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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: I'm back with Raymond Hicks, highly decorated deputy with the

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Speaker 2: Broward County Sheriff's Department, framed by his crooked colleagues for

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Speaker 2: a dope dealing and went to prison for about sixteen

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Speaker 2: and a half months while he was awaiting his day

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Speaker 2: in court. And we'll get to all of that. His

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Speaker 2: book is I'm Still Standing, and he's got a website.

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Speaker 2: We've hooked up to it at Coast tocoastam dot com.

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Speaker 2: So just go to tonight's show and click on Raymond's

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Speaker 2: name and it'll take you right there and you can

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Speaker 2: order the book there as well. It's a remarkable story.

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Speaker 2: So before the break, Raymond, we were talking about the

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Speaker 2: actual bust where you're at home, minding your own business

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, this swat team, some sixty

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Speaker 2: cops with their guns drawn, burst into the house. They're

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Speaker 2: pointing guns at you and your small children, and I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know these guys, right, and they're pretending like like, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're you're some criminal and you and they

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Speaker 2: won't tell you what they what. They're arresting you for.

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Speaker 3: That is correct, mister Richard. They never told me what

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Speaker 3: they was arrested me for, and it's a and it's

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Speaker 3: a good thing that they didn't tell me because they

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Speaker 3: probably would have killed me that day, because you know,

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Speaker 3: I ain't never been in trouble in my entire life,

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Speaker 3: and I endeavored it. Never tried drugs in my entire life,

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Speaker 3: never tried a marijuana cigarette or a joint, which is

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Speaker 3: what they referred to as the marijuana cigarette. I never

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Speaker 3: took a drink a day in my life, and it's

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Speaker 3: just amazing to me how all this stuff unfold. So

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Speaker 3: of course Dave Robshaw said, we're gonna play Shawing suspension,

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Speaker 3: pining the outcome of this case. I said, what case?

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Speaker 3: And they still wouldn't discuss anything with me. So of

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Speaker 3: course this black gentman named Bernard Brown took me and

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Speaker 3: put me in the cruiser and transported me over to

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Speaker 3: Dishrect five. When I ride at District five, I'm still

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Speaker 3: asking questions, you know, what did I do? Why am

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Speaker 3: I here? Well, I, well, we can't discuss it, and

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Speaker 3: of course they booked me in there. They later took

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Speaker 3: me over to the city jail. So when I rived

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Speaker 3: to the city jail, from the county, from the district,

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Speaker 3: from the county. I'm still asking questions about why the

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Speaker 3: booking me in. I'm like, you know, what are you

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Speaker 3: guys booking me for? What did I do? So they

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Speaker 3: placed me in solitary confinement and I was there for

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours. Max.

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Speaker 2: Wait a second, you're in solitary confinement twenty four hours?

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Speaker 2: Have they have they given you your phone call? Have

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Speaker 2: they read you your Miranda rights?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, no, they never read me my brand.

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Speaker 3: They never mirandazed me when they came to my house

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Speaker 3: and when I got there as they was looking me in,

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Speaker 3: they never gave me no phone call. And they put

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Speaker 3: me in solitary confinements for almost twenty four hours. And

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Speaker 3: it wasn't until the next morning the marshal shows up

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Speaker 3: and I said, whoa, the marshals, what are you guys

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Speaker 3: here for? We're here to take you to court. I

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Speaker 3: said for what what did I do? Well, you know,

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Speaker 3: we can't discuss. So they handcuffed me and shackled me

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Speaker 3: and transported me. They put me in an unmarked cruiser

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Speaker 3: and they transported me over to the federal courthouse. And

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Speaker 3: when I got there, my wife and my mom was

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Speaker 3: in the courtroom sitting there waiting, you know, as I'm

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Speaker 3: being rained, and the prosecutor the DA she said, well,

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Speaker 3: mister Hickson, is that work. He's in the top ten

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Speaker 3: percent of his department. But when he's not at work,

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Speaker 3: he's into the other correctly activity. So I'm looking at

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Speaker 3: my mother and my wife's not like, what is this

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Speaker 3: woman talking about? And that's when she proffered to the courts.

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Speaker 3: She said, I went to the I went to Barra

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Speaker 3: States to live in three hundred and fifty kilograms of cocaine.

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Speaker 3: That was according to seven hundred and fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: So the judge said, well, mister Hicks, you know you're

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Speaker 3: not a flight risk because I didn't have a passport

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Speaker 3: at the time. But she said, I'm I'm a minister society.

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Speaker 2: She called you a menace to society, highly graded officer,

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Speaker 2: You're a menaceter society.

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Speaker 3: I'm a minister society. So you know, I literally busted

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Speaker 3: So the Marsians came in. They escorted me back down

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Speaker 3: there's about five other guys that was arrested along with

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking that they said something that caused me

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Speaker 3: to be there, mister Richard, I'm I'm on the head

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Speaker 2: So what they they accused you. The charge was that

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Speaker 2: you had across state lines, you had sold three hundred

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Speaker 2: did you say seventy five million?

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Speaker 3: No, seven hundred and fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Seven and fifty million. Now when when they did?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: At that very moment, I'm being I'm being like, this

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Speaker 3: But I thought, I thought the guys that was arrested

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Speaker 3: to be there, and I'm getting ready to fight with

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Speaker 3: all of them. And they was like no, man, big

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Speaker 3: kicks you wrong. Man? You ready, you're ready to fight

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Speaker 3: with us? Man, We haven't did nothing this this is

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Speaker 3: your department. And I come to find out later that

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Speaker 3: what they were saying was true. So what happened? If

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Speaker 3: I back up for one second, mister Richard in Tonto,

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Speaker 3: faars has a fiduciary duty, sir, and you can act

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Speaker 3: anyone that's in law enforcement. They have to call you

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Speaker 3: in and give you a gavage statement to determine whether

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Speaker 3: or not you committed any crimes. So they swear you in.

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Speaker 3: It's audio, it's an audio and video recording. And at

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Speaker 3: no time did the Briar Sheriff Office in Toronto Pairs

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Speaker 3: They ever called me in and asked me anything related

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Speaker 3: to me going to all these varied states. And you're

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Speaker 3: going to learn later that I didn't go to these

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Speaker 3: battered states. I'm at work, sir, So of course there

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Speaker 3: I am locked up at the Federal Detention Center in Miami,

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Speaker 3: faced for natural life imprisonment.

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Speaker 2: You're facing natural life imprisonment. What you get a public

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Speaker 2: you get a court appointed attorney and he wants you

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Speaker 2: to he wants you to plea right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So they give me one attorney. You know, for

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Speaker 3: the point of the attorney, He said, ray you know

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Speaker 3: this is affairs. He says, got a ninety eight point

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Speaker 3: eight percent convictorate. I told him, I said, God got

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Speaker 3: a convictorate of zero percent. And I told him, I said, Man,

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Speaker 3: not do. And I told him, I said, well, where's

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Speaker 3: the evidence. Well, I don't know, Ray. I said, well,

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Speaker 3: then you need to go check and get back with me. Man.

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Speaker 2: So, of course, if you had compt the plea, excuse me, Raymond,

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Speaker 2: if you had, if you had accepted the plea deal,

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Speaker 2: what would the sentence have been.

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Speaker 3: If I accepted. Well, they came to me and offered

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Speaker 3: me a plea, and I told him, I said, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm not. That was after being a concentrate for almost

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Speaker 3: eleven eleven eleven and a half months, mister Richard. But

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Speaker 3: but me taking the plea would admit that I was

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Speaker 3: guilty of what they accused me of, and my life

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Speaker 3: would have been ruined.

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Speaker 3: And I told him, I said, no, I'm like, I'd

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Speaker 3: rather take life imprisonment. I'm not going to go in

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Speaker 3: there and admit the something that I didn't do. My

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Speaker 3: mother told him. She said, I put my head up

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Speaker 3: on a chopping block, and you can take my head

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Speaker 3: off if you can show me that that young man

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Speaker 3: committed these crimes. He ain't never did, he ain't never

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Speaker 3: been in trouble before. And of course they could have

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Speaker 3: told the court point attorney. He decided that he was

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Speaker 3: going to get off the case. He says, ray on

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Speaker 3: the manuscript, write down everything that happened to you, because

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Speaker 3: this could possibly be a best seller book, may do

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Speaker 3: a movie. And he told the judge, you said you, honor,

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Speaker 3: I don't want nothing else to do with this case.

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Speaker 3: Then they gave me another quarter point of the attorney.

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Speaker 3: He tried to force me to take time on the

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Speaker 3: comhersion rage. This is the fairs. I told him, I

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Speaker 3: of attorney. I'm gonna tell you the same thing. I'm

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Speaker 3: not taking anything man. And there was time that I

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Speaker 3: really wanted to come across that table at tear his

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Speaker 3: head off his body, mister Richard, because he was trying

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Speaker 3: to force me to take time, you know, for something

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Speaker 3: that I didn't do. And what people don't realize, there's

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Speaker 3: avoid fatally increase me hearted sentence because they cannot afford

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Speaker 3: these high powered lawyers, and they take a plea because

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Speaker 3: especially when you at the fans, sir, this fairs got

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Speaker 3: a ninety eight point eight percent conviction rate. That means

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Speaker 3: that it's only two percent of one point five percent

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Speaker 3: of the individuess that's locked up. It's probably gonna see

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Speaker 2: So we don't have a much time here. So eventually,

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Speaker 2: though you got rid of this, you fixed his wagon

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Speaker 2: as well. You got rid of this court appointed attorney

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Speaker 2: and your I guess your wife had some savings and

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Speaker 2: she managed to hire you finally, a competent, accomplished defense lawyer.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, my wife went through her first savings and

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Speaker 3: she got a former prosecutor, you know, and who had

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Speaker 3: never lost a case in fifteen years. And when he

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Speaker 3: came to visit me, he said, if I've never seen

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Speaker 3: an innocent man, you one of them, and you shouldn't

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Speaker 3: be here. But I must mention to you, mister Richard,

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Speaker 3: but I was there, incncrated man. They put me in

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Speaker 3: a hole for five months, total darkness, twenty three hours

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Speaker 3: a day in solitary confinement, and then they later placed

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Speaker 3: me down in general population, which is a death threat

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Speaker 2: And I put you in general population hoping that somebody

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Speaker 2: would take a run at you.

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Speaker 3: Exactly. You can't take a cop and put him in GP.

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Speaker 3: You can't put him in general population. That's a death threat,

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Speaker 3: you know. And I literally tried to beat this one

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Speaker 3: black guy to death. Man, he saw my pitcher parade

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Speaker 3: over the Newscapta and say he hated Ethan cops. And

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Speaker 3: from the hood, he said, man, you know what that is.

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Speaker 3: That's Dick Hicks. Man. You're tripping man. He gonna thump man.

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Speaker 3: He come from where we come from. And I literally

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Speaker 3: tried to kill him, mister Richard, I tried to put

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Speaker 3: my fist through his brains.

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Speaker 2: Man, you saved another prisoner's life while you were in prison.

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Speaker 2: You saved another prisoner's life while you were in prison.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct. So what happened was there was a

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Speaker 3: black gentleman who who was shot in his head. Many

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Speaker 3: years proud of him being arrested, but and you know,

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Speaker 3: serving time with me and of course, I'm in my

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Speaker 3: room and I heard somebody say, dig homean dig homie,

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Speaker 2: So the the corrupt cops, the dirty cops with the

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Speaker 3: Oh? They really they wanted missus Richard. You can't take

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Speaker 2: But you survived, and you got your day in court eventually,

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Speaker 3: After sixteen and a half months, I took my case

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Speaker 3: So he said, so he slammed the gabble and called

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Speaker 2: Except okay, so right now, I just want to back

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Speaker 3: Him, you're talking you referred to and sell Pratt. Sol

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Speaker 3: Pratt was arrested January first of two thousand and he

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Speaker 3: he was arrested by the bron Sheaff office. But that's

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Speaker 3: the same individual that the bron Shaff office tried to

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Speaker 3: He also said that on December twenty fourth and nineteen

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Speaker 2: Liar I ever met Did you ever hear of ensel

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Speaker 2: So it's just some random career criminal that they pull

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Speaker 3: That's correct. They gave him fifteen thousand, and they gave

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Speaker 2: To lie to lie, and that's their case.

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Speaker 3: That's their case. That's their case. That's their case.

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Speaker 3: They were hoping that either I get either either I

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Speaker 3: That's what they was making on mister Richard. They thought

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