 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: draft one or draft two, depending on how the board 691 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: shakes out. Yeah, I don't like the word content. These 692 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: guys are gonna get better. They you know, put the 693 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: work in, get better. I mean, to me, it's work 694 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: out and figure it out and get better, and that's 695 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: what it's all about. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, 696 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: I mean I think Marco Wilson, we thought biber and 697 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: Murphy could be a quarterback one CB one. But I 698 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: do think they're gonna have to draft a corner and 699 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: I would bring Alford back. I mean, I don't know 700 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: kind of market's going to be out there, forum Antonio 701 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: Hamilton's more depth. You've got to get better with the 702 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: front line players than the back of the roster. You 703 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: figure that out in training camp and you know who's 704 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: still available, like they got you know, some Brilin and 705 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But yeah, I mean they're gonna have 706 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: to address that position. But I would ring Alford back 707 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,479 Speaker 1: and then at another corner in the draft. Definitely maybe 708 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: in the first three rounds, because you know, I mean, 709 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: depending what they're doing free and see edge rusher, corner 710 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: and wide receiver. You gotta think wuld be some priorities 711 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: based on what they do in free agency versus draft. 712 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: As much as people focus on the draft and oh 713 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: the Cardinals need X, Y and Z, you always say 714 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: free agency will dictate what you do in the draft 715 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: unless someone drops to you that is just heading shoulders 716 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: above anyone else. At wide receiver, you already had several 717 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: wide receivers, but it's a talent that you know that 718 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 1: projecting you're gonna have for several seasons, and you can't 719 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: let that player slip through your fingers. You have to 720 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: draft him. But again, how this team handles free agency, 721 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm now more curious because that will determine what happens 722 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: that picked number twenty three. Now, when you're pick in 723 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: top ten, that's a little different. But when you have 724 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: a number twenty three, you can not be a little 725 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: bit more aggressive, but you can kind of just see 726 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: how the board shakes out and what the good teams do. 727 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: Let's say I'll give you a hypothetical Claius Campbell. They 728 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: knew his contract was coming up, so they were drafted 729 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: Robert kim Dici so and he was supposed to be 730 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: a top five pick. Obviously he had some issues, you know, 731 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: falling out of a hotel room and everything else, and 732 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: so he drops a twenty nine. So that's when you 733 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: take a flyer on a guy where you know you're 734 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: gonna possibly lose him in free agency. So I mean, 735 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson's under contract one more year. I'm not saying 736 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: you take a guard there. Kelvin Beatson's on the contract 737 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: one more year, So you start to look ahead a 738 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: little bit and fill that hole. But you don't do 739 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: that in free agency. Do that in the draft where 740 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: you develop them, where you have control for the next 741 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: four to five years, five years in the first round, 742 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: four years after that. That you can, to your point 743 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: develop and again sometimes but you can't. You can't have 744 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: that mindset if you're picking in the top ten, because 745 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: those guys have to produce right away immediately. Yeah. No, 746 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it. Like again, free agency, you're trying 747 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: to you're trying to add talent right away and retain 748 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: your own players. But the draft, you can sit there 749 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: and go okay, Like Christen Kirk. They he was going 750 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: to the final Rivers contract, would they do? They drafted 751 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: Rondo Moore and it was a need even when they 752 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: still had a AJ Green. You know, so you look 753 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 1: ahead at a certain positions because you know Christian Kirk. 754 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: I think I can make this claim right now, I don't. 755 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: I don't think Christian Kirk and Chandler Jones are coming 756 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: back here. Christian Kirk is beloved in this market, beloved 757 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: by the media because he's a stand up, professional, always 758 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: available gentlemanager. Steve Kim in Indianapolis at the scouting combine 759 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: asked about Christian Kirk. Quote, He's the guy that comes 760 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 1: into the building every day, does everything right. So really, 761 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: to me, that's a big part of my appreciation for 762 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: what he brings to the table. Then he added, this 763 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: creates some of those mismatches with Nichols and Safety's really 764 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: good feet, really good foot speed end quotes. So I 765 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: think he was given a scouting report. The first part 766 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: of that almost was a thank you and a sendoff, 767 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: and then the second half was, you know, I really 768 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: like him and I would love to see him again. 769 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: In this offense in his natural position in the slot. 770 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: But to your point, that's what Rondel Moore plays, and 771 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: if he is expected to have more of an impact 772 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: within this offense, you can't have Christian Kirk. It goes 773 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: back to our Jordan Hicks conversation. If you want Zavian 774 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: Collins and Isaiah Simmons to play more and have more 775 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: of an impact, you can't have Jordan Hicks on this 776 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: roster because he's going to beat them out. He's gonna 777 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: show the coaching staff that he is better prepared, not 778 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: from a skill stand standpoint, but from a football IQ 779 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: standpoint and knowing where to be and what to do. 780 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more. I mean, it's time for Zavin Collins. 781 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully he's been humbled. I know he works hard, 782 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: but it's now it's about what's between the years. You're 783 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: gonna have to call that defense and he'll get some 784 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: help from other players. But it's a big offseason for 785 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: a lot of guys, including Zavin Collins. One more nuggets 786 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: from the scouting combine A congratulations Buddy Morris, the Cardinals 787 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: strength and conditioning coach who just completed his eighth season 788 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,959 Speaker 1: with the team. Yes, he is the coach that has 789 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: no sleeves, but in Indianapolis he did wear sleeves because 790 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: he was named NFL Strength Coach of the Year. And 791 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: the picture that was tweeted out did have Buddy Morris 792 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: and sleeves. Now they were short sleeves, but they were 793 00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: cut off at the shoulder. So congratulations to coach Morris. 794 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: And did you see what J. J. Watt had to do? 795 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: He tweeted out a video quote yelling Strength Coach of 796 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: the Year is Buddy walked by and then you hear 797 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: Buddy in the background back turned just saying goodbye, goodbye. 798 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's uh, well, those are the those are 799 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: the unsung heroes in that locker room. Yeah, like I said, 800 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: special teams coach, strength coach, they know every single player 801 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: that they're not just look focused on one side of 802 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: the ball. Now. The thing is, when we get a 803 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: chance to talk to Drew Stanton and Kyle Van and 804 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: Bosh and other players, Larry speaks very highly a Buddy Morris. 805 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't get that, you know, you we do, 806 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: we see it. But the fact that he's been awarded 807 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: by his peers, that's awesome. But he's well respected and 808 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: here and guys they'll come out, they'll come here to 809 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: work out. Dennis Gardeck usually was working with the trainer, 810 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,240 Speaker 1: but when you get in the weight room with Buddy, 811 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: he has he has a plan for every single one 812 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: of them, a different plan for every single one of 813 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: those players. Did you Rea call or see on the 814 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: Manning Cast during the regular season when Dwayne Johnson was 815 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: on with Peyton and Eli, he told a great story 816 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: about working out with Buddy Morris on a recruiting visit 817 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: at the University of Pittsburgh because that's where Buddy Morris 818 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: was for a long time. He was the strength coach 819 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh. And yeah, so the rock I'm dying to 820 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: run into Buddy Morris and ask about that because you 821 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 1: have the biggest name in entertainments and maybe the biggest 822 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: name recognizable face in the world right now. And gave 823 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: a shout out to Buddy Morris on the Manning Cast 824 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: before the first tequila shout was the third one. Fair points. Hey, 825 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the Manning Cast. Looking forward 826 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: to next season because you're gonna have on ESPN, maybe 827 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: Joe Buck. Reportedly, Troy Hickman and then on the other channel, 828 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: Peyton and Eli Manning. It's gonna be a fascinating Monday 829 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: night football watch and listen. How about speaking of telling, 830 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: how about Brian Greasy. He's taking the quarterbacks job. Saw 831 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: that his contract ran out at ESPN and now a 832 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: part of Kyle Shanahan. STA's a commitment, I mean because 833 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: he does a lot of charity work. Now obviously traveling 834 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,439 Speaker 1: from Monday night football, we've seen these guys. You gotta 835 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: be out here on a Friday, probably get home late 836 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: Monday night. Um, yeah, that was interesting because um, he's 837 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 1: he's he's got a good, great foundation. I think it's 838 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: for his wife and um, but that that's a commitment. 839 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: But you know, he he knows a position. When you 840 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: listen to him talk, he knows a position. So that 841 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: could be a good sounding board for Trey Lance. I 842 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: think it was a smart move and maybe this is 843 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: a crossroads and a pivot for Greasy as far as 844 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna try my hand at coaching. 845 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: I did the plane, I did the broadcasting. Now I'm 846 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: gonna try my hand at coaching. So and obviously the 847 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: relationship with John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan. Yeah, Brian Greasy, 848 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, one of the nine new coaches that Shanahan 849 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 1: added to his staff. So it's you talked about it 850 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: earlier in the show. A lot of upheaval as far 851 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: as coaching staffs are concerned within the NFC. One. That's 852 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: the beauty of being patient and having stability because you know, 853 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: I you know, the Cardinals didn't lose Van's Joseph. They 854 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you're losing special team's assistant and all 855 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: that other stuff. But they're gonna have the same staff here, 856 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: and you know, obviously they're gonna have to replace Princeton Buckner. 857 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: We'll see if there's any other promotions. But to me 858 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: that again, I give Shanahan and Sean McVay a lot 859 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: of credit because you know they're gonna go as their 860 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: team and their quarterbacks too. But here you've got stability 861 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: and nobody's trying to, you know, take somebody else's job. 862 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: They all kind of know their roles, and I think 863 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 1: it's important going into year four, looking forward to next 864 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: week when all of this speculation can start to material 865 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: into either fact or fiction with respect to teams, free 866 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: agency and what moves might be coming down the road 867 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals, and on that note, we will 868 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two 869 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, 870 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Almahundro for Mike Jarecki, 871 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm preg Riel Lou. We'll talk to you next time 872 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 1: you're on Cardinals Cover two.