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Speaker 1: Me Around the NFL podcast It's French fries in milkshakes

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Speaker 1: from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Dan hands this hero with some heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Week twelve, Sunday Night Flagship Show. Listen. Everybody knows you

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Speaker 1: don't even have to count the games until you get

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Speaker 1: past Thanksgiving. And that's when it starts to matta in

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Speaker 1: professional football. And now here we are back after this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of teams that would be

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Speaker 1: excited if that was true. The Bears are undefeated by

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Speaker 1: that method, so are my Jets. So I like to

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Speaker 1: think that anything that I did did annoyed anyone on

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Speaker 1: the home front or beyond before Thanksgiving. This doesn't count

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Speaker 1: for the whole year, just in the season. My entire

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Speaker 1: lifetime up and he build this and I've been I

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Speaker 1: saw them for five minutes this morning and it was

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Speaker 1: pristine behavior. Um. And of course that sentiment doesn't really

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Speaker 1: hold a ton of water, but it also comes from

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Speaker 1: like the Belichicks and the Parcels of the world who've

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Speaker 1: been around and did it makes some sense, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well that's what I was gonna get to, Like, I

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Speaker 1: like there is something to it, because this is when

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Speaker 1: you separate the pretenders fall away now when you get

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Speaker 1: into December. Um. But then again, every season is a

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Speaker 1: beautiful flower, and this is a strange little sucker, this flower.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like we don't have any real answers

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Speaker 1: at all entering December. So you know, it's all coming

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Speaker 1: together in real time. Like remember that Gregor Mendel would

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Speaker 1: like a toy around with like plant and flower dna

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Speaker 1: to create mad things. That that's what this is, you know,

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Speaker 1: essentially a Gregor Mendel season. I'm gonna pretend I get

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Speaker 1: the ref and be like I totally agree. Are you

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Speaker 1: aware of that, Gregor, Gregor Mental? Yes, yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: we'll look it up. Good take, good takes, really good one.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about a good take. Greg is ready to

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Speaker 1: shoot me with an arrow. And there's also another little

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Speaker 1: element going on here. The Brownies, Mark's favorite team, uh

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Speaker 1: and Mark's passion for his favorite sports team really is

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Speaker 1: unlike anything any of us have ever seen before. And

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Speaker 1: they're playing as we tape right now, so we you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of cooking emotionally. I know you you

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Speaker 1: like to keep it like the surf on the surface.

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Speaker 1: It's not something that's churning within you, but we know

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Speaker 1: it is. And if you want to kind of get

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Speaker 1: anything out there before we get going on the games,

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Speaker 1: maybe some uh some what do they call the third rail?

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Speaker 1: What to avoid anything to make this more pleasant for

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Speaker 1: you and us. I like our efficient approach. We started

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Speaker 1: on time, which is um, highly unusual for for us.

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Speaker 1: But on top of it, there is a high octane

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Speaker 1: BTS concert, a boy in from South Korea operating. It's

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Speaker 1: so far right now, so we're gonna have to get

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Speaker 1: out of here and the minute this ends. Um, we've

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Speaker 1: annoyed Chris Rose highly once again. He wanted to watch

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Speaker 1: The Browns with us. You explain all that, um, but

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Speaker 1: it's just like a pull me back into the Browns scene.

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Speaker 1: This is like the third act of Paul Thomas Anderson

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Speaker 1: movie where there's all these different things happening at the

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Speaker 1: a lot of energy in the air and a lot

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Speaker 1: of it is chaotic. Alright, Emmica and and my daughter

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Speaker 1: Alis are at the show too. That that that's like

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Speaker 1: a little story that might be tracking. We might be

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Speaker 1: tracking and then you know when um, I don't even

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Speaker 1: know a single member of BTS, I can't even name

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Speaker 1: drop here when he like shoots up through the riser

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Speaker 1: and the smoke machine comes out, and then your daughter

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Speaker 1: and she's like, well, then all of his listeners would

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Speaker 1: have missed that on that trenchant Falcons Jags analysis. What

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Speaker 1: a day for Patterson? Where is my dad? Is Daddy

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Speaker 1: Ever coming home? Let's get into the games. No, that's good,

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Speaker 1: that's good parent work by you and Ever getting the

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Speaker 1: BTS tickets in a big spot at the height of

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Speaker 1: their popularity, getting inside that building. We don't know they're

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Speaker 1: they're tremendously popular pop group. Let's get going. Let's start

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field where BTS is not performing. And here's

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Speaker 1: the snapper Stafford tight pocket hit as he throws left

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Speaker 1: to the house, high stepping touchdown, green Back had a

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Speaker 1: third quarter tigger. It's thirty six to seventeen. In all

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Speaker 1: our years doing this, and since we introduced the local

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Speaker 1: Larvy w TMJ Razul Douglas picked off Matthew Stafford took

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Speaker 1: it all the way. His pick six was the key

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Speaker 1: play in the second half of the Packers, who beat

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Speaker 1: the Rams thirty in a battle between two Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: or Bust squads. Interesting game here. Matthew Stafford through three

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Speaker 1: imperfect game for the veteran quarterback, whose health issues were

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Speaker 1: a big storyline entering the game. As for the Packers gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's something that the Rams having put

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Speaker 1: and lost the fumble. Um. They were unable to get

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Speaker 1: And you know, how desperate can a team be when

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Speaker 1: That's just two different teams right now, and they're heading

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Speaker 1: these two games and the chemistry. It's not just Stafford,

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Speaker 1: Being on shaunwick Bay's team doesn't make him Aaron rod

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Speaker 1: But you wonder at what point is he used up

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Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty. Uh. Aaron Donald was quiet in this game.

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Speaker 1: He had one quarterback hit. Uh. We didn't see a

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Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of reasons. There's reason

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Speaker 1: and it was sixteen thirteen at half time, and you

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00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 1: felt like, I don't know, like they were they were

429
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 1: doing about perfect in the first half, but they had

430
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: to play this game in such a way that it

431
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: was like, we know, we're not as good as the Patriots.

432
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to just ground up rushing yards. The

433
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,959
Speaker 1: Patriots were kind of allowing them, almost daring them too,

434
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: which was interesting. Uh, they played like light boxes the

435
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: whole game, and the Titans pulled it off for a half,

436
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: but they couldn't fit. And I know it's it's on

437
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,199
Speaker 1: the Titan side of things. There is a temptation to

438
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 1: just go with a narrative. Well, this is exposing Ryan Tannehill.

439
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: He is a good quarterback, but he's not great and

440
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: when you put him in a situation like this, he's

441
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: gonna fail you. But I'm looking at their wide receivers.

442
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 1: This is what he's passing to today, Nick Westbrook, what

443
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: is that again? A Keena, Cody Hollister, Dez Fitzpatrick, Michael

444
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 1: pruittt Jeff Swain, Anthony Firkser. I mean, this is gonna

445
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: be if you're going against the Patriots defense, which is

446
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: playing as well as any defense in the league. The

447
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: almost had no chance. I mean that's why I locked

448
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: up the Pats here, because even though the Titans came

449
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: in eight and three, it just felt like they were

450
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: there was no way they were going to move them. No,

451
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: that's who gets the sad. I think maybe Ricky, did

452
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: you lock the opposite? I did? Yeah, that was so

453
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: why you you only think about you at all times? Probably? Yeah,

454
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: I locked up the Patriots and you locked up the Titans.

455
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: So the Patriots had wins, so you don't really get

456
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 1: the sad hord, Right, I get the winning. But I'm

457
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: a professional, you know, so the locks I did lose

458
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: my lock again. All right, I'm glad we worked that

459
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: all out. But you're happy with the outcome of our lockoff?

460
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was. It was a fantastic showing

461
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: by the Patriots. But if Derrick Henry was there this

462
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have stand a chance too a chance? Well yeah, right,

463
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: the defense was great, but not with the run. Against

464
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: the run, I mean, you had like Hillard. Like my

465
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Speaker 1: point is, if I know if don Trell Hilliard has

466
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Speaker 1: on thirty one yards in a sixty eight yard touchdown,

467
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: well that's what Derrick Henry maybe would have done in

468
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: this game. But there's still foreman goes for one on nine.

469
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: They had two over a hundred. It was a strategy

470
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: and I don't think it worked the way exactly that

471
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: they wanted, but the outcome kind of ended that way,

472
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: which was like you can run and spend all day

473
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: like going on these long drives. We kind of don't

474
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Speaker 1: trust Tannahill to finish it off. I think Dan your

475
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: point though they don't have they don't have a target

476
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: with more than twenty five yards. I mean, he's playing

477
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: with a week three preseason roster. They've set that, they've

478
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Speaker 1: set the NFL record for the most players used in

479
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Speaker 1: a season. It is week twelve, That isn't and I

480
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: know that because of the I R rules that sort

481
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Speaker 1: of bends it to the last couple of years that

482
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Speaker 1: you're gonna use more players with the practice. That doesn't matter.

483
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: They've set the NFL record for the most players use,

484
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Speaker 1: which is essentially the most injuries in the history of

485
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Speaker 1: the NFL. And it's week twelve. They they they have

486
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Speaker 1: done an incredible job getting to this point, and all

487
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: those wins they stacked up before are gonna come in

488
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Speaker 1: handy because a lot of these players are coming back

489
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Speaker 1: for Tennessee. And yes, that's the that's the way to

490
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: look at this, Graver, But I mean, how fortunate are

491
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: you and how relieved are you that the Colts found

492
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: a way to lose that game today? Because if the

493
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: Colts beat the Bucks paired with this, it would be

494
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: panic on the streets in Nashville. Yeah, it would be bad.

495
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: I think that was a much needed loss for the Colts.

496
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: From a Titans perspective, it still seems like the South

497
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: an f C South, is the Titans division to take.

498
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: They just have to come back, get healthy over the

499
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: BYLEP three with five to go. If you count the

500
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Speaker 1: tiebreaker as a game to completely like collapse full against

501
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars and the Texans again and the Steelers and

502
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: the Niners and the Dolphins. I feel like the Titans,

503
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Speaker 1: depending on how healthy they are after the bye, should

504
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: be able to win three of those five games. All right,

505
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're in a good place, Justin, and

506
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you. But I you know, from a

507
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Speaker 1: podcast perspective, you know, a crestfall and grave Degger would

508
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: have been fun too, all right. And on the Patriots side,

509
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: before we move on and gets shook in here out listen,

510
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm all for the reality that the Patriots, uh could

511
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: be a team that makes a deep run in the playoffs,

512
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: but I just need to see it. I just need

513
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: to see these next three games. What happens at Bills

514
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: at Colts Home. Bills, give me two wins there, or

515
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: don't give them to me. I don't want them, but

516
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: win two of those games, and I'm on board the

517
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: rest of the world that this is the dynasty reborn.

518
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: The rest of the world is saying. I think the

519
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: rest of the world is recognizing they lead the NFL

520
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: and point differential right now, and but I think it's

521
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Speaker 1: absolutely fair to point out still that their best win. Like,

522
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: you know, they haven't beaten a team that's like above

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Speaker 1: average in dv o A this year other than the Browns.

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Speaker 1: That's about it. Well, I would just you don't, let's

525
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: just disconnect from the previous dynasty and just saying we

526
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: don't have an achilles heel. At the moment, they seem

527
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: very balanced, they're getting better by the week. They're getting

528
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: great play from a rookie quarterback in their defense is nasty.

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Speaker 1: I agree with all that, and now I just want

530
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Speaker 1: to see it happen against premium opponents. You let's talk

531
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: in two weeks exactly, all right, Let's take a break

532
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: and then talk to Nick Shook. You get this stop

533
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: on four down, the forty Niners win the game. Cousins

534
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: back on Fort Town has time throws. Jefferson Dicut played

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00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: the forty Niners take over on Towns. They stopped the

536
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Speaker 1: Vikings twice in a row on fourt Town. The Fortyers

537
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: will win their third in a row. Bongo time Greg

538
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: Papa with the call ken k n b R San

539
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: Francisco got the big stop in the fourth quarter. Deebo

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00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: Samuel ran for two touchdowns before leaving with an injury,

541
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Speaker 1: and Elijah Mitchell ran for a hundred thirty three yards

542
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: in a score, leading the Niners to a thirty four

543
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: win over the Vikings at the Big Bell Bottom. This

544
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 1: is uh Nick Shook now joining us shook you. This

545
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: was a game to five hundred teams that are very intrigued,

546
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: five teams in a wide open conference, and it was

547
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: the Niners who looked like the team that will continue

548
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: with surge. While you come out of this game wondering

549
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: about the Vikings, especially after Dalvin Cook has carded off

550
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: with a shoulder. This game very much played like a

551
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: game you would expect between two teams with identical records

552
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: and kind of on similar trajectories as of late. It

553
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: was a close one. It was a hard fought, chippy game.

554
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: There were a lot of scuffles breaking out after you know,

555
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: the whistle, and it came down to the end and

556
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: the Vikings, who have become this aggressive new age fourth

557
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth down team for the first time,

558
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: couldn't convert in those key situations, and that ultimately proved

559
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: to be the difference. That and Mike Zimmer's stingy defense

560
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: that we've come to know is one that you know

561
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: can stand up against the test and get stops when

562
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: it needs to to get them. Could not do that,

563
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: especially late. They allowed the forty Niners to grind away

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Speaker 1: seven minutes of game clock in the fourth quarter while

565
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: trailing by one possession, and then when they did get

566
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: the ball back, they ultimately could not convert. They blew

567
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: two opportunities in forty ninners territory to try to score

568
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: the potential game tying touchdown with the two point conversion

569
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: added in and came up short by eight points. And

570
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: and the Vikings now have to kind of figure out

571
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: what went wrong. While the forty Niners continue, you know,

572
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: this positive momentum going forward. The only question now with

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Speaker 1: the status of Deebo Samuel, who suffered an injury and

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Speaker 1: did not return to that game. Was seen on the

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00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: sidelines with his helmet nowhere in sight, indicating that he

576
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: was not going to come back. He is obviously crucial

577
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: to their fortunes, has been for the last month, was

578
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: again today with two rushing touchdowns. Can he return in

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00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: time to help them keep going forward? Because what they

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00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: proved today is that they can run the ball well.

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00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: They're really tough out much like they were a few

582
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Speaker 1: years ago. All Right. What I like about the Niners

583
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: today is they didn't totally crumble when Deebo went out.

584
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: I mean he was he crossed the thousand yards receiving

585
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: for the year. He had sixty six yards on the ground.

586
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: You mentioned the two touchdow. He's legitimately a running back.

587
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: He had no receiving yards like and before minutes before

588
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: his injury. Today there was a swing here. This game

589
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: was fourteen to seven where the Niners came to life

590
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: with a pair of drives that when eighties seven yards

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00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: over eight minutes eighty five. And then they got a

592
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins who had through his third interception of the year.

593
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: He's been great on that front through a terrible one

594
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: into the third quarter, they gave the Niners the ball

595
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: at the two, and so you had a twenty one

596
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: point swing for the Niners over four minutes from before

597
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: halftime into the third quarter. And this game did not

598
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Speaker 1: start the way that previous Niners games have during their

599
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: hot streak where they start with these long drives. They

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00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: morphed into that down the stretch they let they had

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Speaker 1: their biggest output on the ground with like two eight

602
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: yards rushing, and so it gives you faith and the

603
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: fact that the Niners can continue to be what they are.

604
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: The Deepo Samuel thing is huge. The Vikings, I think

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00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: Vikings fans have to be annoyed by two things. There's

606
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: this was a Minnesota game, so there's two plot points.

607
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: But Adam Thealen I thought absolutely made a critical catch

608
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: that they that the Vikings essentially challenged did not. It

609
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: was called incomplete on the challenge. They lost that time out,

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00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: then they lost another time out when Kirk Cousins, you know, uh,

611
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: this is gonna go crazy on on social media, but

612
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: lined up under guard and you know they had like

613
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: the running back comes up to try to move them over,

614
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: and so they suddenly had no ability to control the

615
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: clock and the Niners took that away from them as well.

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00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: There was also a Kawan Williams defense on third down,

617
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: a huge third down that was not called p I

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00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: that I thought was p I just think if you're

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00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: a Vikings fan, it's another one of those down moments

620
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: where you're looking at a couple of plays and going

621
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: insane in your mind. I think this is a game.

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00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: I think this is a game that um outcome. Aside

623
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: one team six and five. The other one is now

624
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: five and six. I feel like a lot is going

625
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: to go back to the m r I exams tomorrow.

626
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: I've developing news on this front. Uh. This just came over,

627
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: uh from on top rap sheet. Dalvid Cook suffered a

628
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: shoulder dislocation. See that's why he was writhing on the ground.

629
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Speaker 1: They're probably popping that sucker back into place. Suffered a

630
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: shoulder dislocation. Will have an m r I Monday to

631
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: determine the damage caused. So Cook is as valuable to

632
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: his team in my opinion as Deebo is to the Niners,

633
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: and Debo will have his own m r I on Monday.

634
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: Because I don't know, you know, you can make a

635
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: case for either of these teams Greg making a big run.

636
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: Uh if they got hot at the right time. But

637
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: if you take either of those guys out of it,

638
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: you get very You kind of have to pull it

639
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: back a little bit. Agree or disagree. I agree, especially

640
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: with Diebo Samuel. I think they could survive without Cook

641
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: for a few weeks. Alexander Madison, like they're running games,

642
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: survived that you need him back at some point. You

643
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: just need both these teams to make it. I think

644
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: if you want maximum playoff enjoyment, I have to say

645
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: if I had to pick a six and a seven

646
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: seed in the NFL, of like, what's gonna be the

647
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: craziest NFC? I want Vikings Niners, Like, well, the Niners

648
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: are the team of cest L. I've waited until now today,

649
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: Dan was there, you know, the team of Zeus teetle late.

650
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: It's a little late, but you want it's on my clock. Well,

651
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: it's interesting, you actually picked to win the Super Bowl

652
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: before the season, and you you pump your fist correct

653
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: literally four weeks ago you took them off and you

654
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: said they were no longer even a playoff team on

655
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: your season, and he locked against them in a two

656
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: weeks ago. But now I'm back. The problem is when

657
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: you make so many different predictions, Mark that we have

658
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: to hold you to them all. So it does. It

659
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: does water down your problem, any problem with anything. I

660
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: feel fine. It also felt like it was like a

661
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: regressive game for Kirk Cousins. ESPN remembers ESPN stats in info,

662
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: Had says the Browns game look seven off target passes,

663
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: the highest that he's had all season, including two on

664
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: fourth down. So it's like Cousins have been playing great

665
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: and Shook up maybe just struggle. I was gonna ask you, Shook,

666
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 1: do you pause the Browns game for this or do

667
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: you know? You keep it roll? It's all real time,

668
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: like they just got a first down. This is all

669
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: real time. You know, we take we're breaking the fourth

670
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: wall here by admitting this, but yeah, I'm totally looking

671
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: at my left while you guys are arguing obviously here,

672
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: but I'm also paying attention. What's happening? Well in an

673
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: honor of Shook. If anybody else has another comment in

674
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: this game, why don't we move along now to what

675
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: went what went down? I should say in Cincinnati bloodbath slaughter,

676
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: short drop throws starting back Mike Hilton against his former

677
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: team m Burger's pass and runs it into the end zone.

678
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is embarrassing Pittsburgh so far today? Oh, how long

679
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: have the people of West Ohio waited to hear a

680
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: comment like that? Cincinnati is embarrassing Pittsburgh. Dan Hord, Dave

681
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: Lapham what they called w c k y Mike Hilton

682
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: intercepted former teammate Ben Roethlisberger took out to the house

683
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: to pick six, but Cincinnati up by four touchdowns in

684
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: the second quarter in route to a forty one to

685
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: ten win. That blowout followed a double digit Bengals win

686
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: over Pittsburgh in September, making it since the night's first

687
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: season sweep of the Steelers since two thousand. This is

688
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: the type of game that makes you think you're watching

689
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: the end of one era and the beginning of another.

690
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: In the division. Ben Roethlisberger really, I mean, he he

691
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: he he. He looked like he's looked he looked against

692
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals when they played earlier this year. That was

693
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: the game in which he threw a four yard interception

694
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: to Logan Wilson. He had two picks today. Um, their

695
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: offense regressed back to this group that we saw earlier

696
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: in the season, which was dump it off for three

697
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: or four yards because we can't trust anything else at

698
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: the middle or deep part of the field. I mean,

699
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: that is who the Steelers are when when things aren't

700
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: really going well, they can't run the ball effectively, they

701
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: can't stop the run, and credit goes to Sincinnati. They

702
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: made an emphatic statement with this wind. I mean, they

703
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: didn't need Joe Burrow to be great, but he was

704
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: still solid. They wrote Joe mix into another big game.

705
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: Carries for a hundred and sixty five yards, two touchdowns.

706
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: I mean, this was a big win for the Bengals

707
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: and the fact that they proved that they can do

708
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: it on both sides of the ball, and like you said,

709
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: the change of one, you know, maybe the passing of

710
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: a torture one team going down the hill and the

711
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: other one coming up the hill. Right now, I mean,

712
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 1: they're three and one in the division. I never would

713
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: have expected this out of these Bengals, especially after they

714
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: got blown out by the Browns a few weeks ago.

715
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: They've really used that by week and replicated last week's

716
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: performance of this one to prove that, hey, look we

717
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: we figured out some of our problems, and we know

718
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: what our strengths are. When we ride them, we can

719
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: beat most anybody. Their last two games against Baltimore and Pittsburgh,

720
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: they've outscored them eighty two to twenty seven. Thirty one

721
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: points in the first half was most ever by a

722
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: Bengals team against the Steelers, and they played a billion games.

723
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: I think this version of Cincinnati that we saw today

724
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: could beat anyone in the conference. I'm not saying you're

725
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: gonna get that every week, but the questions about them

726
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: being a Jackal and High team are quieted at the moment.

727
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: This version of the Steelers is a floating corpse because

728
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: they're about six weeks away from having a massive, burning

729
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: question at quarterback. They were totally demoralized today. This game

730
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: was over twenty minutes in thanks to Joe Mixon totally

731
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: running through it all week long. It's they didn't have

732
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: t J. Watt last time. It's gonna be a totally

733
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: different result. It didn't matter at all. I mean, they

734
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: thumped them as hard as I've seen the Bengals thump

735
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: a Steelers team in my entire life. I've such excited

736
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: in the news room watching this game. He was loving

737
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: Big Ben taking a dirt nap. It's almost like the

738
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: Bengals are I don't know, they're like the surrogates for

739
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: the Browns right now. If the Browns can't do it,

740
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: they should have feelings against the Bengals. And I think

741
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: shook them. And would you agree that of the three

742
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: teams in the division outside of Cleveland, like they've been

743
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: kind of like your dance our dance partners as Browns

744
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: fans and you know, and horrid play. But today was

745
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 1: quite a revelation the Steelers. Tomlin, you know, he said,

746
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: we're not gonna concoct any excuses. This was a butt kicking.

747
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: He also said that some changes are coming. I don't

748
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a quarterback, but they are

749
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: well see that. This is part of the problem is

750
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: that they never actually built themselves a legitimate safety net

751
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So I think they are, as Mark put it,

752
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: the equivalent of a floating corpse in the a f C.

753
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: Because you know, right down the three they've been, they've

754
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: they've dissected them into three parts. They're each and one

755
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: of the rivers are they weighed down in a bag

756
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: with some chains and rocks at the bottom. Of the

757
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: three next Um shook. Uh, is there anything that could

758
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: save the Steeler season in your mind? Or is this

759
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: are we playing out the string for the Steelers this

760
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: season and ahead of those big changes in your opinion?

761
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: I mean, their defense always gives them a chance. Their

762
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: defense not the same defense down the street. It gives

763
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: them a chance, but they have to figure out how

764
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: to stop the run, and they haven't been able to

765
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: do that. They weren't able to do that today. I mean,

766
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: I think personnel wise, for the most part, I would

767
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: still trust it will be competitive. But if they can't

768
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: do much offensively, which they haven't done in recent weeks,

769
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean except for that explosion and Sunday night, you

770
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: know last week for you know, they came back from

771
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: behind and nearly won the game. Um, if they can't

772
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: get consistent play out of that group and the defenses,

773
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: and as good as we expect it to be, this

774
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: is they are. What their record is their five five

775
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: and one, They could easily be four six and one

776
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: or or four and seven. It really, I mean, that's

777
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: who they are. They're an average team, and they're a

778
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: team that has to start figuring out what they're gonna do.

779
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 1: Under center beyond this year, and and I know there's

780
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: still some games to play, and and knowing the franchise

781
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: and history and and you know the reputation, I wouldn't

782
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: be surprised for to see them pull a out a

783
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: few more wins, But I don't have high expectations for

784
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: them because they basically are who they are in terms

785
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: of record. A few more wins is maybe the high

786
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: point that they on paper are best chance for a

787
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: team to go eight eight and one, but they have

788
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Vikings, the Titans, the Chiefs, the Browns,

789
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: and the Ravens eight and one would save that. Tomlin

790
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: has never had a losing streak record. And I just

791
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: want to say congrats to all the people holding those

792
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: Bengals over six and a half wins tickets you got,

793
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: I've got paid in November. That's big. All right, Let's

794
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: close out our time with Shook with a trip to

795
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: the Meadowlands, hurt sticks, shotgun snow. Who's gonna hand it off?

796
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: Right for Scott's goot Bubble the football and it's recovered

797
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: by joyant Love of the Giants. They got popped up

798
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: from behind and Love recovered it. Worth one thirty four

799
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: to go by Papa with the call w f A

800
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: N Yes. Giants defense was on point on Sunday. They

801
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: intercepted Jalen Hurts three times, forced four turnovers total excluding

802
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: that when you heard there, and they held the Philly

803
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: offense to a season low and points, beating the error

804
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: prone Eagles thirteen to seven. Chook Eagles Twitter was particularly

805
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: emotional during and immediately following this game. What did Big

806
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: Blue do to lead to this result? In this outpouring

807
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: of grief amongst Eagles Nation? They played stifling defense so

808
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: much that it left Eagles fans questioning the abilities of

809
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni to to actually uh scheme up an offense

810
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: that can get the ball to its playmakers because they

811
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: didn't do that very often. Jalen Hurts it three inner

812
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: aptions thrown and and his greatest strength became running and

813
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: and even in a close game, you know, they needed

814
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: to throw the ball late on two separate possessions, and

815
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: it didn't. It didn't look very good. It didn't pan

816
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: out in their favor because of the Giant. You know,

817
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: it's weird because the Giants got blown out by the

818
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: Buccaneers last week in Prime time and and led is

819
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's firing and everything else. But if you've watched

820
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: them for the last few weeks, you've noticed that their

821
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: defense is starting to come into shape, kind of like

822
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: it did last year before they fell apart down the stretch.

823
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: Um And and this was like the peak production of

824
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: that group. You know, get forcing four takeaways, a key

825
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: fumble that we heard on that clip there, Uh, Darnay

826
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: Holmes intercepting, Jalen Hurds, Xavier McKinney take Crowder. They're all

827
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: getting interceptions. Um And, and that was enough to really

828
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: keep them in the game and hang on to this lead, because,

829
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: let's face it, the offense still has a long way

830
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: to go. Freddy Kitchens in his first game as a

831
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: play caller, you know, it didn't ask too much of

832
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, and I think it worked out in their favor.

833
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, you didn't get a ton of production

834
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: out of guys. You know, thirteen carries for forty yards

835
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: and se kuon Barkley. That's not gonna of the doors

836
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: off of anybody. But it was enough to win, and

837
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: it was enough to avoid the errors that the Eagles

838
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: couldn't avoid, and that's the Giants defense was able to

839
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: capitalize on end up with this close. What about this

840
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Reagor. I saw his name pop up over and

841
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: over and over again. It sounds like he had a

842
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: tough one, seven targets, two catches that we had two

843
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: chances to win the game. That you know as as

844
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: bad of a game that Jalen Hurts had. Yeah, you

845
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: get he puts two balls in the spot where Rayor

846
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: can make a play to win the ball game at

847
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: the end. One would have been a tough catch, but

848
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: the second one he should have caught it. And that's

849
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: that's like that changes your season. That's a that's Nelson

850
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: aghil are dropping the ball type of stuff right there.

851
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: That has been a disastrous pick by and by the way,

852
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: taking one pick before justin Jefferson. Imagine Jefferson on that

853
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: Eagles team with Jalen Hurts. Uh So you have the

854
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: Giants offense still sub three hundred yards, but like we

855
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: saw last year, their defense has a chance to rise

856
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: up every once in a while and beat the team.

857
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: Does this what do we where does this leave us

858
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: with the Eagles? Now? I mean, are they just like

859
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: any of these other teams just up and down because

860
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: they felt like they were building momentum, Shookie, and it

861
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: just floated away in the New Jersey air. It's funny

862
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: I saw in the Fox pregame today, um that they

863
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: did a little uh it was kind of like a

864
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: uh parody of of like an alert and it was

865
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: like warning NFC East fans, the Philadelphia Eagles are back.

866
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: If you're a fan of the Giants, Cowboys are Washington

867
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: football team, you might be in danger. Well, you know what,

868
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: I think you can put those concerns to bed because

869
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: for as much excitement as we've gotten out of the

870
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: Eagles and some of the games they played this year,

871
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: we're also reminded that there are still a team that

872
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: has a ways to go, both in terms of roster

873
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: construction and figuring out what their identity is, because as

874
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: they proved today, they're not a consistently reliable team when

875
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: it comes into situations like this and against better opponents.

876
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if theil fair much better. I mean

877
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: if if if they're not playing the Giants, they might

878
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: lose by two three possessions. But because they're playing the Giants,

879
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: who was still a close game that they had a

880
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: chance to win all simbly couldn't come through. This backs

881
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: my theory that whenever UM a player or a player

882
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: slash team are celebrated, slash over celebrated all week long. Later,

883
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: we woke up with Jalen Hurts has answered questions at

884
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: quarterback you buying, and Rapp report they're ready to roll

885
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: with their three first round picks and build around. I'm

886
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: not saying that's not true. He's been great, but like

887
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor two, when it's just like endless hype parades,

888
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: like invariably Sunday will underwhelm. I called the Jamis Winston

889
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: corollary because I'll never forget the week sixteen, a Saturday

890
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: game where Ian reported that the Bucks are rolling forward

891
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: with Jamis he's shown enough. And then he threw like

892
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: nine interceptions in the last two games, including a walk

893
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: off pick six, and they went and signed Tom Brady

894
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 1: and the rest was history and shook ee Um, listen,

895
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: you're the pipe you delivered with a hard blow to

896
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: the uh listeners. Now it okay, thank you for joining

897
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: us and and and like Jamis Tampa, I am also history.

898
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: There he goes, get back to your game, buddy, Thank

899
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: you for joining us. Let's take a break and then

900
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: hit the rest of the Sunday games. Quick throw the

901
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: echuer deflected and intersecton Patcherton down the west seven nine.

902
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: This may be a house call. Five touchdown Denver, seventy

903
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: yards for Patch or ten. I like that, Dave Logan

904
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: ko a house call. Rookie Patrick certain the second picked

905
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: off Justin Herbert twice, returning the second one seventy yards

906
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: for a touchdown that's sparked the Broncos win over the charge,

907
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: I mean charges, What are we doing here? You go

908
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: up there after an emotional Sunday Night win and you

909
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: lay this type of egg. Anyway, This wind sets up

910
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: a showdown for the a f C West lead next

911
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: weekend in Kansas City, where the game has already been

912
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: flexed to Sunday night. That's fun, Greg vic fas you

913
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: was working his Warlock magic again. I can't get a

914
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: feel of this Broncos team. It is crazy. For as

915
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: many times as we've tried to bury them on this

916
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: show that they're playing for the division league, like you

917
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: mentioned Demember Football in December, and yet I'm still not

918
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: convinced they're like a great team. But they today showed

919
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: what Fangio wanted when he took certain Curtin has been

920
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: a good pick. He'll always be compared to then passing

921
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: on Justin Fields. It'll always be a bad process to

922
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: me that they took him for Fangio's defense when Fangio

923
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: is probably on the way out. But he's a really

924
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: good starting cornerback. And their secondary was great today, but

925
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: it was great in part because the Broncos got after

926
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and this Chargers front offensive line with just

927
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: four just four rushers. And this is like Jonathan Cooper

928
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: who stepped up and be good, and Stephen Weatherly who

929
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: they just signed off the scrap heap, and other guys

930
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: like you know, Kenny Young who they traded for from

931
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: l A. Like they're getting the eyes up the street

932
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: and playing them on their defense, and the Chargers still

933
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: can't protect in that situation and they were flumex. It's

934
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: been a trend here, I think when the Charges have

935
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: played some strong defensive play callers that can scheme up

936
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: some tricky looks in terms of coverage and and pass rush.

937
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: What they did against Baltimore and New England and now

938
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: Minnesota and now Fangio with a depleted Broncos team, the

939
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: Chargers offense has been pretty d o A in all

940
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: of those games, which is disappointing. They have it, they

941
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: and they opened the second half with an eleven play

942
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: drive that ends in a misfield goal. The Chargers. Their

943
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: next drive is third team plays ends in an interception.

944
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: Their next drive is a five play drive that ends

945
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: an interception. Then they have a garbage time touchdown. I

946
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: I have to look at the Joe Lombardi experience on

947
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: offense and feel like, as as as much as I

948
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: love Brandon Staling, how much he gets involved in all

949
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: sides of the of the football, like, it's just kind

950
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: of not working. And I love what you said on

951
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: Sky gregularly, we're kind of con to never blame um, Well,

952
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: you're not gonna blame Herbert for any of that. That's

953
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: my rule. You know, that's the number one rule of Herbert.

954
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: But blame everyone else. He he and he and Stafford

955
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 1: through pick six is almost the exact same time, which

956
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: was not a great moment for l A M fights

957
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: in general. But you don't do is there anything happening

958
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: with Herbert that is culpable here? That was a tip

959
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: pass although it was a little behind. Um, I mean,

960
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: it was it that the pick six was a drop pass.

961
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: The first interception, UM was on I gotta have it

962
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: play and it was. It was a bad play by

963
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: Herbert I mean, but even earlier in that drive, thinking

964
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: about like the fourth down crazy scramble. I really think

965
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: when you watched the tape on him, it always ends

966
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: up better than you think because he ends up making

967
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: so many plays that were just all him. Uh. And

968
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: like I said, the offensive line has been a mess,

969
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: but you got you gotta give Denver credit. They they

970
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: they did the game plan against the charges that everyone's

971
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: been doing against the Chiefs. It's like back up, make

972
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: them drive these long drives and they'll make a mistake

973
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: by the end of it. Meanwhy all the Chargers run

974
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: defense gave up a lot of yards. Again, Teddy had

975
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: one of his more UM I would say, memorable wins.

976
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: Even though he finishes with a d nine yards. He's

977
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: limping around out there. He missed three or four drives

978
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: and his shin was hurt. Drew Lock came in and

979
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: was a disaster, turned the ball over and at a fumble,

980
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: and then Teddy comes back after halftime and at least

981
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: calm things down and steered them till the wren a

982
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: quarterback and the Chargers. You know, they start the season

983
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: with four winds and and five tries, but since then

984
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: that they've lost four of six to the Ravens, to

985
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: the Patriots, to the Vikings, to the Broncos. And they're

986
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: kind of telling you who they are, which is they

987
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: have a lot of big name talent, but they're kind

988
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: of the middle of the pack team and I don't

989
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: know if we're gonna see them really ever rise up.

990
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: I feel like this is kind of who they are now.

991
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: Can't run, can't stop the run. Offensive line I think

992
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: has problems that that's like only a lot of things

993
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: going against you where you need something great to overcome it,

994
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure what they have that's great other

995
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: than Herbert, you know, making some crazy place this broadcast team.

996
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: Though now I'm like, okay, they're coming out of it

997
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: by maybe they're but you know how you're you want

998
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: like the Niners, and you want various other teams to

999
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: get that. I can't. That's I don't need to see that.

1000
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're they are. I feel like they are

1001
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: maxing out considering their injuries. I mean they lost their

1002
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: left tackle today, who was already their backup there down

1003
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: to their fourth and fifth string UH tackles. They lost

1004
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: the starting guard today. They have been crushed by injuries.

1005
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: I think they are maxing out what they can do.

1006
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: But that might be eight and seven in the end,

1007
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: right or nine and eighty. They're gonna be the first

1008
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: ever nine and eight team and the most nine and

1009
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: eight team ever assembled in professional football. But that might

1010
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: get them into the playoffs. They're interesting team to keep

1011
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: an eye on, and they are set up with a

1012
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: big spotlight game next week. Let's move on from Denver

1013
00:50:51,960 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: to Miami where the Dolphins are back. Miami miamis Toutstown

1014
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: waddles tuck into the end zone of Miami Miami. The

1015
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: Panthers paid for the interception. Oh Alabama connection right there, Diami.

1016
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: The perkup, guys, Jimmy is SEVENO follow hit me up

1017
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: with the uh in the copy here with the what

1018
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: do they call the phonetic pronunciation? Help me out that

1019
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: because I've been stumbling on that one for about seven

1020
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: years now. W q A M with the call. Jalen

1021
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: Quaddle at nine catches for a season, hid thirty seven

1022
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown. The Dolphins feast five sacks, three interceptions,

1023
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: beat the Panthers thirty three to ten. Mark at the

1024
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 1: beginning of the month, the Dolphins were dead and buried

1025
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: at one and seven. Four wins later, it's the zombie

1026
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: Dolphins lurking on the periphery of the a f C

1027
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: playoff picture. They are lurking. I would I would say

1028
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: team they played looked more, UM had more zombie characteristics

1029
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: throughout today. I mean, this was a game that if

1030
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: you're one of the Dolphins fans that are saying, I

1031
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: don't want them to go get another quarterback. I want

1032
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: to see to be given the full entree into you know,

1033
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: four years of experience in Miami, I'm not sure that

1034
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: will happen. But he was twenty seven for thirty one today.

1035
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: Weren't all splash plays because that's too uh. But the

1036
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: connection with Waddle uh was you know, bordered on electric.

1037
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Waddle showed you what he was today at a

1038
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: a hundred thirty seven yards and a touchdown off nine grabs.

1039
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: That was their offense. They're they're not a big run team. Um,

1040
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: their defense got the job done against Cam I'll get

1041
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: that to that in a second day. A blocked punt

1042
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: that went for a touchdown. That's like when the Brian

1043
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: Flores Dolphins are doing it. You're getting a little thing

1044
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: from all sides of the ball, and that that what happened.

1045
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: That's what happened today. They encountered, um a Cam Newton

1046
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: meltdown scenario. This is a pretty amazing little nugget. Cam

1047
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: Newton went five for one UM and it looked like

1048
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: it well it is her. This it is horrendous and

1049
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: it is the lowest um completion percentage by a quarterback

1050
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: with twenty plus attempts since Joey Harrington did it went

1051
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: five for twenty two Lions in two thousand and four.

1052
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: With Joe Harrington would have had a better career. You

1053
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: might be right, Cam Newton. I'll give him this um.

1054
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 1: It was. It was an ugly, ugly day. He did

1055
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: not mince words or make an excuses about the you know,

1056
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: the parade of social media hype in the I'm back business, Ricky.

1057
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: Let's hear what he said. This is the NFL. Nothing's promised.

1058
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: Just because Cam Newton's on your roster doesn't mean you're

1059
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: just gonna win. Just because it's a feel good story

1060
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're gonna win, right, I'm well aware of

1061
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: that one little thing. Like even early in the game,

1062
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: the Fox broadcast was asking like, should p J. Williams

1063
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: come in here? It looked that bad. I thought that

1064
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: would have been way premature. Matt Rule did bring him

1065
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: in down the stretch. I think they just wanted to

1066
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: pull Cam out of the fire to some degree um

1067
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: and then said after the game there's not going to

1068
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: be any change at court properly took like three sacks

1069
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: in a round. Well, yeah, I think the thing is

1070
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: the p J Williams. P J Walker. Sorry, p J

1071
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: Walker is an athletic and he's sort of fun to watch,

1072
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: but he cannot escape killer mistakes. So you're gonna go

1073
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: back to Kim Hey why? I mean Cam, it sounds like,

1074
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: and I'll watch us tomorrow, but it sounds like he

1075
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: was as miserable as can be. But you're in it

1076
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: with Cam now for the rest of the season. I

1077
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: don't think there's any way unless he like doubles up

1078
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: on this type of performance, which feels like unlikely. You're

1079
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: gonna roll with Cam, who's still going to give you

1080
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: the best chance to win. But I if you're the Panthers,

1081
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: and we'll give Dolphins, you know, a little bit more

1082
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: love in a second, But if you're the Panthers to

1083
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: kind of have all this buzz around you after Cam's

1084
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: first game and now to lose back to back games

1085
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: and this game, especially as ugly as it looked, I

1086
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: just don't like. What direction is this organization heading right now.

1087
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: Is we're getting into the back end of the second

1088
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: year of the Matt Rule era. It's fair to ask

1089
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: because I'm not seeing a ton of progress here. They're floating,

1090
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: but I think losing Christian McCaffrey to a rolled up ankle,

1091
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean again with this guy offense, I know he

1092
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: is injury prone, but they're floating in Their defense was

1093
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: a no show today. That's the thing that you think

1094
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna be their strength, and the two times in

1095
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks the defense has been you know, neutralized.

1096
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: I think Flores bring something to the table, you know,

1097
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: I have that there where it's like five coaches matter

1098
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: because they're bad. Five doesn't because they think. But what

1099
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: you want is a coach that brings something to the table.

1100
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: And what I think Flores does some sometimes in certain matchups.

1101
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: He really gives you an advantage in this Panthers offensive line,

1102
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: which has been quietly miserable all season, especially like picking

1103
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: up stunts, splits and stuff like that. It was this

1104
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: was a terrible matchup for them today to have to

1105
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: play this Dolphins defense with a quarterback that's not totally prepared. Uh,

1106
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: doesn't know the whole offense and your offensive line and

1107
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: nothing to do. And like that's twice in the last

1108
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: three weeks where I think Flores has come to the

1109
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: table because I know to have played well, but ultimately

1110
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: they had three fifteen yards on offense, where Flores kind

1111
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: of one you a couple of games here with your

1112
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: defensive gameplay took He's taking his butt out of the

1113
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: fryar Flora's with this run. I mean you know that

1114
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: he's not gonna tell you that because he's the coach,

1115
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: And well, no, that's fair to say. But if they

1116
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: have a non competitive season where they go three and fourteen,

1117
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: you could be in trouble. And at one and seven

1118
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: they're ahead of that way. But now there's some juice

1119
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: and now you get bolt New York teams coming up.

1120
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: We'll we'll spend forward on later in the week. But

1121
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: they really do have a chance to make a run

1122
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: at the playoffs now they needed this was the big one.

1123
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: If you could beat the Panthers, a team that profiled

1124
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: a frisky and dangerous in that spot, you really do

1125
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: open things up. Giants Jets at Saints uh the next

1126
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: three weeks. So they are still thirty shot here, so

1127
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: they gotta keep winning. Their thirteenth in the a f C.

1128
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: So there are a couple of losses behind still despite

1129
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: this winning. But but they're in the middle. I wanted

1130
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: to just quickly before we go, give you a couple

1131
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: of stats. Number one, Jalen Wattle over the last month

1132
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: second in the NFL and receiving yards in receptions. And

1133
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: two US played sixteen starts now, so that's a nice

1134
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: little number that we understand. Passing yards six point eight

1135
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: yards per tempt, twenty seven touchdowns, twelve turnovers. Solid. It's

1136
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: good considering again ignoring the seventeen game schedule that is

1137
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: now part of our I hate that because I have

1138
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: always thought that that's how you have that's how you

1139
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: evaluate Hall of famers, that's how you valuate you a player.

1140
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: Sixteen game. Chunks messed that. I think he even went

1141
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: down to fifteen in the prior game he said that

1142
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: it was gonna be eight and seven finish to the season.

1143
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: Was that that and the math got messed up because

1144
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: I was like trying to do out numbers. All right,

1145
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: let's get through this next game as quickly as possible.

1146
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: Atlanta at Jacksonville. Oh boy, here's Rynald the near hash

1147
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: mark Gavis Patterson straight ahead touchdown Cardarol Patterson. I kid

1148
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: jack Wars fans. That's what we do here. We give

1149
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: everybody some shine Western with the called w z g

1150
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: C g C good call. Quadurell Patterson ran for a

1151
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: career high eight yards and two touchdowns in his return

1152
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,959
Speaker 1: from an ankle injury. The Falcons win for the first

1153
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: time in three weeks over the moribund Jacksonville. Atlanta has

1154
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: now five and six. They finished with a season high

1155
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine yards on the ground. That's not

1156
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: that much. Uh, They're most since October twenty. That's weird, Greg,

1157
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: What did you learn here that Cordurel Patterson matters? I

1158
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: guess I knew that already, but I don't know. Let's

1159
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: come up with an award to give this guy sixteen runs,

1160
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: hundred and eight yards, two touchdowns, you know, like Deebo Samuel,

1161
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: like he's really gone full transition to a running back.

1162
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: He had a couple of touchdowns. And I feel like

1163
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: I know the next gen stats, you know, could could

1164
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: check this, but I believe that eight percent of the

1165
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: Falcons yardage this year are Cordurell Patterson off off miss tackles,

1166
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: like not even just normal plays just after he breaks

1167
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: the tackle. That was pretty much the offense. This will

1168
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: annoy Dan because Dan I think he's waiting for the

1169
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: Falcons to you know, vaporize itself. They are, they are,

1170
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm not matter. They are right now

1171
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: tied with the precious Minnesota Vikings at five and final spot.

1172
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: But what stands out to me is they have the

1173
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: second worst point differential at a negative a hundred and

1174
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: three points in the NFC. I know they stink, but

1175
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to help you have, but stinky teams

1176
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs and to we're just saying, from

1177
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: where we stand today, I'm not predicting that. And this

1178
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: game didn't make me feel better about them. This game,

1179
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: what it did make me feel as an appreciation for

1180
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: the love I have for the around the NFL listening

1181
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: because I missed the first half of this game. I

1182
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: was I was on a I was on a flight

1183
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: back from a friend's wedding in Miami. The Jet Blue

1184
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: had only the New York teams on the you know,

1185
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: on the flight, so so late into the AFTERDAMI, late

1186
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, as the afternoon games are on, I'm

1187
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: trucking through twenty one to three. Let's see this Trevor

1188
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: Lawrence come back. I want to see every play of this.

1189
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: Try this Trevor Lawrence come back, just so I can

1190
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 1: give the listeners a little something. And I don't really

1191
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: have much other than Ti law You know, he had

1192
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: another chance to do something where you're like, oh, that's

1193
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: a moment, because he did get the ball back. He

1194
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: had a nice touchdown drive before that. But then they

1195
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: go like four and out with two pretty bad throws

1196
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: and he's just not super accurate. That's the thing that

1197
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: worries me a little bit. I think it's safe to

1198
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: say and listen this is it's way too early to

1199
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: cast any final opinions on Trevor Lawrence. But given the

1200
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: hype and everything else. It's been a disappointing first year

1201
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: for him. And that's not just on him, but if

1202
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: you thought he was going to come into the league,

1203
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: even you know, he's been compared to Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning.

1204
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: Those guys came into the league and even if they

1205
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: had growing pains in that first year, they flashed. And

1206
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: we just haven't seen a ton of it from Trevor

1207
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: this year. Little spurts though, but he isn't a chaotic

1208
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: the worst landing, absolutely absolutely, but that the problem is

1209
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: that's not changing at least in terms of the coaching

1210
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: staff and that and that's yeah, that's part of the part.

1211
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: I just thought this was gonna be a spot when

1212
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: I picked this game too. It's like, Okay, maybe we

1213
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: have a nice Trevor Lawrence glow up game against this

1214
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: lousy Falcons and he had like a d ten yards

1215
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: going into the fourth quarter. I'm a loser. That's absolutely right. Last, last,

1216
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: but not least Miami. We had to not Miami Houston

1217
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: for the game of the day. Zo Wilson's staff and

1218
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: it's a quarterback people that sits back to the left,

1219
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: dives for the goal he's in. That's a Jet touchdown.

1220
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: All right, Bob was Shusan on our show for the

1221
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: third time this year. Is Zack Wilson had more downs

1222
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: than ups in his return from a four week injury layoff,

1223
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: but his four yard touchdown scramble was pivotal win for

1224
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: the Jets over the Texans, the favorite Texas in Houston.

1225
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: By the way, the home I was a little annoying. Um.

1226
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: The home teams went seven three this Sunday entering SNF

1227
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: F Y I. The Texans, Uh, you know, they're hoping

1228
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: to build on their upset of the Titans last week,

1229
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: and they're up fourteen three in this game. But then

1230
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,919
Speaker 1: their offense just went to bed Tyrod Taylor through two

1231
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: touchdown passes in the second quarter and that was it

1232
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: for the game. Uh. They had a chance to tie

1233
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: it late, but Bryce Hall, who's done pretty good work

1234
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: for the Jets in their secondary and secondary knockdown a

1235
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: pass intended for Nico Collins and fourth and two to

1236
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: give New York the ball back. And then they did

1237
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: what they need to do to wind down the clock

1238
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: get the win. I thought. Michael Floor, who's really had

1239
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: a nice month after a rocky started as o C

1240
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: did something that is not easy to do. He had

1241
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: to coach around a rookie quarterback who was struggling and

1242
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: dig out of a double digit deficit. I mean you,

1243
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: that's not usually a needle. You can't thread that needle typically,

1244
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: but he did. And I guess when you're playing the

1245
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: Texans it helps as well. Because Wilson was not good

1246
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: in this game and he appeared to aggravate that knee

1247
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: injury on a scramble in the second half, so he's

1248
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: not healthy still. Um, but he missed too many and

1249
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: too many throws. And you know I don't have I

1250
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: don't host a quarterback camp. I'm not a give me

1251
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: a QB guru, Greg Um, you don't write QB index.

1252
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm not a Greg Rosie. I'm not uh jt Sell.

1253
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm not a Jordan Palmer. Tom House. I'm not a

1254
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: Tom House. But I can tell you this that the

1255
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: game is moving super fast for Zach Wilson, and you

1256
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: could see it. He had a really bad interception where

1257
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,919
Speaker 1: he scrambled and threw a shovel pass into the back

1258
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: of his running back that, of course, then ricochets off

1259
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: the back of the jersey and into the hands of

1260
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: the defender. It's just a classic moment of everything is

1261
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: moving too fast for him. If if Tom Brady has

1262
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: mastered the sport by everything slowing down, Zach Wilson is

1263
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: still on the other side of that spectrum where everything

1264
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: is moving at light speed and you could just see

1265
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: it the way he moved. Um. So that's frustrating because

1266
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: you were hoping for progress. But again, uh, they did

1267
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: get a win, and I guess it is on in

1268
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: New York City. This is this is the fun fact.

1269
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: This is the first time the Jets and Giants won

1270
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: on the same day since nineteen And also, by the way,

1271
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: Justin Reid was deactivated for disciplinary reasons from this team

1272
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: that is all about like our culture or culture. Maven's like,

1273
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: that's the third first thing I read this morning that

1274
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: read essentially in a fight with um team brass over

1275
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: something and becomes a free agent after this season. Did

1276
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: not play today, Give me a break. Also, one of

1277
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: their better players. These two teams combined for four hundred

1278
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: and sixty years, so they combined for you know, a

1279
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: lot less than the Raiders had the other day. I

1280
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be number one in the game.

1281
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: Pass Um this one. If you're lucky, it will be

1282
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: in that like thirty one to thirty three minute range. Uh,

1283
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: the the quick game pass version one though, because I

1284
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: just feel like they've been better than the Texans this

1285
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: year and and you're right that Texas laying wood in

1286
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: that spot. Yeah, there's just something like I just feel

1287
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: like that. It's right, It's just right. I'll take the devil.

1288
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: I don't care about draft standings. I don't give it.

1289
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't give a hoot. I just I'll take the

1290
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: w But I need the boy to play better. It's

1291
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: still not happening all right now. That takes us to

1292
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and highly emotionally charged Sunday night football affair

1293
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: against the team that was ripped from the belly of

1294
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: the Browns. As the man they call the Quiet Storms said,

1295
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: after this Sunday Night, Jackson takes the snap, pressures coming

1296
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: cloudy almost got it. He's rolling back to the thirty

1297
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: five yard like throws as he's hit. He throws to

1298
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: the episode touchdown Ravens been a little field of Mark

1299
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: Andrews who came back to make the touchdown reception. It's

1300
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: a thirteen yard touched out officially, but It was about

1301
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: a thirty seven yard pass from Lamar Jackson. Yes that

1302
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: hey in the barn for the Baltimore Ravens and one

1303
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: of those classic rugged a f C North affairs. The

1304
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: Ravens hold off to Cleveland Brown sixteen to ten at

1305
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: M and T Bank Stadium, and they win a game

1306
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: in which Lamar Jackson threw four interceptions, including three in

1307
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: a single quarter of play. Usually that's doomed, but it

1308
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: wasn't on this Sunday because the defense of Baltimore rose

1309
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: up and shut down the Cleveland Brown's offense all night,

1310
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: especially on that final drive when the Browns needed to

1311
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 1: get down the field for seven, they could not produce

1312
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: a first down or even throw to the sticks there

1313
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: Um when it counted, Ark Seessler, Uh, your Brownies fallowed

1314
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: six and six. The Ravens move to eight and three

1315
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: and feel like they are in command of the af

1316
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: C North. Yeah. I mean, I think if we had

1317
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: done our preview show on Thursday, and you know, the

1318
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: football gods had whispered in my year before we discussed

1319
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: this game that Lamar would do what you just said,

1320
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: that he would throw four interceptions, and I would tell

1321
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: you I'll go to NFL research with that, and they'd

1322
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: come back and say that since qbs to do that,

1323
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: starters to throw four interceptions the game are oh and

1324
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: thirty seven, Now they're one in thirty seven. It's because

1325
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: Cleveland could do very little with those gifts. I mean,

1326
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what else you could ask this defense

1327
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: to have done. I mean, I felt the frustration that

1328
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney felt, um that so many defenders feel, chasing

1329
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: Lamar around and unable to close the deal. But they

1330
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: did in so many ways. I mean, the turnovers are

1331
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: the gifts that the Brown's offense should have done something with.

1332
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: Here's what they could hear what they got off of

1333
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: that three points, a field goal, two punts, and the

1334
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: ball flickering out of Baker Mayfield's hands um at a

1335
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: key moment that set the Ravens up. So this Brown's

1336
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 1: offense um looked broken against the Lions, Uh muddled, really

1337
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: weird play selection. I thought tonight they got too cute

1338
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: with that Jarvis Landry um, you know, strip sacked. It

1339
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 1: was was a bit of a nightmare. And you know,

1340
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: if the football gods had also told me, oh, by

1341
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: the way, along with those gifts, you're gonna run for

1342
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: forty yards at two point four yards per carry. You

1343
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: aren't gonna have outside of Jarvis Landry, anyone really helping

1344
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: out in the passing game. And Baker Mayfield. You know,

1345
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that last drive was, um a

1346
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: great situation for him, but that was another chance for

1347
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield to seal a game and do something in

1348
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: a big national spot, an Island game, like you say, Dan,

1349
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: and they fizzled. And that's what their offense has been

1350
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: for for weeks now, um a fizzle operation. Yeah. I

1351
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: can't believe how bad this Brown's offenses. I don't think

1352
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: Kevin an Sky can believe it either, And that's why

1353
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: I think he keeps calling passing plays in situations where

1354
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: Browns fans are like, why don't we just try to

1355
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: run the vaults because he's he's looking at the numbers,

1356
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: he's seeing the way defenses are playing them. In the

1357
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: book says, you do what the defense gives you. You know,

1358
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: you can take what the defense gives you. And I

1359
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: think defense is, especially the Ravens tonight or in a sense,

1360
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: giving the Browns a pass passing game. They're giving him

1361
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: one on one matchups. They were run blitzing all night.

1362
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: Now they also the Browns didn't run well when they

1363
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: tried to run, and so that that was a problem.

1364
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: But he's calling these class plays and they don't have

1365
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 1: a passing game right now that can overcome it. Uh.

1366
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: Even in a game like this where I still thought

1367
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: they had a chance there at the end, it was

1368
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 1: it was that like ugly old a f C North game.

1369
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: I was hoping Baker could just give us a little

1370
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: entertainment at the end. Come on, you kept you kept

1371
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: thinking that maybe they had something special. Uh. In the

1372
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, they scored the touchdown on that hotly contested

1373
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: David and Joku catch, which is one of the more

1374
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: kind of borderline uh coin flip plays I can remember

1375
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: where it doesn't matter how much you slow it down. Um,

1376
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: you can't really discern whether that was a catch or not.

1377
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: And because they ruled it a catch on the field,

1378
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: it was the right move to keep it as a touchdown.

1379
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: That ended up being the only touchdown the Browns had.

1380
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker and his brilliance, he takes care of all

1381
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: his opportunities and that ends up being the margin for victory.

1382
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 1: But Mark, I think I mean, you've hit on it

1383
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: with the Browns, and no one's tracking this team closer

1384
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: than you that We're now twelve games into the season,

1385
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: and you know, they've had some nice moments this year,

1386
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 1: a blowout of Cincinnati a couple of weeks back. There

1387
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: have been other games that have been quality wins you

1388
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 1: would define them as. But how many times now have

1389
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: they had a chance, an opportunity to do something special

1390
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: and really put their season on a different trajectory and

1391
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: they just fall short? And I just wonder what they

1392
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: can do at this point to fix it. As are

1393
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: you to do deep into a season to find that

1394
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: type of DNA or is there something really missing here?

1395
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: They're not. They're not a team that's like well positioned

1396
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: too to battle from behind to start um. But to

1397
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: your question, like that is become their character trait in

1398
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: their character flaw. I mean you could point to four

1399
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: or five games this year where you know, had Baker

1400
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: Mayfield been Joe Montana late eighties, they their record would

1401
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: be vastly different. And I'm not putting it all on

1402
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I think systemically, the loss of Odell Beckham,

1403
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: like from a production numbers standpoint, doesn't look too big.

1404
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,600
Speaker 1: But I think the way the defenses would treat the

1405
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: Browns wide receiver group and their tight end group in

1406
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: general has changed a lot. Like I see a group

1407
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 1: of white outs that that can't separate or get open.

1408
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you don't have Anthony Schwartz in there.

1409
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: Uh like that that's a speed guy, but he has

1410
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: his production. He's a rookie. But it's like they just

1411
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: don't have that guy that really scares you at this point. Um.

1412
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: I think losing Harris and Bryant didn't help them tonight.

1413
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 1: But but I'm pointing to like they're they're most not

1414
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: even like three tight end sets. And I think that

1415
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: this offense um has been slightly figured out, and uh,

1416
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: you know, teams are attacking it differently than last year

1417
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: when there was you know, they were able to kind

1418
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: of do what they wanted to do and mystify defensive coordinators.

1419
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: That's not the case. The Ravens, I thought, diagnosed them

1420
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 1: really well tonight and did what the Ravens do. And

1421
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: yet there were more open Browns receivers tonight than Ravens receivers.

1422
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: Like well, the uple plays had about three or four

1423
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: great throws in this game, which is why I struggled

1424
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 1: with the whole injury thing of like we put it

1425
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: all on the on the injuries. But he had some

1426
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: gems and his biggest problems came on plays where he

1427
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: held the ball where he did the pump fake thing.

1428
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: On one of them he just fumbled and dropped it,

1429
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: but on another one he just seemed like he had

1430
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: an open receiver, does the pump, holds it and then

1431
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: bad things happen. And then on the flip side, it's

1432
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson has a disastrous night, four interceptions, a

1433
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: couple other miss throws that he had, and yet he

1434
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of Brady in that. Like

1435
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: you know, like if you're an opponent of Lamar, all

1436
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: you're thinking is like he still made that Lamar play

1437
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: where he back pedals back to the thirty five and

1438
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: hits a freaking touchdown. He still had that play where

1439
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: he evades like four different tacklers to get out of

1440
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: a sack and make a completion. Like in the end,

1441
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: like he ends up winning these games with a couple

1442
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: of winning plays and you're just like, oh, that that's Lamar.

1443
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: But he's getting wins. It seems fair that like Lamar

1444
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be critiqued the same way that another baker or

1445
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: another quarterback would for throwing for receptions because you still

1446
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: know he's going to be a game changer down the stretch.

1447
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: And like the Ravens didn't change what they were doing

1448
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: because of any of that, and they and the defense

1449
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: ultimately bailed him out. I know he made a couple

1450
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: of big throws and showed that great escapability all night long,

1451
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: but he averaged four yards per carry on I believe

1452
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: twelve attempts. He threw the ball up for grabs all game,

1453
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: and the d just balled out in a huge spot.

1454
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: Even right down to that final series, the Browns go

1455
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: four and out and they get a fourth down stop

1456
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 1: where you know it's short of the sticks, they get

1457
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: the tackle, and they walk off with a win. Where

1458
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: you throw four interceptions in prime time, that's a that's

1459
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 1: a big win for the Ravens and the Browns. They

1460
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: got there looking for answers right now and it's getting

1461
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: late early. We might have to talk like m v

1462
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: P or something on Tuesday. I don't know. It's like

1463
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: Lamar in his last five games that just scribbled this

1464
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: down forgive me if I'm wrong, has seven touchdowns, nine

1465
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 1: interceptions and taking seventeen sacks. It has not gone well

1466
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: over the last five Well that's why everyone's, you know,

1467
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: trying to figure that out. And that's why when Jonathan

1468
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: Taylor blew up last week and as he had over

1469
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: two months that, it was like, Okay, maybe we'll give

1470
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: it to a running back, because the quarterback position this

1471
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: year doesn't have a guy that's really running away with

1472
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: this thing. Stafford, you thought might do it, It's not happening.

1473
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray got hurt, Lamar Jackson now has gone sideways.

1474
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 1: Brady still makes sense as an option obviously, But yeah,

1475
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: that's a conversation perhaps for another show. Mark, How you doing, buddy?

1476
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: You seem like you're in I feel like you're in

1477
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: a in a some healthy place with this Brown's team

1478
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: where a loss like this isn't crushing you. In fact,

1479
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: you locked up the Ravens, so congratulations. Yes, um, you know,

1480
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 1: a minor solace, But I mean I think that we

1481
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: You asked me a couple of weeks ago in our

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01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: network show Lock it Up Right with a joyous occasion,

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01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: like who are who is this team, and I kind

1484
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: of just felt back then like they are what they are,

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01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: Like they're just there's a lot of there's more questions

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01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: than answers. Um, they're frustrating to watch. I think they

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01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: must be. They must be feeling extremely frustrated. And they

1488
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: aren't built right now to win games like this um

1489
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: in their own division where Baltimore is and that's who

1490
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: the Ravens have been against Cleveland forever. And like I said,

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01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: I think that they the Ravens always reveal Cleveland's um

1492
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 1: character and I guess status maybe more than characters sometimes too.

1493
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: And they revealed Cleveland status tonight and guess what the

1494
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: Browns hit thereby and then come back and play the

1495
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: Ravens again. Uh in week fourteen. That will have huge consequences.

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01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: Let's get it together, NFL. The Browns are doing this,

1497
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: and so are the Patriots. Wait, what's wrong? I think

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01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of a neat little wrinkle. It doesn't happen

1499
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 1: all at all. I think that's so bro I don't

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01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: love it, but I put them out like it's all

1501
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: about adjustments. SINCEAI playing the same team twice in a row,

1502
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: it's it's a different type of challenge for the coaching staff.

1503
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's just different. Hey, you know what else

1504
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: is different? Like, uh, this BTS group biggest pop in

1505
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: on the world, Ricky jump on a second. So you

1506
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: were in between our early taping and now you walk past, uh,

1507
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 1: you know, our commissary, and you heard the squealing of

1508
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: seventy thousand girls, including I would think Greg's own daughter.

1509
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: I thought I heard Ellis. Actually I heard Ellis and

1510
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: and it was right at the beginning, you know where

1511
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: they like play music and the lights come down and

1512
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: you're like waiting for a group to come up, and

1513
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 1: then I think there's seven of them. You could hear

1514
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 1: them come up, and I thought there was like an earthquake,

1515
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: like our office building was shaking. It is out of

1516
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: control over there. I went for a second just to

1517
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: get a feel of it too. It's definitely louder for

1518
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: BTS than any rams or charge ever. Greg. You you uh,

1519
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: you coughed up half your paycheck for those tickets, and

1520
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: I think it's worth it, uh to give your daughter

1521
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: that experience. Before we sign off and mark you, you

1522
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: feel free to log off. You know you don't have

1523
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: to deal with this after a Brown's loss but again,

1524
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: like you're in a healthy I'm just curious because I

1525
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: don't have a real working knowledge of BTS. I asked

1526
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: Ricky just to pull up the three biggest BTS songs

1527
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: on Spotify, and I want to know if if anyone's

1528
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: recognizing any of them or what we think of them.

1529
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 1: Just check in real quick. Okay, I know all three,

1530
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: but that could just be I know out three. There's

1531
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: only three in the English language, so I could even

1532
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: name them for you before you put it wrong. There's

1533
01:17:51,240 --> 01:18:04,799
Speaker 1: more than that. Here's the first one, just because from difference.

1534
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I think I believe I saw Chris

1535
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: Martin there. That's a collab Chris. Okay, that one. What

1536
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: else I know that you were, but it's it's skyrocket disappointing.

1537
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: But Dan, I think you will know whoa Okay, not totally.

1538
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: I think you know that. I mean I know the

1539
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: source material. I don't. I didn't know. I wasn't aware

1540
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: of their like tenanch remix version or whatever it is.

1541
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 1: All right, let me hear one more. Are these are

1542
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 1: over like a billion? Yeah, they're like they're too big

1543
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: numbers for me to pronounce. All right, one more? Anybody

1544
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: else curious. No, no, like it's good to be tapped

1545
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: into songs, although the first one not so much, but yeah,

1546
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: the other ones, this one Greg plays all the time.

1547
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: But for dream meal Bed I've heard that before. So

1548
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: they are they? So? Is that the is that guy?

1549
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: The styles, the Harry styles, the Justin timber Lake of

1550
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: the group you seem to be they're all. There's a lot,

1551
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: but there is one I think that is like the one.

1552
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: I think his name is John. I don't know. I

1553
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: don't even want to see Greg, but yeah, what's his name?

1554
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: We're just sounding so so old like MM play some

1555
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: more of these, Greg, don't be self conscious, just embrace

1556
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 1: that you like Yes, you like rap. There's a thirst

1557
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 1: for knowledge here, Greg. You know it's okay. I've gotten

1558
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: all the knowledge I need of BTS over the list.

1559
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: I just think it's funny that you're like playing it

1560
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 1: cool because when we were coming back from doing the

1561
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: UM Sunday Night Show in London, we're walking back to

1562
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 1: the hotel, it's two am, we're getting ready to start

1563
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: the show and Greg, you literally pumped her fist and

1564
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: you go, yes, Emmaica got the tickets for beating It

1565
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: was because I like love my family. Yeah, it was,

1566
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 1: it was. It was an uphill battle. We didn't think

1567
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: she was going to be able to get it, and

1568
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 1: uh it happened. Initially, the tickets Greg, they were for

1569
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: him and Jessel Nick and some other guy, and then

1570
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: Emmaica decided otherwise. No, I was supposed to get the tickets,

1571
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: but then we were on the stage when they when

1572
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: they went on sale, and I was like, I can't

1573
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 1: possibly pull this off. Well, it all worked out, and

1574
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: I feel enlightened now. I feel like I'm under I'm

1575
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: surfing the zeitgeist right now with all that melody pumped

1576
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: into my I feel like you the way home, you know,

1577
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: and see what you think. I think you should work

1578
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: in smooth like butter into your like daily binocular. All right,

1579
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: I'll work on that. All right, good stuff, good show.

1580
01:20:56,280 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: That's the flagship program. And remember this, These games occurred

1581
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, so they count. Okay, keep that in mind.

1582
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: When you put your head to pillow, you're there in

1583
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: a really good place. Emotional links. Your team one like me,

1584
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 1: jets one to oh. In games that count, we're flying.

1585
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: Everybody else not so hot. Well, half the leak. That's

1586
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: the breakdown. Good night. All right, they're ready to go.

1587
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: This stand has a signing off for Quiet Storm. The

1588
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 1: old boss Ricky Hollywood until Tuesday, he'd the call m

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01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: spe