1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: My father called me ungrateful after I cared for him 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: during a medical crisis, so I exposed his affair as 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: you should, as you should be fits the crime. This 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: whole thing happened a year prior, but the repercussions are 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: still happening, and I hope they continue until the day 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: that be tard. Oh my goodness, WHOA, this will be long, 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: So buckle in now. This this is a story background. 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Growing up, me and my sister had no love towards 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: our father whatsoever. I'm not going to bore you with 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: the details of a Bosaic abusive, violent man, but there 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: are a few details that come to mind. So, by 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: the way, this comes from Thunderkirk on the r slash. Okay, 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: storytime supparate it. So, when my sister got accepted into 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: a much better but also further high school than our 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: local one, she moved immediately and rarely visited, so she's 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: no longer there. We were ten years apart and I 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: was four at the time. I grew up resenting her 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: for leaving me to deal with this BS all by myself. 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: But now I understand better and we're on good terms. 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like when you get older, you realize, 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: oh we were both in a bad situation. 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's like I also like the I saw 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: this meme of like of a guy going off to 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: like college and leaving his like abauty household, and then 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: there's like like that he's like going off and then 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: he looks down and it's his little brother like like 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: looking up at him. 28 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: A meme. 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: A meme. Yeah, it was like a sad meme like 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: a comic. No, it was like it was like a 31 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: little little like TikTok video. But yeah, I know, I 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: think that's like it's tough to like leave like a 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: sibling all alone to deal with it alone. Yeah, but 34 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: now I understand better and we're on good terms. My 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: local factory was so big that it supported my whole town. 36 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: Virtually everyone worked there, so everyone knew each other, my 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: parents too. But then it was purchased by the Defense 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Ministry and decided to cut off anyone without at least 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: a high school degree. My mother was let go, and 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: this was after she'd had me four months. So basically, 41 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: like everyone in this town is losing their jobs, including 42 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: Opie's mother. My father out made it until retirement and 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: was granted military status. Basically they gave it an honorable rank, 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: so his pension would almost double. But also you have 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: to act accordingly because in terms of speaking your military personnel. Now, 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: my childhood was an absolute nightmare. So needless to say, 47 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: I turned out to be an absolute mess, and your 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: management and mental instability are notably the worst, and I'm 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: still working on them. Well, when I turned eighteen, i enlisted. 50 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm confused by that because it's like, 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: you had this like very hard upbringing, seemingly maybe like 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: spurred by the military, or like I'm going to en 53 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: list too. 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's if it's what you know, it's true, 55 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: and also you get benefits from it. Yeah, and if 56 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: you've had kind of that hard life and you don't 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: have that support system, a lot of people do tend 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: to go into the military to get that. 59 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, military does support you, unless unless it. 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: Kills you until you were out of the military. 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Till you're out of the military, and then it will 62 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: just push you on the streets. Two major benefits It 63 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: didn't cost money, and I could never come home if 64 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want to. For me, it was literally a 65 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: highway out of hell. Fast forward three years later, I 66 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: got an honorable discharge. Turns out I had mental problems, 67 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: actual mental problems. Who would have known. I got a 68 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: bulk load of money and even more in the following 69 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: months when they were able to process my military insurance. 70 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: Came home to find my town incredibly underwhelming and my 71 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: father hadn't changed a bit. And this father was no good. 72 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: I took what I could and moved to the city 73 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: where my sister was living. The last words my dear 74 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: old dad said to me was You'd never make it, 75 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: because apparently being discharged for mental illness showed that I 76 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: was a coward. 77 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: That sucks. 78 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: Also, I think he didn't like that I was tougher 79 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: than the boy who used to obey his every word 80 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: that I once was when I stood up for myself 81 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: more in the few weeks I've stayed with him than 82 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: the entire eight heen first years of my life. So 83 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: at least OP is now like sticking. 84 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: Up you guys like you can't push me around. I 85 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: went to the freaking military. 86 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I moved to a new environment, took up a 87 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: blue collar job. I was pretty beefy thanks to the military, 88 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: and decided to pursue a career in it all the 89 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: while taking care of my mental health. All right, now, 90 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: this is when it all started. So now we're getting 91 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: even into the deeper tea. 92 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: Juicy, let's dive in. 93 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: We're wading into the tea. So sometime during this time, 94 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: he got diagnosed with cancer. I was told it wasn't dangerous, 95 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: but operations were required. My sister had actually reconciled with him, 96 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: partly because my mother a few years prior and would 97 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: occasionally bring my niece home to visit them. She was 98 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: quite successful, so he decided, so she decided to pay 99 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: for the whole thing. Operations, treatment, hospitals, recoveries. It was 100 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: all hers. She paid for this while moving into a 101 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: new house and buying her first car. Though things are 102 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: pretty expensive in my country. My father had a huge 103 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: bank account because of his pension, but he didn't have 104 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: to pay a single penny. Yeah, I'm confused why they 105 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: didn't like let him pay if he had so much money. Yeah, 106 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: like why why is there? Probably why are your kids paying? 107 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, he has military insurance and he has a 108 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: huge bank account pension. 109 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: Like why is maybe she just like she felt responsible 110 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: or something. 111 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, maybe during this time I was 112 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: struggling with work. So after your so of recovery, all 113 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: in all, things were good, all right, So he's recovering. 114 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: During this time, I was struggling with working and studying, 115 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: living paycheck to paycheck and had to rely on a 116 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: social program to get treatment for my illness. I visited 117 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: him after every operation, though it wasn't anything tearful. If 118 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: he didn't poke me, I was fine. So apparently everything 119 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: was fine. Maybe he learned from his cancer to not 120 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: being such a a whole. 121 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: Well sometimes sometimes people have life near death experiences, change 122 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: change people every once in a while. 123 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: Possibly, after nearly a year of staying at my sister's house, 124 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: he and my mother headed home after his doctor gave 125 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: him a go. At the time, I was looking for 126 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: a new job because current one was horrible and made 127 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: my health mental health actually worse, and I was lucky 128 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: to find one where most of my skills were transferred 129 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: and I had enough time to finish my study. One day, 130 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: my mom called in tears and asked me to come 131 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: home that weekend. She told me that my father had 132 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: been seeing someone else while getting cancer treatment. 133 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: Dang, he's got he's got some moves. 134 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 135 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: Oh, that's Stevie with Joseph Gordon Levitt where Joseph Gordon 136 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: Levitt has cancer. 137 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and shaves his head. 138 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he like uses it to flirt with people. 139 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: And is it's very of that successful or like Stephen 140 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: Hawking like flirting with his nurse and successfully cheating on 141 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: his wife even though he couldn't move, like he could 142 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: like wink an eye. 143 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: Oh he could move somewhere. 144 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, is that crazy? 145 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: I can't imagine. 146 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, but this is like. 147 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: Una reverse because usually the spouse has cancer and the 148 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: other spouse was cheating. 149 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't. 150 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: You don't get to have cancer and she you can't 151 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: do that. 152 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: Faith Belling says cancer. Is that is true? But man's 153 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: got some cancer riz that feels weird, saying, I don't know. 154 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Now, I must admit I'd 155 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: not put anything behind this man. But then I thought 156 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: she was paranoid. She still is up to this day 157 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: about everything. And I was under the thought of going 158 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: home on a four hour trip both just for something 159 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: that's utterly unimportant. So I calmed her and swept it 160 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: under the rug. Fast forward a few months, I got 161 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: another call this time for my sister. She came to 162 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: visit that week with my niece to inform them that 163 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: she was three months pregnant. 164 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: Whoa. 165 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: What was supposed to be a happy union turned into 166 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: an absolute crap show. Apparently, when my father left his 167 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: phone unattended for a few minutes, his mistress sent him 168 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: a very spicy picture, and my mom saw it pop up. 169 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: Needless to say, all heck broke loose? 170 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: What was he sitting back just like he's like in 171 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: the hospital ward? 172 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this might be right after Oh yeah, 173 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think he's cleared now, but I 174 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: think the cheating might have begun while he was in 175 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: the hospital. 176 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: War How how did he meet this girl? 177 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: Maybe was his nurse? Yeah she was. She was sticking 178 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: the chemo needle in him and he was sticking his needle. 179 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: What if you're like a nurse so like. 180 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: To have spicy sleep with your patience. 181 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. It happened a lot in Grey's Anatomy. 182 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: But yeah, nurses, let us know. Is that illegal? Yeah? 183 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: Needs to say, all heck broke loose. My sister said 184 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: that was the first in many years that she saw 185 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: my mother scream bloody, stabby stab my father, and when 186 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: he tried to give her the old one too, my 187 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: sister threw herself in between, which prompted her husband to 188 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: throw himself in between because you know, she's still pregnant. 189 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: It all ended in a very teary trip back to 190 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: our city after hours of hurling insults at each other. 191 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: The only good thing that came out of it was 192 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: my mother somehow was able to bring his phone with her. 193 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: We convinced my mother to get a divorce. Okay, at 194 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: least at least that that's happening. Yeah, I mean, he 195 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: sounds like an awful man, but she's the submissive housewife 196 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: who thought divorces were worse than boiling live puppies, and 197 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: I think back then, she's still somewhat hoping that he 198 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: turned around. They've been together for almost thirty five years 199 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: at this point, so I figured something must have been there. 200 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: She didn't want it, so we dropped it and decided 201 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: to cut him out for good, good lo and behold. 202 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: Half a year later after the incident, my father's side 203 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: of the family started to contact me. I have a 204 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: strict no call policy where the only people allowed to 205 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: call me outside of work hours are my mother, my sister, 206 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: her husband, three of my best friends, and only recently 207 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: my boyfriend. 208 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: Oh it's getting serious. 209 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: So to my bamboozlement, my father, his sister, my aunt, 210 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: his mother all called within a day. They suddenly acted 211 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: so nice, convinced me to come visit them. All right, 212 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm a little suspicious. Obviously that was all a ruse. 213 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: After the incident, my father's side blamed my mother and 214 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: said she should have kept it a secret and not 215 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: made a mess for the family's sake. Maybe the father 216 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: Opie's father shouldn't have cheated and made a mess for 217 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: the family's sake. 218 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 2: I hate when the person who's don't shoot the messenger, 219 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: don't sorry, don't poop you the messenger. They're just trying 220 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: to spread the word. If we unlive Paul Revere for 221 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: letting everyone know that the British were coming. 222 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: We wouldn't have America. 223 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: It wouldn't have America. 224 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: America would be done. 225 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: And that is a point that stands for this story 226 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: as well. 227 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: Agreed. Yeah, I can't believe they're getting mad. They're getting 228 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: mad to the wrong person here. 229 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: Oh I see. 230 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: They also disavowed me and my sister because we were 231 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: ungrateful brats after we did not accept their ultimate argument, 232 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: he's your father, out. 233 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: Of course he's blad. 234 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: Out of morbid cure curiosity, I ventured back home alone 235 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: to see what it was about. Turned out they wanted 236 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: to sell his house. It was all my grandmother's land 237 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: back when he was about to undergo his first operation. 238 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god. We didn't know how it turned out, 239 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: so we transferred the house to my name, because apparently 240 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: inheriting a dead person's estate in my country it is 241 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: a living nightmare. Out of convenience, we convinced my grandmother 242 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: to give me the land as well, since she was 243 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: very old eighty at the time. This was back when 244 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: we were on good terms. I knew for sure they 245 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: would rather gorge their eyes out wow opia is away 246 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: with warbid words, then follow up with any of that. 247 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: If it had happened a year later, Well, I smelt 248 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: something in the air. Couldn't place it, but I knew 249 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: it was there. So I told them nicely that I 250 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: would think on it, and immediately went back to faking 251 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: an emergency. A plan formed when I was driving back, 252 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: and that's the first time I'd been so pleased about 253 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: anything I actually cracked a smile. I'm imagining the Grinch smiling, 254 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, very very excited. Do you know what 255 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: Opie's dast really plan could be. 256 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: I'm no, I haven't a hoot. I don't see. 257 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: That's the face that I'm imagining. 258 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: It's the curling up. 259 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: Yes, Riley got it. 260 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: So op was at their house, was talking to them 261 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: about getting this right around and we have like kind 262 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: of inheritance thing going on. 263 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Ope was given this house and I think 264 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: the family was being all nice. 265 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: To Ope, but they knew it was a lot of 266 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: like castle. 267 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, but well, so what happened was Opie's 268 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: dad had this house on the grandmother's land. Yeah, because 269 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: they were unsure what was going to happen with Opie's 270 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: dad wasn't sure if he was going to live or die. 271 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: They gave it to op to kind of hold on to. 272 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: And now they're like coosing up to op to try 273 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: to get the house. 274 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: Is like, I have got a dastly plan. 275 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, so and also now op has the land too. 276 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: So Opie has the house and the land from the grandmother, 277 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: so they kind of like op owns everything. This is 278 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: back when they were on good term and they they're 279 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: trying to get the house back. 280 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: I guess interesting, Yeah, because. 281 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: They wanted to sell his house and the mother is 282 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: already correct, no one's. 283 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 2: No one's, no one's everyone's alive. 284 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: Everyone's alive. 285 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, to get out of some taxes. And 286 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 3: then she set up a trust and then put the 287 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 3: house into the trust so they don't have to pay 288 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 3: taxes on the house whenever someone dies. 289 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: Well, I think I don't think this is in the US. 290 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not in the US. But also I think 291 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: they put it in Op's name because they knew that 292 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: it would be all of this hassle and stuff if 293 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: he passed away exactly. 294 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so they were trying to do that. But 295 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: now Op just has all of this. So I cracked 296 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: a smile and I went to my sisters immediately. My 297 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: mom had been staying with her, and I laid out 298 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: a plan. After a year living in the city, my 299 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: mom was much more open minded and only took a 300 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: few convincing for her to agree to the plan. Faith 301 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: Belling says he gives it to his mom or something. 302 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: I honestly have no idea what the plan could be. 303 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: I haven't the foggiest. 304 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: The foggiest idea of this plan. So my sister contacted 305 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: a lawyer and asked what our options were. Because both 306 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: the house and the land were in my name, they 307 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: had no claim to them, and any paper that didn't 308 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: have my signature on it would be considered useless under 309 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: the law. They could try and claim it was rented out, 310 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: but then they'd have to move far away and hope 311 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: that I'd never be able to locate them, and I 312 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: knew it'd be too much trouble for a couple of 313 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: old folks. They could claim it's his life achievement. Because 314 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: he and my mother never divorced, it's technically half hers 315 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: as well. This, however, is when I came up with 316 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: an idea. I asked the lawyer what if my mother 317 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: filed for divorce. He said, it's highly unlikely the court 318 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: would reward my mother's full claim unless we could prove 319 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: that he was unfaithful before the separation. To a surprise, 320 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: I could ops receipts. 321 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: Get me took a phone. 322 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, remember the phone that my mother It was smashed 323 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: during the fighting, but generally still in one piece. She 324 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: asked me to throw it away. A few days later, 325 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: after my lazy a just brought it back to my 326 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: place and threw it in the loft. Sufficient to say 327 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: it provided us with more than enough proof of his indecency. 328 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: Nice being lazy pays off. Sometimes gotta be lazy to 329 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: be to win. 330 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: To win, we got the execution now. So after weighing 331 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: our options, I called to inform my father that I 332 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: would come home the next month to make an announcement. 333 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: He was eager to hear it. Upon my arrival, they 334 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: were so nice and sweet and whatnot. But after I 335 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: introduced my lawyer, it's like they flipped a switch and 336 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: suddenly became vile and violence. I presented him with two options, 337 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: relinquish any claim to the house or be served with 338 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: a lawsuit. In my country, marital violations are six month 339 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: probation minimum up to two years in prison. 340 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: Riley, Can you look at what country that is? 341 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, look at it. Look up the country. Why 342 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: don't they never want to tell us what country is? 343 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: Tell us you think that we're going to find you 344 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: in your country? 345 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 346 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: Come on, unless you're like your country's ten people. 347 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe Vatican City. Maybe we could find you other 348 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: than that probably not. 349 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: This is actually the pope writing. 350 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dude, Pope's got tea. All the confessions, the. 351 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: Pope is a queer man with tea, according to the story, 352 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: I mean probably true. I mean according to this. 353 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's queer man, but he definitely 354 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: has ta. I mean he's listening. He's listening to a 355 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: lot of stuff. 356 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: India, Middle East, Asian cities, European cities. 357 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: Okay, man, that's too many. After a lot of screaming 358 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: and name calling and feet stomping tantrums, he kicked us out, 359 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: So naturally, I assumed he chose the ladder at the 360 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: first hearing. So the hearing of the court my mom, me, 361 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: and my lawyer were present turned out to be another 362 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: screaming contest in which he made up all kinds of 363 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: lies about my mother. At some point, my lawyer leaned 364 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: in to tell me that if the officer didn't stop 365 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: his rantings, it's likely they were buddies and asked me 366 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: to let him handle things. 367 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: So they're saying that the dad is ranting at the 368 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: mom and being like my and the officer. The officer 369 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: isn't doing anything, and simpler is like they're probably in cohoots. 370 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: The officer told us this case wasn't a priority and 371 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: it would take months to process. We wouldn't like the paperwork. 372 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: It's best to settle this out of court. So yeah, 373 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: the officer that is conducting the court hearings and the 374 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: father are in cohoots with each other. My lawyer politely 375 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: declined and told my father to expect another hearing soon 376 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: under much less friendly circumstances. He tried one more tactic 377 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: in between, which was calling all the relatives and telling 378 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: them how my mother was a bee and I was 379 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: an ungrateful brat in hope of creating some kind of 380 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: pressure on us. Very few of them took a side, 381 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: and even if all of them did, I would have 382 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: never let him get off that easy. And the second hearing, 383 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: he finally cracked and agreed to my terms, which were 384 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: we're relinquishing any claim he might have with the house 385 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: and divorcing my mom. So those are the two stipulations. Basically, 386 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: the only person who has any claim to the house 387 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: now is my mother. I agreed to let him keep 388 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: living in it for the rest of his life, though, 389 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: but not anyone else. AKA is mistress who he was 390 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: basically living with, so now he's. 391 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: Just kind of like a renter in this place. 392 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: Which honestly is kind of nice of op to let 393 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: that happen. 394 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: Very considerate after how he treated it. 395 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you could, you could like kick 396 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: him out for what he's been doing. Yeah, completely, Okay, 397 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: and now the revenge, because that wasn't revenge enough. No, 398 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: all right, Opis Opie's going in out. 399 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 2: That's what the military gives you, organization. 400 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that it does. 401 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, These are military tactics. 402 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: So this was where my work started. First, my sister 403 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: gathered all the receipts from all the medical billings she 404 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: has paid for his treatment. A few of them were missing, 405 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 1: but we were able to put up a huge folder. 406 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: I also crap my pants learning how expensive cancer treatment 407 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: could be. Not a fan when we had a general 408 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: sum of the money we build him for it. This 409 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: is very unethical in my country, since children are expected 410 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: to take care of their parents, but we threw that 411 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: out the window long ago. We also knew it was 412 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: not a criminal case, so we just went to small 413 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: court claims and then sent in the bailiffs to collect, 414 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: which was just this lady. She went on with a 415 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: I don't give an f attitude. When he failed to comply, 416 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: she sent in the thugs by that, I mean police 417 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: to start seizing assets. So I guess like they're like, like, 418 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: the father can't pay all the cancer treatment even though 419 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: the sister started paying, and so the government's just seizing 420 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: their shit. 421 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well it seems like they're they're charging him 422 00:19:59,080 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: for all this tiff. 423 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, those sister is say goodbye to the wooden furniture, 424 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: a twenty seven I smart TV of fridge reclining massaged here. 425 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: All were bought by my sister as well. He had 426 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: to pay out of pocket because that lady insisted they 427 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: continue seizing whatever he bought until she saw the money. 428 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: Although the final amount was half to my mother under 429 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: the eyes of the law, shared half of that for 430 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: some reason, so half of the debt, it still cost 431 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: him seventy percent of his savings. Of course, this wasn't 432 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: about the money. We were just petty. 433 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: No. I think what happened here is that the sister 434 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 2: Op's sister charged was charging him for the costs. That's 435 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: what it sounds like. It doesn't sound like because it 436 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: sounds like she sued him or something, and then they 437 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: basically took all of his assets to pay for it. 438 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like to me. 439 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, but I guess, like what, Yeah, but the 440 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: government is seizing it on their. 441 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: Behalf, Yes, to pay for the sister. 442 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, the government is seizing on behalf of a 443 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: sister because like I guess, I guess she but she 444 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: paid for all that stuff. But I guess because she 445 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: paid for it under the pretenses. 446 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: She's basically like, yeah, she's billing him to Yeah. 447 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: Can confuse what that court case would be because she 448 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: willingly paid. 449 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also am confused. I don't know how she 450 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: would be able to get that money when she did young, 451 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: when she willingly played for it. 452 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Looking back, I should have taken the recliner because my 453 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: back hurts like a bee, even though I'm only in 454 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: my late twenties. But after that was done, I contacted 455 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: my local factory to file a report. Remember the sweet 456 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: pension he got with the condition that he behaved accordingly, Well, 457 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: clearly someone had been a bad boy and they let 458 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 1: him go with it, even though it was a small 459 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: town and everyone knew everything, because nobody ever filed a report. 460 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: But that's not the case anymore. I gave them a 461 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: very detailed folder with pictures from his phone to say 462 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: they were spicy. Sleep yole was an understatement. 463 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: So there's kind of a morality clause ye. For the 464 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 2: the military pension. 465 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: They immediately set up a hearing and he was of 466 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: his rank, making his pension down to just over half 467 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: the original amounts. I know this because old folks gossip 468 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: like their lives depend on it, and my mother is 469 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: not excluded. She was very happy hearing about that. It's 470 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: all she talked about for a month. I was about 471 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: to be done here, but a week later, my sister 472 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: called to tell me that my aunt came to her 473 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: door to rate her and her children. My sister was 474 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: working from home. My mom also lived there but had 475 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: gone out for some reason. My sister just called security 476 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: to kick her out and warn me she could go 477 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: for me next. I was seeing blood, not because of 478 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: some lame booty Karen that could cause some inconvenience at most, 479 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: but because she was screaming at my niece and nephew. 480 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: As a gay man, I know full well the blood 481 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: line ends with me. So I put all of my 482 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: love into those little guys, to the point that if 483 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: I had been there, I would have bitten her head off. 484 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: So I dug a little around and found out my 485 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: aunt was knees deep in debt. She was hoping, Yeah, 486 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: she was hoping she could lead some money off my father. 487 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: It's not from the money he made selling the house 488 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: and then from his big bank account, since neither of 489 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: those was available anymore. She was angry and thought she 490 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: could lay it on my sister. You want to know 491 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: what a man could do with determination and raging hatred. Well, 492 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: I'd never set up an online social presence, mainly because 493 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: up to my eighteenth birthday I was too poor to 494 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: have a phone, and then the military taught me it 495 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: wasn't needed. But for a special occasion I made an exception. 496 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: I created a Facebook account, befriended her, and didn't even 497 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: have to pretend to be anyone, since old people apparently 498 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: except friend with a question anyone. She's on this vibe 499 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: where she'd throw off her money and her vacations and 500 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: her items like a wealthy person from my mother and 501 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: her trusty gossip circle. I knew that she always told 502 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: whoever she owed money that she was struggling, so I 503 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: figured out she must be blocking them. The next part 504 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: was easy. I just send all the selfies to everyone 505 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: she's owing to. I didn't have to declare myself since 506 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: I was literally on a throwaway account. So it's just 507 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: this really long line of messages that showed my aunt 508 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: spending her money lavishly. So the next following month she 509 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: was threatened, not with legal actions like I did, but 510 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: with much more sinister actions. She would have thugs, not 511 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: the police, throw gifts at her door like paint, fish, sauce, 512 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: and sometimes literal craps. 513 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: Dude, this chick is gonna end up on the squid Games. 514 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, is Op going too far? Wow? Wow? 515 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 2: Because we were like, oh, that's nice that, Like, you know, 516 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: OPI let his dad live in the house even though 517 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: he treat him so badly. 518 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: He's trying to get this person like lived. 519 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: No, we don't stop here, we keep going. 520 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 521 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: How I feel about this. I don't know. I think 522 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: is systematically destroying everyone who messed with him. 523 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, because the line here is getting justice for his 524 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: mom getting cheated on. But now he's getting all the 525 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: justice that is available to him. If that makes sense. 526 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a little bit too much. I 527 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: think it's a little bit too much. But I would 528 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: love to know what you guys think. Yeah, but your 529 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: answers in the chat. 530 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 2: But just ins far as people, he's Yeah, Karina Krena 531 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 2: says he's going too far. He's putting her in danger. 532 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, she finally figured out what I was going to 533 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: do when I told her to find me a list 534 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: of all the people she's going to. Oh my god, 535 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: And now there's the pro revenge. 536 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: That wasn't the pro revenge. I hope that I never 537 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: get on Op's bad side. 538 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god. As much as I want to take 539 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: credit for this, the idea wasn't mine. Forgive me, for 540 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: I once again had to lay out a bigger background. 541 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: So my father's side of the family is this very 542 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: traditional family where you would have a person acting as 543 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: the head of the family, deciding things that matter. This 544 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: was way before the war, so obviously they don't do 545 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: such things anymore, I imagine the Vietnam War. But the 546 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: head of the family still has a certain voice. And 547 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: there's this once in a year ceremony where we gather 548 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: together to pay tribute to our ancestors. During the ceremony. 549 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: The head of the family will give a speech and 550 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: then some announcements like who died, who got married, who 551 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: gave birth, etc. Then there will be a celebratory party 552 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: where we basically get wasted. My great grandfather was ahead. 553 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: He had three sons and two of them passed away 554 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: during the war, so my grandfather took the mantle, then 555 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: my father and eventually me. The whole side of the 556 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: family is another town that's like three hours away, mainly 557 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: because my grandfather didn't expect to be the head, so 558 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: he moved out seeking opportunities. I found these gatherings redundant 559 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: and unnecessary, but that year was actually looking forward to it, 560 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: probably for the revenge. My father tried to keep the 561 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: actual date hidden. It wasn't fixed, but generally somewhere between June. 562 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: But he seriously underestimated my mother. She doesn't have a 563 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: gossip circle, she has an infinite number of them. So 564 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: my mother, me and my sister's family all head back 565 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: for it. The trip is fourteen hours in total, but 566 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: the result was so worth it we timed it so 567 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: it'd come two days earlier than my father. Again thanks 568 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: to her gossip circle. I guess getting all the information. 569 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: She's like, she's got like a hole. 570 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: She has the little buds throughout the city. 571 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: She's like a rat king she's collecting. 572 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, this side of the family had never heard the 573 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: full story, only the version my father gave them, which 574 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: was that he had left my mother in good faith. 575 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: I actually gave my father some credits for not bowd 576 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: mouthing my mom. After weighing all the pros and cons, 577 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: we decided to let my mother a loose and she's 578 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: exceptional when it came to relaying details about her personal tragedies. 579 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: I kid you not. If I posted her story word 580 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: for word, by the time next week, there would be 581 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: a global justice for thunder Kirk's Mother movement. It took 582 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: just one day for everyone to know what an a 583 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: hole my father had been. The look on his face 584 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: when he arrived with my aunt my grandmother and saw 585 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: my family already there was priceless. He got the stink 586 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: guy from everyone. For the rest of the day, nobody 587 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: would initiate conversations with him. So he's just sitting there 588 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: like a sad dog. Now. I know what they say 589 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: about passing it passed away horses. But the idea was 590 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: brilliant not to follow through. 591 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: I don't think op ever, wastes an opportunity to be 592 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: get revenge, to beat a passed away horse. 593 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, my uncle, let's call him Oliver, came 594 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: up with this. And the hierarchy is equal to my father. 595 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: And the event that my branch doesn't have a male 596 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: successor one hundred percent, what's going to happen. His branch 597 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: will be the head of the family. He told me 598 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: I should take up the mantle of the head. It 599 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: was very sudden. I didn't have a speech ready. My 600 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: father was supposed to do that, but Oliver told me 601 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: I could just tell whatever I want because nobody really 602 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: paid attention to that thing anyway. All the other elders 603 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: were okay with it. The speech wasn't even the best thing. 604 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: At the celebratory party, people will be assigned tables based 605 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: on the family tree. Heads of each branch will sit together, 606 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: their children sit together, the elders sit together, so on 607 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: and so forth. This sounds very like royal like. This 608 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: sounds intense like the familial dynamic. Because I was elevated 609 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: to the head of my branch, I would be sitting 610 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: at the big boy table. My father didn't even get 611 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: to sit at that supposed table because miraculously it was full, 612 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: even though I could have sworn there weren't twenty of 613 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: us and each table can sit up to ten. He 614 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: had to sit at a regular table with my aunt 615 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: and a bunch of nasty widows who didn't hold back 616 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: their snarky comments. So I was told, I didn't think 617 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: he'll ever come back to one of those anytime soon. 618 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: I I'm kind of so OPI was kind of promoted 619 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: in the family. 620 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 2: I do think it's funny, though, that that was the 621 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: pro revenge, because that does seem more tame than all 622 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: of the other revenge. 623 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, the other revenge was like catfishing everything. 624 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: So like the normal revenge, I catfished my aunt and 625 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: people might un alive for now. And like the you know, 626 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: pretty good revenge was getting the law to take all 627 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: of my dad's assets from him. But the pro revenge 628 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 2: was making my father sit at a different table. 629 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that should reorganize it. Yeah, I 630 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: think we should reorganize that. 631 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: But well, it might be a cultural thing. 632 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: I think it might be. That's true, babe, really important. 633 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: Maybe he's getting threatened by the mafia. Is not as 634 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: bad is getting devoted in your familial dynamic. 635 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, because in the Southern Baptist church, if you don't 636 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: sit where you usually sit, people get irritated. They're like, oh, 637 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: that's like my seat, but they don't say anything, and 638 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: they kind of be past progressive. 639 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: But we still got a little bit more to the story. 640 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: Let's run it the aftermath. My father is now just 641 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: a miserable old man. His mistress left him because surprisingly 642 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: she was after his money. He's living in our old 643 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: house with next to nothing. His retirement money, though halved, 644 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: was good enough for him to live by. And last 645 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: I heard, his cancer has come back, and obviously this 646 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: time my sister won't be paying for it anymore. He 647 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: had tried to initiate contact with my mother, trying to 648 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: make amends. We had to block his number and his 649 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 1: profile on my mother's account because she actually considered it. 650 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: She has her soft side my aunt, which OPI definitely 651 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: does not have. My aunt has to sell her house 652 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: to pay all the debt or else they just continue 653 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: harassing her. She now lives in a small house she 654 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: bought off with the rest of her money. I felt 655 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: bad for her. Husband because she's because he's actually chill 656 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: and quite nice, but he's not the most decisive, and 657 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: therefore he doesn't really confront her. I hope he's doing better. 658 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: I have no empathy for her only son, though. Damn. 659 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: Let's just say the apple doesn't far fall from the tree. 660 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: So how do I know all this my mother's gossip circle? 661 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: Of course, I love my grandmother out of this because 662 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: she's very old. She's not demented in any way. She's 663 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: perfectly sane, but she loved her son too much to 664 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: admit he's in the wrong. Also, she was very nice 665 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: and sweet to me growing up. A lot of my 666 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: good memories are with her. I'm sad because he doesn't 667 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: see my mother the same. I also stopped talking to 668 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: her and would only visit once during Lunar New Year. 669 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: She's lived in the small house she and my grandfather 670 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: built on the land that's now in my name. When 671 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: she and my father are passed away, I will carry 672 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: out their wish to build an altar for her and 673 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: my grandfather. Whether or not my father will be included 674 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: is still up for debate. Just to clarify, all this 675 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't have happened if he acted in good faith. He 676 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: could have called all of us back and now said 677 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: he'd be leaving my mother, and I wouldn't have given 678 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: a dang. Instead, he tried to scream and punch his 679 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: way through it, and I acted in response. Also, I 680 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: deleted that Facebook count. I'm crazy, but not that crazy. 681 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: By the way, if you want to be crazy about us, 682 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: you can listen to full episodes of this podcast anywhere 683 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts on Apple, podcasts on Spotify. Could 684 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: listen while doing other things. I could hear our voices 685 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: at all times. So just look up Okay storytime wherever 686 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. There's another relevant update. But dang 687 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: op is getting getting their revenge. 688 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not surprised to see that eighty four 689 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: percent of Chat did not think that was too far. 690 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, of course, yeah, Chat, that's like, oh, 691 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: they only got death threats, Like that's not enough, not enough, 692 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: that's not enough, man. 693 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: I mean, like to be clear, obviously, the people that 694 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: received this you know, revenge or of this vengeance, they 695 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: weren't great, they weren't good people. They were bad people. 696 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a lot, Yeah, it was a 697 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: lot that Cassana says, I'm Vietnamese of origin but never 698 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: lived there. Than goodness, all the bs they have to 699 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: deal with is toxic. Af I am not Vietnamese either, 700 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: but I did, I know, I know, surprising Sophia. But 701 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: I did go on a solo travel through Vietnam and 702 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: I met this girl in a coffee shop that I 703 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: hung out with for a little bit while I was there, 704 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: and she wanted to leave her town and like explore, 705 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: but she felt like she had to live with her 706 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: mother and take care of her and so like there's 707 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: just like an intense duty to family there. Fly, Yeah, 708 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: which I can understand why, like in the context of 709 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: all that, why getting demoted might be pro revenge just 710 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: rather than just revenge. 711 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: Like getting excommunicated from the. 712 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: Church exactly exactly. But we got a little bit more 713 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: of this story. So also about the small court claim. 714 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: As I've mentioned, these kinds of claims are highly unethical 715 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: in my country. So the law is also very slippery. 716 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: You just have to prove that someone owes you money 717 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: or for something. It doesn't have to be big. I 718 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: made it sound easy, but in reality we had to 719 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: go through three different hearings. The judge invitis to settle 720 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: out of court the two. Since my father wasn't present, 721 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: the whole thing took almost a year before a claim 722 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: was rewarded. My sister gave birth to my nephew around 723 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: this time. In short, we found a loophole and utilized it. Also, yes, 724 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: I'm Vietnamese, whoo in fidelity is definitely a crime here. 725 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: In fact, it's the first time I've heard it's not 726 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: a crime somewhere else, So thank you read it for 727 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: the newfound knowledge. Also, clearly this wasn't a spur of 728 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: moment thing. I had thought about it, like what we 729 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: should do if things got messy, but nothing concrete Because 730 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: my mother's reproval everything. We didn't wake up and decide 731 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: to scorch the earth. 732 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: We planned, We planned, We planned and plotted to scorch 733 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: the earth. 734 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, wow, that was intense. Op OPI went, Opie 735 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: went ham Yeah, Opie went Scorchedtrey. Yeah for sure. Shout 736 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 1: out OPI forgiving us a good story. 737 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: Good story to start the stream of Yeah, man, man, 738 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: we got another story in this episode. 739 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: My father demanded I pay for the house he bought 740 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: for his stepdaughter, so I went on off on him. 741 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: If it's not your house. You don't have to pay. 742 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: So a few years ago, I posted about how my 743 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: father cheated on my mother coming out the gate strong 744 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: A little little cheating always hurt somebody, and how I 745 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: retaliated to him financially and socially. Wait wait, what is 746 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: this is? This is this? Is this from the same person? Mmm? No, 747 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: this is from the same person. 748 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: It's from the same person. 749 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: This is an update. This is an update. What this 750 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: is an update? So that last from a few years ago. 751 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: This is an update. 752 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 3: It's about the house. 753 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: A few years ago I posted about how my father 754 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: cheated on my mother and how I retaliated against him 755 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: financially and socially. Again, this is related to that last story. 756 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: This is an update from the last story. This will 757 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: serve as somewhat of an update, as there have been 758 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: developments ever since for those who want to go back 759 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: and read the post. I have some good news. But 760 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: five months after I posted the story, my cousin reached out. 761 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: He had been fired from his job, but he had 762 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: met a wonderful girl and that really changed his perspective. 763 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from thunder Kirk on the 764 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: ar Slash Okay Storytime Subreddit. So growing up, he was 765 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: an only child and his parents were rich enough he 766 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: didn't need to care about school. While I and my 767 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: sister thrived academically, he made no effort to even try 768 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: to graduate from high school, as being a legacy meant 769 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: that he would always have a place in the local plants, 770 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: the one that's big enough to support the entire town. 771 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: That was until he found out how his family was 772 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: struggling financially. His mom had spent all their savings to 773 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: keep an unnecessary lavish lifestyle, and the local plant, after 774 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: three decades, decided to stop hiring people without a degree 775 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: or a trade certific legacy or not. My cousin was 776 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 1: working as a bus operator at the time, but got 777 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: let go and couldn't find a job. And that's when 778 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: this girl changed his life. 779 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 2: So this is the cousin that OPI said he didn't like. 780 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a cousin that was like, oh, like, 781 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: there doesn't fall far from the tree. Got you well, 782 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: She pointed out how helpless he was being a golden child, 783 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: not having to do anything growing up up, and he 784 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: listened to her. He reached out, trying to make amends, 785 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: and I and my sister accepted it. He went back 786 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: to community college, got a degree, and started working at 787 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: the plant late August. That's one relationship saved at his wedding. 788 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: My aunt also wanted to make amends. She had a 789 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 1: falling out with my father and perhaps her son had 790 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: talked some senses into her, so she reached out and 791 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: wanted to talk. Now, we're much more reserved about this 792 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: one because knew her antics so well, but she was 793 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: quite genuine and understanding when we said we couldn't let 794 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 1: her back into the grace as easily as her son 795 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: and the good graces. We went low contact for a while. 796 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: She's made efforts to be friendly to my niece and 797 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: nephew and never showed signs of any malicious intent. So 798 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: it seems like two for two. Relationships kind of getting better. 799 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: Op he's winning the revenge, turned around and bloomed flowers. 800 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: We're still keeping a short leash, but I want to 801 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: believe that people can change, and so far she's not 802 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: given me any reason to think otherwise. That's two for two. 803 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: The third is my grandmother. She's eighty five this April. 804 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: Among and among the grandchildren, I am closest to her. 805 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: So it pained me to have to go low contact 806 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: with her since our last interaction. She had also had 807 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: a falling out with my father because he was trying 808 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: to get her to sign over her estates. Maybe a 809 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: story for another time, but she was having none of it, 810 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: so they fought. In the end, he went a wall. 811 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: They did not see each other for over a year 812 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: until he showed up at my cousin's wedding. At said wedding, 813 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 1: my father made an effort of avoiding me and my sister, 814 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: but approaching my brother in law to brag that he 815 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: bought a house and that he has his mistress living 816 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: in it. We did not think much of it because 817 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: his pension is hefty to those who read my previous post, 818 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: even though it went down forty percent, it's still almost 819 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: as double that of my aunt, so he can pretty 820 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: much afford like anything. But then after we're on talking terms, 821 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: my aunt let it slip that he had to take 822 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: a loan to pay for that. So maybe not as 823 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: much as he thought because he is going to the 824 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: debt or alone debt get getting get. 825 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 2: In the house, but he was originally living in oh pease. 826 00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: Or like yeah, but that was too small you want 827 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: to want something big well. 828 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: But also I don't think he's allowed to live in 829 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: with his mistress there. 830 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: No either, no, So that's why I guess he had 831 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: to get a new new place. But his name is 832 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: not on the deed. It's the oldest son of the 833 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 1: mistresses instead, so he's kind of using the mistress's son 834 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: to get the loan. At this point, we figured that 835 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: he's being scammed, but yeah, not our problem. Because of 836 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: a series of incidents at my job, I was offered 837 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: a much more secure and high paying position. I will 838 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: admit that this is truly an opportunity I thought I'd 839 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: never have for at least another three years, but perhaps 840 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: one can only have so many tragedies. With the raised salary, 841 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: my mom's money from divorce in my sister's help, I 842 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: was able to put a down payment for a house 843 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: for me and my mother, even though the housing market 844 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: in my city was as crazy as ever. Even though 845 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm now eyeballs deep in debt, I'm proud of myself 846 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,479 Speaker 1: for having a house to my name. My father didn't 847 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: contribute anything, and frankly, I didn't want to take anything, 848 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: even if he had asked. Around late November of last year, 849 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: my childhood friend with whom my cousin and I are 850 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: very close, passed away from a car accident. It was 851 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: very sudden. My cousin called me at two in the night, 852 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: and before I knew it, I was home for his funeral. 853 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: Leadless to say, I was in a bad place mentally 854 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: leading up and following his funeral, so I decided to 855 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: move back home until after Lunar New Year, which is 856 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: two weeks away, take care of my grandmother, but I 857 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: was also hoping the change of scenery would do me 858 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: some good. My mother stayed to look after the kids. 859 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: My sister's house is literally within walking distance from mine, 860 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 1: so she'll be fine. And seven days after said funeral, 861 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: my father shows up at my doorstep. I was very 862 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: much still grieving, so I was in no mood to 863 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: play games. I shut down any effort at pleasantries and 864 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: just stared at him while he mumbles about traveling or 865 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,959 Speaker 1: some crap. Then he told me that his mistress's second child, 866 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: a girl, is attending college in my city next summer, 867 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 1: and suggested we meet and be friends. I just laughed 868 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: and told him to have off. That's when he brought 869 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: up the house. Apparently, the precious little stepdaughter doesn't want 870 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: to stay in a college housing campus, nor does she 871 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 1: want to share an apartment with friends or other renters. 872 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: She wants a whole house for herself. That's crazy in 873 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: the middle of the worst housing economy in our country's history. 874 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: Of course, having taken a loan for the house he 875 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: bought for his stepson, he could never afford buying a 876 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: house in the capital city, where prices go up by 877 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: the hour. An attempt to please his mistress, he came 878 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: to me asking for money. I kid you not. This 879 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: man literally dropped my sister off in a foreign city 880 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 1: and told her to fend for herself when she went 881 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: to go to college for the first time. And now 882 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: he wanted to bend over backwards for a child that 883 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: isn't even his well, asking for money from his son, 884 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: who he loudly claimed that he'd rather see passed away. 885 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: I truly can't comprehend the gears in his gee heead 886 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: what little did he know? He poked me at the 887 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: worst moment possible. Oh you don't want to poke opop 888 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: will go? 889 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 2: Oh. 890 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: I was still grieving from a lost friend, and I 891 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: ripped him a new one detailing things. I didn't even 892 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: know where it came from. I was mentally checked out 893 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: when my mouth did the work, and towards the end 894 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: I cracked my voice a little. He tried to argue 895 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: a bit, but after my aunt and cousin showed up 896 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: they lived nearby, he bolted last month. I haven't heard 897 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: from him since now that I care. Anyway, work is 898 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: busy and I have Lunar New Year to prepare for. 899 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: By the way, you can prepare for listening to us 900 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: every single second of every day by just going to 901 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,280 Speaker 1: our podcast and taping Okay Storytime wherever your podcast Spotify, 902 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: Apple podcasts. You can listen while doing other stuff. True, dad, 903 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: But there's a little relevant update that I'm just gonna 904 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: drive right into. 905 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 2: Oh. I was just gonna say really quick, kind of 906 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 2: shocking that the dad was like, I know my son 907 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: has crippled me, or tried to cripple me financially, cast 908 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 2: me out of the family. But I'm gonna go ask 909 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 2: him for money. That don't work. 910 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: You sometimes every shot you don't take is a shot missed. 911 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, oh he's not missing any shots. 912 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: Oh he's not missing any shots. Neitherre's the dad that 913 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: the dad's taken every shot. He's missing a lot, but 914 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 1: he's taking every shot. 915 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 2: Oh, he's hitting all the shots. The dad is missing, 916 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 2: maybe every single one. 917 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: I'll admit that encounter didn't do me any good. It stings, 918 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: to be honest, having your father prioritiz a child that's 919 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: not even his over his son and daughter. I've had 920 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: sleepless nights over it, trying to think of a good reason. 921 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: Maybe something we did, or something in his life that 922 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: was so unsatisfying that he had to seek it elsewhere 923 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: and not within his own family. I've come to accept that. 924 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: Even though I always say I'm over it, deep down, 925 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm still hoping for Rian, hoping that one day he 926 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: will come to his sentences and try to make amends. 927 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: It's a long shot, but I hope for such a day. 928 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm not letting my guard down for one second. If 929 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 1: anything happens, I'm more vindictive than ever. 930 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 2: Scared, but I have hopes. I'm frightened. I'm frightened for 931 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 2: the day God more happens because Opi, Oh my god, 932 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 2: Oh Pi scares me. Opie scares me. 933 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: Opie is a little little little Cray Cray, a little 934 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: little Cray Cray. 935 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 2: But but if you had OPI on your side. 936 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing that OPI wouldn't do for you, 937 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: you know. Here, question question for chat question. I kind 938 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: of have a policy of like if someone is super vindictive, 939 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: I kind of like am a little scared to be 940 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: friends with them because and that was actually one of 941 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: the reasons that the last person I was like seeing, 942 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: like I'm like, oh, I don't know if like I 943 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: want to keep seeing them was because they were super vindictive. 944 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: Hella loyal and like super hard working, great in a 945 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 1: lot of ways, but like, like I feel like when 946 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: you're too vindictive, I'm just worried that's going to be 947 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: be thrust upon me at some point, you know. 948 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well it's like when you talk to people and 949 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 2: they're like, oh, I've dropped all of my friends and 950 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 2: like or or they are always talking about this person 951 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: that they hate and they're really trying to you know, 952 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 2: it's just like it's. 953 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: All Yeah, I feel like I feel like vindictiveness is 954 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: one of like I think it's like a not that 955 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: great of equality because you never know when that that 956 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: will flip around to you. Yeah, well and it will, 957 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: it will flip around to you because no one's perfect. 958 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: You probably, you know, make someone unhappy at some point, 959 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: and if they're vindictive, like they're going, you know that 960 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: that power will be put to you. So yeah, I'm 961 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: a little wary of it. But I'm curious what you 962 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: guys think. Is vindictiveness a good quality or not? Yes, 963 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: Kaitl Van Campus says it's a character trait. It'll come 964 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: back to you no matter how good of friends you are. 965 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it says it's valid to be concerned over that trait. However, 966 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 2: if you own up your own mistakes, then you should 967 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 2: be fine. I yes, but I do think with some 968 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 2: people they aren't forget, like they hold grudges. So even 969 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 2: if you do own up to your mistake, they're not 970 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: going to forgive you. Like there's no like three strikes. 971 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 2: It's just like one thing and you're like, oh go on. 972 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 2: Pinky Disslayer says, most people who have wronged me, no, 973 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 2: don't speak to me. I don't necessarily think I'm vindictive, 974 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 2: but I am very petty. And Nicole Lynn says, if 975 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 2: they are constantly vindicted forward to me, then one person, 976 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 2: yeah run. But if they speak vindictively about just one person, 977 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 2: and only one person. They may be a nice person 978 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 2: who's finally pushed too far. 979 00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: That is true. That is true. 980 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 2: It's just seeing they behave, just watching that behavior. Of course,