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Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Chris Rna.

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Speaker 2: Hazel and this is the Keeping Positive, Sweetish Show. Purpose

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Speaker 2: has a way of asking more from us than we

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Speaker 2: can ever expect. Today's conversation is about the courage to

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Speaker 2: keep saying yes even when the assignment gets heavy. We

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Speaker 2: are sitting with Jasmine at Crow Houston. Today's guest has

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Speaker 2: reimagined what it looks like to solve one of our

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Speaker 2: country's biggest challenges. Jas And Crow Houston is the founder

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Speaker 2: and CEO of Gooder and innovative company that's recovered millions

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Speaker 2: of pounds of surplus food, built free grocery markets and

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Speaker 2: underserved communities, and help make food and security, sustainability, and

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Speaker 2: dignity part of the same conversation. She has been recognized

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Speaker 2: by Forbes and The New York Times, and now she

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Speaker 2: is sharing her journey in her very first book, Feeding

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Speaker 2: Hope Kids Feeling Please give a very warm welcome to

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Speaker 2: Jazzmine crow Houston.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing so, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful, Thank you so much. I want to start off

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Speaker 2: by saying congratulations. You have a new book, Feeding Hope.

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Speaker 2: How to build a mission driven enterprise to create change?

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Speaker 2: You've already done so much to create change, and now

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Speaker 2: you're an author.

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Speaker 1: This is so exciting. And you just.

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Speaker 2: Said that today or yesterday was the first time you

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Speaker 3: Like literally before I came here, I was like your producers, like,

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Speaker 3: can you bring a copy of the book? I said,

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Speaker 3: they just arrived this week and so I opened it

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Speaker 3: and yes, you're holding the first copy I ever touched.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I'm a reader, so I love the texture of the

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Speaker 2: cover already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the pages feel good. Yeah, I'm excited to.

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Speaker 3: Do book reader like I haven't got into like audible

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Speaker 3: ye kindles.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, unless I'm in a hurry, like I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: I like to touch the pages. I want to smell.

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Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of when I was a kid,

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Speaker 2: and I'll be like Beverly Clear or the Babysitters Books Club.

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Speaker 4: It's something about the pages Valley High.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, But before we dive in, because I do want

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Speaker 2: to talk more about your book, let's play a quick game.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: The game is called keep It or Give It.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, So I'm gonna throw out a few words,

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Speaker 2: and you tell me if you're keeping them or you're

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you mine after this. The first one is

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, my group chats have been very Yes,

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Speaker 1: I love that I have one group chat that I loved.

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Speaker 1: All the other ones I mute.

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Speaker 4: Really yeah, crazy, I can imagine.

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Speaker 3: but the small ones.

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Speaker 3: When I do get to the gym at five thirty,

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Speaker 3: So I think you have to keep fear, but you

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Speaker 2: So I have to do my amazing spray and just

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Speaker 3: I'm like, it's good for you if your parents. I

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Speaker 2: Jess to tell you right now, I was blown away

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Speaker 2: by your journey. Shelley sings your praises. She's like, you

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Speaker 1: Praises, and I was excited to get to sit down

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Speaker 4: It's been a journey ten years.

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Speaker 1: This is a day.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's nothing happens overnight.

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Speaker 1: No, it does not.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the journey because a lot of people

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Speaker 2: they've heard gooder, they don't know the person behind it.

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Speaker 3: So I moved to Atlanta in twenty thirteen. My sister

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Speaker 3: was going to Spelman. When I graduated college, I went

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Speaker 3: I always wild shame them for this story. They don't

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Speaker 3: And it was if you're kind of new to Atlanta now,

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Speaker 3: So it started there. And I feel like that's why

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Speaker 3: I met Shelley. Just so many people through those that

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Speaker 1: That is incredible and fascinating.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's crazy to think about it. And I was

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Speaker 3: thirteen years ago, like, and I did that for four

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Speaker 3: or five years before I ever even started Gooder. So

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Speaker 3: I was doing that every weekend for years. Wow, for

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Speaker 3: years traveling. I took one to Essence Fest one year.

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Speaker 1: It was sad. That is awesome. That is amazing. Have

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Speaker 3: It is I used to be into being Mary Jane.

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Speaker 1: Building is because we see what you've built.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I think in twenty twenty three. It's

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Speaker 3: And at this point in my business and I've spent millions, millions,

440
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Speaker 3: I'm like employing people, hiring lawyers, just like all the things,

441
00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,199
Speaker 3: all the things, and you start to think, like was

442
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 3: that a waste to tell?

443
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

444
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,880
Speaker 4: Waste the time and money, man? And if I had that.

445
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,400
Speaker 3: Back now, like if I had the money I spent

446
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,719
Speaker 3: on this trip or this perk or this this and this,

447
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 3: like you know, in hard times, you're like, did I

448
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,360
Speaker 3: make the right decisions then?

449
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,720
Speaker 2: But all you can ever do is keep going and

450
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 2: continue to be Yeah, and be true to who you are. Yes,

451
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 2: you know that it is your heart posture and being

452
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 2: kind and wanting to be giving is who you naturally are.

453
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 2: I think sometimes when things like that happen, where it

454
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,400
Speaker 2: doesn't work out or you feel taken me for granted,

455
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,159
Speaker 2: you start to question, like, yeah, am I doing the

456
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:33,439
Speaker 2: right thing?

457
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Speaker 1: I should just keep the main thing.

458
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 2: The main thing, because like you look when you look back,

459
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,880
Speaker 2: and like I spent all this money and they didn't

460
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Speaker 2: even appreciate it.

461
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,639
Speaker 4: I didn't appreciate it.

462
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Speaker 3: And I think the other thing is like a little

463
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,880
Speaker 3: imposture syndrome, not so much like when you've been doing

464
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 3: it for ten years and having this company. I thought

465
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Speaker 3: about it the other day. I've I've done so much.

466
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Speaker 3: I mean, I've spoken like the president of Egypt flew

467
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,160
Speaker 3: me out, I spoke at like a m Yes, I've

468
00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,440
Speaker 3: been to Egypt, I've been to can Lions, and I've

469
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 3: done commercials, I've done ted talks, I've done I mean

470
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 3: just so much that I've done with this company, which

471
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 3: is like sometimes you have to sit back and think

472
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 3: about it, like a lot has happened good, a lot

473
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Speaker 3: of bad, a lot of bad too. I remember one

474
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Speaker 3: time I had the Atlanta Public School District. This is

475
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 3: my friends know this over. This is a funny one

476
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 3: Atlanta Public School District had let good or have a

477
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,679
Speaker 3: school to take over during the pandemic when we were

478
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Speaker 3: feeding families and I got a call one morning, like

479
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 3: four am, and it was the police and they were

480
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 3: like listen, like we're here. Some of your employees are

481
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 3: in here, and they're like they're living in the school.

482
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 3: Like it was just so crazy. I mean, people are

483
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 3: calling me like did you know so and so is

484
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Speaker 3: living in the school.

485
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Speaker 2: I'm like no, like just like the amount of yes

486
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 2: and then like yes, like y'all about to ruin.

487
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 4: Everything, like the whole relationship with the school. I mean

488
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 4: just so many things. So you have to like apologize.

489
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 3: And you know the cop that I was on the

490
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 3: phone with me at four o'clock in the morning, I'm

491
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 3: pregnant when my first child at the time. He was like,

492
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 3: but I've been I see y'all on the news, and

493
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 3: i know what y'all are doing. You know, I'm just

494
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 3: tell them to get out of here and it's not

495
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 3: going to be an issue. But like, just you know,

496
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 3: I remember one time one of my drivers, my truck

497
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 3: driver went through like a low median and tore the

498
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 3: whole box truck off. Forty thousand dollars there. Yes, insurance

499
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 3: company was like they want it covered. They don't cover negligence.

500
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 3: That's literally what they said. They're like it had it

501
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 3: says like a median. There's a lower thing he drove through.

502
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 3: I mean the picture was I mean, you've never seen

503
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 3: it was like a box truck. The scale of the

504
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 3: box truck, the whole covering was gone, like just so

505
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 3: many things, like forty thousand can you imagine that, Like

506
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 3: just like just the money, the bills, It has been crazy,

507
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: three hundred thousand dollars lawyer bills like you just a

508
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 3: lot of yeah, they don't see that. So lots of good,

509
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 3: lots of bad kind of like the ebbs and the flows,

510
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 3: but the biggest pieces like every day we're in business,

511
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 3: people are eating like yeah, so I mean like and

512
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 3: so it always is a scary port for me because

513
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 3: what do I do if I don't do this, Like

514
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 3: we can't if we shut down. Like there's so many people, seniors,

515
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 3: people who eat every single day. Like we opened a

516
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 3: grocery store and a deli on Edgewood near the King Center,

517
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 3: and I was in it the other day and I

518
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: heard a man say, like, I appreciate y'all being here,

519
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 3: like thank you for being here, like a senior because

520
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 3: he could get a five dollars meal at our grocery

521
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 3: store every day, like you can't do that at any

522
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 3: other grocery store, and so.

523
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Speaker 4: Nothing.

524
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: Nothing, So it's like we have to be alive, but

525
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: it's hard. It's hard to keep it going.

526
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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of hard, when did you realize that you

527
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 2: could do hard things?

528
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Speaker 1: What was the moment we were like, Okay, I can

529
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: do this.

530
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

531
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Speaker 3: I think during the pandemic. I think twenty twenty was

532
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,239
Speaker 3: very telling. You know, on one day my business was

533
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 3: we were working heavily on getting the excess food from

534
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 3: businesses and getting it out to nonprofits. And the day

535
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 3: that we went in quarantine, all everybody like stop service,

536
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 3: like so literally everybody, cause there's like, hey, we're going home,

537
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: We're going to cut it off. So I'm knowing that

538
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: we're not going to get paid like we didn't. We

539
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 3: didn't get a PPP loan like all of that stuff.

540
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 3: We were too small of a company at the time.

541
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 3: But within a matter of a week, we had set

542
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 3: up this whole fulfillment center at a school, hired fifty employees,

543
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 3: started getting donations from like Quality Control, music Spank, Sarah

544
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 3: Blakeley gave us one hundred thousand dollars. United Way gave

545
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: us money to feed families. And we did it in

546
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: like a week. Like I was waking up at this

547
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: is when I was an early morning girl, waking up

548
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 3: at five am going to Walmart buying like twenty baskets

549
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: of groceries, going to this school, putting them in boxes,

550
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 3: having all these employees come and deliver them to the

551
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: doors of people with masks on, and like you know,

552
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 3: all this like we had to get I think we

553
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 3: had to print out these things that we were like

554
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 3: essential workers to keeping our dashboards to be out.

555
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 4: Like that's how serious it was. And that was hard.

556
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: I mean, but we were feeding thousands and thousands of

557
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 3: people and it was like and we just did it

558
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: within a matter of weeks. It was just like almost

559
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 3: like panic. We got to think it was six years ago.

560
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 3: It seemed so long ago when that happened. Yeah, when

561
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: that happened, we were like, what's happening here?

562
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 4: Like people just yeah. That was a friend of mine.

563
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 3: When I went to week ago, she said to me,

564
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 3: she's like, you remember in New York, we used to

565
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 3: have the refrigerated trucks with all the bodies. I was like, what,

566
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: I didn't even know in New York, like during the pandemic.

567
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: There was no there was no I remember that.

568
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 3: She was like, they had refrigerated trucks. You would see

569
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: them going up and like this with bodies inside. I

570
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: can't even believe.

571
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 4: I didn't know that yet.

572
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: Because the families couldn't come.

573
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, no one could climban it was it was crazy. Yeah,

574
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 4: it was crazy.

575
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 3: So that's when I knew. Like when I did that,

576
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, yeah, I could do.

577
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Speaker 1: It all Bill. Yeah, I feel I was built for it.

578
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: My goodness, I didn't realize it has been six years.

579
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah a little, I mean, and this was like six

580
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: years around. This time was like the thick of it

581
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: because it was in March. It was March eighth, twenty twenty.

582
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: I remember the day. I was like, and I remember.

583
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: Us thinking it was gonna be two weeks.

584
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Speaker 3: Like very like, oh, you know, fourteen days, let's just

585
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 3: buckle down and do this. And it was at least

586
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Speaker 3: almost two years before we really started getting out again.

587
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Speaker 1: Literally, yeah, I think Essence.

588
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 4: Came back in twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three,

589
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 4: so it.

590
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: Was like a couple of years.

591
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we all had it.

592
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: You know, you had COVID a couple of days like

593
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: this is a lie. And my godmother's husband died during COVID.

594
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: It was yes, because you know they used to send

595
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 3: you home from the emergency room and he went with

596
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 3: like saying something was wrong with his head, and then

597
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 3: they sent him home and he died of an aneurysm.

598
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: So it's just like yeah, like he so so much.

599
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 3: I mean, just like it was tough. It was a

600
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: real tough tough thing. Not gonna wait, we don't have

601
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 3: We listened to science and you know, do all the things,

602
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: but that was a hard time to build a business during,

603
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 3: like one of the hardest times when also when people

604
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 3: were out of work everybody. Yeah, I've had flight attendants

605
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: nurses that were like working for plastic surgeons, so you

606
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 3: know all the elective surgeries and stuff were canceled who

607
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 3: were like they'll stop me. Like when I was a

608
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: flight attendant, I was struggling and I heard about your

609
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 3: food drive and I remember going and being like, I

610
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: got fish and I'll never forget like the fact that

611
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: they got good food when they were in their darkest time,

612
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: just like people have stopped me till this day.

613
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 4: That's why love Atlanta.

614
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'll be out looking crazy and I'd be like,

615
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: I thought that was you was cause I look crazy.

616
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: Love On the day to day.

617
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: How does it feel when people come up to you

618
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 2: and let you know the impact that you're making.

619
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: I never forget it, you know. I still remember getting

620
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: an email in September of twenty twenty one from a

621
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: lady named Bertha, who I assume was a senior, and

622
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: she was like, thank you for giving me meat that

623
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: wasn't brown and I'll never forget that like that, and

624
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: that's why I was like, that's what we do. What

625
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 3: we do for yeah, And I remember sending that to

626
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: the team and I was like, I want you to

627
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: read this like this is look at this like people

628
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: are so used to getting seconds.

629
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: The clearance sticker meats.

630
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: The stuff that's you know, used by today or freeze,

631
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: like that's the name of the game and that's the

632
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 3: stuff Like if we don't sell something at our store today,

633
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: we and it says user freeze by tomorrow. We take

634
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 3: it out, We freeze it, put it out and give

635
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 3: it away for free, like you know, like it's just

636
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: and I know it's good, Like we aren't making someone

637
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 3: like feel less than but we still have hundreds of

638
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: people that come through our doors to shop for free

639
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: and they don't even have to shop for that, you know.

640
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: I'm still giving that away on top of whatever we give,

641
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: you know. So that makes me feel really good because

642
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: that's what we exist for. And what makes me upset

643
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 3: about it is it's like that is so hard to

644
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 3: fight for. Yes, it's so hard, like you know, to

645
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: to just fight for people to have good food. Like

646
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: it's like, oh you don't there's no funding for it,

647
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 3: there's no people don't see the value in feeding people

648
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: good food.

649
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: No, you're absolutely right.

650
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a scary way to think, you know, for sure.

651
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: Honestly it's tough.

652
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 2: Wow, what you have done takes a lot of courage.

653
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: So I want to know who was your role model

654
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: that instilled courage in you? Or has life been the

655
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: best teacher in that space?

656
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean definitely gonna have to say my dad,

657
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: Like when I was building the company, I was struggling.

658
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: You know, my dad always talks about like every time

659
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: he would get paid, he would send me three hundred

660
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: dollars towards my rent, Like you know, just like all

661
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 3: of those things. Just like someone to still believe he

662
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: comes now. He like will come and work in the

663
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 3: grocery store, and he'll come here, Like Jasmine, Chubby is

664
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: someone I want you to take a picture with.

665
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: It's just like a random person. Like it's just like

666
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: you know whoever it is.

667
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 3: But it's just like being having someone that's just proud

668
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 3: of you, no matter if you fail or not, like

669
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 3: you know, So I think definitely my dad, But my parents.

670
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 3: My parents were hard workers, you know, and I grew

671
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 3: up my parents were really poor until they got to

672
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 3: like their thirty mid thirties.

673
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: You know.

674
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 3: They were high school sweethearts. They've been together since fourteen fifteen.

675
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 3: They had me in nineteen and twenty, and I remember

676
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 3: my mom telling me like her dream was like to

677
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: live in a double wide trailer. So like I remember

678
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: like just growing up and just not having a ton

679
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: you know, Like in hindsight, I'm like, oh wow, Like

680
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: we were struggling. And then I watched my mom go

681
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: to school at University of Phoenix, part time, working full time,

682
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: going to school at night, going back and getting her masters,

683
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: like literally like she retired as the CEO of a hospital,

684
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: and I watched her like start from you know, not

685
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: like literally drop out of college because they got pregnant

686
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: with me and follow my dad in the Air Force.

687
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 3: And so just like seeing how hard they work and

688
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: still struggled, Like I just I am always baffled by that,

689
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: and so I have a real, I guess affinity to

690
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: making sure that people who are doing their best have

691
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: the resources that they need because I watched people around

692
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: me struggling, and I still watch that today. I know

693
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: a lot of people who I'm like, God, they're always working,

694
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: but they still are struggling because everything keeps going, the

695
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: needle keeps moving, like you know, you get here and

696
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: now the goal post is here, the rain has went up,

697
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: or the you know, the power bill of six hundred

698
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 3: because now it's hot, and I mean you just can't

699
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: keep your breath and you're never you're never not running,

700
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: and so like I want to make sure that those

701
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: people are good.

702
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that.

703
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: Did you always we talked about vision, Did you always

704
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: know that you were going to do something so extraordinary?

705
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: Like what was your initial vision for yourself?

706
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: I mean I wanted to be a teacher.

707
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: So I had originally went to North Carolina Central for teaching,

708
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: and I did the summer before I went. I had

709
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: like my own little summer camp and it was like

710
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: a scholarship. I think you worked this Summerskinghampion. You got

711
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: like a three thousand dollars scholarship.

712
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 4: And it was great.

713
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: I mean I had I had like the radio come

714
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: out from my camp. I had a party, I got

715
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: pizza consort. I was like, I was gonna be one

716
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: of those teachers. And then I really loved sports, and

717
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: so I wanted to do broadcast journalism, so I switched

718
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: to communications, I mean intern with Radio one. I mean

719
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: I did all the things, started doing PR. So I

720
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: don't think I knew I wanted to be like extraordinary.

721
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 3: I felt like I wanted to help other people be extraordinary,

722
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 3: especially in those early like PR days. But I did

723
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: know I wanted to help people, and that has been

724
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: something that's been probably very early on.

725
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: People that have known me.

726
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: For a long time would say yeah, she was helping

727
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 3: people or she was doing stuff. I mean, so someone

728
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: described me the other day. I started Future the Rapper

729
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: Futures Foundation years ago here in Atlanta, and someone Bobby,

730
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 3: who works with him, came into my store.

731
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 4: Hey Bobby a great, great.

732
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: Guy, and he was like yeah, yes, yes, Bobby is

733
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: so great. He's like, yeah, you know she did a

734
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: nonprofit hick like she didn't have started all to nonprofit,

735
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: like you know what, that's kind of how.

736
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: They think about it. I'm like nonprofit lamb choped God.

737
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: You know, I got a lot of titles, but a

738
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: lot of people know me from like nonprofits, feeding people,

739
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: just doing that. So and honestly, I love that you

740
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: said extraordinary because I probably what I do now is extraordinary,

741
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: but I probably would never use that as an adjective

742
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: to describe it. So I should rethink, you know, yeah, yes,

743
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: I would just be like I feed people and like,

744
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: you know, give people. I don't think I would describe

745
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: extraordinary at all.

746
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: Extraordinary, Yes, yes, exactly exactly. Do you think that God

747
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: was building the courage before you really understood your assignment?

748
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, Like I remember I used to practice

749
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: like pitching my business so much, like so so much,

750
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: and I would it's probably like you know this right,

751
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: like remember memorizing the lines, and I would I would

752
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: get to like the last minute and get something wrong

753
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: and then like make myself start over again. So when

754
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 3: I would go into pitch competitions, which is how I

755
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: funded Gooder for like the first year, I think I

756
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: won maybe two hundred thousand dollars in prize money. I

757
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: was just like anywhere there's a pitch competition, like let me,

758
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: let me try and win this money. Because I didn't

759
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: have anything to start it. But I just felt like

760
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: God just had his hands on my life cause I

761
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: would just go in and I would just win, you know,

762
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 3: like it was just so And I always knew like

763
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: if anyone had practiced more than me, than they were crazy,

764
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: because I thought I was crazy. I was like practicing

765
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: day and night, having everybody listened to it. Everyone just

766
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: like pitch and pitch and pitching. But I do know

767
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: just in a lot of moments, like to be here

768
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: ten years, God's got to have a big part in it. Yeah,

769
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: because most black owned women businesses starting with a solo

770
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: founder that don't make it three years, don't make it five,

771
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: don't make it seven. So like I keep and I

772
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: keep on telling myself, I got him see January twenty

773
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: twenty seven.

774
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: I got to see it.

775
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: I don't care if I'm the last employees and it

776
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: I will see January and we will officially have been

777
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: ten I've been working on it for ten years. But

778
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: if I can make it to January twenties twenty seven,

779
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: it will have been a real business for twenty Yes,

780
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: for ten years.

781
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 4: Which is crazy.

782
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like a business that like has employed like

783
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: a real business, like a real business, like paid taxes

784
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: and all the things come on, all.

785
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: The things that's real.

786
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: Yes, employed a lot of it, I mean yes, and

787
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: fed me like I think that's the biggest piece too.

788
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 3: Like I've employed myself for a decade, wow, which is

789
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 3: you know. And through that decade, through this journey, I've

790
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: had kids, I've gotten married. I was single, like sleeping

791
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: in my friend's apartment like broom like I was, you know,

792
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: I started from nothing, and so it's definitely been a

793
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: God purpose driven life.

794
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

795
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: I love that talk about God purpose driven life. I

796
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: want to know, when did you know that Gooder was

797
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: an assignment on your life? That this is like something

798
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: that God had placed on you. It is your responsibility.

799
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: I would say, the very first day that I ever

800
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: pitched it, you know, like it was like I remember

801
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: I got this little T shirt made, it was like stretched,

802
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 3: you know, the logo wasn't centered, so Geter was like

803
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: all the way across here.

804
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: It was like but you know, I was so proud

805
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 4: and I still have.

806
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: This yes, and I was just like, you know, like

807
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: this is what I'm going to do. And and by

808
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 3: that time, so many people had told me it didn't

809
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: makes sense, like you know, you want to do that,

810
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: no one's ever going to pay for that, and you

811
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: know all of that.

812
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: Like so I think I was.

813
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: Like, this is if I'm not meant to do this,

814
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: why do I have the idea? Why do I have

815
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 3: the why do I have the name? Why do I

816
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 3: know that? You know, it's a problem, Like I think

817
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: just the day one, like day one, really thinking like

818
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: and again my vision at the time was so small

819
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: in hindsight, like a million meals. We probably did that

820
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: probably the first month or so during the pandemic alone.

821
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, for sure, it's crazy to think about

822
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: everyone used so sayd we had a Gooder box. Like

823
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 3: we used to give people like a box of food

824
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: that would get them through.

825
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 4: Like ten days. Like it was so much food, and.

826
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: People were just blown away it was good, you know,

827
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: and they would tell it. I mean, we'd have stickers

828
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: on the box like low sugar, diabetic, no pork. So

829
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: every box was literally like tailored to what those families

830
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: were eating. And so it's yeah, that was so.

831
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: Thought too, Like a lot of thought put into because,

832
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: like you say, a lot of times when you have

833
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: the food banks, so just putting food in there.

834
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

835
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I love that you're telling it because there's

836
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 2: a lot of things that we don't eat. Our bodies

837
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: can't take, you know, for whether it's our blood type

838
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: or allergies.

839
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: And different things. So I love that you took the

840
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: time to do that. That's amazing. You kind of started

841
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: this before it was a thing.

842
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: You know, what did it feel like carrying something that

843
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: a lot of people weren't carrying yet?

844
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how that feel.

845
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: I think you know a lot of times you felt

846
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: like to do I make sense to anybody? Like you know,

847
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: cause I mean, and that's how I feel like every

848
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: entrepreneur starts. It's a dream like you know, first you

849
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: made your mom and your dad and your auntie might

850
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: be your first customer, you know.

851
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 4: I couldn't. I didn't have that here, Like I wasn't

852
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: selling a product.

853
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 3: I was selling like a service and like a service

854
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: to businesses, right, So at first I was like maybe

855
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: I am really crazy, like maybe this doesn't make sense.

856
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: And I remember my dad used to send me so

857
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: many jobs, Like after the first like year I was

858
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: pitching trying to fundraise, nothing was coming from it, and

859
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: my dad was like sending me ing jobs and he

860
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: was like you got to keep your lights on, you know.

861
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 3: And I was like, God, I'm gonna have to get

862
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 3: a job, you know. So I felt like a little

863
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: bit like maybe out of place, especially in those early days,

864
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 3: like going and talking to investors. I remember I told

865
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: someone I was like an HPC or alumna, and he

866
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: was like, where's that at, Like, you know, like a

867
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 3: lot of times you're just talking to people that just

868
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: don't understand hunger, never have been hungry, don't understand the

869
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 3: walk that you're in. So I definitely felt like out

870
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: of place a lot of times. But then there would

871
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: be moments where it would be very reaffirming like some

872
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: one of my investors, like I grew up poor, I

873
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: grew up hungry, Like I want to invest in you?

874
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: What do I need to do?

875
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: So like those moments would happen too, but I felt

876
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: very much like maybe I'm crazy. I'm pretty I would say,

877
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 3: like probably, Like how you know even like think of

878
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: like Tyner Perry, so many entrepreneurs, like at first, it's

879
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: just you and you're just saying this is what this

880
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: is the vision, and a lot of people don't believe

881
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: in it, and then they kicked themselves later, right, and

882
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 3: so you have to believe in it, and that's like

883
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: the most important, Like, you know, others didn't. A lot

884
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: of others didn't. I had definitely friends and family that

885
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 3: I think my dad, I won't say he didn't believe

886
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: in me when he was sending me jobs, but he

887
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: was like, you got to still be it if it

888
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: doesn't work. You gotta still be able to eat, you know,

889
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: feed yourself and do all the things. But you will

890
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: ultimately be the only person that will believe and has

891
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 3: to continue to reaffirm yourself when other people are telling

892
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: you you're crazy, it's not going to work. You should

893
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: shut it down, wind down, like you know, this is

894
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: I can't tell you. My accountant is like I think

895
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: some I remember last year she was like, I feel

896
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: like we should shut the company down, like let's just

897
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: pay off, like just like very much, just hard conversations

898
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 3: and I'm like no, like something's going to happen, and

899
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: so many big things would happen, like we'd get big donations,

900
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: we'd get just stuff would just happen that it's like

901
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: that's nothing, but God, like what do.

902
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you do?

903
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 4: And he'll do that?

904
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: I mean they had things have happened, and I've had

905
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: moments look at my phone, look who email looking like

906
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: this is it happens.

907
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: There's a lot of stuff, and it.

908
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: Only happens if you don't quit, you know, because there

909
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: if I had quit, like when my accountant told me that,

910
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 3: I would have got that email and someone wants to

911
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 3: give me a large donation and the company's closed, I

912
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: don't even need to donate.

913
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 4: Like you know, what do you do then?

914
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 3: Like you know, so it's like you have to figure

915
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: it out, even if it's just like.

916
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: Hard, it is, it is hard, and with you being

917
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: a pioneer in this space, do you ever get permission

918
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: to be tired because I hear doing it alone, Like yeah, yeah,

919
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: like time say, Okay, I'm actually tired right now, but

920
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 2: you're also a mom.

921
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 4: Yeah you're doing it all like everything, you really don't.

922
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: I feel like it's I mean, it's been really hard

923
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: for me what I've been very comfortable realizing lately, and

924
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: this is just you know, twenty twenty six realization, Jasmine.

925
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 3: On no given day will I be one hundred percent

926
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: my best self for everybody and everything in my life.

927
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: Like some days my kids aren't gonna get the best Jazmine.

928
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: Some days my friends ain't gonna get it. My business

929
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: are my husband like some dady, it's just gonna be

930
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: like I'm not gonna be one hundred percent perfect every day,

931
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: but I just need to show up every day and

932
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: you know, get through the day and try and like

933
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: be better. But I think at one point you try

934
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 3: so hard to like do everything right and like miss everything,

935
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: you know. I remember one time my daughter was telling

936
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: my husband like, yeah, I was the last person picked up,

937
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 3: like you know, like just like really like I'm saying,

938
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, Journey said she was the last one

939
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: picked up at day care, like you know, like listen,

940
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: I was late, like you know, it's Atlanta.

941
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 4: Traffic, trying to make it happen.

942
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: She got picked up.

943
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: You know, she got picked up at six thirty. I

944
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: was there at six thirty one, you.

945
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: Know, like I got there, but like she might have

946
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: been the last one.

947
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: But you know, I wasn't one hundred percent for her

948
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: that day. You know, I wasn't early. But she got

949
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: picked up and she had dinner, you know, like and

950
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 3: we went through the next day. There was a time

951
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: when I'd be like, oh, man, like you know what

952
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I got to be a better mom. I

953
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: need to show up more. Like you know, you're telling yourself.

954
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: The things that we tell ourselves, we have to really watch.

955
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: And I think that's just real recent realization for me

956
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: is like listening, Jasmine, you're telling yourself a lot of

957
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: things that are negative or you're telling yourself you know,

958
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: I got to keep it positive.

959
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: So I need to be a little bit more positive.

960
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 3: That's what I need to start telling myself in the car,

961
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: like you keep it positive because I am like, Okay,

962
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: maybe I need to shut it down. Maybe it's not

963
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: gonna work. Why are these you know, and it's like

964
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna have the negative thoughts too, but you have

965
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: to redirect and that's and sometimes I don't do that,

966
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: so I need to do better.

967
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: I'm happy for you that you're working on that, you know,

968
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: because I know, just as women period, we carry a

969
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: lot and we are harder on ourselves, yes.

970
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: Than anybody else. Yeah, we are, yeah.

971
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: And people are harder on us, you know what I mean.

972
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 3: This is like one of those things that the fish

973
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 3: rides from the head, like it's coming from somewhere. So

974
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: like we have a lot to carry. So it's like

975
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: if everyone's hard on you.

976
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: You're hard on yourself.

977
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: Like when do you get a chance to kind of

978
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: rest from that? So that's it's a hard thing to do.

979
00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 4: And I'm still.

980
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: Learning, Yeah, very much. No, I feel you on that.

981
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: I want to ask you.

982
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: We're almost at ten years January January will make ten years.

983
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: What is something that year one? Jazzmine believes that year ten.

984
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: Jazzmine does not believe anymore.

985
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 3: That you know, everybody's on my side, like we're all

986
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: like a family, and you know, I don't believe that anymore. Like,

987
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 3: you know, I really have to watch for the snakes

988
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: in the grass. And I have to realize that I've

989
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: let a lot of people unlocked doors off of my keys,

990
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 3: you know, off of my intellectual property. And you can't

991
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: tell everybody your ideas. Yeah, you can't tell everybody.

992
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 4: Your next move. You can't.

993
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: You know, I don't make a lot of announcements. Now

994
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: I think you're ten ten years ago. I'm speaking here,

995
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: I'm doing this. This great thing just happened, like you know. Now,

996
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: it's like, even though I'm saying a lot, I'm not

997
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 3: saying a lot, come on, because you know, I've learned

998
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: and I've had a lot of let you know, I've

999
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: had a lot of lessons, so you know, that is

1000
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 3: a big thing.

1001
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 4: I think.

1002
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: I hired friends, I hired family. I mean I did

1003
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: a lot of that. And now those would be things

1004
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: I would say I shouldn't have hired friends, Like you know,

1005
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 3: I hired like my first business development person was like

1006
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: a friend.

1007
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 4: They didn't know how to develop business.

1008
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: And it's like other employees were like saying, like yo,

1009
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: like you got to get some better people around you.

1010
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 3: But I was like, oh, this is my friend, like

1011
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: you know, like to go together like that, you know,

1012
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 3: and you can't do that. You got to you got

1013
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 3: to make everybody go through the application in the interview process,

1014
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 3: like you know. And I didn't do that a lot.

1015
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 3: And that's like something that you have to. Everybody's just

1016
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: not your friend, and that really sucks to say. When

1017
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: you're like a people pleaser, you love people and you're

1018
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 3: in a business of service.

1019
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: You just got to watch. You gotta watch.

1020
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: So your ting, Jasmine is like guards up a little bit,

1021
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: you know, because I think you've been through the battle.

1022
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: And so now it's like when I go into year ten,

1023
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: so I got to win the war, like you know,

1024
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: I've been through it. So it's like now it's like

1025
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: what do I want to do with this business? How

1026
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: big do I want to see it go? How do

1027
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: I what do I need to do to make those

1028
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: things happen? That's so true to be around me in

1029
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: this phase too, that too, and who doesn't need to

1030
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: be around me?

1031
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of that.

1032
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: When it comes to wisdom, it comes with learning lessons

1033
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: in life.

1034
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I grew up with this company, you know,

1035
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: Like I moved to Atlanta. I was like twenty eight

1036
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: twenty nine, Like I was a young one and then

1037
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: started getting into the business. So like, you know, I

1038
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 3: grew up like building a whole business and all the

1039
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: things that happen in life. You're just you're gonna gain

1040
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: wisdom with time, yes, And I remember, like you know,

1041
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: your parents used to be, like you know, you may

1042
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: be you're not as wise as me, and like you

1043
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: know that that is so true, Like you know, you

1044
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: may be faster, you may be younger, but you're not

1045
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: as wise. And wisdom comes with time and a lot

1046
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: of hard lessons and a lot of hard moments.

1047
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1048
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: Yes, you are absolutely right about that.

1049
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: I think anyone who has had the guts to go

1050
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: into being an entrepreneur.

1051
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: Has had to learn that. Yeah, a lot of.

1052
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: Hard lessons that come with it, because a lot of

1053
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: times you're learning on the job, you know, and you're

1054
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: figuring it out.

1055
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: I read about a year recently.

1056
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna read more into this story that like she

1057
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: like one of her friends, she gave her access to

1058
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: her accounts and then she drained the accounts like million

1059
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: dollar business, like a fitness life. It's like a big

1060
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: TikTok story. And then like the business went out of business,

1061
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: like and she was afraid to tell this story because

1062
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: people were.

1063
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 4: Like, what do you mean you gave But it's like

1064
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 4: if you're.

1065
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 3: Just like building something, you're a DTC consumer like entrepreneur,

1066
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: and you're like, this is my friend, this is my homegirl,

1067
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: Like that's a crazy story. This is recent, like this

1068
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: is out now, Like and she lost multimillion dollar business,

1069
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: million dollars in the account, couldn't pay anybody. And then

1070
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: like it's like trying to like sue the girl. Yeah,

1071
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: but you gave her access to your account.

1072
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, what can you do. You don't have a

1073
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: dog in the past.

1074
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 3: You don't have any I mean like there are some

1075
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: stories out here, not even just my stories, but just

1076
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: for entrepreneurs period.

1077
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: So it's it's tough, Yes, tough, it really is, and

1078
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: you have to for it's one thing that Tyler did.

1079
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: He's talking a lot of things, but when it comes

1080
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: to business, even like making sure that you know where

1081
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: your money's going, like writing the checks, approving everything, like

1082
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: mindingly account until I approve.

1083
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,959
Speaker 1: It, I look at the invoices. What is this, said Oprah?

1084
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: Does she saw him that?

1085
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1086
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: He always talks open like I asked Oprah, Oprah, Yeah,

1087
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: that's yes, Yeah, he does, but she does that. She

1088
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 3: says she used to sign even when she had her show,

1089
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: like everyone's check. You know, you probably had she probably

1090
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: had the studio staff of one hundred and fifty two

1091
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: hundred people. You know, Like, but can you just imagine,

1092
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: like you got to do it.

1093
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: Because you will wake up and like where's this? Where

1094
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: is that? I'm always asking questions. I look at it.

1095
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: I don't just approve the number. I look at the invoice.

1096
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm looking at dates.

1097
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: What is this?

1098
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 4: Me and my accountant be texting a much.

1099
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: I had sent her. I got an email on July four.

1100
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 3: It was like boom, Like it's you know, it's a Saturday,

1101
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: she responded, because like, you know, we gotta be having conversations.

1102
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: But you gotta watch your money for sure, because it

1103
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: comes and it goes. It does, and you know there

1104
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 3: will be days like you know, you'll see one hundred

1105
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: thousand dollars come and then next day you got payroll

1106
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: and voice I mean, and then you're like, oh, it's.

1107
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 4: Like what happens next?

1108
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 3: Like it's just like, you know, it's just a tough thing,

1109
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: and you got to imagine, like just think of like

1110
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: someone like Tyler Perry, like how much he has to

1111
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: see even just like seeing the studio and how big

1112
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 3: it is, and just like you know, like can you

1113
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: imagine it's like such a it's a production, and it's

1114
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: like and it only God willing. As an entrepreneur, it

1115
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: only gets bigger and it only gets greater. And so

1116
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: it's only more invoices and more things you got to

1117
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: pay for and more. I mean, it comes with it, Yeah,

1118
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: it comes. It's how big do you want to get?

1119
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know exactly, Yeah, and understand, I think how

1120
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: you steward over it when it's small, it's going to

1121
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: show you how to stew it over as it gets bigger.

1122
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: And I love that you said that because a lot

1123
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: of times I think that's where we have gotten bigger

1124
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: is just being like, you know, my goal in the beginning,

1125
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 3: it was like a million dollars, a million meals, and

1126
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: so then every time it's bigger than that, you're like, gosh.

1127
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: So finding like gratitude even when it's been really really

1128
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: hard for me and I've had some hard years and

1129
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: some hard times in building the business, Like I just

1130
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: find attitude and like all that we've done. And so

1131
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 3: sometimes like even if I have to shut down tomorrow.

1132
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 3: You know, I've done this.

1133
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: I've done this.

1134
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: I've opened all these grocery stores, I've fed all these

1135
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 3: people like there's and what I'm learning now is being

1136
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 3: okay with however it turns out. And I think that's

1137
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: what has gotten in my way before. It is like

1138
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: kind of caring about like what are people going to think?

1139
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: Like?

1140
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 4: But no one knows how hard it is as an entrepreneur.

1141
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 4: So I.

1142
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 3: Got to shut down because no one knows that. It's

1143
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: like I'm you know, moving money and I'm saving money,

1144
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 3: like you.

1145
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: Know, I'm invessing my own money business.

1146
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: I' gonna get out of.

1147
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: Another time.

1148
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 4: Yes, I like doing it.

1149
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean I shut it down.

1150
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 3: I'm one of those people who open bank accounts that

1151
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: like places that I'm never I'm like there, I'm not

1152
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 3: even going there, and then I gotta go in there,

1153
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: you know, I just like dang, like I gotta. So

1154
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: It's been a lot that have happened, but I know

1155
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: it'll I know it'll come back to me. And it

1156
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 3: has so many I mean just all the experiences being

1157
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: able to write a book, being able to you know,

1158
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: have experiences like being here with you, like it never

1159
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: would have happened had and I got started and not

1160
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 3: kept going.

1161
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: For sure kept going? How did your faith carry you through?

1162
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: I mean I feel like faith definitely.

1163
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 3: I am often asking God to like order my steps,

1164
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: like whatever it's gonna be, like that's it because and

1165
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 3: that's I'm like, well, if he can't shut it down today,

1166
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 3: you know, he must keep going because like that's my

1167
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: my constant prayer is like you know, I and I

1168
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: do wish I could really have like those moments for

1169
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: God is like this what we're gonna do, Like you know,

1170
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: like that's kind of the thing, like make it very

1171
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: very clear. But I definitely just have to like pray

1172
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 3: and believe. And I always say to myself the one

1173
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: thing I say to myself when I have a lot

1174
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: of hard moments is like, Jasmine, God did not bring

1175
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 3: you here. He didn't bring you this far to leave you, Like,

1176
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: look how much further you've gone from a million like

1177
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: just look from from that vision, like there's no way

1178
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 3: that this could be the end of it.

1179
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: And you know, times like have you had moments where

1180
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: like you think about just throwing in the towel and

1181
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: then you look at that moment and then you see.

1182
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: How far he's brought you from that moment to give

1183
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: it up. Oh yeah. I was like, all right, it's

1184
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: so meny.

1185
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: I mean like a lot of times, and I mean,

1186
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: and I always know that it's something that's still gonna come.

1187
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: Like I don't know what it's going to be, but

1188
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, cause we're doing we're doing good work. I

1189
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: feel like we're doing the Lord's work, like you know.

1190
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: And I always tell people like, at the end of

1191
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: my life, I didn't get in it to like become

1192
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: a millionaire and make all this money, like that wasn't

1193
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: my goal. I was just already feeding people when I

1194
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 3: had nothing. So it was more so to like do good,

1195
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: do something good, and like, you know, make a life

1196
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: for it. But I always say, like, at the end

1197
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: of my life, like I really will be able to

1198
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: stay before God and be like, listen, your people were

1199
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: hungry and I fed them, you know, likes come on, yes, futures.

1200
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: Mama one time she told me and Miss Jay she

1201
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I know one thing about a baby.

1202
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 3: You're gonna go to heaven.

1203
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 4: So I know that.

1204
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. I want to get

1205
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: into your book.

1206
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: You are now an author, and I want to know

1207
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: what inspired you to write this book, and let's talk

1208
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: about that process.

1209
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: You know, I gave my first TED talk in twenty nineteen,

1210
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 3: and so at that point, like a lot of people

1211
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: were reaching out about like, you know, would you want

1212
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: to turn it into a book. But I didn't have

1213
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: a lot of lessons yet, like you know, I had

1214
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: at that point only been in business for two years.

1215
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: So fast forward to twenty twenty four, the opportunity to

1216
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: presented itself again, and I was like you know what, yeah,

1217
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: like three was so hard that twenty twenty four I

1218
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I got something to write about.

1219
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 4: I have something to talk about.

1220
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 3: And I started kind of laying, like, you know, my

1221
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: favorite chapter in the book is about failure, and it

1222
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 3: talks about feeling a lot like not not.

1223
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 4: Once, because you don't feel once. You fell often like

1224
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 4: you feel.

1225
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 3: I mean there's days at our store, like you know what,

1226
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: we felt like a customer, I'm gonna go leave a

1227
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 3: bad review on you, you know, it's like, well, sorry, you

1228
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 3: had a bad experience, like you know, like you know

1229
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: that happens, So that's a failure, right if they don't

1230
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 3: have a good experience that's a failure on your business

1231
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: on that day. Like you know, you try, but you

1232
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: could have done things better. So I think just the

1233
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: experiences that I had had felt like I was really

1234
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: like a thought leader in this space and just all

1235
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: that I was realizing and all that I was seeing.

1236
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 3: So I think that's what made me want to write

1237
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: it and really just to inspire and so not so

1238
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 3: much if everyone will go out and feed somebody, but

1239
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 3: if you have an idea.

1240
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 4: Could you go after it?

1241
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: Because I was I would probably have a million dollars

1242
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 3: in the bank if I had a dollar for everyone

1243
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 3: who was like I thought about that. I think, you know,

1244
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,479
Speaker 3: I used to wonder what was happening in the food

1245
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 3: and I thought about I mean, just so many.

1246
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 4: People I thought about doing a deli like that. I

1247
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 4: mean just all of that and the only difference that's it.

1248
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 4: It's just the execution.

1249
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 3: And that's the biggest difference between the successful people and

1250
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 3: the people that it's just who's executing on it every

1251
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 3: single day and just to like give people those tips

1252
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 3: has been and just I mean writing the book, there

1253
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: is like so many stories that I was just like,

1254
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 3: whoa like this has been? I'm going to actually when

1255
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: this is all said and done, that's the book. Next

1256
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: is going to be Like the screenplayers, I got to

1257
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: figure out a way to like write this is like

1258
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 3: an insecure tech person because like I was living life

1259
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: building this business and a lot was happening, like just

1260
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: a lot of crazy stories. So you know, I just

1261
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: needed to put it on paper and like get it

1262
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 3: out there. And now it'll be there for forever, and

1263
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,959
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty cool even if companies not there.

1264
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 3: Like the story of how I built this company and

1265
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 3: where it came from is there, and I'll always be

1266
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: able to like turn to it and like you know,

1267
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: point to it and teach about it one day.

1268
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: And it can become other things like a show Like

1269
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: I love that.

1270
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it really should be because it's just I mean,

1271
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: people just want to believe it, and you I think

1272
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 3: now we're hearing more stories of people opening up about

1273
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: how hard it's been on entrepreneur and journeys, like I

1274
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: think of like Ami Kole who like shut down her

1275
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: makeup brand, or like, you know, people are talking about

1276
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 3: these things now where a lot of times it was

1277
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: like very taboo. I have a lot of frin I'm

1278
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: in a group of women founders, like all black women,

1279
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: who have raised over a million dollars. I think there's

1280
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: like two hundred of us. So a new website just

1281
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: came out like archiving us as we raised capital.

1282
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 4: And so we're in this group called Visible Figures.

1283
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: And it's been a lot of companies who were shut down,

1284
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: like people are like I'm shutting down, We're getting acquired,

1285
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: we're doing I mean, it's just a lot of it.

1286
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 3: But we don't often talk about our failures out loud.

1287
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: And this is like me talking about like, hey, this

1288
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 3: is what I got right, this is what I'm working on,

1289
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: this is what I got wrong, and this is what

1290
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: I now.

1291
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 4: It's your turn to go.

1292
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: Out and like, you know, learn from my mistakes. But

1293
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: if you have a vision for something, you know, it's

1294
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 3: really up to you to execute on it. That's the

1295
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: big purpose of the book is like the idea is

1296
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 3: nothing without action. Yeah, you know it's not. I mean

1297
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 3: I was sitting down drawing. I was in a hackathumb

1298
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 3: but as a team of one, like you know, literally, yes,

1299
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 3: like it's just gonna be me. That's where Shelley met me.

1300
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 3: I was one and Shelley can attested that I walked

1301
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 3: in there, I'm like, is this your team?

1302
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 4: It's me, Like, this is it?

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Speaker 3: The idea is just it is about to be just

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Speaker 3: jazzmine and this is you know, I'm getting up, I'm

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Speaker 3: pitching and I'm talking about this vision and how it

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Speaker 3: was going to work and going and you know, picking

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Speaker 3: up food myself. I used to have like a Hynde

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Speaker 3: Sonata and it smelled so bad because I had picked

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Speaker 3: up so much food, dropped them and spilled black beans

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Speaker 3: and just like all this stuff, like black beans smell

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Speaker 3: really bad after a day or two, like it smells

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Speaker 3: like death. You know, that car when it was done,

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Speaker 3: it was smelling like food at all times. And so

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Speaker 3: so I did it all like I was the one

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Speaker 3: going out and picking up the food and trying to

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Speaker 3: do all of the things. And if I could do it,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't come from money. I don't come

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Speaker 3: from I didn't have like someone write me a check,

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Speaker 3: just go out and test this out. And even though

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Speaker 3: the investment piece, which I talk about a lot in

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Speaker 3: the book, was a big source of kind of contention

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Speaker 3: for me, right because I wanted to feed people, investors

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Speaker 3: wanted me to make money. And I believe that we

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Speaker 3: could do both. I cherish people that put money into

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Speaker 3: my vision, and so a lot of times I had

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Speaker 3: like conflicting, like, well, maybe I do do this, maybe

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Speaker 3: I can cut costs by giving people this or like,

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Speaker 3: and it was like I just kept going back to like,

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Speaker 3: I have to give people choices, like it has to happen,

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Speaker 3: and then I don't know how it's going to happen

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Speaker 3: every single month, but ultimately it has to happen. And

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Speaker 3: so it's I think it'll be a really good book

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Speaker 3: for entrepreneurs.

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Speaker 1: Across the bar And where can we find this book?

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Speaker 4: Everywhere? So it's on Amazon now.

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Speaker 3: So it officially comes out on July twenty first of

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, but you can pre order it Barnes

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Speaker 3: and Noble, all the places, Black bookstores, please support.

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Speaker 4: And I'm just really grateful for it Just looks so good.

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Speaker 3: It's so good, Like the little eggs are matching your dress,

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Speaker 3: it's like all the curtain, it's like all it.

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Speaker 4: Was, it was, it was so divine.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we are proud of you and all the work

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Speaker 2: that you have done, not just for this city, but

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Speaker 2: the impact that you're making worldwide. I'm very proud of

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Speaker 2: you and inspired as well. Yes, is there anything else

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Speaker 2: that our audience can do to support you?

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Speaker 1: Where can we follow you?

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Speaker 3: Letts please, guys, I'm Jasmine Crow on everything Instagram threads.

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Speaker 1: I'm really I heard your threads.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and then my company Gooder is Good or

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Speaker 3: co on everything and we would just love for you

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Speaker 3: guys to support us. If you're ever in Atlanta. We

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Speaker 3: have a deli, a grocery store on Edgewood near the

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Speaker 3: historic King Center, and we just want to feed people.

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Speaker 3: We want to feed you and we want to be

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Speaker 3: able to like go to other cities n team markets now,

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Speaker 3: but we should be everywhere. There's nowhere they're good or

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Speaker 3: shouldn't be like we're trying to feed people and feed

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Speaker 3: people good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's love where it came from, Jasmine. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Yes, so I

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Speaker 1: can't wait. I'm glad you got the book right on times.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Thank you guys, Thank you, Jasmine.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for reminding us that purpose isn't just about

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Speaker 2: having a great idea. It's about having the courage to

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Speaker 2: keep saying yes even when the assignment gets Heavy. Congratulations

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Speaker 2: on your new book, Feeding Hope, and thank you for

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Speaker 2: continuing to serve communities with both compassion and action, and

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Speaker 2: thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: If this conversation encouraged you, please.

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Speaker 2: Share with someone who is discovering or rediscovering their purpose.

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Speaker 1: And don't forget to join the Sweetish Social Club. We

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Speaker 1: are now open.

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Speaker 2: Follow us on Instagram at Sweetie Social Club for everything

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Speaker 2: that we have going on in the meantime in between time,

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Speaker 2: y'all already know what to do.

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Speaker 1: Keep positive.

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Speaker 2: Sweeties, get the book, don't get it