1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Hey, ba fam, it's your girl, Mandy Money. Welcome back 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: to another episode of the show. This is a special one. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: This is one that's probably been a couple of years 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: in the making, at least a year in the making. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: Ever since the day that I realized Jamila Suffrant, friend 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: of the show, host of the Journey to Launch podcast, 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: author of Your Journey to Financial Freedom book, that she 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: is just one of three incredible powerhouse sisters. And I 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: was like, I have to get you and your sister's 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: on Brown ambition. We have to talk about this sisterhood. 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: We have to talk about y'all's journey as sisters, as entrepreneurs, 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: as all the things. And she said yes. They all 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: said yes, and we made it work. All three of 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: the sisters showed up. We have Jamila Suffrant, of course, 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: we also have her little sister, Shana McGregor, and the 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: third sister, Ivanni Manning. Each of these women is carving 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: out their own incredible path and together they are reading 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: of finding what resilience, entrepreneurship and family support look like. Jamila, 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: who is the big sister of the trio, is a 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: financial freedom expert. As I mentioned, she's the author of 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: Your journey to financial freedom. She's inspired people everywhere to 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: dream bigger than their cubicle and take control of their money. 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: While Shana is the creative genius. She's a professional dancer 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: who's turned wellness coach and is now building her brand 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: inward Space while pursuing her master's in social work. And 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: Imani listen, it's hard because we don't have smellvision. I 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: can't put you back at the event where Jamila had 28 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: her book launch, where I tasted Imani's food for the 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: first time, but it's so good. Imani is a culinary 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: queen who's serving up gourmet meals for kids while running 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: her own catering business. We're going to talk about their journeys, 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: how they've overcome challenges, how they've embraced pivots and supported 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: each other along the way, from financial wins to career shifts, 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: and lessons in giving yourself grace. This conversation is packed 35 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: with wisdom that you don't want to miss. So grab 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: your coffee, glass of wine, grab a basket of laundry, 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: whatever y'all do on your own time when you're listening 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: to the show. That's your business, not my business. Okay, 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: but let's dive on in. Hey, hey va, fam, I 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: am your host, Mandy Woodrif Santos. Welcome back to the 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: Brown Table at Brown Ambition. I am thrilled to get 42 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: these ladies back together. I feel like I have brought 43 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: back like Destiny's child, you know, like in a way 44 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: and like three powerful women who started all together, grew 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: up together and have launched their own successful careers. And Jamila, 46 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: you sort of started it all. So I'll introduce you first, 47 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: or you know her because she has been a multi 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: time guest on Brown Ambition. We love Jamila, author of 49 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: Journey to Launch, also the same names of her podcast 50 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: she's been doing since twenty seventeen. 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: Wait, so, Mandy, the book is your Journey to Financial 52 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: Freedom and the podcast is Journey to Launch. 53 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: And now why did you do that? Why didn't you 54 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: just it's more like your fault than my fault, is 55 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: what I feel like. But Okay, the book is. 56 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: Right behind me to financial freedom, and. 57 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: This is true, but I can only see a little corner. Okay, Okay, 58 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: I took a risk and I failed. It's fine. Be 59 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: a family loves it. That's fine, all right. Your Journey 60 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: to Financial Freedom, which has been out for you just 61 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: had your year celebration, right, your year anniversary in December? 62 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, a little bit over a year now. 63 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, she got a toddler book. But I know how 64 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: hard you worked on that, and I'm so proud of you. 65 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: But Journey to Launch the podcast where you talk about 66 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: how to find your financial freedom and how to Yeah, 67 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: you talk about your your guak, was it your glack budget. 68 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: Black levels, your block levels? You want to live Yep. 69 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: It's such a great book. Like if you are someone 70 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: who like maybe you even have a base level of 71 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: financial knowledge, but you want to retire early, you want 72 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: to figure out how to find your own financial freedom. 73 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: Love that book. But it wasn't until your book launch 74 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: that I put the connections together that Shane McGregor is 75 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 1: your sister. Shane and I had met at a separate event, 76 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: but that's when I started to see like these were 77 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: not just like, oh this is my little sister. You 78 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: were the MC for the book launch. You did a 79 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: fantastic job. I was like, is she also famous? Like 80 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: I don't understand. Then I started talking to you about 81 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: your background. You come from a dance background, a life coach, 82 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: you have a life you had a life coach practice. 83 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to get an update now because I know 84 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: in this original interview that y'all did together on Janila's podcast, 85 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: you talked about launching that you had just started, and 86 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm excited to get the lowdown on that. And then 87 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: at the same event, you just can smell like the 88 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: just like I mean, it's not a huge venue, but 89 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: like you can look straight to the back and I 90 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: just see this gorgeous spread of food and this is 91 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: not a crue de tey. This ain't like some ranch 92 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: dip and a chip and some cucumber slices. This was delicious. 93 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: You had some seafood there, there was all I like, 94 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: my proteins, the most amazing food. And then I'm like, 95 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: who made this food? Jamila just casually says, oh, my sister, 96 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm Annie. She's just like, I don't know a Micheline 97 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: Award winning chef. 98 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: Yes, no, keep it. 99 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: And then I didn't have as much time to talk 100 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: to you, but I just left that event thinking like, well, damn, 101 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: these three women from the same family are all incredible 102 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: in their own right. And that's when I started to 103 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: think about having all on the show. But for whatever reason, 104 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: it took me this long to finally make it happen. 105 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: But welcome. What do I call you? What's your family name? 106 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: You have a family name? What's y'all's? Like? 107 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: I mean, we. 108 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: Can, we can go through our family tree a bit, 109 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: but you can just I don't know, I know thinks. 110 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: You can get messy. Okay, I got some that are no 111 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: longer steps like, it's fine. 112 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 5: Let's she here the maid up name that you came 113 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 5: up with. You look like you have one, Mandy. Mandy 114 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 5: looks like she had one. Yeah, she looked. 115 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: Like she have one in the but she just don't 116 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 4: want to say it. 117 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: And what would the band be called? The band? It's 118 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: got to have three in it, the Triple Threat, the 119 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: Triple threat sisters, the Triple Threats. Yeah, I like that, 120 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: all right, Jamila, I want to start with you tell 121 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: me the story of your journey to financial freedom and 122 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: building your podcast. And when did you like suck your 123 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: sisters into this life of entrepreneurship. Where how has that been? 124 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: Because my siblings don't listen to me at all, so. 125 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: I'm well, you know they listen when Yeah? No, So okay, 126 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: I think we should go first to the family tree 127 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: and then we'll quickly go to like my backstory, because 128 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: I do want to highlight them and all the amazing 129 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: things they're doing. But and so let's see, Shana and 130 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: I share the same mom. That's how we're sisters, and 131 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: so it's just the two of us for my mom. 132 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: Then I'mani and I share the same dad. And it's 133 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 2: so funny because I'mani. I was you know, I always 134 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: forget how many siblings we know of, So. 135 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: I was writing, how. 136 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: Right, So I, Bonnie and I have the same dad, 137 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: and but all of us together, there are seven of 138 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: us that we know of that share the same dad. 139 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: And so that's kind of like how we're all siblings. 140 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: And then the way we work as a family though, 141 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: Imani and Shana are just their siblings just but you know, 142 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: that's how we work as a family. So they're sisters too. 143 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: And I'm the second oldest of my dad. In general, 144 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: I'm just the biggest sister. I'm the big sister to everyone. 145 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I never really enough there now. 146 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm big sis. 147 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: You know. 148 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: I was born on the beautiful island of Jamaica, and 149 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: I came here to the United States, to New York, 150 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: specifically when I was just under two years old. And 151 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: so ultimately, I think what was amazing about growing up 152 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: and kind of having the Jamaican background and roots is 153 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: that because my father, if you didn't figure out yet, 154 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: was Jamaican and he was in Jamaica. Most of my 155 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: siblings from him were all in Jamaica, and so I 156 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: used to go back every summer and spend summers there, 157 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: and that's how I met my siblings. And luckily, even 158 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: though my father wasn't that involved in my life, my 159 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: mom and his family were very close, so she would 160 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 2: be able to send me and that's kind of how 161 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: I got this connection with my father's side of the 162 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: family and my siblings where it really feels like we 163 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: grew up together because I saw them every summer, like 164 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: I was the big sister who was in America that 165 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: came down and all this stuff. And then Shane and I, 166 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: of course we were just in New York together with 167 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: my mom. But ultimately I was always like independent, wanted 168 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: to live life on my own terms. And then you know, 169 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: life happens where you realize you need to work to 170 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: get money. And as a chew Jamaican, I started working 171 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: from the age of fourteen and have been working ever 172 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: since and did all the right things, went to college, 173 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: bought a condo when I was pretty young, right out 174 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: of college, got a full time job. But ultimately I 175 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: know why That's not what I wanted to do for 176 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: the rest of my life. I wanted freedom. And it 177 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: wasn't until my early thirties that I said to myself, 178 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: on this long commute to work to this cubicle that 179 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: I did not enjoy or love. I needed something different, 180 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: and it prompted me to search for ways to quit 181 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: my job find financial freedom, and I found podcasts blogs 182 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: talking about financial independence. Was like, how can I get 183 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 2: on that train? 184 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 3: How can I learn more? 185 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: And I started to learn over the years, eventually started 186 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: my own blog and podcasts Journey to Launch, where I 187 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: was documenting how I was going to quit my job 188 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: and retire early, which eventually led to me quitting my 189 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: job early, writing a book that hopefully is helping people 190 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: do the same think about their life, life bigger than 191 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: the car and the cubicle, about what they really want. 192 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: And that's kind of like where I am today. And 193 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: then with my sisters, they can tell you about their journey, 194 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: but honestly, I think they've always also been entrepreneurs at 195 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: heart and free spirits, so it doesn't surprise me that 196 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: they're in the fields that they're in. 197 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: I love it. Can y'all tell me as as Jamila 198 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: is telling her story, because y'all are little sisters. What 199 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: was it like? And y'all have such different perspectives? Imani, 200 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: you're watching this happen from Jamaica, Shana, you're here next 201 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: to her. What was your impression? Were you like, I 202 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with Jamila, Like she don't 203 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: quit her job. I don't know what's going on. Were 204 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: you worried? Was it like, oh yeah, I always knew? 205 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: What was that like for y'all? 206 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 4: I'll happen. 207 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 6: I think I'm really up. 208 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 7: Jamilla and I have an age graph that over ten 209 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 7: years now. I feel like we're best the buds were 210 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 7: growing up, She's like, who is this little girl in that? 211 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 6: I'm trying to live my best life. So I feel 212 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 6: like growing up. 213 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 7: She was always I'm gonna to her O Lord a 214 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 7: little bit, but she was always like a role model 215 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 7: to me. I saw her as a really cool older 216 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 7: sister that was just doing incredible things. 217 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 6: I wasn't surprised before her job because she told us 218 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 6: she follows. 219 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 7: She was like starting to fall asleep on a wheel 220 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 7: while she was pregnant, and we were like, Okay, I 221 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 7: think some changes need to be like your safety is 222 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 7: that probably shouldn't happened. But you know, our family was 223 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 7: always money conscious. So I feel like the reason why 224 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 7: peoplere like you listened to your older sister. I mean, 225 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 7: granted she went to college, graduated, and bought a Yes, 226 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 7: I'm listening. What did she do and how could I 227 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 7: do exactly that rented? She took the perfect route. I 228 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 7: took a very creative route, so it was strikingly different. 229 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 7: But there was something that she did that worked. And 230 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 7: I think virgamilla that a lot of us used in 231 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 7: different ways as a discipline, and I feel like that 232 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 7: discipline and motivation can take you anywhere. And I saw 233 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 7: that she was so focused, and it also saw that 234 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 7: she was willing to take risk. It's not easy to 235 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 7: have a really cushioning corporate job and then decide to 236 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 7: leave because you are excited about something and you're allowing 237 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 7: yourself to pivot. So I think I saw that and 238 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 7: I've been able to take parts of that in my 239 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 7: own journey of being able to take risk but also 240 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 7: knowing when to be patient and to delay gratification, and 241 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 7: then also knowing when it's time to pivot. And I've 242 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 7: taken pieces of those into my own. 243 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 6: Journey as well. 244 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: What about you, Aimani, Yeah, thanks for sharing that. Shana. 245 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think me and Shana we have 246 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 5: the same view, but just from a different angle, like 247 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 5: and even being in Jamaica, I think he was probably 248 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 5: ten times more exciting at Shana because you and Shamaica, 249 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 5: you're growing up in the country and your sister and 250 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 5: at the time she was doing that gymnastics stuff, so 251 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 5: she will flip for us. 252 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: And we will think it was fool. Yeah. 253 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 6: We think it was the. 254 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: One of those kids who is like and now welcome 255 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: to the Jamila Show. Yeah. 256 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: I did gymnastic so when I was younger. So when 257 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: I go to Jamaica, they were. 258 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: Like, do a cartwel. 259 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 5: So, so yeah, I would say like from then it 260 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 5: was much more like it was like star quality, like 261 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 5: you know what. Yeah, even one time I wanted to 262 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 5: cart wheel two. I'm gonna do something cartwheel two. So 263 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 5: I think she always like I don't think sometimes she 264 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 5: purposely knowing that she's set in the tone for everybody, 265 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 5: but it comes so unnatural. So it's so easy that 266 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 5: Shana said, like, why wouldn't you listen? Why would not 267 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 5: not take an answer? 268 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: Advice? 269 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 5: And it's like it's right in front of me. So 270 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 5: she's always been that it's not new. It's I don't 271 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 5: think it's new to us. 272 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Not that's so nice to hear. I mean, so, I 273 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: guess y'all don't have that jealous sibling bone like I 274 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: did because I was an older sister and my little 275 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: brother always nipping at my heels and I'm like, no, 276 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. There's a bit of like competitiveness, 277 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: but you know, I've worked through that in therapy. I'm 278 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: glad that you guys are really happy for your sists, 279 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: but i'mani Shana. Y'all developed, like Shana, your career in dance, 280 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: it didn't go the way that you planned. I mean, 281 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: you were like a real dancer, professional dancer. You thought 282 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: you would like work for a company, potentially Alvin Ailey 283 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: or something like that. So but the last time y'all spoke, 284 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: you were like you had made peace with that and 285 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: you had seen what this new chapter could hold for you. 286 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: So what did that At the time a few years 287 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: ago you were launching your life coaching business and maybe 288 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: some other side hustles. I'm not sure, but can you 289 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: catch us up. 290 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm still dancing, so I think right now, I just. 291 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 7: Really talk it up to you and I talk to 292 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 7: people about how exciting it is to be more my 293 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 7: passionate and that it's okay to go after these different 294 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 7: parts of ourselves and you don't have to put your 295 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 7: self in a box. You may not do the thing 296 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 7: the way you thought you were going to do it, 297 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 7: and every season you're not going to do everything one 298 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 7: hundred percent. 299 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 6: But there's ways to enforce everything. 300 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 7: So this past weekend I actually flew to Detroit with 301 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 7: Ali to teach with the Aley Experience, and I was 302 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 7: a teacher. 303 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 6: So Aley has a lot of different parts to it. 304 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 7: When you think of Ali, everyone immediately thinks of Alvin 305 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 7: Ali American Dance Theater, which is the company, but there's 306 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 7: also the Aley extension, which mister Ali always believed that 307 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 7: dance was for the people and should be brought back 308 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 7: to the people. So they have parts of the organization 309 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 7: that's really heavy in teaching and education. So I would 310 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 7: say that I both dance and I do the wellness part, 311 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 7: which wellness is inclusive and somatic and dance. In terms 312 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 7: of dance, I've been performing, so I decided to really 313 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 7: base around project based work and do projects that speak 314 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 7: to me. So it's not as full time as a 315 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 7: company that I'm going to be with all the time, 316 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 7: but if there are projects that I can perform with 317 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 7: throughout the year, then I'll do that. Along with that, 318 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 7: I've been teaching and choreographing a bit more so the 319 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 7: teaching side is what brought me to Detroit with the 320 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 7: Alien experience, and I also have shows that are premiering 321 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 7: this weekend because I've been choreographing on the Extension Dancers 322 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 7: for the last eight weeks and that has been very exciting. 323 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 7: Like when my younger self, I wanted to dance and 324 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 7: I wanted to tour, and now I'm touring as an instructor, 325 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 7: so you just don't know what that can look like 326 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 7: when you're younger. And then I'm still doing the coaching. 327 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 7: I've given it a name and I called my wellness 328 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 7: community and brand Inwards Space, and it's just really designed 329 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 7: to help people slow down, reconnect with themselves, and to 330 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 7: live lives of joy and intention. 331 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 6: But along with that, I decided to go back to school, 332 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 6: so I'm. 333 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 7: Getting my masses of social work because I wanted to 334 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 7: add therapy. 335 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 6: To my services as well, alongside coaching. 336 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 7: I think coaching is absolutely wonderful, and there's a space 337 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 7: for therapy and coaching. So the power of pivot and 338 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 7: allowing yourself to expand there's been a lot of shifts 339 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 7: since the last episode. I listened to it right before this, 340 00:16:58,840 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 7: and I was like. 341 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: What did you think? Were you like? Oh, man, she 342 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: didn't even know what. 343 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 7: I was proud of myself, and I think I've done 344 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 7: so much work to not only think about the points 345 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 7: where I didn't do enough, but also to look at 346 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 7: something and be like, wow, look at that version of myself. 347 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 6: I'm so proud. She was so ambitious, so hungry. 348 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 7: I mean, she was talking about being a millionaire by thirty. 349 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 6: What I thought about is that we. 350 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 7: Don't always know how to different versions of ourselves lead 351 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 7: up to what we're doing now. And I think every 352 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 7: chapter of my twenties has prepared me for this version 353 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 7: of my late twenties that's doing all the things that 354 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 7: I'm really excited about. But I needed to go through 355 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 7: all of those distant versions. 356 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 6: So when people see me. 357 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 7: Speak now, they're like, wow, how are you to show 358 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 7: up in this way? Is because I was a finish 359 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 7: disruptive for so many years. I'm a dance teacher, I'm 360 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 7: a choreographer. I did my first pan last week or 361 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago on a woman in Wellness panel. 362 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 7: All of those versions of me were able to make 363 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 7: me stand the place I am now. So I was 364 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 7: very excited and proud of myself watching that back. 365 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I start, Mandy, I just have to step 366 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: in because I just want to big up and highlight 367 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: some of Shane's accomplishments. If you listen to the first 368 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: or my on my podcast, you know this, but just 369 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: in case this is your first time. So Shana went 370 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: to the famed LaGuardia High School. I mean, this is 371 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: like a big deal, like right to audition to get in. 372 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: It's fame, right, the musical or the show was based 373 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: on that high school. But then she went to fordom 374 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: through and for college and the album Ali program, Right, 375 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: that's where you you graduated from? So yeah, yes, and 376 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: she she mentioned she does this work with Aley, but she. 377 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: Was also mentioned in New York Times recently right for. 378 00:18:59,560 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 6: Yes, what. 379 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 7: They were doing like a day a day in the 380 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 7: life and once people take my class. 381 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 6: So I teach twice a week at the Alien Extension. 382 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 7: I teach contemporary classes, and I will say, once people 383 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 7: take my class, once they're hooked, because it's not just 384 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 7: about movement, it's about the space I create. And I 385 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 7: think we all need a space to underwind, to feel, 386 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 7: and dance is such an incredible place to do that. 387 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 7: And as we get older, we create so much more 388 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 7: shame around our bodies, about trying new things, around being 389 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 7: around people who maybe are strangers. So I try to 390 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 7: create a safe space in my classes for people to 391 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 7: just explore and express themselves. 392 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: See yeah, I just wanted to make sure we said that. 393 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 1: Yes, are you says the energy Yes? All right, da fan, 394 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break more with my 395 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: conversation with the Triple threat Sistas. Jamilus tu Front, Shana McGregor, 396 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: and I'mani Manning. Let me return. It's Mandy Money and 397 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: we are back. Let's get back to the conversation with 398 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: the Triple threat Sisters. Themselves, Jamila Imani and Shana, because yeah, 399 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean that's so I do know that sibling relationships. 400 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm fortunate to have two siblings that I am super 401 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: close with, a younger brother and an older sister, And 402 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: I think all the time how lucky we are, and 403 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: not that we didn't work for it, because I think 404 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: we had over the course of our childhoods and early like, 405 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: we had so many opportunities to just be like, hmm, 406 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: now I'm gonna go like figure myself out other places. 407 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: But we came back to each other again and again, 408 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: and we've been through so much and there's just nothing 409 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: like a sibling, like you really see someone through so 410 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: many stages of life and then you get to see 411 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: there and like, you know what little baby Shana look like, 412 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: probably because you were like ten when she was born. 413 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: You're like, girl, I used to wipe your butt and 414 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: now you're out here. 415 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: Fun fact, I've never changed a diaper. I literally was 416 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: that sister, Like, who is this little kid? 417 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: You're like, man, the way I make my five year 418 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: old fetch me diapers and wipes all that, he's not 419 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: actually doing it, but I will make him. I will 420 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: see how long I can sit on the couch without moving. 421 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: How many parents are run for me? I love it 422 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: just the good vibes. Okay, So i'mani your food. Have 423 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: I mentioned how delicious it is? And I only had 424 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: that one experience, But I am that kind of person. 425 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: Food holds a lot of memory for me, and I 426 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: believe like at my wedding, I wanted the food to 427 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: be so delicious, And to this day, they still talk 428 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: about my wedding, but the food. I think that's why 429 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: they remember it the same way I remember your book 430 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: events so vividly. I think the food is tied to that. 431 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: So can you just to like give you your flowers? 432 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: Can you talk about your journey, because it's not easy 433 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: to make a career out of cooking, especially when you 434 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: are wanting to move to a different country. So catch 435 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: me up on what the past few years have been 436 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: like for you building this career. 437 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: The past few years. 438 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 5: So now I'm I work in the educational system where 439 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 5: I still cook, but I get to, you know, acknowledge 440 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 5: and be around kids, and that's something that I've always 441 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 5: wanted to do. Like how can I like pair food 442 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 5: with being around kids? And I feel like I got 443 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 5: locked up and I'm in a great job right now 444 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 5: that where we give kids like restaurants style quality food 445 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 5: and you know, kids will give us your their most 446 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: honest opinion. 447 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 4: The kid won't lie to you about the food. And 448 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 4: I will tell you. 449 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 5: That feeding kids might be a little bit harder than adults. 450 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: It is, oh yeah, for sure. 451 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I feel like it helps you to It 452 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 5: helps you grow in a way which people be. 453 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 4: Like sometimes it's hard to understand, but you can. 454 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 5: Make addition, feel like you don't did your best, and 455 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 5: a kid would look at you and be like, chef 456 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 5: our money. They're saying it, like what, But then you 457 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 5: realize that kids. I feel like kids hold you to 458 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 5: a higher accountability than grown ups. 459 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 4: So if you give them a quality. 460 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 5: Food Monday, they want it Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. There 461 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 5: is no excuse because they don't know the dynamic of 462 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 5: a kitchen. So you're giving them excuse is like, yeah, 463 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 5: they're not trying to hear that. So I feel like 464 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 5: I kind of locked up on pairing something that I 465 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 5: really like, which is cooking. And I've always had a 466 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 5: love for kids, but they don't want to be a teacher. 467 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 5: So now I'm kind of I feel like I'm just 468 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 5: in a good spot with it. 469 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, that is such a green flag for a 470 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: human when they say they love kids because of course 471 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: they're the best. 472 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 4: And also I was I mean, I mean, not to 473 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 4: cut you. You could say that a lot when you 474 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 4: don't have kids, say your own. So I think that's why. 475 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, I have them and I still like 476 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: them shockingly enough. So wait, talk about because my friend 477 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: worked for a nonprofit what was it something about a 478 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: rabbit or something in New York and it was gore 479 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: made lunches for school. Is that similar to what you're 480 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: doing now? 481 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 4: Yes? Similar Oh similarly. 482 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: So how does that work? Because like I'm just talking about, 483 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: I had the square pizza when I was growing up. 484 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: You had your fruit cocktail, dry hamburgers, like that was 485 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: my vibe. 486 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 5: But I think I think what our main goal is 487 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 5: is just trying to have kids understand food a little 488 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 5: bit more, because I feel like when you understand food, 489 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 5: you tend to eat better. Like most kids. You you 490 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 5: have kids that are shockingly. 491 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 4: Like they don't know what a broccoli is, so. 492 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 5: You you're you're feeding and teaching at the same time. 493 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 5: And then like kids like my cafeteria sometime, Like I 494 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 5: could would be like, Chef, I don't want vegis, and 495 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 5: I'd be like, hey, try it and make you see 496 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 5: better for real, and they go eat it. 497 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: Oh it make it hair grow like stuff like that. 498 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 5: Just like just educate on them about like certain stuff. 499 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 5: It is like a good feeling while doing the same 500 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 5: quality of cooking that I enjoy to do, Like the 501 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 5: level of cooking is not dropping, but I get to 502 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 5: dabble in a little different environment, which. 503 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: Is pretty cool. Customers every day, So do you work 504 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: at one school or do you serve many schools? 505 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 5: So yeah, so now I serve like three schools, so 506 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 5: three outside schools and then on in house school. So 507 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 5: like even yesterday their menu was I think they had teriokey, chicken, garlic, rice, 508 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 5: and spicy broccoli. Like those are the stuff that the 509 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 5: kids they get on their menu. 510 00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, deliver to work from home moms, right, and. 511 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 5: To my kids school so they can know that might 512 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 5: be a business venture, you know, just. 513 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: To get food made for your family for a minute 514 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: when you're working on my bed. 515 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, we did high We had 516 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: someone who would just bake us or make us be 517 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: bulk meals for the week. 518 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: But I want my money to also share. 519 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 2: So I know you do that that's like your main thing, 520 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 2: but you also still use. 521 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 5: And yeah, I still do my catering on the side 522 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 5: and as straight I would saying like with me, like 523 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 5: I've grant myself that space to feel like balancing. 524 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: Boat working and just the too. 525 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 5: I work for a black owned company, So what I 526 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 5: do is I look at the company that I work 527 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 5: at and like, you know, put pointers towards my own 528 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 5: business because I am a black owned business too while 529 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 5: working for a black owned business, so you know, it 530 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 5: helps to balance out boat gigs. Like I have a 531 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 5: catering coming up for like two hundred people, so you know, 532 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 5: I do a little on and off here and there, 533 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 5: and it still keeps me in tune with my dishes 534 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 5: because I'm not changing the quality of cooking. 535 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: So from gourmet right into gourmet. 536 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: And correct me if I'm wrong. But like in restaurant business, 537 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: because I've watched the bear, so like I'm an expert now, 538 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: and you work so late, like you're there from like 539 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: four pm and you'll be there like maybe even earlier, 540 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: but like super late. So does the school environment give 541 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: you better hours, like are you able to? 542 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 4: I mean, so that was part of the reason why 543 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 4: I took the job. It was so the job. 544 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 5: Still allows me to find time to not neglect my business, 545 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 5: but still learning more stuff at the same time. 546 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 4: So it's a win win situation. 547 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 5: You're making an income and I'm learning and it's fine 548 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 5: tuning me for my side gigs. So that was honestly 549 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 5: one of the main reason. 550 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 4: Why I took the job working there of the. 551 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: Hours, I love that, and I mean for you too, 552 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: Shanea and Jamila, like, just to acknowledge that. I mean, 553 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: there has been times in the past year when I've 554 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: been like, should I be on LinkedIn looking for one 555 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: of these good like ninety five? Because I'm talking about 556 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: stability is I mean, even though no job, I don't 557 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: believe any job is stable. They can all obviously what 558 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: we're going through right now, even the government ain't good 559 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: government jobs anymore. But I think that's so wise, and 560 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: you're right. I think if we just have realistic pictures 561 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: of what entrepreneurship can look like in this country, we 562 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: need more of that, right Jamila. 563 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, listen, I'm with you, Mandy. 564 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like For me, I love my 565 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: freedom and flexibility my goal. You know, I never thought 566 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: that I wanted I never wanted to take over the 567 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: world with journey to launch or my business. It's not 568 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: that I have big aspirations because you guys who know me, no, 569 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: I dream big and I want things. But I think 570 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: from the stage and place I am in my life, 571 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: especially my kids' ages, like, I'm happy with where I am, 572 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: but more stability would be great, right, And being an entrepreneur, 573 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: you just don't know when things are coming in and 574 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 2: it's a lot of eat what you kill, and there's 575 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: no boss. So even though I hated having a boss 576 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: and hated someone telling me what to do, sometimes when 577 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: someone told you what to do, it alleviated the responsibility 578 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: of having to figure things out. And so I would say, 579 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: while I love being an entrepreneur and I do think 580 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: that it's a great vehicle to have the time freedom 581 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: that we want, it adds a lot more pressure and 582 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: stress when you need income to kind of live the 583 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: life you want live the guac lifestyle that I talk about, 584 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: because you know, if I didn't want to maybe spend 585 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: as much money, I could just chill and be okay. 586 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: But I do want to do certain things with my 587 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: kids and live this life, and so income is a requirement. 588 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: And I think one of the things that I have, 589 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: you know, grown to just accept over time, is that 590 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: no matter where you are, whether you're listening to this 591 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: or watching and you're an entrepreneur or you have a 592 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: stable job, the other side always looks a little appealing 593 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: for the benefits of the other side, But then when 594 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: you're on the other side, you're looking at it like, hey, 595 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: I kind of want that too, And so I love 596 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: especially for OURMANI which is why I'm so proud of 597 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: her too for finding the stability because for so long 598 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: she didn't have like she didn't have like a stable 599 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: she can get benefits, and stability is that she's able 600 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: to have that and have time to pursue her entrepreneurial 601 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: things where and Shana's same thing. I know she's working 602 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: towards more stability, but she's also still able to pursue 603 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: her you know, passions and all the things that she 604 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 2: can do. 605 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: So I just I think talking about entrepreneurship and. 606 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: Being real about it is important because it's not just 607 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: all you know, free time and doing nothing like there 608 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: is a lot that goes into it that people need 609 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: to be aware of before they make the leap. 610 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: All right, ba fam, We're going to take a quick 611 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: break more with my conversation with the Triple Threat sisters 612 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: jamilas tou Front, Shana McGregor, and I'mani Manning when we return. 613 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: All right, ba fam, it's Mandy Money and we are back. 614 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: Let's get back to the conversation with the Triple Threat 615 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: sisters themselves, Jamila, Imani and Shana one hundred percent. My 616 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: little brother actually is a filmmaker and he works nine 617 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: to five as head of sales for AI software company, 618 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: and he always jokes with me where he's like, yeah, Mandy, 619 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: I just did what you did. But I decided I 620 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: wanted to like have a house and more like I 621 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: wanted to be able to afford things. Where I sort 622 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: of had that starving artist's mentality as I was a 623 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: writer journalist and then I did have a stable career, 624 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: but then when I went entrepreneur, I was like, all right, 625 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: let's go. 626 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 7: I stopped even using that. I was like, Okay, I 627 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 7: don't want to call myself a starving artist. 628 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 6: But that means that sometimes you have to. 629 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 7: Make choices and this is one of the biggest choices 630 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 7: why I decided to go back to school. I was like, 631 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 7: I want more stability as I think and think about 632 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 7: my thirties and the life I want to live, the 633 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 7: freedom of the flexibility. Maybe I do want to have 634 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 7: a stable job alone with everything else, or just build 635 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 7: a career for myself so that I can do the 636 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 7: things that I want to do. And that's what really 637 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 7: propelled me. 638 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 6: To go back to school. 639 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 7: Also to see dance more than just performing, but to 640 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 7: bring in the teaching and the choreographing, which can give you. 641 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 6: More opportunities and more money. 642 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 7: I remember I choreographed for the Daily School last summer 643 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 7: and when they sent me the check, I was like, oh, okay, 644 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 7: so choreographic as we're tied, got it. So I think 645 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 7: it's giving yourself opportunity and permission to expand. 646 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 6: And my younger self was like, I'm not a choreographer, 647 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 6: and I. 648 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 7: Think we put ourselves in boxes so easily because we 649 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 7: think if I do that, then I'm no longer this 650 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 7: and what did you could do this and that? So 651 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 7: I think it was giving myself opportunity to go back 652 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 7: to school. When I tell people that They're. 653 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 6: Like, oh, you'r MFA, and I'm like, no, I'm getting 654 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 6: my maths and social work. 655 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 7: And that does mean that for these next two years 656 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 7: things look a little different. But once I graduately, I 657 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 7: already know, Okay, this is the career path that I 658 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 7: have for myself. I am in grad school full time. 659 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 7: I'm at an unpaid internship, so I know that things 660 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 7: are going to look a little different during this time period, 661 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 7: but it's just this season, and I'm setting myself up 662 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 7: so that this next season brings the stability. But I 663 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 7: have a flexibility now to do all the different things 664 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 7: that by the time I graduate, I have my well 665 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 7: this community. 666 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 6: Set up, so maybe that becomes my private practice. And 667 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 6: I already have these people who are following. 668 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 7: Me in this way, who once I open up this thing, 669 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 7: are ready to go. So it's like the different building blocks, yeah, right, 670 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 7: studying it with no experience doing it exactly. 671 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 6: It's funny you bring that up. I think I recently 672 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 6: did a panel and we spoke about imposter syndrome, and. 673 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 7: I think so many of us you hear this phrase 674 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 7: again and again and again, and. 675 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 6: You start to use it over your life. 676 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 7: Oh, I have imposts syndrome, and I'm like, you don't 677 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 7: have impocess syndrome. You're just experiencing self doubt. You may 678 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 7: be nervous, you may be anxious, but you're not a fraud. 679 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 7: Like impocessism literally implies that you are a fraud. The 680 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 7: more you tell yourself that, the more you minimize yourself. 681 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 6: And you don't even believe that you're wor of entering 682 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 6: these rooms. 683 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 7: And yes, when I got my life coaching certification and 684 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 7: I'm twenty four years old and I'm working with people 685 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 7: in their thirties, forties, fifties, you have to believe that 686 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 7: you're worthy of being there and that I have something 687 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 7: to share that they can benefit from. And it does 688 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 7: take confidence, but that's where the experience and education comes in. 689 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 6: So like, yeah, I can sit with you. 690 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 7: You may be twenty years my senior, but I truly 691 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 7: believe that I have something to offer you. Same thing 692 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 7: now in my internship where I am working as a 693 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 7: case manager right now, but then my next year will 694 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 7: be more clinical and I may have clients in their 695 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 7: sixties and I'm like, I know I can still speak 696 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 7: to you even though I might look like I'm twelve 697 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 7: I'm not, and I trust myself and I know what 698 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 7: I have to offer. 699 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 6: I think as women that confidence is so important. 700 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 7: Because we take ourselves out of situations too often, and 701 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 7: this administration is already trying to do that. 702 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 6: We can't do that before they do. 703 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: I want to, like let that sit for a minute. 704 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: I'm really excited for you too. I feel like dance 705 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: is so therapeutic. I'm not a trained dancer, but when 706 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: I need to release something, I'll just I will spin 707 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: around this house. I will plea at. I don't plea 708 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: because I don't know what that is technically, I'll just 709 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: play at. 710 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: I'll do whatever. 711 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: Like it just and if you can and it and 712 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: it just makes it makes perfect sense to me, you know, 713 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: And you can use it with kids and all ages. 714 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: And to have like a dance studio that ties in 715 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: the mental health and like breathwork, and I think that's 716 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: really exciting. 717 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 7: Because we're so used to breathing so shallowly in our 718 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 7: chest and I try to get people to be more 719 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 7: deeply into their diaphragm. 720 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 6: And it makes me. 721 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: Trying to look skinny on camera, you know, like I 722 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: don't want to. 723 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 4: And I think the. 724 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 7: And I'm like, oh, it's from dance, it's from how 725 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 7: you carry yourself how you know, But the two mess 726 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 7: so beautifully. 727 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Imani and I both need like some 728 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: trapped massages because I do the same thing. I'm like, 729 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: I just. 730 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 6: Think, I'm like, open up the shoulder blade, deep bread. 731 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 4: This is the kitchen on my back right now. This 732 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 4: is the kitchen. 733 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: Like you know, that's the weight of like five hundred 734 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: six year olds on your back, probably no. 735 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 4: More like eight hundred eight hundred. 736 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And what are the ages you didn't mention? 737 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 5: From first first kindergarten to a do the account that 738 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 5: I'm on now it goes up to I think sixth grade. 739 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, Well I want to get your take. 740 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: Can you talk a bit about that and how you are, yeah, 741 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: how you're approaching like the vision you have for your 742 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: life and how it may be different. 743 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 5: I mean recently what I've started doing that I'm finding 744 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 5: out this work and I start giving myself grace. Like 745 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 5: you know, sometimes we set like time periods for our success, 746 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 5: and if the time period run out, we just you're 747 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 5: not successful, You're a loser. Like I stop doing that, 748 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 5: Like I stop, like just celebrate in my very small 749 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 5: wins because then it just it gives you that energy 750 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 5: to be like, all right, next win now, then the 751 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 5: next win Like not because it's small doesn't mean it 752 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 5: doesn't deserve a celebration. So I think I've been giving 753 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 5: myself a lot of grace and just like just every 754 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 5: little celebration, just take it one step at a time 755 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 5: and just know that, hey, even if you're in a 756 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 5: moment right now where you feel like Because sometimes I 757 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 5: think I was having this conversation with Jamila earlier, like 758 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 5: I mentioned like sometimes people have like writer's block, I 759 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 5: feel like sometimes it's okay, like for me to have 760 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 5: like a little bit of entrepreneurship block doesn't mean that 761 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 5: I still don't want to. 762 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 4: Find this big restaurant or this. 763 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 5: But sometimes I feel like we move faster than our brain. 764 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 4: Is trying to align us to move. 765 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 5: And if I'm moving faster than my brain, the plan 766 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 5: is not going to work out because we're not on 767 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 5: this same page. And I think now I'm just even 768 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 5: if it doesn't look like a win to somebody on 769 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 5: the outside, if I'm happy and I'm giving myself a round, 770 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 5: I could have a party for myself with my celebration 771 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 5: and I know that like this is it. So I 772 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 5: think when I started to do that, my clarity for 773 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,479 Speaker 5: what I really want got wider, got clearer, Like it's 774 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 5: not a whole bond, because sometimes I feel like we 775 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 5: got a whole bunch of jumble dreams and we're not 776 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 5: following like that. 777 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 4: Pat. 778 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 5: So I feel like since I took the step back 779 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 5: start giving myself some grace, it's getting clearer, like I 780 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 5: could be like it's like I'm seeing the one, than 781 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 5: the two, than the three. Before it was just like 782 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 5: all the numbers, but it wasn't in specific order. So 783 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 5: now I am I'm just trying to and again watching 784 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 5: some machine and so I've been watching that. 785 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 4: Inwards space stuff. It's like and I think that's something 786 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 4: that you you have to give yourself grace. 787 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 5: Like I've been cooking strongly for probably over a good 788 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 5: twenty seven years, and within my career, I never start seeing. 789 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: Like seven years old. All of you guys are like 790 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: twenty five. 791 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 4: Thank you, that's a nice compliment. I didn't. I didn't 792 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 4: think I start like ripping and seeing the rewards that 793 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 4: I deserve until probably like a good. 794 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 5: Fifteen years imagine how long I've been cooking, putting my 795 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 5: all in. It really takes like you and go back 796 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 5: to saying like just finding something that you naturally love 797 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 5: to do, Like, yes, I want money to pay my bills. Yes, 798 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 5: I want to do this. But do I actually love 799 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 5: being in the kitchen. 800 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 4: Yes. So when I have these moments and stuff. 801 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 5: Is not going good or money is, it doesn't stop 802 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 5: me from wanting to be that same bright visionary in 803 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 5: the kitchen because I'm not really leading with money, even 804 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 5: though that's what I want, I'm. 805 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 4: Not leading with it. 806 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 5: I got to the point where I literally start listening 807 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 5: to my body. 808 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 4: I never did it. 809 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 5: So if my mind is telling me, hey, money, slow down, 810 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 5: don't take that catering, I won't take it. 811 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: And I won't have to because. 812 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 4: And I won't feel bad about it. And I feel like. 813 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 5: The fact that I'm in the position to decline the catering, 814 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 5: that's the win, because I'm not saying, like, you know, 815 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 5: it's not rich are We're not at the final goal 816 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 5: where we want to be. 817 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 4: But I've been learning to be okay with just pausing, 818 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 4: like I just pause. 819 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 1: And what was it like, Well, I want to yeah, 820 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 1: a little breathwork. Now, I'm just I'm really curious because 821 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: your life experience is so different to your sister's a 822 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 1: bit because you know, you grew up mostly in Jamaica. 823 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: You've been here for how long? You said? Ten years? 824 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? Probably sometimes I'll be forgetting. 825 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: I was telling her before y'all got on that she 826 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: chose the wrong ten years. But hey, if you watch 827 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 1: some of this, I'm curious with this conversation about immigration 828 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: all of that, like, how what is it like for 829 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: you coming here and building in life? Did you already 830 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: have some like status here? Have you had to build it? 831 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 5: I mean the good thing about this, which a lot 832 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 5: of people don't know, like my story is like the 833 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 5: opposite of Jamila. So I was born in New York 834 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 5: and I was raised in Jamaica. So I lived in 835 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 5: Jamaica for years with social security. I had that in Jamaica, 836 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 5: but I just didn't. I didn't came back to America 837 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 5: until I probably was like nineteen, like somewhere around that age. 838 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 5: So I already I was a citizen, so it was 839 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 5: easier for me to travel. 840 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 4: So thank god I didn't have to go through that far. 841 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: Yes, interesting, Okay, And now Jamila that story you tell 842 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: about your mom and she had to move here without you, 843 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: and then yeah, I went back and got you. 844 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so my mom. She my grandfather at 845 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 3: the time. 846 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 2: He's passed away since, but he had only filed for her, 847 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: didn't know I was even around. 848 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 3: That's how involved he was in her life. And when 849 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 3: he came to tell her. 850 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 2: He was like, oh, like, who's this baby, because I 851 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 2: only have papers for you to go to the States. 852 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 2: And so she did have to make a really difficult choice, 853 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 2: but not unlike many parents and people do make and 854 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 2: have made to get their families here, like they leave 855 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 2: family behind. And so she left me as a baby 856 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 2: with my grandmother. And then things were simpler back then 857 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,240 Speaker 2: and apparently easier quote unquote, you know, like things. 858 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 3: Were faster to get through the system. 859 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 2: So you know, they quickly filed for me, and then 860 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 2: I don't know, I've forgot how long it took, but 861 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 2: a few months later, maybe it was like twelve months. 862 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 3: I was I got my papers. 863 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: I was able to come up with my grandmother and 864 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 2: my uncle to the States to be reunited with my mom. 865 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 2: And you know, I feel very privileged. I think that's 866 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: one of the things so we have other siblings. Imani 867 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 2: and I do our dad that we're not privileged to 868 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 2: have been born in the United States. And I say 869 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 2: that because it did provide a lot more opportunities, whether 870 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 2: it was me being able to have citizenship. 871 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 3: So early or Imani being born with citizenship. 872 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 2: You know, I have a lot of all my siblings 873 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 2: are talented, I believe, I think they're amazing and they 874 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 2: are doing great within their own right. But I also 875 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 2: know that, you know, there's just there's opportunity here, and 876 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 2: if they were able to come here, they could probably 877 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 2: you know, expand and have more security. 878 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 3: And so I never take that for granted. 879 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 2: It's actually something that I was I was aware of 880 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 2: growing up that I did have siblings in Jamaica, and 881 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 2: I did feel a responsibility. 882 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really beautiful. That's some big siss energy right there. 883 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask about just to clarify something and 884 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: just like to underline this point. Right now, we're at 885 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: a stage where the government wants to end birthright citizenship. 886 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: So Imani, like if it had been now when you 887 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: were born here, Like, I mean, it's not officially like 888 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: a policy change, but it's crazy to think someone as 889 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: talented as you might have been withheld from having that 890 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: opportunity if things were a bit different. 891 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 5: And you know what's crazy is just say, if it 892 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 5: were to happen, I think I have the mentality that 893 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 5: I have now is I'm gonna be great regardless of 894 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 5: here I'm at, Jamaica, America. 895 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 4: That's just how I look at it now. 896 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 5: And I mean, I am grateful that I had the 897 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 5: opportunity to just buy a ticket and come to America. 898 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 4: A lot of people don't have that. 899 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 5: So but I mean, as I said, the mentality that 900 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 5: I have now, it could be Jamaica wherever, I'm still 901 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,720 Speaker 5: gonna be that shining star. 902 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 4: Imani like, it doesn't matter. 903 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: Yes, I think that goes for it. We gotta. I 904 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,400 Speaker 1: feel like we're at a time now where America's losing 905 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: and shine and I'm like, good, humble her, humble her. 906 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: I want every other We need other countries like to 907 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: to There are so many shining stars obviously outside of here, 908 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: and I'm just glad we're lucky to have you. But 909 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: I would come find you if you were like I'm 910 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: going to Paris, I'd be like, cool, I will be 911 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: coming and I'll go to your restaurant or wherever. So 912 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 1: let's talk about money for a sec because, Jamila, when 913 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: you have them on, originally y'all had been talking about 914 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: I think Roth I raise y'all had opened, Shana was 915 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: trying to get him, you know, started investing. If you 916 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: don't mind, what do you? How do you think we 917 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: should do it? 918 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 4: Jamila? 919 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: And just like what kind of financial update do we need? 920 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 2: So I think it'd be maybe just a quick quick 921 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 2: background you kind of said a lot, but I want 922 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 2: to maybe talk. 923 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 3: About just as you know, Mandy, you talk about money. 924 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 2: You have friends, real friends and family in real life, 925 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 2: right who maybe listen, maybe don't listen to your stuff 926 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 2: and other people who don't know you at all, and 927 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 2: then like listen and take your advice. And why I 928 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 2: do think they take my advice? I still think they're 929 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: you know, they have their own priorities and things that 930 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 2: they want to do, and so I feel like for 931 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 2: the longest I was telling them like invest like I 932 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 2: don't care how little it is open a roth Iray, 933 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 2: especially because of both of them at that time were 934 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 2: even I think had less stability with income, and so 935 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 2: I knew that it wasn't going to be easy. But 936 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 2: I felt like, okay, you could do something right, and 937 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 2: so I was just just inspiring them hopefully to do that. 938 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 2: And so I think at that last episode they started 939 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 2: to or what like, they had started to do that. 940 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 2: And you know, I continue to tell them, but I 941 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 2: try not to give two big sis energy where like 942 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 2: I am making it seem like they're failing if they don't. 943 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 2: But I am like, kid, if you have a question, 944 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 2: you can always call me. And I remember the one 945 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 2: time Imiani like she did, she had put money into her. 946 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 3: Wrath diray and then she did look at it like 947 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 3: forgot all about it. 948 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 2: And then she looked at it like a year or 949 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 2: two later and she saw it the value increased. 950 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 3: And she was like, wait, you were right. 951 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, I was, and I am and she 952 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 2: I Mini was actually recently on my podcast because we 953 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 2: had a whole She came over not about money, she 954 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 2: was just hanging out with us, and then but money 955 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 2: started to come up, and I asked her, you know, 956 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 2: about her debt and credit card debt and her rath 957 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 2: that array, and so I actually recorded that conversation. That's 958 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,280 Speaker 2: when she was on the podcast about her updates because 959 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 2: she did do some amazing things that she can share 960 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 2: and I'm sure Shanea can share about following through with 961 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 2: their financial goals, because even though I know that there's 962 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 2: a little bit of instability and they're still working on, 963 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 2: especially Shana, establishing themselves with their career, is that this 964 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: is they're still fairly young, and time is of the essence, 965 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 2: and so when they are a little bit older, I 966 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 2: want them to know like this is, you know, you 967 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 2: set yourself up to have even more stability for your 968 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 2: future self and so let's not let's not just like 969 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: let that time squander away. Let's you know, do the 970 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: right things to put you in a great place in 971 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 2: the future. 972 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am so. 973 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 2: Imani, do you want to talk about what you did, 974 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 2: like with your finances that you feel next? 975 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think when we was on the podcast, you know, 976 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 5: we were talking and I went ahead and I cleared 977 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 5: my whole entire credit card deal, like just one time. 978 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 5: And again, let's let's let's point this out, the fact 979 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 5: that I am in a position to do that. 980 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 4: It's a celebration moment. Let's let's celebrate that. And I 981 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 4: think I should have called you and give you the 982 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 4: update to me. 983 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 6: But yeah, the credit score went how many points? 984 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: It was probably like fifty. 985 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 4: No, I think I went up. 986 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 5: No, I think it was like I went up like 987 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 5: sixty two points or something like that. 988 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that will do it. 989 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: Do you mind saying how much you paid off? 990 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? It was five thousand, four hundred dollars. 991 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: Girl, that is not even that much. I thought you're 992 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: gonna be like fifty seven. 993 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 4: America credit card for me, for me, five thousand on 994 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 4: a credit card. 995 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 6: Yes, I mean. 996 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 4: Like over budget too. 997 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 3: That's over budget, especially when she had the money. 998 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,240 Speaker 2: I have a friend who actually also took my advice 999 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 2: and actually paid off her credit card. Like they have 1000 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 2: the money, because but they just don't want they like 1001 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 2: I screwed the credit card company, Like they think that 1002 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 2: they're doing something to the credit card company. 1003 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 3: By not paying. 1004 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 4: No, I just didn't want to let. 1005 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 3: Right, had that. I get that. I get that you 1006 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 3: want to hold onto the cash. 1007 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,439 Speaker 2: You never know, right, But she had enough to where 1008 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 2: she still had a buffer, So I said, you know, 1009 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 2: it's better you paid off. 1010 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 3: But yes, the fact that like she. 1011 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 2: Was able to do that in one setting just shows 1012 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 2: you how much she built up herself financially. 1013 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 3: So prout of that. 1014 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,399 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I will just say I hope that 1015 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: five thousand continues being way too much debt because it 1016 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: You just I'm just so used to hearing like fifteen 1017 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: twenty thirty five, you know, fifty thous the card dead, 1018 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: and in this country, I just feel like it's so easy, 1019 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: and I mean, like we're taking on so much more 1020 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: debt now. 1021 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 8: But kudos that thing for me, Like especially again, like 1022 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:17,959 Speaker 8: having a sister like Jamia, like why I take like. 1023 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 5: The financial advice very serious from her, right and I can. 1024 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 5: I don't use nothing on my credit card that I 1025 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,240 Speaker 5: don't have to pay right away. 1026 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 4: So if I can't pay it, I'm not spending it. 1027 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 5: And that's that's how I treat my credit card like, 1028 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 5: even though they keep secretly increasing the. 1029 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 4: Amount, I'm not paying attention to that. I just pay. 1030 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 4: I just spend what I could pay back right away. 1031 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing, all right, Shanea, you're the baby of the family. 1032 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: What you got going on? You said you're under thirty 1033 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: or not thirty yet. 1034 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 7: No, I am twenty eight. I turned twenty nine in August. 1035 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 1: You guys are so gifted. I just it's insane, all right. 1036 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 7: But go ahead, which is insane listening to the episode 1037 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 7: when I said I was twenty four and I was like, yeah, 1038 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 7: I know. I think COVID really shift shifted our agents 1039 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 7: like I don't even mid twenties feels like a blurb 1040 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 7: because of COVID that like I went in early beginning, 1041 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 7: I left late and I was like waiting Because of 1042 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 7: my discipline, I had saved up so that I was 1043 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 7: able to have a little bit of a buffer in 1044 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,359 Speaker 7: this time period of not working as much. And I 1045 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 7: think that's why the discipline is so important one because 1046 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,760 Speaker 7: besides student loan. 1047 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 6: Debt, I don't have credit card debt. 1048 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 7: And I think I've been having more candid conversations with 1049 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,280 Speaker 7: friends and you would be surprised. 1050 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 6: Maybe you're right. People have a lot of credit card debt. 1051 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,720 Speaker 6: So for me, even though I'm not in a period where. 1052 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 7: I'm able to save and invest as much as I 1053 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 7: would like to, and I'm honest about that, I am 1054 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 7: really grateful that I don't have the debt because I'm 1055 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 7: able to manage my money in a way where I'm like, Okay, 1056 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 7: this is why. 1057 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 6: I am now. 1058 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 7: And I realized at the end of the day, sometimes 1059 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 7: you can save and invest as much as you want 1060 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 7: is an income issue. So if you're able to increase that, 1061 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 7: then you're able to have a lot more gap to 1062 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 7: paper things you want. So my biggest thing right now 1063 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 7: is don't live above your means. And then you talk 1064 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 7: to people on the inside and you realize the way 1065 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,800 Speaker 7: you have five six figure or four or five figure debt, 1066 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 7: and then you're like, wow, okay, we need to have 1067 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 7: more honest. 1068 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 6: Conversation because this is really happening. And I feel like 1069 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 6: you have to keep up with people. 1070 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 7: But it's better to live within your means than it 1071 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 7: means that you're not accumulating time. 1072 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I want to say too, like knowing the 1073 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 2: season of life you're in is so important and it 1074 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 2: doesn't matter your age can play a factor, but meaning yes, 1075 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 2: whether you're building and the building your career phase and 1076 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 2: investing in yourself, right, there are sometimes we're going to 1077 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 2: be investing in education, we are just going to be 1078 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 2: making it because there's other ways in which you're spending 1079 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 2: our time, energy and money outside of investing in a 1080 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 2: retirement account. 1081 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: Right. 1082 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 3: And so I just feel like you can't measure your. 1083 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 2: Points of life that you're in with other people when 1084 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 2: you have no clue of all inputs and factors that 1085 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 2: make their life their life, whether that they have kids, 1086 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,799 Speaker 2: they're taking care of someone else in their family, you know, 1087 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 2: they're changing careers, like their income. Income is obviously like 1088 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 2: the driving factor to accomplishing a lot of the financial. 1089 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 3: Goals that we have. 1090 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 2: It's the thing, right. Obviously expenses are important, but it's 1091 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 2: really income. So if you're in a low income season. 1092 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean, I mean sorry not am MAIGHTI Shane, 1093 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,359 Speaker 1: I feel like in that career path as a coach 1094 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: and therapists, like your life experiences and the fact that 1095 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: you've shown that you have you've done the things that 1096 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: you're going to encourage your clients to do, And I 1097 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: think that makes me a stronger coach, And I feel 1098 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 1: like it makes you a stronger coach and right avolently. 1099 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 6: And I know that things are a given take. If 1100 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 6: I wanted to go to corporate. 1101 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 7: Route, I might have been in a different place right now. 1102 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 7: But would I have been awarded the flexibility and the 1103 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 7: joy and the different things that I have now? 1104 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 6: Who knows? 1105 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 7: So in knowing that there's so many different paths that 1106 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 7: you can take, or I could have stayed up. That's 1107 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 7: in this job and probably continue to excel in it. 1108 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 7: But I had to check in with my gut and 1109 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 7: realize that I was no longer happy there. So I 1110 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 7: had to make a shit. So sometimes you may be 1111 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 7: able to get the income you desire, but then when 1112 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 7: you lay your head or you lay down, and now 1113 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 7: you realize that, oh but I'm not really fulfilled. And 1114 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 7: some people don't mind that. Like that's why you have 1115 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 7: to check in with yourself. Some people say a job 1116 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 7: is a job. It pays the bills. It doesn't have 1117 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 7: to make me happy. That's fine. Some people don't operate 1118 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 7: like that. You just have to know what season you're 1119 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 7: in and what you prioritize. 1120 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,799 Speaker 1: Well, I wish I could just be a part of 1121 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 1: a sister circle for longer, but we gotta stop, We 1122 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: gotta end, but we got to wrap up. I want 1123 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 1: to wrap up by a first asking y'all, Shane and Moni, 1124 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,839 Speaker 1: where can we find y'all? What inste handles you want 1125 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 1: to plug? Imani? How are we going to book you 1126 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: for catering? Even though you might say no and we 1127 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: love that for you. I wanting to go first. 1128 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 5: You can find me my Instagram handle is at the 1129 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 5: yard chef forty five. 1130 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 4: The yard is just a shortening. That's how we say Jamaica, 1131 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,479 Speaker 4: yat chef. 1132 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: Where is it yachd a chef? 1133 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 4: In my head, no, yard is in like instead a 1134 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 4: yard as in y A R D. It's a yard 1135 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 4: as in the pot Ona y A A D. So 1136 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 4: it's y A A D c h E F underscore 1137 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 4: forty five. 1138 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,800 Speaker 1: All right, we'll put that in the show notes. Perfect, perfect, 1139 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: And you want us to book for your DMS. 1140 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 4: You don't have a yes, yes, yes, yes directly the DMS. 1141 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 7: So you can find me on Instagram and also on 1142 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 7: TikTok at Shana dot McGregor so my first name dot 1143 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 7: my last name. 1144 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 6: You can also find. 1145 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 7: My wellness community and brand inward Space at inward dot 1146 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 7: space on Insta. I also have a website Shane McGregor 1147 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 7: dot com. At the top of the year, I created 1148 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,280 Speaker 7: a free breathwork program. It's a seven day nervous system 1149 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 7: recharge is seven days of pre recorded videos. So you 1150 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 7: can find that on my website. There's a little announcement 1151 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 7: of bar the top to sign up if especially they're 1152 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 7: like eighteen to fifteen minutes, so they're not long, and 1153 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,760 Speaker 7: it's a wonderful way to get to introduce to my brand. 1154 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 2: So my book, Your Journey to Financial Freedom, you can 1155 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 2: buy it anywhere books are sold. You can also go 1156 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 2: to your Journey to Financialfreedom dot com. I'm also doing 1157 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 2: something I'm pretty cool that I think is cool. I 1158 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 2: created discussion guides around the book so you can start 1159 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 2: your own book club, whether it's by yourself, with family 1160 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 2: or friends. 1161 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 3: And these discussion guides give. 1162 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 2: You prompts, takeaways, really allow you to take what you're 1163 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 2: learning in the book and really encourage you to implement 1164 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 2: what you're learning. So you can go to Journey to 1165 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 2: Launch dot com Slash book Club to get more information 1166 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 2: about that, or again you can go to your Journey 1167 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,720 Speaker 2: to Financialfreedom dot com calm that's the direct book site. 1168 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 2: And then of course wherever you listen to this podcast, 1169 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 2: you can check out Journey to Launch podcast. And I'm 1170 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 2: on social media at Journey to Launch and at Jamila 1171 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:09,959 Speaker 2: sou Front. 1172 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: The brands are strong, all right, Well, I'll make myself 1173 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 1: an honorary sister and y'all's little it'll be a qua, 1174 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 1: It'll be We'll come up with a new band name. 1175 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 3: And it was for them at one point. That's yeah, 1176 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 3: And they started out as well. 1177 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: Who's going to be the one that got kicked out? 1178 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,439 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to put that as usual. 1179 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 3: Well we all know who Beyonce is. I got the Beyonce. 1180 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 1: Hey we don't know? Oh, oh we do. Then there's 1181 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 1: Michelle and who's cuddly because they're both they're both equally fantastic. 1182 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,439 Speaker 6: Is this shoes? Shoes got to be our own? 1183 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 5: Because then, yeah, I mean, I'm just glad to be 1184 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 5: I'm just glad to be part of the group. 1185 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 4: I ain't go I'm just here. 1186 00:57:53,880 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 1: You're Michelle, thank you? All right? 1187 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 6: Thank you? 1188 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: Oh you want to end with a deep ros Okay, yeah, 1189 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: yeah my five year so yeah, I need that. 1190 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to be kicking picking my kids up. Your 1191 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 2: money is coming with me. She's in my house recording 1192 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 2: this upstairs. We're going to pick the kids up. So 1193 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 2: we need some we need some peace before we get them. 1194 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 7: Okay, everyone just sit up tall, ground your sibos into 1195 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 7: your seat, open up. 1196 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 6: Your collar bones, close your eyes. 1197 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 7: Down, and if you would like, place your hands over 1198 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 7: your stomach. You know, we just cultivated so much energy 1199 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 7: during this podcast episode bringing ourselves, bringing our voices together. 1200 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 7: Take a deep in hell and filling up your belly 1201 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 7: as if it was a balloon, passing your belly button. 1202 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 6: In towards your hands, and then a big exhale out. 1203 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 6: Let's take that two. 1204 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 7: More times in hell and in your belly to in blade, 1205 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 7: dropping your shoulder blades down as you extail, pressing your 1206 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:12,439 Speaker 7: belly went back towards your hands. Now this last one, 1207 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 7: feel your lips in hell and l through your nose 1208 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 7: in hell in and a big exhale out. 1209 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 6: We can flutter her eyes open. 1210 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 7: I'm gonna call you after this, all right, girl, Look, 1211 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 7: it's important. 1212 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: You gotta go to her website and get the course, 1213 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 1: and I mean get the little eighteen. 1214 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 7: Yeah you little so much stress in our bodies. It's 1215 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 7: so important outlets to release. 1216 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, chef, I MONI what's going on back there? 1217 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: I want my I want my I want my crumbrulet. 1218 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: And you'll you'll they'll be like, you'll be like, I'm sorry, 1219 00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm just censoring myself. You little maniacs. Leave me alone, 1220 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 1: all right, y'all are amazing, Thank you to me. 1221 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 4: It happens