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Speaker 3: Oh and it was a bad ending once again to

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Speaker 3: that book for the Miami Dolphins, thirty one to twenty one.

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Speaker 3: The Buffalo Bills win on Thursday Night Football over the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: That was Chris Brown on WGR. We are getting used

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Speaker 3: because the Bills just keep winning three to zero on

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Speaker 3: the season. Another efficient offensive performance by the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 3: offense Nick Shook just until the moment that they needed

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Speaker 3: a game winning drive and then a big time mistake

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the third straight different, different style of game

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Speaker 4: they win a close one because their defense steps up

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Speaker 4: entertaining game, but an entertaining game if you like close

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Speaker 3: can't say it was shocking, Nick, because it took me

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna mention that.

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Speaker 3: But the way they got there with great running really

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Speaker 3: That to me were the symbols of you know what

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Speaker 3: One and he didn't complete it. It was a dime.

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Speaker 3: It could have been a touchdown. And the defender who

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins in the Patriots last week and saw the

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Speaker 3: And then on the other side, you know, before we

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Speaker 4: No, I thought that the Dolphins might tie the game,

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Speaker 4: But what you know, I think about that one deep ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get the instinct to give them a pat

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Speaker 1: It's still zero to three.

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Speaker 1: And this is what this game kind of required out

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Speaker 4: I actually really like this matchup because it was a

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Speaker 4: There's one time where Alan scrambles for a big game,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I follow some Bills fans on Blue Sky and

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Wait when he got one of the most fun touchdowns

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Speaker 4: Allen drew center on first and goal from the five.

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Speaker 2: Motion from Hawes, fakes the snap, Allan gonna roll left

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Speaker 3: It reminds you of Brett Farv a little. He flicks

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Speaker 4: It was a flick that probably could have been like

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Speaker 4: Didn't need to necessarily flick that ball. But it just

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Speaker 3: should be he's in the top ten?

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Speaker 1: Oh, top ten?

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Speaker 1: He might be top three, top one.

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Speaker 4: Who do you remember Spencer Hawes as because I remember

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Speaker 3: I barely remember him. I don't know how that name

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Speaker 3: who's mostly out there blocking. And while we're talking blocking,

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Speaker 3: this Buffalo run game is where everything starts, and the

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Speaker 3: like it was a lot of RPO nonsense or anything

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Speaker 3: like that. It's just their straight ahead running game. James

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Speaker 3: success rate for the season is just through the roof.

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Speaker 3: He is taking advantage of great blocking and then he

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Speaker 3: that was much lower, I'm much higher until late in

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Speaker 1: So I've been really impressed by them.

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Speaker 3: And one thing that stands out, you can you can

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Speaker 3: the wide receivers block really well, like the tight ends

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like Bills fans to understand one thing.

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Speaker 4: You're not going to get the explosive plays you yearn

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Speaker 4: stretching weapons. And that's fine because you've traded stretching the

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Speaker 4: It's producing first hass for James Cooking, which he goes

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Speaker 4: seven for like seventy four, which is an insane rate.

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Speaker 4: And it just makes you a more threatening team and

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Speaker 4: a big one. Your explosive plays are probably gonna come

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Speaker 4: it'd be a lot different story if he wasn't on

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Speaker 1: Oh, he was never going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: But they they treated him well like they should, even

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Speaker 3: though he had still a year on his contract. I'm

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Speaker 3: surprised Ray Davis isn't getting more run because he's a

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Speaker 3: Johnson's in there as a good third down back so

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Speaker 3: he's out there like they have a lot of weapons.

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Speaker 3: Like Kincaid had a nice night, five for sixty six,

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Speaker 3: he stayed a little more upright, but Minko Fitzpatrick got

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Speaker 3: three for twenty and yet I've been impressed each and

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Speaker 3: Kean Coleman. You mentioned the touchdown drive. So the Dolphins

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Speaker 3: tie it twenty one all in the fourth quarter. We

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Speaker 3: do what they do. They went right down the field,

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Speaker 3: finishing with a touchdown to Khalil Shakir.

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Speaker 2: Shakira in motion left to right and now in an

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Speaker 1: To the end zone, and he's in.

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Speaker 2: It's a fifteen yard screen pass for a touchdown as

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Speaker 2: Shakir got great blocking down field, got up the sideline

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Speaker 1: And the Bills have the lead back again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was Dawson Knox with some good

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Speaker 1: So this is a good time.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's pivot over to the Dolphins side, where the

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Speaker 3: defense just hasn't provided a lot of resistance. There wasn't

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Speaker 3: that drive that they were going to make a stop.

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Speaker 3: Nick there. They're paying a lot of guys up front tonight.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they really had a chance to make

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Speaker 1: Like what are you seeing out of this Dolphins defense?

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Speaker 4: You know, they get pressure or they at least cause

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Speaker 4: picture is inconsistent. And we know the injuries that they've

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Speaker 3: this game. Yeah, and then Jack Jones came back in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So you're thin, like your thin back there. And

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Speaker 4: a penalty that was just completely unnecessary tonight. But I

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Speaker 4: they're going to keep you competitive. It's just a matter

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Speaker 4: and Brady was playing a little bit conservative in his

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Speaker 4: that the Dolphins were all over. It was a good

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Speaker 4: because they've been very hit or missed, but they were

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Speaker 4: the second half. So it's hard to say which side

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Speaker 1: The offensive side is better the defense.

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Speaker 4: Because here's the thing. The defense does stink, except they

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Speaker 4: forced three punts in the second half and kept them

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at it here and I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: That was my feel from the game.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the Dolphins defense, they actually competed, They figured out something.

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Speaker 1: They were trying a lot.

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Speaker 3: I sometimes I'm looking at all the crazy, you know

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Speaker 3: So I think we are three games now into the

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Speaker 3: they had none against the Colts, they forced two punts

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Speaker 3: was just a low possession game where they're you know,

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Speaker 3: that interception, and so before that you had three touchdowns

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Speaker 3: Scoring three points to drive like that, that's great, but man,

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Speaker 3: they are working hard to do it. And you mentioned

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Speaker 3: like a sign it's not really the Dolphins offense that

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Speaker 4: Yes, but actually do this. It was kind of a

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Speaker 4: gross game by halftime, because like they got down there

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Speaker 4: it was chaotic getting down there. It was not clean offense.

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Speaker 4: It just happened to work. The second half was much

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Speaker 4: better for them offensively. Yeah, you're right, like, this is

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Speaker 4: it's about details. Like the details kind of lost them

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Speaker 4: But the beauty of that is that they were that

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Speaker 4: That throw to Tyreek Hill was exquisite. That was two

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Speaker 4: I know he's going to be there. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's the thing. He really did pull off

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Speaker 1: And they were tied in this game.

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Speaker 3: Because you know, we've been so hard on the Dolphins here,

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Speaker 3: off that second quarter drive, I thought, Okay, we're actually

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Speaker 3: in this game.

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Speaker 2: Four cracks of the adsor fact to throw slat pattern

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Speaker 2: Wnald touchdown highs.

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Speaker 1: Throw, great call and a terrific patter by water.

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Speaker 4: What a great drive.

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Speaker 1: Wow, one of my favorite touchdown celebrations.

445
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Speaker 3: Jalen Watdall finishes with five for thirty nine and a touchdown,

446
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Speaker 3: rewarding his fantasy owners that had some faith tonight, like

447
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 3: tyreek Hill, I thought other than that one drop which

448
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 3: was big on the deep ball and that was a

449
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Speaker 3: it was a balloon. But ultimately I think tyreek Kill

450
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Speaker 3: would admit that he should have that ball. He jumps

451
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Speaker 3: and gets his hands on it. He finishes with five

452
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Speaker 3: catches forty nine yards, a touchdown, and an eventual backflip

453
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Speaker 3: on that throw that you were talking about in the

454
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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, which was just a terrific route by tyreek Kill. Ultimately, though,

455
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Speaker 3: like it's a good running game, a Chan and Ali

456
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,000
Speaker 3: Gordon ran the ball very well. Their success rate has

457
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Speaker 3: been actually pretty consistently high all season and was excellent tonight.

458
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Speaker 3: I have questions about the Bills defense overall, like long term,

459
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Speaker 3: Oh you to two, what are your questions?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just I'm glad that we've gotten there. Because

461
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Speaker 4: you made the point about the Dolphins maybe not having

462
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Speaker 4: the personnel on that side of the ball. I don't

463
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Speaker 4: know if the Bills do either, and I don't know

464
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Speaker 4: if Sean McDermott has admitted that yet. Because that sequence

465
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Speaker 4: that led to that touchdown just before the end of

466
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Speaker 4: the first half was a display of how McDermott. I

467
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Speaker 4: think trust his guys more than he should in the

468
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Speaker 4: way that he approaches defense. They ran a lot of man,

469
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Speaker 4: they gave a lot of man looks, and that's fine,

470
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Speaker 4: But that instance when Tua throws a touchdown pass, I

471
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Speaker 4: have no idea why they called the defense that they

472
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Speaker 4: called like they're double mugging the a gap. They got

473
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Speaker 4: Tredavious White out wide against Jalen Waddle playing soft off coverage.

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Speaker 4: You're going to bring pressure, why not try to press

475
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Speaker 4: the line, because if you're gonna speed up the quarterback,

476
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Speaker 4: make the route harder to run. He plays often it's

477
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Speaker 4: the easiest slant I've seen a long time, and it

478
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Speaker 4: was one of many where I think in the second

479
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Speaker 4: half when the Dolphins were, you know, marching down the

480
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Speaker 4: field slowly, I mean crawling down the field kind of.

481
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Speaker 4: There were a couple of instances in which they convert

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Speaker 4: third downs, a lot of passes to Waddle near or

483
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Speaker 4: outside the numbers, where they're showing pressure and changing coverage,

484
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 4: rolling the shell at the last second and asking Cole

485
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Speaker 4: Bishop to run from the hash to the numbers like

486
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Speaker 4: an undercut a route. And I'm just like, do you

487
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Speaker 4: understand that you don't really have the guys to do

488
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Speaker 4: all this exotic stuff, that you don't need to necessarily

489
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Speaker 4: do all this exotic stuff. I think that's a big

490
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Speaker 4: reason why that they were They struggled to get stops

491
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Speaker 4: in this game tonight, and it's correctable, but it concerns

492
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Speaker 4: me just about their long term approach. They need to

493
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Speaker 4: look in the mirror a little bit and be like,

494
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Speaker 4: maybe we shouldn't get that adventurous with our play calling Defensively.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's going to show up for them.

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Speaker 3: They're going to have such an interesting regular season, and

497
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Speaker 3: I think their fans might get annoyed because I think

498
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Speaker 3: this defense is going to struggle. Our friend Jordan Rodrigg

499
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Speaker 3: is right with you, and she has big concerns about

500
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Speaker 3: this defense. And yet it might not really show up

501
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Speaker 3: because they're going to keep winning. Like the AFC East

502
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 3: out of division schedule is so easy because you play

503
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Speaker 3: the NFC South, and like, for instance, the Bill's upcoming

504
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Speaker 3: games Saints Patriots at Falcons, that's a little trick. I

505
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: guess at Panthers it's like it's gonna be a while.

506
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: You then get the Chiefs in the back end the

507
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Speaker 3: Eagles are in Week seventeen. But for the most part,

508
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Speaker 3: it's games that they're gonna be heavily favored and that

509
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: they can win shootouts or games like this when they

510
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Speaker 3: need to. That's just how they're built, and that's just

511
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Speaker 3: how the schedule comes up this year. By the way,

512
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Speaker 3: the Dolphins at zero to three, and we're going to

513
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Speaker 3: talk about Mike McDaniel and his future in a second

514
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Speaker 3: after the break. Do have a softer part of the

515
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Speaker 3: schedule coming up with the Jets and a game at

516
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Speaker 3: the Panthers. But those two teams are also looking at

517
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Speaker 3: the schedule and thinking, oh, great, we get to play

518
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Speaker 3: the Dolphins. So it's like every fan base, like the

519
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Speaker 3: thinks that way. But it's like the Jets are also thinking, Okay,

520
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Speaker 3: that's a possible to win, and only one of them

521
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Speaker 3: is going to get it. So I always think to

522
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Speaker 3: fear the moral victory. All right, let's take that break.

523
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Speaker 3: On the other side, we are going to talk about

524
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Speaker 3: coaches potentially on the hot seat. It's a little early,

525
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Speaker 3: but I think with the Dolphins tonight being in primetime,

526
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Speaker 3: I just thought like, let's think about like an early

527
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Speaker 3: watch list of these coaches, and I don't think tonight

528
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Speaker 3: necessarily got Mike McDaniel off that watchless and we will

529
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Speaker 3: also do a little bit of.

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Speaker 1: News before getting out of here.

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Speaker 3: Back at NFL Daily, all right, little early. I feel

532
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Speaker 3: bad about this, but I just thought the McDaniel situation

533
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Speaker 3: is worth talking about big picture. When you hear a

534
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Speaker 3: report like that from Ian Rappaport before the game, this

535
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Speaker 3: is a game where I think people will feel better

536
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Speaker 3: about their effort. It will maybe calm the waters a

537
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Speaker 3: little bit, but ultimately they're still zero and three. And

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Speaker 3: I just started thinking about like the different possible coaches

539
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Speaker 3: that we're just going to be keeping an eye on

540
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Speaker 3: this year, and I think the Dolphins unfortunately have that

541
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Speaker 3: feeling to it. Nick at at oh and three Yet

542
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: looks great that you have a couple games that are

543
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Speaker 3: favorable on the schedule coming up with the Jets and

544
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Speaker 3: the Panthers for instance, then the Chargers and then at Browns.

545
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Speaker 3: But losing those types of games are also the kind

546
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Speaker 3: of moments that get you fired, Like if they go

547
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Speaker 3: oh and two, if they go oh and two against

548
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Speaker 3: the Jets and Panthers, like it's it's probably a rap

549
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Speaker 3: if you split those two games lose to the Chargers

550
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Speaker 3: and lose to the Browns like that, that could be trouble.

551
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Speaker 3: So they could do a few different things here. They

552
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Speaker 3: could have Mike McDaniel use Anthony Weaver as a bit

553
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Speaker 3: of a scapegoat because the defense is struggling and that

554
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Speaker 3: happens first before McDaniel firing, or you make Anthony Weaver

555
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Speaker 3: the interim head coach. Either way, I just feel like

556
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Speaker 3: we've kind of been through this story before with Miami

557
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: and they are going to need to win fast, and

558
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: they're going to need to do it with everyone watching

559
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Speaker 3: because they're in primetime again next week. The NFL schedule

560
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Speaker 3: makers probably not through with that one right now.

561
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Speaker 4: No, No, I can't imagine they would be. I you're

562
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Speaker 4: absolutely right. Like the point you made about the schedule

563
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Speaker 4: and the mattress that you have, you have to realistically,

564
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Speaker 4: if you really want to get this, you want to

565
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 4: quiet this conversation. You're not going to silence it, but

566
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Speaker 4: do you want to quiet it? You beat the Jets

567
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Speaker 4: and the Panthers. Luckily you get the Jets at home,

568
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: you do get them on a primetime stage though pressure's there.

569
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Speaker 4: But I also kind of want to think that the

570
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks have slowly crept back out of

571
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Speaker 4: the dark place that they were in after Week one,

572
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Speaker 4: Like Week won, the body language was bad, the performance

573
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: was worse. Last week. You know, they were competitive, and

574
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Speaker 4: then you know they had the blunders in the fourth

575
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Speaker 4: quarter giving up the kickoff return touchdown, you know, kind

576
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 4: of falling apart offensively that hurt them. Tonight was their

577
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 4: best showing this season. Like this is an zero to

578
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Speaker 4: two team playing a two and oh team that's expected

579
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Speaker 4: to contend for a Super Bowl, and they're right there

580
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Speaker 4: with them throughout the game. Kind of a weird game,

581
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Speaker 4: but they're right there with them throughout the game. If

582
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Speaker 4: you can take that momentum into the next couple of

583
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Speaker 4: weeks and win a couple of games, yeah, you can

584
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Speaker 4: stave off the vultures for a couple of weeks. And

585
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Speaker 4: the players, Tyreek Hill's body language was a lot better

586
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Speaker 4: than it was in the last couple weeks, and they

587
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 4: performed better as a team again though it comes down

588
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: to details. It comes down to the roughing the punter

589
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 4: call that then buys the bills of fresh set downs

590
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Speaker 4: and they go down and score a touchdown. It's the

591
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Speaker 4: small things if those small things keep just stacking up

592
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: against the Jets and the Panthers and they cost you games,

593
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Speaker 4: then that change is gonna come quickly. He's definitely a

594
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Speaker 4: top that list right now because of all the expectation

595
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Speaker 4: that came with the Dolphins and how they've started this

596
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Speaker 4: so far the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have mentioned that. That's a bad job

598
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Speaker 1: by me.

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Speaker 3: The Zach Sealer roughing the punter penalty really turned the

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Speaker 3: game around, because I said, look, the Bills do what

601
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Speaker 3: they do. They go on a touchdown drive when you

602
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Speaker 3: absolutely need it. But they wouldn't have if not for

603
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Speaker 3: Seiler hitting the punter on a play where it looked

604
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Speaker 3: like they had left a lot of their starters in

605
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Speaker 3: like they weren't supposed to necessarily becoming after the punter.

606
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Speaker 3: This was at least the interpretation of Maurice Jones drew

607
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: while as we're watching this in the film room, and

608
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Speaker 3: Seiler just thought he could go make a play almost

609
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Speaker 3: when rogue when they were trying to play it safe

610
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Speaker 3: and having left so many of their defender out there,

611
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Speaker 3: and maybe that's why Mike McDaniel got so upset. Let's

612
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: move on and keep going through through this list. So

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Speaker 3: I agree. I think he's kind of a top the list.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know where to go second because I was

615
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: kind of ranking these so this is a no particular order.

616
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Speaker 3: But I do think Kevin Stefanski's situation for Cleveland this

617
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: year is interesting. They have made it sound like shuck

618
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 3: that they're going to have all the patients in the world.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't him who necessarily brought into Shaun Watson. They

620
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: didn't get their high, you know, profile quarterback this year.

621
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Speaker 3: That's great, but I've watched enough you know, NFL seasons

622
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: to know that you can't survive two straight years where

623
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: you don't win, you know, four games, and so to me,

624
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Speaker 3: after winning three games like last year, they have to

625
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 3: have some level of competitiveness this year, and I think

626
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: it's going to be difficult.

627
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Speaker 4: I think that he saves his job over the course

628
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: of the season if they play like they did in

629
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Speaker 4: Week one for the majority of their games. He loses

630
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: his job if they fall apart like they did against

631
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 4: Baltimore in Week two. I think it really is as

632
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: simple as that the fashion in which you lose is

633
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: going to matter significantly. I also think that there are

634
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 4: going to be quarterback changes ahead. You are going to

635
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 4: see Dylan Gabriel at some point. You may see Sir

636
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 4: Door Sanders at some point. There's just no reason, if

637
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: you're not contending for a division title or even a

638
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 4: little bit of a hope of a glimmer of hope

639
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: of the playoffs, that you're going to try out these quarterbacks.

640
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 4: And the weird thing about it was, as they entered

641
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: this season, it almost felt like, if there's one team

642
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 4: that's going to give a coach who's been there a

643
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: long time a longer leash and more runway, it's the

644
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 4: Browns because they understand what he's stacked up against. They

645
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 4: understand that their poor decision with Deshaun Watson has handcuffed

646
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: their ability to bring more talent in. And I think

647
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: that their draft has panned out well so far. And

648
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 4: Kevin Sevansi's one coach the year twice, he's gotten them

649
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 4: to the playoffs twice. This is a level of production

650
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: that the Browns have not seen consistently and a level

651
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: of stability they haven't seen since they came back in

652
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety nine. So all of that's going to give

653
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 4: him a longer runway. But again, it's the fashion in

654
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Speaker 4: which you lose these games, because they're going to lose

655
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Speaker 4: most of their games. They're going to get beat by

656
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Speaker 4: at Green Bay, They're going to get beat by Detroit,

657
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Speaker 4: They're going to get beat by Minnesota. If they're competitive

658
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 4: in any of those games, it quiets a little bit.

659
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Speaker 4: But it's a gauntlet that they're facing, and it's that

660
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Speaker 4: Week seven game against Miami. You could have two coaches

661
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Speaker 4: coaching for their job. I just think that such a

662
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Speaker 4: drastic move is going to take longer in his case

663
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Speaker 4: than it might with a Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hop up with the game.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go see him play the game of the

666
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Speaker 3: one that got away, Carson Wentz and the Vikings versus

667
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Speaker 3: the Browns in London. I mean, your Browns got to

668
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 3: you gotta try to win that game. You gotta win

669
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Speaker 3: some games. I know, like stylish losses are nice, but

670
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Speaker 3: you gotta win some games. And they do not have

671
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Speaker 3: an easy schedule like the Dolphins. Dolphins, on the other hand,

672
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Speaker 3: like this is, they're in a different situation. It's not

673
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Speaker 3: just about style points. They are gonna need to stack six, seven,

674
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Speaker 3: eight wins at the very least. I think to keep

675
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Speaker 3: Mike Dan news job. Brian Callahan's just on my radar

676
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Speaker 3: a little bit. I just think he needs to show

677
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Speaker 3: some progress with his young quarterback cam Ward and his

678
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Speaker 3: offensive line. They said it's going to be a good

679
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Speaker 3: offensive line. If Kim Ward plays well, I think then

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Speaker 3: Callahan's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 4: I think that the two things can be independent of

682
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Speaker 4: each other because it's hard because this is a franchise

683
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Speaker 4: that's undergone a lot of change in recent years. You know,

684
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 4: Ron Carthon getting the boot, Mike Rabel getting the boot,

685
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Speaker 4: Like it's just regime change after regime change, different leadership involved.

686
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Speaker 4: But throughout that whole stretch, they didn't really have the

687
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Speaker 4: what they believed was the answer at quarterback. And now

688
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Speaker 4: they think they do, and I think they do too.

689
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Speaker 4: And I think that they could feel good enough about

690
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Speaker 4: washing their hands of the current regime if it's really

691
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 4: ugly and still be like, hey, we have a quarterback.

692
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Speaker 4: We just need to pair him with the right guy.

693
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Speaker 4: We need to do what the Bears did well, what

694
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Speaker 4: they attempted to do with Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 4: I think this is one of the more likely ones

696
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Speaker 4: based on just the way or again early but I

697
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Speaker 4: just don't expect the Titans to be super competitive this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very early.

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Speaker 3: Brian Dable, I guess I was ranking these would be

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Speaker 3: pretty high. His tenure, I think is going to be

701
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Speaker 3: really dependent on Jackson Dart playing well, playing at all.

702
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Speaker 3: I don't think Russell Wilson's going to have the whole season.

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Speaker 3: I also think though, that Brian Daviles higher of Shane

704
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Speaker 3: Bowen and taking advantage of this defense talent, like the

705
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 3: team could be bad enough and it could be negative

706
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Speaker 3: enough there that even if Jackson Dart looks okay, who

707
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Speaker 3: knows how long he'll be there. And then Dave Canals

708
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Speaker 3: was the other one I would just throw out there

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Speaker 3: based on the history of this Carolina Panthers organization. They

710
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Speaker 3: keep changing gms, they keep changing coaches, and they're off

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Speaker 3: to an ugly start. So I didn't want to go

712
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Speaker 3: too deep on this watch list. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: either one of those stands out to you as more

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Speaker 3: interesting than the other.

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Speaker 1: Between Canalis and Dable.

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Speaker 4: I think that ownership matters a lot in their history,

717
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Speaker 4: and if there's an ownership group that makes a more

718
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 4: rash decision, it's the Carolina Panthers. So I would hate

719
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Speaker 4: to see that because I think Canalis and Bryce Hung

720
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: are better pairing than then the situation that Dable's in

721
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Speaker 4: right now and Dabele could have gotten fired last year.

722
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Speaker 4: But these are two examples where I'm like, let's let

723
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Speaker 4: it play out, Let's see what really happens.

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Speaker 1: Let's play it out. Let it play out.

725
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Speaker 3: But it's just we try to get ahead of things

726
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Speaker 3: here on NFL Daily, and after a couple of weeks

727
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Speaker 3: and certainly this dolphin situation, I just thought it was

728
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Speaker 3: topical before we wrap here. A lot of people asked

729
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Speaker 3: Nick after listening to the preview show, appreciate everyone checking out.

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Speaker 1: Where was our unca the week.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you were on top of that

732
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Speaker 3: new weekly segment, And that was my bad. And I

733
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Speaker 3: do want to belatedly award the Unk of the Week

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Speaker 3: to Tony Jefferson, the safety of the Los Angeles Chargers,

735
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Speaker 3: who made a ridiculous interception. And I didn't even know

736
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Speaker 3: before this segment started. Everyone on the team already calls

737
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Speaker 3: him unk, and so that's his nickname on the team.

738
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Speaker 3: I saw it in social and people are sending it

739
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Speaker 3: to me. I was like, he obviously has to be

740
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Speaker 3: the unc of the week. I thirty six year old

741
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Speaker 3: safety who was in the scouting department for the Baltimore

742
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Speaker 3: Ravens and is out there, you know, making some pretty

743
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: big hits and a nice interception. Congratulations to Tony Jefferson.

744
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: You were destined to be the Uncle of the week

745
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Speaker 3: at some point this year.

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Speaker 4: You didn't fumble this entirely. I believe you talked about

747
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Speaker 4: this on the Sunday Show.

748
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Speaker 3: I did, he did to bring out that he was

749
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Speaker 3: a strong candidate, but yeah, you got to finish it off.

750
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Speaker 1: So I just didn't want to let that go.

751
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Speaker 3: And then just a couple of little news items before

752
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Speaker 3: we say goodbye to the Pick Show, where you know,

753
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Speaker 3: we don't hit the news too much. Rock Purdy believes

754
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 3: it will go up until game time for him to

755
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: possibly play. He was limited in practice. Mac Jones was

756
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 3: very secretive, saying he wasn't sure if he was gonna

757
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: start or not. It almost feels like Kyle Shanahan has

758
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Speaker 3: prepped these guys for exactly what to say, and I

759
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Speaker 3: gotta admit it's working, don't. I don't know who is

760
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Speaker 3: starting at quarterback for the forty nine ers, so I

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Speaker 3: just I just wanted the listeners to know that too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Greg, it's Week three and I'm already tired of

763
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Speaker 4: the way Kyle Shanahan handles injuries. It happened, it happened

764
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Speaker 4: in week one with Christian McCaffrey, it happened last week

765
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Speaker 4: with Brock Purty and with George Kittle, and it's happening

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Speaker 4: with Brock Purty again. Stop playing games with me, Kyle,

767
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Speaker 4: Like I'm just dreading Friday afternoon. Kyle's going to talk

768
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Speaker 4: at about four thirty five pm Eastern, and he's going

769
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Speaker 4: to be just as not the specific about it with

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Speaker 4: his answers as he was this week. He's just let

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Speaker 4: everybody believe that there's still a chance. There's still a chance,

772
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Speaker 4: and we'll have to wait till game time for it

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Speaker 4: to happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kyle Shanahan is about as untruthful I would say

775
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: with the media in terms of injuries, as like he

776
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: goes out of his way, and I respect it in

777
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: some way that he is so dedicated to the craft.

778
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Speaker 1: His dad was exactly like that too, which is just.

779
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 4: They're poker players, thos.

780
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: That they're both like that.

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Speaker 3: Some injury news out of Tampa since we taped our

782
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Speaker 3: preview to Cody Mock, their good guard who's really developed.

783
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Speaker 3: I mean, they're so good at developing these offensive linemen

784
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: out for the season. Surprised because he finished out that

785
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 3: game on Monday night and now he is gone, and

786
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: Luke Getticky is going to be out for multiple weeks.

787
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Speaker 3: He's going to I believe injured reserve with a designation

788
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: to return. So they're going to be without their right tackle.

789
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Speaker 3: We don't know if Tristan Wurf's is going to be back.

790
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: And now losing Cody Mock and uh yeah, that might

791
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 3: that might inspire me back to the Jets on my

792
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: pick show on Friday. I don't know. I mean they're

793
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: a touchdown favorite. Missing three offensive linemen, that's a big

794
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: deal for their season, even if it's not a huge

795
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: deal for this week when they faced the Jets.

796
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 4: It is and they've been absolutely decimated by injuries in

797
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 4: the offensive line. You just ran through all of them.

798
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 4: But if there's one quarterback who's built over come that,

799
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 4: it's Baker Man.

800
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, I'm gonna I'm not going to

801
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: you know, who use a quarterback like that?

802
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: Chuck Cleveland, Browns, Kevin ste.

803
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's rub it in. Why don't you a guy who.

804
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: Can put up a forty burger in the playoffs? You

805
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: know what? I defend their decision to go away from

806
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: Baker where.

807
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 4: He was was never going to work. It was never

808
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 4: going to work with them sometimes.

809
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: Wise, maturity, injuries, and all that had been built up

810
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: with him as a number one quarterback. If you really

811
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Speaker 3: want to criticize a team for letting quarterbacks out of

812
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 3: the building, I mean the Carolina Panthers had darnaldan Baker

813
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: in the building at the exact same time, and no

814
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 3: one really thought that they should keep them. But they

815
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Speaker 3: did not know how to develop either one of them.

816
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: All right, Shookie, that's it for the Shook week. It

817
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: was a big one. You will be back with me

818
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: big time assignments on Sunday, me, you and Patrick Claiband.

819
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 3: But we will be back in the feed. As I

820
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: mentioned on Friday, Cynthia Freeland and I going through.

821
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Speaker 1: All of our picks. We did it. We remembered the

822
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Speaker 1: unk of the week.

823
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Speaker 3: We got a fairly entertaining AFC East game in primetime.

824
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Speaker 3: Hopefully we don't have the Dolphins in primetime too much longer.

825
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Speaker 1: This season. Yes, we will see Friday with the picture