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Speaker 2: next Wednesday. By the way, we got you covered there,

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Speaker 2: we get a lot of lists and wolf no one

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Speaker 2: Top ten breakout candidates entering year two? Number three right now,

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior ding Top eight Bandwagons to hop on

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Speaker 2: something you know something about, grab the baton, Ron Wolfley.

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Speaker 2: Number three Arizona Cardinals, Top Bandwagons sixteen day three picks

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Speaker 2: who could compete to start? Number three Cody Simon. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about him a little bit later at length.

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Speaker 2: He met the media today. And then six off season champions. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Cardinals were on the list. They stole my Rex Ryan Award.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that. And then the ten perfect player

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Speaker 2: Number four Will Johnson, Arizona Cardinals and our guest tonight

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Speaker 2: on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert,

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Speaker 2: we are santan Ford, Paul Calvic here, Ron Wolfley there.

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Speaker 1: Polly, did I tell you that Will Johnson was a

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Speaker 1: perfect scheme fit for the Arizona Cardinals? JG and Nick Rolis, Polly,

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Speaker 1: did I tell you that before the draft?

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Speaker 2: You might have gone into deep detail on that? Yes, Wolf,

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Speaker 2: that after the draft. He real quick. And we're gonna

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Speaker 2: ask Will Johnson about this momentarily, but just give us

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Speaker 2: a quick recap. Why why is Will Johnson said? We

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Speaker 2: know he's a great player, he's a lot of skill.

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Speaker 2: Why is he a perfect fit?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a perfect fit because this is a guy

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Speaker 1: Jag of course and Nick rolls they love them a

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Speaker 1: you watch Will Johnson on tape. This is a guy

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Speaker 1: that has the inate ability, bully to play in a

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Speaker 1: some press man. Cover he holds up just fine, there

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Speaker 1: but he really excels in a zone. Room and that

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Speaker 1: ability to examine what these combinations could possibly be based

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Speaker 1: man just like a What Everson walls and the ability

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Speaker 2: That, paul we're gonna ask him How Walter, nolan the

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Speaker 2: first round, pick reached out to him right Ask Jonathan

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Speaker 2: How Will johnson is opted to wear the number Zero agent.

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Speaker 2: Zero to, me it's akin to an ink blot, test,

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Speaker 2: Camp we'll see about. That we do Know Walter nolan

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Speaker 2: is gonna wear number ninety. Seven you gave us a

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Speaker 2: little thumbnail on who Is Will? Johnson, well how About

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Speaker 2: Rob frederickson The Red sea report this? Week who Is Walter?

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Speaker 6: that's SOMETHING i think The cardinals sorely. Needed they sorely

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Speaker 6: offensive line is trying to. Do somebody that just absolutely

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Speaker 6: disrupts the timing of things and looking at, film that's

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Speaker 6: What Walter nolan brings to this.

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Speaker 2: Team, yeah, disruptor that's the word he. Used what else

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Speaker 1: POLLY i think of a guy that is able to

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Speaker 1: it's been a long. Time it's been a. WHILE i

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Speaker 1: think since The Arizona cardinals have had a three. TECHNIQUE

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Speaker 1: to do that was May well actually two and they played,

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Speaker 1: Together Darnell dockett And Kalais. CAMPBELL i Think Walter nolan

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Speaker 2: Guy, YEAH i was asking myself that same. QUESTION i,

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Speaker 2: Mean i'm having flashbacks To Kalis campbell a three sack

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Speaker 2: first half In, seattle absolutely game. Wrecking Russell wilson And

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Speaker 2: Pete carroll to your point about being. Disruptive you know

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Speaker 2: there were some flashes WITH Jj watt And Chandler jones

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Speaker 2: if you go To hazycardinals dot com and you check

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Speaker 2: out some of the offseason videos and the, pictures he

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Speaker 2: is definitely winning the. Offseason d rob Looks, Swoll, Dalvin,

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Speaker 2: tomlinson Kalais Justin, Jones Ball, Nichols Dante, STILL'S. Lj, collier

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Speaker 2: and then once Again Walter. Nolan Here's Adrian. Wilson remember

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Speaker 2: he spent the last decade or so The cardinals legend

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Speaker 2: in front offices breaking down, prospects and here's what he

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Speaker 2: told us On Cardinals cover. Two what he sees From nolan's.

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Speaker 7: TAPE i saw. EXPLOSIVENESS i saw, TWITCH i saw, quickness

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Speaker 7: ability to. PENETRATE i saw a guy that could probably

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Speaker 7: but that rotation is going to consist Of, Joshua Walter,

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Speaker 2: Passard and what's remarkable to me is the coaches in

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Speaker 2: for Ale miss last, Year like he didn't come off the.

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Speaker 2: Field he's definitely a three down defensive lineman and they

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Speaker 2: loved his. Motor Well, Wolf he's not going to get

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Speaker 2: he's going to have energy to spare and burn based

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Speaker 1: HIM, pauli that is that is a great observation by.

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Speaker 1: YOU i maybe you were listening to my show today

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Speaker 1: as a matter of, fact because that's exactly WHAT i

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Speaker 1: a dynamic three. Technique he's got that, speed he's got that,

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Speaker 1: penetrate and be that. Guy he's got the nastiness that you.

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Speaker 1: Want Walter nolan is going to be. GOOD i think

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Speaker 1: because of. That first and, Foremost, secondly when you stop

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Speaker 1: THAT i Think Walter nolan is going to be, very

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Speaker 1: very fresh because of. That and not only, that it's

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Speaker 1: not like offensive coordinators and offensive line coaches are going

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have to prove that because you've Got Delvin

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Speaker 1: nolan or we're. Hosed that's not going to be the.

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Speaker 2: Especially if he can stop the run. Right and, YES

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Speaker 2: is he going to have and affect the quarterback and all,

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Speaker 2: remember according To Pro Football, Focus Walter, nolan the third

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Speaker 2: was the number two rated run stopping defensive lineman in the,

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Speaker 8: And with the forty seventh pick in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 8: FIVE Nfl, draft The Arizona cardinals Select Will johnson Defensive.

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Speaker 5: Michigan as the drafts going, on you, know coaches are

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Speaker 4: Too.

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Speaker 2: MAN espn just rated the selection Of Will johnson as

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Speaker 2: Value how about? That how about your head Coach Jonathan,

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Speaker 2: in a. Minute it is The Big Red rage presented

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Speaker 2: By Santan forward And. Gilbert Will johnson is our. Guest

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Speaker 2: Will johnson is An arizona. Cardinal Will johnson is in THE.

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Speaker 2: Nfl how's all that sound to you?

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Speaker 10: All it sounds.

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Speaker 2: Amazing i'm just happy to be a. Cardinal when you

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Speaker 2: It you've been working for it your entire. Life how

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Speaker 2: gratifying is? That in your draft VIDEO i saw you

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Speaker 10: Time you, know knowing you want to be on a,

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Speaker 10: Moment you can't even can't even really describe. It your

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Speaker 2: Go can't help but notice all the family and. Friends

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Speaker 10: YEAH i got a great support. SYSTEM i, mean they

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Speaker 2: Way all, Right so last week on The Big Red.

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Speaker 9: Seven at pick forty, six you, know we never thought

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Speaker 2: There really never thought that guy was going to be.

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Speaker 9: There so that was one of the ones where you

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Speaker 9: Board that's a clear case of That will was obviously

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Speaker 9: point and so you, know you stayed with your board

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Speaker 2: Prospect you were asked during the conference, call was there

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Speaker 2: how convinced you are that you're going to be one

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Speaker 10: Oh, man It's god's. Play, Man I'm i'm happy to

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Speaker 2: Work how are you going to process, that because, look

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Speaker 2: you KNOW jg And money said. It you were a little,

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Speaker 2: frustrated you said. It Walter nolan reached out to, you,

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Speaker 2: going to use that as. Motivation will you use?

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Speaker 10: That, YEAH i feel like it'll be in the back

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Speaker 10: of my head EVERYTHING i do for the rest of my,

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Speaker 10: career the rest of my. LIFE i always had that

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Speaker 10: conmed me. Out SO i got to go out there

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Speaker 10: Noltan, yeah we met in high. School we were both getting.

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Speaker 10: Recruited you, KNOW i was committed To michigan pretty, early

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Speaker 2: Michigan you had more pick sixes than you had touchdown catches?

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Speaker 2: Allowed is that a type? Out was that? Accurate, na

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Speaker 10: Like just another one of those moments that you can't

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Speaker 10: Describe ALL i remember is singing the, ball catching, it

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Speaker 2: in your college? Career Will johnson as our Guests cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Cornerback you Heard Patrick peterson earlier, THERE i Mean PAT

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Speaker 10: Forget, yeah, Obviously, marvin we had a few. Matchups that's

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Speaker 10: probably my biggest Matchup i've had in. College Romo doomsay

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Speaker 10: faced him in a national. CHAMPIONSHIP i played guys Like Kean,

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Speaker 10: Coleman Jayden. Reid, wow there's a few, more but, yeah.

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Speaker 2: That national title, game true or? False best game you've ever?

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Speaker 2: Played you? Were you were the DEFENSIVE mvp in That

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Speaker 10: Game, YEAH i THINK i played, well BUT i don't

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Speaker 10: weren't the, natty SO i couldn't WIN, mvp but, YEAH

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Speaker 2: Better one word to hear in your skinner reports. Instinct

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Speaker 10: Both, uh and you work at it. TOO i think definitely.

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Speaker 10: Film you, know film allows you to anticipate and kind

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Speaker 10: think it all ties together to, film the practice and

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Speaker 2: Ability Jonathan gannett has mentioned more than once you're a

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Speaker 2: perfect scheme fit for The Arizona cardinals based on what

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Speaker 2: you know of this of this. Defense what makes you

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Speaker 10: AMAZING i, Mean i've been diving into it a little

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Speaker 10: lot of great. Things they're very corner corner FRIENDLY dB,

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Speaker 10: So i'm excited to get to work and get comfortable in.

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Speaker 2: IT jg asks a lot of his. Cornerbacks you're aware of, that,

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Speaker 2: Right he expects him to tackle or do you consider

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Speaker 2: yeah most, definitely, okay and he considers the thinking man's

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Speaker 10: SURE I mean we did a lot of that in college,

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Speaker 10: Career he's been. EVERYTHING i, mean he's taught me. Everything

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Speaker 10: he's been there every step of the, way and you,

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Speaker 10: know he kind of just nurtured me into the PLAYER

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Speaker 2: Process, really where'd you get better in your three years

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Speaker 10: Most definitely mentally just knowledge of the, game knowledge of,

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Speaker 10: Football you, know high school is just you go out

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Speaker 2: Most is that in your repertoire press, Man cardinals don't

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Speaker 2: is that something you're confident?

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Speaker 10: SURE i MEAN i love playing it, all so, pressman offman's.

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Speaker 2: It, Hey Patrick peterson was a master at. That you

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Speaker 10: GAME i think just his, versatility the way he was

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Speaker 10: gonna make plays on the, ball in the, air return,

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Speaker 2: True you don't see many corners traveling, anymore playing both

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Speaker 2: johnson is our. Guy, sorry what do you remember from

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Speaker 10: just a great. Matchup it was a challenging, matchup you,

431
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Speaker 10: know the Most i've been challenged on that. Level So

432
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 10: I'm i'm excited to go be challenged every day. Now

433
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 10: that's gonna that's only gonna get both of us better

434
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Speaker 10: and help us On.

435
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 2: Sundays IF i did a pull of cornerbacks going Against

436
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison, junior what do you think they would? Cite?

437
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 2: What what's the best part of his? Game what's what

438
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: are his strengths to.

439
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 10: Me it's the mix of size. Quickness you, know a

440
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 10: lot of guys that have his sides aren't as agile

441
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 10: and quick as he still. Is SO i would say

442
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 10: the mix of that and obviously the ball skills he.

443
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 10: Has so the mix of all of that coming together

444
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,360
Speaker 10: with his size and skill is it's.

445
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: Different how much better can you get in practice going

446
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 2: against the top flight? Receiver Denzel burke went against five

447
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 2: first round receivers over his career At Ohio.

448
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 10: State, yeah that's, Crazy, yeah for. Sure that.

449
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 2: Is by the, Way detroit is on my birth, certificate

450
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 2: SO i saw a gross point south there for people

451
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Speaker 2: who need to know the end Of Grand, terno you,

452
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Speaker 2: know get off my lawn With Clint eastwood right where

453
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: they're driving Along Lake Shore drive at the very end

454
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Speaker 2: of the Movie Lake Saint, Clair, right it's basically that, area, Right, Okay, Okay,

455
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Speaker 2: well we look forward to. IT i, mean and you'll

456
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Speaker 2: probably connect With Darius, robinson Another, detroiter so he's saw

457
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Speaker 2: him in the Nice, okay all, Right, will welcome To,

458
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Speaker 2: arizona and we look forward to your career as An arizona.

459
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 10: Cardinal thank you me.

460
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: Too all, right there you. Go Will johnson everyone will

461
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 2: continue with A Big Red rage presented by san Tan

462
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 2: ford And gilbert talking about The Arizona cardinals draft class

463
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 2: and the off season as we near the schedule release next.

464
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: Week on The Big Red rage presented by Santan ford And, Gilbert.

465
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: Cody, simon that's a lot and none and walk sacked

466
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 3: again third.

467
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: Time Cody simon.

468
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 11: Had a chance to drop, back decided to stay and

469
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 11: Pick Cody simon, There Ohio State CAPTAIN Blocko. Award impressive,

470
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 11: kid you, know call the defense for, them and you

471
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 11: know we're excited to add.

472
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 3: Him is dragged down immediately By Cody simon and down he.

473
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 2: Goes Cody simon is taking.

474
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 9: Proof throughout the, year he had really strong playoffs and

475
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 9: he certainly has command of the. Team and so when

476
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 9: you have a command of an elite defense like, that

477
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 9: that says something about your character or your knowledge because

478
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 9: they're not just going to look to. Anybody those guys

479
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 9: are all high level players that turn to this guy

480
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 9: to give him.

481
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 7: Directions so that's a big.

482
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 2: Factor, yeah that green, dot can he keep wearing that green?

483
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: Dot just take it off The Ohio state, helmet put

484
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: it on The cardinals. Helmet could number fifty another perfect

485
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 2: fit for a number in my, opinion And Cody simon

486
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 2: come in and be a starter as a, rookie as

487
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: A day three rookie. Wolf the numbers say a year

488
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: ago there were one hundred and fifty Seven day three

489
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: selections and eleven eleven started eight or more. Games in

490
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, three there were Ten day three picks who

491
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 2: started eight or more, games and then the year before

492
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, two there were Sixteen day three picks who

493
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 2: started eight or more games minus kysi Are. White what

494
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: do you think About Cody? Simon is he at least

495
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: in the? Running is he a legitimate? Candidate do you

496
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: think considering all his experience and he's coming off his

497
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: sixteen game season all the way to The national championship

498
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 2: With Ohio state where he called that, defense what do

499
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: you think do you put him in the? Mix here

500
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: Come cardinals.

501
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: Camp, yeah that is a great, Question, Pauli it really.

502
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: Is first of, all they're gonna let him. Compete there's

503
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: no doubt about. That, okay from a physical, standpoint, yes

504
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: he's going to be in the. MIX i just wonder

505
00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: if he can adopt and adapt to the game of

506
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: THE nfl where you've got all of this. Complexity it's

507
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: not just, compound it's, complex is what it. Is And

508
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: i'm just wondering if he can adapt to that quickly

509
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: enough to wear the green dot from week? One could

510
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: you convince, Me paully that at some point in time

511
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna wear the green? Dot he will wear the

512
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: green dot at some point in the. Season, yes you

513
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: could his rookie. Year i'll buy. That, yet at the same,

514
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: time if you're telling me he's coming out of training

515
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: camp in week one wearing the green, dot that really

516
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: is a tall order right.

517
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 2: There, yeah it's really. Interesting in, fact on The Red

518
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: Sea Report drew stan was on, recently and we pose

519
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: that same question to the Former cardinals quarterback On simon's

520
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: ability to become the starting mike.

521
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 12: Linebacker the track record that exists In Ohio state gives

522
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 12: you confidence that he is going to be prepared and

523
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 12: make that. Jump and you look at the defense that

524
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 12: he was. Running it was a complicated. Defense get in

525
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 12: everybody lined. Up that's what the responsibility of the mike linebacker.

526
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 12: Is you set the, front you make the strength. Call

527
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 12: everything is predicated on. That the front has to match the.

528
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 12: Coverage so a guy that's been, there done that is

529
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 12: going to be the green dot, Eventually hopefully it happens

530
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 12: sooner rather than, later because everybody plays off of.

531
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Speaker 2: It he's a four time Academic All Big ten, Selection Cody,

532
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: simon all, right so so not only FOOTBALL. Iq he's

533
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 2: a bright dude period the Other.

534
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: But you, know, poll it's not just about his capacity

535
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: mentally as. Well it's not just about. That it also

536
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: is about, experience, true and and that's the thing that,

537
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: again it doesn't mean he can't do the. Job it

538
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: just means these are things you've got to think about

539
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: when you evaluate whether or not he could come in

540
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: from week one and wear the green.

541
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: Dot and we had the debate and for, example we

542
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: hash it out Like Kyle shanahan and all the eye candy,

543
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: Right sean McVeigh and everything he does and all the

544
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: in trying to reveal and just you, know so that's

545
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: no doubt that's a. Challenge But drew stan didn't make the, Point,

546
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: well if you fortified your defensive front to the point

547
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: where you're only gonna rush for maybe you're playing a

548
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: much more simple. Scheme in year three Under Nick, ross

549
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: maybe the necessity isn't there to get exotic and dial

550
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: it up because you have dudes, now, YEAH jg And Nick.

551
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: ROSS i think they like to keep an offense on their,

552
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: heels so they're not gonna get vanilla and they'll never

553
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: use that. Word but maybe it's not as complex and

554
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: complicated as years.

555
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: Past that's, RIGHT. PAULI i mean one of those areas,

556
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: too it'd be the defensive front that they love to.

557
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: Use they love to use that bare front with two

558
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: edge players as, well where they cover the three interior offensive.

559
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: Linemen maybe they don't have to do that as. Much

560
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: maybe they will do it to try to actually generate

561
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: an awful lot of, Pressure but it really is a

562
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: situation where you've got a map the scheme to the

563
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 1: skulls that you have on the. Field And Cody simon

564
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: is a guy THAT i think is going to be

565
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,239
Speaker 1: able to handle that mental acuity that he needs to

566
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: in order to go out and make the calls. Defensively

567
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: yet at the same, time that's no. Guarantee that's a

568
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: mountain to.

569
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: Climb So Cody simon a lot Like Will, johnson really

570
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 2: decorated in The Big. Ten he was thirteen all big

571
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: ten Led Ohio state with one hundred and twelve. Tackles

572
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: he was third among ALL d one linebackers in terms

573
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: of his run defense. Grades he was a team. Captain

574
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: he was The National Title game DEFENSIVE, mvp just Like Will,

575
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: johnson our guest in the last. Episode here the last

576
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: segment of The Big Red, rage presented by Santan ford And.

577
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: Gilbert he's been described as a late, bloomer but, man

578
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: he played some of his best ball in the playoffs

579
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: in college football and then his head, Coach Ryan, day

580
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: in a, tweet called him, tough, accountable the highest of,

581
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: character and he was one of the big leaders on

582
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: that team as a team. Captain and here's What Cody

583
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: simon had to say earlier today when he was asked

584
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: what does being a leader mean to?

585
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 8: HIM i put leadership in three different. Things it's being, seen,

586
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 8: heard and. Felt seeing you do the right thing all the.

587
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 8: Time you're the person that they can look to to

588
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 8: do the right. Thing you're heard you you're the vocal,

589
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 8: leader you can motivate and. Inspire and then felt is the,

590
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 8: emotion you, know the passion that you can play with

591
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 8: that others can look to and you know LIKE i can.

592
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 8: Feel it's not, tangible but it's something out. There so

593
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 8: that stuff is stuck with me all through college and

594
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 8: helped me be a better.

595
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: Leader, seen, heard and. Felt that's, It.

596
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: Paul that is so.

597
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: Good it's well.

598
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: Said it really is right, there because once, again you

599
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: KNOW i say this all the, TIME a leader has

600
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: got to do before he can. Say he's got to

601
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: do before he can. Say and that's what he's talking.

602
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: About you, know you've got to be, seen of, course

603
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: and you have to. Hear in other, words once you

604
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: are and you're doing, now you can actually start. Talking

605
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: and also fell. Too it's all three. Phases. MAN i

606
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: love that From Cody simon right, there and it's so.

607
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: Accurate so spot, on you got to do first and then,

608
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: say and your best leaders always do, first and then, say.

609
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: Okay, Look i'm not going to get over my skis.

610
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: Here he's not going to walk in as a round

611
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: four rookie and get voted to team. Captain but can?

612
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: Lead can he call a? Defense, Yeah, canny can he

613
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: call a defense as a? Rookie is that? Realistic BECAUSE

614
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: i look at this dep shot right, now, wolf And

615
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: i'm not seeing an automatic surefire replacement For Kayzer, white

616
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: AND i just tend to think he's going to be

617
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: given every chance to win the.

618
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: Job, NO i think you're right about that. Ball but,

619
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: again there's a big difference in wearing the green dot

620
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: and knowing it intellectually going out onto a football field

621
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: week one and calling the, defense and then going out

622
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: out in totally understanding the. Defense and that is a big.

623
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: Responsibility it really, Is. Paul i've said this to you

624
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: in the, past but the most difficult POSITION i think

625
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: for any rookie to come in and play is the

626
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: mike linebacker. Position. Wow this is something that we have

627
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: talked about many times in the. Past it's just like

628
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: being a full back in an. Offense, Paul you've got

629
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: to know. Everything, No, Paul you've got to know everything

630
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: the running game and the past protection. Scheme as a full,

631
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: back you had to know it. All just, Saying, paul

632
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: the two most difficult positions other than quarterback to come

633
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: in and play full back And mike. Linebacker, okay just

634
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: so you, Know and it's because of all the mental

635
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: things that you have to know and understand about this

636
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: game as.

637
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: Well and, LOOK i think they're going to get an,

638
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: idea at least, initially is he swimming in rookie mini,

639
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: camp then they're going to get then they get into,

640
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: OTAs then they get into the mandatory Minim but if

641
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: he's keeping, up and they'll be able to know where

642
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: is he in the playbook and they can do things

643
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: in practice with some crazy looks on, offense how do you?

644
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: Adjust are you making the? Checks can you make the?

645
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: Calls you? Know because that's something that the guy's raved

646
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: about the Moment Kaizer white showed up two years Ago

647
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: Buddha baker And. Company like, man he gets the calls

648
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: out so. Quick he, reads he, recognizes he spits it.

649
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: Out he gives us that extra half second to get in.

650
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: Position that kind of stuff can be. Critical so if

651
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: if he can handle, that THEN i think he'll be

652
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: given every opportunity AND i think they'll be able to

653
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: discern at least through mandatory mini. Camp all, right is

654
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: he flailing and failing and swimming? Mentally or and then

655
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: if soul, okay maybe you go and you sign a

656
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: guy off the street with. Experience here's my other question for,

657
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: You wolf, cornerback Because Denzel, burke his, teammate comes in

658
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: with fifty one career starts In ohio state. History we

659
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: just talked To Will johnson on this edition to The

660
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: Big Red. Rage think of that, Room think Of Max,

661
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: Melton round two, High round two pick a year, ago

662
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: made real strides In december And, January Garrett williamszier Starting.

663
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: Nickel we're not debating That Starling thomas has started nearly

664
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: two dozen games in two. Years and Then Sean murphy,

665
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: bunting the, veteran highly Paid how do you handicap the

666
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: cornerback race right?

667
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: Now, yeah you, know it's very similar to the interior

668
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: defensive line and actually the front seven period for The Arizona.

669
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals the, improvement the competition that is going to, Exist

670
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: paully once training camp, opens and we'll really OTAs Once OTA's.

671
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: Opens but you, know until the pads go, on you're

672
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: really not going to be able to make that, difference

673
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: that difference between one young guy and another young. Guy

674
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: but the competition will unfold right before you in those two,

675
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: rooms specifically the defensive line room and the corner back.

676
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: Room oh my, GOODNESS i can't even believe how jam

677
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: packed that room. Is that was looked at going into last.

678
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: Season as a. Weakness now we know it wasn't because

679
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: Of Garrett. Williams we know it wasn't because Of Max

680
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: melton and because Of Star. Thomas those three guys in,

681
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: particular they stepped up and they solidified that secondary by

682
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: playing so well at the corner. Position and now you're

683
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: gonna add more competition to that. Room talking about A

684
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: Will Johnson denzel Burke, man is this is gonna be

685
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: an area of competition in training.

686
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: Camp if The cardinals come out in the first month

687
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: and they are flying on. DEFENSE i think it'll be

688
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: a direct byproduct Of cardinals, camp which is gonna be really.

689
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: COMPETITIVE i could see that just carrying over directly huge

690
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: ball into the regular. Season Ab for the first to

691
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: see The cardinals twenty twenty five schedule when it gets Released,

692
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: Wednesday may, fourteenth go To easycardinals dot com slash schedule

693
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: for all the opponents more. Info all, right we'll come.

694
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: Back Marvin Arrison. Junior what do the coaches want to?

695
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: See that's? Next on the Big Red.

696
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 13: Rage throws end zone in his caught, Touchdown pope takes

697
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 13: the staff play fake brawling.

698
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: Left Has pope lopped To.

699
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 13: Tom touchdown wide Open pope in the end.

700
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: Zone pope is wide open fires and that has caught

701
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: and that's a. Touchdown. Pope his second.

702
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 7: One, Today pope wide open down the middle of the.

703
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: Field pope stretching and diving and.

704
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 9: Scoring pope now with four touchdowns on the, ear kiss the.

705
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: Ring that's good. Stuff right there are Jim amahundro dipping

706
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: into his vast, archives Passion wolf calling multiple touchdown catches

707
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: From Leonard. POPE i looked it.

708
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 4: Up.

709
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: Wolf he played three years for The. Cardinals just a

710
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: refresher two thousand and, six seven and. Eight, yes he

711
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: went to The Super. Bowl eleven career touchdown catches five

712
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: and two thousand and seven alone on twenty three. Receptions

713
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good percentage right, there the red zone.

714
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: Threat that was six foot eight tight End Leonard pope

715
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: for The cardinals once upon a. Time, Yeah and of

716
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 2: course that's in honor Of Pope, leo the First American.

717
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: Pope and you, know it's interesting SOMEWHERE i have an

718
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: Old Chicago cardinals. PENNANT i need to like take the

719
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: the s off That chicago, cardinal you, know sixty nine

720
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: year Old chicago, native the First american, Pope Pope Leo

721
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: white smoke earlier today and so that is the big,

722
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: news and in honor of, that we bust out the

723
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: flashback To Leonard, Pope paul Kelvc ron wolfleet is the it.

724
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: Is it is the Big Red rage presented By Santan

725
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: ford In gilbert Will johnson was our guest. Earlier guess

726
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: what he's gonna match up Against Marvin Harrison junior again

727
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: this time in practice man after two games against each,

728
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: Other Ohio state Against. Michigan that is called good on good,

729
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: iron sharpening iron and. Wolf we've Seen Marvin Harrison junior

730
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: his name on some of these breakout players. Lists, yeah

731
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: in your, opinion what has to happen For Marvin Harrison

732
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: junior to take that next step in year?

733
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: Two, Paul he's just got to Get he's just got

734
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: to get more. Comfortable that's what he's got to. DO i, mean,

735
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: honestly right, NOW i look at this and with this

736
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: kid's work ethic what it is and the fact that

737
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: he had eight hundred and eighty five receiving yards last

738
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: year and eight. Touchdowns once, AGAIN i keep coming back to.

739
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: That do we know that he could be? Better? YES

740
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: i think our expectations going into his rookie season was

741
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: just so off the. Charts it was so. High And

742
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: i'm looking at myself on that. One even THOUGH i

743
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: typically look at a rookie with a skeptical, EYE i

744
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: was looking At Marvin Harrison junior like he was going

745
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: to come in from day one and he was going

746
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: to light the. Lamp, now, listen that didn't. Happen, yet

747
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: he had a very very good. Year when we talk

748
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: about a breakout, season you, know eight touchdowns is. Good

749
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: that's a good year for a lot of wide. Receivers

750
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns and eight hundred and eighty five. Yards so

751
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: if we're talking about a true breakout season this year

752
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: For Marvin Harrison, junior where does that number? Start? Paul

753
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: is that eleven hundred yards? Receiving is that what you're

754
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: gonna say is? Breakout is it twelve? Hundred is? It twelve?

755
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: Touchdowns thirteen? TOUCHDOWNS i, mean, yeah this, kid the groundwork is.

756
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: There it. Is but, man if he grows from year

757
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: one to year, two the way that Multiple cardinal rookies

758
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: have that have been drafted UNDER monti assin for if he, grows,

759
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: man it's gonna be.

760
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: Good you know, what and we've talked about, This we've

761
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 2: talked about the contested. CATCH i think the other WORD

762
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: i threw out there is, consistency which is one of

763
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: the biggest challenges for any. Rookie and for, EXAMPLE nfl

764
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 2: Dot com put out their ten Notable year two players

765
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: or a pois for a breakout, Campaign Marvin Arrison junior number,

766
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 2: three and they cited and this is a good reminder

767
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: that there were seven games where he is held to

768
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: fewer than forty yards. Receiving so if you can get

769
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: that consistency and then with, that the numbers will come

770
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: obviously and will compile over a seventeen game.

771
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: Season, Paulie i've said this in the, Past, MAN i,

772
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: have BUT i will continue to say. It if in,

773
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: Fact Kyler murray And Marvin Harrison junior they improve their

774
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: chemistry the way THAT i think they're going to improve

775
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: their chemistry in terms of being able to throw the

776
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: ball down the field And Marvin Harrison junior going up

777
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: and making plays on the, ball high pointing the ball

778
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: and catching it contested, catches if that improves the way

779
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: THAT i think that it should improve in year, Two,

780
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: paul there couldn't be a more powerful impact to The

781
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: Arizona cardinals winning games because that will set off a

782
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: chain reaction that they can throw the ball down the

783
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: Field paully and all of a sudden attack that. Secondary

784
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: it's going to open up everything. Underneath of, course For

785
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: trey McBride even that much. More and it's going to

786
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: Help James connor as, well because they're not going to

787
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: be able to just jam up the box and single

788
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: up somebody on the outside On Marvin Harrison. Junior they're

789
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: not going to be able to do. It so all

790
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: of it works. Together and if they're able to do, That,

791
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: paul that's going to be the biggest improvement The cardinals

792
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: could have going into next.

793
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: Season, well when you said, CHEMISTRY i just threw my

794
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 2: fist into the. Air, dang because that was the fourth

795
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 2: seed THAT i was waiting. For, remember at the end

796
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 2: of last, season we came up with a four, seeds

797
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: sort of like buying a, diamond, RIGHT.

798
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: I, Don't, PAUL i don't.

799
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: Remember contested consistency chemistry With. Kyler kyler cited that himself

800
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: late last. Season, confidence, okay and then with confidence we

801
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: now go To Drew Terrell Wide receivers coach passing game

802
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: coordinator this late last. Season this is a really insightful,

803
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: interview really well, said and he was asked what he

804
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: wants to see From Marvin Harrison junior this.

805
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 4: OFFSEASON i think what's gonna come naturally is He i'm

806
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 4: gonna be, like all, Right i'm in THE. Nfl this

807
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: is What i've worked my whole life, for and this

808
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: is what it. Is when you're working your way up

809
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: to this.

810
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: Level it's always like.

811
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 4: ALMOST i don't want to say you're putting too much

812
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 4: weight into, it but it's kind of like, this like

813
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 4: there's an expectation of what it's supposed to be. Like

814
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 4: SO i HOPE i see him in this offseason exhale and,

815
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 4: like all, Right I'm Marvin Harrison. Junior i'm a bad

816
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 4: mother and they gotta feel. Me next Time i'm out.

817
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: There i'm dictating to. THEM i don't have to adjust.

818
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: Anybody i'm, Stinking Marvin Harrison. Junior i'm setting the tone.

819
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: Here i'm dictating things out in this. Field you Heard

820
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: Will johnson earlier in this episode Of The Big Red

821
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: rage where HE'S i asked him about. Matchups the first

822
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: name he said in his college Career Marvin Harrison, junior

823
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: and he's gone against a lot of first round receivers

824
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 2: in his three years At, Michigan so so Can Marvin Harrison.

825
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: Junior see this is my. Opinion now have that, confidence,

826
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: yes to be that dog and be that guy and

827
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: then take it to the next.

828
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: LEVEL, Pauli, no you're right on this. Thing you really.

829
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: Are think about. It i've experienced myself bully going into

830
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: your rookie. YEAR i don't care how confident you.

831
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 6: ARE i don't.

832
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't care how much acclaim they have piled on.

833
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: YOU i really don't care what your ability or talent level.

834
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: Is when you go into that rookie, year you're saying

835
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: to yourself when it's really dark and it's about two

836
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning and it's you and you're just

837
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: staring at the ceiling at, night you think to, Yourself,

838
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: MAN i THINK i can play in THE. NFL i

839
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: THINK i can do. This year, two after you get

840
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: year one, in you're, SAYING i KNOW i can do.

841
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: THIS i KNOW i. Belong and last, year when you

842
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: look At Marvin Harrison junior and what he accomplished in

843
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: the production Of Marvin Harrison, junior to, me he proved

844
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: to himself that he could play in THE. Nfl now

845
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: it's about taking that next. Step where is that? CEILING

846
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: i don't, know BUT i Think Marvin Harrison junior is

847
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: going to get closer to that ceiling in year.

848
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: Two here's the other. Thing last year he spent a

849
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: season going Against Sauce, Gardner Devin witherspoon, twice, who by the,

850
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: way is a two Time All pro former fifth pick

851
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: two years ago By Seattle. Right he went Against Jalen

852
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: ramsey actually torched him quite a bit in the second

853
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: half of that game At. Miami Jalen, johnson who's highly

854
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: paid The bears. CORNER i, mean he went against a

855
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: lot of, dudes premiere. Corners and what Did Frank sanders

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Speaker 2: Big Red, Rage he, said you know what my rookie,

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Speaker 2: year guess WHAT i Had Rob moore's wide receiver. One

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Speaker 2: Larry fitzgerald even had An Kwon bolden his first year

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Speaker 2: a single Up Marvin Arrison junior all of last season

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Speaker 2: were The rams In week two and what did he?

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Speaker 2: Do he had a full game in the first quarter

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Speaker 2: till they made. Adjustments.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know what's so great about this, Too, paully

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Speaker 1: is the emergence Of trey. McBride, yes the emergence Of

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Speaker 1: trey McBride as maybe the best tight end in The

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Speaker 1: national Fur Ball league right. Now the reason WHY i

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Speaker 1: say that is because a defensive coordinator is going to

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Speaker 1: go into that game and he's going to, say, boy

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Speaker 1: there are two things we've got to. Do we have

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Speaker 1: to Stop James. Connor we have to stop The Arizona

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Speaker 1: cardinals from running the. Ball and we got to Cover trey.

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Speaker 1: McBride we got to cover eighty. Five we have to do.

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Speaker 1: That going into a, GAME i think that is going

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Speaker 1: to be where the attention is really focused on from.

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Speaker 1: Defenses and because of, THAT i think, Again Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 1: go out and have to prove. It so we'll see

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Speaker 1: how he.

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Speaker 2: Responds so do you consider wide receiver to a need

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Speaker 2: or a want at this?

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Speaker 1: Point, YEAH PAULI i consider it a. Want and the

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Speaker 1: reason WHY i say that is because Of trey McBride

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Speaker 1: number number, One number two is BECAUSE i Believe Marvin

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Speaker 1: Harrison junior is going to get. Better And i'm talking

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Speaker 1: about down the. Field i'm talking about running by, somebody

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Speaker 1: not using his speed so, much but running by somebody

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Speaker 1: where it's a fifty to fifty throw up ball and

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Speaker 1: he goes up and he makes it more of an eighty.

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Speaker 1: Twenty that's What i'm expecting to throw the ball down

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Speaker 1: the field and be effective doing. It SO i would

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Speaker 1: have to, say, YEAH i think that's more of a.

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Speaker 1: Want Paul.

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Speaker 2: Yeah and Then Zay, jones what's he like in year?

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Speaker 2: Two you know it was interrupted obviously last year the

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Speaker 2: did they figure something else out? There but once, again

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Speaker 2: The cardinals were top five in explosive run. Plays last.

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Speaker 2: Year they were in the bottom third of the league

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Speaker 2: in explosive pass. Plays if they can add the explosive

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Speaker 2: pass plays to this, offense that to me is what

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Speaker 2: unlocks everything because they have almost every other, aspect yes

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Speaker 2: of a potent. Offense, hey get ready for the twenty

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