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Speaker 4: My brain is like full blown mashed potatoes right now. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm done. I want to go to bed and I
Speaker 4: want to sleep for eighteen hours. Let's roll through the
Speaker 4: list of names that have been dealt in the last
Speaker 4: like three four days.
Speaker 2: You ready?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, So I'm Jack Peter. We've got Dustin Demonter too.
Speaker 4: This is the Just Baseball Show and uh I guess
Speaker 4: this is coming out on Saturday.
Speaker 2: The thirty first.
Speaker 4: We're recording at four forty seven Eastern Time. On Friday.
Speaker 4: Deadline was forty eight minutes ago. Now it's four forty eight.
Speaker 4: But here are all the names over the last three
Speaker 4: four days that just got dealt Joey Gallos, Darling Marte,
Speaker 4: Chris Bryant, Anthony Rizzo, Kyle Schwar, Max suz Er, Trey Turner,
Speaker 4: Nelson Cruz, Javier Bias, Jose Barrios, Danny Duffie, Eduardo Escobar,
Speaker 4: Kendall Graveman, Adam Fraser, Craig Kimberl, Jorge Solaire and Moore.
Speaker 4: Is this the best deadline ever?
Speaker 1: This is one of the best deadlines I've seen in
Speaker 1: a very long time. And Richard Rodriguez just went to
Speaker 1: the Braves too. Don't even know if you talked about
Speaker 1: him like that. Was one of the best relievers of
Speaker 1: the deadline and now he's a brave. The Braves did
Speaker 1: weirdly well, God, the Braids did really went well. They
Speaker 1: got Adam Duval, they got Eddie Rosario, they got Richard Rodriguez.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: They got Jack Peterson a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Peterson a couple of weeks ago. You know, for a
Speaker 1: team that we didn't think was gonna do much, I
Speaker 1: think they did a very good job for what was
Speaker 1: kind of laid out in front of them. I think
Speaker 1: the Braves actually kind of killed it.
Speaker 4: You took a very soft stance. You said, this is
Speaker 4: one of the best deadlines ever, Dustin, Is this the
Speaker 4: best deadline ever?
Speaker 3: This is the best deadline ever.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: Like, think about all the big names that got dealt.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's absolutely incredible. I don't know have had
Speaker 3: have we had confirmation about this, the Shureser Trey Turner deal.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely it's really official. You freaking Dodger fan.
Speaker 3: That's kind of neat, Like the Dodgers are really good.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm looking right now for this tweet that Sarah
Speaker 1: Lang's put out and I gotta find it because I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want it to go unnoticed because it
Speaker 1: blew my mind. Ten players who were All Stars this
Speaker 1: year have been traded Gallo Nelson, Cruz, Kyle Gibson, Adam Frazier,
Speaker 1: at Wada, Westcobar, Kyle Schwarber, Max Scherzer, Craig kimberl Trey Turner,
Speaker 1: and Chris Bryant. That's the most players to make an
Speaker 1: All Star Game and change teams in a season in
Speaker 1: the history of baseball. God, wow, wow. I needed to
Speaker 1: buy that tweet because I was like, that tweet kind
Speaker 1: of put it all into perspective. What just happened these
Speaker 1: last twenty four hours. I mean, the Yankees just got
Speaker 1: fucking Joey Gallo and Anthony Rizzo and then they just
Speaker 1: added Andrew Keeney. Don't really know why, but it. Stuff
Speaker 1: is actually pretty good. But it's like Andrew Keeney gonna
Speaker 1: be that guy. I don't even know if he saws
Speaker 1: of the fifth starter right now.
Speaker 4: The last like the last six hours, I think my
Speaker 4: resting heart rate has been like one.
Speaker 2: It's been crazy.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we got some fans here who did a
Speaker 1: lot of big things. We got a Dodger fan right there.
Speaker 1: You're a White Sox fan. Yeah, I'm a Yankee fan.
Speaker 1: We had my big Yankee riff yesterday. Dustin's Dustin. How
Speaker 1: are you feeling as a fan of the Los Angeles Juggernauts.
Speaker 3: I was literally on cloud nine yesterday, Like I was
Speaker 3: just pacing my house just thinking about the lineup that
Speaker 3: we're gonna throw out there and the rotation because you
Speaker 3: you had Max Cherzer, who's arguably our ace. You know,
Speaker 3: you got Wauler Cherser, that's our one two you got,
Speaker 3: and then you got Trey Turner just just so dynamic,
Speaker 3: so fast, such a good hitter. I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: remember a team like this like the Dodgers have right
Speaker 3: now that they've assembled. The bullpen's a little iffy, but
Speaker 3: aside from that, the rotation, the defense and the offense,
Speaker 3: like I could think of some some team that can compare.
Speaker 3: I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Anybody Danny Duffy and it didn't even matter.
Speaker 3: It didn't even matter to depth piece. It's like, hopefully
Speaker 3: Danny Duffy is like a guy who can come out
Speaker 3: of the pen throw ninety five from He will be
Speaker 3: he will be that better than David Price.
Speaker 1: Yeah, better than eight at the beginning of the year,
Speaker 1: a developing ace at thirty two.
Speaker 3: Did you guys see that tweet? It was like the
Speaker 3: Dodgers have six m vps and seven syngs on their team.
Speaker 3: What Yeah, Yeah, Albert Pools is a Dodger.
Speaker 1: Albert the worst player in your lineup is a former
Speaker 1: MVP and Cody Bellinger who won it two years ago.
Speaker 3: Well, think oft who just lost their spot. It's it's
Speaker 3: a J. Pollock who whenever he's in the lineup, he's
Speaker 3: like producing pretty well. Like he's like a one w
Speaker 3: r C plus guy, Like he's he could help a contender.
Speaker 3: That's wild about it.
Speaker 5: A J.
Speaker 3: Paullack could help a contender if he's healthy. So it's
Speaker 3: just like, it's just it's it's incredible. It's the it's
Speaker 3: the All Star team. It really is. Los Angeles is
Speaker 3: the All Star Team. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: There there is not a single type of draft that
Speaker 4: you could do Fantasy baseball, even hop on a video
Speaker 4: game and produce that lineup, even get the three headed
Speaker 4: monster at the top of the rotation when Kershaw comes back.
Speaker 4: There is not a world where you can imagine Kershaw,
Speaker 4: Bueller and Sureser with Oh, by the way, Julio Reis
Speaker 4: is the four Peter.
Speaker 3: Because Yankees had a chance.
Speaker 2: This is horrible for baseball. That's my thought.
Speaker 1: We got on that a little bit because we were
Speaker 1: debating about that earlier. You hate it, you hate.
Speaker 2: It, I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 4: The Dodgers are, if I read correctly, forty million dollars
Speaker 4: above anybody else in payroll, right, I think it's more.
Speaker 2: I think it's more.
Speaker 4: Now, Yes, I understand the argument where, Okay, if you
Speaker 4: have an owner that's savvy, they're going to spend the money.
Speaker 4: I understand that if you have somebody that's passionate about winning,
Speaker 4: they're going to spend the money it takes to win.
Speaker 2: I am, and I.
Speaker 4: Have long been a proponent of the salary cap in
Speaker 4: baseball because I just want to see twenty eight other
Speaker 4: teams can tend. But when the Yankees and the Dodgers
Speaker 4: are the two Sorry Yankee and Dodger fans, but when
Speaker 4: the Yankees and the Dodgers are the two teams that
Speaker 4: are dominating this deadline, all these other moves don't mean
Speaker 4: jack shit. When the Dodgers just got Sureser and Trey
Speaker 4: Turner in the same damn deal, and within twenty four hours,
Speaker 4: the Yankees just got Joey Gallo and Anthony Rizzo to
Speaker 4: pump baseballs over the short porch, it doesn't matter. Nothing
Speaker 4: that anybody does matters.
Speaker 3: Wait, jeah, yeah, you're a White Sox fan, right, Yeah?
Speaker 3: They're bullpen is.
Speaker 6: Incredible, insane, Like the White Sox are still better than
Speaker 6: the Yankees, right, now, God, the White Sox are still
Speaker 6: better than the Yankees.
Speaker 1: You just got Craig Kimber, Ryan Tapera, and you have
Speaker 1: Liam Hendrick. Still, pair that with Garret Crochet and Michael
Speaker 1: Kopek throwing a hundred milline hour bullets.
Speaker 4: And Aaron Bummer with it, and Aaron Bummer, who's basically
Speaker 4: just Zack Britton.
Speaker 1: You know, Zach Britton. The thing also about Zach Britton,
Speaker 1: low key throws ninety one miles an hour. Remember when
Speaker 1: he threw ninety seven. That's just not happening anymore. This
Speaker 1: is not the same Zach Britton. The Yankees failed to
Speaker 1: do one thing. They really failed to add any pitching
Speaker 1: at the deadline. Yes, the Yankees added Anthony Rizzo and
Speaker 1: they added Joey Gallop, but they didn't have pitching. He
Speaker 1: ne that what?
Speaker 6: What like that deal?
Speaker 1: Yeah it'll be fine, but he's not a game changer
Speaker 1: and he will be all right? Is that a game changer?
Speaker 1: We didn't like. Also, the worst trade of the deadline,
Speaker 1: the one I think that mattered the least, Ja Happed
Speaker 1: to the Cardinals for John Gant. Why even make the trade.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, John Lester to the Cardinals.
Speaker 6: For Yeah, why make the trade? Like, what are the Cardinals?
Speaker 6: Cardinals just want to get older.
Speaker 2: Probably they want mature Peter.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you why Andrew Heaney the Yankees was
Speaker 3: a solid deal for the Yankees. Tell me, first of all,
Speaker 3: they gave up absolutely nothing from what I know nothing.
Speaker 3: Andrew Heeney is a serviceable back end of the rotation arm.
Speaker 3: Let's say he gets hot and wins you five extra
Speaker 3: games over the over the course of the next you know,
Speaker 3: fifty games or so that are left. That's the difference
Speaker 3: between you making the wild Card and not. So who's your.
Speaker 1: Do you think they made that deal because they don't
Speaker 1: think Corey Klueber and Luis Everina are going to come back?
Speaker 3: Really, I think they made that deal because you can
Speaker 3: never have enough starting pitching depth one never.
Speaker 2: I mean the Dodgers have ten.
Speaker 3: Another level, it's it's a different deal with the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: What do we think about the Padres not doing a
Speaker 1: whole lot. I mean, they did add Adam Fraser, but
Speaker 1: they didn't get rid of Osmers. And now they have
Speaker 1: a hole in the infield where they have seven infielders
Speaker 1: and only four spots to put them in. You can
Speaker 1: only play nine Frasier is.
Speaker 2: Gonna play the corners.
Speaker 1: I agree, that's being crazy, but left right, that's it. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: now they have fire Myers, I combine I combined Fam
Speaker 1: and Myers in the fires Tommy Fam, Will Myers and
Speaker 1: Trent Grisham.
Speaker 2: Yeah, four man outfield.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't do that. So if he's playing the corners,
Speaker 1: who's getting the Who's getting.
Speaker 2: The boot Will Myers?
Speaker 1: So you just upgraded from Will Myers to Adam Fraser
Speaker 1: in the outfield, which is a which is an upgrade,
Speaker 1: but not a huge one.
Speaker 3: Think about how think about how dynamic the Padres offense is,
Speaker 3: how many different ways they can beat you.
Speaker 1: Would you take them over the Giants?
Speaker 3: The Padres over the Giants? Yeah, yes, one hundred.
Speaker 1: Bryant.
Speaker 3: The Giants got Chris Bryant. I forgot about that.
Speaker 1: Now brought a trade deadline podcast. Chris Bridan is one
Speaker 1: of the Giants.
Speaker 4: Here's what we're gonna do right now, We're going to
Speaker 4: roll through a couple minutes on each deal. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do it wards in chronological order, and we're gonna start
Speaker 4: with that Bryant deal.
Speaker 2: So right under the tag of the deadline.
Speaker 4: I think this was three point fifty five Eastern four
Speaker 4: four o'clock hard out Chris Bryant from Chicago to San
Speaker 4: Francisco for Alexander Canario and Caleb Killian both I think
Speaker 4: top fifteen guys in the Giant system. Canario the number
Speaker 4: nine player in the Giants system. It feels like, especially
Speaker 4: with what the White Sox had to give up for
Speaker 4: Craig Kimbrel, it feels like the Giants kind of got
Speaker 4: away with highway robbery there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: Canario is he's got some upside. He's got a lot
Speaker 3: of bat speed. He's really similar though to a lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of the other Giants prospects. They they're
Speaker 3: all high ceiling guys, a lot of outfielders. The Giants
Speaker 3: dealt from a place of depth in their minor league system.
Speaker 1: I mean even better for the Giants, they literally dealt
Speaker 1: from strength and they didn't give a whole lot.
Speaker 3: It was an incredibly good move from the Giants perspective
Speaker 3: in my opinion, for sure. I mean Canario, he's definitely
Speaker 3: not as good as Ramos Mata Matis and there's one more,
Speaker 3: but they they've got a good system of guys with
Speaker 3: high ceiling outfielders. So they dealt from a place of
Speaker 3: strength and and that was a easy, easy deal for them.
Speaker 3: Do that ten out of ten times.
Speaker 1: If you're the Cubs, you happy about that at all?
Speaker 2: I guess it's.
Speaker 3: Like Canario's got, but it's it wasn't It wasn't a
Speaker 3: big deal at all for the Cubs.
Speaker 1: I thought i'd get Art.
Speaker 2: I thought they would too.
Speaker 4: I thought it would be Bryant for Bart straight up,
Speaker 4: if we're being totally honest.
Speaker 1: Makes sense, and that kind of that's kind of how
Speaker 1: the Mets deal won with Hobby.
Speaker 4: By this, Yeah, let's talk about that. When Hobby Baiaz
Speaker 4: and Trevor Williams from Chicago to the Mets for Pete
Speaker 4: Crow Armstrong.
Speaker 1: Before we even talked about the trade, swaggiest infield duo
Speaker 1: of all time. They're boys, they're boys and the swaggy
Speaker 1: and they know what they're doing. But both of them
Speaker 1: can't hit right out. And Hobby low key is one
Speaker 1: of the league leaders at errors and nobody talked about.
Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about he's this amazing defender, and I get
Speaker 1: errors are not a perfect way to evaluate a defensive player.
Speaker 1: But if you're faster and you have better range. You
Speaker 1: can get to more balls, maybe get your glove on
Speaker 1: that ball that might go past someone be a hit,
Speaker 1: but for you, it bounces off your glove and in
Speaker 1: the center. I get it. But he's still the one
Speaker 1: of the league leaders in errors like that still matters,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna put him in second base position he's
Speaker 1: never played before, and you gave up a really good
Speaker 1: outfield prospect. I mean, Dustin, you know all about Pete
Speaker 1: cro Armstrong. Came out of Harvard Westlake High School. Guy
Speaker 1: like he was legit, and they just kind of gave
Speaker 1: him up for you know. I like Hobby Bias, but
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like it's an overpay.
Speaker 3: Well, Hobby Bias has played a lot of second base. Actually, Peter,
Speaker 3: I'm sure you remember. You probably just missed book, but
Speaker 3: he remember when Addison Russell was a cup shortstop. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: second basement. I know that they like each other a lot,
Speaker 3: like they're boys. Lindor and Bays are boys. There's gonna
Speaker 3: be some chemistry up the middle. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: upside in both of their bats. I think Lindor. I
Speaker 3: think Lindor is like having some like some second thoughts
Speaker 3: about signing with the Mets from like, remember, did you
Speaker 3: guys see the interview of him, like saying like, oh,
Speaker 3: I just wanted to hear if they were booing me
Speaker 3: after he hit a home run. He's not in a
Speaker 3: mental state right now, so I think if you get
Speaker 3: him in that good mental state, you get lind Door back,
Speaker 3: like Francisco Lindor the guy you paid for the best
Speaker 3: shortstop in baseball, maybe minus Bernanda Tazis, And you get
Speaker 3: him back. You add Hobby byas who works for him.
Speaker 3: Incredible defender, incredible, capable of leaving the yard at any time.
Speaker 3: I think it was Pekrow Armstrong. He's he's just super young,
Speaker 3: so you'd never know what those guys. But I mean
Speaker 3: he's obviously a great prospect. But I mean I like it,
Speaker 3: like it for the Mets.
Speaker 1: You like it for the Mets. So who would you
Speaker 1: say would win that deal? Both of you?
Speaker 3: I think it's a no brainer for both sides. And
Speaker 3: that's my like. I think it's no brander for both sides.
Speaker 3: I think I don't. I'm not as down on hobby
Speaker 3: bias as most people are. I know he's having the
Speaker 3: swing and miss issues, But I mean, I think you
Speaker 3: get these guys in a more comfortable situation and I
Speaker 3: think they're going to produce better.
Speaker 2: So here here are my thoughts on that. Real quick.
Speaker 4: Haave Baya's had flirted with the idea of teaming up
Speaker 4: with Frankie Lindor in free agency this year, So I
Speaker 4: think what just happened was the Mets are getting a
Speaker 4: four month trial off Hovey Bayaz and seeing if it
Speaker 4: can work out.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: They don't need to sign Hoavey Bayaz for uber expensive
Speaker 4: like we thought he might be.
Speaker 2: He has proved that he is going to be a
Speaker 2: cheap free.
Speaker 4: Agent guy this year, and I think that is going
Speaker 4: to turn out to be the case. I think they
Speaker 4: have a chance to pitch playing in the same middle
Speaker 4: infield as Francisco Lindor, and this can turn into a
Speaker 4: lot more than a rental.
Speaker 2: For the cub side. The idea of Brendon Davis and
Speaker 2: center Carow Armstrong in left or right, and then the
Speaker 2: tandem of Nico Horner and Nick Madrigal in the middle infield.
Speaker 2: That's hot for the next five years. That's hot.
Speaker 1: That is good. That's pretty good, isn't it.
Speaker 2: You want to talk about that Kimberl deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about your White Sox like they did
Speaker 1: a bunch of moves. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean shit, dude, Kimberl from the Cubs to
Speaker 4: the White Sox for Nick Madrigal and Cody Hoyer. Let's
Speaker 4: talk about the return. That's a massive hall. I think
Speaker 4: that is the biggest hall for the Cubs. That great there,
Speaker 4: It's amazing Nick Madrigal. So Chris Ronji six to seventy
Speaker 4: the score he's currently in for Danny Parkins right now.
Speaker 4: And I was just listening to their immediate reaction. A
Speaker 4: because my uncle was talking about it and ifect his
Speaker 4: baseball mind, but B because I want to know what
Speaker 4: the local sports talk scene is saying about these deals
Speaker 4: right away. And Chris Ronji, who hosted White Sox pre
Speaker 4: game forever, brought up a great point. There is so
Speaker 4: much value in knowing what you're gonna get. And while
Speaker 4: Pete Pearl Armstrong poses the possibility of being a three
Speaker 4: hundred hitter with twenty five bombs, you know that Nick
Speaker 4: Madgal is a three hundred hitter. You know you know
Speaker 4: that he's probably not an all star starter. Second Baseman,
Speaker 4: but you know you're getting two ninety to three ten
Speaker 4: with him every single year, and Cody Hoyer legitimately has
Speaker 4: closer potential. The guy is so good. I love watching
Speaker 4: Cody Hoyer throw.
Speaker 3: I agree, I thought I thought it was an overpay
Speaker 3: easily from the White Sox. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: you you just created a super bowlpen like back when
Speaker 3: the Yankees were like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, when they
Speaker 3: were throwing, when they were ending games in the sixth inning.
Speaker 3: That's what the White Sox have right now. And once
Speaker 3: Eloy is back, once Luis Robert comes back, it's a
Speaker 3: dynamic offense. Losing magical OC hurts a lot, and that's
Speaker 3: why I think it was an overpay. Cody.
Speaker 1: He now fill in. They fill in with Caesar Hernandez,
Speaker 1: which is fine. Fine.
Speaker 3: He's a good player. He's a good player. He's a
Speaker 3: good player. He's a good fit for that lineup too.
Speaker 3: I agree, bats plays good defense, he's he's just a
Speaker 3: solid player with all those dynamic top talents around him,
Speaker 3: like he's going to really thrive.
Speaker 1: I mean, just came out of the deadline with Ryan
Speaker 1: Tepera and Craig Kimball. Listen, that's crazy. That's really good
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Kind of a.
Speaker 4: Couple of quick thoughts on the White Sox here, Seesar
Speaker 4: Hernandez helps because a lot like the Yankees White Sox.
Speaker 4: We know, best team in baseball against left handed pitching,
Speaker 4: best team, but against right handed pitching, you just don't
Speaker 4: really have lefty bats, says Hernandez.
Speaker 2: Is a switch hitter. Nick magical is a right handed
Speaker 2: bat that helps.
Speaker 4: You know you compared it to the Yankees, Dustin, I'm
Speaker 4: going to compare it to another Ale Central team. When
Speaker 4: the Royals won the World Series, game was over in
Speaker 4: the sixth inning because you threw Herrera in the set,
Speaker 4: in the seventh, you threw Waye. Davis the eighth, and
Speaker 4: then Greg Holland in the ninth, and you could fill
Speaker 4: in with any other guy. So now I see Bummer
Speaker 4: in the seventh, Hendrix in the eighth, Kimberl in the ninth,
Speaker 4: vice versa. With those eighth and ninth guys, and you
Speaker 4: fill in with Copek, and you fill in with Crochet,
Speaker 4: you fill in with whoever they'll to Pi.
Speaker 1: I think to Paris should be the seventh inning guy.
Speaker 1: I mean this year he's been phenomenal. Maybe he's better
Speaker 1: than Bumber right now.
Speaker 3: Credible bullpen's probably the baseball Yeah, it's the best bullpen
Speaker 3: in baseball. They have that dynamic offense. I mean, you
Speaker 3: could see c Lucas g Aledo to be Lucas Giolito
Speaker 3: and then if that happens, they're coming out of the al.
Speaker 4: JP Morosi MLB network. He said that, and he posts
Speaker 4: this idea. I really enjoyed hearing this idea. Liam Hendricks
Speaker 4: has been a long man at points. You know, he
Speaker 4: goes two innings, he gets six out saves, he gets
Speaker 4: seven out saves. Why not use him like Cleveland used
Speaker 4: Andrew Miller, where you throw him out there for a
Speaker 4: high leverage sixth, let him go the seventh bridge, the
Speaker 4: gap to to parent in the eighth, and then kimberl
Speaker 4: in the nine.
Speaker 2: Shit, the world is our oyster right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why, that's why Jack screw you. You're talking
Speaker 1: about at the beginning.
Speaker 5: Like oh, the Yankees now and then the big markets.
Speaker 5: While the white Stocks are literally better than them, still,
Speaker 5: they also added a bunch and the Astros added a
Speaker 5: bunch to their bullpen too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, let's they're doing that.
Speaker 6: The Yankees are probably still the third best team, but
Speaker 6: in the Allies, and we're talking about them dominating in
Speaker 6: big markets. No, the Dodgers just keep dominating. That's what
Speaker 6: we're dealing with here. The Yankees did well, but they
Speaker 6: didn't They didn't put them over the top. They needed
Speaker 6: to add a Barrios or a Sureser or a legit
Speaker 6: number one, number two pitcher, or they aren't going to
Speaker 6: compete for a World Series. They may scrape it and
Speaker 6: get a second wild card. But the A's aers so
Speaker 6: really good. A's added Marte, and the Raids are still
Speaker 6: really good.
Speaker 4: A's added Marte. They also added Yan Gomes and Josh Harrison.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Here's the deal I want to talk about. That happened
Speaker 4: earlier today and we got flooded this afternoon. Jose Burrios
Speaker 4: from Minnesota to Toronto for Austin Martin and Simeon Woods Richardson.
Speaker 1: The twins did amazing, that amazing amazing there. That's what
Speaker 1: do you think I mean?
Speaker 3: I thought it was so similar to the Dodger deal
Speaker 3: for Surezer and Turner. So with Barrios you got that
Speaker 3: extra year of control, so they control him through twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two.
Speaker 1: Which is big Austin Martin. They'll be good next year too.
Speaker 3: Yes, Austin Martin is an incredible hitter. I think he's
Speaker 3: gonna I think he's gonna be a really good hitter.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna hit you know, three hundred with
Speaker 3: like good on base percentages. I don't think he's gonna slug.
Speaker 3: I don't think he has a position. And I really
Speaker 3: believe in the bat though.
Speaker 1: But remember we were watching him in the Futures game.
Speaker 1: Smart hitter has good at bats.
Speaker 3: I mean he just he consistently puts together good at
Speaker 3: bats and and that's that's really valuable in alive. It's
Speaker 3: a good complimentary piece, but it's not it's not the
Speaker 3: piece is going to get you over the top. In
Speaker 3: my opinion, I think I think the I think the Twins,
Speaker 3: I think the I think the blue Jays did really
Speaker 3: well there, like I really I do. Like Barrios is incredible.
Speaker 7: When he's on to get outs, is incredible, Like he
Speaker 7: has that breaking ball, he commands the fastball, he's got
Speaker 7: to change up like he's going to push you over
Speaker 7: the top.
Speaker 3: Like, are the blue Jays better than the Yankees? That's
Speaker 3: a legitimate question, right.
Speaker 1: Well, think about their run differential right now is plus
Speaker 1: eighty five. You know what the Yankees is four. So
Speaker 1: if you're looking at that, yeah, the Blue Jays are better.
Speaker 1: And then they just had Jose Barrious. But the Yankees
Speaker 1: out of Joey gallow and Anthony Rizzo, now their lineup
Speaker 1: is incredible and Greg Allen has remains the best hitter
Speaker 1: in that line up.
Speaker 4: We talked about Gallo and did you get a chance
Speaker 4: to talk about Rizzo with Hubbs.
Speaker 1: We did a live reaction to Rizzo. Oh yes, So
Speaker 1: what other trades? What other trades even happened?
Speaker 2: A lot?
Speaker 4: Dude, Uh, let's talk about this one. This was one
Speaker 4: of the weirdest trades that I saw. Philly got Kyle Gibson,
Speaker 4: Ian Kennedy and Hans Krauss from Texas for Spencer Howard,
Speaker 4: our guy, Kevin Goudi and Joss Gessner.
Speaker 6: Oh no way, Kevin, Vin Gowdi drafter that of our
Speaker 6: rival high school was just traded.
Speaker 2: Yep, traded it away.
Speaker 1: Shout out Kevin Goudy, Kyle Gibbs off in high school.
Speaker 4: Kyle Gibson and Ian Kennedy to Philly, how does that
Speaker 4: make any sense?
Speaker 1: So the Phillies needed a starter and they needed a
Speaker 1: bullpen guy, but they needed like way more to be
Speaker 1: considered like legit contenders, right, I mean, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not wrong. Like they needed at least two to three
Speaker 1: more bullpen guys and they needed to improve on defense,
Speaker 1: and they didn't do that, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3: But did they have the prospect castle to get that done.
Speaker 1: They just have Bryson Stott And that's kind of it.
Speaker 3: Really, It's it's it's a thin farm system and it's
Speaker 3: a flawed major league roster and they added a good,
Speaker 3: solid starter and a good reliever. So I mean that's
Speaker 3: pretty much what they could have done in my opinion. Like,
Speaker 3: I'm sure they had offers out for other guys, but
Speaker 3: like teams like the Dodgers and the Yankees and the
Speaker 3: White Sox, they're gonna blow you away because they have
Speaker 3: way better prospects. So it's like they did what they could.
Speaker 3: You got to respect him for going for it. Wheeling
Speaker 3: and Dylan Dave did it again. But I mean you'd
Speaker 3: like this, you'd obviously.
Speaker 1: Like or what is by no matter what, you could
Speaker 1: be the GM for the Pirates, right, now he's like,
Speaker 1: I think we got a shot. We gotta buy.
Speaker 3: How about the Rockies not dealing with story?
Speaker 1: I guess loser of the deadline. They didn't even deal
Speaker 1: John Gray or Marquez or Marquez, they didn't do anything
Speaker 1: or just another lookie right on. Tapia still a Rocky.
Speaker 1: Could have easily traded him and gone a decent return.
Speaker 2: Isn't Freeland still a Rocky too?
Speaker 1: Of course he is. They are. I think they're the
Speaker 1: same team. I don't think they did actually anything.
Speaker 2: Is Seronado still a Rocky?
Speaker 6: Troy Tilwitsky Troy Tilllwinski is still a Rocky? Larry Walker
Speaker 6: still Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know what the Rockies are. They are the Angels
Speaker 3: of the National.
Speaker 1: League, way worse.
Speaker 3: They're they're way worse because they have less talent.
Speaker 1: But like they have less talent.
Speaker 3: Aeronauto and Trevor's story, like all these guys and they
Speaker 3: just they just won't. They're they're so stubborn, you know it, Tori,
Speaker 3: he curves just but.
Speaker 1: It's like it's not even the purgatory that maybe a
Speaker 1: team like the Phillies are in right now. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's hell, Like it's just hell. You know what it is.
Speaker 3: It's bottom of the barrel. It's what they are. Their
Speaker 3: bottom a system. It is no, no, they have a
Speaker 3: bad farm system.
Speaker 1: Like he needed to trade all these guys and they
Speaker 1: did not.
Speaker 4: Two more deals, two more deals that I want to
Speaker 4: go over, one for the Red Sox and then we
Speaker 4: got to finish.
Speaker 2: With the Dodger.
Speaker 4: Massive, massive deal, maybe biggest deal in deadline history. But
Speaker 4: Kyle is the first baseman for the Boston Red Sox now.
Speaker 4: But when he comes back.
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, that's a good bat to add
Speaker 3: to that lineup because they have all those guys at
Speaker 3: the top. So just extending that just a little bit,
Speaker 3: putting Schwarber like in the six or seven hole, like
Speaker 3: he can run into balls, like he'll hit He'll hit
Speaker 3: a bunch of bombs. You know, he's a he's a
Speaker 3: good bat. He'll get on base. He he extends the
Speaker 3: lineup for sure. He's he's a good complimentary piece. He's
Speaker 3: not going to change much for the Red Sox, but
Speaker 3: he might squeak out like a win or two with
Speaker 3: a big home run here or there. So I think
Speaker 3: that was a really good move from the Reds for
Speaker 3: the Red Sox. I mean, can he play first base? Like,
Speaker 3: we have no idea.
Speaker 2: No idea. I think he's played one major league game
Speaker 2: at first base.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean we really don't know because you
Speaker 3: obviously got J. D. Martinez locked up in the DH
Speaker 3: spot right for dugos and left. I mean they got
Speaker 3: they got guys in the outfield. Shorber is not a
Speaker 3: good outfield defender. It's tough to play defense in Boston
Speaker 3: because of the weird dimensions there. So you're banking on
Speaker 3: Shore being able to play first base at a league
Speaker 3: average level, even if he's below average at works, because
Speaker 3: the bad is really.
Speaker 1: That is legit. I think if you if you ask
Speaker 1: Red Sox fans, would they rather Kyle Schwarbur and his
Speaker 1: bad defense at first or Bobby Dalbeck. They're saying like
Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber as soon as I said Bobby nolt Back,
Speaker 1: like like immedia.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I think Red Sox fans are happy. They also didn't
Speaker 1: give up anything for him. It's basically free and I
Speaker 1: know he's hurt right now, but it's still Kyle Schwarber,
Speaker 1: who's got twenty five bums, like he could hit another
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen for the Red Sox and be like
Speaker 1: a six to seven hitter and be still legit. And
Speaker 1: Red Sox fans are comparing the Schwarber deal to the
Speaker 1: Rizzo deal, But the Rizzo and Sharber deals are kind
Speaker 1: of different because the Cubs ate up a lot of
Speaker 1: that salary, so the Yankees gave them better prospects in return.
Speaker 1: While now, if I'm not mistaken, the Red Sox need
Speaker 1: to pay a lot of Schwarber salary and so they
Speaker 1: didn't give up much. So it's kind of like, pick
Speaker 1: your poison. Do you want to pay more? Do you
Speaker 1: want better prospects? Cubs chose better prospects, Nationals chose money.
Speaker 2: So this is the biggest deal in trade deadline history.
Speaker 1: I think it might be. I mean there was Dodters
Speaker 1: have done this before, it seems like, but it's incredible.
Speaker 2: This is big.
Speaker 4: This is three cy youngs in a Hall of Famer
Speaker 4: along with a top what we do We called them
Speaker 4: the third best short stop in baseball Trey Turner. Yeah,
Speaker 4: when you already had the top five three And.
Speaker 1: In his last one hundred and fifty five games he
Speaker 1: has thirty three on runs and thirty sold bases.
Speaker 4: So this is not this is renting both trade. Turner
Speaker 4: has another year of arbitration the Dodgers. Trey Turner is
Speaker 4: a Dodger. Trey Turner might be the shortstop, but Turner
Speaker 4: is going to be the second baseman when he gets
Speaker 4: off this covid il and Corey Seeger is going to
Speaker 4: be the shortstop for the Dodgers in October.
Speaker 2: This is I don't know.
Speaker 4: I can't wrap my head around the magnitude of this deal.
Speaker 4: It's humongous and and what happened is simple. You got
Speaker 4: your three times Cy Young Award winner, and you got
Speaker 4: your top three shortstop in baseball, and you decided to
Speaker 4: let go of your number one and your number two
Speaker 4: prospect and a couple other guys.
Speaker 1: So they didn't give up Who gives a shit, They
Speaker 1: didn't give up nothing.
Speaker 3: The Dodgers absolutely stole those two guys, and the Nationals
Speaker 3: actually did pretty well. Like I agree, that hurts a
Speaker 3: little bit. He's going to be really good. I really
Speaker 3: believe that he's going to be. He's going to be
Speaker 3: a two or three with an outside shot of being
Speaker 3: an ace I've never really liked. And even though he's
Speaker 3: he's putting up big stats right now, huge stats in triple,
Speaker 3: a big approach change at the plate that he desperately needed.
Speaker 3: I still there's been makeup questions, which is something that
Speaker 3: you just kind of straight away from. I don't know
Speaker 3: anything about the other two prospects that gave up, and
Speaker 3: I know the Dodgers system pretty well, so I mean,
Speaker 3: and you add Max Scherzer, who's another.
Speaker 1: You're just like evil laughing there, sitting to yourself.
Speaker 3: Who's a number one on ninety the team's in Major
Speaker 3: League Baseball?
Speaker 2: Is he?
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 1: He the third best pitcher in baseball right now?
Speaker 3: He's up there. He's top five, no doubt. He's got
Speaker 3: this stupid K percentage. The whip is stupid. I mean,
Speaker 3: the stuff is unreal. Do you slaught him in at
Speaker 3: number one or number two behind Bueler, I don't know,
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't matter. It's some amazing games for the
Speaker 3: Dogs so much. He's a dog like he's that guy
Speaker 3: who wants the ball in the postseason. He wants the
Speaker 3: ball in Game seven, similar to Butler. There, it's two
Speaker 3: legit number ones, like two arguably top five pitchers in baseball.
Speaker 3: Buehler is leading the league in innings by the way,
Speaker 3: which is incredible because he's never been a guy who's
Speaker 3: thrown a lot of innings. So you've got two legitimate
Speaker 3: guys that nobody wants to face ever. And then you
Speaker 3: got Juli Arius, who has proven himself time and time again,
Speaker 3: big game pitcher, closed out the World Series for the
Speaker 3: Dodgers last year. And then you got Clayton Kershaw, and
Speaker 3: it's like.
Speaker 1: Allid like, are you kidding?
Speaker 3: As Trey Turner is such an incredibly dynamic player. He's
Speaker 3: one of the fastest guys in the league. He's gonna
Speaker 3: hit three hundred to three twenty, he's gonna hit bombs,
Speaker 3: he's gonna hit doubles, he's gonna play decent defense at
Speaker 3: second base, and he's just like he puts so much
Speaker 3: pressure on the defense. Constantly hit too hot for to
Speaker 3: shortstop and it's a potential hit, Like that's so incredible,
Speaker 3: And the Dodgers just extended their lineup to one through eight.
Speaker 3: It is absolutely incredible. The only easy out right now
Speaker 3: in that lineup and easy as a stretch. It's so
Speaker 3: it's fucked up. It really is, Like it's even if
Speaker 3: they they're they're gonna they're gonna walk their way to
Speaker 3: the World Series. I think it's gonna be pretty crazy
Speaker 3: to watched.
Speaker 2: You got anything to add?
Speaker 3: Peep, no, no, I want.
Speaker 4: To run you through this calendar for Chicago sports. This
Speaker 4: is from Matt Spiegel, Kimberl and the White Sox at
Speaker 4: Wrigley August sixth through eight, White Sox at Cubs August
Speaker 4: sixth through eight, Rizzo and the Yankees at Guaranteed Rate
Speaker 4: to see the White Sox August fourteen and fifteen, Brian
Speaker 4: and the Giants at Wrigley September ten through twelve, Schwarmer
Speaker 4: and the Red Sox at the White Sox September ten
Speaker 4: through twelve, and of course September ten through twelve. That
Speaker 4: twelve is NFL Week one. That's Bears Rams on Sunday nights,
Speaker 4: So Chicagoans are in for hog Heaven September twelfth.
Speaker 1: What is the general vibe round the Chicago cups at
Speaker 1: this point? Have you heard from that? Like, are they
Speaker 1: doing okay? Ever away? Their entire world seris roster. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Everybody is super thankful, they're super sentimental, and they're super sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think sentimental is the one that jumps out the most.
Speaker 4: Everybody is just thank you, Rizzo, thank you KB. Thank
Speaker 4: you Hovey for the memories. But this this felt inevitable,
Speaker 4: and they got a damn good return for those three guys.
Speaker 2: Kimberl Helps, Yeah, I mean it gonna be really good.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really good.
Speaker 4: Okay, dude, walking away from all this, still holding on
Speaker 4: to Brennan Davis, Pete Crow Armstrong.
Speaker 2: You just added. Nico Horner is still here.
Speaker 4: Nick Madrigal's coming in, Adbert Alzalai is still there, Kyle
Speaker 4: Hendrix is still there, Wilson Contreras is still there, Braylan
Speaker 4: Marquez is coming up. And then you've got some young
Speaker 4: guys that have time to pan out, the two guys
Speaker 4: that the Yankee sent, and then Canario and the other
Speaker 4: guy that San Francisco sent.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about the Yankees for a minute. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is something that I've been racking my head around. What
Speaker 1: are they gonna do with Luke Voyse. Luke Voight remains
Speaker 1: a Yankee. You put Rizzo at first base, so now
Speaker 1: you put Luke Voyd at DH. I've been hearing rumors
Speaker 1: that Luke Voyd at DH, and then you put just
Speaker 1: try standon left. You just put Stan in left field,
Speaker 1: let him play outfield. Wait, hold on, Stan, Gallow and
Speaker 1: Judge in the outfield, which is the biggest group of
Speaker 1: humans in a singular outfield.
Speaker 2: Who's playing center? Gallo?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Shit, that lineup is so big. Let's go through it.
Speaker 1: DJ Lemahew's six foot four, Aaron Judge six foot seven.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna ait third? Gallo probably six' five six. Six
Speaker 1: their number four, hitter Gen carlo stand six, Six their
Speaker 1: number five Hitter Anthony rizzo now six' FOUR that i.
Speaker 2: Don't know he's got, Thick forearms THAT'S all. I know, it's, thick.
Speaker 1: Dude regardless, of, height thick, no doubt thickness off. The. Charts,
Speaker 1: Yeah two c's another guy who's. Really thick gary, still
Speaker 1: thick still, hitting well he's like an eight. Hundred ops guy's. A,
Speaker 1: catcher yeah worst defender on, the planet but it. Can
Speaker 1: hit we'll. Take, It glabor torres And g Roshella not
Speaker 1: shrimp's like. Six' one and then you have the best player,
Speaker 1: of them all the shortest, Of Them. All greg allen
Speaker 1: that's the. BIGGEST team ever i.
Speaker 2: Were, Gonna, say rugie.
Speaker 1: Yeah technically We still. Have rubyo o'dor.
Speaker 3: It's.
Speaker 1: A big team what do you guys think. You're gonna
Speaker 1: do is? That DO you OR i just i kind
Speaker 1: of wish they traded for a starter now when you
Speaker 1: consider all that we, Have, ON.
Speaker 3: Offense yeah i mean the pitching and defense is still
Speaker 3: a big question Mark. For the yankees there's No doubt about.
Speaker 1: IT'S almost got i said the defense sort, of got
Speaker 1: worse but it Didn't really because gallo is, a Good
Speaker 1: defender and rizzo is also. A good defender but it
Speaker 1: just seems like If you throw, stanton out there teams
Speaker 1: like too big. To be good if that. Makes any sense.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's still a little one dimensional, with, the
Speaker 3: walk strikeouts. SOME home runs i think There's no doubt
Speaker 3: rizzo sits in the three hole just because he's gonna
Speaker 3: he's gonna be the guy who consistently puts together the
Speaker 3: best at bats. On the Team Maybe, minus AARON judge
Speaker 3: maybe i think you're. Up the middle defense is still,
Speaker 3: not very good and if you.
Speaker 1: Put your j, back at.
Speaker 8: Second that's good, that is good a LOT of which
Speaker 8: i don't like when he's. Playing First, base joey gallo
Speaker 8: how how do we feel about? Him in, center you
Speaker 8: know he's not. A plus runner most of.
Speaker 3: The value that he has on defenses from that cannon.
Speaker 3: That he has there's absolute Cannons in. The yankee outfield
Speaker 3: now you're not for. Sure at home you still got,
Speaker 3: glabre at short You still got gary, behind the plate
Speaker 3: and you're still a little thin, on the rotation and
Speaker 3: there's question marks. In the bullpen but they no, Doubt
Speaker 3: got better there's no. Doubt about that but there's still
Speaker 3: some big issues with THE team that i Don't Think
Speaker 3: the white sox Have or. The, astros have.
Speaker 1: Jack we didn't get to talk to You about. The
Speaker 1: yankee stuff what do you think?
Speaker 4: About, the trades yeah it's overall it felt like they
Speaker 4: stick to THEIR identity that i thought. NEEDED to change
Speaker 4: i Thought that the yankees needed to diversify just, a
Speaker 4: little bit and they did, diversity lefties okay but they
Speaker 4: Got The Lefty, john carlo stanton and then they Got
Speaker 4: Better Than.
Speaker 3: Carlo.
Speaker 4: Joey gallow yeah it's freakd, tanks and strikeouts But, BETTER
Speaker 4: than stanton i.
Speaker 2: Mean, so slightly, Yeah MAYBE.
Speaker 4: Maybe like, I under listen joey gallow, is really good
Speaker 4: But So Is. John carlos stanton he signed a three hundred,
Speaker 4: million Dollar Deal Like john carlos stanton very, Good At
Speaker 4: baseball joey gallow very? Good at baseball does it help
Speaker 4: to have two of, the same guy one batting from,
Speaker 4: the left side one from.
Speaker 8: The?
Speaker 4: Right Side Absolutely is anthony? Rizzo still good is he
Speaker 4: is still an? On Base machine and willie pump out
Speaker 4: ten home runs at the end of this year to?
Speaker 3: The?
Speaker 1: Short?
Speaker 2: Porch yeah probably but who's going to get on base
Speaker 2: for you when you need to? Get on Base?
Speaker 1: Rizzo, and gallo judge who's going to?
Speaker 3: STEAL?
Speaker 2: Second base dj? Who's Gonna steal.
Speaker 1: Saying labor he? Is, stealing bases okay one?
Speaker 4: Out of nine who's gonna? Steal second Base Aside? From
Speaker 4: Glabor Torres, maybe greg allen See your pinchun where do.
Speaker 1: You going to play? On our team.
Speaker 4: Where in the Outfield, It's It's? STANTON judge, GALLO.
Speaker 1: I think i think maybe you're you're starting to do
Speaker 1: some Benching, voint ching stanton like give these guys rest and.
Speaker 2: Then put in space for all these. Immobile, power, bats yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah there is their athletes are not as good as the.
Speaker 3: OTHER best teams i.
Speaker 1: Agree that that's why them even the best Team In.
Speaker 1: The AL east but i think they have an outside
Speaker 1: shot of the, wild card now when before this there.
Speaker 1: Was no hope it seemed.
Speaker 4: Like they did this to contend for. THE wild card
Speaker 4: i don't think they stack up well in. A playoff series,
Speaker 4: They did this bryan sneak. Into The postseason brian cashman
Speaker 4: did this to.
Speaker 3: Save, his job.
Speaker 4: Yeah and while they are, very SEXY moves and i
Speaker 4: think he.
Speaker 3: SAVED his job i think he might have if they. Make,
Speaker 3: the playoffs yeah.
Speaker 1: If they don't, make the Playoffs is FRAN? Cashman the?
Speaker 2: Gm, PROBABLY not yeah i.
Speaker 3: Don't think so might as well just.
Speaker 1: Ended on that we got any more trades, To, Go.
Speaker 2: Over dustin, this, was awesome man appreciate you. Joining.
Speaker 4: AS always pete i guess we'll. Talk, against him yeah we'll.
Speaker 4: Be back on we got an episode Of. Record on
Speaker 4: monday top five gms possibly.
Speaker 2: Post deadline buzz that.
Speaker 4: Could be fun That could be, Funman Number One boiler alert.
Speaker 2: Freeman number, one, all right.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on dustin we didn't do. Top five gms
Speaker 1: what do you think we? Should rank next.
Speaker 3: Oh that's.
Speaker 1: A good.
Speaker 3: One you guys you guys. HAVE ranked everything i don't
Speaker 3: know what else. Serious to rank i'll get back to,
Speaker 3: you on that but you guys have ranked everything you did,
Speaker 3: pretty WELL too so.
Speaker 2: I don't, Know, all right, pete you're ready we're gonna
Speaker 2: say it at. The, same, time.
Speaker 4: Three two, one, Thank you, everybody.
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody