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Speaker 1: and Mike Keith. That's Chance Campbell, number forty five, linebacker

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Speaker 1: for the Tennessee Titans. Welcome to the bet MGM Studio

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Speaker 1: and the Official Titans Podcast. Congratulations on the performance against

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. You guys always say things like, now there'll

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Speaker 1: be stuff on tape that we have to clean up.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see much you needed to clean up, So

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Speaker 1: tell us what did you believe you needed to clean

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Speaker 1: up from what was a really super performance on Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always toff the clean up, that's definitely true.

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Speaker 2: Had some stuff early on in the games and fits

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Speaker 2: the clean up. Finishing the game. You know, we had

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Speaker 2: a we had a strong, strong rally and then kind

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Speaker 2: of want to not have to be in one of

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Speaker 2: those situations at the end of the game. So finishing

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Speaker 2: that up and then just technique and fundamental stuff that

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Speaker 2: you can always work on.

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Speaker 3: Were you supposed to bat the ball down at the end.

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Speaker 4: But do you but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I should have that one down.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: As we've been going through training camp, we heard your

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Speaker 5: a lot of times, and then after the preseason game

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Speaker 5: it sounds like everybody's talking about you. Do you feel

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Speaker 5: like this is the momentum that you were trying to generate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a pretty good job like not looking

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Speaker 2: at that stuff. So like, I don't really try not

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Speaker 2: to focus on a momentum thing. Just try to make

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Speaker 2: it like I play the time. That way, you don't

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Speaker 2: focus on things that, like you know, don't really help

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Speaker 2: you doing your job at that specific time.

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Speaker 1: A lot of Titans fans don't know your story very well.

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Speaker 1: And it's kind of related to COVID in a way

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Speaker 1: in terms of you're from Ellacott City, Maryland, Is that right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Elega City, okay, And that's a suburb of Baltimore to

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Speaker 1: the to the west. And you play high school football,

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Speaker 1: very good lacrosse player for shit it did you think

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Speaker 2: I did so my freshman year of college. I actually

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Speaker 2: ended up taking a visit to Maryland for lacrosse before football. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I always wanted to play football in college,

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Speaker 2: but the lacrosse recruiting deal kind of goes a little

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Speaker 2: I thought for a little bit of time that that

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Speaker 3: Foot in the door.

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Speaker 2: And then eventually, when I realized I could, I could

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Speaker 2: I was kind of full war on the football deal.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you go to Maryland three years ye, get

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Speaker 1: a degree, yes, sir, And during COVID you decide to

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Speaker 3: Yep. Now take me through the decision.

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Speaker 1: You're from the Baltimore area, You're playing in College Park,

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Speaker 1: imagine that's more than a football decision in terms of

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Speaker 1: the difficulty in making it, especially at that moment in time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. I was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thirty five minutes from the campus, so

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that was a hard decision. It was definitely

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Speaker 5: But also gave you a lot of real life experience.

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Speaker 5: I would presume, how has that helped you as your

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Speaker 2: Was definitely helpful. I mean, I looked out, I have

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Speaker 2: make that decision. Kind of let it be my own,

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Speaker 1: You weren't able to visit Old Miss before you picked

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Speaker 2: Noah, Now, first time I saw it was when I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you had a remarkable season the time that you

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Speaker 1: So he goes down there, one hundred and nine tackles,

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Speaker 2: You had I had a good meeting with them, so

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Speaker 2: it was like one of the situations where so much

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Speaker 2: I tried It's a lot easier said than done. But

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Speaker 5: So then you come out to the Tennessee Titans, and

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Speaker 5: that's where things get really interesting.

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Speaker 4: Mike, do you have the rundown here?

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Speaker 3: I've got the run down.

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Speaker 4: Mike's got the rundown.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So your rookie year, you go on I r

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Speaker 3: When did that actually happen.

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Speaker 2: Four days before the first game?

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Speaker 3: Happened in practice?

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Speaker 2: Never been uh, never had surgery before, never been hurt

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Speaker 3: And you've made the team.

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Speaker 1: So you've made the team out of camp as a

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Speaker 3: The year at Boom. Yeah. Tough grade. Yeah, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: Basically being away from the football team when the previous

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Speaker 2: It was different. I definitely took me a minute to

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Speaker 2: I've said a couple of times I was I'm really

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Speaker 3: So you come back. You're not one hundred percent though.

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Speaker 2: It was tough, you know, But I think I had

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Speaker 2: it's like, the the hardest thing that ever happened to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think probably the biggest perspective shift And then

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Speaker 2: it might be a tough forward saying shift. But is

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Speaker 2: I love football? Like love football since I can remember,

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Speaker 2: and I never felt like I took the game for granted.

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Speaker 1: Why have you clicked so well with linebacker coach Frank Bush.

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Speaker 3: But I would guess there are.

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Speaker 1: Two feelings in you stay balanced and stay consistent, realize

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Speaker 3: Would both be correct? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think kind of the the narrative deal might be

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Speaker 1: Keep tearing it up, appreciate it all, right, Hey, Titans fans,

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Speaker 3: He did it again.

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Speaker 4: We'll get there.

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Speaker 1: The will Levice Hellman's mayonnaise cologne spot that came out

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Produced spot that it is, or B it's such.

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Speaker 5: A disgusting concept that people can't help but talk about it.

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Speaker 5: What are you talk as cologne? Think about what mayonnaise

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Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't wear it.

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Speaker 5: It's not a delightful fragrance generally, even if you like,

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Speaker 4: Meal or dish, like it's delicious.

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Speaker 5: However, I don't think I want to smell like mayonnaise,

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Speaker 1: But there's there are other things in I mean, here's

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Speaker 3: This is real.

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Speaker 4: Yep, it's a real thing.

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Speaker 3: This is one hundred percent there really is this cologne.

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Speaker 4: Did you like attempt to purchase it?

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Speaker 3: I don't think I would wear mayonnaise cologne.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people don't wear cologne anymore.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, cologne is a I mean it's a delicate dance anyway,

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Speaker 4: But like oh to mayonnaise, who Eggy.

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Speaker 1: I will say this though, I love that he leans

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Speaker 3: I love it so much.

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Speaker 1: Ye it is it's like a Saturday Night Live bit,

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Speaker 1: The mayonnaise in the coffee thing was a little It

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Speaker 5: I genuinely believe when he says that he didn't realize

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Speaker 3: What he calls the spokesperson for Helman.

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Speaker 5: Because of one day he just went bloop and put

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Speaker 4: I mean, what a time to be alive. What world

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Speaker 3: He has a really good sense of humor.

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Speaker 3: Well, the kid's story.

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Speaker 4: It was awesome. It's so funny. But I would I

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Speaker 3: I think it's great.

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Speaker 4: Powers that be at NBC lorm Michaels.

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Speaker 3: If you hear us, well you got to win a

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Speaker 4: But he's will love us.

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Speaker 3: He's well, maybe he's the.

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Speaker 4: Get him on there. Yeah, I'm not waiting. He's too funny.

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Speaker 4: I like it too funny right now, I like it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's going to do it for this

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Speaker 5: By the way, Mike, all of your rules suddenly makes sense.

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Speaker 5: We couldn't talk about him on the OTP four downs

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the backstory to it as well. I don't

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Speaker 4: I'd never met him.

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Speaker 3: And part of the reason that Amy and I had

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Speaker 1: Was covid cod because we couldn't we couldn't go downstairs

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Speaker 1: two years. Yeah, I mean that didn't end until training

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Speaker 4: He's gone yep.

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Speaker 1: And so then he comes back in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 3: He doesn't make the team. So and then he wasn't

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Speaker 3: Then he got hurt again and wasn't around anymore.

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Speaker 4: We were shipped passing in the night.

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Speaker 3: Right And now now he's got a chance. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I should have said now he has an opportunity,

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Speaker 1: No chance, Campbell has an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Well, he played great.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully he can keep it up and because boy, he

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Speaker 1: Andy was a great lacrosse player.

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Speaker 3: Understand this guy's an athlete.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I absolutely even seeing him, he was built like

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Speaker 5: he walked in and I went, yep, that's a football player.

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Speaker 4: He just looks the.

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Speaker 3: Part he does. All right, you're ready wrap it up?

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Speaker 1: Ready to wrap it up for Amie Wells, I, Mike Keith,

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