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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and
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Speaker 1: outside Forward Center at the Star in Frisco, Texas, where
Speaker 1: it is thirty four degrees. It feels like twenty three.
Speaker 1: The wind is kicking today. If you haven't been out there,
Speaker 1: Hi is thirty nine low Tonite will be twenty three.
Speaker 1: And here we are Kurt Daniels, Sir Jesse Holly, Nate
Speaker 1: new newly elected to the Black Football College Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: Black and Black Black Black Baby, He'll smiling, needs a cookie,
Speaker 1: needs a cookie, needs to get going, man. I owe up.
Speaker 1: I've done two shows and kind of bombed on him,
Speaker 1: and now I'm trying to do a read for Doug
Speaker 1: and I'm struggling. Man, why are you struggling? I'm so
Speaker 1: excited just about just being happy. I'm I need to
Speaker 1: calm down. I'm to calm down. Well, don't calm down
Speaker 1: till after the show, because we need you hype for
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, because we have a big time interview
Speaker 1: in this. In this we do second segment. Danny McCrae,
Speaker 1: Malik Hooker, Oh, Catherine was Danny. That was last night
Speaker 1: name Yeah it was. That was a good show with
Speaker 1: him shirtless. We tried, We tried, man even waving. His
Speaker 1: wife was on our side trying to get him shirt
Speaker 1: didn't say. We did say butt naked and afraid about
Speaker 1: eight times doing the show last night. Did we say that?
Speaker 1: Or we did? Me and they both said it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so quick funny story. I don't know if d anyone
Speaker 1: to tell the story, but I'm gonna tell. I don't
Speaker 1: know if story. Just say, y'all are homeboys. Yeah, y'all
Speaker 1: We were cool, were cool. Bring the receipts too, receipt
Speaker 1: It was. It was funny because we were at his
Speaker 1: viewing like that when it when the show first started,
Speaker 1: they had a two hour premiere, right, so we were
Speaker 1: all over it. When were we at shark club Shark club, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had a watch party for invited everybody out, so
Speaker 1: we were all over over there, and we were having
Speaker 1: a great time and it's over and it's a couple
Speaker 1: of us still kind of uh mingling around and hanging around.
Speaker 1: And so the way Danny had his hair styled was
Speaker 1: similar to the way that I had my hair styled.
Speaker 1: It both was kind of like, you know, we both
Speaker 1: have lots, but we both had him twisted up and
Speaker 1: we both wore him. We were wearing him in a ponytail.
Speaker 1: And so I'm standing there at this table. I'm about
Speaker 1: to leave, so I'm, you know, I'm cashing out my
Speaker 1: bill for food and stuff like that, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, I feel this soft touch, like run down
Speaker 1: like my back, and it goes, honey, what are you buying? Honey?
Speaker 1: What more are you buying? And I thought to myself,
Speaker 1: who is this good? Right, I'm cashing out just in
Speaker 1: and as I and I do it, and know if
Speaker 1: anybody just kind of runs down your back, this is
Speaker 1: this warm outside. So I have a T shirt on
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what woman's touch right? And I turned around
Speaker 1: and it's Danny's wife and she thinks from the back, yeah,
Speaker 1: that I'm Danny. And it was like, she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I thought you
Speaker 1: were Danny, and I like I understood it. We both
Speaker 1: had white T shirts on, we both had you know,
Speaker 1: our hair was in the same style, but her face
Speaker 1: looked like her face when I turned around, and I
Speaker 1: was just like My response to her was like, you
Speaker 1: kind of wish Danny was this tall, right, And she
Speaker 1: laughed and she laughed, but but it was just it
Speaker 1: was just so funny because you know, at that time,
Speaker 1: everybody kind of had a few not me, but everybody
Speaker 1: kind of had a few few adults feel adults, beverages
Speaker 1: and if you ever been in the shy club, the light,
Speaker 1: it's not like in the studio. It was a dim situation.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that was funny. The look on her
Speaker 1: face when I turned around was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. How many different ways
Speaker 1: can you wear your hair with dreads like that? Um,
Speaker 1: put in a ponytail, you can let it down, you
Speaker 1: can style it up, I can get I can get
Speaker 1: it braided. Okay, Um, you ever done that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're wearing a hat again. By the way, today, I
Speaker 1: know it's never ever because this covers up the rest
Speaker 1: of my face, and you can't decipher, you know, what
Speaker 1: I look like, what I'm not? Can doing it any style?
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted. I just didn't know. I'm growing
Speaker 1: my hair out, but it's not near the league. How
Speaker 1: long you been growing your hair? About twelve? Thirteen? Wow, Nate,
Speaker 1: how long you been growing your hair? Sixty? Don't even
Speaker 1: know what that means even a little minute. Thro but bad, Kurt.
Speaker 1: I don't have you been growing you hair? Oh? Wow,
Speaker 1: you just gotta cut. Yeah, you gotta cut earlier this week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're looking good. Yeah, you know, new year, new Kurt.
Speaker 1: I like it. I'll cut your beard off. I don't
Speaker 1: think ever. I'm honestly, I'm kind of scared because I've
Speaker 1: had it for probably eight years now, the beard, and
Speaker 1: I know there's some lines on this face that weren't
Speaker 1: there when I didn't have it. Well, you like, will
Speaker 1: you at least cut it down to like maybe you know,
Speaker 1: maybe not? Maybe maybe it's not obnoxious. I need to
Speaker 1: see a picture of you eight years ago. I don't
Speaker 1: like his profile picture on emails and stuff is like
Speaker 1: from twenty years ago or whatever. Ten twelve, Pull it up,
Speaker 1: put it up, Chris and throw it out there. Pull
Speaker 1: it up, Chris and throw it out there. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: show it to you in the break. So no, Chris,
Speaker 1: throw it out that to the world. Chris. You do
Speaker 1: Jesse and we gotta do him. Fine, I'll send I'll
Speaker 1: send you one, Chris. You can shood what I look
Speaker 1: like without a beard. I'll find one on my phone
Speaker 1: here and he's gonna find what he actually likes sending
Speaker 1: it on your credential. No, they changed. They updated this
Speaker 1: year finally, like it took him ten eleven years to
Speaker 1: update it and then finally did it. So I don't
Speaker 1: look anything like I do with with the beard without
Speaker 1: So all your crimes, you keep your beard for all
Speaker 1: your crimes. You can know what messed up my mind
Speaker 1: is I thought about that. I was like, the first
Speaker 1: thing I would do if I ever was wanted by
Speaker 1: the FBI or something. The beard comes off. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: immediately the beard comes on, be like what did you do?
Speaker 1: What did you do? And now I got a kid
Speaker 1: that if I cut it, he's not gonna have any
Speaker 1: idea who I am. You'll see those videos on the
Speaker 1: internet where guys cut their beards and the kids are
Speaker 1: like just busting tears, Like I did that to my
Speaker 1: dad one time. You know he you know, he he
Speaker 1: came late one night because he delivered newspapers or regional
Speaker 1: calvert these newspaper routes and here's what's that song? Get up?
Speaker 1: It needs you real quick. And need helped me load
Speaker 1: up the card of the vehicle. I got these papers
Speaker 1: to run. You know, one of my workers, you know,
Speaker 1: missed a right down get there you yes, me run
Speaker 1: out there, man, and we're throwing the cars and he
Speaker 1: talking banging up like who so you go right? If
Speaker 1: you go for his voice, I would not have known.
Speaker 1: I would not. I said, Dad, what happened? So I
Speaker 1: shaved him and he but he said, you know the
Speaker 1: old school dad didn't care like you you adjusted keep
Speaker 1: throwing these papers. But I'm like, wow, he shook me. Man.
Speaker 1: Did y'all uh happen to watch the MAVs game last night?
Speaker 1: You know they had the big ceremony for Dirk and
Speaker 1: they had a lot of a list celebrities courtside. Did
Speaker 1: you yeah? Somebody son of something. I was scared to
Speaker 1: send it out because I didn't want to get talked
Speaker 1: about it happened to see who was courtside without masks on.
Speaker 1: I did, and then the news came out today that
Speaker 1: is it tiring? And Anthony Brown? Did I see Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown on the list as well, So still got a
Speaker 1: little COVID mini outbreak going on. And nah, but shut up, Jesse,
Speaker 1: shut up, Jesse. Don't say nothing. Don't talk like that. Jesse.
Speaker 1: No one told you shut up yesterday. That was I
Speaker 1: just said. He just had opinions. He just wanted to live.
Speaker 1: He just wants you know what a Mari and City
Speaker 1: were just living last night. Now. Yeah, and when when
Speaker 1: I saw that and it came from I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, if I tweet this over to you or
Speaker 1: to somebody, then I'm gonna get sold out to the
Speaker 1: next day, so I let it cold. And here's an
Speaker 1: interesting thing. And I wasn't there, so I can't confirm this.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people who were there, who I
Speaker 1: trusted what they say, said they didn't even stay for
Speaker 1: the Jersey ceremony. They left after the game. They just
Speaker 1: went to the game. They just went to the game.
Speaker 1: Maybe they went to see Steph yeah, maybe, but they
Speaker 1: left after the game was over. So what like they
Speaker 1: were there because Dirk was, you know, and I'm I
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to spend a whole
Speaker 1: segment on COVID talk because I mean, it is what
Speaker 1: it is. I don't really know how I feel about it,
Speaker 1: because if I'm part of me is like, Nate, just live,
Speaker 1: then just go. But then part of me's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you kind of have an obligation as a teammate and
Speaker 1: being on this team to take care of your body.
Speaker 1: Take care of yourself, no matter what that means, take
Speaker 1: care of you, your brother, take care of your teammate.
Speaker 1: Part of that is it's playoff time and maybe they'll
Speaker 1: lock this thing down after this week and they started,
Speaker 1: but that's too that's too late for you, right because
Speaker 1: things like we are today's Thursday, Yeah, okay, all day,
Speaker 1: all day Thursday, and this thing takes sometimes three or
Speaker 1: four days to be positive and then you're and then
Speaker 1: you got five days after that, so then you're gonna
Speaker 1: be short winded for seven days. You're gonna be short
Speaker 1: you're gonna be out, You're not gonna be practicing, because
Speaker 1: the game plan will change. Whoever we're playing, whether it's
Speaker 1: the Rams or it's the Cardinals, your game plan changes you.
Speaker 1: The focus gets more lasered in when it comes to
Speaker 1: the playoff because you have nothing at times, when you
Speaker 1: have a seventeen week season, what you end up doing
Speaker 1: at times is you divide your staff. You'll have some
Speaker 1: of your staff as the week goes on start preparing
Speaker 1: for next week, while the rest of your staff are
Speaker 1: preparing to finish out this week. In the playoffs, you
Speaker 1: locked in at all hands on deck on this opponent,
Speaker 1: start breaking down of the next opponent. We need, we
Speaker 1: need every stone unturned. We we if we need you watching,
Speaker 1: you watching, you, watching me watching, so we could if
Speaker 1: we could find one thing that is a determining factor
Speaker 1: in the game, we're gonna use it. Yes, And Amari
Speaker 1: had COVID five weeks ago, right, Yes, he missed, he
Speaker 1: missed the Las Vegas game, so he doesn't so he
Speaker 1: doesn't have to test anymore. Right, And then how it works,
Speaker 1: you don't test any No, I think he's n't vaccinated,
Speaker 1: so he has he would have to test, still has
Speaker 1: to test. Fellas I said to yesterday, and I said again,
Speaker 1: you either lock it down universal it's team by team,
Speaker 1: deal by deal, and that's just how it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: And Mike McCarthy cannot be No, the Cowboys do it right,
Speaker 1: The Corgnals, don't you rick, the Aptimals don't could catch
Speaker 1: a wait a minute, hang on til this man can't
Speaker 1: stop for two the last two years. Cannot stop himself
Speaker 1: from saying the R word every time it comes out
Speaker 1: of his mouth. He never calls them the football team.
Speaker 1: And we mentioned their new name one time and he
Speaker 1: catches himself mid sentence, the admiral, you know what? You
Speaker 1: know what? That tells me? Your whole bit. It's a bit.
Speaker 1: You can pronounce every name in the book. You don't
Speaker 1: forget things, your whole. You just proved that you're whole.
Speaker 1: He called it to The Crosby Show three different times.
Speaker 1: It's a bit, Nate, if you could do what you
Speaker 1: just did your whole this whole stick you've done for
Speaker 1: four years on our show is a bit. I think
Speaker 1: it comes and goes. No, this is the thing it's like,
Speaker 1: and I'm serious about this, Kurt Jesse Shannon, he remembered,
Speaker 1: you cannot do it team by team. You cannot do
Speaker 1: COVID state by state. It has to be a universal thing,
Speaker 1: corporate independent, free living. It has to be all a nothing.
Speaker 1: That's the only way this will work. Canada has proved
Speaker 1: that it's all a nothing. If you do anything else,
Speaker 1: one week we'll have this up. Two weeks from now
Speaker 1: we won't. It's either all or nothing. That's why I
Speaker 1: see you might as well live. That is the god
Speaker 1: on the truth. No matter what you say, we sat
Speaker 1: right here and agreed collectively. Hey man, the Cowboys players
Speaker 1: need to do it better. Last night we get a
Speaker 1: text around about seven o'clock. Guess who's at the game.
Speaker 1: It's either all or nothing. That's that's the only way
Speaker 1: it's gonna work. Australia's got to figure it out. By
Speaker 1: the way, who that Australia. Yeah, they're not letting the
Speaker 1: number one tennis player World Tennis match because it's unvaccinated.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's causing any kind of rift in
Speaker 1: the room because I think Dak had said, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to games like this during the season,
Speaker 1: you know. Do you think other guys are starting to say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, come on, they need to. I think this
Speaker 1: time of year they need to is either all or nothing.
Speaker 1: Fellas I'm telling you, when you when when we say
Speaker 1: we have the right to do what we want as
Speaker 1: a human being, we have the right if it was us,
Speaker 1: if it was our team, And when I played U
Speaker 1: go to go to a Marverige game, Troy, when Troy Aigman,
Speaker 1: and if Troy didn't speak to you, Mike definitely gonna
Speaker 1: stop speaking to you. The next thing, you know, everybody
Speaker 1: looking at you. It's fifty some guys saying wow, really,
Speaker 1: And we would lock our families now, we would do
Speaker 1: whatever it take because it means that much. But you
Speaker 1: cannot ask young people but who who you've given them options.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing is that we've seen players, for the
Speaker 1: most part, be locked down every single year. You go
Speaker 1: to training camp, you are locked down, Yes you are.
Speaker 1: You are locked down. When you go to training camp,
Speaker 1: you leave your families for literally three weeks, for literally
Speaker 1: almost a month, personnel training, equipment. Uh, everybody leave your family.
Speaker 1: So we make this thing out to be something you know, Oh,
Speaker 1: I was in there, I was in there. I was
Speaker 1: in the the the post office yesterday mailing something off.
Speaker 1: And this lady comes in with no mask on. They
Speaker 1: politely tell her, you know, hey, can't come in here
Speaker 1: federal building. She screams, well, it's my right and so
Speaker 1: ladies kindly goes, well, it's our right to kick you out,
Speaker 1: and like she left huffing and puffing, and the lady's like,
Speaker 1: does she think I care that that that that's happened,
Speaker 1: Like she needs the stuff mail, not me, So she'll
Speaker 1: get a mask or she won't. And when I look
Speaker 1: at this situation, it's you're serious about winning this whole thing,
Speaker 1: or you're not, or you're not. Like And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that that people can't live, Nate. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that you can't live your life. I'm saying I'm saying
Speaker 1: that there are moments where there is a little bit
Speaker 1: more sacrifice that needs to be committed for the greater
Speaker 1: cause you don't get there are players. See, Nate, you're fortunate,
Speaker 1: you're you're fortunate in your life to know and experience
Speaker 1: what it feels like to win the big one, not once,
Speaker 1: not twice, three times. Wow, that's great, Thank you, Jess.
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure there was a moment in time
Speaker 1: in that locker room, maybe your mind, where it just
Speaker 1: became almost a normality. Hey guys, listen, we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna win another one. Let's go out there and it
Speaker 1: became what we strive for. It became just this what
Speaker 1: we do. Yes we're going to the playoffs. Yes we're
Speaker 1: gonna win an NFC NFC championship, and yes we're going
Speaker 1: back to the super Bowl. I find it very hard
Speaker 1: to believe in that window of that dynasty that that
Speaker 1: wasn't a thought process. All right, we Chris is texting me,
Speaker 1: we gotta take a break. We're gonna continue this because fellas,
Speaker 1: it's still gonna be. I love what you've said. I
Speaker 1: love it. I'm just saying that that is not the
Speaker 1: reality of what's happening. It needs to be. All right,
Speaker 1: we gotta take a break. When we come back, we'll
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Speaker 1: play nice, Actually stand up and talk to Malik Hooker,
Speaker 1: which he was actually a great interview. I didn't know
Speaker 1: anything about Malik. He doesn't talk much. I haven't no, no, no, Malik, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: the way you talked about to receive, well, you shouldn't
Speaker 1: know him. No, I don't know him either, to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, but he was. He actually I thought
Speaker 1: it was a really good interview. Was awkward because me
Speaker 1: and Kurt are standing in front of his video board.
Speaker 1: And then it was even more awkward when I forgot
Speaker 1: mid interview that he actually joined the team in training camp.
Speaker 1: I heard about that and wasn't here in the off season,
Speaker 1: so there was an awkward moment with me, and then
Speaker 1: Kurt like wouldn't let us get out on time. So
Speaker 1: here's the interview. Watch it, Enjoy it, Nate Jesse, go
Speaker 1: get a snack because it's about eighteen minutes long, and
Speaker 1: we'll be back for the third ex Hanging with the Boys. Kurt,
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Speaker 1: the show. If you all know, Hanging with the Boys
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Speaker 1: due to COVID protocols, we're not able to have guys
Speaker 1: in the studio. But we are in studio and we
Speaker 1: have on the monitor behind us it is Kurt Daniels
Speaker 1: over here. I'm Shandy Gross and we have right here
Speaker 1: in the middle, Malik Hooker. Malik, welcome to the show. Man.
Speaker 1: How have you been. I'm doing great. I thank you
Speaker 1: guys for having me on the show. Absolutely, man, glad
Speaker 1: you glad you're here. Glad you're joining us. What what
Speaker 1: is the mentality like going into this last game, gearing
Speaker 1: up for the playoffs? It is it business as usual
Speaker 1: for you guys? Is there a little more intensity this week?
Speaker 1: Walk us through kind of preparation and what you guys
Speaker 1: are getting ready for against the Eagles on Sunday on Saturday?
Speaker 1: All right, it's still is still you know, the show's
Speaker 1: still going. You know, even though we took a tough
Speaker 1: loss last week, that can't get us off of what
Speaker 1: we want to get a complace throughout the end of
Speaker 1: the season. So I mean, we're still here and we're
Speaker 1: still treating as if it was week one or you know,
Speaker 1: as you know, the last game of the season. So
Speaker 1: it ain't really make no difference for us. We know,
Speaker 1: we still got to go out there and do our
Speaker 1: job to make a statement going into the playoffs. What
Speaker 1: was it? I gotta ask, man, you finally got that interception?
Speaker 1: Man if I gotta pick there, What was that like
Speaker 1: for you? Kind of getting getting that off off your
Speaker 1: shoulders there? Oh, it was special, man. It was just
Speaker 1: that was just rehabbing and all that stuff that I've
Speaker 1: been through this offseason and you know, just the training
Speaker 1: and the work that I put in and get myself
Speaker 1: back to be able to come iron compete at a
Speaker 1: high level, you know, a week in and and week out.
Speaker 1: You know, it was just special for me to finally
Speaker 1: see it payoff when I got the interception. What's it like?
Speaker 1: The defense? You guys, You guys seem like the fun
Speaker 1: group this year, like you know, usually it was back
Speaker 1: in the past, it was the offense and the guys
Speaker 1: were having all the fun. Now between like the secondary
Speaker 1: and you know, you got bash them. That's a clown.
Speaker 1: You got Neville that's a clown. You got Randy that
Speaker 1: gets in the mixed tank is tank Like you guys
Speaker 1: seem to really be having fun and going back and
Speaker 1: forth with the offense, Like is this just is it
Speaker 1: as fun on the inside as the fans think it
Speaker 1: is from the outside. Yeah, it's exactly what you know,
Speaker 1: fancy and stuff like that throughout the mic ups and
Speaker 1: like that that they've been putting off. So it's exactly
Speaker 1: what everybody sees. You know, it's actually unique because a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys come from different places and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, got different personalities, you know, like myself, I
Speaker 1: don't really talk much. But to be in a group
Speaker 1: with guys like Kay's who's really energetic and Jay Louis JK,
Speaker 1: who's you know serious majority of the time. Then they
Speaker 1: have their moments where they're you know, they're playing around
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. It's just you know, special group
Speaker 1: and that's what makes this journey of us and you know,
Speaker 1: this this playoff or e're about to go on going
Speaker 1: to be so special because you know, we've been building
Speaker 1: this since I came in comp you know, honestly, and
Speaker 1: when the fore I came them five days I was
Speaker 1: in protocol just listening to the meeting and stuff on
Speaker 1: the camera. Those guys was already kind of like they've
Speaker 1: known each other for years. So to finally be a
Speaker 1: part of this and finally, you know, out on the
Speaker 1: field with these guys and seeing the first hand and
Speaker 1: being a part of it, you know, special, it's real special. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's this year's I mean, whether I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know it or not been in the past,
Speaker 1: the Safeties have taken a lot of criticism here from
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, But you guys are tight group this year.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're playing well on the field, You're getting
Speaker 1: you know, having fun off the field. I mean, what's
Speaker 1: it like in that room, is you know, with your Safeties. Honestly,
Speaker 1: since I came in, you know, guys have been pretty
Speaker 1: i mean supportive of you know, whatever other guys rolls
Speaker 1: of rolls were, whether it's a new guy like me
Speaker 1: and guys like DT and JK coming into teaching me,
Speaker 1: you know everything they know from every position and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So I can honestly say from this group,
Speaker 1: everybody cheat each other like family from you know, from
Speaker 1: when they first walked into now and It's crazy because
Speaker 1: we're all different, but we all have very similar personalities
Speaker 1: and stuff like that as far as competitors, So I
Speaker 1: think that's what makes us click and link so much.
Speaker 1: As far as the group, and this is fairly a
Speaker 1: fairly new group as far as a unit together. You know,
Speaker 1: you've got your You've got your your old guys in
Speaker 1: the room, you know, Tank and Randy, those the old dudes.
Speaker 1: And then you got jk that came in. He's kind
Speaker 1: of an older guy on this team, but he's kind
Speaker 1: of been a journeyman throughout his career. But for the
Speaker 1: most part, the group as a whole is a lot
Speaker 1: of new guys like yourself, like Kaz, and then a
Speaker 1: lot of young guys like Micah and those guys and
Speaker 1: Neville and those guys in Osa. They're starting to fit in.
Speaker 1: But it seems like you guys have known each other forever.
Speaker 1: Did y'all do stuff in the off season to kind
Speaker 1: of kind of create that chemistry or is it just
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that just get along and like
Speaker 1: to be around each other? Honestly, I mean honestly, like
Speaker 1: I said, I came so late, I couldn't tell you
Speaker 1: know what the guys have done as far as when
Speaker 1: it was OTAs and stuff like that, but I mean
Speaker 1: since the season started. I mean we have playing plenty
Speaker 1: of events and stuff like that throughout the whether it
Speaker 1: was a dB group or you know as a defense
Speaker 1: overaud up where we've come together just kind of hang
Speaker 1: out on the karaterie and stuff like that. So I
Speaker 1: can honestly say I think it's just a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys that have one goal and the mind, but you know,
Speaker 1: kind of clicked along the way, you know, because like
Speaker 1: I said, all of us are kind of similar, all competitors,
Speaker 1: so it's like we kind of know what each other's energies,
Speaker 1: this stuff like that or that we feed off of,
Speaker 1: which makes us all elevate whether it's on the phild
Speaker 1: or off the field, because, like I said, this group
Speaker 1: so tight, like we have conversations about no personal stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, relationship stuff that name me. Like guys in
Speaker 1: here talking about all types of things and stuff like
Speaker 1: that to help each other off the field too. So
Speaker 1: like I said, it's just a group. Yeah, everybody's willing
Speaker 1: to do it ever to see somebody be better. I
Speaker 1: will say, Kirk, I've I've been around Malik for you know,
Speaker 1: the better part of the season. Now with one game
Speaker 1: to go and then and you know, then the playoff
Speaker 1: game coming up. And the first question that I asked him,
Speaker 1: his response, that's the most that he's talked to me
Speaker 1: all year. So mate, he's he is a quiet guy.
Speaker 1: He doesn't say much, so that or he just doesn't
Speaker 1: like me in general. But like, I'm glad we got
Speaker 1: to do this and actually catch up and get to
Speaker 1: know you man, because you seem like a really chill,
Speaker 1: cool dude. Yeah, I honestly don't really talk to me.
Speaker 1: That's why, you know, I tried to do little things
Speaker 1: social media wise and stuff like that to kind of
Speaker 1: interact with people that think, you know, I'm really quieter,
Speaker 1: don't speak at all and stuff like that, just to
Speaker 1: you know, kind of get the fans and insight on
Speaker 1: who I am personally, and you know, just to you know,
Speaker 1: the funny guy that I am sometimes. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: to take away back now here. So you were a
Speaker 1: basketball guy in high school, right, You were recruited for
Speaker 1: D one schools and basketball didn't start playing football to
Speaker 1: your junior years that right, Yeah, I started playing football
Speaker 1: my juniory I was more so focused on basketball. I
Speaker 1: want to say, I played in like middle school and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, obviously, but when they got to my
Speaker 1: freshman year, I was just focused on you know, travel
Speaker 1: basketball and wanted to you know, get a state championship ring.
Speaker 1: And then my junior came and I got a cousin
Speaker 1: who was the quarterback at the time, him and my
Speaker 1: uncle talking me into play, and I went out and
Speaker 1: ended up having a good year. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: one of the guys that's on our team out here,
Speaker 1: I competed against him and he was one of the
Speaker 1: top ranked athletes, and that's what kind of got me
Speaker 1: off and going. That made me want to pursue football.
Speaker 1: So did you miss basketball any I didn't even know
Speaker 1: a lie to. Yeah. Yeah, I watch it all the
Speaker 1: time in my off season when I can. Man, my
Speaker 1: brothers wore at my mom's house. We shoot on the
Speaker 1: court and stuff like that, so I can't I can't
Speaker 1: lie to do it was my favorite sport before a
Speaker 1: football all right, So random question here, you pick your
Speaker 1: starting five out of all your teammates to field on
Speaker 1: a basketball court? Who are you? Who are your four
Speaker 1: guys you're taking to play with you and for sure
Speaker 1: description as to why. Okay, so I know for sure
Speaker 1: I'm taking old Brown because I obviously went to school
Speaker 1: him and we used to know, we used to dominate
Speaker 1: guys at the recent So, uh, definitely I heard Lois's nice,
Speaker 1: nice big man I could play. And for watching him
Speaker 1: shoot on the bends in the locker room, I think
Speaker 1: I'll be able to take as our big man. Uh
Speaker 1: give me Jay Louie always practice basketball, moves on the film,
Speaker 1: stuff like that, so he got I feel like he,
Speaker 1: uh I need a big man. Uh man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take probably Is. I'm gonna take Is. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: Is for a civil factor. I think he looks like
Speaker 1: he might there to do something because he's six four
Speaker 1: six five, and I don't know. All right, fair enough,
Speaker 1: you mentioned uh shooting hoops and all with your family.
Speaker 1: You've got a big family, right, and you got a
Speaker 1: brother it's at Ohio State right now. Yeah, I got Uh.
Speaker 1: I got another brother who's currently back at home and
Speaker 1: uh he's focusing on probably going back to school to
Speaker 1: play basketball. And then I got my youngest brother who's
Speaker 1: at Ohiose State still playing. Uh, he graduated and I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna get his master's degree as whatever. A
Speaker 1: lot of competition there, not really, I mean the competition, honestly,
Speaker 1: believe it or not, was my sister. She used to
Speaker 1: be the one that was that was the best out
Speaker 1: of all of us and and really was her my
Speaker 1: older cousin. They was the one that really got us
Speaker 1: to really want to start playing basketball because they always
Speaker 1: won the Whippio championships and stuff like that. So I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I know I'll be able to do that. And you know,
Speaker 1: we all ended up. I think in our household we
Speaker 1: got like fourteen other championships back home altogether. Wow, sisters
Speaker 1: got Yeah, my sisters got I think like three or
Speaker 1: four whippeals together, so that's eight. I think I got
Speaker 1: three whippeals in the state, and my brother got three
Speaker 1: whipples in the state, and my mother brother got like
Speaker 1: two or three. Man some jez in that house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was that all just just like you guys are
Speaker 1: did you did your parents played sports or where did
Speaker 1: all the athleticism come from? Yeah? I think with my
Speaker 1: dad he was kind of like obviously me and my brothers,
Speaker 1: he was really you can jump real high, and he
Speaker 1: was just like, I think honestly it was my mom, Like,
Speaker 1: all right, she breakdass back when she was younger. Usig
Speaker 1: was still to this day she loves basketball. She got
Speaker 1: asthma real band, so she'll shoot two times a Nita
Speaker 1: and Helen, but she still tries to get off there
Speaker 1: and play. Uh. And I honestly that that was really
Speaker 1: I think that was really what it was. My mom
Speaker 1: must say. I don't think it was really too much
Speaker 1: my dad. So you're a big basketball guy. Two questions, One,
Speaker 1: who did you or who do you still look up
Speaker 1: to and admire as far as the way they play
Speaker 1: in their game? Who did you follow when you were
Speaker 1: growing up? And then two, who's who's the goat? Everybody
Speaker 1: that well? My close friends, So we had this conversation
Speaker 1: all the time. My favorite players, Lebron James I had.
Speaker 1: I had his rookie card like when he was in
Speaker 1: like this this kind of wood thing. I had it
Speaker 1: since I was like probably like seven. So Lebron always
Speaker 1: been the guy that I always admired playing basketball and
Speaker 1: always wanted to kind of make my game similar to
Speaker 1: simple factor he played. He could play all five positions.
Speaker 1: He's domb to that as as if you watch basketball
Speaker 1: right now, he just what set a record for youngest
Speaker 1: player to have thirty six thousand points. So that's why, uh,
Speaker 1: like I said, Lebron James to go to my opinion,
Speaker 1: he could play off five positions. Don't get me wrong. Now,
Speaker 1: like I said, Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan, they are
Speaker 1: very dominant players stuff too. But but this my style
Speaker 1: of basketball what I try to do on the basketball
Speaker 1: for it, and I used to play similar to Lebron James,
Speaker 1: and you know that's kind of I like the electricfying,
Speaker 1: dunking off people and stuff like that. But as well
Speaker 1: as that, I like to chase down blocks and the
Speaker 1: dunks he does. So that's my rope watching, all right. Also,
Speaker 1: one more question before we wrapped the show up, and
Speaker 1: we have a little a little segment we will do
Speaker 1: here with wingstop. But same question about football. Who did
Speaker 1: you who'd you grow up in Miron playing football? And
Speaker 1: who do you think who's your favorite player of all time?
Speaker 1: My favorite player growing up was Reggie Bush like probably
Speaker 1: any other kid just from you know, watching the high
Speaker 1: school highlights, and you know, he was a game changer
Speaker 1: every time he stepped on the field. But uh, and
Speaker 1: then obviously a Troy Paulamala two because I was from
Speaker 1: I'm from the PA area in Pittsburgh's like forty five
Speaker 1: minutes thirty five minutes from home. So I was always
Speaker 1: a fan of Troy Paula Malla just for the simple
Speaker 1: fact that I don't stinct that he was around the ball,
Speaker 1: like not even just how he hit hard or anything
Speaker 1: like that, but for the size he was and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. He will make a crazy catch, like I
Speaker 1: want to remember specific play specifically where it was like
Speaker 1: a tip pass and it was about to hit the ground.
Speaker 1: He scooped a one handed up making the play. So
Speaker 1: I was just always a fan of the athletic stuff
Speaker 1: he didn't do, you know what I'm saying. So and
Speaker 1: then now my favorite pla there now to watch, I say,
Speaker 1: probably is uh ich I like watching Derwin James. I
Speaker 1: like watching Derwin James. I've been I had first heard
Speaker 1: of dirt when I want to say, uh, obviously throughout
Speaker 1: college and stuff like that, and then we ended up
Speaker 1: signing to the same agency. And I just always been
Speaker 1: a fan of how he plays the safety position and
Speaker 1: how he's able to play different positions of being able
Speaker 1: to be an impact player as well as most positions.
Speaker 1: So I've always been a big fan of Derwin James
Speaker 1: since it came into the league. Never Mind, I gotta
Speaker 1: sneak one more in here. You grew up in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: went to college in Ohio, played for the Colts up
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Was a kind of weird moving down here
Speaker 1: to Texas. And it's funny because before I had ended
Speaker 1: up getting picked up here, I was looking at possibly
Speaker 1: coming down to Texas anyway. So when Dallas picked me up,
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'd have been across the country already
Speaker 1: if it was like you know. So it's definitely a
Speaker 1: different experiences as far as like the food and as
Speaker 1: you see out here, the weather. You can go from
Speaker 1: it being summer in the morning winter at night. So
Speaker 1: that's the thing that's really different. But from where I've
Speaker 1: been before them, you know, the food and stuff, I
Speaker 1: got more variety of options for So that's why I
Speaker 1: feel like Texas probably wanting the most of food side. Well,
Speaker 1: we're glad you're here, man. And to wrap the show up,
Speaker 1: everyone knows Wingstop delivers the flavor for the Cowboys. For
Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation. Now it's time to learn about Cowboys players
Speaker 1: who live and play with that same flavor. Malik Hooker
Speaker 1: our guest here, and I'm gonna ask you a few
Speaker 1: questions here before we let you go. Which teammate is
Speaker 1: the biggest sneakerhead with the most flavorful get it flavorful
Speaker 1: collection to kicks thinks? Or just who style in general
Speaker 1: do you like? I'm gonna have to go with my dog.
Speaker 1: I like JK style my dog JK. I gotta go
Speaker 1: with JK, you know, because he's capable. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not nothing I would wear it personally, but I just
Speaker 1: like how he puts it together, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying for him being a guy that's six five and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, certain stuff you'll feel like
Speaker 1: guys will be able to wear. But I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie my dog my dog to clean on game day,
Speaker 1: all right? And that that guy. He's probably one of
Speaker 1: my favorite guys on the team, and he's been on
Speaker 1: the show before because he goes from the nicest, most
Speaker 1: laid back, quiet guy to an absolute maniac on game day.
Speaker 1: So I love his attitude. Man, He's awesome when it
Speaker 1: comes to your wing stop are you a classic wings
Speaker 1: guy or you a drums or flats guy? Do you
Speaker 1: like drums or flats? I like drums more, but I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I've been trying to eat flats a
Speaker 1: little bit more with it. You know. I always hear
Speaker 1: people talking about how good the limon pepper flats is
Speaker 1: from wing Stop. So I try, I try to, you know,
Speaker 1: switch it up a little bit. But I'm more of
Speaker 1: a drums guy. Have you tried the thighs yet? Now?
Speaker 1: I ain't never tried. No, tho. This is always drums, like,
Speaker 1: even when there are flats of stuff, and I'll pick
Speaker 1: out every drump first, right, even get to the flags.
Speaker 1: All right? And og hot was the first Wingstop flavor
Speaker 1: they tossed up. Um, I'm again I'm guessing you like
Speaker 1: lemon peppers. What you just said is that your favorite
Speaker 1: Wingstop flavor. I'm more probably just like a regular hot
Speaker 1: guy because I don't like doing nothing too crazy as
Speaker 1: far as flavors and stuff. I'm I'm pretty simple, but
Speaker 1: I mean the hot sometimes it'd be too hot for meeting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might have to grow with the lemon peppers. They're interchangeable,
Speaker 1: all right. And last question, which teammate do you think
Speaker 1: could throw down the most wing stop and a wing
Speaker 1: eating contest? Man, I'm CAZy. Listen, believe not believe it.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna say, you believe it or not.
Speaker 1: Every time Kay's I always one game specifically, like it
Speaker 1: was like I want to say, partly like five games ago,
Speaker 1: and it's like before the game, you know guys obviously
Speaker 1: a journaline and stuff like that. So so glass are hungry.
Speaker 1: I'm okay. So he goes and gets a play the
Speaker 1: food and stuff, and then halftime comes and he says,
Speaker 1: he's hup, you're a getting it said this time halftime.
Speaker 1: I mean for most people I know in the locker room,
Speaker 1: it's like you get little snacks and stuff to rejuvenate.
Speaker 1: And instead of a little snack, he comes back with
Speaker 1: like a little tray of like a whole middle in
Speaker 1: the middle of the game. So I'm having to say,
Speaker 1: Kays the first time I see him that game that day,
Speaker 1: he was eating summer. He was snacking on something so awesome. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you appreciate it. Ma Leig, thanks for joining the
Speaker 1: Wingstop Flavor feature with us. Man, you guys keep doing
Speaker 1: your thing on defense and uh, hopefully we're We'll see
Speaker 1: you out there still playing in February. Man, thanks for
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Speaker 1: with the Boys, Welcome back. Last few minutes of the show.
Speaker 1: Good interview with Mali Cooker. There good questions, Kurt, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to kiss up to me. I'm kissing up. You
Speaker 1: had great questions. You know something interesting. I saw the
Speaker 1: stat sheet or the possible things that could happen this game,
Speaker 1: and I think Dalton Schultz needs like less than fifteen
Speaker 1: yards to only be the second tight end besides Jason Witton.
Speaker 1: Ever have eight hundred receiving yards for the doubts Jason Witton,
Speaker 1: then give up those reps to no no body. I
Speaker 1: used to laugh when people say, oh, he's the greatest
Speaker 1: leader here in the world. You want to get leading Jason,
Speaker 1: You ain't getting no reps in practice. What does that
Speaker 1: have to do with Dalton Schultz. What I'm just saying
Speaker 1: is I just I'm just taking them and take us
Speaker 1: out of Jason Witten. There you go, but you thank you.
Speaker 1: Let me finish you. Let Zeke try to get his
Speaker 1: eighty five yards for a thousand Kenny. He only had
Speaker 1: he ain't had more than fifty five yards in the
Speaker 1: last man week five. Give him twenty five carry or
Speaker 1: whatever it takes. Or Micah can get fourteen and a half.
Speaker 1: He's got thirteen sacks. If he gets fourteen and a half,
Speaker 1: he was playing, He's not, I mean, I mean there's
Speaker 1: still a possibility, right, everyone was saying he's not. Could
Speaker 1: play okay, and then if the Cowboys score one point,
Speaker 1: they sent an all time record for most points scored
Speaker 1: in a season by Cowboys team. This extra games screwing
Speaker 1: up all kind of but you gotta put an access
Speaker 1: on that, right, No, No, probably the way they'll do
Speaker 1: it is there will be an astra like they do now, Sarah,
Speaker 1: since they started keeping whatever, and I'm sure going far
Speaker 1: to be since the seventeen seventeen game season Cowboy's biggest seasons.
Speaker 1: I can't remember I was sixty eight or something like that.
Speaker 1: It was a fourteen game season. Really wow, he's still
Speaker 1: kind of Yeah, I remember it was when there was
Speaker 1: an immaculate reception that was a because who broke Nagi
Speaker 1: Harris broke Frank O'Hara um his rookie rushing record. But
Speaker 1: he got his rookie Russian record in fourteen. It will
Speaker 1: playing fourteen games back then, so it was like, uh,
Speaker 1: I took you seventeen, chump, and then Dak throws four
Speaker 1: touchdown passes. He ties Romo for the most touchdown passes
Speaker 1: in Cowboys history in a season. So yeah, stuff could
Speaker 1: have us stats somewhere. This is like the lowest, Like
Speaker 1: there's only like three thousand yard rushers or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's really a low total to share compared to years past.
Speaker 1: And you got an extra game. Yeah, all right, real
Speaker 1: quick before we get out of here. Amari had something
Speaker 1: interesting to say yesterday in his press conference. Um, Kurt,
Speaker 1: you got it. I had all here, Yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: I really, I really know that if given the opportunity,
Speaker 1: I can lead the league in all categories. That's just
Speaker 1: how I feel about my skill set. And then he
Speaker 1: went on to say, I've got to have those targets,
Speaker 1: and that's not really in my control, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Just play my part. Can I translate? I
Speaker 1: can I? Can I black translate that for you? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you. We read the first line, Kurt. I really
Speaker 1: know that, if given the opportunity, I can lead the
Speaker 1: league in all categories. If these muffs got me to
Speaker 1: said it, you said it, you said it, make me
Speaker 1: edit the show you said it. If these jokers got
Speaker 1: me the ball on a boy consistent basis the one
Speaker 1: guy that dot cossle this show dropped the m effort
Speaker 1: because it gets me so upset. If these jokers get
Speaker 1: me the darn ball, I could, I could, I could
Speaker 1: really go out of here and put us some work.
Speaker 1: B The next line hurt. You weren't gonna need to
Speaker 1: find on the big one. No, that's just how I
Speaker 1: feel about my skill set. The shop. I'm nice. I'm nice.
Speaker 1: I'm nice. Y'all see me, y'all see me in training camp.
Speaker 1: I got the big chain that says it. I spent
Speaker 1: money on the chain that says the best route runner.
Speaker 1: I'm nice. So they give me the rock. First line
Speaker 1: they if these give me the rock, I'm nice, next line,
Speaker 1: and he goes on. It's like basketball. If you want
Speaker 1: to make one hundred threes, you gotta shoot over a hundred.
Speaker 1: It's the same with me. If I want to catch
Speaker 1: a hundred balls, I got to have those targets, and
Speaker 1: that's not really in my control. If if if y'all
Speaker 1: want to see us really do our thing. I need
Speaker 1: the rock more. Throw it this way. I could get
Speaker 1: one hundred. I should have a hundred catches every year.
Speaker 1: Ain't no way in the world, y'all, y'all pay me
Speaker 1: all this bread. Let me go, Auhead, make this bread.
Speaker 1: Let me go Auhead and do what. Let me cook,
Speaker 1: let Amari cook. And finally, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I just played my part. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It ain't me. It ain't me, y'all. I'm out there
Speaker 1: every day, y'all. I lay some up every day. Y'all.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It ain't me. Wink wink,
Speaker 1: it ain't me. Might be the best thing Jesse's ever
Speaker 1: done on the show in the last three years, especially
Speaker 1: the mfor I didn't do that. Edit that out. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure you did edit that out. No. I was like,
Speaker 1: when Nate was saying what he was saying, we'll go
Speaker 1: back and check it. Who'll go check to take Kurt
Speaker 1: good See to you tomorrow Friday, Jesse good Seed, Hey,
Speaker 1: good show. We'll be back tomorrow. Christ Mom's coming tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she'll be back on tomorrow. Let's go. Chris, thanks for
Speaker 1: keeping us on the air, William, thanks for keeping the
Speaker 1: live streams up for today. William, get it up on
Speaker 1: YouTube us brother, the people, come, edit it first, edit
Speaker 1: the end, leave it, leave it on it, okay, leave
Speaker 1: it on the not the problem. No it's a website.
Speaker 1: No it's pod. Oh Apple podcast, Go Apple. Okay. All right,
Speaker 1: Well we will be about nine tomorrow with some more
Speaker 1: insight and maybe Jesse will break something else down for us.
Speaker 1: Line by line. We'll be back to speak only speak
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