1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: Welcome in we have it feels like we got a 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: lot of awful stories sometimes that stack up, and today 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: is one of them. For many of you on the 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: West Coast. I'm Clay Travis, He's Bock Sexton. We are 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: here with you for the next three hours trying to 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: bring sense to an otherwise insane world. 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you spending your time with us. 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: As we sit here counting down the days until Donald 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: Trump is inaugurated and takes back control of the United 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: States government. There continues to be activity on Capitol Hill, 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: a Republican speaker and a Republican Senate. We will break 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: down the latest there. There's interesting moving parts. But as 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure many of you have been paying attention to 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: since yesterday evening when wildfire started and then the winds 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: kicked up, there is just an awful situation in LA. 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: Lots of homes being burned down, many people being put 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: in incredible peril, and we certainly are following that. We 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: know many of you probably are listening on your radios 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: in the Los Angeles area to us right now aware 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: of everything that is awful that is taking place in 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: so many different communities out there. But we've talked about this before, Buck, 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: But I went away to college in Washington, d C. 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: I've lived in Nashville for the vast majority of my life. 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: But the city that I've probably spent the most time in, 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: certainly over the last fifteen years or so, other than 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: my home, is Los Angeles. I have a ton of 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: friends out there. I've spent a great deal of time 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: working at Fox Sports, variety of different television programs, many 31 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: amazing friends and family that live in that area now, 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: and so I know these area as well. I know 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,279 Speaker 2: you've spent a decent amount of time in Los Angeles also. 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: But for those of you out there that might not 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: be paying as much attention or have not had the 36 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: news on this morning, let me give you a little 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: bit of an update here from the press conferences that 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: have recently occurred. This is La County Fire Chief Marony 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: Anthony Moroney explaining there's over five thousand acres burned, no 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: containment that has happened so far, still two thousand acres burning. 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: Listen to this as what it sounds like. This is 42 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: the latest in Los Angeles, La County. 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: The Palisades Fire is located in both La City and 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: La County. We have well over five thousand acres that 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: have burned and the fire is growing. We have no 46 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: percentage of containment. 47 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 4: We have an. 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: Estimated one thousand structures destroyed and also no reported fatalities 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: and a high number of significant injuries to residents who 50 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: did not evacuate, in addition to first responders who are 51 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: on the fire line. For the Eton fire, it is 52 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: located in both the Angelus National Forest, the Alta Dina 53 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: area of La County, and Pasadena. We have over two 54 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: thousand acres burning at this time and the fire continues 55 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: to grow with zero percent containment, and unfortunately, we have 56 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: two reported fatalities to civilians. 57 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: So that is the absolute latest. That was just in 58 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: a press conference. Here is the CBS News National correspondent 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: Jonathan Vigliati explaining what exactly he is seeing in terms 60 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: of how rapidly this fire has been spreading because the 61 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: winds are so strong and so significant, carrying the flames 62 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: so many different directions. Listen to cuttoo. 63 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 5: We're here at the heart of the Pacific polisdays in 64 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 5: a neighborhood that is a total loss. You've got a 65 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 5: home here. I'm going to flip over here, another home loss. 66 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 5: Let me go over this way. Homes own this street gone, 67 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 5: this one completely leveled. The firefighters here, they're not trying 68 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 5: to save these structures. They're trying to prevent these flames 69 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 5: from jumping to other neighborhoods. To see all these efforts, 70 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 5: in some cases, they're being carried more than a mile 71 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 5: in advance of these source flames, lighting other homes on fire. 72 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: So Buck, we'll get into some of the responses that 73 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: have not been occurring at a level that Los Angeles 74 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: residents deserve here in a little bit. But for right now, 75 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: it's a true calamity that is befalling the nation's second 76 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: biggest city, and it is getting worse. It would appear 77 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: right now before it's going to get better, given the 78 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: winds are still whipping around my understanding this morning in 79 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: Los Angeles in a fairly significant way. 80 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 6: It's horrific, Clay, and people are able to see so 81 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 6: many different perspectives of this because of the instant connectivity 82 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 6: that we all have. The videos from inside of living 83 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 6: rooms as there are flames, you know, lapping at the 84 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 6: at the fence nearby, or at the pool nearby, from 85 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 6: people's homes. 86 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 7: It's very visceral. 87 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 6: All all feels too real for people who are just 88 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 6: observing this because of the ability that we have to 89 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 6: get those those real time images. The actor James Woods, 90 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 6: I don't know if you saw this. He had just 91 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 6: I believe, just finished construction on a home in the area, 92 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 6: and he had video that he shared of the flames 93 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 6: right right off his deck. I mean, this is what 94 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 6: people are dealing with, and he's not sure what the status, 95 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 6: you know, Thoughts and prayers to James and his wife 96 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 6: and family. I think James and his wife are fine, 97 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 6: based on what I've seen on acts. They got out. 98 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 6: But people have lost homes, They've lost everything in the homes, 99 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 6: thousands of them, and it's it's a tragic. It's a 100 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 6: tragic situation that's playing out. And I understand that, you know, 101 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 6: we don't want to politicize things. You don't want to 102 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 6: move into the Okay, a bad thing happens. 103 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 7: Now, let me find some. 104 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 6: Way to assert how this fits into my own political framework. 105 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 6: But I think you also have to look at this 106 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 6: responsibly and say, is los Angeles prepared for this kind 107 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 6: of a situation, um, just a natural disaster. Is there 108 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 6: Forestry management in the state of California still a huge problem. 109 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 6: There are clips of Trump talking about this from years 110 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 6: ago where he's like, they're doing a terrible job. They 111 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 6: won't clear the underbrush because of the environmentalists, and then 112 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 6: it just burns too hot and too fast and it's 113 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 6: too dangerous. I mean there's and I even gotten to 114 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 6: the mayor of. 115 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: Last what I think we should play. The mayor of 116 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: Los Angeles is gone. For those of you out there 117 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: who do not know, there was a highly contested mayoral 118 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: race in Los Angeles between two Democrats. So this is 119 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: a Democrat battle, Rick Caruso, who is a very successful 120 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: billionaire developer, and Karen Bass. Karen Bass won. She's in Ghana. 121 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in a sect. Yes, Africa right 122 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: now watching the Ghana East president be inaugurated supposedly, so 123 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: she's not even a present. But here is Rick Caruso saying, 124 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: this is on Fox eleven News, that there's no water 125 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: coming out of the fire hydrants. They have not done 126 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: the appropriate prep to be able to handle something like this. 127 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: Listen to cut five. 128 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 8: What is most concerning to me is our first responders, 129 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 8: in our firefighters who are trying to battle this. There's 130 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 8: no water in the Palifate. There's no water coming out 131 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 8: of the fire hydrant. This is an absolute mismanagement by 132 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 8: the city, not the firefighter's fault, but it's other city. 133 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 8: And I'm going to be very honest. We've got a 134 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 8: mayor that's out of the country, and we've got a 135 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 8: city that's burning, and there's no resources to put out fires. 136 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 8: So if you look at your pictures, you don't see 137 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 8: the firefighters there because there's nothing they can do. It 138 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 8: looks like we're in a third world country here. 139 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: That's Rick Caruso buck again, highly contested mayoral battle, the 140 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: current mayor of Los Angeles not there, supposedly flying back 141 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: from Africa. But what he's talking about. Rick Caruso, for 142 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: those of you who don't know, ran basically as a 143 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: Rudy Giuliani Michael Bloomberg esque character, right while he was 144 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: more Republican, a little bit to the right, but still 145 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: many in many ways having to appeal to a Democrat base. 146 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: But this is and I know, and by the way, 147 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: if you are dealing with these fires right now, and 148 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: you are listening to us, and you want to tell 149 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: us what you are seeing. Eight hundred and two eight 150 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: two two eight a two. We have a huge LA 151 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: Area audience. I would like to hear from people there. 152 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: And to Rick Caruso's point, Buck, there are tons of 153 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: people out there. 154 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 9: I know. 155 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: We've got a clip of the actor Steve Gutenberg, who 156 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: I saw out on the street trying to help people, 157 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: trying to get people safe. Let's play that cut too. 158 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: There are tons of amazing people out there, but the infrastructure, 159 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: as Rick Caruso just said, is not allowing the good 160 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: people to do the most good. In other words, much 161 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: of the government is getting in the way of the 162 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: better instincts of so many people. Here's Steve Gutenberg one 163 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: more clip from on the ground talking about the challenges 164 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 2: in Pacific Palisades. 165 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 10: Here on Palisades Drive, if anybody has a car and 166 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 10: they leave their car, leave the keys in the car 167 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 10: so that we can move your car, so that these 168 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 10: fire trucks can get up Palisades Drive. What's happening is 169 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 10: people take their keys with them as if they're in 170 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 10: a parking lot. This is not a parking lot. We 171 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 10: really need people to move their cars. So if you 172 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 10: leave your car in Palisades Drive, leave the key in 173 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 10: there so a guy like me can move your car 174 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 10: and get them up there, so that so that these 175 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 10: fire trucks can get up there. 176 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 8: It's really really important. 177 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. 178 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 7: For talking to us live sir. What's her name? My 179 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 7: name is Steve Gutenberg. 180 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: Steve this area. 181 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 10: I live in the area. I live right up the hill, 182 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 10: and thank goodness, but I have friends up there right 183 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 10: now and they can't evacuate because it's stuck on Kalisa's drive. 184 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: So that is the actor many people will know buck 185 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: Steve Gutenberg, which he's not even you know, he's just 186 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: trying to help his community. But it is that clip 187 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: woind viral. You can see him standing amidst the fire, 188 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: trying to help people out and evacuate people who need help. 189 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 6: And I think that this is it's worth noting that 190 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 6: this is not the first of these kinds of fires 191 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 6: in even recent years. I mean, you can go back 192 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 6: and what was that I'm looking here, Clay at in 193 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 6: twenty twenty there were really rough yeah, you know, wildfires 194 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 6: out by this way. I mean, this is you know, 195 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 6: this is a fire season that this may be the 196 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 6: worst of any individual fire, but rough fire seasons have 197 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 6: been happening for years, and there is an issue of 198 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 6: forestry management and resources because they're putting right, if the 199 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 6: state of California is spending as they are, millions and millions, 200 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 6: I think they've even put you know, in the billions 201 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 6: toward this over time. Yeah, since twenty eleven, this was 202 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 6: from twenty twenty, they've spent six hundred million dollars on 203 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 6: fire prevention efforts. Now, so you could assume now it's 204 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 6: gone up considerably. It's probably over a billion dollars on 205 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 6: fire prevention. And you say, well, what have they been 206 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 6: able to accomplish with this? When the mayor is gone 207 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 6: and when there's no water in the no water for 208 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 6: the fire hoses from the hydrants, and the evac efforts 209 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 6: are hamstrung by a lack of necessary personnel. What are 210 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 6: people supposed to say? I've also seen, and this is troubling, 211 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 6: just to add on to all of this, that people 212 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 6: lost their fire coverage. 213 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 7: Have you seen this play? 214 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 6: There's these comments online at least people have lost fire 215 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 6: coverage for their houses in just the months before this. 216 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so people. 217 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 6: There are going to be people who have Now, you know, 218 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 6: this is where does the federal government declare there's some 219 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 6: kind of a national emergency situation. I mean, what ends 220 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 6: up or if you a federal emergency situation, what ends 221 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 6: up happening here remains to be seen. 222 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 7: But it's a disaster. 223 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 6: It's a mess, and if you know, first and foremost 224 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 6: thoughts in perse everybody affected by it, and we hope 225 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 6: everybody gets out safe, and then I think there does 226 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 6: need to be a conversation about accountability for the state authorities, 227 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 6: not the firefighters who are out there risking their lives 228 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 6: and taking in smoke and everything. By all accounts, they've 229 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 6: been doing incredible work. And the fire teams they have 230 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 6: are are phenomenal that are trying to fight these things 231 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 6: and trying to, you know, prevent this from getting even 232 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 6: worse than it is. But at the top management level 233 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 6: of dealing with really it's a forestry issue, right, I mean, 234 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 6: that's what it comes down to. I think more than 235 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 6: anything else, the dry kindling, the tinder, and the underbrush. 236 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 6: Are they spending enough time on this? Are they bowing 237 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 6: to the environmentalist concerns that just demand you don't touch stuff. 238 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 6: Those are valid questions when people are turning around and 239 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 6: looking at how could something like this happen and get 240 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 6: so out of control? 241 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: No doubt, and we're going to continue to take your calls. 242 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: We'll play some of these cuts again. To Buck's point, 243 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: this was a very foreseeable tragedy, and are the people 244 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: of Los Angeles being served by the best possible representatives 245 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 2: that could be dealing with this tragedy right now? I 246 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: think the answer is no. And certainly the mayor didn't 247 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: know this was going to happen. But why in the 248 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: world is the mayor of Los Angeles that an African 249 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: inauguration ceremony? 250 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 7: Yeah? 251 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 6: I mean I would just also say, Clay, we know 252 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 6: that California is on a major fault line. You know, 253 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 6: I if California had a I didn't they just had 254 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 6: an earthquake pretty recently, right, But if California had a 255 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 6: relatively modern earthquake and entire buildings were collapsing because the 256 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 6: code didn't actually have them prepared for it, that would 257 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 6: be a lack of preparation, right. I mean, just because 258 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 6: something's a natural disaster, it doesn't mean that you can't say, well, 259 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 6: hold on a second, did you you know in Florida 260 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 6: we're prepared for hurricanes all the time. Doesn't mean that 261 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 6: it's going to be perfect. Obviously, you do the best 262 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 6: you can with the response, but you gotta be ready. 263 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: When Rick Caruso is saying that all of our fire 264 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: hydrants don't have actual, you know, water in them, I. 265 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 6: Mean it seems reasonable that the fire hydrants, yeah, should 266 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 6: have water in them. 267 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 7: That seems reasonable. 268 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 6: I want to know why that, Why they don't have that, 269 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 6: why they haven't collected the water for that. All right, 270 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 6: we'll take some of your calls on this. 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We're 290 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 6: talking about these terrible wildfires out in Los Angeles area, 291 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 6: Pacific Palisades, very well known, a very beautiful area, very 292 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 6: well known area to people that know the. 293 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 7: Los Angeles terrain. 294 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 6: A lot of incredibly beautiful homes, a lot of people 295 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 6: and the community there have been there for a long time. 296 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 6: Somebody who's not there right now on our way back, 297 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 6: I believe, is the mayor of Los Angeles, Mayor Karen Bass. 298 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 6: This is Fox eleven reporting on this, saying, while Los 299 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 6: Angeles is burning, the mayor, as Clay pointed out, is 300 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 6: in Ghana, Africa. 301 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 7: Play it. 302 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 11: You're wondering where is La Mayor Karen Bass. She's been 303 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 11: in Ghana, so she's apparently on her way back. That's 304 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 11: why we have not seen her on the scene. We 305 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 11: saw Governor Newsom at the scene earlier. We know that 306 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 11: President Biden happens to be in town, but we have 307 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 11: not seen him on camera. 308 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: With all of this, I mean, Biden anywhere near my lames, 309 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: I don't know they can get away. 310 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 6: I think they know that no one, not a person 311 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 6: on the planet, would feel better with some Biden with 312 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 6: his aviators on and a mask photo op right now, So. 313 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 7: I think I don't think they're going to do that. 314 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 6: You've seen Gavin Newsom, though he's starting to, you know, 315 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 6: as if him taking a photo of himself staring at 316 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 6: the fires from a distance makes anyone feel better. 317 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 7: This guy has mismanaged the state of California. I always 318 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 7: say it. I love it. 319 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 6: It's paradise in so many ways except for the politics, 320 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 6: except for the people in charge. 321 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you mentioned that Buck. 322 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: I was out driving around looking at Christmas lights with 323 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: my kids in the car recently in my neighborhood where 324 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: I live in Nashville area. Just recently in the last 325 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: year and a half two years, you have suddenly seen 326 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: USC and UCLA flags going up all over my neighborhood. 327 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: Californians are overwhelmingly saying I'm out. I can't deal with 328 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: what they're doing there anymore. And you see it, like 329 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: just with the teams that they root for out of nowhere, 330 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: we started seeing maybe the last basically since COVID happened, 331 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 2: people have been bailing on California. In fact, I got 332 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: some data. Maybe we'll hit you with it later in 333 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: the show. Did you see the U haul data on 334 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: what states people are leaving and what states people are 335 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: moving to? I thought it was interesting. Spoiler alert, California 336 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: for a fourth straight year leads the nation in people 337 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: leaving that state to go somewhere new. 338 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, oh, that hasn't changed. 339 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 6: We want to take some of your calls on this 340 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 6: eight hundred two two eight eight two. 341 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: Once something's on the Internet, it can be impossible nearly 342 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: to get it removed. 343 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: That includes your personal data. 344 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: If a cyber attacker get hold of your data tries 345 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: to use one or more of your accounts for their 346 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: own selfish game, that's online identity theft. 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Comedian, 365 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: He's going to be on with us at the top 366 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: of the next hour to actually tell us what he 367 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: has been seeing. I've seen his tweets he is in 368 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: close proximity to some of these fires, so we will 369 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: get the latest from there. By the way, several of 370 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: you calling in and want to explain we're we're asking 371 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: a question. I think it's a legit question. Unfortunately, one 372 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: that is hyper important at this point in time. You 373 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: have fire hydrants with no actual water in them. According 374 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: to the man who was runner up for the mayor 375 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: of Los Angeles, who would we played that audio for 376 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 2: you just a little bit ago, Jim and Megalia, California. 377 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: You work for a water company up in that area 378 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: near where the Paradise fire happened. Why would the fire 379 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: hydrants not have water? According to Rick Caruso, who was 380 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: nearly elected the mayor of of La Area, what happened. 381 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 4: Well, what we experienced here was that all the structures 382 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 4: that burnt those were basically services that were wide open, 383 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 4: just running onto the ground. And then all the customers 384 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 4: that had put sprinklers on their roofs or whatever else 385 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 4: to try to prevent their house from burning out, they 386 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 4: had their services open. So you have water means that 387 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 4: are sized to feed the population plus fire prevention, but 388 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: all that together it overruns the system. 389 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: So it, they just drained. 390 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: Your theory is that they have that some of the 391 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: people who are trying to keep their houses from being 392 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: burned down have just drained the entire water reservoir system 393 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: for lack of a better way of describing it, in 394 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: that area, so that there is no water for the 395 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: firemen to be able to basically pull out. 396 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: Yes, and with like with the town of Paradise losing 397 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: over fourteen thousand structures, they were throwing five million gallons 398 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 4: a day at the system and it was just bleeding 399 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 4: out throughout all the empty services. So there was, you know, 400 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: nothing that the firefighters could have done because there's there's 401 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 4: no water there. And it's not anybody's fault. It's just 402 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: what do you do put? You know, thirty six inch 403 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 4: water means down little streets. That doesn't That doesn't make 404 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: any sense. 405 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 6: Jim, what do you make of Jam? I've got a question, 406 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 6: what do you make of the criticisms? I mean, for example, 407 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 6: we've got Trump put this out, he said. Governor Gavin Newscomb. Sorry, 408 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 6: I'm just reading what This is what the president wrote, 409 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 6: so you know that this is what he wrote. 410 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 7: Anyway, Governor Gavin. 411 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 6: Newscomb refused to sign the water Restoration Declaration put before 412 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 6: him that would have allowed millions of gallons of water 413 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 6: from excess rain and snow melt from the north to 414 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 6: float daily into many parts of California, including the areas 415 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 6: that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way. Is 416 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 6: water mismanagement, from what you can see, a major problem 417 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 6: just leading up to I mean, not just because of 418 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 6: this event we're seeing, but is that just generally the 419 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 6: case that the state of California is mismanaging water. 420 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 4: I think there is some mismanagement, but you know, it 421 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 4: can come down to you know, infrastructure repair and all that. 422 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 4: But that doesn't seem to be the case in this 423 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: In this instance, it doesn't seem like that the infrastructure 424 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 4: is failing. It just seems like there's just no water 425 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 4: because it's just bleeding out somewhere else. I don't think 426 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 4: that the water company they'll have to investigate to make 427 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: sure they had you know, power generators that they're pumping 428 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: stations to keep water going while the fire is in place. 429 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 4: But it's, like I say, I think it's just. 430 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 6: Just it sounds like you're telling us it's just too 431 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 6: I mean, this fire is too big, too fast, and 432 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 6: you're gonna run out of water. I mean, there's just 433 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 6: no realistic way to have enough water to fight this. 434 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 7: Is that fair? 435 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 4: That's yeah, that's what That's what we encountered here in 436 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: the Paradise Micguellia area was it was just it overrun us. 437 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: It was just too much to try to keep up with. 438 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 6: Thank you so much, Jim for calling in bringing that 439 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 6: expertise from working at the water company. 440 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 7: And stay safe up there in California. Thank you. 441 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 6: Craig in Columbia, South Carolina, used to live in so 442 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 6: cal what's up, Craig. 443 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 9: Well, thank you, but thank you Buckley, take it by call. 444 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 9: I lived in Burbank, California, graduated Burbank High which is 445 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 9: in right next to what's called the Verdugo Hill which 446 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 9: periodically caught on fire. And the issue is La City 447 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 9: was written up by the La Times within the last 448 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 9: couple of years, where water leaks from their pipes eight 449 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 9: billion gallons of water a year and nothing has been 450 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 9: done to fix that infrastructure. They were at that time. 451 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 9: The issue was how do we retain the water we have? 452 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 9: And they came up with something called shade balls, and 453 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 9: I suggest you look up with that nonsense. But the 454 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 9: reaction is they lack water every year. If you notice 455 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 9: that the rose bowl that it's always tends to be 456 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 9: clear air every year from probably early December to late February, 457 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 9: they have a condition called Santa Ana winds, which blows 458 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 9: at about somewhere between a low of thirty miles an 459 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 9: hour coming down the canyons from the desert, to as 460 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 9: much as seventy miles an hour. I used to be 461 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 9: a flight instructor in the place called Silmar, and we 462 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 9: took off at this time of year to the north 463 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 9: because that's where the winds came from, and I could 464 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 9: take off in a small Sessma. Usually took off at 465 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 9: about seventy miles an hour and actually fly backwards over 466 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 9: the ground after I took off. Oh wow, the winds 467 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 9: book Yeah, yeah, the wind blow that strong below the canyon. 468 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 9: So if you have a fire, okay, how do you 469 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 9: get water there? 470 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 4: You can't? 471 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: Craig, why did you leave? Why did you leave Southern California? 472 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: You live in Columbia, South Carolina. You moved across the 473 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: whole country. Sounds like you love the place. It's a 474 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: beautiful place. Why was your decision made to leave a 475 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: lot of Californians. In the last four or five years, 476 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: in unprecedented numbers have been moving elsewhere. You particular why. 477 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 9: I left in nineteen eighty eight job issues. I was 478 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 9: at the point of my career where I was working 479 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 9: in banking, and I have one career next. My next 480 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 9: career job was to go back to work in the headquarters, 481 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 9: and I detested that, so I left banking completely. I 482 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 9: went to work for my largest customer, who had a 483 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 9: plant in Mississippi. So I moved and people around me. 484 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 9: I lived on the beach. 485 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I bet there's not a lot 486 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: of people who moved from a beach in California to Mississippi. 487 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: I'm just guessing that's not a traditional travel path. 488 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 9: My friends thought I had lost my mind. Trust me, 489 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 9: they all said, what, You're going to Mississippi. Yes, And 490 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 9: I lived about three hundred two hundred miles from the 491 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 9: ocean in Mississippi. I eventually built a house on a 492 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 9: big lake there in Tennessee, so I know both Tennessee 493 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 9: and Mississippi. 494 00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 4: I live. 495 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 9: If you look at the map the state of Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, 496 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 9: the state lines all intersected about a mile from the 497 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 9: house at the lake I lived out then I've been 498 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 9: from there to Baltimore, and I moved here to South 499 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 9: Carolina about twenty seven years ago. Never look back. In fact, 500 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 9: South Carolina today reminds me of what California was like 501 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 9: back in the early sixties. So, I mean, it's just 502 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 9: crazy what's going on. But and I do see a 503 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 9: lot of California license plate yeah, which is even more hilarious. 504 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 9: But the issue out there really is more management of infrastructure. 505 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 9: It's not rocket science. The place used to be called 506 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 9: a valley of smokes by the Indians. Why because it 507 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 9: was always forest fires. Oh okay, what do you need 508 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 9: to do? Clean out the deadwood? And that's been prohibited 509 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 9: for decades. I think. 510 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we tray have a clip clip from Trump thank 511 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: you for the call, by the way, And it's interesting 512 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: he mentioned this book. Do you know the number one 513 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: city that people state that people are moving to according 514 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: to U Haul South Carolina, where he lives now, and 515 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: he said it reminds him of California and sixties. And 516 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 2: you know the number one state that people are moving 517 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: from California. That's a little bit of a tease. I 518 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 2: think we have the clip from Trump talking about how 519 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: they need to do a better job of trying to 520 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 2: pull down the debris in southern California to try to 521 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: stop the spread of wildfires. 522 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: Go we play that, guys. 523 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 12: I know Gavin's committed. We're all committed. I'm committed to 524 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 12: make sure that we get all of this cleaned out 525 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 12: and protected. We've got to take care of the floors, 526 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 12: you know, the floors of the forests very important. You 527 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 12: look at other countries where they do it differently, and 528 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 12: it's a whole different story. I was with the president 529 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 12: of Finland and he said, we have much different We're 530 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 12: a forest nation. 531 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 7: You called it a forest nation, and. 532 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 12: They spend a lot of time on drinking and cleaning 533 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 12: and doing things, and. 534 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 4: They don't have any problem. 535 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 12: And when it is, it's a very small problem. 536 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: I remember Trump getting ridiculed for this back when it happened. 537 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: I think that clip is from twenty eighteen after the 538 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 2: Paradise fire. Interestingly enough, and forest management evidently is not 539 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: as aggressive because of environmental concerns associated with bringing down, 540 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: as you said, buck underbrush in these communities, and so 541 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: it allows there to sometimes be standing brush, which is 542 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: oftentimes the fuel that can help to propel the fire 543 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: to become as substantial as it is. 544 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: I'm going to join us, he with us. 545 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: No, well, at the top of the next hour, I 546 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: was gonna say, but Jimmy, one more call here, Jimmy 547 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: and Santa Barbara, which got for us. 548 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 13: Good morning, clan Buck. I'm one of the conservative holdouts 549 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 13: here and proud to be a resident of the state 550 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 13: that had Ronald Rake and as governor. We have the 551 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 13: Rake and Ranch here and the Presidential Library here, and 552 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 13: there still are a lot of conservatives in California, you have, 553 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 13: believe it. 554 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 9: Or not, but. 555 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 13: We're trying to, you know, hold out here, and we're 556 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 13: just up against so much government regulation and taxes that 557 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 13: we're just we're getting caught up. We've got to have 558 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 13: a revolt. We gotta take back California. 559 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. 560 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, Gavin Newsom somehow managed to 561 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 6: stay as governor even after the recall efforts. So California 562 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 6: has got a ways to go, uh politically, And I 563 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 6: don't know, especially for people that live in some of 564 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 6: the major cities in California, you would think that the 565 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 6: mismanagement San Francisco, mismanagement Los Angeles. Uh, just the poor 566 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 6: leadership and the suffering of those communities that have resulted 567 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 6: from bad decisions, the crime problems, all this, you would 568 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 6: think that there would be a much greater political backlash, 569 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 6: in my opinion, than there has been, but so far 570 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 6: that has has not really been the case, although there 571 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 6: have been some movements toward a little bit of accountability 572 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 6: and more Republicans getting elected in California that resulted in 573 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 6: some house seat pickups. But you know, right now, Clay, 574 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 6: it just looks like, I mean, first of all, everyone's 575 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: still trying to figure out what's you know, what's the 576 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 6: full the full damage and containing everything and dealing with 577 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 6: this this strategy as it unfolds. But there is no 578 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 6: sense that there's competent leadership at the very top, and 579 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 6: that makes everything, i think higher anxiety and perhaps adds 580 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 6: to the sense that this is going to be a 581 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 6: particularly devastating fire, which is it's a tragedy all around. 582 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: To his point, By the way, Buck, in twenty twenty four, 583 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: California had six point one million Trump voters, so one 584 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: of the top states for Trump support in the entire nation. 585 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: Obviously, it's a huge population state. 586 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: Texas had six point four million, so California had almost 587 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: as many Trump voters as the state of Texas. In 588 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty California actually had more Trump voters than the 589 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: state of Texas. Now, again, population numbers are huge, uge 590 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: in California, but there are still a lot of Republicans, 591 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: about forty percent of the state that voted for Donald 592 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: Trump in twenty twenty four. But yes, and obviously the 593 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: success that we have with this show, which we think 594 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: all of you in California, we have a monster audience 595 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: all throughout the state, is a testament. 596 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 6: I think it's our second biggest listening state after Texas. 597 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 6: I think Texas is number one, in California's number two. 598 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: I believe, I have to check. I think you're probably right. 599 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 6: On recently, but I also think, you know, you see 600 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 6: what has happened in California, and it's fair to ask. 601 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 6: I'm not talking about the fire specifically, just the way 602 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 6: that it's been mismanaged. It's fair to ask what would 603 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 6: it take for some of these people in California. You 604 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 6: see Bill Maher was asked recently would you vote Republican? 605 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 6: And he said no, never yeah, I sit here and 606 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 6: I go, well, what, why do you think anything will change? 607 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 6: You know, this is a little bit of the definition 608 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 6: of insanity, right. The people that recognize that there's problems 609 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 6: in that state that need to be addressed, put the 610 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 6: same people with the same ideas and the same approach 611 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 6: in positions of power to handle it, and they wonder 612 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 6: why it doesn't get better. It's a one party state now, 613 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 6: I mean this is I know there's a lot of 614 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 6: Republicans there, but Democrats want a California America. We all 615 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 6: know that that's the whole that's the long term plan. 616 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 6: So you know, it's it's concerning. 617 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: Blue states and blue cities combined is disaster for voters. 618 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: You know, there are some red states with some blue 619 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: cities in that's fine. There are obviously a lot of 620 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: red states that are just deep red. But again, Californians 621 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: made the choice to have I think poor governance, and 622 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: they keep doubling and tripling down on it. Rick Crusoe, 623 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: I think we'd be doing a better job of dealing 624 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: with what is admittedly an awful tragedy and cataclysmic, catastrophic 625 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: event right now in the LA area for many people. 626 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: I think you'd be doing a better job in care 627 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: in Bass. For one thing, he'd actually be in the 628 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: country as opposed to attending the Ghana an auguration. I mean, 629 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: which is, let's be honest, super weird. 630 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 7: The people I just wanted to do the people of 631 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 7: Los Angeles pay for that trip? I mean, really, are 632 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 7: you paying? 633 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: Question? 634 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 7: I would? I don't know, but I'd be very curious 635 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 7: to know. 636 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, what in the world reason could 637 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: there be for the mayor of Los Angeles to be 638 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: going to the inauguration of a Ghana president. It's not 639 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: like there's some huge overlap between Ghana and LA right, 640 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like they have some monstrous trade partnership. Look, 641 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: we all stockpile keepsakes in our home, items of sentimental meaning, 642 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: old photos, good examples, video cassettes, film reels, especially at 643 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: the end now of the holiday season, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years. 644 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: How many new great family memories did you make? Probably 645 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: a lot, hopefully a lot, and you probably made them 646 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,239 Speaker 2: on your phones digitally, and you've probably been sharing that 647 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: with your friends and family digitally. Oh, look how much 648 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: the kids grew Here they are in front of the 649 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: Christmas tree. 650 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: This year. 651 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: Oh look, Grandma and Grandpa getting deposed with the kids. 652 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: My goodness, it's an amazing photo. It's an heirloom for 653 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: you and your family. But what about the ones from 654 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: the eighties and the nineties. They're not preserved because oftentimes 655 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: they're on vhs. They're old photos. They haven't been digitally preserved. 656 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 6: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We've got Cracket Coffee, 657 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 6: my friends, for all of you. 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Actually ran 667 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 6: downstairs to brew some in the commercial break there, so 668 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 6: I gotta go get it. 669 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 7: In a second. I want to also read this real quick. 670 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 6: We've got Adam Carolla is going to call us to 671 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 6: talk to us about what he's seeing and hearing as 672 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 6: a Los ANGELESO, and you know, just bring us. 673 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 7: Up a speed there. 674 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 6: But I read part of this before Trump's tweet. Governor 675 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 6: Gavin Newskim refused to sign the water restoration Declaration and 676 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 6: he said he wanted to protect it essentially worthless fish 677 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 6: called a smelt by giving it less water, it didn't work, 678 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 6: but didn't care about the people of California. Now the 679 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 6: ultimate price is being paid. Clay Trump not holding back 680 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 6: at all on this one, going right after the poor 681 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 6: leadership of California. 682 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it again goes into these 683 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 2: are imminently foreseeable fires. As awful as they are, we've 684 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 2: seen them for decades throughout the history of Los Angeles. 685 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: How is the City of Los Angeles preparing for them? 686 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: Do any people think that the city and the state 687 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 2: have done a phenomenal job it appears to be. The 688 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: answer is no. We're going to continue to update you. 689 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 2: We'll ask Adam Carolla about this. He's right there on 690 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 2: the scene. Will join us top of the next hour. 691 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you spending your Wednesday with us 692 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: here on clay and buck