WEBVTT - MLB Insider Ken Rosenthal Talks Braves Trade Deadline Rumors 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:23.880 Welcome one to knowledge of the Hammer Territory Podcast. My 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.360 name is Sean Coleman. Hope, wherever you are and wherever 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.400 you are listening, you are having a great week so far. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.360 And the other wonderful thing about Hammer Territory. We're here 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.279 to make the week even better for you when we can. 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.040 Are not confident we're going to be able to do that. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:41.440 On today's episode, a very special episode here momentarily, we 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:45.960 will hear from MLB insider Ken Rosenthal, who today had 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.720 a very insightful story about the fact that the Tigers 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.559 could finally be open for business for Tarks Google and 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.560 one of the primary players for his services could be 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.560 Stephen the Atlanta Braves. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.400 Yeah, what's up, buddy, So, yeah, we got a special 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.440 show tonight. Obviously, with Ken joining the show, we reached out. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.800 It's obviously trade deadline season. Ken. Obviously, he's on the 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.240 Foul Territory Network quite a bit rights for the Athletic, 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.560 one of the premier insiders in baseball quite honestly, and 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:17.160 so when he said yes, obviously we wanted to get 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:19.839 him on the show as fast as possible and see 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:20.600 what he had to say. 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.280 Absolutely, So more on Tark Schooble, what the Braves could 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.160 potentially do if they were to pivot, and is everything 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.720 aligning in place for Alex and Thopolis to be as 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:34.480 aggressive as possible at this trade deadline without further ado. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:39.160 The great Ken Rosenthal welcome back and with us now 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.560 is mob insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken, It's an honor to 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:44.959 talk with you. Of course, we're here to talk all 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.480 about the Braves, and they certainly have been a topic 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.200 of discussion, and the big topic of discussion around baseball 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.520 is Tark Schooble and Kim want to get right to it. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.240 You talked today about how action's starting to be there 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.800 on the Tark Schooble front, and the Braves could be 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.880 at the forefront of that. What's the latest you can 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:02.000 shared with us on what once was a pipe dream 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.120 but now could be a reality of tart school will 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:05.680 maybe going to the Braves. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.080 Well, the only thing I can really say is that 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.000 if he is made available, which I expect he will be, 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.880 then the Braves are going to be in and they're 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.960 gonna see what the price is and they're gonna check 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.560 and see if this is doable for them. Now, maybe 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.000 a year ago it probably wouldn't have been their system 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.760 wasn't maybe as strong as it is now. And then 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.120 the question becomes, Okay, if the system is strong enough, 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.760 and it seems that it is, would they be willing 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.400 to part with the cream of that system if that's 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.639 what it takes for a rental. And that's something that 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:44.040 Alexanthopolis has not done really much of in Atlanta at all. 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.320 He's been active at the deadline at times, He's been 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.480 really active twenty one right, but he hasn't made this 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.000 kind of move. Hasn't made it since he acquired David 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.560 Price for the Toronto Blue Jays in twenty fifteen, and 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:02.440 that had some similarities. Price was like, Schoogle is now 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.239 a potential difference maker, and for a potential difference maker, 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:07.919 then maybe you go for it. 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.600 So let me ask you this because I saw you 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:13.600 doing your spot earlier and you were talking about the 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.160 Rangers and you were talking about how they don't really 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.880 want to add payroll, and I was curious because so 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:21.960 the Braves have this jerks and profile money that's just 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.160 been sitting there all year. We've talked about it a lot. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.840 There is a pending lockout coming. I do wonder do 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.000 the Braves having this ability to spend money, maybe at 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.040 a level other teams don't, and maybe at a level 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.920 that they haven't had before. Does that give them an 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.960 advantage in a market where there may be a number 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.960 of teams, especially with a lockout pending, who might be 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.360 a little tighter with the purse strings. 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:51.560 It could certainly, and with certain teams the money will 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.400 be a factor. School is going to be over about 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:55.560 nine and a half million at the deadline, didn't you 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.160 guys mention profar money is sitting there, it's waiting to 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.760 be spent. Indeed, the Braves plan to spend it. So 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.760 for a team like Tampa Bay, a team like Milwaukee, 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.119 the money is a problem. Giving up that many prospects 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.480 or that quality of prospect is a problem, and they 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.240 might be disinclined to do it. But at the same time, 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.560 Tampa Bay is in a unique spot, best record in 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.839 the American League. They can maybe do this this year. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.040 They have a good system, but it depends again on 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.920 what the Tigers want, Tampa Bay's willingness to do it. 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:32.440 And then way out yonder you have the Dodgers sitting there. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.799 They're sitting there with one of the game's best farm systems. 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.960 They've got I believe, six outfielders in the top one 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.839 hundred ten outfielders overall. That's MLB dot COM's top hundred, 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.120 So they certainly are equipped to do this. Money is 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.760 no object to them, and I would expect that what 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.719 they're gonna do is wait around and see if someone 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.359 jumps out, and if no one does, they tell the Tigers, hey, guys, 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.159 here we are. And the other thing with the Dodgers 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:03.000 that I can see happen here is them staying involved. 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.919 If they think the Braves or the Phillies or the 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.240 Cubs are going to be involved in the schoobls sweep stakes. 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.440 They love nothing better than to muddy the waters. They've 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.360 done it in the past, and at times, not only 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.040 are they done in the past, they've come away with 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:22.400 the player. So it's a really complicated landscape. I couldn't 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.400 predict what's going to happen. I couldn't even predict necessarily 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.560 what the Tigers are going to do. But what we 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:32.080 reported today is that simply teams are now starting to 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.839 talk to the Tigers and say, guys, we need to 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.919 know a little bit more. Up until now, teams have 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.680 been like, well, Tigers are trying to stay in it. 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.800 We're going to be respectful. I love this respectful. It's 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.640 six days out. Time to start doing business. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.719 Yeah, And of course the Tigers the only allegiances that 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:53.960 they have is to themselves in their future. And you 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:58.559 mentioned it in one of your spots today. There's a bar, right, 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.800 there's a bar that they want to be met. And 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:02.600 as willing as the Braves may be to deal their 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.200 top prospects, there may just be other teams, like the 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.160 Brewers or the Dodgers, who simply have other prospects that 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.600 meet the Tigers once more than the Braves. So what 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.839 if the Braves have to pivot? What if Scooball is 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.960 not the answer for whatever reason, that money is still there, 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.440 there are multiple needs that are still there. Do you 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.520 kind of what direction do you feel would be the 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:25.920 priority for the Braves to pivot it too? Maybe it's 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.000 a controllable starter. Does a more significant hitter come into play? 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.000 What are the alternatives for the Braves if Scooball does 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:33.720 not wind up being a realistic option. 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.520 I'm sure they'd love a controllable starter. All teams would. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.880 Casey Mize would be a possibility because the Tigers conceivably 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.560 could trade him too. He's a potential free agent. We 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.240 come at a much lesser cost like Josh Peterson and 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.440 Sol there and all those guys did at twenty one. 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:54.280 So that's one way. Robbie Ray is out there. Freddy Peralta, 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:55.919 I don't know if the Mets and Braves will do that. 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.840 I don't know if the Braves and want Freddy Paralta. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.080 There are starters to be had. Foster Griffin from the 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.720 Nationals another one. The question is always is going to 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.279 be the competition. It's going to be the price, the 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.040 Braves willingness to stomach what the price might be. And 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.480 as for the other needs, I remember, coming out of 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.200 the break, I reported that the Braves were worried about 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.680 their offense, kind of focused on offense, and since then 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.880 their offense has come around. Right, Raccoon is back, Riley 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.920 looks better, Baldwin, it's Baldwin again. So I don't know 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.640 that that's such a priority right now. Certainly shortstop, yes, 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:36.200 could be. But to me, pitching is the focus and 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.440 it should be the focus. 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.240 Yeah, that's I mean, I think I think everybody in 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:46.040 Braves country and We've been saying this all off season. 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.800 I saw you say it all off season multiple times. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.120 Everybody expected the Braves to get an impact starter, a 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.960 playoff caliber starter, and it just hasn't happened. I do 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:56.920 want to ask you about a specific team and a 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.240 specific name, because I've heard it, and I I'm just 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.120 curious if there's any any heat behind it, you know, 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.640 the Braves. Alex Adopolis has traded for Kevin Gosman in 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.960 the past, Like in twenty eighteen, one of his first 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.720 moves ever was trading for Kevin Gosman. It didn't work out. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.400 They ended up, you know, kind of going their separate ways. 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.360 He then turned into a very good picture. Over like 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.920 the last five or six years. The Blue Jays are 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.680 having a rough year. Do you see any world where 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.800 the blue Jays sell off some pieces and would Gosman 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.680 be a guy that they could potentially pivot to. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.480 I see that world. I definitely see the Blue Jays 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:36.040 potentially selling pieces. What I have a harder time seeing 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:40.319 is the Blue Jays trading with Alex Anthopolis. There are 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:41.440 feelings there. 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:42.400 Let's got that way. 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:46.000 There are emotions there, and Anthopolis, of course would not 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.400 work for Mark Chapyro, who is now the team president. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.720 I would think Toronto would have a hard time dealing 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.080 with Alex now if he makes the best offer for 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.080 Gosman and it's from the best interest of both. I 0:08:58.080 --> 0:08:59.920 don't know why you wouldn't you put all that Pas 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:04.880 stuff aside. It's been ten years now almost, But you 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.440 guys know, sometimes personal feelings do come into play, and 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.280 I could see it in this case more than maybe 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.559 in some others. If like a GM doesn't like another GM. 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:19.520 Granted again, if the deal is something both sides desire 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.080 and is helpful to both sides, sure you get it done. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.520 But that could be a roadblock. 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:26.240 Interesting. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.480 So then, Kim, one last question, and this is in 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.880 general when it comes to Alex and thoughtless. I know 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.400 that you have covered Alex quite a bit. You know, 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.079 in his decade plus of being a GM. You've referenced 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.080 it multiple times. Going after a Taric Scoople type deal 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.120 would be something he's done in the past, but it 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:46.040 was in Toronto versus Atlanta. He's been very, very resistant 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.000 to give away top prospects and deals in Atlanta. But 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.760 this year, as you've also mentioned, with the draft that 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.920 just happened with some emerging prospects. There's more resources now 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.120 on that, in more money on that in the question 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.360 that I have for you, with the needs that are there, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.880 but the act the brains are clear contenders. It just 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.000 seems like everything makes common sense for alex and Thoughtless 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:06.960 to go for it, for him to be more aggressive 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:08.680 and be more at the top of the food chain 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.960 when it comes to his moves at this trade deadline. 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:12.160 Would that be a fair assessment. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.280 I believe that is a fair assessment. Now how Alexander 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.760 THOUGHTFULSS might see it could be completely different. But yes, 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.840 it does line up. The system is in a good place. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.120 They have the profile, money, they have a team that 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:31.079 is potentially capable of winning the World Series. All that said, 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.160 there are other teams involved, other teams that were trying 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:38.240 to get Schooble or whoever else, And that's kind of 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:42.600 how this works, right. So I agree with everything you 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:46.000 just said. I just don't know that it plays out 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.920 exactly as you might be in a visioning. It could, 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.720 and it certainly would make sense if it did. It's 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:56.400 just the deadline, guys. It's so hard to predict anything. 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.320 And I know we all do these lists and we 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:03.120 have these projected trades and all this and then connerly 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.120 early for Curtis meat happens a couple days ago and 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.480 nobody had any clue either one of those guys was 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.959 getting traded. That's the trade deadline. That's what we're dealing with. 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:16.480 Absolutely. Well, his name is Ken Rosenthal. Can I will 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.080 sprgive me I will ask you just one last question. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.839 My guess is from a timeline perspective, we're probably looking 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.960 this weekend for everything to kind of pick up probably 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.480 Saturday and the Sunday and to Monday. It seems like 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.520 it's going to be right at the last minute type 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:28.640 activity deadline. 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:30.360 That would be my expectation. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.439 Yes, well, his name is Ken Rosenthal, a legend in 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.440 the business. Ken, thank you so much for your time. 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.160 It was a pleasure to talk with you. Hope you 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:38.800 have a wonderful day and hope you enjoyed this time 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:39.120 of year. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:43.120 As always, Thanks guys could be with you. Thanks guys. 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.560 Today show is brought to you by Fastenal and their 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.120 Bodyguard line of workplace safety gear. 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Fastenal where industry gets 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:17.319 it done safely. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:23.000 So Stephen Ken had obviously plenty of great insight when 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.640 it came to tart school and the braves, and let's 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:30.199 start there. You know, another notable revelation from this past 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:34.319 weekend heesus cano of the Athletic who covers the braves. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.480 You know Ken Rosenthal so obviously writes Graham will be 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.920 with the Athletic. He discussed the fact that some teams 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.120 had some scouts at room where a lot of the 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:45.599 bravestop prospects are and that included the Detroit Tigers. So evidently, 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.960 and the tide may just be due diligence at this point. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:50.800 But the one thing that I got from Ken from 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:52.839 his story today and with what he just told us 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.400 the idea of Tark schoobl in a Braves uniform make 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.880 a World Series run has gone from a pipe dream 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:01.800 to a potential reality, a really encouraging sign. But the 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:03.680 one thing I will say is is that while we 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.360 did get the insight that the Brads are gonna do 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.199 what they can to make it happen, I don't necessarily 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.360 think that they're gonna go all out because there are 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.520 gonna be other teams involved in this race as well. 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:13.520 Yeah. 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.920 I mean, you heard him just talk about it, that 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.640 everybody is pressing Detroit for an answer. Like he just said, 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.840 you know, teams are trying to be respectful, but like 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:27.559 at a certain point, respect goes out the window. We 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.040 just got to get stuff done. And you know, I 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.200 thought one of the more fascinating bits that's come out 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.360 was when Ken wrote about the Tigers last week, talking 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:40.480 about how, you know, they might want to trade Schooble 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.320 and contend at the same time. You know, losing a 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.400 guy like Schooble for absolutely nothing in free agency is 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.439 a really tough pill to swallow for an organization like Detroit, 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.440 Like they just don't have the resources to be able 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.160 to just let a guy like Schooble walk for nothing 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.800 at the end of the year, and you know, they're 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.280 all so far enough out now where it's tough to 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.160 go all in on this group for them. But I 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.679 could see a world where, like, you know, maybe they 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:13.960 try to trade Schooble, they get a controllable starter who's 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:18.200 close to the majors, somebody like a J. Smithschav for instance, 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:23.560 who has got high upside, who is can help the 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.800 twenty twenty six team. Right, So it's not immediately punting 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.960 twenty twenty six. Obviously AJ Smith Schalver is gonna come 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.920 up tomorrow and pitch for the Braids. We're gonna talk 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.120 about that a little bit later. But like, I could 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.600 see a world where that sort of, you know, that 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.920 sort of trade makes sense, where they're trading Schooble because 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:43.840 he's a he's gonna be a free agent two months. 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.280 They don't want to lose him for nothing. But they're 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.080 also are not ready to punt on twenty twenty six, 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.720 so they try to get some pitching back that's ready 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.720 to contribute at the major league level. Now, obviously it 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:55.640 wouldn't just be a J. Smithschavro, it would be a J. 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.440 Smith schalv plus more. But you know that article by 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.520 Ken saying that might be a direction they want to 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.440 go made me think like the Braves do really have 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.840 a shout, a real shot because they have the money, 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.400 they have the prospects. Not only do they have the prospects, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.600 they have the major league ready pitching prospects that Detroit 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:17.640 specifically has, according to reports, has been targeting to potentially 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:19.720 make a run even after they trade Scoople. So I 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.880 do get the sense that Detroit is going to move him. 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.680 I've kind of landed on that. I do think he's 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.880 going to get traded. The question now, obviously for this 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.000 podcast for our fan base, is can the Braves pull 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.800 it off? And you know, we haven't seen Alex do 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.400 something like this since he's been with the Braves. This 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.720 would be a massive swing at the top, top player 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.040 on the trade market at the deadline, and you know, 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:44.880 you got to get him away from the Dodgers and 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.080 the Brewers and the Phillies and it's not going to 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.520 be easy, but it's pretty fascinating once you settle on 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.840 the fact that it does look like Detroit's going to 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:55.080 trade him. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:57.600 And I think there's two levels of reality here that 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.960 needs to be noted. I do think reality to where 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.560 Alex and Thopless is going to be aggressive. I think 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.840 that he will be willing to trade some of his 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.120 stop prospects to get someone to the level of a 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.560 Tark School. But I also think there's a reality that 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.800 needs to be realized. The Braves aren't going to be 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.440 the best farm system. They're not going to be the 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:18.120 deepest farm system in this pursuit. The Dodgers the Brewers 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.280 can probably put together a better package. The thing is 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.960 will they. I don't think Alex and Topplss is going 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.880 to try to overcome that by offering like Eric Hartman 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.360 takes South the Scene and cam Camminitty on a package 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.480 FORER Tark School. But I also don't think you're going 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.560 to be able to put many more filters on there 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.120 where you're like, oh, well, I'd rather trade JR. Richie 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.480 and a J. Smith Schaffer. It's likely going to cost 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.120 you a J. Smith Schoffer. Garav vidat Friend of the 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.520 Show he mentioned to Scott Coleman on Twitter yesterday he 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.000 felt that the Tigers were scouting Alex Lodiz the shortstop 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.960 prospect for the Braves. It's going to take probably two 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.640 or three top ten starters are top ten prospects, along 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:55.600 with one of the Braves young arms to get this 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.000 deal done. But if you're Alex with the resourcefulness that 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.600 you have, go get it done. Oh way, if it's 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.560 a reality, go get it done to give yourself the 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.840 best chance to win this year because you know that 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.480 you have the resourcefulness to continue to move your prospect, 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.359 to remove your farm system in the right direction while 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.200 also really improving your chances of getting a World Series 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:15.600 this year. 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.679 Yeah, I mean that is going to be ultimately like 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.720 And this is the part that's fascinating, because every single 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.920 team has to decide how much a rental is worth, 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.080 even at the very top of the market rental, how 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.919 much a rental is worth, and every other team is 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.000 going to send what they think a rental is worth, 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.480 and which team is willing to go above that, Like, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:43.800 which team is willing to say, yes, a schoobl on 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:47.080 a two month contract is worth this much, I'm willing 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.199 to go like one step more to make sure I 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:54.120 get the guy I want. And will the Braves do it? 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.359 And that's the part I don't know, And I don't 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.000 know how much the Tigers are going to ask for 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.000 and I don't know how much it's going to take 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.840 to actually win the bidding war, because that's what you 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.120 have to be. You have to be the last team 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:07.919 standing the best offer among probably what's going to be 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.280 you know, probably at least five or six teams that 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:15.360 can realistically take in Schooble's contract and has the prospects 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.159 to get the deal done, you have to have the 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.560 best offer of all of those teams. So it's not 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.680 easy and it's probably not likely. Like even as we 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.640 sit here today, even as I say I do think 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:30.560 Schooble will get traded, I still don't think it's likely 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.359 that he ends up in Atlanta, just because there's just 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.040 too many other teams that also very very much want 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.200 him and obviously believe he would be the difference between 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.159 potentially winning a World Series and not. So that is 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.960 going to be the question is what are teams wanting 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:46.800 to give up? And our teams want to go maybe 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.119 a little bit more to make sure their offer is 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:51.520 the best one on the board. 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:57.760 One other note from Ken Rosenthal's segment with us that 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.840 I certainly open my eyes a little bit, is that, Okay, 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:02.639 say you don't land Tark School. For the reason we 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.440 just mentioned, somebody else just simply offered a better package, 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.960 and the Tigers are only, you know, their only allegiances 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:10.639 to get in the best package for their future. The 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:12.280 Braves may not be able to meet that. So where 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.760 could the Braves potentially pivot? Toronto comes into focus. Toronto 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.320 just had a World series run. Names like Kevin Gosman 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.880 and George Springer were big parts of that World series run. 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.520 They're both rentals, they both could feel needs for the Braves, 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.359 So you would think that would be a natural pivot 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:27.600 partner for the Braves to go and talk to. But 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.240 not so fast, my friend, to quote the legendary League 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:34.320 of course. So Ken Rosenthal had a pretty interesting nugget 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.600 in which, hey, while the relationship between Scott Harris and 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.719 Alex and Thoughtless between the Tigers and the Braves may 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.480 be strong, that may not necessarily be the case everywhere. 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:48.000 Yeah that was so if you obviously you just listened 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:53.760 to Ken talk about how Alex originally came from the 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.439 Blue Jays A long time ago, is about a decade 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.480 ago this two thousand. I think he started there. I 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.480 mean he starts there like twenty years ago, in like 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.119 two thousand and six or two thousand and seven, worked 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.320 his way all the way up to being the GM. 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.000 I think in around twenty eleven or twenty twelve. He 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.639