1 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: We're back. Thanks again for joining us. 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 3: If you have not listened to our episode from Wednesday yet, 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 3: you really missed out and you should go check it out. 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 3: We had Demi Burnette on with us, and oh my gosh, 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: Susan is she the most fun? She's Barbie, You're right, Barby. 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: I love that kid, and I know, but she was 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: very open about everything. 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 3: You know, you know her and I only had talked 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: with her on the phone a few times. But first 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: of all, I got to say it again. I said 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: it about. 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: Uh Kelsey, there you go. 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: The gorgeous hair they have. 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: Is this generation? 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I don't know what's 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: in the water, but anyway, but no, she's so open about, 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: you know, talking about being celibate and not dating and 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: not any and sober. Any one of those things would 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: be incredibly life changing. But the fact that she has 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 3: so much energy and is so open to talking about 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 3: those things. What a great interesting person. 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: She is a twenty nine year old that went through 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: a lot and came out on top. And she knows 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: herself now, she knows her limits, you know, and really 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: she's not really open to exploring anybody else right now, 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,279 Speaker 1: she's just doing her and yeah, she knows her. 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: And I was, I was amazed. She talked. I don't 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: know the background. I don't need to, but you know, 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: just rolled off her tongue. You know, well, my relationship 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 3: with my mother, now she got out of prison this time. 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: Just she's so she won't take advice for her. 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: That was funny. What did she says? She's just married. 34 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: She's been married four times and you know this guy 35 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: and that size just gets. 36 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: Been bad places when she's with us. Oh my god. 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Well, today we're answering more of our fan questions and 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: we're so excited to get into these. 39 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: Yes, and don't forget if you have a question for 40 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: Susan and may please send them in. All you have 41 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: to do is go to bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour. 42 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: We love answering these questions and we always have thought 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: or two, don't we, Susan? 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: Oh indeed we do, all right, Kathy. 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: Before we get into those questions, let's get started with 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: today's question of the day. 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: All right, So today's topic for discussion. 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: Do you think it's okay to have a serious celebrity 49 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: hall pass in a relationship. 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: What No, no, wow, I don't think you get a 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: hall pass in any relationship. 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: What does that even mean? 53 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, go have a ball today and I'll see 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: tomorrow and we'll go right back to normal. I don't 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: think so, I know, I don't mean, I don't I 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: really think hall past means what I think it means, right, well, 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: I think it means any behavior is okay, not just 58 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: sexual behavior. I think it means any kind of behavior 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: is okay because you get a haul past because you're 60 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: a celebrity. 61 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, I'm. 62 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: Not absolutely not deep bother, Wait. 63 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 3: A minute, is it scaring the scaring you that you 64 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: and I agree so much? 65 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: No, I don't get scared of that I like them 66 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: and you agree with me. 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: Oh gosh. All right, well, let's let's get onto our 68 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: fan questions, because we have some great ones here. Let's 69 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: start with Sydney. Sydney asks, Hi, Susan and Kathy absolutely 70 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: loving the podcast. Thank you for sharing your beautiful friendship 71 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: with all of us. I was wondering, when do you 72 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: think it is the appropriate time to discuss your dating 73 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: history with someone you are seeing, or do you have 74 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: to say anything at all. I'm in my mid twenties 75 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: and have had very limited dating experience because of personal 76 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: choices and putting my education first. There have been multiple 77 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: occasions where I share this with someone and the response 78 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: is not positive. It feels like looking for a first 79 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: time job. Any advice is appreciated, Thanks so much. 80 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: What do you think people judged him because he put 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: his education first? 82 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: That would attract me even more. 83 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 84 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: You have a good hole on your shoulders. 85 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Sydney Cidy the city may be a girl. I 86 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 3: don't know that. I think that may be a girl. 87 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 3: But well, I don't know. It could be. It could 88 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: be either, actually, but I just assumed. 89 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: But I think, well that would make a difference, wouldn't it, Kathy. 90 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: I think because men would appreciate a woman that chose, 91 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: but women would judge men. 92 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: Right, Oh, thank god? I think who Sydney was? 93 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: Sydney let a female or for me? We need pronouns 94 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: now you know them? They We need a grown out here. 95 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: Here's what I think, though I have known people like 96 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: my sister. She'll kill me if she hears this. Was 97 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: she was married to a guy. They're now divorced and 98 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: she wanted to know about his dating history, and he 99 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: did not want to tell her, and he said life 100 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: starts today with us. He didn't want to hear her 101 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: dating past. She really wanted to know his dating past. 102 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: So I kind of think it depends on the couple. 103 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure why it matters. That's I guess 104 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: that's my question. Why does your dating history matter? 105 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: So I don't know that we need details of anyone's backstory, 106 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: but maybe you're having a conversation like when was your 107 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: last relationship? Like, I don't want to be somebody's rebound person, 108 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: so I would kind of want to know, did you 109 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: just jump out last week and here I am. 110 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: You know, I wish i'd asked that that's a lesson? Well, well, 111 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: but I but this almost sounds like the person is 112 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to get in this relationship 113 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 3: if you haven't had a like, is there something wrong 114 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: with you that you ever had a lot of that 115 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: back which I don't like that. I don't like that. 116 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: The reason that they just told us was because they 117 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: were educated. 118 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: They were following their education. 119 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 3: Susan, I don't if they were sitting in a corner 120 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: sucking their thumb. What does it matter what they're doing. 121 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: They're you know that saying it's a red flag. Oh 122 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: there's a guy, he's sixty, he's never been married. 123 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: Red flag. They go, yeah, but this girl's twenty, she's 124 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: twenty three, or this guy, they're twenty three, twenty four. 125 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I think that is absurd that anyone 126 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: would say, well, you know, you're twenty four and you 127 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: haven't had five boyfriends and you know, six six deep 128 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: relationships by the time he's prayed for. I don't get that. 129 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: But maybe it's because we're old, she said. 130 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: The response is not positive. It feels like looking for 131 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: her first time job. Tell them it's none of your 132 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: damn business what I've done. 133 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: But I wonder, why don't you want to know? Why 134 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: they're asking? I don't like it, And that's what I'm saying. 135 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, if you're a member of this club, 136 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: I don't want you know who wants to be a 137 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: member of the club you're a member of kind of 138 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: thing like who cares? But I think I think I 139 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: think women want to know more than men. Do you 140 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: agree with that? I think women want to know men's 141 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: pasts more than men want to know women's past. 142 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, because men just want to pretend nothing happen. 143 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Men want to believe they're the first one you've 144 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: got in bed with age. You're a virgin. You're a 145 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: virgin at fifty. That's right. I've never dated anyone. I'm 146 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: so glad I met you. Please get a life, honey, 147 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: don't worry about it. 148 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: Be you, Be you, and the right person isn't going 149 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: to worry about that, right, Yeah, I think Okay, this 150 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: one's probing Anonymous. 151 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: Hi. 152 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: I am sixty six years old. 153 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm a widow and I met a seventy year old 154 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: widower and we have been together for the last ten years. 155 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: We met when I was fifty five, and I felt 156 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: so lucky to find love at that age. 157 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: You are, and. 158 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm happy for you. 159 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: I was a lot thinner than I have been trying 160 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: to lose weight, but found out I have a fatty 161 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: liver and nodules on my thighroid. So I have been 162 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: eating clean and working out, but I haven't been able 163 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: to lose weight enough weight, and I feel like he 164 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: is no longer attracted to me since I have put 165 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: on this weight. I am so disappointed in this relationship, 166 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: and I think I may need to end it. I 167 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: hate the thought of starting over with someone new, and 168 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: I do feel like I am still attracted to him 169 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: and I do care for him, but I want to 170 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: go back to the way it was, and it just 171 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: isn't getting there. Whenever I say I'm not happy, he says, well, 172 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: find someone else. So I guess I need to do 173 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: just that. He also developed throat cancer and is getting 174 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: treatment for it, and I also don't feel right about 175 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: leaving him while he is going through this. 176 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: I'm in a tough spot. What would you do? Thanks? 177 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: Love you, gals. Oh good, A. 178 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: Lot to unpack there, you think again? You know so 179 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: many questions? I I mean a fat you know all 180 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: her health issues? I don't know. I know that you 181 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: can't and you shouldn't. No one should be fat shaming her. 182 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: So wait before we even get there. 183 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: He met, they love each other, and she put on weight, 184 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: so that's going to make him not love her anymore. 185 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: I have dated guys, Susan. I have dated men who 186 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 3: say they like dating me because I'm thin. They don't 187 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: want to date fat women. I've had a man tell 188 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: me that. 189 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: Well, that's funny. You're saying that it wasn't too long ago. 190 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: And I quote, you can never be too rich, too 191 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: tan or too thin. 192 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: Who said that. 193 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: I won't say a name, but yeah. 194 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: Okay, since I just had four things burned off my face, 195 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: trust me, you can be too tan. I don't know. 196 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 3: I think I think that she's got some issues here. 197 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: I you know, forgive me anonymous, but I feel like 198 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: I get to weigh in on this. No pun intended, 199 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: because I used to weigh two hundred pounds, so I 200 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: know that I struggled with how I felt and other 201 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: people saw me. And I think you are struggling a 202 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: little bit with your weight yourself. And all I can 203 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: tell you is forget the guy for a minute. If 204 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: you are uncomfortable the way you look, if it bothers 205 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: just you. 206 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't see here what he has done. She's assuming 207 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: he is. No, That's why I said I practed. 208 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: I said, it's I think it's more about her, and 209 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: we don't know if their sex life has deteriorated, if 210 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: it was ever there. But having been in her shoes 211 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: for a different reason, I'm guessing that she she is 212 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: attracted to him, but she probably feels she is not attractive, 213 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: she's not herself. She's not happy with herself. 214 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: She says, whenever I say I'm not happy, he said, 215 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: well find someone else, So I guess I need to 216 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: do that. That was odd think, you know, well goes 217 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: find somebody else, but went around going I'm not happy. 218 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm just not. You're not happy with yourself. That's what 219 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: I need to do. I self check because if you're 220 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: not one hundred percent, then you can't give an that's right. 221 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: And if you're unhappy with yourself, you know you can't 222 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 3: blame it on the other person. And I and I 223 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: feel for you that you've gained the weight and you've 224 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: lost some of your confidence. But deal with the issue 225 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: at hand. Make yourself feel better about who you are. 226 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: Because Anonymous, if you are looking for him to make 227 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 3: you happy, I don't care if you're five, fifteen or 228 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: fifty five. You got to be happy with yourself. Okay, 229 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 3: let's move on to our last question here. Susan and 230 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: Kathy loved the show and love all of your great advice. 231 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: It got me thinking about my own situation, and I 232 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: thought it would pop in to see what you have 233 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: for me. A lot of context for you, My dad 234 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: and I haven't always had the closest relationship, but have 235 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 3: gotten closer over the last decade since having my own kids. Recently, 236 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: he got married for a third time without telling me 237 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: or my sister and expected us to be happy for him. 238 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: While we expressed our congratulations, we both followed that with 239 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: the question did you get a preen up? When he 240 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: scoffed and told us, of course not, we almost lost 241 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: our minds. My dad has always worked very hard for 242 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: what he has and when through two divorces in his life, 243 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: including from my own mom. His late father, my dear Papa, 244 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: always taught him what it meant to leave a legacy 245 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 3: for the next generation. The entire family is on the 246 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: same page about his second wife having taken advantage of him, 247 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 3: but he claims this time it's different. Soon after the 248 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 3: surprise wedding, he presented my sister and me with his will. 249 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: It basically states that if he dies before his now wife, 250 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 3: we are to make sure she gets everything. We only 251 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: found out he was dating this woman the day of 252 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 3: my papa's funeral less than three years ago. She claims 253 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: she is not with my dad for his money, but 254 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: has liberally redecorated my entire childhood home and has made 255 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: some large purchases and she doesn't work either. I have 256 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: done my best to come to terms with the situation 257 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: to give myself some peace. My question is do I 258 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: have any right or am I crazy for feeling betrayed 259 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: and backhanded by my dad for his decision. I don't 260 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: want to come off as entitled, but my papa would 261 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: be rolling in his grave if he knew what my 262 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: dad did to his granddaughters. She's got kids of her 263 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 3: own that everything would be passed down to, and from 264 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: what I know, they don't have a very good relationship 265 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: at all. Thanks for bearing with my long winded question. 266 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: What do you think? Isan? 267 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a lot. 268 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: Well. I mean, it's happening for. 269 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: A man to want to take care of his wife, 270 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: the woman he loves, but that's your family, I mean 271 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: there is Yeah. 272 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: Wait, see you're agreed that there should have been a prenup. Yeah, okay, 273 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: So I have a different difference take on this. I 274 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 3: think he may there is. I think he may that that. 275 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: No one's arguing that he can do whatever he wants 276 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: to do. He earned the money, he can burn it, 277 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: he can give it away. I think he's clearly dated 278 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: this woman three years, so you know, if she's a 279 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: gold digger, she's waited three years. 280 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: And I think she redecorated. That's her home now, why, yeah, 281 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: it's her hot. I don't fault that. 282 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: I think I think the deal is. I don't blame 283 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: you for being upset Anonymous, that he didn't tell you. 284 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: I think that's sad for the family connection that you 285 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: know you and your sister were not told about the wedding. Clearly, 286 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: your dad, you know, moves from woman to woman because 287 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: he's been read wet three times three times. 288 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: Well, I don't judge him for that. 289 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. No, No, I'm saying he hasn't found 290 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: what he wanted. So it but but the but the 291 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: but the bottom line here is it's his money. He 292 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: earned it. And I think that the daughter who's writing this, Anonymous, 293 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: I think that if your dad had no money, you 294 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: wouldn't be having the issue that. I think the issue 295 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: would be centered around that you didn't get a chance 296 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: to meet or go to the wedding whatever you didn't know. 297 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: But for you, it's centered around the money because you 298 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: want it. And I'm not her girls, but you know what, 299 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: go earn your own money. He earned it, he can do. 300 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: I know that's not a popular thought. And in my 301 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: own case, you know, with my husband passing away, and 302 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: and he worked very hard for his money, and so 303 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: I want to leave our children some money. But I 304 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: have and but I have to live right and and 305 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: but this guy, Anonymous, his dad. This is a different 306 00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: situation his He divorced your mom and that's really sad. 307 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: But he is met this woman and says it's different. 308 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: And I say, whether it's different or not different, it's 309 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: his money, his choice. And I'll tell you something else. 310 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: She's got to say, maybe have a conversation with your dad, 311 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: Like what are you going to say, especially if there's 312 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: a lot of money, like dad, what about my kids? 313 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: What about Well? 314 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 3: I think she could do that. She did. The question 315 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 3: I had was she says something about the will. It 316 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: makes it sound like the kids are the executor or something, 317 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: and and they want her to make he wants the 318 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: kids to make sure his wife gets taken care of 319 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: for life. I would say, Anonymous, but he doesn't have 320 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 3: it in He said that. She said that, Uh, he 321 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: wants to make sure that she is taken care of. 322 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: That's and so I'm thinking, well, if well, then that's fair. 323 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: And that's his wife. Make sure you take care of 324 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: her too. 325 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: Well, that's the question, not you, but. 326 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: Her as well. That's what it sounds like, right. 327 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know money, money has. 328 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: Whether or not is none of her business. 329 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, money is broken apart more than one family. 330 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 2: Oh yes, it has, God bless. 331 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: But wouldn't you like to have a lot of it? 332 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: So we could have? 333 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 2: And she's worried that her kids are going to get 334 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: it all. He's not. 335 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't see here that she's getting everything and your 336 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: family isn't. Oh no, no, no, he comes making sure she's 337 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: getting I don't. 338 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: That's not the way I read it. I read it 339 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 3: that since it's not a pre. 340 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: Nup to make no, he did say and make sure 341 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: his now wife, we are to make sure she gets everything. 342 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: Is and that's what That's what I'm saying, Susan. If 343 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: it's not in the will that she gets everything, she's 344 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: not going anonymous. You can do whatever the hell you want. 345 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 1: Oh that's sticky, good luck, honey. I don't know if 346 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: we help that one cat. 347 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: It's hard money. I do want to play moral quandary 348 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: because I'm tired of talking about money. If I don't 349 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: have the money, I'm tired of talking about it. Let's 350 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: do it, all right, here we go, So we're. 351 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: Gonna take turns ring the quandary and given our thoughts 352 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: on what we would do. 353 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: Kathy, okay, start us off. 354 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 3: All right, But Susan, listen, sometimes you get mixed up 355 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 3: on this one. You're gonna guess. Oh God, here we 356 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 3: go guessing. You are going to guess what I would do, 357 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: and then I'm going to guess what you would do. 358 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: I always say, you always say what you would do. 359 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 3: Stop making about you. Okay, all right, here we are 360 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: the first one here. Your close friend's boyfriend tells you 361 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: he is planning to propose, But your friend just told 362 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: you they're planning to break up with them. Do you 363 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 3: tell really? Do you tell either of them? You? I 364 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: don't know why your friend is breaking up with them, 365 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: but they're going to do it very soon. What do 366 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: you do you? 367 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: No, No, Susan, I'm not saying what I'm doing. I 368 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: think you would tell them. 369 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: It's your friend. 370 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: You wouldn't tell you stay out of it. 371 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: Well, my wait a minute, my friend, there's a lot 372 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: of there's a lot of there's a lot of pronouns 373 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: in this question. Again, Well, so what I'm saying is 374 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: that were you and me and your boyfriend told you 375 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: that some guy was going to propose to me, and 376 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: I had just told you I was going to break 377 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: up with him, would I tell what would you tell me? 378 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 3: I think you would tell me Kathy or I tell 379 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: him go tell that guy don't do it? So who 380 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 3: would you tell me or the guy? 381 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: I'd probably tell the guy when he told me. 382 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I see, I wouldn't I'd come to you. 383 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: Or either of them. Yeah, I would tell you as well, 384 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: probably you know. 385 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 3: Oh see, I guess that you would. I guess that 386 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 3: you would tell me. What did you think I would do? 387 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: I think you would tell me? 388 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would tell you. I wouldn't go to the guy. 389 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: No brain? 390 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay? 391 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: Who could keep that in and watch it unfold like 392 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 2: that's well? 393 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: You know what's horrible is what she said. They say 394 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: she's going to do it very soon, But think about it. 395 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 3: What if you know the guy decided to propose tonight 396 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: to me, and and and and your boyfriend said it 397 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: was going to be next week, and I'm sitting there 398 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: and you knew it. Oh no boy? 399 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: Oh right, Okay, During a heated argument, your husband admits 400 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: he had an emotional affair four years ago. 401 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 2: It was right. 402 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: Around the time you were caring for your youngest when 403 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: they were a newborn, and it was with a coworker 404 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: that is still on his work team. 405 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: How do you move forward? 406 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 3: Wait? Can I just go back to the last question? Yeah, 407 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 3: maybe you shouldn't tell me because I'm going to get 408 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 3: the ring and then I'm going to break it off 409 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: and I'm going to keep the ring. Okay, that's a 410 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: funni area. This one's tough. Okay, I think what do 411 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 3: you think? What do you guys that I would do? 412 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: Well, it's not asking us what we would do though 413 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: during a heat. 414 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: How do I move forward? How do you think I 415 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 3: move forward? Well? 416 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. It was just an emotional one that 417 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: would hurt. 418 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: That was what would I do? Not you, Susan? 419 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: Now would you do? 420 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: You would. 421 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: Not be happy with it at all? You could do it? 422 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: You think I divorce it? 423 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: No, not divorce, but it would cause a strain and 424 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: you would have some issues with it as a buddy. 425 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: Would I was just going to say you across the strength. 426 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 3: You know what I would do, I would say, thank 427 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 3: you for sharing, but the fact that we're having heated 428 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: arguments and you know, we've got a four year old. Now, 429 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 3: I would say we might need to get some counseling 430 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 3: because this is going to be hard for me. You know, 431 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 3: an emotional affair. 432 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: Can be emotional thoughts of somebody else, or you're just 433 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: sharing an opening up. 434 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, but Susan, emotional scars are much deeper than. 435 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: Physical scars, That's right. 436 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: So I think I think you would talk to him, 437 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: but I think i'd have to do like some kind 438 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: of therapy because there's something wrong in the relationship. I mean, 439 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but you know, the guy 440 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: probably wasn't getting enough attention right when they had a newborn. So, 441 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 3: I mean that. 442 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: Happens a lot every day. 443 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: I know, Come on, God, because mommies are occupied with 444 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: the baby. 445 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 2: I know, don't do what mommies. 446 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: Do, Okay, but there's on dad's I get it. 447 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 3: Men, listen up. It's not that we don't love you. 448 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 3: It's that we birth this child, we're feeding this child. 449 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: We're responsible for it. 450 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 3: Well so's daddy. Daddy's responsible too, but literally that baby 451 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 3: has come from us, and you just gotta put on 452 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 3: your big boy pants for a little bit. Why we're 453 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: figuring out how to be a mom because it's new 454 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: to us, it's new to you. You can't be number 455 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: one all the time, so. 456 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: Let's just do the opposite of this. 457 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: They're having a heated argument and he admits that he 458 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: had an emotional affair. They're arguing, is it her that's 459 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: making him so unhappy? And he had nowhere else to go? 460 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: So I can't do I just hear that out of 461 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: your mouth? Did I just hear on your mouth? Probably 462 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: when I say why I do it? But you blame no, no, no, 463 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: you just blamed the woman for other side to it, 464 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: and the other side. You are going to blows on 465 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 3: this with me. A man, I will never You should 466 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: never excuse a bad behavior by a man. A woman 467 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: never makes a man have an affair, physical or emotional. 468 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 3: A man chooses to, as does a You not. 469 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: Think there's a difference between a physical affair and an 470 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 1: emotional affair? 471 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: Do you think that that's what I'm running. That's not 472 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You said, maybe she was this and 473 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 3: that and and so you forced him to have an affair, 474 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 3: argument said, and forced him to have an affair. A 475 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: man is never forced to have an affair. 476 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: Forced. 477 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, like he chose to do it because she was 478 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: being a mean bitch, not forced. 479 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: But he had nowhere to go. He needed to talk 480 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: to somebody quite possibly great, go get a therapist. But 481 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: you don't need to be talking to a coworker. Oh, Susan, jesus. 482 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: I have admitted it. Ever. 483 00:25:53,400 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 4: Cheater, cheater, cheater, All right, all right, here's the next one. 484 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: No, this is why we're both single. Okay, You and 485 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 3: your current boyfriend of six months run into his ex. 486 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: The interaction doesn't go well, and you find out that 487 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: they broke up because your boyfriend was unfaithful during their relationship. 488 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 3: How do you proceed? Do you sit down and talk 489 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: about it to get the full picture? Or do you 490 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: forget about it? Oh Susan, what you would do? You 491 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: know that guy's ask in a chair so fast, asking him, Yeah, 492 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: you're gonna we you're gonna have the talk? I wan? Yeah, 493 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 3: she wants details. 494 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: I think I asked the same thing. 495 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: You know what? I have to say? It would depend 496 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 3: how long ago the X was if it was you 497 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: know it was AE. Yeah, yeah, I could care less. 498 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 3: But if it was a recent X, I might want 499 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: to sit down, you're right, and and talk to him. 500 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 3: And I don't know that I would need the full picture. 501 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: But you know you said one time on another podcast, 502 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: once unfaithful, always unfaithful, you know, once a cheater, always 503 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 3: a cheater. 504 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: Not necessarily. 505 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: Oh no, you said that before. 506 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: I don't know think I said that. 507 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: So so men, you you think that man could cheat 508 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 3: and then never cheat again. 509 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 2: Yes, definitely. 510 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: Okay, So so then you would send him. 511 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Down because he learned from it, hopefully, But yeah, I 512 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: would send him there. 513 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 2: You're right. 514 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: You know I find interesting in these moral quandaries. It's 515 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: always the guy having the emotional fair's and we know 516 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: that's not the truth. We know that women do it too. 517 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: So those of you out there were not mann not 518 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 3: today attacking men. 519 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 2: Okay, all right? 520 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: You met or you meet your boyfriend's friends for the 521 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: first time and realize they all have much livelier and 522 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: more fun personalities, and they're all significantly, significantly more attractive 523 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: than your boyfriend. It's so obvious that it makes you 524 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: a little uncomfortable and a little disappointed. 525 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: Wants you to leave the hangout. How do you proceed? 526 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: What would I do? What do you think I would do? 527 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 2: Nothing? I think you're fine. 528 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: You're hair with him for a reason, and just because 529 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: some other ones were more fun, well the fun part. 530 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: It might hurt you, but more attractive. 531 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what, you know what I'm 532 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 3: reading when I'm reading this. Yeah, this girl's not that 533 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: into him. The other guys are more attractive, They're more fun. There. 534 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: She's uncomfortable and disappointed in her boy. Yeah, she clearly. So. 535 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 3: If this for me, it would be a wake up call, 536 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 3: Like you know, I wasn't. I'm not as into him 537 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: as I thought I was. These other guys are more 538 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: appealing you you, on the other hand, and would walk 539 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: In my opinion, you would walk away and make the 540 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: best of the situation and just think whatever. You know, 541 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: they're that on this one. 542 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: Night when he wasn't around, I might go hanging up 543 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: with the other guys. 544 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: Oh, so you're going to have the emotional affair, okay, or. 545 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: I'm there with him. 546 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: You're going to see nice looking, better looking, more fun 547 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: people in the world every damn day. You used to 548 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: be with him. So she's not or not this isn't 549 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: a question. 550 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: This is no, it's not a question, but exactly. But 551 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: I'm just saying for me, I would that would be 552 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 3: a wake up call to me, like, oh, maybe I'm 553 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 3: not as invested as I thought. I yeah, all right, 554 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: here's our last one. You overhear your You overhear your 555 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: mother in law talking to her a fair partner, on 556 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: the phone confirming she's going to file for divorce at 557 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 3: the end of the month. When she sees you and 558 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: realizes you overheard, she begs you not to say anything 559 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: your husband because she wants to tell him in a 560 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: few weeks once the process has started. Do you tell 561 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 3: him anyways? Or honor her wishes? Susan Knowles would be 562 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: to track to her husband to tell him. Am I right, 563 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: it's my mother in law? I just said, Would you 564 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: would not tell her tell your husband? 565 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 4: No? 566 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: She begged me not to say anything. 567 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 4: No. 568 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: I am not getting in the middle. 569 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: Of that, Okay, would I What would I do? 570 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: It's your mother in law? 571 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: Well, you weren't crazy about your mother in law, forget 572 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: she was crazy about you. You know what? 573 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 3: I had trouble my husband, I swear to God was 574 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: hatched from somewhere else, because he really was not anything 575 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: like his sisters. I'm just there to tell you. 576 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: To mind your own business. 577 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 3: No, I'm going to tell my husband because I'm married. 578 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: Yes, I realize ID begs you not to say anything 579 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: to you your husband. 580 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: I beg your pardon. I heard it as her husband. 581 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: Oh your fellow though, Oh hell yeah, yeah I thought 582 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 3: I When you said you wouldn't, I was like, what yeah, 583 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: and I and and yeah and you and you're right. 584 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: I would tell my husband if you didn't say it. 585 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 3: I'm standing for you, Mike. That's that's the meaning of 586 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 3: a relationship of a husband. You share everything with them 587 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: unless it to you and me, and then we share 588 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 3: everything because we don't have husbands. WHOA. 589 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: That was a lot. That really was a lot. 590 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 3: Okay, well that's it for this episode. Thank y'all so 591 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: much for writing in. And if you have questions for us, 592 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: submit them now. Just go to Bachelor's Happy Hour. 593 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Kathy. Can I interrupt for a second? There 594 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: is one more? 595 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: Where is it? 596 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: I have one? So how about if I just read this? Okay, 597 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: I actually have another one for us? 598 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: Is it on here? 599 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: Work with me? 600 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: Hi, Kathy and Susan. This question is mainly for Kathy 601 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: for the moment, as she has mentioned on previous podcasts 602 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: that no one has taken her up on asking her 603 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: for a date. But Papulu, as you're known by Ki 604 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: Ki by your grand youngsters, wouldn't mind telling the world 605 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: that I'd like to at least try. 606 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 607 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: I'll be sixteen nine in September, and I am a 608 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: widower since January twenty three. My wife and I were 609 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: married for forty three wonderful years and had no children 610 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: except for two wonderful pups, of which one passed of 611 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: old age at seventeen seventeen and a half years ago 612 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: last year as well, and I still have one Schnauzer 613 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: mix that's twelve and a half years. I'd be happy 614 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: to send current photos and yes they're all on touch. 615 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: It's really me. 616 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: I've slowly gotten back into the dating a little, but 617 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm truly rusty at this, but feel confident enough to 618 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: get back into this. Oh my god, hugs are a 619 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: big thing, as I grew up with my parents doing 620 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: that for me. 621 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: I have goosebumps, Oh my god, so do I. 622 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: I am a pianist organist for two churches with attendance 623 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: most times between eight and twenty people in a small 624 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: town east of where I live, and a third one 625 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: fifty miles away. I own my own my home outright 626 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: with no debt, but it's just too big for one person. 627 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of Barry Manilow and the Letterman 628 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: Trio singing group, and I even compos co compose the 629 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: score for an Osage ballet from twelve years ago, but 630 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: not limited to that. 631 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: Who knows I mean it. 632 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: I might eat and know your favorite songs and play 633 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: them for you and your family. I've already accepted an 634 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: invitation from someone else. You may gently tell me to 635 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: zip it lol, and let your sorority sisters from the 636 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: original Golden Bachelor know about me. 637 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 2: You too, Susan. 638 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: Blessings to you both, and thanks for reading and listening. 639 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: Papolu. 640 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: Everything you have read here is true. No lies here. 641 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: Don't have time for that. 642 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, got me. You just got ans own. 643 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: Baby. 644 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 3: Believe you did send your number, Papolu. So I'd love 645 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 3: to hear from you, Love to have you send the pictures, 646 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 3: love to talk with you. I had no idea this 647 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 3: was happening. I feel like I just walked into a 648 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 3: surprise party. 649 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: Did you see her trying to say, wait, where's mine? 650 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. Well I'm looking. 651 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't have surprise. Oh Susan, I'm going 652 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 3: to at you for this. Uh yeah, Papoulou. I don't 653 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 3: know anything about you other than what you said. But 654 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: I love Barry Manilow. My play them everywhere where does 655 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 3: he live? 656 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: He doesn't say? 657 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: Popolo? 658 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: Okay? 659 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: Populu reached back out. 660 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: And when is this airing? So you're not waiting to. 661 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 5: Oh, pa, you are adorable your first time. I just say, 662 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 5: so far for your approach. He yeah, really, I'll give 663 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 5: you a ten. He was married forty three or so. 664 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 5: He definitely knows about love. Yes, And and can I 665 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 5: tell you, Papulu, I also had a terrier Schnauzer uh 666 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 5: for years and had to put her down. 667 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: When she was fifteen. Oh very yeah, I mean you 668 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 3: gotta have Okay. 669 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: Well, I want to run with this. 670 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 3: No, you're not running with it, Susan. He reached out 671 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: to me. In case you won't, let's start over here. 672 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: Oh well, and you too, Susan. 673 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 3: You know what? He could wait a minute, he could 674 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 3: DM me on Instagram. 675 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 2: There you go, you're listening. That's the first step. 676 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 3: How does he find me out? 677 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: Make sure she checks them every day? 678 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: What is my Instagram? KB Swartz? I think it is 679 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 3: KB Swartz. 680 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 2: My goodness. Exciting. 681 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 3: It's so exciting. It's like I feel like I just 682 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 3: want a lot of new ticket. There's hope. There's always hope, Popolo. 683 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 3: I love that. Okay, I'm very interested to talk with you, Papulu. 684 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 3: I really am so thank you for reaching out reach 685 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 3: out to me on Instagram and I would love to 686 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 3: chat with you. That is, and you know what, thank you. 687 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 3: It takes a lot of courage to do that. So 688 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 3: thank you, thank you, thank you for reaching out and 689 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 3: I can't wait to talk with you. Wow. Okay, well 690 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 3: that definitely does it for another episode, I know. Thank 691 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 3: y'all so much for writing in, particularly you Populu, And 692 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 3: if you have questions for us, please submit them now. 693 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 3: Just go to Bachelorhappy Hour dot com slash Golden Hour 694 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 3: and ask away. You know, Papolou did it. You guys 695 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 3: can do it too. Send us your questions, your comments, 696 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 3: your reviews, your dating invitations. Were open to it all, 697 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 3: and make sure you subscribe to our podcast We have 698 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 3: new episodes on Wednesdays and Fridays with some really fun 699 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 3: guests coming up that you won't want to miss. Maybe 700 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 3: you Popolou, Yes Buffalo. 701 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 1: Listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio 702 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: hat or wherever you listen to your podcast and we'll 703 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: see you next time. 704 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: And Paypolu. 705 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 3: You're the best, the best. Take care guys by