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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Liliana Rosquez and I'm Joseph Carrio, and

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Speaker 1: this is Becoming an Icon, a weekly podcast where we

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Speaker 1: give you the rundown on how today's most famous Latin

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Speaker 1: v stars have shaped pop culture.

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Speaker 2: And given the world some extra level.

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Speaker 1: Sit back and get comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Because we are going in the only way we know

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Speaker 2: how with buena buenassas.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of opinions as we relive their greatest

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Speaker 1: achievements on our journey to find out what makes them

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Speaker 1: so iconic. All right, y'all are in for quite a

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Speaker 1: treat today because we're going to do things a little different.

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Speaker 2: Instead of looking back, we are looking forward, by.

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Speaker 1: Right, primo. Now join us as we peer into the

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Speaker 1: future to Charler about the next generation of icons.

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Speaker 2: And we're not doing this alone. Joining us today is

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Speaker 2: the one the only domas miavs.

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Speaker 1: The crowd goes wild. Yeah, let me give him his flowers? Okay.

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Speaker 1: So Thomas good friend of Mine is also a staff

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Speaker 1: writer at Rolling Stone, where he covers some of the

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Speaker 1: biggest names in pop and Latin music and in addition

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Speaker 1: to that, all Things trending. Follow him on TikTok Fyi

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Speaker 1: and before he was at Rolling Stone. Thomas was a

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Speaker 1: digital music writer at People, an intern at the Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Times, and hum my intern at The Today Show

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Speaker 1: many many moons ago. And he is proudly Mexicano, just

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Speaker 1: like Joseph and I, and he is one of the

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Speaker 1: brightest and best in the music industry.

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Speaker 2: Last year on our season finale, he dropped knowledge, spilled

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Speaker 2: the tea, and showed us the future of Latin music.

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Speaker 2: He's fearless, one of our many faves. Domas. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: become an icon. Oh my god, I'm so happy to

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Speaker 2: be here. I feel like I'm an icon myself just

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Speaker 2: by joining y'all.

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Speaker 1: Well, you are an honorary member of the show. You

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Speaker 1: always give us so much to talk about, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna bring you up to speed in case you're just

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Speaker 1: joining us for this episode. And Thomas also to tell

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Speaker 1: you a little bit about who we've talked about so far. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So we've done Wanga, Celia Cruz, Selena, Carlos Santana, and

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Speaker 1: we just wrapped Daddy Yankee, who was like actually one

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Speaker 1: of the most interesting I think that we've done thus far.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we have Los Digres del Norte. So Thomas

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Speaker 1: out of anybody that we've covered thus far in season two,

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Speaker 1: do you have any personal connection to any of these artists?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I mean you mentioned Juan gabriel and

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Speaker 3: I feel like last time I was on an episode

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Speaker 3: so much. He's definitely one of my icons when it

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Speaker 2: Though he never came out.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And anybody stand out to you in this

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Speaker 1: list that you feel like are just truly icons in

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think those Thedis in Northes stand out

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Speaker 3: me come out to my dad. Actually that's so funny,

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Speaker 1: Yes, we need to know this story to tell.

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Speaker 3: Us the story basically Lostitos have this song about like

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Speaker 2: It's like a fake story.

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Speaker 3: And so I play that song for my dad after

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Speaker 3: And I think his like nodding was like my way

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Speaker 3: And then like three years later, I interviewed those theias

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Speaker 2: Stories, can you stop it? Absolutely unplugging this. I'm unplugging right.

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Speaker 1: Now, goosebumps right now. What was their reaction to you

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Speaker 2: You are now you are on ic. We have to

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Speaker 1: I really love that because when you think of them

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Speaker 1: Like how many times have you heard something and been

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Speaker 1: Now let's go back to the future of icons. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So what we've done is this year or this season,

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Speaker 1: So we did Celia, but we also did Daddy Yankee,

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Speaker 1: Like Daddy Yankee ran the underground mixtape like way before

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Speaker 1: right or maybe not? The muss I want to hear

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Speaker 1: from you, what does a path to becoming an icon

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Speaker 3: I think that we're still figuring it out, really, because

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Speaker 3: with social media, we've seen a lot of overnight icons

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. That's so true. And I was

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Speaker 1: that that big impact early on in the career impacts

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Speaker 3: like that TikTok video that you post that's like a

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Speaker 2: It starts with that once and meet that, and then

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Speaker 3: My god, that kind of reminds me of Lady Gaga

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Speaker 2: Out and then it if you want it. It keeps going,

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely, And have you seen any similarities in the

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that we're no longer relying on things

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Speaker 3: that brings a new audience to you right away.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And you know, we've got three incredible icons in

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Speaker 1: That is Becky G. Gamilakabello and my girl La Bichota

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Speaker 3: Becky G was born in Inglewood with this immigrant family,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's catchy, af right, I mean put that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it didn't happen overnight. How do you think

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Speaker 1: that transformation happened? Because going from singing mariachi music at

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Speaker 1: that happened for her. Did the audience shift her focus

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear you. And as a super fan

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Speaker 3: It embraces us like dirtiness that I think she hadn't

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Speaker 3: I think that because of Fifth Harmony she was able

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Speaker 2: For her to do that. Okay, hold on, but I

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Speaker 2: tell us about that, and tell us about the glow

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Speaker 1: We all want to know, do I need to break

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Speaker 1: up with my husband to get that? Tell you do

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Speaker 1: we all need to break off.

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Speaker 3: was the kind of thing that happened when those two

436
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 3: broke up. And then they break up, and then she

437
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 3: drops this music that does really well, and then she

438
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: gets with Fade, who's this other really great regathon artist,

439
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 3: and they like start to become the new power couple

440
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 3: in regathon in Latin music.

441
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 2: So it's cool. It's cool to see how like sometimes

442
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: you just got to let go a little bit of

443
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 2: that past.

444
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, I do know.

445
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

446
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: I don't mean that weird. I'm like, oh, Met Patrick, No,

447
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not letting go of you. But you know

448
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: what I mean, Yes, I do know that sometimes you

449
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 1: really have to release all the things that are holding

450
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: you down, like you're in. She was in her new energy,

451
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 1: in her new space, and I do think what you

452
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: put out is what you get back. And I feel

453
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: like she was giving so much and putting out such

454
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: amazing music. Speaking of I also feel like in her

455
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: glow up era, we got a lot of new sounds,

456
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: and I want to know from you. I heard Gucci

457
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: los Banos and I thought, is this Selena or is

458
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: this Carol g.

459
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: It was Carolina Honey. It was that combination.

460
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: It was and what gave what do you think gave

461
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: her the confidence to go beyond reggaeton because that's what's safe,

462
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: that's what she knows. And now she's like, oh no,

463
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to do like I'm going to do like

464
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 1: regional Mexican music and kill it.

465
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: Well.

466
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I think she came out this time where

467
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: Muskana was having this big glow up, it only made

468
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: sense to do some sort of dabble into that sound.

469
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, but here's the thing. If you're not Mexican,

470
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: how can you feel like you can take take over that? Right?

471
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: Because that's kind of like so we liked it, but

472
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 2: like that's also a very brave like taking over a

473
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 2: new space.

474
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: Well can I throw a little bit of tea into

475
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: this pot?

476
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay?

477
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: So to your point, right, So, first of all, I

478
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: don't I feel like, if anything in that video, what

479
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: Carol Ge is doing is honoring Selena in the most beautiful,

480
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: in the most beautiful way, right, And I think Latin music,

481
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: you can I love somebody that's versatile, like I love

482
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: a versatile queen, like do everything that you want to do.

483
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: But I will say that I did see the bad

484
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 1: Bunny beef between Carol and Bad Bunny.

485
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: Wait aren't they buddies?

486
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so the muss what do you know about this?

487
00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: So obviously Carol Gee adopted beat Chota right season whatever. Well,

488
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: that Bunny on his new album has a lyric that says,

489
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: I come from pr where the real Beachiotas are from. Okay,

490
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, because by the way, bachote is

491
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican slang. It is like badass, badass bitch.

492
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: Okay, that's Beachorte. So she took Bachota.

493
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: And it's basically her like mine.

494
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 2: There it is. But if I were to be Carol G,

495
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: I would be like, you know what, You're right, that's

496
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: that is where they're from, where they're from. But like

497
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: I took this persona on, like, don't you think that's

498
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: how it is? Because she has a generation of Bachota's

499
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: now she does, she does, so she took over. I

500
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: just I was like, what, you know, what's funny?

501
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 3: That's actually what she said in her response, Like many,

502
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 3: she said, there are many Beachota's in the world, but

503
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 3: from me, the Yin is the real Bota. And she

504
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: pointed to her side because because she just made Bechota

505
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: like Bachota, you're not thinking, oh, the girls from Puerto Rico.

506
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, krol G the one and only.

507
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, no again, the words exist, but she made it.

508
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: Hers and buta is me.

509
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: I love you so much. Okay. So we've talked a

510
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: little bit about their history, we've talked about where they are.

511
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: What are you hoping to see from any of these artists?

512
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: Are we looking for collapse? We want to see them

513
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: in a movie like where are they taking us? And

514
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: where do you, as somebody who really understands the career

515
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: of an artist, where do you want to see them go?

516
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: And where do you not want to see them go?

517
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: Because that's I think also equally important.

518
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 3: So Carol g I will remind you she had her

519
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: acting for Rady this year. Mama she was in great

520
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 3: said that.

521
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: Well, so right, oh my god, that's right.

522
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: She ate that role.

523
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: She ate that role so hard that they added lines

524
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 3: for her, like, they added more lines. It was just

525
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: going to be a little cameo, and she was so

526
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 3: good that they made it a whole character. And I

527
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 3: think that just goes to show that Carol is definitely

528
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 3: an icon in the making, because once you do that,

529
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: you do that little foray into acting, and you step

530
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 3: away from music and you continue to sell out state.

531
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 3: I mean, she's currently on an arena tour in like

532
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 3: Germany performing these Spanish ass songs Germans. Yeah, and it's

533
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: and it's selling out and it's performing really, really well.

534
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: And I think that's how you know that you're an

535
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: icon if you're selling arenas with your Spanish music overseas.

536
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's over somas. I love that you said that,

537
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of people have asked us

538
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: when we've done interviews, like when we were on CBS Mornings,

539
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: people are like, well, how do you define icon? And

540
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: we've always agreed, and Joseph and I disagree on a

541
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: lot of things, but we always it has to be global,

542
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: meaning you can walk into a bar in you know,

543
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: in Korea or in Thailand or in Ireland and if

544
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: you put on Gucci Los Banos and everyone's singing it,

545
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: you have global success. And I think you're right. I

546
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: think she is on her way to global domination. I

547
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: mean selling out stadiums in Germany. That is the last

548
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: place I thought you were going to say, and here

549
00:26:59,400 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: we are.

550
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: Well there you go. All right, tell us about Camila Cabello.

551
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: Camilla's dropping this album and I'm excited to see what

552
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 3: the reception is going to be because it's been very mixed.

553
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: She performed with Lena Delray Acrochella, and that was a

554
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: really big moment for me specifically, but.

555
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: Also for her in her career.

556
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: I literally thought, no, it was a really big moment

557
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 3: for Camilla in her career and being championed by somebody

558
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: like Lena Delray who has this pool with specifically the

559
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: queer community, and I think that's kind of who this

560
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: album is for. And I think it's gonna it's gonna

561
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 3: land because I think she's been able to build this

562
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: community around the music.

563
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: So I'm excited for that. You know, she said that

564
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 2: this was for the gays and the girls, right, Is

565
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 2: that what you said? That's right? Who else would you say,

566
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: just to compare, would you say, has an album that's

567
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: for the gays and the girls, just to put it

568
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: in comparison of like what we're talking about. Besides like

569
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 2: Gloria Trevi, but maybe more someone now because totally he

570
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: is the gays in the girls Gloria Trevi? Is that real? Well?

571
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: I think you think in the non Spanish world, I

572
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: think right now, Charlie XCX is one of those people

573
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: that really really and there's been a lot of comparisons

574
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: to Charlie XCX's rollout with Camila's music, which is I

575
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: think very interesting.

576
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: I don't know, this is why you're here. I know

577
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: this is why you're here.

578
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: Well, you know what's actually really funny?

579
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: Tell us Charlie XCX and Camila Cabeo went on tour

580
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: with Taylor Swift together and now they're both dropping pretty

581
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 3: big albums the same year.

582
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: And Charlie XCX has a Taylor Swift disc truck on

583
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: her album Whoa Yeah, we just got all I can't

584
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: take it.

585
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to take a break because I need

586
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: to go listen to that album. Okay, Now, because you

587
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 1: do talk about all things trending as well, I do

588
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: have to ask you, what is the next big pop

589
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: trend that is going to hit our ears?

590
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: Okay? Mark my words.

591
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: The live show is going to become the most important

592
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: part of an artist's career, regardless of how small or

593
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: how big they are. And I say this because we're

594
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: seeing somebody like Beyonce, somebody like Taylor Swift doing three

595
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: hour shows. Shakira just told Rolling Stone that her show

596
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: is going to be over two and a half hours long.

597
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: The show is going to become the most important part

598
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: of becoming an icon. And I think when you see

599
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: somebody like Chapel Roone, who literally her whole show is

600
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: fan interaction, hearing back from fans, and it's made her

601
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: this like bursioning person that is going to become so

602
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: big in the next few months, it's because of her

603
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: live shows. Like it's not oh, I want to check

604
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: out her music on streaming services, it's like, oh, I

605
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: want to go to a Chapel Roone show because I

606
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: know she puts on a crazy show. And I think

607
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: that's what's been missing with a lot of new artists

608
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: these years.

609
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: I agree, we're just listening to stuff and that way

610
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: you get to see them and interact. Everything's just so

611
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: instant we can just download it now, but when you're

612
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: making the effort and you're seeing someone, even if it's small,

613
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: you're just kind of like WHOA.

614
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: I feel, yeah, there's a connected book because it's about

615
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: connection ultimately. And I agree with you. I think the

616
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: first when I saw Adele in Las Vegas, I thought

617
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: this is how every show should be. The feeling that

618
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: she gave me, even though we were in a big

619
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: auditory and like I felt like she was singing to

620
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: me and telling me stories, even though I was surrounded

621
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: by like thousands of people. And I think you're right.

622
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: I think the days of like performers coming out and

623
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: doing some scripted set that never deviates from the plan,

624
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: people see right through it and they're like, no, we

625
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: want real we want raw like give it to me,

626
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: and also for the perform especially when you were paying,

627
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, three four five, one hundred dollars for a

628
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: ticket on the cheap side. You're so good. You're so good.

629
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: You really do have such a pulse on what is happening,

630
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: not just in music but also in pop culture. So

631
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: I love having you on and one of my favorite

632
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: things to do with you is also know what I

633
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: need to be listening to, what I need to be downloading,

634
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: what I need to stop listening to. And I also

635
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: love when we make you make a very hard choice.

636
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: So we're gonna play a little game called play play Pass. Okay,

637
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: so we are gonna name three songs from each of

638
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: our icons in the making, and one has got to go.

639
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: Are you ready?

640
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm scared.

641
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: Then we're doing our jobs. Okay, Ready, play play Pass

642
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: with Shower from Becky g I Know what you did

643
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: last summer, cann Me, lench On Mendes and Gassi Nada

644
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: Carol g.

645
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is already really hard.

646
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: He's so cute.

647
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, played to the first two just because

648
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: of Showers, choke Hold, and then about I Know we

649
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: did last summer. That was Camila's first foray into solo music,

650
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: so like in her career, it's like so impactful that

651
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: I want to keep her.

652
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: All right, see you later, gas Nada yos. Okay, next,

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Speaker 1: all right, play play Pass Duda, Daddy Yankee featuring Becky

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Speaker 1: G Princeesa, Theeni featuring Carol G or South of the

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Speaker 1: Border Ed Sheeran featuring Tamil like Ave and obviously these

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Speaker 1: are all the features category.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to pass on South of the Border. I'm

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Speaker 2: booting her.

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Speaker 3: She she was a moment done.

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Speaker 2: No, we were out with that one.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, and we're just gonna keep it moving

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Speaker 1: on that because he was so he didn't even think,

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Speaker 1: he didn't even he didn't pause. Okay, now, if we're

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Speaker 1: talking breakouts, play play Pass out on Meyama featuring Bad

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Speaker 1: Bunny and Carol g See Piamma Becky G or Havana

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Speaker 1: featuring Young Thug Camila.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that one's actually very very hard because

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Speaker 3: they all are very significant in their careers. Just because

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Speaker 3: of how much it's been played for us on the radio.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to say Havana, oh not out.

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Speaker 1: Oh are you sure that you are a fan.

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Speaker 2: I love of our vibes over here, My god.

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Speaker 3: I think Havana was a big radio hit, and it

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Speaker 3: was a big radio hit period, Wasn't it was a.

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Speaker 1: Radio he gave us up. Keep it moving, Lilyana. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 1: as our songstress enter their villain era or their Vita era. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here are the three songs Shameless, Cami Amargura, Carol G

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Speaker 1: and Ram Becky G. What are you passing on?

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Speaker 3: I think I'm going to pass on actually because this

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Speaker 3: was the follow up to sin Biama because it also

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Speaker 3: features and it just it didn't It just didn't hit

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Speaker 3: the same way that sim Biama did.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's those other two. You say that because I

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Speaker 2: feel like Shameless doesn't feel so bad for me.

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Speaker 4: Really, No, I don't know why I don't get like brilliant,

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Speaker 4: but okayod good one, good one. Okay, We're not going

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Speaker 4: to ture you much longer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is like what we consider the fan favorites,

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Speaker 1: but now we want to know the maasa's favorites. Okay, Chanelle,

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Speaker 1: Becky G featuring pel Pluma, Tusa, Carol G, myle my.

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Speaker 3: Girl.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm in my Yolanda era. I'm literally no.

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Speaker 3: I know BECAUSEUSA Live was Crazy Channel with Becky Life

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Speaker 3: Changing and myle Ma had that feature with the baby

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Speaker 3: before he got canceled.

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Speaker 2: So I'm over that one. Actually, that's a good one.

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Speaker 3: That one doesn't give you Alnda vibes. She it's just canceled, okay, period.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and then we have to know who is next,

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Speaker 1: so we want to play. So I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: you a song from one of our icons in the making.

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Speaker 1: You're going to tell me who I would like, all right, Sousta, hold.

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Speaker 2: On, let me grab my pen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you ready to take notes?

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Speaker 3: Okay, my listeners, I need to pull up my my

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Speaker 3: people too, all.

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Speaker 1: Right ready see Gusta provencea Carol g Tegustaria.

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm gonna say and I'm gonna go on a

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Speaker 3: whim for this small artist. Her name is MJ Nevreva.

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Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with her. She's Venezuelan, half Venezuelan. She dropped

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Speaker 3: her Arepa mixtape. That's literally the name of her project.

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Speaker 3: It's called a mixtape literally, and she has all these

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Speaker 3: like dark perel songs that just make me feel right

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Speaker 3: like I want to be in like a warehouse.

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Speaker 2: My god, a dark PreO. Okay, say her name one

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Speaker 2: more time, mj Nevreva.

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Speaker 1: The Dark Perrel, I met the dork tape PreO. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now see Gustaton from Becky g Tegustaria.

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Speaker 2: Oh there's this girl.

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Speaker 3: Name is Stevie, also a small versioning artist that I'm

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Speaker 3: obsessed with. And I may or may not have mentioned

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Speaker 3: her the last time I was here, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: plug her again because I'm obsessed with her. As Stevie.

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Speaker 3: She makes musica Mehicana with a modern flair. I think

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Speaker 3: if Rosalia was Mexican and her middle name was Lupeta,

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Speaker 3: but no, literally. Her last song is three val Like

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Speaker 3: the last time we heard three Valve was like twenty twelve,

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Speaker 3: and she's bringing it back, like she's going back to

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Speaker 3: that era and bringing Cumbias and three val into.

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Speaker 2: The four are we going to?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I need to go out tonight to a place

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Speaker 1: that plays a Stevie. We need to find it. Joors

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Speaker 1: soder on it, Okay, all right, see Tegusta. I love it,

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Speaker 1: Camila Tegusta ya.

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Speaker 2: Way, Oh my god, I need to think about this one.

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Speaker 1: Actually this is also new right, I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: like the newer This is for the girls in the gays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this one is for the girls in the gaze.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, wait, I have tota. But also I

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Speaker 3: need you to take off your Yolanda wig because we're

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Speaker 3: talking about Camila here. We need to make sure that

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Speaker 3: you you got it. No, okay, I know I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: say yes if if you like, I love it, I

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Speaker 3: love it, I love it, you will love ganya os

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Speaker 3: who's this Mexican pop star who is the best.

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Speaker 2: She is dominating on TikTok on social media. One one

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Speaker 2: of her songs is so catchy.

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Speaker 3: She goes ioty and it's so viral and beautiful.

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Speaker 2: You need to get into that booty pooty.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's gonna be my summer anthe Kasha

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Speaker 1: cut I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Literally gania os Oh.

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Speaker 3: And she's actually featured on the new bestl Pluma album

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Speaker 3: that's out this month, so she has a little verse

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Speaker 3: on there.

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Speaker 2: She taps into her vibe with beso very good, ten

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Speaker 2: out of ten recommend. All right, so I got my notes,

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Speaker 2: it's m it's s TV and kenya Os. There you go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now before we let you go, because that is

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Speaker 1: all the time, sadly that we have for today and

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Speaker 1: this episode. Where can we find you? What do you

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Speaker 1: have going on? Because the people want to be in

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Speaker 1: the know with Domas Mier.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm so glad you asked that.

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Speaker 3: I'm on Socials as Domas Underscore, Mire, on Instagram and

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Speaker 3: on x and on TikTok. I am just Domas Mier

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Speaker 3: and coming up, I will be moderating a really cool

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Speaker 3: panel at VidCon about It's called Queer in Review, so

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Speaker 3: the year in review for LGBTQ people.

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Speaker 2: So I'm very excited for that.

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Speaker 1: Amazing Thomas, thank you for taking the time to share

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Speaker 1: with us. Seriously, you have the best predictions. You've got

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Speaker 1: all the intel, all the tea, and we love how

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Speaker 1: much energy that you bring to this. But we also

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Speaker 1: love what you're doing for latinos in music. So thank

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Speaker 1: you for representing always and the best to you.

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Speaker 2: We hurt you. Thank you for having me. I had

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Speaker 2: so much fun.

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Speaker 1: On the next Becoming an Icon, the literal band of

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