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Speaker 2: There were multiple situational moments in that game when Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 2: that offensive coach, dialed up wonderful, clever, smart plays for Tua,

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Speaker 2: many coming on third and long. That really helps the quarterback. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Staley to me, appears over his head. At the

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Speaker 2: The Chargers are completely ill prepared, as Vic Fangio, which

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Speaker 2: he's not prone to do as a defensive coordinator, dials

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Speaker 2: a really good coaching staff, Mike McDaniel and Vic Fangio

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Speaker 2: not viewed as the logical choice. Brian dabol was, who

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Speaker 2: watch the replay of this game, multiple situational moments where

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Speaker 2: really good coaching and Miami's side won the game. I

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Speaker 2: feel bad for Justin Herbert, but so much to this

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Speaker 2: league is where you land, what coach you get, what

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Speaker 2: have so much talent, very few whiffs in free agency

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Speaker 2: But in the last two drives with each team, you

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Speaker 2: Speaking of offensive coaching, Mike Tomlin, how many years is it?

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Speaker 2: As the Steelers put out an embarrassing effort and get

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Speaker 2: So here's another example. Brock Purty, seventh rounder offensive coach.

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Speaker 2: Hasn't he just gotten better and better? Canny Pickett appeared

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Speaker 2: And yet Purdy had time to throw. Purdy again played

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Speaker 2: talk about Chicago Bears hosting the Green Bay Packers once again.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love has an offensive coach, Justin Fields has a

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Speaker 2: defensive coach. I thought Greg Olsen made a really good

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Speaker 2: point during that game, is that for Justin Fields, running

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Speaker 2: And again it can be very productive. But again, Jordan

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Speaker 2: I don't think Jordan Love is a special player, but

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Speaker 2: This was a big game for Justin Fields. I said

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Speaker 2: he's on the road. It's his first massive start, maybe

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Speaker 2: and I thought the Bears offense looked very disjointed. Again,

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Speaker 2: I just feel like, I feel like it's just a

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Speaker 2: But in the end, three straight examples Miami over the Chargers,

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Speaker 2: with offensive coaches that are growing, steady, playing with pace

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Speaker 2: he Pickett Forrenetick? Justin fields at times frenetic? You know, basically,

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Speaker 1: It's like the.

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Speaker 2: Chargers could not block the Dolphins in those last couple

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Speaker 2: of snaps. Ill prepared would they be with an offensive coach,

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Speaker 2: offensive culture. I have my doubts. Final game, Russell Wilson

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Speaker 2: They're trying to get to the point quickly in meetings,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how this relationship's gonna work. It works

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Speaker 2: Out is the podcast former NFL scout Gone Middle Cooff

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Speaker 2: and I feel this way about Daniel Jones. If everything's

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Speaker 3: You know, watching Tyreek Hill today, who's not just one

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Speaker 3: But we're not gonna let Steph Curry go for seventy

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Speaker 2: is it just sort of a one off that you know,

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Speaker 2: they're not terribly deep, they'll get banged up. But I mean,

428
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Speaker 2: I watched the second half that game. I'm like, Okay,

429
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: this isn't competitive. This is not a competitive football game.

430
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: It was almost Niners. Beating Pittsburgh. The way they did

431
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: was surprising. The Rams hammering Seattle, to me, was one

432
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: of the shocks of the day. How was it for you?

433
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Speaker 3: Turn turns out Stafford's been studying that scrapbook of all

434
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: the guys' names. Huh, Because here's the reality. If he

435
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 3: is healthy, he can go to toe to toe with

436
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Speaker 3: anyone in the league on a given game. I don't

437
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: care who he's playing with because he's used to playing

438
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: with inferior teams for what a decade plus in Detroit.

439
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: I know they had some years where they were talented,

440
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 3: but he played with a lot of bad teams. Every

441
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 3: time I looked up, Stafford was clearly awesome today. I mean,

442
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: he was throwing seeds all over the field. The number

443
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: one thing I thought about Seattle coming into this season,

444
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Speaker 3: and everyone just chocked them up because he has a

445
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 3: great story, he's easy to root for, and we're all humans.

446
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: When you see a game, I kind of go through

447
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: the mud and then come out. And the perspective that

448
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: he has. Who's not rooting for Gino Smith when you

449
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 3: hear him talk. But in the history of the league,

450
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 3: most guys, they might have a year like that, they

451
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: usually don't go on to resurrect what rich Gannon did

452
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 3: in Oakland is like an all time outlier situation, right, so,

453
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Speaker 3: and most people, and I'm guilty of this too, I

454
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: just chock Seattle. Oh yeah, there'll be ten ten wins.

455
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 3: Their roster's pretty good. If Gino's just solid, Well, what

456
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 3: if he's not not solid, what if he's bad? Right,

457
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: He's three and seven in his last ten games. In

458
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: a lot of those games, several against the Niners, he

459
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 3: has not looked good. He looks overwhelmed. He's not a

460
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: great athlete, so he's not gonna make plays out of nothing.

461
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: And if they're not blocking for him as they did today,

462
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 3: he's in major trouble. I mean, he was, he was atrocious.

463
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 3: He was really bad. Staffords listen, as you said a

464
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Speaker 3: long time ago, they tried to, you know, trade the

465
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 3: pay cuts. He makes a lot of money, but he

466
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: does make a lot of money for a reason. Yeah,

467
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,479
Speaker 3: you know, when they gave him the contract, no one

468
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: thought it was that crazy. His talent when he's on

469
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: and he's healthy, when mess Safford is healthy and playing well,

470
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Speaker 3: he's a high end, Pro.

471
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Speaker 1: Bowl level guy.

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Speaker 3: I do think it's a little bit of a red

473
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Speaker 3: flag though. What if Gino comes back to Earth and

474
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Speaker 3: what if he's the twenty third well quarterback in the

475
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: NFL this year not the fourteenth.

476
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Speaker 2: Yes, and the Seahawks one of their tackles got hurt,

477
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 2: so it's like, oh, now it's Gino without the pressure,

478
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: with pressure and not the protection he got last year.

479
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, I mean, I think you said

480
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: it best to start. We all have these storylines, we're

481
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: all filling time during the baseball season, and then a

482
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: Week one and you're like, oh, you know, Sean McVay

483
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: is a really good coach and they actually have some

484
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: pretty good offensive personnel.

485
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Speaker 3: I do think you gotta be careful, and I'm guilty

486
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: of this, just like we all are overreacting to Week

487
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: one right, everyone will right off the Giants and you'll

488
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 3: look up and they'll be fourn two the Steelers. Next

489
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 3: week I playing the Browns. Everyone's gonna take the Browns,

490
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure because of what happened the day in both games,

491
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 3: and it usually kind of plays itself out. Same thing

492
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: with the Rams, Right, is he gonna look like that

493
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 3: every game they played the forty nine Ers this upcoming week?

494
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 3: Is mass Stafforc gonna look like that against that defense?

495
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: Probably not, is Roku. I don't even know who this

496
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: guy is making all every time I looked up, seventeen's

497
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: catching the ball over the middle, making plays, Cooper cups

498
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: on ir. Eventually, some of this stuff catches up to you.

499
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: Unless they hit on some of these players. And actually

500
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 3: we know they have a high end coach. Maybe they're scrappier.

501
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: And if Matt Stafford can play seventeen games as a

502
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 3: healthy player, maybe they're closer to an eight win team

503
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: than a four win team. Because part of my thing

504
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: was like, No's elbow will creep up. He'll get banged

505
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 3: up because they won't be able to block. Today look

506
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: pretty perfect when you looked up now historically, right, the

507
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 3: last three or four years, Seattle hasn't exactly had Nick

508
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: Boson TJ.

509
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: Watt running after you. So we'll see how it.

510
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: Looks this week with the forty nine ers, seven eight

511
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: guys that they're going to be chasing them all game.

512
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Speaker 2: So obviously we're all judged by certain things. In my business,

513
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: it really is ratings in revenue. If you don't get them,

514
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: you're off radio right. For pass rushers, I need sacks

515
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: and quarterback hits. That's where you get the big money.

516
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: For coaches, it's.

517
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: All about wins.

518
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: Nothing else matters, personalities and irrelevant quarterbacks. It's mostly about winning.

519
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: But if you do have talent, people will stick with

520
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: you longer and see if they can turn it around.

521
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: But Justin Fields is now five and twenty one got

522
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: dragged as a home favorite. Jordan Love I thought was

523
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: more composed and as I watched Justin Fields today and

524
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: Greg Olsen said this, like it's supposed to be running

525
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: to complimentary piece to a quarterback. Even Lamar, you got

526
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Speaker 2: to sit in the pocket and I still don't see

527
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: a really truly comfortable, consistent look around the field go

528
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Speaker 2: to a second, third read quarterback. He is incredibly dynamic.

529
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 2: I almost feel like it's a curse. He is so

530
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: dynamic athletically that it's just he can get yards every

531
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Speaker 2: time he runs. But I mean, where are you now

532
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: in Justin Fields? And again it's not like Jordan Love

533
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: tore everybody up, but Jordan's got a better on line.

534
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: Jordan had a better run. But I feel like it's

535
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: the curse of being gifted. Cam Newton had some of

536
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: this where it's like, I can run and get yards.

537
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, by the way, until day Ball got that

538
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: I can run and get yards? Where are you now

539
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: in Justin Fields? Because he didn't look you know, that

540
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: was an ugly.

541
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Speaker 1: Loss at home.

542
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Speaker 3: I had the volume on that game. And let me

543
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Speaker 3: just say, I think Greg Olsen is the best young

544
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: former player on TV right now. I mean he's he's

545
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: really good.

546
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: He really is.

547
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Speaker 3: He's stud Listen, I going back a couple of years,

548
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: I lean with guys like Justin Fields coming out in

549
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: a draft, right the size, the arm strength, he did

550
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: it at a high level in the playoff game. Obviously,

551
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: the athleticism, the blue chip pedigree. But let's face a

552
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: lot of coaches in the NFL, and listen, they don't

553
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: always agree with with us to talk about it. With

554
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: scouts sometimes they can you know, see don't see eyed eye,

555
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: But with quarterbacks they view a lot of the intangible stuff,

556
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: the processing how they see it, and that was a

557
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: huge knock on him. For example, Kyle Shanahan wanted nothing

558
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: to do with him. It was between Mac and Trey

559
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: Lance because he didn't think he could probab.

560
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: So when you watch.

561
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: Today, he looks exactly to me like he did in

562
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: the middle of last year. This is the same exact player.

563
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: It's not there. You just kind of run around right,

564
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 3: makes a couple of plays in the flat. Now, going

565
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: into this game, I love the Packers, and I had

566
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: no clue what Jordan Love was gonna look like. And

567
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: I assumed justin fields wasn't gonna be great, just because

568
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: I think their team is a lot better than the

569
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: Bears be not very good. You know, there are lines

570
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: terrible that their defense.

571
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: Packers. These are all businesses. The Packers are a well

572
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: run business. The Bears aren't.

573
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: No exactly, But I think I said this to you

574
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 3: last time we talked. I do think the Bears are

575
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: going to be in a good position if this doesn't

576
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: work out, because they won't be good. So they're gonna

577
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: have eye pick and they have Carolina who's gonna have

578
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: a very long year. So if sometimes you're in a

579
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: position where it's like, oh, we're gonna end up and

580
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: with a six pick and we had this guy that

581
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: we traded up for didn't, that's not gonna be the situation.

582
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: It's gonna be an easy pivot. But I today was

583
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: not a good day for him just in terms of

584
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: the eye test. Obviously statistically it wasn't great. As an athlete,

585
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 3: he is remarkable. I mean remarkable. He is Michael vick Lamar,

586
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: but he's got a little more power. He's got like

587
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurt's power to him. He's a special athlete. But

588
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: to be good at that position, especially what they're kind

589
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: of looking for. And think of where Ryan Pol's come from.

590
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: He was around Patrick Mahomes for years. He didn't draft

591
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: the guy, so the clock really was on all off

592
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: season when they added Dj Moore. I think he's going

593
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: to be in major trouble as the season progresses because

594
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: I don't think they're teams that good, and honestly, he

595
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: just has some flaws that maybe a lot of the

596
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: coaching staff around the league that evaluate him would say

597
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: he's always had.

598
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: Now, what did you make of Jordan Love's performance? Again,

599
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: better protection, nice run game, mostly hit the throws that

600
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: were available. I thought he was I would just say steady,

601
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: and I thought he had a certain pace to him

602
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: that was comfortable. That was my euro former scout.

603
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he missed a big deep ball. I

604
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: think they called a PI, but he overthrew him by

605
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: a time. Obviously the play floor schemed up on the

606
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: throwback that I.

607
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: Think was a touchdown.

608
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely has some athleticism and clearly he's not terrible.

609
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to judge.

610
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna need about three or four more

611
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: games to feel like, Okay, they got something there or

612
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: by no means am I putting the stamp of approval

613
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: on it. But today was definitely a positive. I think

614
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: he inherits And this was always talked about with Trey

615
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: Lance forever with the forty nine ers and why it's

616
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: easy for Brock perty Now the team is pretty good,

617
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: right Watson, who had eight or nine touchdowns last year,

618
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: was on the sideline in street close.

619
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Speaker 1: He'll be back right now.

620
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: We'll see what happens Aaron Aaron Jones had a hamstring

621
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: or whatever. He's excellent. They have a good offensive line,

622
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: they have a ton of highly drafted defensive players.

623
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Speaker 1: The beef with Aaron.

624
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: Rodgers like, wait, do you understand you got it pretty

625
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: good here.

626
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: You got a lot of good players around you.

627
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: You're not playing for the Houston Texans here, And I

628
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: think Jordan Love got pretty lucky in the sense that

629
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: that's the team that drafted him and the way this

630
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: all played out, Now, it's going to get harder, right

631
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: when you start just playing The Lions are a much

632
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: better team, right, and you have to look at their schedule,

633
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: but the.

634
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: Bears decent chance, they're one of the worst.

635
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: Teams they will play all season, even though it was

636
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: a road game.

637
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, finally Jets Bills. I you know, I

638
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: talked to somebody, Chad Millman's are real sharp better and

639
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: he said, you know, and who else did I talk to?

640
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: Was Eric Mangini said, this is that Aaron Rodgers on

641
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: a Monday night in New York, He's going to be

642
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: dialed in. And when Aaron's dialed in, now, we've seen

643
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Speaker 2: times when he's not dialed in for the off season

644
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Speaker 2: he can. You know, we've seen what He's not completely committed,

645
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Speaker 2: he's not as good, and he has aged, but I

646
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Speaker 2: just have this feeling he's really been really laser focused.

647
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Speaker 2: My guess is we got we have ourselves a really

648
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Speaker 2: fun game tomorrow night. Is there any side do you

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Speaker 2: like any what do you expect to see.

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Speaker 3: I've come around on the Jets. Now we got to

651
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Speaker 3: see how Beckton, if he can just stay on the field,

652
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Speaker 3: and if he can just be a functional right tackle,

653
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Speaker 3: because the forty nine ers have a bad right tack.

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Speaker 3: You can function with a questionable right tackle right most

655
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Speaker 3: most are not Lane Johnson. I think their formula, just

656
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: big picture, is gonna be pretty simple. Elite defense, have

657
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Speaker 3: a dominant pass rush, which they have a ton of them,

658
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: Sauce takes away half the field, and then offensively lead

659
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Speaker 3: the league in rushing or be a top two or

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Speaker 3: three team, and then let Aaron have a little magic

661
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Speaker 3: in there make some big plays. But it's not gonna

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Speaker 3: be the McCarthy or even the MVP version of Aaron

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Speaker 3: where they just put it all on his back, and

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Speaker 3: it'd be much more of a team effort. Mainly starting

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Speaker 3: on defense, where it's like, you're not gonna score many

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Speaker 3: points on us.

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Speaker 1: And I think that pass rush.

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Speaker 3: They've drafted several guys the last couple of years high

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Speaker 3: obviously Quinn Williams that was a home run from several

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Speaker 3: years ago. It could be overwhelming, and just the random

671
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Speaker 3: guys they have coming, it's gonna be a lot like

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Speaker 3: some of these forty nine er teams over the years,

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Speaker 3: and then you just got to hammer the run game

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Speaker 3: and we'll see. I mean there's gonna be a microscope

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Speaker 3: on Nate Hackett, right. I mean, he's gonna be talked

676
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Speaker 3: about a lot every play that he calls him and

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Speaker 3: Aaron does Aaron override him? Because Aaron, you know, likes

678
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Speaker 3: being in the shotgun of four or five wy that's

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Speaker 3: where he's most comfortable and historically he's had a lot

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Speaker 3: of success. But I think for this team, with the

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Speaker 3: way they're built, with their questions and offensive line, get

682
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Speaker 3: him under center like Lafleur did right when he got there,

683
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Speaker 3: and hammer the run and can the one question with Buffalo, right,

684
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 3: which is weird because there's this cold weather, blue collar city.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't really been a tough team. They've really been

686
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Speaker 3: more of like a run and gun score a lot

687
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Speaker 3: of points squad, right, and that hasn't translated for him,

688
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Speaker 3: you know, in the playoffs, so it doesn't get much better, right,

689
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Speaker 3: nine to eleven. It's gonna be a pretty powerful night.

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Speaker 3: I think Aaron Rodgers MetLife the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be cool, all right week one. As of

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night will be in the books. John and I

693
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Speaker 2: will do this every Sunday night. We'll chop it up

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Speaker 2: for about thirty minutes. On Sunday nights, I'll do my

695
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Speaker 2: fifteen minute opening rant. We'll put that out early on

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Speaker 2: YouTube under the volume, and then John and I will

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Speaker 2: come in and usually we'll let the Sunday night game

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Speaker 2: play to completion. But the Giants Cowboys was so awful

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Speaker 2: at the end of the third we decided to sound.

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Speaker 1: Colin, we gotta do thirty seconds. Though.

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Speaker 3: On Dion Sun, who somehow after week one feels like

702
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Speaker 3: he impressed me more in week two, he is Shadoor

703
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: is beyond, He's unreal. He really is a pretty special team.

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Speaker 3: He layered a couple throws in that game, and I

705
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Speaker 3: tweeted this out. One of the things that knocks out

706
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks from college to the pro it's not big arm.

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Speaker 3: Even every guy misses some throws. It's that layer throw,

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Speaker 3: the intermediate throw over a defender, which takes a lot

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Speaker 3: of touch. We know he has all the physical attributes

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Speaker 3: to throw bombs and throw lasers. He can layer it.

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00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: Caleb can layer all the great prospects, Trevor Lawrence, He's

712
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Speaker 3: got that. I thought we two was a pretty wold

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Speaker 3: game for Shadoor Sanders against a much better defense in Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: And Nebraska was getting a great pass rush early, like

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Speaker 2: just you know again it was Cowboys Giants like overwhelming. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know Colorado's O line. If he comes out, I

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Speaker 2: would say it's Caleb Schadeur Sanders and Drake May and

718
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Speaker 2: that's that's about as strong as a top three. And

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Speaker 2: listen to the next three are probably Pennix, Riley Leonard,

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Speaker 2: the kid out of Duke, maybe bon Nicks. I didn't

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Speaker 2: you know, it's funny bon Nicks at Auburn didn't do

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Speaker 2: a thing for me. And then he goes to Oregon

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Speaker 2: and it looks like he's his arms stronger, he moves

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Speaker 2: a little better.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, you gotta can't you can't judge a

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Speaker 2: kid on a freshman year at college.

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Speaker 3: And NFL community is much higher on him at Oregon,

729
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Speaker 3: and I think he's matured as a human. I think

730
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Speaker 3: people are much more bullish on the players.

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Speaker 2: How about I'll be honest. Quinn Ewers could not hit

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Speaker 2: a deep throw his entire career. Holy shit, he against Alabama.

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Speaker 2: I thought like I had to just say, Okay, it's

734
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Speaker 2: a new it's a new kid. Like last year. He couldn't.

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Speaker 2: Even early in that game, he missed on two deep throws.

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Speaker 2: That's been the knock on him. He can't hit the

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Speaker 2: deep throw. He hit four against Alabama. I thought quinn

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Speaker 2: Ewers took his stock from falling to rising.

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Speaker 3: You're more di in to the rivals dot com and

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Speaker 3: maybe even the transfer portal, But you don't need to

741
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Speaker 3: know rivals to just watch that game and go. Texas

742
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Speaker 3: has as much, if not more talent. You have an

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Speaker 3: AWF quarterback than Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's be honest about this. Is that you know

745
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Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien. Nick has run through offensive coordinators and he

746
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Speaker 2: kept hitting. He just kept kiffing Sort and Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: But Bill's not. Bill's not probably the great recruiter. Bill

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Speaker 2: was there to clean it up and get back to

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Speaker 2: the pros. So he may not even have been an

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Speaker 2: active recruiter, right, Like, no chance.

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Speaker 1: I feel like.

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Speaker 2: Alabama, I feel like they miss Sark's creativity, like they

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Speaker 2: just there wasn't a lot. I mean, they literally had

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Speaker 2: a nineteen eighty eight passing game. I think they're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't think you can. I don't think

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Speaker 2: you can win at the highest level in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three and be just an athlete that can't throw a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Are bad at quarterback. I don't care what your roster is.

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Speaker 2: I watched Clemson and Duke. How many players does Duke

760
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Speaker 2: have that Clemson recruits and the woodshed five max? But

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Speaker 2: one team had a great quarterback and it's a difference.

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Speaker 3: I had an NBA guy text me yesterday if NIL

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Speaker 3: leveled the playing field in.

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Speaker 1: College and I said a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's the combination of the ability to

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Speaker 3: transfer to the NIL, which I think has directly hurt.

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Speaker 3: It just lessened the power of Ohio State Alabama because

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Speaker 3: now even the other five or six teams that can

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Speaker 3: easily be on their level that have more access to

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Speaker 3: the money, USC Texas, Oregon. I don't really know what's

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Speaker 3: going on in Miami. They've always been up into but

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Speaker 3: they just kicked text A and m's ass. I just

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Speaker 3: think they get a guy in the Port Florida state

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Speaker 3: cutting big checks and gets you to play, and I

775
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Speaker 3: can promise you the NFL well, those guys might not

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Speaker 3: have left the program.

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Speaker 1: Before, especially just sit out.

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Speaker 3: So it's college football's fun right now.

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Speaker 1: It's that there are a lot of teams in the mix.

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Speaker 2: That's really fun, all right, Buddy John Middlecough Three and

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Speaker 2: Out is the podcast former NFL scout.

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Speaker 3: Good seeing you, see you Colin, Have a good night.

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Speaker 2: The volume