1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,679 Speaker 1: Happy Monday. 2 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome into Texans All Access from the Hounday Texans 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: Radio studio. I'll silent report John Harris here alongside the 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: voice of the Texans. 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Mark Van remarks, good to see you. I haven't seen 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: you for a few days. Hi, Johnny. 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 3: It's been weird because we went to the Combine together. 8 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: I came back early for the Wednesday ceremony opening the 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 3: uh not opening. 10 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: I wish it was opening. 11 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: Wish it was opening right now the new facility for 12 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: the Houston Texans at Bridgeland. And then more Combine content. 13 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: You stayed behind, interviewed more guys. That was awesome, and 14 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 3: we finished out the week with all that content we 15 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: have more. So, Yeah, this has been a busy week. 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: And then Nick got cooking. Yes, you know what I 17 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: call this did the undercard? This is undercard week? You 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: think this is the undercard? This is the undercard because 19 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 3: think about that strong undercard. 20 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: It is strong. 21 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: I don't know how else to define it, though, sometimes 22 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: the undercard is better than the actual main event, right, 23 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: but how else do you define it? Because free agency 24 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: legal tamp ring starts Monday. 25 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: And remember Rember, Nick. 26 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: Said, either on our air waves and I think it 27 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: was or he was on with McAfee said the same 28 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: thing or something. He said it to one or the other, 29 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 3: but he said it's already started. 30 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what's the combine hit? It was on. 31 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: You know GM's talking. People have conversations. Things come up, 32 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: especially with your own players, you know, and you want 33 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: to know if you can get them back or not, 34 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: what their expectations are. 35 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: And that's why we had what we had today. 36 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: We're not why, but one of the reasons why we 37 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 3: had what we had today, which is multiple moves by 38 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: the Texans before lunch hit, we had a feast of 39 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 3: Texans information and breaking news. 40 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: We did. 41 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: So let's go in chronological order in the timeframe in 42 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: which we saw these things happen. Oh please, yes, first 43 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: one happened. Texas have traded Titus. Now wait, you back up. 44 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: All that we're talking about does not become official until 45 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: the start of the new league year next Wednesday. Keep 46 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: that in mind, right, Okay, this is stuff that's going 47 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: to happen, right, but the Texans will on that day 48 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: make it official trade Titus Howard to the Cleveland Browns. Now, 49 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns have five starting free agents on their 50 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: offensive line crazy Nobody and Joe Potonio. It sounds like 51 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: we'll retire Wyatt Teller is available. I know it's a name. 52 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: A lot of Texans fans have hit me up with, Hey, 53 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: what do. 54 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: You think of why Teller? 55 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: I don't think it would be a bad thing, But 56 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: Titus Howard gonna go to the Cleveland Browns. And then 57 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: we found out a short time afterwards he also signed 58 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: a three year extension for additional money with the Cleveland Browns. 59 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: And that's when it crystallized from me. Oh okay, when 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: I saw the money, I went, that makes a. 61 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: Lot of sense. It's great for Titus to make that 62 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 3: money for him. 63 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: Your thoughts about all right? My thoughts are I'm. 64 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: Not surprised because they have big bills to pay and 65 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: they want to make the investment in a way that 66 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: they deem his best for them in the next two 67 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: three years. That's it, and this is not one of 68 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 3: those ways because they have other issues on the O line. 69 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: Let's just say Titus had a contract for the next 70 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: ten years that really team friendly money. Whatever the case was, 71 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: you still weren't going to feel great about where you 72 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: were on the O line and you had to go 73 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: out and spend in free agency and or trade and 74 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: or draft guys. Probably a combination of everything here that 75 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: I'm mentioning and Titus what is he Johnny? Is he 76 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: a guard? Is he a tackle? Is he left guard? 77 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: Is he right guard? He's probably right tackle. In addition 78 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: to those possibilities on the interior, what I'm saying is 79 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: he never really found a home with the Houston Texans, 80 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: and we thank him for a service because he held 81 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: it down in all three spots from time to time. 82 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: He never got to the Pro Bowl level you wanted 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: him to get to when you drafted him in the 84 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: first round of twenty nine nineteen. But Johnny, the media, 85 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: I stay with my teeth clenched. Not everybody you warned 86 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: me that this was coming, Not everybody you want me 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: to sing. 88 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: And I get it. I get it. 89 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: They're trading away in out of their offensive line. And 90 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: they did this just last year. Yeah, we did it 91 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: last year. The Texans did it last year. 92 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: What happened? 93 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: The line played better, Go look it up. They played 94 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: better statistically, they were better. Now, it wasn't great, but 95 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: it was a little bit better. Right, And then they 96 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: did it again, right, and they Also, by the way, 97 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: last year won nine games in a row, make it 98 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: ten with the playoff win, and in that playoff win 99 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: they ran for one hundred and sixty yards. 100 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: So I'm not saying they were the finished product. They weren't. 101 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: They need to do more. We all know it, we 102 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: all see it. And everything they did last offseason. Not 103 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: everything worked, but they drafted ursery that seemed to work 104 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: pretty well. 105 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: We'll see where it goes from here. 106 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: But the bottom line here is you cannot complain about 107 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: the offensive line and then complain when they try to 108 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 3: fix it again. All right, they're trying to do more 109 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: to fix it. They're trying to make it better. What 110 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: do you want them to do? Do nothing? What are 111 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: you gonna say? Then they're doing nothing? Right right right? 112 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: You gotta do something. They're not done yet. They are 113 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: not satisfied with what they did. Maya copa. They a copa. 114 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: They know it that they're not as good as they 115 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: want to be. They feel like they should have gone 116 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl. Whatever they feel, but let them cook. 117 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: This is like going into the kitchen. The cook is 118 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: starting the meal and they put some oil in the 119 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: pan and you're like, oh my gosh, there's oil in 120 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: the pan. It's all wrong. It's all wrong. They seasoned 121 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: the cast iron skillet. Oh my gosh, I don't like it. 122 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: You haven't even seen the meat yet. You haven't even 123 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: seen what they're preparing yet. I get it. We're all 124 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: gonna comment in real time, but let them do their thing. 125 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: I know. I like Titus too. We we love talking 126 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: to Titus. 127 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people have feelings about Titus 128 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: because he's good with the media. 129 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: You know, he's a good guy to talk to. He 130 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: really is. It's interesting you say that. 131 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: I love the tightest story the former quarterback all I 132 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: love it. 133 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: But they got to get better, and this is what 134 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: they're doing. Look, will they do it right? I don't know. 135 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: We'll all watch together in twenty six. Will it be better. 136 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: Maybe it'll only be incrementally better. Maybe it'll be a 137 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: lot better. Maybe it'll be worse. I don't know. But 138 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: they're gonna try something else here. They got more work 139 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: to do. Next week, one week from tonight, it could 140 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: be completely different than it is right now. 141 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: I completely, one hundred percent agree with you, and we 142 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: can go through different situations. I remember in twenty twenty 143 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 2: four when Saquon went to Philly and Derrick Henry went 144 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: to the Ravens and Josh Jacobs and are going to 145 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: the packers, and everybody in their. 146 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: Collective was freaking that, you know what, total disaster. 147 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: And I was like, look, man, relax, Yeah, you don't 148 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: solve everything on day one, and what you do on 149 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: day three you made it deal for Joe Mixing. 150 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: Now, Joe had a tremendous twenty twenty four. 151 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: Unfortunately Joe got hurt and I and I understand where 152 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, well, that's why you'll freeze. 153 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: So you make trades. You don't. 154 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: You don't trade for a twenty nine year old running 155 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 2: back what you're like, start because how is Bigley's twenty 156 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: twenty five right? You're living theoretically, guys are gonna get 157 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: banged up. 158 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: It happens, happened, It happens. So it's a freak thing. 159 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: To my point, and yet beyond it kind of emphasizes 160 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: what you're trying to say. I know what fans will 161 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: say and I can't really and and some media will 162 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: say this, and I can't faultimate in a sense because 163 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: they will say, but how long is it gonna take 164 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 2: how come it's been year after year we haven't put 165 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: this thing together to have a good offensive line. 166 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: And what I would say that to people. 167 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: Is no offense, But all right, go ahead, you do 168 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: it well because I guarantee you want to come up 169 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: with a whole lot better. Because in the end, I 170 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: know a lot of people will say, well, Nick struggle. 171 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: To Kenny Green. How many teams would have taken Kenny 172 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: Green to that spot. 173 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 3: I know a number of them would have or close 174 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: enough to it, right, And everybody have him as a 175 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: first round talent somewhere in the first round min maybe late. 176 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: It was a collective first round talent, right. 177 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: And then it's not working out and it happens. Yeah, 178 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: that's another thing. It's you and I were talking about 179 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: this off the air, the GM coach who made that pick, 180 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills situation. You know, it's always convenient. I 181 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: wouldn't have made that pick. They wanted the guy, so 182 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: I took him, all right, But who would you have 183 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: taken and how many other teams would have taken that 184 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: guy at least within a few packs. 185 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: You don't tell me who you would have taken. 186 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: Five years down road, Bill polling, Tell me who you 187 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: would have taken right there on the spot when that happened. 188 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 2: So look, and so I can understand the frustration. I 189 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: think we're all frustrated at the fact that we've taken 190 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 2: rips at it and it just hasn't come to fruition. 191 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean you stow your hands up and 192 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: go what average. Just what we got is what we got. No, 193 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: you've got free you've got free agent dollars to spend. 194 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: You've got a defense. And I bring up the defense 195 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 2: because the defense will keep you in any ballgame possible. 196 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: And you don't have to spend a ton of money 197 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: on the defense. You might have to fix a window here, 198 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: you might have to fix, you know, a shower head there, 199 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 2: but you don't have to renovate a whole entire kitchen 200 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: over there. You're good over there. So let's use those 201 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: dollars on your offensive side. You have ways to change 202 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: some things. And and and I think one of the 203 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: things that has become I want to make sure I 204 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: say this right because I don't want to take away 205 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: from Titus, because I think Titus played hard. I think 206 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: Titus did a lot for this team because of his versatility, yes, 207 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: a lot. And and and I think that Titus was 208 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: rewarded with that with a second contract, and he played 209 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: at times, well, I don't know that he ever played 210 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: at the level they expected to. And I feel like 211 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: they're looking at it going, well, you know what, if 212 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: we're going to renovate, let's just blow it up. 213 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: Take it down to the studs. I e. 214 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: We've got one stud that we think can be a 215 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: stud and that's Arion's Airstree. And let's build around it 216 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: with the guys that we think fit our swarm culture 217 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: to a tee. And when they went out and they 218 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: got if you look at the guys that they brought 219 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: in last year or even the last couple of years 220 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: in the draft, and Jew Scruggs will talk about him 221 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: in a second Blake Fisher, Trent Brown, cam Robinson Lake 222 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: and Tomlinson, Andrews, Jake Andrews. 223 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: They don't say ditty squat. They are not. 224 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: They are offensive linemen into the truest sense. Now, are 225 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: they really really good football play? We hope that they're 226 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: going to be at some point. A couple of them 227 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: proved not at this point in their careers. But there 228 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: is a specific thing they are looking for with their 229 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: offensive line and they haven't found it across the board 230 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: yet and. 231 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: They're still working on it. They exactly what other choice 232 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: do you have? So you throw all that on top 233 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: of the fact that as you sit there Sunday at 234 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: home and you're watching the combine and you're like stud 235 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: stud stud stud stud. 236 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: Stud on the O line. I mean it was loaded. 237 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: Now it should be because there were a lot of offensive 238 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: linemen and other position players that decided not not testing, 239 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: not doing it. They knew they weren't going to test 240 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: for whatever reason. At the level that the guys that 241 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: were gonna test, there were some shows put on. Now, 242 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: does that hurt the Texans in a sense that maybe 243 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: there is more clamoring for these offensive linemen for twenty 244 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: eight Conic last year, Oh we'll get great Donovan Jackson 245 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: or Tyler Booker, one of them will follow to us 246 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: at twenty five. And nope, because yes, offensive linemen are valued, 247 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: but Texans have twenty eight, thirty eight, fifty nine, sixty nine. 248 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: They have those four picks, and we'll get to the 249 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: rest of it a second. Those four picks. You can 250 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: go get two of those studs and start with them. 251 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: And that's after free agency, after free agent and whatever 252 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: trade they might make. 253 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: So what happens if they spend dollars and get a 254 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: rock solid free agent, they then spend two of those 255 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: top four picks and they put them on offensive linemen 256 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: instead of a running back. We'll get to that in second. Now, 257 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, maybe you've got another rock solid 258 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: three starters coming in to go with Ariante, and you 259 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: can figure out who that fifth is in some way, 260 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: shape or form. 261 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: The way they coached it last year, the way they 262 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: played and they improved. When I say they were better, 263 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: you look at sack percentage, interception percentage, the passing game 264 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: with the O live. They didn't have a running back 265 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: like Joe Mixon last year. So the year they were 266 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: able to run the ball in big pops with Joe Mixon. 267 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: But we all saw what happened with pass pressure in 268 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, right, and that was with Laramie playing right, 269 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: and so it was it was a rough go and 270 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: it wasn't Laramie's fault. It was just the line wasn't 271 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: good enough and they had to change the whole culture. 272 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: That's what we have. 273 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: Cole Popovich that's why we are where we are. But 274 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: we all knew this too, with what they did last year. 275 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: We looked at it and said, they're probably not going 276 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: to put together the Electric Company here in year one. 277 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: This are too data A reference sports dated. I don't 278 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: get that one. 279 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: That's OJ Simpson's offensive line in Buffalo in the seventies, right, 280 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: I mean, Oj was. 281 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: A great back. It was called the Electric Company because 282 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: they turned on the juice. Yeah that was what Yeah, 283 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: that's what it was. But I'm glad you brought that up. 284 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: Is really good and I really shouldn't have referenced OJ, 285 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: I guess, but it happens because he was a good 286 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: football player, among other things. 287 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: So let's get back to reality here. 288 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 3: And we all knew that it wasn't gonna be the 289 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 3: finished product, probably correct that you were going to have 290 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: more work to do this offseas well. As it turns 291 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: out you're changing it out even more than we thought. 292 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: I thought Titus would be here somehow, because you don't 293 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: want to have to replace everybody in my mind, but 294 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: clearly in their minds, we need to replace more than 295 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: we But as soon as I saw three for sixty three, 296 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: I understood exactly how three year, sixty three million, and 297 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: so he'll get from the Browns. 298 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: As soon as I saw that Mark, I was like, 299 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: I knew exactly what he. 300 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: Wanted a deal, and it's time right, and this team's 301 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: got big bills to pay next year. Kamari and Kiln 302 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: are going into year four. We all know what that means. 303 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: When you're on a four year contract. They deserve contracts. 304 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to make decisions on those guys, and 305 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to think about how hard that's gonna be. 306 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: So they have to do a lot of financial planning. 307 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: Nick Cassio's got to get the spreadsheet out, do a 308 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: lot of financial planning for twenty seven, twenty eight, that 309 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: kind of thing. 310 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: But you want to be really good in twenty six. 311 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: This is how they feel like they can do it. 312 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: Not extend Titus at those dollars, because correct, is he 313 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: a left guard? Is he a right tackle? What is 314 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: He's versatile? He's great, but that's not gonna fit with 315 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: what we want to do here. 316 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: So he got work to do. 317 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's all gonna be roses and sunshine 318 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: and rainbows, and no, you have to figure this out 319 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: and give them a minute here. We just got started. 320 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: It's not even legal tampering yet. Let's not freak out yet. 321 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what it's time to freak out. Okay, 322 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: week three, that's when it's time to freak out. And 323 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: I said the same thing last year. 324 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: And you know what Week three was. We freaked out, 325 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: We freaked out, freaked out, we freaked out. Week three 326 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: I was, is this gonna happen? We're too great for this. 327 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: And then you went to the Ravens after beating the Titans, 328 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: you went to the Ravens and it was like, okay, 329 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: a little better, and then they started to play a 330 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: little bit better. And you know, one night in a row, right, 331 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: you won twelve games, right, you just didn't play well 332 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: against the Patriots, darn it. So right now that could 333 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: happen with the best line in Texans history, by the way, 334 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: which it did, yeah twice, where you didn't play well 335 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: in the divisional round, you had the best line in 336 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: Texans history. You had the equivalent of a Hall of 337 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 3: Fame quarterback perhaps playing offensive line for you. Right, those 338 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: five guys, the way they operated together was all right, 339 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: Hall of Fames A lot to put on those guys. 340 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: But as a line, as a unit, right, I mean 341 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: that whole line. You want to talk about Ring of Honor, 342 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: You could probably put that line in the Ring of Honor. 343 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: Yep, it's that good a line. It was that good, 344 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: you know. 345 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: And Winston was changed out for why am I forgetting 346 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: his name right? Derek Newton. Winston was changed. Somebody pointed 347 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: this out to me today, said, have they had a 348 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: good line since Eric Winston left? 349 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm like yes. 350 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: In twenty twelve they won twelve games and Derek Newton 351 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 3: playing right tackle. They've won seven divisions since then. Let's 352 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: all calm down a little bit. 353 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty four, Chicago Bears offensive line was dreadful, Yeah, dreadful. 354 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: Man Darnel Right, a first rounder that they had a 355 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: right tackle and he struggled in the first couple of years. 356 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: But last offseason they made a trade with the Rams 357 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: for Jonah Jackson to becoming at guard. Then they traded 358 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: for Joe Toney, who won the Protector of the Year 359 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: award in the NFL. Then they signed Drew Dallman unrestricted 360 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: free agent to play center. They kind of had a 361 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 2: little bit of a rotating cast of characters who left 362 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 2: tackle and it was gonna be Asie Trapilo from out 363 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: of Boston College who had a really good year but 364 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 2: he got hurt badly at the end of the year. 365 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: So okay, but up to that point he had played well, 366 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: they'd played well. They reset that thing in one year, 367 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: and I feel like that's kind of what kind of 368 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: it is. What the Texans need to be able to 369 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: do is to reset that thing really in one year, 370 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 2: but it's gonna feel like two years because he got 371 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: ursery last year and now you got to get the 372 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: other pieces this year. Hopefully Jake Andrews could be that 373 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: guy at center in his second year as a starter here, 374 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: and then you can feel like, hey. 375 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: We got two of those pieces in twenty five. 376 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: Now we got to find the other three and twenty 377 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: six and then we can be off in rocket and 378 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 2: they can open whole for one aka Knuckles David Montgomery. 379 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: Because the second piece of news is the Texans traded 380 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: for the running back that at the combine it was 381 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: rumored that he wanted out of Detroit, that Detroit was 382 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: looking for a trade. Detroit ends up trading him to 383 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: the Texans for a fourth round pick, A seventh round 384 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: pick and the aforementioned Juice Scruggs. Juice gets an opportunity 385 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: to go to Detroit, going to reset his career. I've 386 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 2: always thought very highly a Juice. I love Juice. I 387 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: love Juice the person I love. His family was always cool. 388 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: He just had a kid this past November. I believe 389 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: it was and I will cheer for Juice wherever he goes. 390 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: The consummate professional, he never bitched or griped about not 391 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: having a spot, getting hurt down the rotto. He's just 392 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: a great guy and he gets a shot in Detroit. 393 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: Now people have talked about, well did you overpay? Greg 394 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 2: Rose thought a great comment I'm paraphrasing when you saw 395 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: the initial report from Madam Schefter he set a fifth rounder. 396 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: Then the deal was reported later by Diana Russinia. I 397 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 2: think she's the first one I saw it. Others had 398 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: it fourth round or seventh rounder. A jew Scruggs that 399 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: there was a team that must have jumped in. Benjamin Albright, 400 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: who covers the NFL from Denver, knows Lebronco as well, 401 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: immediately tweeted Denver and that would make sense because they 402 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: don't have JK Dobbins. 403 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: They've been hurting for another running back. Mart You get 404 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: him on a friendly deal. 405 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: You got him on a really friendly free agents are 406 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: going to command a hefty price, big, So you're not 407 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: in that derby next week. 408 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: You got Montgomery. Let me ask you this. 409 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: You're going to war this weekend. You're playing a game 410 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 3: this weekend. You got Montgomery, Woody Marks, Juwar, Jordan and 411 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: British Brooks. 412 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: I feel good. I feel pretty good about that. 413 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: David Montgomery averaged four point five last year, four point 414 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 3: one for his career. He caught twenty four passes last year. 415 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 3: That's the team high for running back receptions for the Texans. 416 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: That was Woody Mars with twenty four catches. Now Montgomery 417 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 3: had twenty four catches. I don't have to look. I 418 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 3: know Jamiir Gibbs had a lot more than twenty four catches. 419 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: So Montgomery as a reserve of sorts. I know they're 420 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: a complimentary one two punch and he sometimes starts in 421 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 3: Gibbs and they trade off or whatever. But Montgomery can 422 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: catch the ball and he's a he's two hundred and 423 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: thirty pounds. This guy will run through people. Now, you 424 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: got to build the line in front of him. We 425 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: all know this, but I feel pretty good. I also 426 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: think this says no Nick Chubb because that's the Nick 427 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: Chubb role, right, And we'll see how they work it 428 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 3: out with he and Marx. But Montgomery's a proven vet 429 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 3: in this league also, Johnny, you know, he fits the 430 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 3: culture all right. 431 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: And look, that's not everybody. 432 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: People get sick of hearing that sometimes, but they shouldn't 433 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 3: because it's important to keep everybody together when times get tough. 434 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: He won that Brian Piccolough Award twice in Chicago, and 435 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: that's sportsmanship, teammate, all of that. The Brian Piccolough Award 436 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 3: is a big deal in the Bears organization. He won 437 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: that twice when he was in the Chicago organization. 438 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:54,239 Speaker 1: That's right. 439 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: So there, that's right, and he is. I'm just looking 440 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: at my scouting report. I had him as the third 441 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: running back. I don't know what I had in the 442 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: draft where he was taking. I think that's where I 443 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: had him. I'm making sure that I've had that. Yeah, 444 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 2: And I'm just looking at my right up on him 445 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: and it's it's glowing. As I loved him coming out. 446 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: I just thought he would be a really good NFL 447 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 2: running back, and he has been that he's not as 448 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: he has not had as much tread off the tire 449 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: the last couple of years because he's been sharing the 450 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: carries with Jamir, and then this past year in particular, 451 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 2: Jamir had probably the bulk of those carries. 452 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: But you know what this dude did. Look at his touchdowns. 453 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: He scores in Detroit double digits. 454 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: I think he was thirteen to twelve and then this 455 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: year was eight even with a significantly I noticed you. 456 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: I noticed this. 457 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 3: Somebody in my household has Gibbs on their fantasy team 458 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: and it was like one of those Varsity Blues things 459 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 3: where it's like Gibbs gets you down there inside the ten. 460 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 3: Now Montgomery's coming in to take the touchdown away exactly. 461 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: But you know a guy scoring touchdowns in the red zone. 462 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: Sign me up for some of that, please. 463 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: So this, as Mark pointed out, probably takes you out 464 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: of the free agent sweepstakes for Kenneth Walker and Travis Etn. 465 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: But you're getting a guy on a really solid running 466 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 2: back contract that comes in here, provides all kinds of 467 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: leadership ability in both pass and run game. He gives 468 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: you that swarming nature, He and Woody. You just think 469 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: about those two right now, we talked about you mentioned 470 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: George Jordan and British Brooks. I do think a rookie 471 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: will be added to that mix. Okay, maybe a that's 472 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: a little different from these guys. And so now you 473 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: gotta find the offensive line that provides for them. But 474 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: you've got money to spend in free agency. Kate Madge 475 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: from Carolina is a guy that strikes me as a 476 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: as a Texan kind of very swarming behavior. 477 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: I think he would be up there for dollars. 478 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: Wyatt Teller, he's a little bit older, but I like 479 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: the veterans, like what Trent Brown did for them this year. 480 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 2: I thought what Trent gave them was great. And Whyatt 481 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: Taylor's already said goodbye to Cleveland, so why not say 482 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: hello to Houston. So they're gonna be There's gonna be 483 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: some activity and as we found out today, there could 484 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 2: be more trades happening now when it comes to the draft, 485 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: nobody knows it well like me. But if somebody else 486 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: is gonna qualify my man, Fran Duffy from All Sports 487 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: Philly covers it like no other. He's gonna give us 488 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: his thoughts on some of the things that we sought 489 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: to combine that you can get excited about, Guys, you 490 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: got excited about yesterday watching in the old line room. 491 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: We'll do that next right here on Texans All Access TEPING. 492 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 2: Everybody, welcome back to this Monday EDITI of Texans All 493 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: Access from nowday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, 494 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: Football on a sideline reporter. 495 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: Interesting day in Texans Land. 496 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 2: Titus Howard traded this morning to Cleveland Browns for a 497 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: fifth rounder. Then the Texans turned around and made a 498 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: deal with the Detroit Lions for running back David Montgomery 499 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: for a fourth seventh and Juice Scruggs. 500 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: We talked about Juice earlier. 501 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: I love that dude, and I hope he gets a 502 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: great shot in Detroit to be a center or guard, 503 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 2: whatever it might be for him and just become the 504 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: player that we all thought he was going to be. 505 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: But do it for Detroit. So best luck to Juice 506 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: anti Titus as they go out the door. But Demo's 507 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: coming in David Mottgomery. Now that might change a little 508 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 2: bit of the draft strategy. Will see when it comes 509 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: to draft strategy thoughts, on draft picks. My man Fran 510 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 2: Duffy from All City Philly. He is their draft expert. 511 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 2: He does a great job. He's a good friend of mine. 512 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 2: I would bring him on the air finding trust him. 513 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: You guys will love him. Here's Fran with me at 514 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: the combine talking draft. 515 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: All right. I am joined now by one of my favorites, 516 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: one of my good friends. 517 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: Look, when you live in this draft community, in some sense, 518 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: you get a chance to kind of rub shoulders with guys. 519 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: You meet guys. 520 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: This next guest and I got to meet each other 521 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: watching the broad joke. It's a combine sow. Fran Duffy 522 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: from All City Philly draft expert, extraordinary. 523 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: That's how we met. We met. We'd kind of seen 524 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: each other, maybe communicated a little bit be the Eagles 525 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: for a long time. 526 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: But you have been straight draft and you were one 527 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: of those people that I respect and enjoy listening to, 528 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: watching reading. 529 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: You're the best friend, Duffy. Appreciate you man. 530 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 4: How you doing John, I appreciate it and the feeling 531 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: is very mutual. I'm doing great, man. I'm excited to 532 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: be here in Indy. It's one of my favorite things 533 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: of the year. One of my favorite weeks of the 534 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 4: entire calendar. So it's great to be back and excited 535 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 4: for the action to get going here. 536 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so I give you credit. In fact, I was 537 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: just discussing this a little bit earlier on the show. 538 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 2: I give you a lot of credit because I went 539 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: to the Senior Bowl in twenty three and I watched 540 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: a certain receiver from Iowa State, and I was really 541 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: excited to see. 542 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Him, and I was like, I just don't see it, man, 543 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not a big fan. Came to 544 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: the combine. 545 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: We're sitting there watching the broad jump, and I remember 546 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 2: you said, hey, how do you feel about Xavier Hutchinson? 547 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: And I was like eh, And he goes and you 548 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: said take another look. I was like, all right, man, 549 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: Fran knowsball. I'll take another look. And I remember going 550 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: and grabbing a couple of games, went door filling department, 551 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: said hey, give me, I was stayed against a couple 552 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: of teams. 553 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: Give me the Texas game. Let me go check it out. 554 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: And he was right. 555 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: You were absolutely right about Xavier Hutchinson. He has been 556 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: the perfect fit for this team. 557 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: I know. 558 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: Maybe you can't look back too too far. 559 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 2: But what do you remember about Xavier Hutchinson that sold 560 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 2: you on selling me on him being the right fit 561 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: for us. 562 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 4: You know, I think to me it was the competitiveness 563 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 4: factor that that really stood out. 564 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: You know. 565 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 4: I think there was the the aspect of him working 566 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: over the middle of the field. You saw the effort 567 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 4: as a blocker. You saw the effort at the catch point, 568 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: the urgency at the catch point with the ball in 569 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: his hands. He was got to transition quickly from from 570 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 4: receiver to runner, you know. And that's the thing is 571 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 4: that he wasn't like a overwhelming athlete, right, So it 572 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 4: was like all right, like six two two three, solid 573 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 4: size across the floor. 574 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: You know. 575 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: He ran in the mid four to five. So I'm like, 576 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 4: all right, like he's gonna end up dropping. But man 577 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 4: to me, like just a good football player. Yeah, you know, 578 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 4: reminiscent in ways of like I'm on Ross Saint Brown 579 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 4: guy who I really liked, Same Brown when he was 580 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 4: a top thirty player for me when he came out. Yeah, 581 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: I didn't see him quite to that to that team, 582 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: but similar archetype of receiver. 583 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this because I know that 584 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 2: this happens to me during draft weekend, and I know 585 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: that throughout draft weekend you're talking about it. You're you know, 586 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: whether it's podcast or doing live radio. I know for me, 587 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 2: I do live radio from the. 588 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: Beginning to the end, YEP, and so I get I 589 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 4: give very visceral just here's my reaction. 590 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, A lot of times things happen. I know this 591 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: happened with Brevin Jordan. I have Brev as a top 592 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: forty player. He doesn't go to the fifth round, and 593 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: you're in your mind going, okay, well he's still up there. 594 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: What happened? What happened that fans wann't know? Okay? What happened? 595 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 2: For a guy like am On Ra You see him, 596 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: you have him, a pretty high grade on him, and 597 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: then you see him go what, I don't know. 598 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: He's famously knows what the number is. 599 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: But like sixteenth receiver in that draft fifteen sixteenth draft, 600 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: I know he's after Nico Collins in the twenty twenty 601 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: one draft, and he can recite them chapter and verse. 602 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: As you're watching that go on, what's going on in 603 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: your mind? Like, man, did I miss on him? What 604 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: did I miss on him? I'm right, they're wrong? What's 605 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: kind of your feeling is you're watching something like that 606 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: on the fold. 607 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, there are definitely times where it's case by case 608 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 4: where uh I am expecting it coming in. I know, 609 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 4: I'm hot, I'm the I know I'm the high man, 610 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 4: like I know. So there are those instances. Then there 611 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 4: are some where I'm like, all right, this came out 612 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 4: of left field. That's when the panic sets him. Yeah, 613 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 4: you know, like, well, look like when Shador fell last year, 614 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 4: yea was not like surprise, you know, it was it 615 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: was shocking, you know. We there was a video that 616 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: we posted that, uh. I mean we kind of like 617 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 4: laugh at it now obviously it's it's crazy. But like 618 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 4: when Cleveland traded up and we're live on the set 619 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: and Cleveland trades up and they're like, oh is this for? 620 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 4: And I got I got a text from somebody it 621 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 4: was like it's it's it's not Story's and I was 622 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: like it's Gabriel and everyone is like everyone else sets 623 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: like I'm sitting there and I'm like I've got goosebumps, 624 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 4: thinking like it's this is crazy. 625 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: But it's just like uh oh man, like this is 626 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: this is bad. 627 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 4: But it wasn't completely out of left field right, and 628 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 4: so I think that there are times where it's unexpected, 629 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 4: there are times where you have a little bit of 630 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 4: an inkling, but you're still because all it takes is one, right, 631 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 4: and we know how that that's right, that's exactly right. 632 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: All it takes is one. But I have that feeling 633 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: as I'm going through I'm like, man, I was really 634 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: high in this guy. 635 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: And you know, I'll talk about those particular players, especially 636 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 4: as it relates to the Texans. 637 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, John, you were rying this guy. What happened? 638 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I'd like 639 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: to be able to tell you. But here is why 640 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,959 Speaker 2: I'm hine guy. But then as time goes on, all 641 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm on ras Is stud and You're like, 642 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: take a look, yep, I had it. 643 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: I had it right here. This is the reasons. 644 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: And look we all miss I've got mine, which which 645 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: I mean my famous one in Houston people know very 646 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: well is Dwayne Brown. 647 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: I missed on Dwayne, and I missed in a very 648 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: very loud and live way. 649 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: Uh, and people saw it and hurt. It's funny because 650 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: over the years, Dwayne and I've got to be good 651 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: good friends. But we always miss that happens as well. 652 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: But there are obviously some makes. So let's talk about 653 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: this draft in particular frame. Yep, I want you, I 654 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: want you to so tell me on a quarterback not 655 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: not for us, but just sell me on a quarterback 656 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: that you think has an NFL future in this draft 657 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: not named for Nana Mendozo. 658 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: Can you do it? Yeah? I can. I'm gonna go. 659 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Garrett nel Smier. Okay, player that 660 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 4: we saw live down to the senior ball. 661 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: Ye. 662 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: I thought he was the best quarterback in Mobile. He 663 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 4: was my QB one coming into the year. 664 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: Yep. 665 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 4: And you know the obviously, look the big reservation is 666 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 4: small sample size. 667 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: He ended up. 668 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: He finished his college career with twenty three starts, which 669 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: is a low number. It's above that twenty threshold that 670 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 4: everybody points to, but still not a ton of runway 671 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 4: as an NFL or as a college starter. And when 672 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 4: I look at Garrett ol Smeier last year, what got 673 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 4: me excited was, all right, like, this kid's ambitious, he's 674 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: gonna test windows, he's gonna work the middle of the field. 675 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 4: There's a toughness and a poise aspect to him. I 676 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 4: think when you look at the football character, all that 677 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: stuff comes back extremely clean. He's he's really really tough, 678 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: you know, all the stuff in like high leverage moments 679 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 4: to the things that we love about about Fernanda Mendoz So, 680 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 4: I think some of that showed up. He had a 681 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: bunch of fourth quarter comebacks last year age twenty twenty four. 682 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 4: This year, he got the injury, and it's a multifaceted 683 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 4: injury because it was the core muscle oblique stuff that. 684 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: Cut the season shorty. 685 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: But the thing that is worrying teams is the knee 686 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 4: and that has been like that was a problem in 687 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 4: training camp. 688 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was tough. It's a lingering thing. 689 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 4: And so I think that for some coaches and first 690 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 4: organizations that's going to be a concern, especially for a 691 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 4: guy who's six' one two, Two, like he's not the 692 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 4: biggest quarterback that, said like to, me like. 693 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: The, intangibles YE i love the. 694 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 4: Floor he's not an overwhelming physical talent like athletically you, 695 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 4: know arm strength like. Not it's not a horsepower. There. 696 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 4: YEAH i think he'll have a solid week this week 697 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 4: and he's gonna tell he's gonna look good, interviews but 698 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 4: the medical is gonna be. 699 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: Big. Yeah. 700 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely and the one thing being a coach's, Kid i'm 701 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: always my ears perk up WHEN i, Know, okay that's a, 702 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: cow that's a coach's. 703 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: Kid. 704 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: YEP i felt like at The Senior, bowl and you've 705 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: been there number of, times you know this as. Well 706 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: the very first day of The Senior bowl can be 707 00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: an absolute cluster. 708 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: Blue. 709 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah because you Know, cadence everything's. Off you're trying 710 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: to move guys in, motion they're not lined up right 711 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: the Exes where the why? 712 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Is where the? 713 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: Exes you're trying to get everybody lined, up and the 714 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: offense can't get. Anywhere and there were moments of that 715 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: at The Singer bowl this. Year BUT i felt like 716 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: when Nas meyer was in, charge it felt like everything 717 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: kind of got in. 718 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: Place everything was in. 719 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: Place they didn't have as many, Disruptions AND i don't 720 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: take that for, granted especially when you're in that kind of, 721 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: situation because it shows he did his, Homework he did 722 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: his work during the. 723 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: Week. 724 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: Yep he is gonna be interesting to follow if you 725 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: need a, quarterback, though good luck this. Year it's gonna be. 726 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: Tough so with that, said we know the. 727 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: Quarterback class is more twenty twenty seven than it is 728 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Six. 729 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: Yep running Back Jeremiah, love Maybe Jennari. Price after, that 730 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: it becomes very. Interesting wide receivers got a lot of. 731 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: Depth noblelieue, Neighbors. Yep where is the strength in this? 732 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: Draft in your? 733 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: Opinion pass? Rush, OKAY i think. 734 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: THAT i think when you're looking at the edge rushers 735 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 4: in this, class that's a this is a good group 736 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: of edge. Rushers when you look At Keldric, falk who's 737 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 4: the guy THAT i am definitely going back, to you, 738 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 4: know closing the loop on guys are higher On, Yep 739 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 4: i'm sticking my knock out On keldric. 740 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: Fall you AND i are on board with. THAT i 741 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: mocked him to The. Ravens he just feels like a raven. 742 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: Man he just feels like a. 743 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: RAVEN i DO i hate saying, that but THAT'S i 744 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: know that's they're, saying play like a ra like a. 745 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: Raven he just feels like watching him like he's a. 746 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: Raven. 747 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 4: YEAH i mean it's a guy that plays extremely. 748 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: HARD. 749 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 4: Yep sophomore captain goes to represent the team at media 750 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 4: days in THE sca as a. Sophomore he's got, size 751 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: he's got, versatility clean medical, record the athleticism for two 752 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 4: hundred and eighty. Pounds you, know he had seven sacks 753 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. Four, yeah he had to last. Year so 754 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: everyone's knocking on the. Production it's, like all, right, yeah 755 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 4: he didn't get sacks this past. Year but this guy's 756 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 4: disruptive to, Me, Like i'll bet and he doesn't turn 757 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 4: twenty one until the. Fall, Like i'm going to bet 758 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 4: on that. Profile i'm gonna bet on that profile all. 759 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: Day so to answer your, question you look At Keldric, 760 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 4: Folk Rvel, Reese, Dave David, Bailey, Yeah Ruben Baine. Junior 761 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 4: like four guys four of the top six players in 762 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 4: this class. 763 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: For me are D. Dresser yeah. 764 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: ABSOLUTELY i MEAN i Think i've got My harris one. 765 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: HUNDRED i haven't finished it, all BUT i know who 766 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: number one. IS i Put David bailey a number. 767 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:06,239 Speaker 3: One. 768 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: YEAH i JUST i watch. WEEKLY i watched two guys 769 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: and they do it. DIFFERENTLY i Watched neil, hundred Will Anderson. 770 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 2: JUNR i watch them AND i know you've studied them on. 771 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 2: Tape as you watch, them they do it, differently AND 772 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: i still think That bailey is different from both of. 773 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: Them YET i feel Like bailey doesn't get enough credit 774 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: for the way he sets the edge in the. 775 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: Run but, man his first step and his quickness off 776 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: the ball is just. Otherworldly And I'm. 777 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 2: I'm afraid The jets are gonna pass on that and 778 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 2: let The titans pick him up at. 779 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: Four that's gonna that's Gonna obviously. 780 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: It's gonna, yeah, solidly guy like, that right is not you, 781 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: know it's not gonna make me. Happy obviously it's not 782 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 2: gonna be for. US i, mean we've got. 783 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: It we got Adg. 784 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: RUSHES i think ours is gonna be later down the. 785 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: ROAD i think that's where that that value in the 786 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: edge draft where it could. 787 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: Push somebody into, fourth, fifth sixth. Round we do need some. 788 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: Depth Dylan. Horton still there don't know ABOUT dB Derek. 789 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: Barnett we do know we go too money guys that 790 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 2: are tremendous And Will Anderson. Junior so let's go to 791 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: the other position WHERE i kind of glossed over a little, 792 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: bit but it is a priority position seemingly for The. 793 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: Texans we don't know exactly what's going On Joe. MIXON 794 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: a lot of rumors about surgeries and all that kind of. 795 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: Stuff we don't. 796 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 2: Know Woody mark says solid. SEASON i was a Big 797 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: Woody marks. Fan although we got out of what he, 798 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 2: marks what we what we could, have but we need running. 799 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: Back jeremih Love Zarian. Price those top, two maybe they 800 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 2: don't even get To. Houston Maybe price is. GONE i 801 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 2: think everybody wants to get him in the second. Round i'm, 802 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 2: like it's a pipe, dream. YEP i think you're gonna 803 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: have to get him either back into the first round 804 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: but he moved, down or you're take him at twenty. 805 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: Eight beyond those, Two, oh how much of? It comment 806 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: on those? 807 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 2: Two, first beyond those, two where's the diamond in the 808 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 2: rough in the running back class that you? 809 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 3: Like? 810 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 4: Yeah to, Me jeremiah loves an easy evw you, know he's, 811 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 4: explosive he's. Tough what he does again against loaded, boxes you, 812 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 4: know and pass protection he got he gets hurt at 813 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 4: the end of the college football playoff run in twenty twenty. Four, Right, 814 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 4: okay he's not an effective, runner, right doesn't come off 815 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 4: the field and instead all you see is him leading 816 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 4: the way as a lead blocker For Riley leonard AND 817 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 4: qb run right in the goal. Line, right he's covering 818 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 4: punts as a starting running back as a. Gunner like 819 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 4: intangibles for days with that. Kid let me throw a compat, 820 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 4: You Engineering. Price Felix, jones ooh, interesting who was also 821 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 4: Like robin to somebody Else's. Batman he played With Darren 822 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 4: fatten At arkansas still lent in the first round in the. 823 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 4: Twenties WHEN i look at at At Generan, PRICE i 824 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 4: think he could play a similar kind of role he 825 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 4: had to get end up going latter stage a round. 826 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: One, yeah it's. 827 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: Interesting you know what mine is and it's it's it's 828 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: seemingly different BECAUSE i Think felix shows a home run 829 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 2: hitting aspect That James connor. 830 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: Didn't. 831 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 2: Yep But connor was such a good downhill runner at 832 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: a big, say And jerry's that. Big but when you watch, Him, 833 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: YEAH i remember the first TIME i saw him And 834 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 2: i'm like that dude's two twenty five. YEP i checked, 835 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: him was like he's two of, five. Yep forget that 836 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: he runs bigger than his. SIZE i think he's got From. 837 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 2: MINNESPIP i like The Felix jones comparison totally because he 838 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: was he was To darren. 839 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: McFadden everybody wanted. McFadden it's like, no, no, no, no, 840 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: No Felix. 841 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 2: Jones and then in the way that everybody's, talking, well 842 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 2: we can get him in the second, round now you. 843 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 2: Can't there are too many teams from from twenty by 844 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: twenty four ish through the end of the first. 845 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: Round. 846 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 2: YEP i mean If seattle Loses Keith Walker junior Or 847 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: Kids walker the third we ain't running. 848 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: Back denver's looking for one to REPLACE. Jk. 849 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 4: DOBBINS i think running backs to play for all of. 850 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 4: THEM i don't Think price gets to the second. Round 851 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 4: and there's twenty one running backs here In. Indy that's 852 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: the fewest we've seen in at least two. Decades LIKE 853 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 4: i went back to two thousand AND i couldn't find 854 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 4: twenty one running backs at a combine. 855 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: Class it's usually in the high twenties or. 856 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 4: Thirties two of those, guys one of them is a 857 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 4: full back tight End Max bredison From Mission right and 858 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 4: the Other i've got with the slot receivers And Eli 859 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 4: hyden right From. 860 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: Navy so, YEAH i don't even know where to put 861 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 1: you right. NOW i love. HIM i don't know where 862 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: to put, it, Right i'm like the full, Back, no 863 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: he's wider. 864 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,959 Speaker 2: Seat he might be kind of That WEAPON x player 865 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: where you kind of use him a lot of the 866 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: spots where where teams like to have a player that 867 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: can just do things like. That how about somebody off 868 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: the radar maybe day, two maybe on even day three 869 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: that you like in running back? 870 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 4: Class so the Way i'm looking for someone to pair 871 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 4: With woody, right and SO i, Look i'm looking for 872 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 4: more of like an Inning zeter, type, Right so that's 873 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 4: gonna be able to chew up ground between the. Tackles 874 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 4: i'd Like kate Tron allen to, Me and that's the 875 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 4: running back From Penn. 876 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: State. 877 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 4: Uh my comp for him is a guy that you 878 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 4: know didn't test well at the. Combine was it was 879 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 4: a honestly a focal point runner during his time In Notre. 880 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 4: Dame That's Kyraen williams who's turned into a, starter, Right 881 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 4: and to, me it's a Uh he's not an overwhelming physical, 882 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 4: talent but vision. Competes uh the past protection run. HARD i, 883 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 4: look he's got a lot of mileage on the, body no, 884 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 4: Question BUT i think when you're looking At Kate Tron, 885 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 4: allen there's a lot to like there about the skill 886 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 4: set to fit for What houston is looking, for you, 887 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 4: know in that. 888 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 2: BACKFIELD i was impressed with, him AND i know when 889 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 2: you say he plays at different, speed everybody, thinks oh 890 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: he played. Faster, no, no, no he just is able 891 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 2: to get to the hole and they speed through a 892 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: hole faster than anybody that was. 893 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: There especially at The Senior. BOWL i was really impressed 894 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 1: with his play. 895 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 2: Speed once he gets into the, secondary all of a, 896 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: sudden second and third level guys are gonna have to 897 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 2: you want to challenge him physically because he does have that. 898 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: Power HE i was. 899 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 2: SURPRISED i thought he was gonna be bigger THAN i. 900 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: THOUGHT i stood next to, him was, like, hey he's 901 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 2: not as big AS i. Thought but he's put together 902 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 2: really well and he runs so physically behind our, pads 903 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 2: which is something obviously that you know In houston that's 904 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: been you, know become our calling, card you, know the 905 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 2: whole swarmth. Thing we want to find guys like. That, 906 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 2: Offensively catron is definitely a guy THAT i would love 907 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 2: to look. At interior offensive line is always a spot 908 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 2: tackle is a spot where do you see the relative 909 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 2: strength of those positions on the offensive, line being, center, guard, 910 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 2: tackle where's kind of the relative strength in your mind 911 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 2: of this. 912 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 4: Draft, YEAH i think that if you want to, tackle 913 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 4: it's gonna Be if you want to starting, tackle it's 914 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 4: gonna Be round. 915 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: One, yeah you, know and that's that's most. 916 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 4: YEARS i think The texans were to, me very lucky 917 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 4: THAT i really liked last year In Areonta ercury that 918 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 4: was able to come in that typically is a profile 919 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 4: THAT i would anticipate to go in round, one and 920 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,919 Speaker 4: it's usually the back end of round, one but those 921 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 4: guys typically go and they were able to get him 922 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 4: in round, two AND i think it's that's paying early 923 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 4: dimends for. THEM i view this class the same. WAY 924 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 4: i think there's a bunch of guys in the back 925 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 4: end of the first round where whether we're talking, uh you, 926 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 4: Know Monroe, freeland who HONESTLY i think we're gonna talking 927 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 4: to him as a top twenty type of player about 928 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 4: when we leave. HERE i won't even get my heart 929 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 4: set up EVEN i, think, YEAH i can't even do it. 930 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 4: NOW i think he's too, Big he's too big and too. 931 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 4: Athletic you, know only a one year, starter but there's 932 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 4: a lot to like. There, yeah SO i think now 933 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 4: you're you're shifting attention To Caleb lomu From. Utah is 934 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 4: he a swarm type of? GUY i don't. 935 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: KNOW i think that's a good. 936 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 4: Question but really athletic left tackle, Only, yeah that's that's 937 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 4: gonna be the. Concern but he's really. Athletic he's got 938 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 4: to get. 939 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: Stronger. 940 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 4: UH i Like Maxie honator From Arizona. State, Yes, uh 941 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: new to the game. Relatively, yeah he didn't play high, 942 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 4: school didn't play in high. School you, know it came 943 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 4: over From nigeria when he was a. Kid played, soccer 944 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 4: he played, Basketball he played a bunch of. Sports the 945 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 4: first year of junior, college they taught him how to 946 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 4: put on his pads and tie his. Cleats second year 947 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 4: they threw him in the line up and he became 948 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 4: a four star recruit and went To Arizona state the 949 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 4: next year started three years for The Sun. 950 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: Devils. Uh this kid is, big he's six' FIVE franch 951 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: i stood next to him at the Dead The. SENIOR bowl, 952 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: i mean, you know we do this as. 953 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 2: Draft guys we look at things that, you know we 954 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 2: kind of eye guys like okay, from yep from head 955 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 2: to toe. TO head i stood next to HIM and 956 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 2: i just gawked at, his legs, his thighs. Just muscle, 957 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 2: i'm like this dude is. PUT together i would love Him. 958 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: IN houston i would love him. 959 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 4: Literally later this is my Note from this is my 960 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 4: right up from seeing him. Up close above average height, 961 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 4: and length, sturdy frame starts on the. Ground up it's got, 962 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 4: solid cats, thick quads thick bubble looks, the part pretty 963 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 4: good upper. Body definition here's the thing at, that size, 964 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 4: You know ursery, was fine check the. Box athlete this 965 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 4: kid is going to, test. 966 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: Like yeah he's kidd he is a. 967 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 4: FREAKY apple i am of. 968 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 2: A mindset i remember coming back From The senior BOWL 969 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: and i just remember seeing his and BUILD and, i 970 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 2: thought he's gonna probably. 971 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: TEST well i think twenty eight is gonna be. 972 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 2: Pushing, IT yeah i think IT'S really i think it's 973 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 2: really gonna be pushing at whatever we get. Him THERE 974 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: and i think that's that's the Thing WITH and i 975 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 2: say this to people all, the time, you know as 976 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 2: they start seeing these mock drafts and where people are 977 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 2: going and all that and they're seeing. 978 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: Offensive lineman, i'm, like look last year is a. 979 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 2: Great indication if there is a solid quality offensive lineman on, 980 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 2: the board it's gonna be tough to get to that 981 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 2: back four or five picks in the. FIRST round, i 982 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 2: mean we, watched well, you know apparently there Was Interesting tyler, 983 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 2: Booker yep coyle was taking him. At twelve, they go 984 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 2: there's a lot of Interest in Greys abel seayhawks. Make 985 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 2: him he's a starter For the. World champions and Then There's. Donovan, 986 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,240 Speaker 2: jackson yep he went to pick right, before us and, everybody, 987 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 2: thought look we're gonna get one of the wide receivers 988 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 2: or we're gonna get One Of donovan. Jackson's table it's. 989 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 2: Gonna happen and then they're. All gone tommy gets twenty 990 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 2: five and, we're, like oh it's. Trade Out the giants 991 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 2: obviously were the part of that wanted to. 992 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 4: Trade out AND so i start get excited about, these 993 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 4: Guys and, i'm LIKE as i get excited, ABOUT him 994 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 4: i realize they're twenty seven teams picking, in front and 995 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 4: there are a number of them that need. 996 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 2: Offensive LINEMEN so i know it's GONNA be i know 997 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 2: it's gonna end up. Being tough one of THE positions 998 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 2: i think is kind. Of interesting not. 999 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: From a oh There's a tyler, linderbaumb THERE but i 1000 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: feel like center has got. Some depth, not, great yeah 1001 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: but it's. Got depth how do you see the? Center, 1002 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: position YEAH. 1003 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 4: It's i like the guards MORE than i like. The centers, 1004 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 4: this year, to me it's a it's a group of 1005 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 4: a couple of holes. IN it i Look At connor Loo. 1006 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 4: From auburn he was A guy i had a top 1007 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 4: thirty grade on coming in and honestly he's HE tours Acl. 1008 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 4: In october he's still in my, top FIFTY and i 1009 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 4: think that intangibles. Are outstanding, he's undersize he's building the 1010 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 4: linderbomb mold and he's. Really athletic but coming OFF, the 1011 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 4: acl what's he gonna look like? This week will be 1012 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 4: big from the medical. Check standpoint, AFTER that i really Like. 1013 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 4: THE iowa, i, Mean look I'm Not. Bogie jones this 1014 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 4: is not a state it's not a. State secret you 1015 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 4: you can Invest in iowa. Offensive line that's a nice 1016 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 4: stock to. 1017 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 2: Invest in it's so funny you say THAT because i 1018 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 2: studied him this past SUMMER and i wrote him UP 1019 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 2: and i, WAS like i felt. Really good and then 1020 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 2: GUYS that, I respect i start reading about, you know 1021 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 2: they're they're talking about different, offensive linean you're talking, About 1022 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 2: center you're talking about. 1023 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: Other guys, i'm, LIKE damn i Miss On. Logan JONES 1024 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: now i. 1025 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: Feel like i'm hearing people Talk About logan jones a little, 1026 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 2: bit More and, I'm, like okay it does give me 1027 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 2: a little bit of confidence because the people. 1028 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: That do LIKE him. I RESPECT but i, was LIKE 1029 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: what i? 1030 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 2: Miss man this. Dude's good he's got everything you're. Looking 1031 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 2: for you can finish from a. Center position he's got 1032 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: a defensive. LINEMAN'S mentality i think HE'S gonna i think 1033 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 2: he is gonna be a surprise for somebody. 1034 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 4: FOR sure, I Mean linda brom is obviously gonna be 1035 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 4: the big name in. Free agency Linderbaum Handpicked logan jones, 1036 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 4: to be, to say because he was a defensive lineman 1037 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 4: the early in his career and as he was going TO, 1038 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 4: the nfl they, were, like, oh like, you know we're 1039 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 4: thinking about who's gonna who's Gonna replace tyler And linder brom, 1040 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 4: was like, you know if we're thinking about moving logan 1041 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 4: FROM dlanda o Lion, lie right that's. 1042 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: The, guy yeah. 1043 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,439 Speaker 2: That's it and he ended up moving over to center 1044 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 2: and and the rest of his. History, here yeah he 1045 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 2: is a he's a. Tremendous player, all right let's talk 1046 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 2: about the team that is in. Your city we will 1047 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 2: come up there to face them for the first time 1048 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 2: in eight years to filled Off. The eagles there's such a, 1049 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 2: national team so so many national voices have an opinion 1050 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 2: on what happened With, the eagles. Et, cetera yeah let's 1051 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 2: just talk. Straight football what do you how do you, 1052 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 2: foresee them and how do you think and what do 1053 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 2: they look at in? 1054 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,280 Speaker 4: The, DRAFT yeah i mean it's it's gonna be violatile 1055 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 4: in terms of like the range of outcomes with this 1056 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 4: team this year because they're completely redoing the, offense right 1057 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 4: uh and for you from the studs and a lot 1058 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 4: of that has to do with moving On From, jeff 1059 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 4: stotlin a legendary offensive. Line coach, you know that's a 1060 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 4: that's you're out in the, wilderness, Now man like you 1061 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 4: make a move, like that and. They didn't it's not 1062 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 4: like they wanted to make, the, move right but, you 1063 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 4: know there was a lot of disagreements that got to. 1064 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: This point now, to me you look. 1065 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 4: At it you Bring In, sean manyon who's been coaching for, 1066 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 4: two years uh and is now an offensive coordinated IN. 1067 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: The nfl, so uh every all the reviews have. 1068 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 4: Come back when you talk to anybody that's been, around him, 1069 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 4: it's Like, man like he's gonna be a. Great coach 1070 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 4: this is his Coaches have it's crazy to say This 1071 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 4: because Nix the eagles just Won The super bowl a. 1072 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 4: Year ago if this season doesn't go well like that 1073 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 4: seat is going to be really hot for the for 1074 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 4: the head coach and so uh for a new off 1075 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 4: its coordinator come in and he's running the room for the, 1076 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 4: first time you kind of have to hit the. Ground 1077 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 4: running so it's it's it's gonna be, really, interesting period 1078 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 4: not you, better go you. Gotta go and It's so 1079 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 4: i'm glad that they Brought In, josh grazzard who you 1080 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 4: know round tamp for the first time he Was. In 1081 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 4: tampa he was the pass game Coordinator For liam cohen. 1082 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 4: Before that obviously he gets let go AS, the oc 1083 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 4: but at least someone else who is run the room 1084 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 4: who could speak that same language comes from that. 1085 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: Same tree, YOU know i think that that's gonna. BE 1086 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: big i think that when you look at this. 1087 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 4: Group though, You Know jalen hurts new offensive system. Once 1088 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 4: again he's had a new offensive coordinator every single year 1089 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 4: in going back. To college the last time he had 1090 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 4: the same coach in his ear twice was when his 1091 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 4: dad coach him in. 1092 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 2: High school, can't, Wait Face, jalen, HURTS man, I mean i. 1093 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 2: Can wait it's, not fun but it's gonna. BE exciting 1094 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 2: i love locking horns with really good quarterbacks and. Good 1095 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 2: teams so that will happen at some point in twenty twenty. 1096 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 2: Sixth season, All right so the news going AROUND, the 1097 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: nfl it's hit it all next ready Here In Texas all. Access, 1098 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 2: Seven everybody Welcome back MONDAY, At Ishae Texans all access. 1099 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 2: Final Segment Here, john harris Your, host footballingals is side 1100 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 2: line reporter to hit some news from AROUND. The nfl 1101 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 2: we've already Talked About titus howard being traded To The 1102 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 2: cleveland browns And the texas Trading For david montgomery running 1103 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 2: back From The. Detroit lions we talked about that plenty 1104 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 2: Of the chiefs Are Releasing jwan taylor, right tackle clearing 1105 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 2: up twenty million dollars in, cap SPACE and i know 1106 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 2: what you're, Probably, thinking, hey Hey, Hey, texans nah you're 1107 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 2: gonna have. 1108 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: To twist my arm in. 1109 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 2: THAT one i was A Big jewan taylor fan coming out, 1110 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 2: of COLLEGE but i don't KNOW that i, saw it 1111 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 2: Especially In. Kansas CITY so i feel like they can 1112 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 2: get younger at tackle and still be. 1113 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: Really. 1114 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 2: Solid, me look last year we went And Got Arion 1115 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 2: terra street and that worked out. For Them the cowboys 1116 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 2: are trying to get their deal done with, Their Kicker, 1117 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 2: brandon aubrey and he's one of the best ones in, 1118 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 2: the LEAGUE so i can definitely see them getting. That done, 1119 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 2: all right it's gonna do for. The show we appreciate 1120 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 2: you guys being here. As always we'll see you, next 1121 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 2: time and it's Always. 1122 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,240 Speaker 1: Go texans