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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It's

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Speaker 2: our two loaded good one tonight too. The forty nine.

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Speaker 1: Ers still haven't lost a blazing five pick yet three

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Speaker 1: oho to one. J McK and I have both had

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Speaker 1: good weekends.

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Speaker 2: Matt Hasselbeck's around the corner. So yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: All weekend long, people are complaining about the college football playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe this team got in and that team

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Speaker 1: got in. Go to March Madness. You keep telling me

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Speaker 1: that's the greatest sporting event in the world. They're like

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Speaker 1: twenty five teams that get into that thing. Unwatchable. Bottom line,

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Speaker 1: Do you get the top sixteen college basketball teams in?

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Speaker 1: Do you get the top sixteen in the rest of

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Speaker 1: It's filler? That's how I feel about this thing. Do

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Speaker 1: you get the top eight teams in? Hey got four

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Speaker 1: teams that you know, we know Texas probably better than

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Speaker 1: James Madison. I think we could agree Notre Dames better

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Speaker 1: than two Lane, but they had their opportunity. Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: played Texas and Miami couldn't win either. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: regular season's got to mean something, so I think the

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Speaker 1: college football playoff. I can't wait to watch the next

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Speaker 1: seven games. Here we go, Colin right, Colin wrong?

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: New England was my surprise playoff pick. Fourth year in

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Speaker 1: a row. My surprise playoff team has made it twelve

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Speaker 1: and three, tripled their win total, could still land the

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Speaker 1: number one seed. You know, it's amazing what they've done

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Speaker 1: offensively from thirty first to six.

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Speaker 2: The Kyle Williams great play.

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Speaker 1: We talked about him as he was a tremendously gifted

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Speaker 1: college player, Stefan Diggs, Hunter, Henry. It's a big playoffense

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Speaker 1: and it last year there was none of that juice.

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Speaker 2: So we got that one right. Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin once again secures a winning season. They could

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Speaker 1: actually win eleven games in Pittsburgh. Now, the game got

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Speaker 1: a little squirrely in the end, but make no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it, Pittsburgh was absolutely the better team holding Detroit

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Speaker 1: to fifteen rushing yards and listen, are they good enough

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Speaker 1: to win a playoff game? I don't know, but they

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Speaker 1: ran the ball. They haven't done that consistently in years.

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Speaker 1: Aaron has been tremendous. He gets him out of trouble,

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Speaker 1: no negative.

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Speaker 2: Plays in the end. I was wrong where Colin was

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Speaker 2: right slinging.

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Speaker 1: Sammy d leads his division, Seattle leads the NFL in

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Speaker 1: point differential. What's interesting with sam he's completing sixty seven percent.

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Speaker 2: Of his throat that's a career high.

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Speaker 1: But he's also the top in yards per attempt, so

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Speaker 1: it's no dinking dunk.

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Speaker 2: He's throwing the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four total touchdowns the last two years. He has

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Speaker 1: more passing touchdowns than Josh Allen, so first quarterback ever.

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Speaker 1: Back to back seasons, two different teams to win twelve games.

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Speaker 2: Right on Sammy where Colin was raw.

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Speaker 1: I love Trevor Lawrence for years, but all the turnovers

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Speaker 1: I surrendered. They were five and four after losing the Texans,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm done, and then they got in a heater.

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen deserves a ton of credit. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: have him in my hurt hierarchy until last week.

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Speaker 2: But they've just got a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of good players, you know what I mean. It's

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Speaker 1: like Parker Washington, where'd he come from? They could end

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Speaker 1: out of being lured into bad interceptions. They deserve all

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Speaker 1: the credit in the world. Just the minute I gave

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Speaker 2: He pivoted where Colin was right New York Jet.

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Speaker 1: Now, excuse me, New York Giant fans, Colin, you're crazy

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Speaker 1: thinking we should draft Fernando Mendoza. Yeah, Jackson Dart had

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Jackson Dart been a pleasant surprise.

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Speaker 2: You're the New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: You've been unwatchable for a decade. You got to consider.

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Speaker 2: Everything where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers start of the season one in three.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, this is a bush league operation.

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean Bryce Young extension.

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Speaker 1: He moves, he's got a star receiver, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: do we wish he was bigger and had a bigger arm. Probably,

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Speaker 1: But when I watched Carolina, I'm like, I just watched

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, Kaylen de Boor, don't listen to

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Speaker 1: the trolls. He is a top five head coach to

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna be Saban. First of all, the.

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Speaker 1: SEC now has Texas schools, it's deeper, the Big ten's better,

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Speaker 1: like Nick Saban could do. Even Kirby smart Georgia had

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Speaker 1: boor off of Nick Saban. That's as good as you

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, Miami Hurricanes kept saying, folks, watch

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Speaker 1: that Mario Crista ball. You don't trust him. Miami is

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Speaker 1: they got dudes. Now, can they beat Ohio State? I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if anybody can, but that defense will keep

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Speaker 1: Miami Hurricane doubters, sorry, they're legit. That defense as good

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Speaker 1: as anything, maybe even Ohio State's defense calling right wrong.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award

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Speaker 5: us telling you how great we are, here's how Dan

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Speaker 1: Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.

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Speaker 6: You took those clips totally of context.

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Speaker 2: Let me put this into context. Shut up. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's hour two, first hour flew by Live in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: It's the Herd.

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Speaker 1: Brought Purty seven on seven passing Drill last night. Those

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Speaker 1: secondaries both very mid as they say, all right, Nick

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Speaker 1: With those teams, but between the third best team in

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Speaker 2: Point and a half. Here we go in our herd.

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Speaker 4: Hierarchy heard hierarchy time, Now go the top ten NFL

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Speaker 4: teams according to College Number ten.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Josh Allen's hurt. Did you see the offense once

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Speaker 1: he went for an X ray? They've been held under

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Speaker 1: two hundred passing yards in three of the last four games.

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Speaker 1: They can't stop the run. I am not as high

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo as everybody else is. People keep seeing, well,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes does it make the playoffs? If you watch Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: you watched Denver, they're pretty good. Seen the Texans defense,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't see this as a team

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Speaker 1: that can win three playoff games. They have no passing

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Speaker 1: attack down field. Buffalo at ten, number nine, The Niners

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Speaker 2: No Bosa.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the last night's pass rush wasn't bad, but

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Speaker 1: in the back end. And Christian McCaffrey twenty seven touches,

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Speaker 1: seven touches. George Kittle's now hurt. Do you realize Kittle

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Speaker 1: this year is worth a touchdown? To their offense that

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Speaker 1: the Niners at nine, number eight.

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Speaker 1: Idea Woody Marx was that valuable. Texans were atrocious against

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Speaker 1: they could get to the conference championship. I like the coach,

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Speaker 1: run the football. I got Houston at eight, number seven,

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Speaker 1: and Denver just didn't play well. And the defense since

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Speaker 1: They had four hundred and forty five yards now. The

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Speaker 1: other thing, though, I will give them credit, teams that

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Speaker 1: tells you you should bet against the Jags this week.

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Speaker 2: Number six, the Jags.

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Speaker 1: They were four and five in the red zone, and

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Speaker 1: teams had struggled all year against the Broncos in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. Six game winning streak. Hard to run against them.

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Speaker 1: I like their story. I thought that game felt so

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Speaker 1: big for them. They were very intentional. Their receiving core

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Speaker 1: is the real deal. Listen, when you're bad for years

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville has dudes.

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Speaker 1: I like Philadelphia, Lane Johnson, Jalen Carter coming back. The

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Speaker 1: band is back together. There's only two teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: The Rams are one Phillies the other that are top

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Speaker 1: five in red zone offense and red zone defense. That's Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: At five number four. Bears beat them in Philly. I'll

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Speaker 2: put them four now.

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Speaker 1: They've played an easy schedule, but they're eleven and two

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Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. Their quarterback, Yeah, he's young, but

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Speaker 1: Weakest part of this team right now is their run game,

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Speaker 1: Now, Nick Wright, for the first time in his career,

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Speaker 1: I just there's so much about the Bills that worries me.

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Speaker 1: You've pivoted to Buffalo this year and it's a redeemable quality.

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Speaker 3: Last year, I was correct.

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Speaker 6: This year obviously, both years to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: This year the Chiefs let me down. On that end.

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Speaker 6: The Bills are who they've been, which is they have

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Speaker 6: Even though Stafford's having the great year and the supporting cast.

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Speaker 6: a wide open AFC. And I do think for Josh

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Speaker 6: So I just think I don't think Buffalo has the

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Speaker 6: my Jags.

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Speaker 3: Colin oh Man.

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Speaker 6: I told you a month ago, what if Trevor went

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Speaker 3: I didn't know what was gonna happen right now.

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Speaker 6: I didn't know what was gonna happen, hapen Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: It has been great.

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Speaker 1: Now I want to It's funny so years and years ago,

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Speaker 2: Where boy, they.

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Speaker 1: Look good, there's a lot of good man. They look good,

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Speaker 1: but I don't trust him on a long Roadie, why

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Speaker 6: I don't know that I can't fully trust him. But

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Speaker 3: He's been excellent, he has.

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Speaker 6: Been awesome, and as much as I love and I

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Speaker 3: He wasn't taking as serious.

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Speaker 3: I do not think his.

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Speaker 3: The all Pro quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: What Trevor's problem had been was his twenty worst plays

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Speaker 6: And he's the last month he has kept the highlight

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Speaker 6: this run, Colin, they are beating teams by an average

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Speaker 3: Believes in us since the whole.

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Speaker 6: Media and your guys Sean Payton all made fun of

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Speaker 2: So you know, a couple of years ago, I said.

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Speaker 1: So it's hard, wide receivers hard. It's an emotional position.

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Speaker 1: Is there any party of the worries that the best

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Speaker 6: So here's the thing I worry is not the word

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Speaker 6: I like the Patriots' best stretch ever twenty eleven to eighteen.

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Speaker 3: I think they will go.

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Speaker 6: Into every season in over the next I believe five

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Speaker 6: So I think they are going to get back to

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Speaker 6: I think we saw on Sunday how much the offensive

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Speaker 6: need to retool some things offensively, most notably the running

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Speaker 1: So I'm always fascinated by unicorns, people that do things,

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Speaker 1: I talked to all these gms. They're like, he's not

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Speaker 1: very accurate, he's kind of moody. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: he's elite. And now you're watching the Dysfunctional Bears and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna win this incredible division. You know before the

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Speaker 1: season where he's at the best division, and it's fascinating.

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Speaker 1: I don't worry about the completion percentage, but it is

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Speaker 1: rare that you'd be like because Cam was in the

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Speaker 1: fifty nine to sixty but I think Caleb's I think

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Speaker 1: his ceiling's more consistent than Cam because Cam's personality was

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Speaker 1: kind of distracted.

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Speaker 2: Are we you? Is it possible we are looking? I

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Speaker 2: said this a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Is he a shorter Josh Allen's there's nothing else like him.

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Speaker 2: On the that even looks like him?

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Speaker 6: What do you make of his personality? So the Jucks

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Speaker 6: so all of it. So listen the Josh Allen comp.

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Speaker 6: I struggled with only because Josh so much of Josh's

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Speaker 6: greatness is just brute force, just how big and strong

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Speaker 6: and so like the So I I that comp. I

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Speaker 6: can't wrap my mind around. But so let me just

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Speaker 6: go through all of it. The fact of the matter is,

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Speaker 6: and people were, you know, kind of dancing around it.

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of.

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Speaker 6: Without saying it, people are like, ah, I think the

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Speaker 6: guy's too effeminate. That they didn't like that he cried,

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Speaker 6: They didn't like that he painted his nails, and they

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Speaker 6: didn't like that He was fine with it like that

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Speaker 6: he was He knew people were gonna have that criticism

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Speaker 6: and he didn't care. I thought that critique from the

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Speaker 6: beginning was nonsense. People were like, ah, well, locker rooms

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Speaker 6: follow him. And the answer is if he's good, absolutely

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Speaker 6: like nobody knows. As long as he's good, no one

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Speaker 6: will care. And if he's bad, you know, all of

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Speaker 6: a sudden, not painting his fingernails won't do anything. So

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Speaker 6: that I dismissed that criticism. The him not being great

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Speaker 6: at layups is a fair critique. But if you were

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Speaker 6: to ask me Colin, here are fifteen traits that make

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Speaker 6: a quarterback make up an NFL quarterback. Pick one that

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Speaker 6: is most fixable, I would say, not great at layups.

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Speaker 6: The stuff he is great at not only is it

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Speaker 6: not like fixable, it's not teachable, right, And so give

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Speaker 6: me the guy who has the inherent greatness in him,

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Speaker 6: and then pair him with someone like Ben Johnson whose

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Speaker 6: job it is to help him with the other stuff.

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Speaker 6: I would say this after last year hit I thought

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Speaker 6: he finish his rookie year.

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Speaker 3: Well behind schedule.

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Speaker 6: I think now he's not only on schedule, but ahead

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Speaker 6: of schedule. And still the completion percentage is crummy, and

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Speaker 6: if not for an onside kick recovery, he wouldn't have

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Speaker 6: gotten any of the highlight moments that we got against

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Speaker 6: the Packers. But after that onside kick.

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Speaker 3: The fourth and.

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Speaker 6: Four play was unbelievable, and the throw in overtime might

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Speaker 6: have been the play of the year in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: And he's young and he's figuring it out, and Ben

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Speaker 6: Johnson is, you know, ushering him along. So I love

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Speaker 6: what he's doing. I believe in the Bears to a degree.

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Speaker 6: Do I think they're gonna win four playoff games to

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Speaker 6: win the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 6: But do I think that nobody wants to play them? Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: One small critique about the Bears, and this was Ben

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Speaker 6: Johnson's issue in Detroit two, And I like Ben, you

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Speaker 6: can be a little too cute for school sometimes. Buddy,

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Speaker 6: it's fourth and one in the first.

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Speaker 3: Quarter against the Packers.

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Speaker 6: Maybe that's not when you call your trick play that

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Speaker 6: involves aping the ball between your tight ends, legs two

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Speaker 6: your five to nine running backs so he can throw

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Speaker 6: a pass to your quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Maybe save that one for a.

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Speaker 6: Lower leverage moment. But I think overall, Bears fan's got

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Speaker 6: to be over the moon.

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Speaker 1: By the way, m My only criticism ever of McVeigh

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Speaker 1: was in his first two or three years, he showed

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Speaker 1: off a little bit. He would do stuff you're like

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Speaker 1: on run the ball, Todd Gurley, Let's just do that, okay, correct.

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Speaker 1: I want to show you know America should be proud

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Speaker 1: of us. You now have pivoted to a pro Bills guy,

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Speaker 1: and I am an abject Charger Homer because I love

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Speaker 1: Herbert and hardball.

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Speaker 2: They did not make my Herd hierarchy.

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Speaker 6: I was shocked by that, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you about it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I put him at eleven. And my takeaway

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Speaker 1: is I have to put Josh Allen in. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what to do with the Chargers. Where do you

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Speaker 1: put him on that list? Well, that's my problem I am.

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Speaker 3: So here's what my response would be.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not as high on the Chargers as you

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Speaker 6: obviously are. Is our pal Danny Parkins, who I'm pretty

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Speaker 6: sure thanks Justin. Herbert's the third or fourth greatest quarterback

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Speaker 6: in the history of the NFL. I think they're better

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Speaker 6: than the Texans right now. So the Texans, I don't

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Speaker 6: know how much people watch Texans Raiders well, but the

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Speaker 6: Texans offense, Colin is a problem. And here is my

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Speaker 6: Here would be my concern for Houston because I like Demiko.

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Speaker 6: The defense is obviously sensational when the fourteen teams, i'm sorry,

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Speaker 6: the seven teams that make the AFC Playoffs, if we

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Speaker 6: were to power rank each team's offense and defense, so

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Speaker 6: like the number one unit might be Denver's defense. Number

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Speaker 6: two might be the Texans defense, Number three, Bill's offense,

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Speaker 6: whatever on down would fourteenth be the Houston Texans offense.

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Speaker 6: Are they going to walk into the AFC Playoffs with

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Speaker 6: the worst unit offense or defense of either of any

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Speaker 6: team in it? I think they might and so that,

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Speaker 6: but I agree with you. I would have the Bills

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Speaker 6: ahead of the Chargers. I think the job that Kyle

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Speaker 6: Shanahan's done with San Francisco is unbelievable. And Colin, just

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Speaker 6: so you know, be ready, I can't believe we're gonna

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Speaker 6: be pulled into it again.

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Speaker 3: But after you and.

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Speaker 6: I one declared victory was drawing borders for the Great

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Speaker 6: brock Purty War of the twenty twenties, we're back in it.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 6: Everyone's gonna forget that Mac Jones did all the exact

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Speaker 6: same stuff, and we're gonna hear about how elite this

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Speaker 6: player is after last night, but the night so, I

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Speaker 6: think all of those teams except for the Texans. I

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Speaker 6: think i'd have ahead of the Chargers, so the Texans

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Speaker 6: would be the spot. But I appreciate your integrity by

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Speaker 6: not having, you know, just fitting in your beloved Los

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Speaker 6: Angeles Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I like to put friends in the hurt higher argu

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. I had them at eleven.

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Speaker 1: Nick right is always buddy.

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Speaker 3: Great stuff, great to see. I see account.

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Speaker 2: I did this last night.

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Speaker 1: I sent it to Kyle, our producer, after the Niners game,

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Speaker 1: and I sat there and I literally had Chargers jumping

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Speaker 1: over like a fence. I was having these weird dreams.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what am I doing? These are my friends.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with them. Buffalo's got

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Speaker 2: to be in it.

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Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 4: in noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 4: FS one and the iHeartRadio app Let's Blaze it Up,

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Speaker 4: Fired Up, It's Collins Blazon, Fuck Texans a Chargers.

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Speaker 1: I like the Texans plus two and a half seven

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Speaker 1: game winning streak. They clinch a playoff berth with a win.

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Speaker 1: They're only loss by more than three points one against Seattle.

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Speaker 1: That's it, Well, Seattle, beats up with a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Woody Marx is back huge part of their offense. The

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Speaker 1: Chargers eighteenth in the NFL on offense since Week eleven

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Speaker 1: because their offensive line is using backups. Three of the

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Speaker 1: chargers four wins during their four game winning streak have

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Speaker 1: come against the Raiders, Chiefs, and Cowboys. The Texans defense

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Speaker 1: is so good.

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Speaker 2: Even on the road.

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Speaker 1: It's dominating number one in the league. I'm taking the points.

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Speaker 1: Texans twenty three, Chargers twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Take the points. Seahawks at Panthers.

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Speaker 1: I wish it was seven and a half, but I'll

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Speaker 1: take it at seven. Panthers at home, fighting to win

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Speaker 1: the NFC South one game lead over Tampa.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking the points.

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Speaker 1: Anybody noticing Bryce Young in the last month, last three games,

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Speaker 1: He's a pro bowler, six touchdowns, no picks. He's been

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Speaker 1: on fire in the last three game. The Seahawks are

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Speaker 1: coming off a tough, physical, overtime game season high ninety

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Speaker 1: two defensive snaps against the Rams. The last two games,

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Speaker 1: they won both at home by a combined three points.

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Speaker 1: The offense for Seattle doesn't quite feel right. This is

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Speaker 1: a long trip. They could be looking ahead of the playoffs. Oh,

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Speaker 1: just beat the Rams. We're amazing Seattle wins. I'm absolutely

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Speaker 1: taking the points here. Twenty seven to twenty three Hawks

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Speaker 1: Eagles at Bills. I'm in the minority. I like Philly

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Speaker 1: plus two and a half. Great run team, bad run defense.

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Speaker 1: They're thirty five and two when they win the turnover

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Speaker 1: battle under Nick Siriani's seven to zero this year, and

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Speaker 1: they usually do. Jalen herts the last two weeks. Something

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Speaker 1: is working, even Greg Cosel told us Sakuon Barkley last

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Speaker 1: three games, averaging five and a half of carry.

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Speaker 2: The A line now getting healthy, folks.

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Speaker 1: The Bills have trailed in each of their last eight games.

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Speaker 1: They've trailed in the second half of six of their

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Speaker 1: last seven. They play with their food. They're not good

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Speaker 1: on third down. The Bills can't defend the run. I'm

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Speaker 1: taking the Eagles and the points better overall roster twenty

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Speaker 1: eight twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Philly Bears at forty nine er.

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Speaker 1: I like Chicago with extra rest plus three Dj Moore

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Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: Last five games.

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Speaker 1: DJ moris five touchdown catches, tied for most in the league.

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Speaker 1: The offense. He get all the big plays without any

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Speaker 1: other turnovers. Listen, the Niners are hot, but four of

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Speaker 1: their five wins came against Cleveland, Arizona, the Titans, and

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Speaker 1: the Colts brought purty trailing this year. Is a different

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Speaker 1: quarterback sixty three percent completion percentage and their defense. Here's

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Speaker 1: the story of the game. The Niners defense not only

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Speaker 1: has the fewest sacks in the NFL, seven fewer than

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Speaker 1: the next fewest, and opposing quarterbacks have a passer rating

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Speaker 1: of one to oh one against the Niners. Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: just came off a twenty seven touch game. The Niners

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Speaker 1: are zero to four off McCaffrey games where he's got

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Speaker 1: twenty seven or more touches. Bears win it take the

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Speaker 1: points twenty eight to twenty.

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Speaker 2: Seven Cardinals at Bengals.

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Speaker 1: I like the over fifty three and a half twenty

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Speaker 1: ninth ranked scoring defense against the worst ranked defense, banged

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Speaker 1: up defenses that are bad to begin with. The weather

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little wet temperature not a factor.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals defense is bad and it's gotten worse. Allowed

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Speaker 1: forty plus points in two of their last three games.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals. They're averaging twenty seven a game with Burrow.

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Speaker 1: So you're talking about atrocious defenses, banged up. I like

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati to win the game. I think it's a bit

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Speaker 1: of a shootout. I'm gonna take the over Cincinnati Arizona

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Speaker 1: over fifty three and a half points, thirty.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seven Bengals win.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of underdogs have not done that once

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Speaker 1: this year four underdogs and one over