WEBVTT - Eric Lippert - Head Professional at Pebble Beach 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.000 Welcome back to another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast. Today, 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:09.639 I host Eric Lippert had professional at Pebble Beach Golf Links. 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.119 The interview was thanks to a visit to this year's 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.840 US Open host Pebble Beach. I was there for a 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.360 couple nights and got to play all the golf courses 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.400 over there. The opportunity to play was thanks to an 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:29.240 event with our official apparel partner, Summit Brands, makers of 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:34.720 b Dratty Fairway and Green Zero Restriction and EPNY. It 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:38.760 was their annual event, the Summit, which is a pro 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:42.800 member event they have held at Pebble for nine years running. 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:47.000 It was a really classy event, awesome time, a couple 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.560 different formats. It was neat They did a low gross, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:55.160 a net event and then also a pro stableford, so 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.520 it was a fun mix. An awesome time getting to 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.360 play the golf courses and you know, meet some of 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:06.040 their the pros from all over the country that stock 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.640 their stuff in their shops. This was actually my first 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.120 time playing Pebble Beach, which was an experience. I was 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:18.200 excited to play with the upcoming US Open and obviously 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.959 I'll delve into much more in written form but you know, 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.800 a few takeaways from Pebble is having watched it on 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.600 TV my entire life and having walked it but not 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:33.280 really played, is it's amazing how small the greens are. 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.320 You get over shots, and I was playing pretty good 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.040 golf and you can't help but get intimidated, even from 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.520 the center of fairways with wedges in your hands, at 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.240 how small these greens are, knowing you miss. And you know, 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.560 another aspect of the stuff that gets out of the 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.840 course that gets overlooked because of the coverage and the 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.920 way TV flattens things is how penalizing the bunkers are 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:01.760 around The greens are extremely deep, the scale doesn't really 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:08.320 show on TV. With that, also, I was unbelievably impressed 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.840 with the land movement on the golf course. The way 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:16.520 the fairways roll and slant right. You're never really hitting 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.959 a shot from a flat lie, which makes hitting it 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:24.359 into those small greens even more difficult. So I think 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.840 that's kind of when I think about championship golf and 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.440 testing the pros, it's a great recipe when you have 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:37.400 intimidating in small targets to approach to and very difficult 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.520 lies in the fairway where you're not comfortable because you're 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.680 never hitting from a really flat lie. I think we 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:49.560 see at Augusta. Obviously those greens are big, but the 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:54.160 targets and the shelves are really small, and you see 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.360 these pros hitting from lies that are you get a 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.360 ball foot above your stance and it's just really tough. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.480 I think that brings doubt and makes it so much 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.160 different than hitting a ball off a flat lie on 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:11.600 the range. A couple other things just I noticed. Never 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.960 really believed how difficult that par five fourteenth is, But 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.000 my god, this gotta be the hardest par five in 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.359 the entire world. The way the fairway camber's away from 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.480 you kind of for those that don't know. The t 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:28.560 SHOT's really uncomfortable. It's blind, and then the fairway. If 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.760 you miss that fairway, you're just dead. It's so I 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.200 end up. I made par on it, but I had 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.280 to get up and down and I was hitting like 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.120 a three iron into the green because I missed the fairway. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:46.240 And another thing I noticed, the eighteenth tea shot not easy, 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.680 not as easy as the pros make it look on TV. 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:50.880 You don't really have a lot of space to hit it, 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:55.160 especially with the way, they've narrowed the fairway. The fairway's 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.040 narrowed up to where the tree is on the right, 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:03.280 so if you don't you really kinda kind of hit 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.120 a good shot or else you're dead. And that ob 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.440 kind of creeps in on the right. So it'll be 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.080 it'll be interesting to see. I saw this year at 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:13.960 the AT and T a lot of guys weren't even 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.280 hitting driver. They just said, Hey, I'm just gonna make 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.200 it a three shot hole. But it'll be with the 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.080 US Open fairway with it, I mean they're getting they're 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.320 really narrow on a bunch of holes, and even playing 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:30.240 it with short rough for resort play, which was, you know, 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.120 about two and a half inches. I couldn't believe how 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.880 thick and damp that rough gets. So when we see 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.200 it up to five inches, it's it's going to be. 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.080 If you miss those fairways, you're you're not going to 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.760 have a fun time at the US Open. So I'll 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.960 put much more thoughts into my, uh my experience over 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.440 there at Pebble and the golf course and what it 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:56.000 means for this year's US Open. But I can't thank 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:59.279 Summit Brands enough for the event. It was it was 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:03.640 unbelievable and they will be in the US Open Merchandise 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.760 tent this year at Pebble Beach, which is a big deal. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.719 You know, one cool thing from their brands is Faaraway 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.080 and Green. All their men's tech polos are made in 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:18.040 the US and a portion of the proceeds from purchases 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.520 on those polos are given back to Folds of Honor. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.479 So every year they cut a big check to Folds 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.039 of Honor, which is a really great cause. And if 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.400 you don't have their gear stocked in your favorite pro shop, 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.919 do us a favor and tell your pro to stock it. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:36.800 And if you don't want to have a club logo 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.400 or your local course logo, check out the frieda Egg 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.600 Pro shop where we have b dragty polos, T shirts 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:47.960 and some Faariraway and Green pollovers. So, without further ado, 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:52.320 here is Pebble Beach pro Eric Lippert. We talk about 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.520 a lot of things, ranging from his journey to being 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.880 the pro at Pebble Beach to this year's US Open. 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.320 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset when 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.440 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:06.840 And when I find my ball. 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.440 In a Frida egg Friday egg, the dreaded Frida egg, 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.200 Frida egg, Frida egg brid egg, Frida egg bride egg. 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.599 Lie. I'm about ready to run off the golf course. 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.640 Four years at Pebble Beach, sixteen years with the company. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.640 How did you get your start at Pebble Beach? 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.720 You know, I, oddly enough, he started at Pebble Beach 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.320 back in ninety eight, not not here specifically, but at 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.480 Dalmonti golf Course, and the head pro who I replaced 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.440 here actually was the head professional at the time at 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.800 Dalmani I. You know, I was just out of college 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.400 and trying to play a little and I needed to 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.360 make some money. So my family had moved over here 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:06.400 and seemed like the right place to get a job. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.640 So I worked for about a year with the company 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.680 at Delmani and then took off to continue to try 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.560 to pursue a playing career. Obviously, I had a lot 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.680 of weekends off, which is bad if you're trying to 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:22.320 play for a living. So at that point I decided 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:26.600 to come back and teach school. And I really enjoyed 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.480 teaching and you know, grade school, and I thought I 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.800 would do that and in the interim though, I didn't 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.160 have my teaching credentials, so I worked at a golf 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.520 course and that turned into going back to Delmani. But 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.400 I worked at Spanish Bay as well for a little bit, 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:41.960 so I kind of got my entry back into the 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:43.080 company in two thousand and three. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:44.920 How long did you try and play for? 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:51.440 You know, in my head about ten years on paper, 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.680 I you know, I probably played committed, fully committed about 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.000 four years. You know, I was on played on the 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.080 Canadian Tour the last two years I was playing, and 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.680 you know, I had some minor success here and there, 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.080 but probably had more success actually as a as a 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.600 PGA professional while I was working at Delmani. In terms 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.200 of the playing career as well, had a couple of 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:18.040 good seasons that turned into being able to play in 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.960 the PGA Championship in two thousand and nine and also 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.120 being part of the PGA Cup team in two thousand 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.600 and nine. So those were things I thought would never 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.400 you know, they far superseded any goals I had after 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:31.680 two thousand and three for playing. 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.880 Do you think the balance of you know, working and 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:40.079 playing actually helped you play that, Like, say in two 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:41.959 thousand and nine when we had a really good year. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.520 What really helped me actually was I think becoming was 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:52.880 being a parent. It kind of it created a little 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:54.800 bit of a It created kind of a situation where 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.560 I wasn't it wasn't the most important thing in the 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.880 world was how I played golf, and so you know, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.880 it was it was more I got I kind of 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.720 had that enjoyment again that I had been missing for 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.640 a while, And so when I would go out and play, 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.520 I would just I would have fun. There be I'd 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.800 have really good rounds, or i'd play just kind of eh. 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:20.520 But but the really good rounds. I just enjoyed playing 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.920 so much better and competing that I was able to 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.600 really shoot some lower scores. When I got got playing 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.880 well better than I I could shoot lower scores than 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.160 I did when I was actually playing full time. It 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:31.160 seemed like more often. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.360 The perspective of you know, with life, I think is 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.439 so big. I think about that all the time, as 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.920 like I got better a golf as I got older, 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.400 because it's just like maturity. Sometimes I think like it 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.240 might be smart to for some kids to wait to 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.240 go play pro, you know, and work a little while 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:51.440 because of the perspective. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.839 Well, I think so I think I think that you're 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:58.160 probably onto something there. I think, you know, technically and 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:02.960 physically obviously I was say I was better earlier, could 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.200 do more things. But you know, it's kind of staying 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.240 within it. It's that mental side of that game that 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.080 everybody talks about that. It's that maturing of that portion, 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.439 you know, where you know, you do one thing and 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.960 do it really well and you can still have some success. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.480 But to your point, yeah, a lot of these guys 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:21.000 should probably be waiting and if nothing else, finding an 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.160 appreciation for what life is really like versus coming out 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.520 of college and trying to go straight to playing on 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:30.600 tour and not really having any perspective on the reality 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.719 of what ninety nine point nine percent of people do. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.080 It's like a bad date playing on the PGA Tour 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:38.680 is a pretty good day. Yeah. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.400 Yeah, they still let you eat and food's pretty good. 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.640 Where'd you play college golf? That? 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.000 I played down in southern California at Division two school 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.000 cal State San Bernadino. I played two years there. I 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.480 took a little time to get going in college, So. 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:57.960 I nothing wrong with that, you know, it's just you know, 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.240 got to see the world. Life's a journy. 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.000 It is, it is, and I'm a traveler. 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:06.319 Yeah yeah, speaking of what were your best moments from 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.920 your playing career, you. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.679 Know, you know, leaving college, my last year at college, 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.520 I played some some really I started playing some really 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.679 good golf. I won a couple of tournaments leading into 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:24.319 our national championship. When we played Nationals, I had won 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.439 the tournament, the qualified tournament to get there by about 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.839 eight strokes, had some great you know, just started to 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.680 win tournaments by a lot of a lot of strokes, 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.160 you know, so that was really really kind of fun. 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.480 And then you know, later down the road, you know, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.760 I had some a couple of good, good scores, a 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.360 couple of good rounds, and on the Canadian Tour and 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:42.800 started to kind of get a little bit of a 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.280 feel for what I was doing out there, and had 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.240 some difficulty the next year, and so that kind of 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.360 led to me, you know, calling it calling it quits. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:58.120 You know. I I tied the course record in Delmanti 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.280 back in I want to say two thousd was an 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.319 eight shot, a sixty one with a boge on the 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.439 last hole, So you know, I was shooting for fifty nine. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:09.200 I was trying and then obviously, yeah, well it was 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:09.720 it was good. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.160 Sixty, Ok, it was good. 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.920 It was good. You know, there's not one golfer alive 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.920 that probably has ever been satisfied with the squarely shot 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.120 because I think about that round and the funny thing 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:22.680 is is as good as it is and no matter 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:27.280 what anybody I know, that's the first question they asked, Well, well, 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.160 how'd you make your bow here? Do you remember when 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:30.880 you were going to shoot fifty nine and you hit 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.120 it over by the bathroom And it's like, well, yeah, yeah, 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.720 I do, Yeah, pretty much, I do. I think about 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:38.520 it every single day. 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.240 I think that I don't hit on Like the best 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.520 part about golf. It's like you win a golf tournament 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.920 and you still are like, wow, I should have shot 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.680 so yeah, a couple of shots better. I left a 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.880 few out there. Yeah, that's that's fying. Like people always 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.480 want to make it easier, dub it down, but the 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:03.120 beauty of golf is like the unattainable perfection. Yeah, it's impossible. 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.680 Right, Well, what's a perfect score? Is eighteen under? 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:05.000 Right? 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.880 If you burdi in every hole? Maybe some people would 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.600 say par because par is what it's set at and 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:14.319 what you're expected to do. But I would say a 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:15.960 perfect score would be a birdy every hole. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.880 Your day to day here at Pebble's what's it like 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.600 being a head pro at Pebble What are your kind 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:26.000 of day to day operations? And maybe how is that 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.720 different than you know, your your peers around the area. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.520 A lot of coffee in a lot of hours. We 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.200 always joke we work half days, you know, because there's 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.600 you know, twelve hours is half a day with AnyWho 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:45.160 you know, day to day, there's no set routine. I 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.920 wouldn't say that. You meet a lot of interesting people, 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:50.760 and I think probably the best part about my job 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.480 is the excitement people have when they come in to 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:58.040 play Pebble Beach. It's, you know, it's such a unique 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.160 property and it's such a unique place, and that you know, 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.560 here we are, were one hundred years old this year, right, 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:08.640 we're celebrating our centennial. And the course for the most part, 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.160 you know, the layout's been pretty well untouched, right, you know, 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.800 maybe the extension of the way back when when it 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.440 first was built, of the of the eighteenth hole turning 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.280 into par five and just a couple of teas here 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.480 and there in some green complexes, but you know, it's 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.600 it's just a unique, unique place and everybody that's ever 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:30.120 played the game has been here, right, and people aspire 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.560 to get here and to play here, and that's a 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.800 great thing. And so our job really and the you know, 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.160 the pleasure, but also the difficulty is is making sure 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.200 that we live up to that standard that they've set 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:45.120 in their mind and meeting that expectation, if not generally 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.920 exceeding it. Right. So that's that's always the goal, and 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.680 so that's that's our biggest challenge, right, is that you 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.480 have to you got to think people have been saving 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.080 to come here. Golfers have And I think another thing 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.800 that's interesting about Pebble Beach too is when you if 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.560 you go into anywhere you go, I should say, I 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.360 don't know wherever it is. You go into a bowling alley, 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.760 go into your seven to eleven, whatever you want to 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.880 call it, and then say something about the word Pebble Beach. 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.080 People know whether they golf or not. You know, but 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.160 if I mean, yeah, Augusta, all those are great properties 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.200 and people know about them, but there's still more golf 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:26.000 centric type people, you know, maybe the masters, but but 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.800 you know, when you talk about Pebble Beach. Oh yeah, 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.600 my uncle wants to go. Even if they're not a golfer, 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:34.040 their uncle or their aunt or their anybody, they've heard 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.800 about it and they they're interested in it. So it's 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.480 a unique place that way. And so that's what we 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.760 experience on a day to day basis. People who aspire 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.720 to get here, and it's our job to make sure 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.920 that we meet their expectation. Well, I'll not meet, but 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:47.520 exceed them. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:51.920 Yeah, that excitement of somebody on the first t you know, 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.000 their first time. I just played it for my first 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:59.000 time the other day and it's pretty unbelievable. I you 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.760 watch it on TV for so long and you see, 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:05.920 you know, since it was a kid, and there's just 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.280 some stuff that you don't really expect to wow you 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.520 as much as it does when you watch it so much. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.960 Like you know, the TV, I think almost like it 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.400 flattens the property. It doesn't show how much movement there 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.240 is in the property. And I mean like those cliffs 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:25.720 are something else. Yeah, what would you say is your 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:31.880 favorite stretch on the course? Maybe underrated stretch, not the 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.280 one that everybody's going to go to. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.480 Well, if you're saying underrated in terms of difficulty, right 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.360 would I would say twelve, thirteen and fourteen is very 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.080 to say it's underrated. I don't know in terms of 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.840 the difficulty part, but you know, generally people point to eight, nine, 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.680 ten is the that real difficult stretch. But you know, 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.720 I think twelve thirteen, fourteen is is there's a lot 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.800 of teeth in that, especially when we start talking about 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.600 you know, the US Open, which we have coming up 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.520 here eighty days away. I think, but oh I didn't 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.760 know that. Yeah, yeah, well we decided to go ahead 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.920 and host it. We're gonna we're gonna go forward with it. 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:10.640 So yeah, just this just in we might as well 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.480 host it. You know, that's gonna happen. 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.159 So okay, it's kind of nice that matched up with 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:15.080 your one hundred years. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.080 It just seems to have worked, right Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.680 that that's a special relationship with ESJ and so that's 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.960 that's a great thing for us and that we shared. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:28.360 So that's fantastic. But to your point, you know, thirteen 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.600 from that back tee, there's a there's a tea back 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.280 there that into the wind. I mean, it's hard to 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:36.000 almost get it past that cross bunker, which seems, you know, 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.000 obsolete when you're on the normal tea box. Yeah, and 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.119 then you know twelve, I mean that's such a hard 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:44.400 part three. It's such a narrow front to back hole 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.520 with that giant bunker on the front left that you 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.239 just how do you get what shot do you hit 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:50.960 in there? And still try to hold that green. I 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.520 mean two thirds of it is really difficult to get 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.280 it close. And then you have you know, then you 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.359 go to obviously to fourteen, which is just a beast 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.439 of a par five. And so that's a great stretch 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:02.880 right there. 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.959 Yeah, it is. It's an awesome stretch. I think, like 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:10.120 one of the things I've I've I couldn't believe it 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.120 was how small the greens are out here. Yeah, It's 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.280 like you see it on TV. You can tell like 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.640 when the best players in the world are missing green. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.159 But then you get out and you're having hit the 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.679 shots and you're like, oh my god, this is tiny. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:24.040 Yeah. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.719 If I miss left, I mean it's really deep bunker. 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:28.800 If I missed right, I'm in a really deep bunker. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.600 Having played in a major championship, yeah, from a day 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.440 to day course set up to a major, what would 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:41.840 you estimate the differences in shots of difficulty. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.160 Well, I mean I think it's I mean, it's it's 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:49.359 really it's an unfair comparison when you talk about a 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:54.520 regular day versus a major championship. I mean, obviously when 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.840 you look out here and we've narrowed the fair ways 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.760 tremendously already, so right now, yeah, it you'll get some 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.040 of that experience. But the rough isn't at its you know, 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.120 it's resort height. It's not at it's you know, three 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:07.439 and a half for it. I mean, it's just not 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:09.359 grown out to that extent that it's going to be 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.720 as penal as it will be in the tournament. 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:12.159 You know. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.359 But what we have and what we're lucky and I 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:17.560 and quite frankly, I don't know that anybody's actually done this. 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.080 I think it's the first time is that in the 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.960 in the last year, we've had an AT and T, 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.199 you know, or actually you start back with the US Amateur, 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.040 but we had a US Amateur, then we have you know, 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.520 the PGA champions Tour out here in September, and then 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.320 we host the first excuse me, the AT and T, 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.639 and now the US Open. So in a stretch of 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.199 less than a year. You're really hitting on a lot 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.679 of different types of events, but all major you know, 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.000 championships and professional championships, and so the reason I bring 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.800 that up is all four of those. The golf course 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:53.479 is different in terms of setup and how it's played 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:57.280 and the way it's laid out. And of course, you know, 0:19:57.760 --> 0:19:59.760 it's still a resort course, so on a daily basis 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:03.160 you get great conditions, a great golf course, but much 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:06.720 more user friendly than than your major championships. 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.200 Especially the US AM Open. 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.359 Yeah, yeah, the Am was a little it was it 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.280 was we didn't narrow in the fairways there, but it 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.400 was a lot more intense with the rough in the firmness. 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:21.680 But man, the Open, that's that's just a whole different world. Yeah. 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.280 I was standing out there. I played okay yesterday, but 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:29.320 I was thinking I was like God, with five inch rough, 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:31.959 I don't know if I could even get it around 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:35.000 out here. 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How will the weather 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:06.840 be different from say the at and T year and 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:12.919 year out, which is in February, versus the US open 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:14.360 in June. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.680 Yeah, you know, that's a good question. The likelihood of 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:22.639 rain is obviously almost null, right, It's just it rarely rains. 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.560 We generally, I say that, of course it's sprinkled today, right, So, 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.439