1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Commi's a myth and bullshit a radio 2 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: phonic novella Local Radio hosted by Malama Locomotives. Welcome back 3 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: to season five of local radio podcast Rosas. Listen at 4 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 1: your own risk. Local Radio is a radio phonic novella, 5 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: which is just a very extra way of saying a podcast. 6 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm fiosa and I'm mala. Thank you once again for 7 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: tuning into a brand new cap one fifteen. Thanks for 8 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: joining us, Thank you for joining us. Last time on 9 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Look at Radio, we discussed the term chugi and we 10 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: determined that we are in fact chug e a f 11 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: and really into it because it's too late to change. Fine, 12 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: it's fine. I'll keep the stickers on my water bottle. 13 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: I'll like, I'll do that, I'll have the things, I'll 14 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: do the things. It's a part of getting older. Yeah, 15 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: we embrace getting older because we grew up on sex 16 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: in the city and we've been training for this. We've 17 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: been aspiring as like our moms are like hello, beautiful 18 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: and so like why not and va life very stylish, 19 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: so you know what lots to look forward to. We've 20 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: been like meaning about becoming wine. Thea's for many years now, 21 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: it's embedded in our psyche. We accept it's true. I'm 22 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: like at the point like, Okay, am I going to 23 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: have kids eventually? Am I just going to be that 24 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: really fun thea that's like buying all the kids things. 25 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: You know, We'll see, I guess we'll see. We were 26 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: just talking about this. It's true. It's true. After a 27 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: photo shoot. Yes, we had a really fun photo shoot 28 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: recently and we're excited to share who that was in 29 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: collaboration with. And um, it was also for Latino Heritage Months, 30 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: So we're going to talk a little bit more about 31 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: that about LATICX Heritage Month in general. Um, a little 32 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 1: bit in a little bit for this episode today. Oh yes, 33 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: there's so much to say, so much to share, so 34 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: much to analyze. We actually have a super fun fake 35 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: Tinos Fake Tinos this time part two to follow up 36 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: to our Fake Tinaz. Because we can't just hold women accountable, 37 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: we have to hold white men accountable for the things 38 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: that they do as well. So that's what this episode 39 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: is all about. Yes, and so before we get into 40 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: the main gardner of today's episodes, you want to remind 41 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: folks to follow us across all social media platforms were 42 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, Facebook, all of it. So if 43 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: you have not followed us yet, you know what to do. 44 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: Hit the follow button, subscribe and also leave a review 45 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: on Apple podcast. It really helps new listeners find us 46 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: and keep up with our podcast content. Or m and 47 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and 48 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and 49 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: and um um um um um um um m m 50 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: m from of it and bill ship mum. We are 51 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: going to get into the main content, the main gardnet 52 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: of today's episode and the A is Fake Dinas Part 53 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: two because one of our early episodes of season five 54 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: beginning of the year was actually Fake Dinas and we 55 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: talked about the Triflin white people that pretend to be Latina, 56 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: have no direct connection to any Latin X Latin American 57 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 1: community ancestry, and literally take opportunities away from actual Latin 58 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: X people. Yes, I mean we discussed what I forget 59 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: their names. Jess La Bomballera was among them, chief among them. 60 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: There were others. What were there was like an attorney. 61 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: We don't necessarily want to give them more shine, but 62 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: we do want you to go listen to that episode 63 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: if you haven't already, because it's a good one, and 64 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: consider that like a preface to this one. You know, 65 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: this is a follow up. Yes, And something that we 66 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: noticed when we recorded that episode that it was actually 67 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: heavily based on women, on white women that were masquerading 68 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: as latina's And we were like, okay, but there has 69 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: there has to be some men, right that are also 70 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: doing this. And a couple of months later, I there 71 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: was this like again, I don't want to give it 72 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: more more hyper fan the flames, but there was this 73 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: new podcast, a proving podcast that it shall remained nameless, 74 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: and they had a white man on their podcast, um 75 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: and he would go by or one of his like 76 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: personas on Instagram was a gringo Masana. So you already know, um, 77 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: why that is so problematic. Um. And and so there 78 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: was like a really big community call in because folks 79 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: were really upset that this podcast would even have, would 80 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: even entertain a guest like that on their show. Um. 81 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: He started as like a literal, literal missionary, like a 82 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: Mormon missionary in Peru and ended up just staying and 83 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: is now like I don't know if he's a citizen, 84 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: but he he has he can legally quote legally work 85 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: in the country, like he's done that paperwork, and so 86 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: he's like very much like integrated into proving life in Peru. 87 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: And so this led me, this led me onto UM, 88 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: this very like dark rabbit hole of other men, other 89 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: white men that also do this UM, specifically in Latin America, 90 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: masquerade UM and take on certain cultures, identities, accents even 91 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: And so that's what we're gonna be talking about today. 92 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: It is a lot, and it's this whole little world 93 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: and this whole subculture I had no idea existed, but 94 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: it's like a whole network. There's like a lot of them. Yeah, 95 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: there's a lot of them. And so but like let's 96 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: talk about why we're not naming them. We're not going 97 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: to name them. Let's talk about why we're not naming 98 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: him Mala. So Okay, we have been on the internet 99 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: for a long time now, many years, many years, and 100 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: in the digital like creative Latin X space, we've seen 101 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: our fair share of drags and call outs and just 102 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: general um focusing attention on like individual people for whatever 103 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: reason in mass right, and what we know to be 104 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: true now not only is people with who have experienced 105 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: social media at many different levels now just as account holders, 106 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: sometimes participating in drags, sometimes considering ourselves like social justice 107 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: oriented or just content creators or just viewers, but now 108 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: also being people who like, this is our job, like 109 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: social media, audio content, podcasting, this is how we make 110 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: our money, like this is how like these are our 111 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: careers because the internet space is a place where brands 112 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: can be built and businesses can be built and money 113 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: can be made. And so many people um don't understand 114 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: that online all engagement is good engagement, all of it, 115 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: even if you are ripping someone to shreds, even if 116 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: it's one of those like Twitter mobs that is just 117 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: ruthlessly going after someone. When you are looking at your 118 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: analytics and your impressions, you're seeing the millions of impressions 119 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: that you're getting and there's no breakdown of whether they're 120 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: good or bad, or callouts or support, because it doesn't 121 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: fucking matter on the numbers and the impression side of things. 122 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: And that's how you grow a person's account by giving 123 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: them impressions, by giving them engagement, And it literally doesn't 124 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: translate what the energy or the reason behind the engagement is. 125 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: The numbers are what translate. So when you give a 126 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: count any kind of attention, whether it's alleged callouts or accountability, 127 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: or whether it's praise, they function the exact same way 128 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: by giving that account more growth, more reach, more impressions. 129 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: Now this is not to say that we shouldn't hold 130 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: people accountable for things, or that we shouldn't um call 131 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: people out for bad behavior or abusive behavior. But the 132 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: other side of the coin, which is the material like 133 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: substance side of the coin that comes down to money 134 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: and to power. The other side of the coin is 135 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: that the more attention that you give somebody, the more 136 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: powerful that you make them. And we can give so 137 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: many examples of how directing your anger on to an 138 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: online platform does not actually result in that person being canceled, 139 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: or them losing money, or them being d platformed, you 140 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean. There are other ways of act 141 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: divisum besides feeding someone's digital platform, which ultimately feeds their 142 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: wallet and their name recognition. So we don't like naming 143 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: the accounts or the that we find problematic because we 144 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: don't want to send traffic to that account. We don't 145 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: want to help grow the account, we don't want to 146 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: feed the account If someone is being sucked up online, 147 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna, well, what are the other ways that we 148 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: can address this and hold them accountable. Starving somebody of 149 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: attention online is the worst thing you can do to somebody. 150 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: Not Giving someone engagement is the worst thing you can 151 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 1: do to a content creator. Ignoring a content creator is 152 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: the worst thing you can do to them in actuality, right, 153 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: because if I stay camped out in these fake Tinos comments, 154 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: I am giving them money and engagement. Literally, I'm handing 155 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: it to them, and they know that, and they don't care. 156 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: That's why they persist, That's why they keep going. That's 157 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: why R Kelly has credits on Drake's most recent album, 158 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: Certified lover Boy as he's as he's sitting through a trial. Yeah, 159 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: I think like we're both at the point where like 160 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: what are the call outs even for? Like do they ever, um, 161 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: do they ever actually lead to any material change? I 162 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: think oftentimes they do and oftentimes they don't. And so 163 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: I think like our approach right now is like a 164 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: case by case thing, Like like Mala said, We're not 165 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: saying don't hold anyone accountable, but I think this this 166 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: account in particular of these four because that this is 167 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: like what we found was that there's these four green 168 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: ghost quote and America Latina US sending all of y'all 169 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: to to go look at their account and their content 170 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: is not gonna have them move from Latino America and 171 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: back to their little white lives in the US, right, Like, 172 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: it's not this is their lifestyle, this is what they do, 173 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: This is how they obviously must make their money. And 174 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: so this for us, it's not worth naming them. However, 175 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: it is worth talking about because there this is definitely 176 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: um a thing that white people are doing everywhere, masquerading 177 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: as identities that are not their own and profiting right 178 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: and profit. And think about how even on TikTok there 179 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: is an entire type of content where it's just it's 180 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: people addressing the callouts in their comments section, and those 181 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: videos are racking up millions of views, you know, like 182 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: like the US I said, even even us sending our 183 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: listeners just to watch their stories, don't you know? We 184 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: send our story analytics to companies so that they can 185 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: determine how much they're gonna pay us. So if we 186 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: send a thousand of our followers and they have a 187 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: thousand more views on their stories that day. They're literally 188 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: going to report those numbers somewhere and make more money 189 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: and keep putting out that content because it's resulting in 190 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: more views for them. Yeah yeah, And I think, like 191 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: I'm not very involved in like travel Instagram, but like 192 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: that's its own community where they have like their own 193 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: stuff going on with like dive with brands and partnerships 194 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: and deals, and I know that that's a thing. There's 195 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: like really big travel accounts. Some of them are really problematic, 196 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: right Um. I saw one a couple of weeks ago 197 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: being called out by the Salvadoran community. Um. And you know, 198 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: so I think different communities within the Latino community, right, 199 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: um has their their own challenge or battle or call 200 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: call outs and call ins with different folks that are 201 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: profiting making content. Especially when you think that we're still 202 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: in a pandemic. All of the travel content that's created, 203 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: you know, raises lots of flags when the access to 204 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: vaccines in said countries in Latin America are not the 205 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: same as the US. Right, So there's so much at 206 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: play here, and um, I did want to share that 207 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: because you can find it if you want to. We're 208 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: not going to name it, but I will say they 209 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: have a nine followers, so they don't need our views. 210 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: That's more than that's more than what we have. Um 211 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: and the four countries that they quote represent are Pataway, Mexico, Bedu, 212 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: and Argentina. And the idea of their channel is to 213 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: create content that is adventurous, fun and educational, with the 214 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: goal to break stereotypes that unite America. Why Latino culture, 215 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: why Hispanic culture? What would four gringos be doing interested 216 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: in that culture? Why are we going out speaking the language, 217 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: eating their food, dancing, hanging out with the locals. These 218 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: are questions that maybe I asked myself from the beginning. 219 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: It was kind of weird to me. I know, maybe 220 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: these guys as well. These are things that we didn't 221 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: get until we actually broke through the surface and actually 222 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: immersed ourselves into the culture and then we saw the light. 223 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, do it too. Well, if you're 224 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: really curious, go look. You're not gonna like it, you're 225 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: not gonna get But we're not telling you go look. Okay, 226 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: we're not and we're also not telling you not to go. Look. 227 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: We're not telling you anything. We're just saying yeah, yeah, yeah, 228 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: I will say though that because the folks in the 229 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: Provian diaspora in the US were super fierce, um and 230 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: very intentional with their call ins that this this white 231 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: man did remove the gringo maspawano from his like bio 232 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: and I think his brand identity doesn't mean he's not 233 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: still creating the same content, but he did remove that phrase. 234 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: So I mean if in some ways the call in 235 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: did work. Yeah, And I think that it's like it's 236 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: so tricky and hit or miss because we've seen plenty 237 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: of examples where you know, bullying works and if if 238 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: you give something enough enough negative press, it just might change. 239 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: But we've also seen the flip side where um, you 240 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: give something a lot of negative energy and it fuels 241 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: it and you can never there's no way of knowing, 242 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: there's no way of knowing which direction it's going to go. 243 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: So you know, it's all about how you want to 244 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: spend your time and your energy and your who you 245 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: want to give your views on your streams, you know, 246 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: with no guarantee of the outcome, right right right? I think, Um, 247 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: this also raises the question or for me, when I 248 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: was like looking at these different accounts, I will say 249 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: something that I think is super cringe e And actually 250 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: I think it feels the stereotype is that all of 251 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: these these four men in particular, and they all of 252 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: them do it um, is that they all have like 253 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: adopted the accent from that the particular country that they 254 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: live in, like really heavily, to the point where they 255 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: sound like someone that was born and raised there, you know, 256 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: and grew up speaking language in that particular region of 257 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: whichever country. And I'm like, this is this is fake, 258 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: Like you're literally putting an accent on and this is 259 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: very performative and a caricature actually, so there's nothing authentic 260 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: about it um where it's like I think about myself 261 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't I don't have a like 262 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: coo Pruvian accent when I speak Spanish. I don't even 263 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: have a Mexican accent. I have a fucking I'm you know, 264 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: live in the US, you know what I mean? When 265 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: you do live when you do live places like it 266 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. Yeah, And I think it's also 267 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: like people can tell, people can tell like this is 268 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: off the way that you're sounding right now, Where did 269 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: all that come from? Yes? Oh my god, this is 270 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: not related but I think because um, folks that are 271 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: non Caribbean like too, are very like, um, very obsessed 272 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: with Caribbean culture because it's very much a part of 273 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: pop culture. I do know, I do know this Mexicana 274 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: that is from the f A. Okay, she said chi 275 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: langa when she particular way of speaking, yes, yes, the 276 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: very specific way of speaking. You know what chi langa 277 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: when you when you hear one right when she drinks, 278 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: because they've been around her a couple of times, and 279 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: she drinks. When she drinks, she puts on a Caribbean accent, 280 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, hold wait, hold on. I was 281 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: like anyone else, like is anyone hearing this? You know, 282 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: where does it come from? Oh my god? And so 283 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm like what, like why are people so phony? Like 284 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: what is it? For? What purpose does it serve? And 285 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: it's also okay because is she like doing this around 286 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: like a bunch of other non Caribbean for to what 287 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: like to what to what ends? Yes? And no one wait, 288 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: no one say anything. Well my partner was like, what 289 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: the fun is going? M But she's not like she's 290 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: not like a friend, like she's just someone that's around 291 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: once in a while. Um, and this is obviously pre pandemic, 292 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: and so I was like, um, I can't say anything 293 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: that someone needs to tell her something, right, like honey, Yeah, 294 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean I think like for all of these people, um, 295 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: it's just very much exotifies said culture. Um, and that's 296 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: part of what makes it so cringe e and problematic 297 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: and like for me, it's kind of been like a 298 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: train wreck where I'm like I don't want to look away, 299 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: but I also don't want to give these people views. 300 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: But I'm also like this is a thing, like this 301 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: is its own community on here, and there's also like 302 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: folks that give it obviously they have a big following, 303 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: give it lots of praise where it's like, oh, this 304 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: is so cool, like you're sharing part of my culture 305 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: for my country. This is awesome, Like thank you so much. 306 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: And I'm like hold on, like support people that are 307 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: actually for the country and are creating ship online that 308 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: are creating actual content and because there they exist and 309 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: they're out there. Yeah, it's a thing, and I feel 310 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: like this is um really common to like someone does 311 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: something of another culture and it's kind of um, what's 312 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: the word, it's like shocking, Like oh wow, Like where 313 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: did Where did this white person learn how to do this? 314 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: Like that's wild. You know, there's this really funny kind 315 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: of shocked factor when it's like people can people do 316 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: all kinds of things like right, It's like when a 317 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: white person speaks in another language, it's like oh amazing, wow, right, 318 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, wow, so much knowledge, like how did 319 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: you learn that? But you know, we have folks that 320 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: are immigrants and speak there, you know, whichever language they speak, 321 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, learn to speak English, right, this 322 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: is this is America hashtag, you know. And so yes, 323 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: we know, we know that the praise is rooted in 324 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: whiteness and white supremacy and some people, certain people read white, 325 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: are allowed to do things that others are not. M hmmm, 326 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: Like these guys are not being read as like immigrants 327 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: and they're not talked about or treated that way. They're 328 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: like they're just like travelers or whatever. You know, they're 329 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: just global citizens, worldly, just worldly. Yes, yes, yes, that's 330 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: its own thing within the travel space community, right, but 331 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: not everyone has access to travel. It's very complicated. It's 332 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: very complicated, and it's funny too because I feel like 333 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: we've probably talked about this before on the podcast. But 334 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of people who did 335 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: not grow up in their home countries, like me, I 336 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: didn't grow up visiting Mexico, like it wasn't a thing 337 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: for us. We went to Pijuana a few times as kids, 338 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: but you know, all of our family is here, and 339 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: so there was a lot of this kind of rhetoric 340 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: around me about like, oh my god, Mexico so dangerous, 341 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: never go, never go. And this coming from people who 342 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: were born and raised in Mexico, you know, or or 343 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: lived there for a very long time, and it was 344 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: always very no, don't go, it's so dangerous. And then 345 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: later in life, I had a friend who I love, 346 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: amazing woman, but she's a white girl from South Pasadena, 347 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, with blonde hair and blue eyes, who just 348 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: at the time did not speak Spanish. And one day 349 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm quitting my job and I'm moving to Guatemala. 350 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: And so she lived in Mexico City for several months 351 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: by herself, and then she lived in Guatemala for several 352 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: months by herself, and I went to visit her in 353 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: both places, and I came home and I told my family, like, 354 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: you guys understand that you all have like like basically 355 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: just kind of warned me against the terrors of Latin America. 356 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: And here goes this white girl without a care in 357 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: the world, without a second thought, and she goes and 358 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: lives in the f and just and kills it and 359 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: has a great time and is going to bars by herself. 360 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: And we all know that, you know, these says can 361 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: be very dangerous for people like who actually live there, 362 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: and for you know, women in Latin America, things are 363 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: very dangerous. But at the same time, it's like who's 364 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: living in fear and then who like I don't know, 365 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: and who's not kind of a thing of these places 366 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: that we call home or have some kind of connection to. 367 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: So I just think it's like a very bizarre set 368 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: up all the way around. Totally. Yeah, it's definitely that 369 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: privilege of like being able to move in certain move 370 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: anywhere that you want and like have some type of 371 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: um certainty that things are going to work out for you. 372 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: And there's obviously a privilege in that, whereas you know, 373 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: there's like I think for for us as women, like 374 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: our parents are like why are you going to go 375 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: travel by yourself? You know, when we're like we've done 376 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: everything we can to protect you, and here you are 377 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: just going on this trip alone um to Latin America, 378 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: which would like you said, there's like fear, there's real fears, right, 379 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: lots of places are unsafe, but so is the US. 380 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: Our backyards are unsafe, our homes can be unsafe depending 381 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: on our living situation, and so it really doesn't you know, 382 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: not that it doesn't make sense, I understand, but yeah, 383 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm like you guys, there's some real ship happening here. 384 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: Like you guys, we live in the city of Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah, 385 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: it's sucking dangerous here, you guys, Like l A is 386 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: not a joke, Like we live in fear, not to 387 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: be dramatic, but like we like when we're outside of 388 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: our houses like where we live in fear. Yeah, I 389 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: mean we all have safety plans. Like you know, safety 390 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: plans don't just exist when you travel. You need a 391 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: safety plan when you're going to get gas, when you're 392 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: gonna go skating, when you're gonna go running, when you 393 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: meet meet up with someone with a friend, a date, whomever. 394 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: Safety plans are needed, very much, so, very much so. 395 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: And you know why, as I've gotten older, I have 396 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: met more in more heads who they do go and 397 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: like have moved to the d R, like women our 398 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: age have moved to the DR, moved to their home countries, 399 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: have moved to Puerto Rico, have gone, and they spend 400 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, stretches of the year in Mexico City. And 401 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: it's it's a thing right now, like for Latina's our age, 402 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: especially in the creative space, to like move back to 403 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: whatever Latin American country our families are from. I think 404 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: it's really cool. I've been thinking about, like how do 405 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: I get myself to Mexico City for a few months 406 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: because I see other women doing it and I'm trying 407 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: to do it because that is cool and fun and cute. Yeah, definitely, 408 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: I think they're Um, you're right. 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I'm telling you, we do it all. Yes, 477 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: we do, we do it all. Let's talk about Hispanic 478 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: Heritage Month Latin Let's do it. Let's do it. So 479 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: our favorite least favorite time of the year is approaching. 480 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: Right September is a fish really Latin X or Hispanic 481 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 1: Heritage Month, depending some folks use latine X. We obviously 482 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: use Latin X, but the bracket or the umbrella term 483 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: is Hispanic Heritage Month. Um. And that's where lots of 484 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: companies come out of the woodworks and remember that they 485 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: have a Latin X audience to engage with, and they 486 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: see all the value in us for a month, for 487 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: one month, And I just want to say that, like 488 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: every year we kind of scratch our heads because we 489 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: hear all this stuff about companies and brands reaching out 490 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: to people, and we see the projects in the collapse, 491 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: and we're like, how come nobody's coming to us. Honestly, 492 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: we don't get we don't get as much of the 493 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: Hispanic Heritage Month like work and fairtare. We don't know why, 494 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: we don't. We don't know why, and we we you 495 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: know what, this is the conversation. Let's have this conversation 496 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: because sometimes I'm like, I don't know, like where we stand, 497 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: Like we're not necessarily in like the feminist space space, 498 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: but we are obviously feminist and we create feminist content. 499 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: We you know, women is content. Um, we're queer, but 500 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: we're not necessarily in the queer podcast space either. Um, 501 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: we're laughin us, but we don't get as many ops 502 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: as other folks during Hispanic Latino Heritage Month. We don't. 503 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: What is it? Is it the fem phobia? Yeah? I 504 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: think we're just too hot. I think that everyone rejects us. 505 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: Everyone rejects us. We belong to nowhere basically. But that's 506 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: why we had to create our own lane. We really 507 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: had to, because when we tell you, guys, like we 508 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: really do, we try and play nice with everybody. We're nice, 509 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: We're very nice. We're very very nice. But a lot 510 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: of folks just do not have it for us. They 511 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: just don't. So we have stopped, honestly, we have stopped 512 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: like knocking on doors that are just not trying to 513 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: open for us, that are like dead bolted from the 514 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: inside with like seven different locks, you know what I mean, 515 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: and a chain and also a door propped under the 516 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: door knob. So we're like, you know what, We're just 517 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: going to build our own little house over here, and 518 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be Yes, it's going to be really cute, 519 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: and it already is really cute. It's like literally what 520 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: Salange says about building your own table, like instead of 521 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: asking for see your you build your own table. And 522 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: so we're building our own house because we've got to 523 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: open our own doors. Um and just for my you know, 524 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: a reminder to any folks that are affiliated with brands 525 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: or if you're working with brands this month in particular, 526 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: don't do any work for free, especially during Hispanic Heritage Month, 527 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: especially during Latino Heritage Month. Do not You should never 528 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: do free work in any like in general all year round, 529 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: but at this time of the year, all the brands 530 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: like to come out and reach out to their Latin 531 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: X creators whomever. Um, and yeah, never do work for free. 532 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: Get your coin and ask people if they're getting paid. 533 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: If you think you're being cheated money, cheated, exploited, robbed, 534 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: lie to lie to it's true. And there's a difference 535 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: right like between if you're an indie project and working 536 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: with under other indie projects and you guys pulling your 537 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: resources and working together to create something like we've done 538 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: that all along, right and and paying people like what 539 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: we can when we have budgets and working with people 540 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: with full transparency, and like this is what we have 541 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: to work with, this is what we don't have to 542 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: work with, you know, And that's that's a really important 543 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: way to build a small business. You get to a 544 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: level like we are now at a level after several 545 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: years where we're not talking about community work all the 546 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: time or necessarily or working with friends or working with 547 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: other indie projects. We're talking about major corporations, multinationals, conglomerates 548 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: like these are corporations. They have money, and they will 549 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: always try and convince you that they don't have money, 550 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: but that you should still do work for them, and 551 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: it's not true. They all have money. They have budgets 552 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: for every single thing. They are not suffering, their wallets 553 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: are not hurting. They have money. So that's who we're 554 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: talking about, because this is when those guys reach out 555 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: is during this Hispanic Heritage Month to try and get 556 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: free labor from you when they can pay you. They know, 557 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: they know they can pay you, they choose not to 558 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: pay you, yes, and then they lie about having no money. 559 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: So you know, and also like transparency, right, like we 560 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: still do things for free or like community for community 561 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: things for example, and Ahead is like creating a little 562 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: like outdoor medica though, and she was like, do you 563 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: all want to like come and have a table and 564 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: this and that, because she's trying to like really build 565 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: up what she's doing in her particular community. And we're like, yeah, 566 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: hell yeah, let's do it. Like we haven't done like 567 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: an outdoor thing, like in person event with like community 568 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: members and folks that we can invite, and so let's 569 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: do it, right. We don't have any expectation that we're 570 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: going to get paid. We're doing it because we want 571 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: to help this mo had like build her business. The corporations, 572 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: the corporations, Um, they don't need free work. They just 573 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,479 Speaker 1: really don't. Wait, hold on, there's an ice cream truck. 574 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: Let's leave it. Yeah, this is gonna park outside my house. 575 00:35:46,360 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: Literally still there, still there, Okay, she's pulling off right. 576 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: So what are we saying? Um, oh, yeah, that the 577 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: corporations have money and when they say they don't, they 578 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: are lying. Yes, always, they're always. So yeah, just a 579 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: tip from us to you, dear listener. Yeah, and speaking 580 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: of things that we do for free, every episode we 581 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: need for free. I just want to remind everybody, and 582 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: now we have two weekly shows, so we're doing double 583 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: the work for free and justin f y I because 584 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: it's important that people hear this, especially those with an 585 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: interest in starting a podcast. If you have a weekly show, 586 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: that means you have weekly expenses. Every episode costs us money. 587 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: But as you notice, we don't really have We don't 588 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: necessarily have ads on every episode. We don't necessarily have 589 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: gigs every week, so it costs money to put the 590 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: shows together and get them out to you, but the 591 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: shows don't always bring in cash. Podcasting is very expensive 592 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: and the gigs that we do get go into making 593 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: the podcast. So we do not get paid to make 594 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: these shows and to host these shows. Because even when 595 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: we do get paid, that money is already accounted for. 596 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: We have team members who have already submitted their invoices 597 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: and we're just waiting for the check to clear. Because 598 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 1: if it's a two thousand dollar check is already waiting, 599 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean to be to be paid out. 600 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: So just transparency. When you do donate, that's what you're 601 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: donating to so that our team can get paid. Yes, yes, 602 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: we have a growing team and that's really exciting. But 603 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: it also means more money. And so yeah, whenever you donate, 604 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: it always goes to one of our team members literally 605 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: literally literally um and so yeah, thank you all for 606 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: rocking with us and supporting us. And let us know 607 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: what you think about these fake deanals that we vaguely 608 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: talked about. I'm sure there's more. Don't tag them. If 609 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: there's more, but d m s and let us know 610 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: about the deals that you've come across. Do not tag them. 611 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: We do not want to bring them to our account. No, 612 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: And you know what it's like, even taking a screenshot 613 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: is better than sending a profile to someone, truly, because 614 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: even sending a profile or sending a post to somebody 615 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: that all of that gets counted in analytics and impressions 616 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: and reach. Like literally, you guys must understand that even 617 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: hovering on someone's page for too long is contributing to 618 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: their analytics every move that you make on the internet. 619 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: So this is why true, we're trying to be a 620 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: little more kind of um sophisticated, I guess with how 621 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: we approach our online engagement. Yeah, I mean, and you 622 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: know the flip side, spend more time on our page, 623 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: spend tens of time on our page. Please send our 624 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: episodes to people. Tag people in the episode notes, like 625 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: our the episode comments on the Instagram, Subscribe to our newsletter. 626 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: Tweet at us when you're listening, let us know what 627 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: you're doing. All the engagement helps, as you know, for 628 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: creators that you love, creators that you do not like 629 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 1: and you cannot stand their content, literally, do not engage 630 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: with them for ignore them, ignore them, um because you know, 631 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: even like you know, calling back to our fake Dina's episode, 632 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: something that Malla shared with me. So we talked about 633 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: Latinas that or women that are are Latinas what are 634 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: doing brown face? And one of them was not the 635 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: beluso right, And Mama was sharing with me that she 636 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: was at an event and every there was nothing song 637 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: that came out and everybody was singing it. Oh honey, 638 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: she lit the place up. It was dt l A pride, 639 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: my dear, And so you know, look, I'm not necessarily 640 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: a fan. I think the whole thing is weird. I 641 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: think it's offensive. I agree with all the critiques. She 642 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: was being drag drag, drag, drag drag. She was also 643 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: then after the drags. This is post drags in a 644 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: post drag World Grammy nominated. Her songs are all over 645 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: the radio, all over everywhere. I go to detail a 646 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: Pride and they played two of her songs in a 647 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: row and she lit the place up. Everybody got up, 648 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: started dancing. I'm a nasty girl, fantastic. They all do 649 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: the fucking words. And I Textedosa, I'm like, remember remember 650 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: how like canceled and all this. I'm at Pride and 651 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: the girls are living for nothing. It didn't make a difference. 652 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: It made her bigger, It made her more of a star. 653 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: We were we were also at another event or no, 654 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: we were at a we were at a restaurant, we 655 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: were at a drag show. Mama and I and this 656 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: song like came on and it like slapped. I was like, 657 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: this is a great song. And afterwards, Mala goes, did 658 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: you know that that was Igeazalea? And I was like what. 659 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, it sounds good, right, And I 660 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: was like, god, damn it. I had no idea. Granted 661 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm not streaming it, but still I was like, this 662 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: is a good song. Hey, who is this right? And 663 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: I was like, m it's iggy, but we had already 664 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 1: jammed out to it. Yeah. So sometimes, you know, I 665 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: think we need that perspective because the call outs and 666 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: the drags can feel very real. Um, and then sometimes 667 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: they don't actually translate to real life. Like think about 668 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: last during the pandemic. Do you all remember the bean 669 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: dad story. This man, this journalist m tweeted about his 670 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: daughter being hungry. Maybe she was nine years old, and 671 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 1: he gave her literally a can of beans and watched 672 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 1: her struggle for a long time and she couldn't do it, 673 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: and she was upset and frustrated, and the poor girl 674 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: didn't eat. He got dragged, canceled, canceled his Twitter, deactivated 675 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: his Twitter. Um. Now he has a podcast with The 676 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: New York Times called Canceled with another canceled quote canceled realist. 677 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: So this is why we tell you cancel culture is 678 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: not always real. It doesn't actually translate to real things, 679 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, Or the real thing is a benefit 680 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: to the person that you find problematic. So you tweet 681 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: about being dad for seventy two hours straight. Congratulations, you 682 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: got him a New York Times podcast. I hope that's 683 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: exactly what you wanted. Meanwhile, we can't get a fucking 684 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: network to sign us, to get a podcast, and we 685 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: try so hard to put our quality work. But being 686 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: Dad gets to podcasts with The New York Times. It's fine. 687 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: We're not upset about it at all. We're very upset, 688 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: very listener, We're very upset. So look, you guys, if 689 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: you claim to be about what you're about, and you 690 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: claim to be about representation or women or whatever the 691 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: funk it is that you're about, and that your morals 692 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 1: stand on or whatever, go camp out in our fucking mentions. 693 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: Gop out on our page or on the page and 694 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: the project of somebody that you like, allegedly, someone that 695 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: you are an alleged fan of. Go show them some 696 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: outward love, show them a little bit of attention. Go 697 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: leave us a review on Apple podcasts. You know, it 698 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: really goes a very long way. So just food for 699 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: thought about how you spend your time and your energy 700 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: when you're online, because we know you bitches are online 701 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: all fucking gay, We know you are. We already know 702 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: your bitches are good to your phones. So just think 703 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: about how you're spending your time and why. Yeah, and 704 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 1: at this point, like how do you want to spend 705 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: your time and energy? You know, do you want to 706 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: spend it and feeling negative or do you want to 707 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: spend it like fueling and boosting the creators that you like. Um, 708 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: So there's that. There's that. There's also we're tired. You 709 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: that we're so tired. Yeah, you know, we're like literally 710 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: September any one. You know what that means? Season five 711 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: is almost over? And you know what that means. We 712 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: have to plan for season six and have a whole 713 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: new visual. So we're gonna we're thinking about it, we're 714 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: anticipating it. More more work, which we love. We love 715 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: what we do. We love what we do. But the 716 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: thing about being an overachiever is that each year you 717 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: have to top yourself. And it's like, literally we're our 718 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: own competition. We have to keep up with last season's theme, 719 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: visual content, all of it. And sometimes I'm like, you 720 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: know what, last season, I like the content more of 721 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: that season, So what does that tell me we need 722 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: to do more of that next season? And so on 723 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 1: and so forth. You learn We we learned from ourselves. 724 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: Everyone should learn from theirselves, and what they're doing is 725 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: don't focus on what other people are doing. Focus on 726 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: what you're doing and what you can do better. As 727 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: Beyonce would say, how did you do that? And we 728 00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: are recording on the day of Beyonce's forty out. Shout 729 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 1: out Queen, Shout out Queen. Let's take a moment and 730 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: talk about Beyonce. I mean, I think Beyonce deserves her 731 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: own episode. She does. We need to have a Beyonce episode. 732 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: But it is her birthday, so let's talk about it. 733 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. Okay. I will tell you. 734 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: I need to tell you. I need to tell you. 735 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: Tell me. I had a whole wall of Destiny's Child 736 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:32,720 Speaker 1: memorabilia growing up. I was a huge Destiny's Child fan. Huge. 737 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: My brother took me to see Destiny's Child in concert 738 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: for Destiny Fulfilled. I had like, I don't know how 739 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: this fucking worked, and I'm like sometimes I think about it, 740 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, this can't be real. I went to the 741 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: Verizon Ladies Tour, which was none other than Alicia Keys, 742 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: Missy Elliott, and Beyonce, and it was at the Anaheim 743 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: Convention Center. My brother, my brother is like basically like 744 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 1: my second dad. So my brother, my brother is fifteen 745 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: years older than me, so he would take me to 746 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: all the concerts and it was a lot of fun. 747 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: And he was He's like the six two man, and 748 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: there I was like walking next to him, and he 749 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: would like buy me all the things, and I was 750 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: super cute, and so she would he would take me 751 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: to these concerts. And so the fact that I saw 752 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 1: these three women on one lineup, I like, how the 753 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: fund did that happen? Um? And so I love Fionce. 754 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 1: I am definitely part of the beehive. I'm not as 755 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 1: intense of a member. I think that the Beyonce critique 756 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: can stand as long as it's valid. Don't come at 757 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: me and say Beyonce is not talented, she can't sing. 758 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: She you know, she clearly has a vision. It's not true. 759 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: You're you're a hater. You know you want you want 760 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 1: to talk about blood diamonds. Let's talk about the blood diamonds. Yes, 761 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 1: you want to tell me that she's not innovative and 762 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 1: the greatest um talent of our time. Liar, You're wrong, 763 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:59,720 Speaker 1: your liar, You're a liar. We look, we just Beyonce 764 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: raised us, Destiny's child raised us. But Beyonce specifically has 765 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,359 Speaker 1: been with us consistently since the beginning. Like Beyonce has 766 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: always been there, she's never left and just there's just 767 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: so much to say. I mean to see her journey 768 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: and like how she's evolved as a singer, as an artist, 769 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: it's just breathtaking. And I think that she is really 770 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: truly one of our greatest inspirations. I mean, we talk 771 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: about her, we love her. I've been to her shows. 772 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: I've been to the Formation tour. Um. I don't remember 773 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: which other one I went to, but I went to 774 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: another one I forgot what it was called, but um 775 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: with Steph. I went with Steph and my sister UM 776 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: and on the Run tour, on the Run to Yes. 777 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: So you know, like, I just like appreciate her so 778 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: much for being the like go getter and the perfectionists 779 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: and the visionary that she is. Yes. And I love 780 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: how she can just go in and out of genres 781 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: and she can do it all. She can do everything, 782 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: she does it all. I also love that she like 783 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: literally collaborates with like up and comers, Like remember when 784 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: she had wars On Shire, like one of the greatest 785 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,439 Speaker 1: poets are of our generation in my opinion, she had 786 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: her on Lemonade right. Um. She collaborated with Mega Stallion 787 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: last year, right like and not that Mega Sellian was 788 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: an up and comer, but it's like she sees the 789 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: talent and it's like she blesses whomever she works with, 790 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: right and they like Skyrocket And I'm like, that's what 791 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: we need to be doing in our own way and 792 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: whatever capacity that is, like have the Beyonce effect. And 793 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: we talked about that, like we like to think that, 794 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: like we have our guests on when we do because 795 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: like they're going to blow up right now and and 796 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 1: and we're going to have them on and so literally 797 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: we Beyonce is definitely an inspiration for us and what 798 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 1: we do respond like not responding to hate all the 799 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: time or negativity the funk what you say in her 800 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: comments or ds, she doesn't, she ain't knows it. She 801 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: posts another beautiful outfit somewhere on a boat like she's fine. 802 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 1: It's true, it's true. I think Beyonce also understands like 803 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: a lot of what we were talking about earlier. You know, 804 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: a comment is a comment at the end of it all, 805 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: and she's probably not really reading them either. But she 806 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 1: is on Twitter. I know Beyonce is on Twitter. I 807 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: know she has her little sock account. She's watching Twitter 808 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: what they say. Yeah, because she's always on the on 809 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: the pulse, like she knows what's going on and she 810 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: lets us know. She like will let us know in 811 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: different ways that she's listening and she's on the pulse. 812 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: It's very interesting. Yeah. I love Beyonce, great and one 813 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: of our greatest inspirations. Um. Yeah, future Beyonce episode in 814 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: depth for sure, in depth. We have to do it. 815 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: There's a couple of divas that we want to really 816 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: cover in the future. Maybe that can be something we 817 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: focus on for season six. Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, And I mean, 818 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of it all, I'm never 819 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: here for critique that is like only centering like women entertainers. 820 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,879 Speaker 1: Like can you please direct that energy towards some lawmakers? 821 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: Please towards some policymakers. Do you even know the names 822 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: of the policymakers that you should be directing that anger too, 823 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: that you should be directing that energy to, you know, 824 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: like how about a corporation responsible for an oil spill? 825 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like when when all of your analysis 826 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: and all of your accountability and all of your social 827 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: justice energy is like only going towards women creatives, I'm like, 828 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: there's something off here, like there's something imbalanced here that's 829 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 1: not making sense to me, yes, or like with women's celebrities, definitely. 830 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: I was telling Mala that I caught myself being a 831 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:18,800 Speaker 1: hater and so okay. So last week, um, somebody shared 832 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: Gummy laos Um song called Don't Go. I think it's 833 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 1: called Don't Go, but anyway, I saw like a preview 834 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: of the video on her Instagram. I don't follow what 835 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: someone shared it, and it's giving me like major like 836 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: Latina vibes, Like she's like chapping into like what's marketable 837 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 1: right now, at least that's how I see it. And 838 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: so I shared it on my Instagram and I was like, 839 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,879 Speaker 1: literally just said, this is giving me Latina vibes, right, 840 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, I'm giving this more views 841 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,320 Speaker 1: and I'm talking ship and I'm and I'm being negative 842 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: and I don't need to be negative. I can just 843 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,320 Speaker 1: share what we're doing literally, and so we need to 844 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: be promoting our own episode. And so I I took 845 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: it down and I stand by my critique. And Evette 846 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: Montoya wrote a great um article about why Gummy La 847 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: Gummy Lack needs to do better, will link that somewhere 848 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 1: and she wrote it her Pop Sugar, and it was 849 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: a really great example of like a holding like white 850 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: latin X or light skin latin X folks accountable for 851 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: their like racism and anti blackness. It's it's a really 852 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: great and so when I saw that, when I read 853 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 1: that article and then I saw the video the next day, 854 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, gummy La, you need 855 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: to shut the funk up. Is how I felt like, 856 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,240 Speaker 1: stop stop you know, playing like your your your Latina 857 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: identity for for profit because you're putting it on and 858 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: you're taking it off and all that stuff. But again 859 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: I was giving it views and giving an energy I 860 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: didn't need to give. And so I deleted it and 861 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: that was that. But I do I did it. You know, 862 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 1: we do it sometimes, um and we don't. We don't 863 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: have to do it. We don't have to do it. 864 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: It's a conscious choice that you. I'm not going to 865 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: engage in this type of posting right now. I have 866 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,879 Speaker 1: the the tweet written in my head maybe already maybe 867 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: already almost posted it to my story. Like it happens. 868 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 1: We do it too, because it's a really good way 869 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: to get engagement ourselves ship talking. This is the other 870 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: side of the coin. Again, we have been around long 871 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 1: enough to know that there are plenty of quote social 872 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: justice community, marginalized voices centering accounts that have gained their 873 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: followerships and have gained their clout and their name recognition 874 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: and their platform by engaging in these types of drags 875 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: and critiques, because not only does the person in like 876 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: leading the drag get a bunch of engagement on their post, 877 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 1: they also tend to get an increase in followers and 878 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: they become sort of known for like overholding celebs accountable. Well, 879 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, you're saying things that, yeah, maybe true, but 880 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: you are making sure that your specific individual platform is 881 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: benefiting from the traffic, you know, and that's not necessarily 882 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 1: a bad thing, but it's just what's happening there. Let's 883 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 1: let's be real, Like, if your brand is dependent on 884 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:26,919 Speaker 1: you getting millions of retweets off of specifically critiquing female celebrities, 885 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 1: like just understand that that's your income and that's how 886 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 1: you are creating. Your brand is by your a critic, 887 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 1: and that's that's its own genre, you know, that's its 888 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: own lane. But it is self serving serving, it's self 889 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: serving in many ways. It's self serving in many ways. Look, 890 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 1: my Selena the series critique, I'm not going to sit 891 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: here and be like that was for the greater good, Honey. 892 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to. I'm trying to. We we create content. 893 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 1: We're content creators, were podcasters, We talk, we give critiques. 894 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: We are part of this class of people that benefits 895 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: from the online engagement. That's why we're talking about it, 896 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,320 Speaker 1: because we benefit from it. If you retweet our stuff, 897 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: if you listen and share our stuff, that's good for us. 898 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 1: You know. It is UM you know, and we do 899 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: things with a comedic lean or with a dramatic lean 900 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 1: or with a little bit of hyperbole because this is 901 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: art that we're doing. You know, this is content creation 902 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: that we're doing. But we're not going to sit here 903 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:35,760 Speaker 1: and be like we are righting wrongs and holding people 904 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: accountable for wrongdoing. So make sure you subscribe to our patreons. 905 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 1: You know what I mean what we're doing. Yeah, I 906 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 1: think like we have written and recorded to some really 907 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 1: great UM counter narratives over the years since season one, 908 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: and I think we've we've talked about holding our family 909 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,239 Speaker 1: members accountable for whether that be sexism, rape culture, racism, 910 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,720 Speaker 1: lots of different things, because we still do firmly believe 911 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: like these conversations need to happen at the homes, right 912 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: and with our families, that's where we're going to have 913 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: the most impact. Um. But when it comes when it 914 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: comes to like calling out celebrities, when it comes to 915 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: only criticizing critiquing women, like, that's also not what we're about. Um. 916 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: And so I think that we're kind of trying to 917 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: figure out what that means for us moving forward, Like 918 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 1: how do we create um, you know, really intentional content, um, 919 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: and you know, not be we we don't want to 920 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: be dependent on like call out. That's not what we do. 921 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: We've never been like a call We've never been a 922 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: call out podcast. Uh. We can call in with kindness 923 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: and and and intention when we need to, but we 924 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,439 Speaker 1: really stay away from the call outs as much as possible. Yeah. 925 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: And it's also like we get so tired of like 926 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: the same discourse about representation and community and we are 927 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 1: not elected officials. We are not librarians, were not public 928 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: school teachers, you know what I mean, Like, we're not 929 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: public servants. We're just not and um, we don't claim 930 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 1: to like represent anybody where we are podcasters and we're 931 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: making lots of different types of content that we hope 932 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: speaks to a lot of different people. Most of our 933 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: listeners and followers tend to self identify as Latina's. Absolutely, 934 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: that's another fact, right, But we don't sit here and 935 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 1: pretend to like be the spokespeople for all that's not 936 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 1: Um maybe that's that's not our thing. Maybe that's how 937 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 1: we don't get booked for Caritage Month because that's what 938 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: they want. We have to be. I am the voice 939 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: of my people, and I am an act to this, 940 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 1: and I am the voice for the voiceless on marijuana. 941 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: In between bond rips and in between podcast recording, I 942 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: am leading my people out of the desert. So I 943 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 1: subscribed to my Patreon and give me a commercial, someone, 944 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 1: ari I, anyone? I'm done with you. Um, all right, 945 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 1: well this has been a very full episode. We gave 946 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 1: you fake Denos, we gave you Beyonce, we gave you 947 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: Hispanic Heritage Month takes. We gave you call out culture 948 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 1: that's not real or council culture that's not real. Um, 949 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 1: we gave it. Also, don't ever say that we don't. 950 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 1: We're just tired, you guys. We're just going. We continue 951 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: to be exhausted. If you even knew the battles that 952 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 1: we fight behind the scenes, you guys have no idea, 953 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: but somehow we persist. It's fine, it's fine. We're saving 954 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: it all for the memoir the memoirs, honey, just look 955 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: out for those memoirs because they will be juicy. The 956 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 1: things that we've had to do. We'll just leave it 957 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: at that. We'll just leave it at that. Well, alright, 958 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 1: look at what is Thank you for tuning into this 959 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 1: very lengthy episode about everything. Honestly, um, this is a 960 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 1: September episode because we gave you Beyonce's Birthday, Linic Caritage Month, 961 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: all of the above. So remember to support your favorite 962 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 1: independent creators, whether that be us, whether that be other podcasters, 963 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 1: online creators. UM subscribe on Apple podcast, follow on the 964 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 1: different listening platforms, leave us a review and we will 965 00:59:52,280 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 1: catch you next time. 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