1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio yesterday. The owner has passed a new overtime rule, 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: so each team now has an opportunity to touch the 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: ball in overtime in the postseason. Won't be in the 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: regular season. We can't be certain how it's going to 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: turn out, but this is about star power at the 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: quarterbacking position, and the league has changed a whole quarter 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: to cater to quarterbacks because Josh Allen didn't get to 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: touch the ball against the Kansas City Chiefs. Here is 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: the commissioner, Roger Goodell on overtime changes. We're always looking 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: to improve and I think really drove the decision with 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: the database ultimately and looking at the facts and what's 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: happened where we saw that most having an influence. I 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: think it was twelve games in the postseason I've been 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: in overtime, seven of which I believe were one on 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: the first possession. When you see that, that's the type 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: of thing that I think our coaches everyone looked at. 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: This is an issue in the postseason we should deal with. 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily mean believe that just because we're doing 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: in the postseason that'll lead to the post in the 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: regular season, though not to correct the commissioner. But I'm 22 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: able to correct the commissioner. Since twenty twelve, the team 23 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: that started with ball one eight of ten postseason overtime 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: games use one off to bring in the popular Peter 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: King Football Morning, an America economist. If the NFL asks 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: you a week ago, Pete, what would you suggest for 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: overtime in the postseason, what would you say? I'd say 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: you should do exactly what they did, Dan. I think 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: all the other things that are discussed are interesting, just 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: continuing playing football, having a time quarter, all that stuff. 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 1: It's all interesting, But I think the one issue that 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: solves almost everything is simply mandating that the other team 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: get a possession the second team get a possession. And 34 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. The NFL one of the reasons 35 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: that they didn't pass this in the regular season is 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: that coaches don't want to create longer football games in general, 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: and the players union is adamantly against creating longer games, 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: especially now that the league has gone to a seventeen 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: game season. And I understand all the other things that 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: have been discussed, and I think all of them have merit. 41 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone, you know, the merit of just continuing 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: to play football. But I do think that this one 43 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: basically solves all the global issues and Dan, I think 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: one of the other things that it does, it's going 45 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: to add, in my opinion, intended consequences of having a 46 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: much more strategic decision and decisions to be made in overtime, 47 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: because I believe that most coaches now, if they win 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: the toss to start overtime, are going to yep, you 49 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: want the ball second, because you want to know what 50 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: you have to do. If you hold the team on 51 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: first down and all you need is a field goal 52 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: to win, that's different, obviously. So I think it's gonna 53 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna create some strategy that doesn't currently exist. Yeah, 54 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask you, if you were a 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: coach and you won the coin toss, you're more likely 56 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: to probably defer. I'm guessing the numbers the analytics may 57 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: bear that out. I'm sure you know there can be 58 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: none yet because this hasn't existed. But I don't know 59 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: why you wouldn't take the ball second, you know, unless 60 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: you're a huge believer in momentum, and if you have 61 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: finished the fourth quarter by scoring ten points in two 62 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: minutes and the crowd's going crazy, and then you get 63 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: your choice or you know whatever. You would probably then choose. 64 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: You might choose to take the ball, but I think 65 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: most coaches are going to defer. Yeah, that's a great 66 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: point of momentum and writing that momentum. The situation going 67 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: on with Deshaun Watson and the commissioner, and he said 68 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: he's not going to put him on the Commissioner's example list, 69 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: which is a big story by the way. Yeah, I 70 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: was surprised at that. Why do you think he said 71 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: he wouldn't put him on the examp list. I think 72 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: it's pretty simple that. I think the NFL is a 73 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: little bit I don't want to say fearful, but they 74 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: have trepidation about using that as a catch all because 75 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: they've used it in the past. And you know, I 76 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: also think Dan that can you imagine if you were 77 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: the Haslems and you're already under fire, and just imagine 78 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: if they put this guy on the Commissioner's exemp list 79 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: until all of his legal issues had been adjudicated, and 80 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: you had to pay forty six million dollars to a 81 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: player for not playing in a season. If all these 82 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: issues weren't adjudicated, but I do think it's significant they 83 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: said that. And now I think the big question is 84 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: if they do wait for all of those suits to 85 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: be settled one way or the other. And theoretically it's 86 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: possible that he wouldn't be suspended till twenty twenty three. Theoretically, 87 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: and we looked at the restructuring of that contract or 88 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: the structuring of that contract, and he's going to make 89 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: a little over a million. And as I pointed out yesterday, 90 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: while it looks like he's kind of bracing himself to 91 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: be suspended, Aaron Rodgers is only going to make a man. 92 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: Most contracts are done that way. The only reason why 93 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: everybody brought that up and why I said that made 94 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: me so angry I wanted to spit nails, is because 95 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: it's very clear that the Browns like this, that that 96 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: was a selling point clearly to Deshaun Watson, to say that, hey, listen, 97 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: we are totally in your corner and no matter what 98 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: happens this year, we're going to hand you forty five 99 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: million dollars signing bonus and we're not going to ask 100 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: for any of it back, regardless how long you're suspended 101 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: for We're talking to Peter King Football Morning in America columnist. 102 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: Who do you think is in Moore in limbo, Garoppolo 103 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: or Baker Mayfield? Probably Garoppolo, because I would expect that 104 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: something would happen with Baker Mayfield before the draft. I'm 105 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: not sure that Garoppolo will get traded before the draft. 106 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: I think that Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch absolutely have 107 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: told him they love Jimmy Garoppolo, love him, and they're 108 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: going to do the best thing for Garoppolo if at 109 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: all possible. But I can see a scenario if I 110 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: were the forty nine ers right now, I'd hang on 111 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: to Jimmy Garoppolo until something none fortuitous, fortuitous for the 112 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 1: forty nine ers but bad for somebody else. Some quarterback 113 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: gets hurt and there's a desperate need for one, and 114 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: I could see that happening, And if I were them, 115 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: that's exactly what I do. I'm not trading them for 116 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: a four or something like that. I'm hanging onto him because, look, 117 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are in position in a weekend 118 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: NFC to get to the Super Bowl. They came very 119 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: close last year to getting to the Super Bowl. And 120 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: so why would they give up the insurance of being 121 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: really good at the quarterback positions. So I think they 122 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: hang on to them until they get a decent offer. 123 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: It's like when Teddy Bridgewater got injured and Sam Bradford 124 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: was traded from the Eagles and they I think got 125 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: a number one pick or first round pick for him, 126 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: and that trade happened, Dan, that trade happened on Sunday 127 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: of Labor Day weekend or Saturday on Labor Day weekend, 128 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: like eight days before the season started. So that's why 129 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: you hang on to Jimmy Garoppolo because you just never 130 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. And then Baker Mayfield with 131 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: that salary that that would be a nice salary for 132 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: a starting quarterback, but nobody wants to pay eighteen million 133 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: dollars for a guy that you're not sure if he'll 134 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: be a starting quarterback. Is that the biggest hang up here? Yeah? 135 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean, well, that plus the fact that most teams 136 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: have settled their quarterback situation and that hasn't included Baker Mayfield. 137 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: The thing is, Dan, do you want to pay eighteen 138 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: point nine million dollars for a quarterback to play seventeen 139 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: games who you're not sure he's going to be anything 140 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: other than a bridge quarterback for your team. Imagine you're 141 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers and you would sign him. Let's just say, 142 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, then you stand in the 143 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: way of getting some final answer on Sam Darnold. You 144 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: might stand in the way of saying, man, we love 145 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: Maligue Willis, let's just take him at number six. And 146 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: if you're Seattle, I mean, if you were to sign 147 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: Baker may Field in Seattle, you would want I would 148 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: think to do an extension with him and say, hey, look, 149 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: we're going to give you a real chance to be 150 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: our quarterback, but we don't want to hamstring ourselves financially 151 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, it feels like if I'm Carolina, 152 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of these teams you mentioned, I 153 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: may just try to get through this year. I may 154 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: roll the dice, may draft somebody and just and see 155 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: if I find you know, gold here, not bring somebody 156 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: in who's going to be ready to get extended and want, 157 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, whatever kind of money if he has a 158 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: successful year. You know, this is a funny year for 159 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: the draft in because you saw in December everybody said 160 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: no quarterbacks are gonna get picked till twenty six or 161 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, you were seeing all those things. Well, now 162 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: you have all the pro days, and you got one 163 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: team that's excited about Desmond Ritter. You've got a couple 164 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: of teams that are really excited, you know about about 165 00:09:55,160 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: Malik Willis, you know, and obviously Kenny Pickett. Interesting story 166 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: about Kenny Pickett is that if you really searched deep 167 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: into the archives, the deep Internet, and you guys can 168 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: find this, it's hilarious. There is a photo of Matt 169 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: Rule and high school junior Kenny Pickett hosing at Temple 170 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: University after he agreed, you know, committed to go to 171 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: Temple and then seven months or eight months later, Matt 172 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: Rule was gone. He rescinded his commitment, changed a pit. 173 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: But that has drawn a lot of people to say, Hey, 174 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: what about the Panthers and Kenny Pickett? And just imagine though, 175 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: what would be really interesting if Pickett makes it to 176 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: the top of the second round. Who knows Carolina could 177 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: end up picking him. Okay, we have a draft bet. 178 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: Paulie thinks that a quarterback will be selected in the 179 00:10:51,120 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: first thirteen picks. Would I would agree with that, but 180 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: I would also say that I'm not at all convinced 181 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: that whoever picks a quarterback will pick at their original 182 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: their current spot. Oh, I would not be surprised. Let's 183 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: say the Steelers are in love with Malik Willis. I 184 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: don't know that they are or they aren't. But Mike 185 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: Tomlin and Kevin Colbert have been to all these pro days. 186 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: But whoever the Steelers pick twentieth, if there's a guy 187 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: they really want, you know, they've shown it, they'll be 188 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: active to try to move for it. Great to talk 189 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: to you, Pete. Hope you're doing well and thanks for 190 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: joining us as always. Okay, Dan, all the best to you. 191 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 1: Match Peter King, Football Morning an America columnist and contributor 192 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: to Football Night in America. Paulie just sent me the 193 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: picture and there's Kenny Pickett got his Temple jersey on 194 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: and there with Matt Rule and then Pickett of course 195 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: ended up going to Pitt seetan what poll question? And 196 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: do we have today? Well, they had to start the 197 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: show off. We put up who is your NBA MVP 198 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: right now? We only gave three options. Yeah, Jason Tatum's 199 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: not getting it. Okay, Booker's not getting it right. Um, 200 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: Lebron's probably not getting it right. So we have Nicola Yokich, 201 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 1: Joel Embiid or Janisanta to Kumpo. I'm gonna give you 202 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: credit for the pronunciation there. Thanks well done. I would 203 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: probably put Luca in there. He's not gonna win. I 204 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: think it'll be curious to see does Lebron finish top 205 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: five in the league vote, not our vote with the show. 206 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm curious if he finished his top five mv pick. 207 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: I'll put Lebron in there too. When's the last time 208 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: Lebron didn't finish top five MVPI. I'm curious because out 209 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: of those three, I I've been saying for a couple 210 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: of months, I thought it was Embiid his award to lose, 211 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: and not that he'll lose it, but the Greek freak 212 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: is coming to get it. Yeah, Pauling, Yeah, it's interesting. 213 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: Luca's not really mentioned that Mavericks are stepping up this year. 214 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: I think they think they have the third best record 215 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, they're forty seven to twenty nine, and 216 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: they've won seven more games this season they did at 217 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: this point last season. And he doesn't have a number 218 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: two guy, like all of these guys were. Now you know, 219 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: you can say the Greek freak doesn't have a traditional 220 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: number two guy. Chris Middleton, true Holiday, those are those 221 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: are really good players. But you know, Luca's got din 222 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: Witty Brunson. They traded Porzingis. So when you go, hey, 223 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: you gotta do it every single night. Remember when Durant 224 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: was gone. Yeah, they were double team in me. Yeah, 225 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: that's what Luca faces every night. Kad, You've been on 226 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: all these teams where he got a lot of talent. 227 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: You know, when Kyrie's not playing, you're like, they're double 228 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: team in me. Did you see where Kyrie said then 229 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: he needs some rest? You know he did. He said 230 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: he needed some rest. Well, that's when you like when 231 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: you go back from a vacation and you were two days. 232 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: I need a break. I'm tired from my vacation. Andrew 233 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: in Washington, Andrew, welcome back to the program. All right, guys, 234 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: good morning, Thanks for taking my call again. I appreciate it. 235 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for the segue from Peter King to the Nbach. 236 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to talk about. I really think 237 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: Lebron James has one focus and one folks, only that's 238 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: getting his seventy eight percent of games played in winning 239 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: the scoring title. Yeah, the Lakers looked horrible last night, 240 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: but in that realm, you always say the MVP is 241 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: a storyline. I don't think gil Kids is going to 242 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: go back to back. That's not what they want. No, 243 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: Janis three times is very elite company. But I think 244 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: that's where they'll go for the story. And I do 245 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: have a stat of the day, all right, Marvin hit 246 00:14:46,720 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: the music. The Lakers allowed eighty first half last after 247 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: the Dallas Bader. That's the most first half points allowed 248 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: by Lakers. Honey and Boo Ellis played in the Indiacolis 249 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: Lakers in nineteen. The stat was good. Phone quality not 250 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: as good, but we'll accept that. By the way, Paul 251 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: George scored thirty four first game back in three months. 252 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: The Clippers were down twenty five and beat the Jazz 253 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: last night. There have been seven comebacks of twenty four 254 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: or more points in the NBA this season, four of 255 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: them by the Clippers. Stat of the day, Stat of 256 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: the day, Last stat of the day, stat of the day. 257 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: It comes that one stat of the day, Yes, Paulie, 258 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't like it. Paul Jorge scoring thirty four, thirty five. 259 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: He's got to have a couple of seventeen one. Stay healthy, 260 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: don't do too much, don't overdo it. It's true, he's 261 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: just come back from vacation. He may need a rest. Yes, 262 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, just like Kyrie, I'm exhausted. Thanks for listening 263 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 264 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or 265 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your 266 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: local station for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports 267 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 268 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, or stream 269 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock app. Poll question for the 270 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: first hour, and are we keeping that for the second hour? Seaton, Dan, 271 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: We had up who's your NBA MVP? Right now? It's 272 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: basically a three way tie between Joel Embiid, Nicola Yokich 273 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: and Jani Santa to Kumpo oh, Luca and Lebron are 274 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: down there, but they're not really getting a lot of votary. 275 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: All right, Are we going to stay with that for 276 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: the second hour? We can stay with that. We could 277 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: also switch it up. We've got a few other options. Okay, 278 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: we've got what we're calling the honorary super Bad movie poll. Oh, 279 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: we'll hold on, Hold off on that, Okay, hold off 280 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: on that. All right? Do we have anything that perchanged overtime? Yes, 281 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: we do. As a matter of fact, Paul sent this 282 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: one in. If you were a coach and won the 283 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: overtime toss, would you take the ball and go for 284 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: two if we score? Or would you kick off and 285 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: get the ball? Second? All right, let's bring in Brandon Staley, 286 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: the Chargers head coach. Coach, I'll start right there with you. 287 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: You're an analytics guy strategy wise. Now, with overtime and 288 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: both teams get the ball, what do you think you're 289 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: going to be leaning towards if you go into overtime 290 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: in the postseason. Well, it's gonna be with you, Dan. 291 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: Hopefully you can appreciate that Dayton flyer helmet in the 292 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: back of this movie. Looks pretty really good to be 293 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, it's by the way, you have to 294 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: join the list of John Gruden and Chuck Noll as 295 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: you know, University of Dayton grads who went on to 296 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. So no pressure there, but you 297 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: need to, you know, jump in into that group. There, yeah, 298 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: or join you know guys like Dan Patrick who have 299 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: become a sports icon starting his own show Pioneer. Yeah, 300 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, well that was McVeigh. Sean McVeigh on that list. 301 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh was going to go into the media, you know, 302 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: not yet, McVeigh claims Dayton through his grandpa. I think so, 303 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: but we're gonna have to look into that a little bit. 304 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: But um yeah, it's I mean, yesterday was an important 305 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: day for the league and there was a lot of 306 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: really good discussion. I think being a part of the discussions, 307 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: you see that the future of the league is really 308 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: important to the people in it, and there was a 309 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: lot of um good dialogue, I think, healthy discussion, and 310 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: I think that we came to the conclusion that the 311 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: postseason was where really the change you need to be made. 312 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: And I think that as as you saw with the 313 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: vote that you know that there was a really you know, 314 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: significant support for it. So I think that it is 315 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: going to change things when you don't have that sudden 316 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: death element. Um. I do think there's going to be 317 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: some you know, different calculation as you head um into 318 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: the game. And I think that now when you're guaranteeing 319 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: both possessions. Um, you know which side of the field 320 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: you're on. Hey, you know when you know that sort 321 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: of thing, knowing that you are going to get an 322 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: op um, you know, it's just like that. It's that 323 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: information advantage that you have by possibly deferring um because 324 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: you don't have that sudden death element. So uh, And 325 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: I think the thinking is that if you did go 326 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: down and score and and kick an extra point, that hey, 327 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: the likelihood of the second team going down and not 328 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: going for two to win it, um, you know they're 329 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: saying is low. But um, if you did, if it 330 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: did end up going you know, score Pat, score Pat, 331 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: that next score would would would finish it. And I 332 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: think that there was just a lot of discussion of hey, 333 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: past this initial period, Hey, then what's going to happen? 334 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: Is there is there still a time element which there 335 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: will be you're going to flip the field and just 336 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: head in a different direction. So uh, it was it 337 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: was a good resolution and now we're we're fine, only 338 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: headed towards something. Are you okay with the overtime rule 339 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: in the regular season? Yes, you know, I think that 340 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, our position with the Chargers was that the 341 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: rules are already different in the postseason as opposed to 342 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: the regular season. Um, you know, in the regular season 343 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: you can end in a tie. Postseason you can't. So 344 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: the rules are already different, and so we support we 345 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: support the things staying the way it is in the 346 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: regular season. What was your initial reaction when you learn 347 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: that Tyreek Hill was no longer in the AFC West. 348 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: That's one of those really significant moves that sort of 349 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: the theme of this offseason. You know, I think defending 350 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: the guy over the course of these you know, however 351 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: long I've been in the NFL, he's definitely a dangerous player, 352 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: one of the most I think dangerous weapons that's ever 353 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: played in the National Football League. But at the same time, 354 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: one of the most dangerous players to ever play in 355 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: the NFL is the guy who was throwing it to him. 356 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: So that guy's still that guy's still there. Um, they've 357 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: got a team, which is the reason why they've been 358 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: to the AFC Championship Game two, three or four years 359 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: in a row. And so it was a monster move. 360 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: For sure. I've got full respect for him. He's still 361 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: in the AFC, so we're still gonna be running into 362 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: that guy. But you know, I think that you know, 363 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: Kansas City's resume speaks for itself and the competition. I think, damn, 364 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: what you're seeing is it's in spears as it's ever 365 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: been in the league, which is good for the league. 366 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: I wonder it felt like the defensive strategy last year 367 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: against Kansas City was keep everything in front of you, 368 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: no home run plays, and really you would give Mahomes 369 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: ten twelve, fifteen yards. You're just not going to give 370 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: him that opportunity to break something big, and it seemed 371 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: to frustrate him. It is the league. Do you think 372 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: that was a kind of a philosophy there group philosophy 373 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: going against Kansas City. Well, I think everyone you know 374 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: has been searching for several years a formula that can 375 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: work for them, and there aren't too many good ones, 376 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: that's for sure. But I think, you know, you just 377 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: got to take into consideration and who they have over there, 378 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: Who's who's throwing the football, and kind of how he plays, 379 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: and then who those weapons are he's thrown too. I 380 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: mean starting a Tyreek and Travis, you know, those are 381 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: two of the best players at their positions in the 382 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: history of the game, and kind of how they play 383 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: off schedule with Pat who's such a dangerous thrower on 384 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: the move, and he's accurate in the deep part of 385 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: the field on the move um and you know, kind 386 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: of the miraculous Really isn't that big of a miracle 387 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: with him because he does it all the time. And 388 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: then they just got a lot of team speed elsewhere 389 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: outside of those three players. So I think that certainly 390 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: was a strategy, but I think that's probably too vague 391 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: of a way of describing it, because you still got 392 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: to be connected with these guys. If you're playing zone, 393 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: these guys are you know, he's gonna throw for eighty 394 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: to ninety percent, and he'll throw for four fifty or 395 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: five hundred. You may it may take him longer to score, 396 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: but he's still going to score. So you have to 397 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: still decide how you're going to play the game. And 398 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: but again, that's why what makes them such a challenging cover. 399 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: What did you learn in your first year that might 400 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: surprise me? I think that in my first year, I 401 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: think the way I described it is that everything was 402 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: happening for the first time all the time. So if 403 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: you can imagine that every day something's happened to you 404 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: for the first time, and I think that a lot 405 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: of people would say, like, Hey, is that is that stressful? 406 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: You know? And I would say my response to that was, 407 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: I felt like it was energizing because I knew how 408 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: good I needed to be every single day in order 409 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: to make those improvements. And I think that I got 410 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: a lot better from the first time. I think I 411 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: interviewed with you when I got hired to this interview. 412 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: I know how much I've improved, and I know how 413 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: much better I am in my own game. But that 414 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: first year I went by fast. Everybody said it it 415 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: would and I think for that reason that I mentioned that, 416 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: that was a big contributing factor. But also, you're getting 417 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: in front of the media after a tough loss, whereas 418 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: when you were a coordinator, you don't have to talk 419 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: to the media. What's that like You lose a game, 420 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: gather your thoughts, and then go get peppered with questions. Well, 421 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: I think it was like when I was playing at quarterback, 422 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: you kind of have that responsibility if it doesn't go down, 423 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, And so I think that having played that position, 424 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: that that kind of uniquely prepares you growing up being 425 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback and a point guard. You're kind of faced 426 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: when it doesn't go down that everyone's looking at you. 427 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: So UM, I think that there was you know, that 428 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: finality when you lose in the NFL. I think being 429 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL, you see it, you see and everyone 430 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: talks about it that way. But I think being the 431 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: head coach and knowing that that you're responsible for a 432 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: lot a lot of people forget forget, you know, the 433 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: game itself, but just the people that were playing in 434 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: the game and the people your fans who this means 435 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: so much for UM, You're accountable for that, and it's 436 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: a it's a great responsibility. And that's why when you 437 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: go in front of the media after a tough game, 438 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: you know you have to be on you know, to 439 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: make sure that um, you do your best to explain 440 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: what happened and to the best of your ability. And 441 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: that's what I try to do this year. I asked 442 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: about your impressions when Tyreek Hill left the AFC West. 443 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: Your initial reaction wouldn't Russell Wilson joined the AFC West. Yeah, 444 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean competitions, fears, and I think that you know, 445 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: I've played against Russell a lot and my NFL career 446 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: watched him throughout his whole career. I mean, going back 447 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: to NC State Wisconsin. You know, he's he's one of 448 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: the tremendous players at that position in the NFL. And 449 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: when I was with the Rams, we had to face 450 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: him three times in one season and twice in three 451 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: weeks at the end of the season. So it's just 452 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: again it's it's special for the league and he's one 453 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: of those players that plays, you know, one of the 454 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: most important positions in sports. So I think it's going 455 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: to bring out the best in everybody, for sure. Does 456 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: Sean McVay rub it in that he's got a Super 457 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: Bowl ring? Does he just you know, does he send 458 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: you a text or something, or when he sees you, hey, 459 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: I want you to address me as super Bowl winning 460 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: coach anything like that. No, Sean's too too humble to 461 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 1: do that and he knows better than to do that. 462 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: But no, he would never do something like that because 463 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: he game, you know, how you do things matters to him. Um, 464 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: he's gotta have fun with you though, Brandon. Nah, he 465 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't do that. He wouldn't go there, um, because you 466 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: know we play them this year, so uh you know, Um, 467 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: But no, Sean. Sean deserves everything that he that he's 468 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: achieved and including this year. He was fantastic. He did 469 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: a really good job coaching that team. That's what I 470 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: told him. You know, I just thought I was, like, 471 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: I thought, you did a really good job coaching your team. 472 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: Because people talk about the end and kind of their 473 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: players who they joined up with, but there was a 474 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: stretch there in the middle where I don't think anyone 475 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: was predicting at the Rams, we're gonna make it to 476 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: victory Lane, and um, that's the sign up an organization that, Um, 477 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: that's that's built the last to be able to respond 478 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: to a tough stretch. And that's what they did. Who 479 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: do you get mistaken for? Man him that? I don't 480 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: know if I was ready for that one. Um, I 481 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: don't know that you're in LA. I mean, did you 482 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: ever been mistaken identity for an actor? I don't know. 483 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: I've gotten some Johnny Knox Stille comps in the bad 484 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, there was like a time there, Um, you know, 485 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: I kind of you know, and I'm the same agent 486 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: Matt Liner, you know, former quarterback you know, but those 487 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: are two names that have been thrown out there in 488 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: the past, I don't know how accurate they are. And 489 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: then you know, throughout the year, I was getting peppered 490 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: with these questions about this Ted Lasso guy. So um, 491 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: I haven't watched that show yet, but I'm told bit, 492 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 1: I need to, so Amy, and I may join up 493 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: with that show here soon. I kind of see Peter 494 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: Brady from the Brady Bunch, you know what, Dan, now 495 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: that you mentioned that, I've heard about that, And again, 496 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: that was kind of before my time, which probably dates 497 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: me a little bit on the youthful side. But I 498 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: didn't join up with that. I was a young kid. 499 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: So well, if you google Peter Brady, you might go, Okay, 500 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: he's got a point. It's not it's not an insult. 501 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: It's not an insult. That was a successful show, Yes 502 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: it was, Yes it was. And Johnny Knoxville, I could 503 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: see that. You even have the voice kind of Raspie 504 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: in there. I could see that. Get those glasses on. 505 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: I could see that, maybe bring Johnny Knoxville to practice. 506 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: Johnny had a great roun man and he's still doing it. 507 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: Yes he is. Respect for that guy. Hey, great to 508 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: talk to you, Enjoy the offseason, good luck in the draft, 509 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: and uh, always great to visit with you. Thanks dam 510 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: for having me. That's Brandon Staling, Charger's head coach. You know, 511 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: these guys get ready for the questions, get a little programmed, 512 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you slip in. Who 513 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: do you get mistaken for? Not ready for that? That's 514 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: that's the Mahomes in me. You know, I can still 515 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: surprise you a little bit there. I had to throw 516 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: him off his game a little bit. I knew he 517 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: had a couple of them in there. Yeah, I didn't 518 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: get ted Lasso, Johnny knox Field, I get that. Peter 519 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: Brady though to me when I saw his picture this 520 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: morning that he was going to be on the show, 521 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: I said, Peter Brady, huh look right, yeah, see right now. Yeah, 522 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: that's what I charge a loss to the Raiders. Well 523 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: I gotta do is slow down. The thiep sock went. 524 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: Some big sad happened. Someone stole Marsha's lunch or whatever. 525 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: She gets hit in the face with a football cheating 526 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: on the social studies test. Marsha, But I don't know 527 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: what TV executive said, Hey, I got a great way 528 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: to put something into a script where we don't have 529 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: to have any words. We'll just have a little bit 530 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: of music in there. That's exact thieb Sock, but just 531 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: slowed down to the sad thing that happened. He lost 532 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: his job as a how they're gonna pay the rent? Yeah, 533 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: that show used to have the best sports cameos. I 534 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: think Joe Namath, yes, Deacon Jones I think was on there. 535 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: Was Fred Dryer probably there. I think we should google 536 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: how many uh how many athletes? Was Kareem on there? Man, 537 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: that's a good one. I don't know if Kareem was 538 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: on there, but you know they didn't. Joe Namoth he was. 539 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: He was there to teach Peter how to throw the football. 540 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: It just coincidentally. He was at the taco joint down 541 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: the street and he's in the backyard which had AstroTurf. 542 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: I know they had an AstroTurf that probably heard Joe's 543 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: knees worse. Yeah, yeah, Joe Namiths in their backyard. He's 544 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: in full uniform, face mask five black, and we were entertained. Well, 545 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: the only reason why I watched is the girls were 546 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: good looking. He was at Ralph's grocery store around the 547 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: corner in full unis. He's buying a six back and uh, hey, Joe, 548 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: you're buying a six pack. Yeah, hey, could you come 549 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: in my backyard? I'd like to learn to throw the football? Sure. Yeah, 550 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: it's got a big game this year. Yeah, I was 551 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: gonna say, speaking of cameos with somebody in their full 552 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: game uniform, Mike Piazza on Baywatch, he's swinging a bat 553 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: on the beach. I mean swinging a bat on the beach. Yeah, 554 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: he's wearing stirrups. Mike Piazzo, what are you doing on 555 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: the beach? What are you doing here? Yes, ton, I 556 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: see something here that says Don Drysdale's very special guest 557 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: of Southern California's Favorite Family. Was up to him to 558 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: stop Greg from being the dropout, because that's who you 559 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: want to have. You're gonna have done the late Don Drysdale. 560 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: It started out where he's like he just wanted to 561 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: drop out from school, and then Don drives he's gonna 562 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 1: be a superstar singer. He's Johnny Bravo. Isn't that who 563 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: he turned in? There? Didn't he have his like alter ego, 564 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: Johnny Bravo? Yes, fault. Yeah. Don Drysdale comes to the house. 565 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: He happen to be friends with architect Mike Brady. How 566 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: does an architect hang out with the greatest picture on 567 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: the I didn't Mike. Mike didn't have much of a life. 568 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: I never saw him get out. There's another episode where 569 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: the Peter's team is the little football team. They're ringing 570 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: by the way, jeans and helmets at practice. All of 571 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: a sudden, Deacon Jones, all pro for the Rams, walks 572 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: up in a leisure suit. For God's sake, Hey, kids, 573 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: here's how you head slap Jimmy. And you know, we 574 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: were so young watching the Brady Bunch, Like you're not 575 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: processing it. It's not like somebody said, Uh, what isn't 576 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: that strange that you got Joe Nama in a full 577 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: uniform there? Hey, Don Drysdale's trying to help your kid 578 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: not be a dropout. Sure, I'm gonna believe it. Right, 579 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: Let me take a break. Uh, morphone calls coming up 580 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: and uh an interesting interesting story about a musician who 581 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: is canceling a concert on Saturday so he can go 582 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 1: see the final four Brown Brown If you got tickets 583 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: to that. 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I 611 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: mentioned that you said everything will be on the table 612 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: for the Lakers this offseason, that includes Anthony Davis. What 613 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: leads you to believe that? I just I don't, Dan, 614 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do. I'm looking at 615 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: with the cards that they're holding. I just don't know 616 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: how they dramatically get out of this situation. And so 617 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: I think they'll discuss it. Do I think they'll do it. 618 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't see a trade that makes 619 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: sense for them right now. Also, I don't know if 620 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: I would trade a guy who's a top fifteen player 621 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: when he's healthy, because it's so hard to get that, 622 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: and I don't think you're gonna get that in return. 623 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: So ultimately I don't think they will. But I'm just 624 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: looking at what they have to do. Like again, I 625 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: honestly think that they're gonna have to call the other 626 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: twenty nine teams and they're gonna have to say, what 627 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: can you send us Russell Westbrook? You know, not as 628 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: a player, forget about him as a player, just as 629 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: a forty seven million dollar expiring contracts. We will gather 630 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: the contracts you don't want on your books anymore, and 631 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: we'll take them. We'll take three NBA players, whoever they are, 632 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: and you can use Russell Westbrook to sell tickets to 633 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: rebuild your salary cap to release, and we will take 634 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: any three players. I mean, I honestly think that's where 635 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: they're going to have to start. And I still don't 636 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: know if they're going to get takers or somebody that 637 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: doesn't say, yeah, we'll take him, but send us you're 638 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: unprotected twenty twenty seven first round tech. I just think 639 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be really heart It sounds hopeless. What's not helpless? 640 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: If you have Lebron and a d I mean, just 641 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: to be clear, but they're both healthy and playing. They're 642 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: really good. But Dan, when they won the title in 643 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: the Bubble, they were the number one defensive team there 644 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: in Orlando, and last year they were remember they were 645 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: in a really good position before Lebron sprained his ankle. 646 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: Those are really bad injury and it derailed them. But 647 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: for the season they were the number one defensive team, 648 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: number one, so they had good bones, if you will. 649 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: And so when they traded for Russell Westbrook, a lot 650 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: of people focused on, oh, it was just a terrible 651 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: fit with Lebron, and that's true, of course, But to 652 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: get Russell Westbrook, they traded away the core of their defense. 653 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: Kentavius called well Pope and Kyle Kuzma really valuable defensive players, 654 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: and the guys they replaced them with were not. And 655 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: so they've gone from number one defense. I didn't check 656 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: it this morning, like they've been down around twenty. That's 657 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: a catastrophic fall when their team was built on doing that. 658 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: And so that is the issue. How do you recapture 659 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: that when you've already gassed all of your resources to 660 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: get a player that is not working? And I know 661 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: you brought this up that Lebron works in four year increments, 662 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: whether it's Cleveland, Miami, Cleveland, now with Los Angeles, well, 663 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he can work in a four year 664 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: increment now in LA is he there for the rest 665 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: of his career. I don't think he's going anywhere. I 666 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: don't think he wants to go anywhere. You know, I 667 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: was looking, so the Lakers team is the oldest team 668 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: in the NBA, and so I wanted to know the 669 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: oldest team since went And I had somebody here at 670 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: ESPN Gold researchers for me, and he said it is 671 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: the oldest team since the two thousand and ten Calves, 672 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: And I was not surprised at all. And by the way, 673 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: that doesn't even include the twenty fourteen Miami Heat where 674 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: when they lost that finals to the Spurs, I went 675 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: into the locker room, Shane Battier announced his retirement. In 676 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: the locker room, Ray Allen basically brought the ball to 677 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: the one yard line on retiring, and Rashard Lewis, who 678 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: started the game that night, never played in the NBA again. 679 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: So three of the you know, three of the starters, 680 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: three of the top six players from his last year 681 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: in Miami never played again. So this is what happens 682 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: when you have Lebron. You pour yourself and you trade 683 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: your draft picks, you signed veterans, you do everything you 684 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: can't and a franchise just can't do that. Over and 685 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: over and over, and two years ago, I would have 686 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: told you, oh, they have a d who's in his 687 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: mid twenties and in his prime. Maybe that won't happen now, 688 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: Maybe the window will extend. Maybe they've learned from watching 689 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: what happened with the Calves and then the Heat and 690 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: then the Calves again, because by the way Calves twenty eighteen, 691 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: they were relying on Kyle Korver and Jeff Green and 692 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and then they do the West portrayed. 693 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: They signed, you know, five guys in their mid to 694 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: late thirties and were in the exact same spot. And 695 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: when Lebron left the Heat, they were lucky that they 696 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: still had Dwayne Wade. But when Lebron left the Cavs 697 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,479 Speaker 1: the first time, they were awful. Lebron left the Cavs 698 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: the second time they were awful. The Lakers, if Lebron 699 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: were to leave right now, would be a you know, 700 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: a non playoff team. That's what being with Lebron for 701 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,479 Speaker 1: a year on the year out does. If you look back, 702 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: and I know, you know, the benefit of hindsight there, 703 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: why couldn't Lebron make it work with the younger players 704 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: that he had that nucleus is still a pretty good 705 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: nucleus and even you know, good players on other teams. 706 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: Why was he not willing to make that work? Well, 707 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: first off, Lebron has never valued draft picks or playing 708 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: with young players. If you go look at his career, 709 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: he's only played with a handful of first round picks 710 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: because most of them been traded. And I always remember 711 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: when he came back to Cleveland, you know, when he 712 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: wrote his you know, a letter and he was like, yeah, 713 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to playing with these guys. And he 714 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: didn't mention Andrew Wiggins, who had just been drafted with 715 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: the norm one overall pick, like fifteen minutes beforehand. He 716 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: was like, bye bye, I'm interested in Kevin Love. And 717 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: so part of it is the teams he's playing with 718 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: reacting to him. And so one of the young players 719 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: he's actually played with in the last couple of years 720 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: is Taylor Horton. Tucker was one of the few guys 721 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: who have been a draft pick who he's taken along 722 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: like Daniel Gibson, Taylor Horton, Tucker, Norris Cole like this 723 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: is the list, Dan, that's the list. It's never been 724 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: something he's valued like when we saw what he did 725 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: when he retweeted less sneat who traded all those picks? 726 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: And you know the parade in La he wore that 727 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: shirt it said f them picks. Lebron tweeted that and 728 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: he goes legend. I think he said legend with multiple 729 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: exclamation points. Lebron's like, get me one of those shirts. 730 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: Like that's the way Lebron feels. So it's hard to 731 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: stay young when you perpetually are wanting your peers, and 732 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 1: Lebron's peer age is going up and up and up 733 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: to be with you on the team. Brian Winhorst, ESPN, 734 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: Senior NBA writer, is your answer different if I say 735 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: who should win MVP and who will win MVP? Well, 736 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: I've pretty consistently voted in our straw poles for MBID. 737 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: I think he's been amazing. I think he plays at 738 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: both ends of the court. I think the things that 739 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: he does, I mean, like people talk about Nikola Yokich, 740 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: what he does for the Nuggets offense, and of course, 741 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: in fact earlier this year, Dan, I you know, most 742 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: of the media doesn't sit on the floor anymore. They've 743 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: sold those seats, They've moved us off. I've got gray 744 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: hair now when all my hair was brown. I sat 745 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: on the court. You probably have sat on the court 746 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: many times. I sat in a game in Oklahoma City 747 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,439 Speaker 1: and I sat in the like the second or third row, 748 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 1: so I was basically eye level with Yokich and I 749 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 1: could kind of see what he seed that he sees. 750 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: And my admiration for him won't even higher because I 751 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: could see actually how great his reeds were in real 752 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,919 Speaker 1: time at his eye love. I will take anything away 753 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: from him, but if you watch, indeed, he does a 754 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: lot for the Sixers offense. He comes out in the 755 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 1: high pick and roll, he sets things up, he plays inside, 756 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 1: he plays outside. I believe he still to this moment 757 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: has my MVP vote. But our straw poll that Tim 758 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,839 Speaker 1: Bonds hamps on our staff did and this I can't 759 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: emphasize this enough. And I notice that Caesars move their 760 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: odds after this poll came out because Caesars has watched 761 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,280 Speaker 1: this poll. This is a poll of one hundred likely 762 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: MVP voters. There's only one hundred. And when Tim does 763 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: this poll, he doesn't call twenty five people in New 764 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: York and twenty five people in Los Angeles. He calls 765 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 1: people in every NBA city. He talks to people in Italy. 766 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: He talks to people in outside the country who who 767 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: because those guys get MVP vote. He talks to broadcast 768 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: He's talked to radio people, he talks to TV, to writers. 769 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 1: It's a real poll of how the voters are feeling. 770 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: That came out yesterday, and that poll says Yokich is 771 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: in the lead. It's it's not a huge margin, but 772 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: he is in the lead. And the odds immediately started 773 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: flipping and they were right, because you could make a 774 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: case Dan for somebody else. I could listen to it 775 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: and agree with you. This is where the voters are 776 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: thinking today that it's Yoki. Having voted on it for many, 777 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 1: many years, it always felt like we were looking for 778 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: a new story when Karl Malone, Charles Barkley and I 779 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: kept voting for Jordan, and then you know, media members 780 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: in the Phoenix in Salt Lake would be critical of me, 781 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: and I go, I just know what I know, and 782 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: I know what I see. Mike's the most valuable player. 783 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: I was watching Jannis last night against Embiid. I think 784 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: Jannis is competing with himself and we take him for 785 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: grant like he's gotten to the point where we're taking 786 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: for granted, which isn't fair to him. And we told 787 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: that story, and I said, I thought Embid was going 788 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: to win it, or at least the last couple of months. 789 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: Because we haven't told that story, I don't know how 790 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: much that factors into this, Brian. We've told the joke, 791 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: you know, Yokich story. This is the one that it 792 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: feels like, all right, Joe, well, embiad is Actually it's 793 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: like the actor who hasn't won the Academy Award. Okay, 794 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. Well, I'll just bring up the classic 795 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: case of this Westbrook. You know, there hadn't been an 796 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,479 Speaker 1: MVP who hadn't had been on a fifty win team 797 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: and something like twenty five years. It was like Moses Malone. 798 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: I cantra if it was with I think it was 799 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: with the Rockets in the early eighties. Typically the MVP 800 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: came off one of the three or four best teams 801 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: in the league. But that year with Westbrook, we were 802 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: all into that story of the get back season on 803 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: Durant and then he put the cherry on top with 804 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: the triple doubles. And I remember this game that he 805 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: played in Denver right about this time, maybe a little 806 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: bit later, early April. It was a knife he guaranteed himself. 807 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: I think the triple double. He knew he was going 808 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: to get it to the average of triple double, and 809 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: he hit like a twenty five footer at the buzzer 810 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 1: to win the game and eliminate the Nuggets from playoff contention. 811 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to underline that he eliminated the Nuggets from 812 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: playoff contention in Denver, and the crowd in Denver gave 813 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: him a standing ovation. Not a good sign for the 814 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 1: Nuggets faithful, but was an indication of how much those 815 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: fans loved the story. They loved the story of Westbrook 816 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: getting back at Durant by doing this, and in a 817 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: situation like that, the story carried the day. So they 818 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: finished like the six or seventh seed, and he won 819 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 1: the MVP. So that's definitely a case. The other thing is, 820 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: you're right, Janie isn't contending against imbid in Yokich. He's 821 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: contending against himself from previous years. When he won his 822 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: second MVP a couple of years ago, he won Defensive 823 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: Player of the Year and MVP. It's one of the 824 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 1: great seasons we've seen in the modern era. I voted 825 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 1: for Lebron. I think seven years in a row between 826 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: two thousand and maybe nine and two about fifteen sixteen. 827 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: He won four of them. I would argue that some 828 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: of those years he was still the best player. But 829 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: the first year in Miami, the story wasn't great. First 830 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,919 Speaker 1: year back in Cleveland, they were nineteen and twenty coming 831 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 1: out of the gates. It's it is everything that you said. 832 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't have said better myself. How good is Lebron's son. 833 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: He's very good. He's going to be a I don't 834 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: know if he's going to go play in college. If 835 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: he were to go play in college, he would probably 836 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: get a high major offer. Whether he would be a 837 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: star on that team, I don't know, having seen him play. 838 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: He is in tremendous physical condition. He was in better 839 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: condition than his dad was at the same age because 840 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: his dad never lifted a weight in his life. Till 841 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: he was sixteen. This kid was having personal training I 842 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: don't know when he was ten. So he's done incredible 843 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: work on his physique. He's very, very conditioned, but he 844 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: is not the athlete Lebron was Lebron was six foot seven, 845 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: six foot eight, two hundred forty pounds when he was 846 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: seventeen and he came into the NBA. He was one 847 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: of the few eighteen year olds ever who physically wasn't intimidated. 848 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: The only player that intimidated Lebron as a rookie was 849 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: run our test. He's the only guy who could get 850 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: into Lebron. That would not be the case for most 851 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: eighteen year olds. So Brownie is very skilled. I talked 852 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: to I think he's listened as a four star prospect. 853 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 1: So think about that. A four star prospect, that's what 854 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: Kentucky North Carolina used to lay go after. He would 855 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 1: be able to play a school like that. How many 856 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: four star prospects make the NBA. I don't know what 857 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: the percentage is, but it's not super duper high. Obviously, 858 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: if he wants to be in the NBA, he'll get 859 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: a chance in the NBA. That will be his last 860 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 1: name will carry him as to that. But I think 861 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 1: assuming that he's going to be ready at age nineteen, 862 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: that's a big ass dan. Maybe he will be. I 863 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: mean that's two years from now. Maybe he will be. 864 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: But when I saw him play, he was a freshman, 865 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: and there were two guys on his team that year 866 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: that are now in the NBA, Zaire Williams, who's with 867 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 1: the Grizzlies, and Brandon Bosses with the Clippers. Those guys, 868 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: when you saw them, you were like, Boa, I will 869 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: see that gentleman in the NBA in two years. I 870 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: don't get that same vibe. And two people I talked 871 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: to don't get that same vibe about Brownie. There are 872 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 1: actually people and I've never seen his younger son Bryce play. 873 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: There are people who have told me that Bryce actually 874 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: might be the better prospect amongst the two. But his 875 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: but Bryce, I think is thirteen or something like that. 876 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if we can go that 877 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: far down the list. I remember watching when Lonzo Ball 878 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: was playing and lo Angelo and LaMelo and I'm watching 879 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: and I think he was a freshman at the time, 880 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: LaMelo and I said, that's the guy who I think 881 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: is going to be the best player. But he didn't 882 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: know how to play like he was just all over 883 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: the place and they, you know, they all they did 884 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 1: is running gun. Lonzo loved his passing. Lo Angelo could shoot. 885 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 1: I thought LaMelo had the entire game I didn't know 886 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: that he would be this good. But you know, you 887 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: start to see guys in the embryonic stages and then 888 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: you you know that that's what they're always trying to project. 889 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: It's really hard to do. And I that's why when 890 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: somebody says, can Bronnie play in the NBA, and I'm like, 891 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've watched him play and there are 892 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: times when he's on the floor and I don't know 893 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: he's on the floor. When LaMelo was on the floor, 894 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: I knew that he was on the floor. He was 895 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: involved in everything, yes, And I mean I I don't 896 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: think it's a matter I mean, I don't think it's 897 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 1: a matter of comparing him to Lebron, because Lebron was 898 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: the greatest high school player that people who watched high 899 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 1: school basketball for fifty years they've ever seen. But I 900 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: would argue that it's I don't know if he's making 901 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: the best decision about putting the pressure on Ronnie. Maybe 902 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: he is, I mean, maybe this is he thinks he's 903 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: going to react with pressure. But when you go out 904 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: and say, I really can't wait to play with my son, 905 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 1: because you know, when Lebron was coming of age, Ken 906 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: Griffey and Ken Griffey Jr. Were doing that, and Ken 907 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: Griffy Junior was a megastar in the world of sports 908 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: when Lebron was thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old. The guy 909 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: at ned Nike who has baden like Lebron's father figure 910 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: Lynn Merritt. Before he handled Lebron for Nike, he handled 911 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: Ken Griffy Jor Lebron's first game as a cav in 912 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: the Nike seats Phil Knight, Lynn Merritt, Ken Griffy Junior 913 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: and Worldwide West. But Ken Griffy Junior came to his 914 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: first hand, So I think he had this affinity for 915 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 1: that for decades now. It's a lot to ask from 916 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: the young man, and I will say this. I spent 917 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: time at Sierra Canyon, where he plays in the San 918 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: Fernando Valley. Dan, I couldn't be more impressed with a 919 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: high school basketball program, and the thing that I love 920 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: about it is that there's no they're not pretending what 921 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,879 Speaker 1: they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing. They're trying 922 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: to prepare professional athletes. He couldn't be at a better place. 923 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's one of the reasons why Lebron sent 924 00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: you moved out to LA. He's getting every game as possible. 925 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: And one of the things is they don't let Ronnie 926 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: do interviews. Like when I went to see him play, 927 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: wasn't on the interview them. So I thought, oh, that's 928 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: really good. And then I saw that there was a 929 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: camera crew following him around. He putting all the way 930 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: out to his car to get into us. This is 931 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: a fourteen or fifteen year old freshman all the way 932 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: out to his car to get into his car, and 933 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: the camera crew was from Lebron's company. So you know, 934 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, are we protecting him? 935 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: Are we not? And you know, I don't have a 936 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 1: star seventeen year old son. What do I know. I'm 937 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: not an MBA superstar. I don't know, but I worry 938 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: that his experience is not going to be maybe what 939 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: it could be. It's always great to catch up with him. 940 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Brian, thanks for having me. Dan. 941 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,399 Speaker 1: It's Ryan Windhorst, ESPN Senior NBA rider. He always has 942 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: something you haven't heard. He always does, and a lot 943 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: of great stuff there with Lebron. But I always I 944 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: look back and I know Lebron doesn't like playing with 945 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: younger players. But you had that young nucleus with the Lakers, 946 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: and I like that nucleus. Not everybody was all in 947 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 1: on Lonzo Ball, and I thought that you could, you 948 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: could make him at least an adequate shooter. And I 949 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 1: liked Ingram. I mean, even Julius Randall think they Kuzma, Kuzma. 950 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 1: I think kind of bought in on I want to 951 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,479 Speaker 1: be a Laker, like I want you to be great. 952 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,720 Speaker 1: And maybe he felt like, you know, he was gonna 953 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: his growth would be stunted because you're playing with Lebron. 954 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,399 Speaker 1: And I understand all of those things. I just if 955 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: you said to Lebron, you could have that younger nucleus, 956 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: or you could have Anthony Davis. I know AD helped 957 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: him get another title. I don't know if he's going 958 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: to help him get another one.