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Welcome to our podcast. 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Please be aware of the thoughts and opinions expressed by 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: the host are their thoughts and opinions only and do 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: not reflect those of I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage you to 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: do your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 13 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: Get ready of weird. This is Strange Things with Joshua Warren. 14 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: I am Joshua P. Warren. At each week on this show, 15 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new my blowing content, news exercises, 16 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a 17 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: lot more. On this edition of the program, I interviewed 18 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: my dad about the paranormal and he had a surprise 19 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: for me. Last year, I interviewed my mother, Peggy Warren 20 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: about her experiences with E s P. That was episode 21 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: twenty one called Joshua's Personal Proof of ESP. Well, my father, 22 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: Danny Warren, recently turned seventy and he has never been 23 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: interviewed by anyone and his entire life, so it was 24 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: certainly time for me to bring him on the show 25 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: to ask him about some of his paranormal experiences. And 26 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: you know what, he surprised me. He got into a 27 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: bad car wreck a while back and was in the 28 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: hospital for weeks having surgery. He's okay now, but he 29 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: was driving late at night with my mother in the 30 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: mountains near Maggie Valley, North Carolina. At the time he 31 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: told everyone he must have hit a bear. But now 32 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: he's coming clean with the truth about what he may 33 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: have actually hit on that terrible night. Honestly, he had 34 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: never told me this before, so this was a true surprise, 35 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: captured live for this podcast. Now, my mom and dad 36 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: were both born in Asheville, North Carolina, just like me 37 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: and my sister Jessica, and they were high school sweethearts. 38 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: They've been together forever, living in the mountains, and when 39 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: you hear me talk with them, you get an idea 40 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: of sort of how they helped to inspire my enormous 41 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: interest in the unknown. So here we go. Here is 42 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: my interview with my father, Danny Warren. Dad, when I 43 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: was growing up, you were always telling me stories about 44 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: history and religion and folklore and legends, and I was 45 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: deeply inspired by your curiosity and enthusiasm for those things. 46 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: Did you grow up with a particular storyteller around your 47 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: family or did you develop this interest in stories on 48 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: your own? I believe really it probably was. I'm kind 49 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: of like you. We always have a lot of questions 50 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: but very few answers, So I think that kind of 51 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: uh come, you know, I need to know some answers, 52 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: and you did do too, so I think we just 53 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: uh went that route and figuring on this stuff. So, 54 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: but was there ever anybody who would get around the 55 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: campfire and then tell you tales like this? Uh? No, 56 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: not really that I know of. I'm sure that they were, 57 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: like can uh when I was in boy Scouts or 58 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: something like that, but I don't remember it too much 59 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: of that stuff. So, now, when you were a kid, 60 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, what are some of the most mysterious stories 61 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: that you heard growing up? Well, I guess probably the 62 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: most Cheris was one my My dad told me years 63 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: ago he hadn't talked too much, but when he did, 64 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, I listened because he was more open with 65 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: you than he ever was me, because you know, he 66 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: had a lot of memories of awards stuff. But one 67 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: time he I asked him, I was trying to find 68 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: out about my ancestors, and he told me about his 69 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: his dad living out towards Pole Creek is where he 70 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: raised up. We were at that way one time and 71 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: he's saying one right up piers while I grew up. 72 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: So his dad, I think his name was Melvin. Now 73 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: I just bindly remember him. He had a great little 74 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: big handlebar must tash and they were he was dad dad. 75 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: He was the thirteenth kid. I think he's the youngest 76 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: and the thirteen kid. So that's a lot of kids 77 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: back then. Anyhow, Malvin, his dad was the only bread around. 78 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: So he where they lived on Pole Creek, he had 79 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: to walk through the dark woods old a mountain to 80 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: a tannery over in Kenon, and uh, you know that's 81 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: how he made live. And he had to get up 82 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: like four o'clock in the morning because it probably took 83 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: him a couple of hours to get there, but seven, 84 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: and he'd had to walk home at night and he's 85 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: always dark usually, especially you know, in the wintertime. And 86 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: he had an old cossack or people called it burl app. 87 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: I guess he'd put his lunch in and he had 88 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: a lantern he'd had to carry when he's walking through 89 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: the woods. And I asked him one time, I said, 90 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: what did he ever come across any barns or mountain 91 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: lines or anything like that. He said, well, my dad 92 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: told me one time that he remembered he saw which 93 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: is dancing around on the ridge tops. And I thought, 94 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: what witches he should ask try out? Which is is 95 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: what his dad told him. So I always thought that's 96 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: pretty istant, deft, he mysterious. And so he didn't know 97 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: anything more about who or what these witches were. H No, 98 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: he just said he had he had were witches. He 99 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: said how he knew that, I don't know, but he 100 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: acts like hein't had a fire, a camp fire of 101 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: some sort, and they, uh, you know, they danced around 102 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: and nobody lived there. He was just old dark woods. 103 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: You know, you're walking through the you know, that was 104 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: dark all the time. So that's kind of surprised me 105 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: to him to say that because he was dead, he 106 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: had a he was pretty religious, really, and uh, that 107 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: surprised me to him to talk about Abbott, you know, 108 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: that's what he told me. Well, you know, my first 109 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: memory of hearing about the Brown Mountain lights was you 110 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: singing the bluegrass song to the family and telling me 111 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: the folklore about the mountain. What was it about Brown 112 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: Mountain and that whole mystery that sort of captured your imagination. Well, 113 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: I after I heard about him, I heard the song 114 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: probably first, and I got my curiosity got the best him, 115 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: and I thought, well, I'd like to check that out, 116 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: since it's not that far from this is at Liville. 117 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: So one day all of us, uh, your mama and 118 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: you and myself, I think, I don't know if Jessica 119 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: was born there, we went down and see what Haoigan 120 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: see and as we looked off on one eighty one 121 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: that points towards Brown mount So we went there and 122 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it was dark, and it's 123 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: really scary because no other cars were around, and all 124 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden a little old lights started coming up 125 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: off the mountain. And then there's a few minutes another 126 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: one and they kind of went across the light, I 127 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: mean across the ridge, and they shot off up into 128 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: the sky, and I thought, man. And since then we've 129 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: been down are dozens of time, and all but one 130 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: or two times we saw those lights and and and 131 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: they were all kinds of stories for years they said 132 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: it was train lights and this another. But there's no 133 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: train tracks are there's no cars, there's no houses. I 134 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: think the State Forest Service owns that property, but they're 135 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: no way that lights is going to come through there 136 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: and shoot up. So do you have a feeling about 137 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: what they most likely are? Well, I'm not real sure 138 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of a lot of controversy about that, 139 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: and it's still a mystery. I think scientists have come 140 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: here from all over the United States and probably the 141 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: world and and trying to figure it out, but nobody's 142 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: said anything concrete about what it could be. I've got 143 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: my own theories, but I don't I don't don't have much, 144 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, you can put in the way. Well, let's 145 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: let's hear a sample of one of your theories. Well, 146 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm working on a little book right now, and I 147 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: kind of wonder if fact couldn't be some type of 148 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: alien crafts. Yeah, so that's a possibility. A lot of 149 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: people have said they've had encounters with aliens up there, 150 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: and you know, even abductions have been reported out there, 151 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: and that's what that's what I've heard, and nobody can say, 152 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: nobody can side that it's not. Yeah, and uh, of course, uh, 153 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: it seems that many of these strange lights out in 154 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: the middle of national forests are associated with people vanishing. Um. 155 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: You know that we've we've talked before about like the 156 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: Missing four one one books and how that. Uh. I 157 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: don't know whether people are being abducted or carried off 158 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: by bigfoot or whatever. There are weird things in the 159 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: ranges of western North Carolina. And you know, you you 160 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: were were inspired by a lot of the stories that 161 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: you've heard to uh write a book. Uh. You wrote 162 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: this years ago. It's called Ridge Hoppers. Uh tell us 163 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: about that book. Okay, we're gonna take a break right there, 164 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: and when we come back, you'll hear about my dad's book, 165 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: Ridge Hoppers. Did you know that my dad was also 166 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: an author? I guess you can see in our family 167 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: the apple does not fall far from the treat And then, 168 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: of course you will be hearing about the surprise that 169 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: he had for me and all of us when he 170 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: talks about what actually happened to him and this car accident. Um. Okay, 171 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: By the way, of course, you probably know that years 172 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: ago I created a new field of research called parasymatics, 173 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: and the most popular sigil that I have created is 174 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: called the Money Sigil. I get stories from all over 175 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: the world every year from people telling me they have 176 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: the sigil near them, and it's like a money magnet. 177 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: Well guess what. Finally, at long last, I have turned 178 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: the money Sigil into a line of shirts and hoodies 179 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: that you can go online and buy right now. 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Warren, beaming into your wormhole brain 224 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: from my studio and since city, Las Vegas, Nevada, where 225 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: every day is golden and every night is silver. And 226 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: now back to my interview with my dad, Daniel Warren. 227 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: Everybody calls him Danny, and I was just asking him 228 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: to tell us about the book he wrote, which is 229 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: pretty much geared towards young adults called Ridge Hoppers. Well, 230 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: that book actually I used. My grandfather did as far 231 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: as crossed lower in the Pole Creek over to the 232 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: other sides of the canry, and he him uh and 233 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: his wife, I mighteed that he had one son, and 234 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: they didn't know where he was at, so a little 235 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: boy come to live with his own grandson. Anyway, he 236 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: was going up the mountain one day and he encountered 237 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: some little people and they were they were They were 238 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: green and blue and red and all that, and they 239 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: would have a festivul on top of the mountain and 240 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: they were a real mystical type people. They was magical too. 241 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: And he went up there and they were they were 242 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: which is up there, and they were playing music and 243 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: it's a it's pretty interesting. And then he come back 244 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: because he had it had been a flood and he 245 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: couldn't cross the creek to go to his work, so 246 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: he didn't even go to work that day. So he 247 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: come back home late that night and told his wife 248 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: and his grandson what had happened, and they wouldn't believe him. Basically, 249 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: so he the story goes, is he had to prove 250 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: that everybody that he was telling the truth. And they 251 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: found out in the end that he was. So this 252 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: is a work of fiction that's based on some of 253 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: the real stories from your family's history. Yes, yes, that's right, 254 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: so And the website is ridge hoppers dot com if 255 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: people want to learn more about that book, Yes, yes, 256 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: well and actually on rich hoppers dot com. Um you 257 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: also feature some of your art. You're now one of 258 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: the country's premier wood carvers. Your hand carved walking sticks 259 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: sometimes sell for hundreds of dollars and high end shops. 260 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: You've carved thousands of them. What attracted you to wood carving, 261 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: well would to me is it's easy to work with 262 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: and all different woods have all of them seem to 263 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: have different characters about them. And what I like about 264 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: wood is what people most people were They like a 265 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: walking stick, ain't like a straight stick? Well me at 266 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: the top is pretty straight, in the bottom, I don't 267 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: care watch in the middle. What I like about it 268 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: is is all of the noahs and the imperfections and 269 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: the gal and all the imperfections about it, and each 270 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: of them is different and it makes you think. You know, 271 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: if you if you wheel it down to the bar, 272 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: I mean to take all of the bark off. You 273 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: can see the grain, but the bark is what amazes 274 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: me most is it's so different and like you simmon, 275 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: like on the Sasha Fresh it's just an old brown 276 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: looking tree or walking stick water. When you shave the bark, 277 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: he gets that beautiful reddish color, and it's just it's 278 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: just amazing that the wood. It's just to say, everything 279 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: is individualized. It's not even though it's a specie of tree. 280 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: If you're dealing with and everything, they're all different, just 281 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 1: like people. Well, you're always studying the wilderness. I mean, 282 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: you've spent a lot of time in the outdoors. Like 283 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: you said, you were a boy scout, you were in 284 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: the army, You've been a trapper and a hunter, and 285 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: a farmer and the land developers. So you've spent lots 286 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: of time outdoors, especially in the mountains of western North Carolina. 287 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: And you think the Bigfoot maybe real? Is that right? Well, 288 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: I I there's a lot of things I've seen. Uh, 289 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: your Mama and I we deliver our hiking sticks a 290 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: lot of times, two different states around and we come 291 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: home in the dark a lot of times. And I've 292 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: spent so many days, hours out in the woods and 293 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of mysterious stuff at already can't be explained. Actually, 294 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: to tell you the truth, a year before last, we 295 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: were coming through Maggie Valley and Heywood Carny and I 296 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: ran into something with the car and it tolled the car. 297 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: It just crushed the whole front of the car. And 298 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: I didn't see anything. I was doing about forty five 299 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: and it here, so I as soon as it here, 300 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: the our bags come open and the lights had to 301 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: come out, and the lights went on, and I saw 302 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: just the image of something dark is way up above 303 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: the hood. So I was hurried to get out because 304 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: I had the internal leading in all this, and I 305 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: was trying to get the mother out of car. So 306 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: I walked around to the front of the car, I said, 307 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: and don't want to hit And I looked and there's 308 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of blackish long fur on the front of 309 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: the car. And there was a piece of undigested fish. 310 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: And uh, I've been around bars my whole life, and uh, 311 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: byar scat is just an old Tory black and it's 312 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: usually got seated. There was some kind of poop or 313 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: what do you call it there, and and it was 314 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: not a bar. I don't know what it was, but 315 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: whatever it was, it run off into the woods, so 316 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: I never did see it, and the highway patrol and 317 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: he didn't want to go down into the woods to 318 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: look for it, so I think he ended up putting 319 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: putting that it was a bar that I hit. But 320 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: there's nothing there, sir. And I didn't never get a 321 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: chance to put the brakes on when I hit it, 322 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 1: and I thought at later our car was towed away 323 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: and I went to the hospital and your mother did too, 324 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: and then they took me to the trauma center and 325 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: they hadn't taken a spleen out. I had infernal bleeding. 326 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: I was in the hospital two weeks, and I thought 327 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: after that, I for I'd love to I'd take to 328 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: give you a hundred dollars so I could get a 329 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: stranded out higher and a bowl of that plue for 330 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: whatever it was, to have him a DNA tested. That's interesting. 331 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know bars have short high 332 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: elks have short hir dare have short hir horses. Everything does. 333 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: But this had long, furry, black and brown hir. Now 334 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: what could that have been? And it's running around at night. Yeah, 335 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: you'd think that there would have been some more definitive 336 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: evidence if you'd hit a bear. I mean, it's that 337 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: is really weird. Yeah, and it was. It was, Joshua. 338 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: It was way up above the hood. You could see 339 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: the the image up way up above the hood. What 340 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: Barro would have been, he might have been hood level 341 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: or a little bit more. This was way up I 342 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: don't know what it was. I can't definitively say that 343 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: there was a big foot, but can't say it's not. 344 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: It's good possibility. Joe, Well, this is certainly fired up 345 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: your your curiosity because you have this Bigfoot hot Spot 346 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: retreat that you and Mom and Jessica and a lot 347 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: of our friends are gonna be producing October fifteenth and 348 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: sixteen in Madison County, North Carolina. Uh, tell us more 349 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: about what you're gonna do out there. Well, I looked 350 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: at the map and Madison County. I've heard my whole 351 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: life about it's a big foot hot spot. People. Hundreds 352 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: of people's told me that Madison County is kind of 353 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: in the center of the piscoph Forest. You go, wish 354 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: you go towards Guanty in Avery and Mitchell and mcdale County. 355 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: A man called John Brewer has a picture of a 356 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: big foot at Late James and Murray. And you heard 357 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: John Brewer, I probably I've heard that he has he 358 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: has a picture. Okay, if you go west from Madison County, 359 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: you run into the rest of the Pisga nash Forest 360 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: and it runs into the Smokies and uh d Nanta 361 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: Halen Nashville Forest and great. A matter of fact, right 362 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: there just is in Maggie Valley where I hit. Whatever 363 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: I hit, and that's right close to Smokey's was probably 364 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: within ten miles of the Smokies. So Masson County is 365 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: just a hub really as far as I'm concerned. And 366 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: not only that taken to account all the reportings. A 367 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: man after I told me he hunts all the time, 368 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: and he was in the general area where we're gonna 369 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: have the hunt, and he said that it's eight and 370 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: ten ft high up in the are he'd found toward 371 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: pine the of been broke off the trees and something 372 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: had made a bed on the ground with all them 373 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: pine lamps. So what could that be? What in no Barica? 374 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: And that are they ain't No beavers are down clothes. 375 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: So I don't want to go up back to that day. 376 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: Actually they wasn't solid off. They were broke off. And 377 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean, so how are you going to conduct this hunt? 378 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: What is the plan going to be? Well, we've got 379 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: a big Foot expert called Christian mc cloud. He he 380 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: he's been in the big Foot for years and years, 381 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: and he's going to lead the searches. We're going to 382 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: have two searches every night, to searches the fifteenth of 383 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: October and two searches the sixteenth, and he's going to 384 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: lead these and everything will be over at midnight and 385 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna see what's out there, if you can find anything. 386 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: And he knows how to conduct all this stuff. So 387 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a base camp where we'll have a 388 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: camp fire if somebody wants to eat their supper, we're 389 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: gonna have bottled water, we're gonna have poort. The parties 390 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: that actually leave there, they better take a flash out 391 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: with him because they'll be with the the guy, uh 392 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: and see what they find. Actor. Yeah, that's gonna be 393 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: uh interesting. I can't wait to get reports after that 394 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: event from the people who go out there, and of 395 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: course I'll be talking about it on on this show. Um, well, 396 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: you know, I guess I think you said, this is 397 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: the first time that you've ever been interviewed, and uh so, 398 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: I guess you know, finally, after all of your adventures 399 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: in life, even facing death more than once, possibly even 400 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: having hit a sasquatch, Uh, what have you learned? Is 401 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: the meaning of life? Okay, time for another break. Yeah. 402 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: I had to go there with my dad. What is 403 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: the meaning of life? Perhaps the biggest question? I guess 404 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: it is the biggest question. But hey, uh, he helped 405 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: bringing bring me into this world. And uh, you know, 406 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 1: my mom and dad both say that my sister and 407 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: I were we were planned and so that's one of 408 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: the reasons that I, my wife and I chose not 409 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: to have kids because I thought, well, I don't want 410 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: to have a kid because someday the kid might grow 411 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: up like me and turn around and say, Hey, explain everyone, 412 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: why did you bring me into this thing? What's the 413 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: meaning of life? And I would be like, I got 414 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: some hypotheses here, but no real answers. Let's see what 415 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: my dad says, shall we. I'm Joshua P. 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Hi, 434 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: this is Wiji Board expert Karen A. Dolman and you're 435 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 436 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Strange Things on 437 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast stay UM 438 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: Parinormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua pe Warren, 439 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. Yeah. 440 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: I asked my dad, who just turned seventy this year, 441 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: what is the meaning of life? And here's what he said, Well, okay, 442 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: awsome think the meaning of life is to go out 443 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: here and do the best you can do and treat 444 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: everybody right, and you know, carry on with life and 445 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: trying to make the best of it. Because it's just 446 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: hard to say. What I mean. Christ come into the 447 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: world and he had to come down here as a 448 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: human as an example to everybody. So I think that 449 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: that's kind of the way people are to feel the 450 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: same way like he did. That there's something bigger and 451 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: better for us in the future. And he taught righteousness. 452 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: I hope you know that's the best way to be. 453 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: And why the way. While I'm thinking about it, I 454 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: was doing a little research in this. Daniel Boone and 455 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Davy Crockett both had encounters with Bigfoot. Yeah, they sure did. 456 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: It's it's in ridden down that word he did. I 457 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: think Teddy Roosevelt may have had an encounter or or 458 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: he talked something about Bigfoot as well, and Uh, if 459 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: anybody would be out out there running around bigfoot, it 460 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: be Cheddie Roosevelt. Huh oh, I'd say, But you know, 461 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: they didn't come up with that. It was some kind 462 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: of like a little giraffe for something over in Africa 463 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: to like in the twinnies or thirties they found a 464 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: new species. And so this could very well. People talked 465 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: to big Foot for hundreds of years. Indian legends talked 466 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: about big Foot, calling him the hiring Man and different 467 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: names like that. So why couldn't they be a big 468 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: foot out there? And they have a way of if 469 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: they even die to get rid of you know who, 470 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: or dies or whatever. I mean, it's always a possibility, 471 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: all right. And so lastly before we end this interview, Look, 472 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: the floor is yours. Is there anything at all that 473 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: you want to say? I mean, if not, that's fine, 474 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: but anything else you want to stick in here? Well, 475 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: the only thing if people want to come and check 476 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: this out and see if there's a big Foot out there. 477 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: This is supposed to be a play where they've been 478 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: known to be soon and it looks like it could be, 479 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, who knows. That's a long way 480 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: to find out. Just search and look. Uh. You know, 481 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: I used to hunt years ago and fish. I've hunted 482 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: and fished holl Over western North Carolina, and I give 483 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: out up years ago. I don't want to harm anything anymore. 484 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: And the more you can learn about stuff, it would 485 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: be nice. If I saw a big foot. I wouldn't 486 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: tell people where they were at, because somebody would try 487 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: to harm them. But I think I'm open to the 488 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: people coming and have the search, and who knows you 489 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: might see one. There is this debate out there over 490 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: whether or not if a person sees bigfoot, the person 491 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: should shoot bigfoot just to get one specimen to prove 492 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: they exist. How do you feel about that? I know 493 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't shoot it. You know if you could, 494 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: uh maybe uh walk up to and gets over its 495 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: hers something like, or or see maybe some of its 496 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: tire we scrape off on a fence or a tree. 497 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: You know, big foot from what I understand, they have 498 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: rubs like deer. You know when deer have antlers and 499 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: they take their antlers when in the velvet and rubbed 500 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: their head. They must each Apparently big foot scratches trees too. 501 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: I guess he It's is like other people, and so 502 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, uh, there's you see trees all time, and 503 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: something's been rubbing on them, you know, eight and nine 504 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: ten ft up an iron and I couldn't be a 505 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: deer that high. So what do what caused that? Yeah, 506 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a mystery, and uh, you know, we 507 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: may never find out what it is, but well I'm 508 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: sure we're gonna try as long as I can. All Right, 509 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: there was my interview with my dad. As you can see, 510 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: it kind of sounds like that our family is both 511 00:32:52,560 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: tortured and delighted and entertained by our curiosities trying to 512 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: solve these mysteries. Um, but I'm really glad that even 513 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: though we know we're never going to understand everything, that 514 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: at least, you know, we're never going to get bored 515 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: because there's a lot to think about, a lot to explore. 516 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: And Dad, thank you for being on this show. I 517 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: love you and Mom so much, and I know my 518 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: sister Jessica feels the same. And uh, it's just fantastic 519 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: that I've been able to have you and Mom on 520 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: this show to share your thoughts and experiences with the 521 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: world for posterity. I'm very fortunate, and I guess I 522 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: got to interview Jessica next, but that might be heavily atitude. 523 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: There's no telling what my sister Jessica is liable to say. 524 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: So got gotta come full circle here and get Jessica 525 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: on here. But now that that was great and a 526 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: very special thing for me to be able to talk 527 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: with with my parents on this podcast. And as you 528 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: can all hear, I mean like my dad is fired 529 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: up about the whole bigfoot mystery, especially after having that 530 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: accident where he may have hit a bigfoot, just like 531 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: something out of Harry and the Henderson's you know. Um. 532 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: And so look, if you want to participate in this 533 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: bigfoot hunt in October of two in Madison County, North Carolina, 534 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: I believe that if you go to ridge Hoppers dot com, um, 535 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: you'll see a little information there are I D G 536 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: E H O, P P e R S ridge hoppers 537 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: dot com. But um, the easiest thing is just to 538 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, email my mom, uh and that way, I 539 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: mean you can get details about how you can go 540 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: out there with my mom and my dad and Christian 541 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: McLeod and a bunch of other people who are experts 542 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: in this UM email my mom, Peggy at ridge hoppers 543 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. R I D G E H 544 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: O P P E R s at gmail dot com. 545 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: And again I think if you just go to ridge 546 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: hoppers dot com, UM, you'll have some information there as well, 547 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: because I am going to be giving a report on 548 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: this show about what happens there in the field, and 549 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: most of you probably know that. I think that majority 550 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: of bigfoot sidings are the product of some kind of 551 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: an interdimensional creature, and a lot of people have trouble 552 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: believing that because that they don't realize that an interdimensional 553 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: creature is not like a ghost that you just passed 554 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: right through when you're It's not like Casper the friendly 555 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: ghost and you try to to hug him and you 556 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: go through him. No, I mean, uh, an, an interdimensional 557 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: creature is actually here physically here. It's a real physical 558 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: thing while it's here, and then it just disappears us. 559 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: And so that may be why that so many people 560 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: think like bigfoot has to be a physical thing, because 561 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 1: it is, but then they can't find it. And about 562 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: seven years ago, UM, I met Dr Jeffrey Meldrum, who's 563 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 1: one of the most esteemed bigfoot sasquatch researchers in the world. 564 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: And and by the way, I mean, I've been looking 565 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: into sasquatching bigfoot my whole life. Um, even before I 566 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: got in the Ghost, I was reading books as a kid. 567 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: And then you know, I know Lauren Coleman very well. 568 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: I have hired him to speak at events for me. 569 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: We have spoken together at events, and um, I mean 570 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: I I I really have always been very open minded 571 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: about this whole thing. So anyway, I was looking back 572 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: at some of my notes about meeting uh Dr Jeffrey 573 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: Meldrum back in two thousand fifteen, and I asked him, 574 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: uh face to face if he thinks the Bigfoot has 575 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: to be just an ordinary biological organism, and he said 576 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: that he thinks Bigfoot is absolutely an ordinary ape like creature. 577 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: And when I asked him why we don't have more hair, scat, etcetera, 578 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: he said that it's simply an extremely small population and 579 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 1: that we are not used to dealing with extremely small 580 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: populations of extremely large, intelligent animals. So you know, it's like, 581 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: one of the things that makes me think that that 582 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: may be true, but it's also interdimensional is because we 583 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: have reports from all fifty States every year. We've gotten 584 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: very good at documenting normal physical animals, but we can 585 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: barely grasp the idea of interdimensional life forms. And it 586 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: makes sense to me that we can only explain all 587 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: these sightings, if they're true, by applying the concept of 588 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: a creature that is not the ordinary by logical type. 589 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: That's just what I think, Okay, But I do believe 590 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: that people have these encounters with Bigfoot, and hopefully you 591 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: can see how I bring those two together. And it's 592 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: actually quite interesting, uh, to show you just the extent 593 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: to which I am intrigued with Bigfoot. Um. You may 594 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 1: or may not know that I have released a new 595 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: brand of paranormal coffee. This is something I've been working 596 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: on for years, and one of my coffees is called 597 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: Bigfoot or Brew. And just to give you an idea 598 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: of how this came to be, I have, for about 599 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: twenty years had a good friend who is an expert 600 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: in the gourmet coffee business. She lives in North Carolina 601 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: and I I love coffee, but I'm not a big 602 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: coffee drinker. And so she started sending me samples of 603 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: different like five star coffees and saying, like, try I 604 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: this blend and try this blend. And I started really 605 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: enjoying these blends, and it became kind of a fun 606 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: thing at my house. Like I would. I started taking 607 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: notes on these different blends, and I thought, well, you 608 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: know what, if I love this coffee, maybe my audience will. 609 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: So I picked these three coffees because they tasted wonderful 610 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: to me. And because that, I thought to myself, if 611 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: I were going to go on a ghost hut, I 612 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: think I would bring this coffee with me to keep 613 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: me alert and all that, you know. Or if I 614 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: was going to go out for a night searching for UFOs, 615 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: I would want this coffee. It has a little bit 616 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: of a cerebral effect opens the mind. Or if I 617 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: was gonna sit around that campfire looking for Bigfoot like 618 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: some old cowboy, I would use this guy. And I 619 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 1: picked these coffees. And when we come back from the break, 620 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: I want to tell you about these coffees and my 621 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: new coffee brand, which is available right now. And then 622 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: I want to read to you an email, actually a 623 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: couple of interesting emails I've gotten. One of them is 624 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 1: about dreams that come true. I'm Joshua pe Warren, and 625 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: you are listening to Strange Things on the I Heart 626 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,959 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'll 627 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: be right back. Don't go anywhere. There's more strange things 628 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: coming right up. The art Bell Vault never disappoints. Classic 629 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: audio at your fingertips. Go now to Coast to Coast 630 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: ad um dot com for full details. Hey, the Coast 631 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: to Coast to YouTube channels. Go to Coast to Coast 632 00:40:53,560 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: damn dot com for more information. You're listening to the 633 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a M Paranormal 634 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: podcast network. Heard on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 635 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: or wherever you find your favorite shows. And welcome back 636 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things 637 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM 638 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your whole is Joshua pe Warren 639 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, I uh, I have my own brand of 640 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: coffee now. And here's the thing. This is not just 641 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: a gimmick. This is good stuff. Okay. These are artisan blimbs, 642 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: roasted and small batches and shipped fresh. Uh. The bad 643 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: news is, currently we can only ship to addresses in 644 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: the United States. Uh. So I've called this Close Encounter coffees, 645 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: and so I have this flagship Close Encounter Coffee and 646 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: then I've got the Banshee Brew. So like you know, 647 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: close Encounter Coffee. That's that's what you want if you're 648 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 1: gonna go on a UFO hunt, or the bandshe Brew 649 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: if you're gonna go on a ghost hunt, and then 650 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: the big Footer Brew. Duh, you know you're gonna go. 651 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,439 Speaker 1: And uh, Sam Shearon, who I believe is the best 652 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 1: artist in the world, produced these beautiful labels for these bags, 653 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: and so uh look, if you if you want to 654 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: just try it out, Um, you can. You can buy 655 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: one of them and try it, or you can buy 656 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: us all of them and tryumph. But if you actually 657 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: subscribe to one of them or all of them, well 658 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 1: you'll you'll save money because you get free shipping. And 659 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: then every month, what is what a nice surprise it 660 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: will be to have a nice fresh bag of this 661 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: artist and coffee that appears in your mailbox right when 662 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 1: you need it. So look, just don't take my word 663 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: for it. UM, read all about it. Go to the website. 664 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 1: You'll see a video there. You can click a link 665 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: where I'm talking more about this and and why that 666 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: this is something that I've never done before, but I'm 667 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: doing it now and I guarantee it. Okay, I guarantee 668 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: that you will love this and you'll get hooked on it. 669 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: You'll pick your favorite one just like I have, and 670 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: you know you'll use it probably every day. You know, 671 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: this will be your like regular coffee. Uh, go to 672 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: close and Counter Coffees dot com, Close Encounter Coffees dot 673 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: Com and uh, you will see very soon. I'm sure 674 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: why that I have fallen in love with these coffees 675 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: and why that I put my name on them? You know, 676 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: I could have taken some old cheap coffee coffee and 677 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: like slap my name. I Now, I'm not just trying 678 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: to make a buck here. You'll see um again artisan 679 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: gourmet blends. Okay, So let's get to the emails, shall we. 680 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,919 Speaker 1: You know I did a show not too long ago 681 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,439 Speaker 1: about dreams and dreaming, and I got this email from 682 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: Robert in Pennsylvania and he said I was breeding mice 683 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 1: and rats to feed my growing reptile pet collection. At 684 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: one time, I had nine snakes and several lizards that 685 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: ate live rodents in different shapes and sizes, everything from pinky, 686 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: which is just day old mice to full grown rats. 687 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: At this time, I was also camping a lot, and 688 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: I would often be gone an entire weekend, sometimes a 689 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: three day weekend, and on one of my three day trips, 690 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 1: I told my dad to check my rodents and make 691 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: sure they had enough water. Well. He did not have 692 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: to worry about feeding them, as they had plenty of 693 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: food to survive until I got home. In other words, 694 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: Dad did not have to open any of the cages. 695 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,879 Speaker 1: Our old house was weird in the sense that there 696 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 1: was only one light switch to the basement, and the 697 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: switch was at the top of the stairs. You had 698 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: to walk through the entire carpeted house, living room, dining 699 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: room to get the cellar door, which was in the kitchen. 700 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: So whenever I would come home from camping or we 701 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 1: just got out of the creek from inner tubing, I 702 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: would use the outside basement door so as not to 703 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: track dirt all over the main house to get to 704 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: the basement, But unless the sun was shining, we'd have 705 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: to use a flashlight or feel our way with a 706 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: dark basement until we found the stairs and then climbed 707 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: them to the top to flip on the basement lights. Well, 708 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: while I was camping, I dreamt that I was going 709 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: down the stairs into the basement, and I saw some 710 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: of my mice running around loose out of their cages. 711 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: And when I got home three days later and opened 712 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: the outside basement door, I saw mice running around. After 713 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: getting the lights turned on, I found that one of 714 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: the cages my dad had opened. Uh, one of the 715 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: cages my dad had opened and forgot to put the 716 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,760 Speaker 1: lid back on. So did I dream of a future 717 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: event or did I dream about it as it was 718 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: happening miles away from my campsite. Okay, let me pause 719 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: for a second. Look, it could be either of those, Robert, 720 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: because look, I have had dreams myself, uh that come 721 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 1: true in the future. Okay, I'll give you a couple 722 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: of examples. When I was a kid, I've talked about 723 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: this before. I was like in middle school, and I 724 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: had a dream about my science teacher going up in 725 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: front of the class wearing a certain outfit, sitting on 726 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: a stool and telling us that she was taking a 727 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: new job and she was never going to be our teacher. Well, 728 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: she wasn't gonna be our teacher, you know. And uh. 729 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: And so the next day, um, that happened. So I 730 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: dreamed that in the future. Now, two days ago, I 731 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 1: was sleeping late because I was up working all night, 732 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: and I had this dream about being here in my 733 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: house with my wife Lauren and our dogs, and I 734 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: looked over and there was this lizard, like some kind 735 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,479 Speaker 1: of geck or something like that, you know, uh, sitting there, 736 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: and the dogs started to go after it, but it 737 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: didn't move, and it turns out it was it. And then, 738 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: like I don't know, maybe a minute after that, I 739 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: got woken up because my phone I turned, I kept 740 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: it turned up, and I got a text from Lauren. 741 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: She had gone out to our swimming pool and she 742 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: had found a dead lizard that had drowned in the 743 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: pool that looked almost exactly like what I had dreamed. 744 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: So I have no doubt I was dreaming about that 745 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: incident as it was happening. So it can go either way. 746 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: When you're out of your body, you you can travel 747 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 1: to other places, or you can travel to other times spacetime. 748 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. It's flexible. And then he goes 749 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: on to say, I have heard this story about how 750 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: if you dream and you are falling and you hit 751 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: the ground before waking up, you will die in your sleep. 752 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard this story? I do remember at 753 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 1: least one time I dreamt I was falling off a 754 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 1: bridge and fell into the creek spend, and I remember 755 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 1: I bounced awake in my bed. It was like I 756 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: was really falling and landed in my bed. The balance 757 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: landing woke me up, and I'm thinking my astral spirit 758 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: snapped back into my body. And since you mentioned that 759 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: you dream you are flying, how do you land? How 760 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 1: have you ever crashed? Well, Robert, these are great stories 761 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: and questions, and okay, so thank you for those. Yes. 762 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: Usually when I land, it's kind of soft, you know. 763 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: It's it's almost like I'm standing at the bottom of 764 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: a swimming pool and I propel myself up and then 765 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: I sink back down. But I have had uh dreams 766 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: and which I have fallen straight down and I'm waving 767 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,479 Speaker 1: my arms and nothing happens, and I hit and I die. 768 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,800 Speaker 1: Uh that has happened to me. And I'm I'm actually 769 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: lying there face down and I know I'm dead, and 770 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 1: then I wake up after a while. So I don't 771 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: believe that if you fall and you die in your dream, 772 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: that that means you have to die uh in your 773 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: physical body. But see, isn't it's cool to get, you know, 774 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 1: feedback like that from listeners. After I talked about this stuff, 775 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: let me squeeze in one more email. This comes to 776 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: me from man named Charles. I'm not sure where he lives, 777 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: and he says, I want to tell you about some 778 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: success I have had with a good fortune tone and 779 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: the sigils. I want to write and tell you my 780 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: quick success story of using your good fortune tone and sigil. 781 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: I was going to Bingo on September one and decided 782 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,879 Speaker 1: to take a copy of the money sigil with me. 783 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: I put it on the table in front of me 784 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: so I could see it, and I also remembered that 785 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: you sent me the free links that included a long 786 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: version of the good Fortune Tongue. I put in my 787 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: earbuds and listened to it on a thirty minute loop, 788 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: and I kept thinking, I'm a winner and I will win. 789 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: Will guess what I won? Twice and he told me 790 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: how much he won. I don't think i'll repeat that, 791 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: but let me tell you, he says, not a bad 792 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: night at all. I plan to try the Casino next. 793 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: Thanks well, congratulations Charlie. That's wonderful. Please keep me updated. 794 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: And that's the thing, um, when you sign up from 795 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: my newsletter, you know, you get this kind of stuff 796 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 1: that you can experiment with. And that is why I 797 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: believe that this whole show does so well, because we're 798 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: always working together to have good fortune together. And so 799 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,879 Speaker 1: guess what, it's time for me to play the good 800 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: fortune tone for you. I want you if you can, 801 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: and to close your eyes. If not, uh, you know 802 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: that's okay, but at least take some deep breaths, try 803 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: to relax a second. This is only twenty seconds long, 804 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 1: and if you meditate on this while you hear it, 805 00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: I think you might have one of the best weeks ever. 806 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: Here we go. 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