1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: It's time for the b a q a A b 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: a q a A the b a q A with 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: tiff and a the b a q a A. Hey, Hey, 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: it's me Tiffany and no Mandy unfortunately, but that's okay 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: because I'm in the stew with you. This is Brian Ambishing, 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Question and answer. You have questions, I have some answers. 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Although I am not your attorney, your doctor, your lawyer. Okay, 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: you are going to reach out to the people that 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: you pay for serious advice and you're gonna take what 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: I take what I tell you with the smallest, smallest, 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: smallest of greendom. So thought of salt aka goes to 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: your grandma, not me and Mandy. Okay, Okay. So if 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: you have questions that you'd like answered about career, about business, 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: about money, about child life these days, you can go 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: on over to Branhambishing podcast dot and click contact us, 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: slide into the DMS on Ig Brown and Vision podcast, 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: the BA podcast on Twitter, and Briannivision podcast at gmail 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: dot com. Okay, so let's get to the questions. Well, 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: first question of today comes from Courtney via ig. Courtney says, hello, ladies, 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: I love this podcast. And Tiffany, I've been a part 21 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: of your literature academy for about two years. Yeah, and 22 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: I love it. We love that. It's taught me so much. 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: So I have a question. My now fiance told me 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: that back in twenty twenty he ended up getting a 25 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,919 Speaker 1: personal loan to pay off credit cards, and without reading 26 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: the fine print, found out later that the lender took 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: over his car loan for collateral. So now he's paying 28 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: off his car through them instead of Capital One, and 29 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: it's paying three hundred dollars more on this car month 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: now than before. Damn. He called the lender to see 31 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: if he can get a lower payment since he hasn't 32 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: missed a payment or has been late since he got 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: the loan, but they said he couldn't do that. Of course, 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: not child, They want all that money. So we're wondering 35 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: if you guys have any advice on the best way 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: to handle a personal loan and if possible to refinance 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: a personal loan, If so, is it a good idea 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: to do? So? Okay, thank you. So what I'm getting Courtney, 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: is that fiance wanted to pay a credit card debt, 40 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: which is great. He got a loan to pay it off. Okay, 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: somehow in the fine print the lender said, I'm gonna 42 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: take off over your car loan. That way, if you 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: don't pay me, will take your car and you're gonna 44 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: pay off the car loan and the three hundred dollars 45 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: a month I'm assuming is part fee, part to pay 46 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: down that credit card debt. You didn't say how much 47 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: your credit card debt was, and he's wanted to lower 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: his payment. Okay, so you didn't share what the interest 49 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: rate was. There's a lot missing here, So let's just 50 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna make some generalizations. In general. If you 51 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: are wanting to get out of a specific loan with 52 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: a specific lender because you want better terms, here are 53 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: some of your options. You can do what you said, 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: which is see if you can renegotiate with them in 55 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: the terms. That's one, which they've said no. Two, you 56 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: can try to refinance, you know, with you know that 57 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: lender or a different lender. So that's two. That's certainly 58 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: something that you can do. And then three, you can 59 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: also look for another lender. What I would do is 60 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: I would head down to my local credit union. A 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: sister of mine not she is doing that now. Doing this. Now, 62 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: she's looking to purchase a car, and dealer financing has 63 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: gotten better than it used to. But still, you know, 64 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: you're typically gonna pay you know, a higher interest rate, 65 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: not always because dealer financing is much better these days, 66 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: and some of these big banks don't even do car financing. 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: They make you go through the dealer. But so I 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: told her because a friend of mine is a teacher 69 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: where I live, and there's a credit union that a 70 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: lot of teachers in Newark like to use because they 71 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: have better interest rates. So she went to the credit union. 72 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: They had three stipulations. You had to live in Newark, 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: or work in Newark, or worship in Newark. So she 74 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: was able to prove that she lived in Newark. She 75 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: was able to open up a credit union account that 76 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: day and apply for the loan for the car. So 77 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: right now, I think interest rates if you're borrowing money 78 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: for a car are like in the seven percent range, 79 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: you know, maybe high sixes. They're offering five percent in 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: that range, so not even I think like four percent, 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: four point something, something tremendous. So she is going to 82 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: purchase her car at the dealership, but use the financing 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: at the credit union. So what I would do is 84 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: to tell your fiance to one reach out to credit 85 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: unions in his area and see if you know what, 86 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how much he owes he if he'd 87 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: be able to get potentially get his car loan and 88 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: his credit cards like paid off via the credit union 89 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: and he holds the credit union instead. Now here's the thing, 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: I do not know the terms of this new lender. 91 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: If you're able to pre pay, because some lenders won't 92 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: let you. So you're gonna want to call and say 93 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: or look at the fine print to see can I 94 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: pay this loan off before the period of time. So 95 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: sometimes lenders will be like, okay, you have like five 96 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: six years on this car note, but you can't prepay, 97 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: meaning whether you pay in five years or five months, 98 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: you pay in the full amount either way, you know, 99 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: So you want to make sure that he's able to prepay, 100 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: meaning paid and paying it off before the allotted period 101 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: of time and there's not a penalty to do so. 102 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: And if that so, then I would start. If his 103 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: credit score is right, you know, ideally would be able 104 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: to go to a credit union and see if the 105 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: credit union can assume these two loans or this total loan, 106 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, credit cards mixed with car note, and then 107 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: he can now pay the credit union at a lower 108 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: interust rate and therefore lowering his monthly payment. Okay, so 109 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: those are some of your options. Does that make sense? Courtney? 110 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing. You know that fine print 111 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: be fine printing, and I know sometimes it can feel 112 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: overwhelming when it comes to like borrowing money. So some 113 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: questions just in general, so whether this is Courtney or 114 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: Courtney's fiance saying when you borrow money, questions that you 115 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: always want to ask is like one, you know, like 116 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: how much am I actually borrowing? You know? Two? Obviously, 117 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: who do I owe? Sometimes you're borrowing money, you're like 118 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: so for example, if you're getting credit financing from a 119 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: car dealership, it's like, well, who do I actually who 120 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: am I going to end up owing? Right? So that's two. Three? 121 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: What is my interest rate? And is it fixed or 122 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: is it variable? So that means meaning like, okay, am 123 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: I going to pay five percent for the length of 124 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: the loan or five percent for the first two years 125 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: and then ten percent after that? So what is my 126 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: interest rate? Is it fixed or is it variable? So 127 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: is it the same or does it go up and 128 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: down based upon the market or otherwise? Right? What was that? Four? Right? So? 129 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: Five or four? I don't remember. 130 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: I'm on. 131 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: How long is the term three months, three years, five years? 132 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: Or how long do I have before I pay it back? 133 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: You know? Six? Five? I can't remember what I'm on. 134 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: Is there a prepayment penalty? Yes? Some people. The reason 135 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: why they don't want you to pay off sooner is 136 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: they want they don't want to miss out on the 137 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: interest they're gonna earn on you continuing to pay, you know, 138 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: so like that's a huge one, Like, you know, is 139 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: there a pre payment penalty? So let's just say you're 140 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: gonna buy a car and it's twenty thousand dollars because 141 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: you get a previously owned car, you put down ten 142 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: you have a ten thousand dollars loan, and then you say, 143 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. You hit the you hit 144 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: the numbers for fifty thousand. You're like, let me pay 145 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: off this car a week later. Are you going to 146 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: be punished for that? Are you even allowed to do that? 147 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: You want to make sure you're able to prepay or 148 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: pay off early. And then two, what happens if you're 149 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: in late, like do you lose your five percent interest? 150 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: You want to ask of this like a question seven, 151 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: I guess do you lose your interest rate? Did your 152 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: interest rate go up? 153 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: You know? 154 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: What happens? You know? How quickly do they report you 155 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: to the credit bureaus? So if I'm late, what happens 156 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: you know? And do they have some sort of help 157 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: if you're struggling financially? So those are some of the 158 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: questions that you always want to ask before you borrow 159 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: any money. Yeah, because that five pen free five Britain. 160 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: But you know, if you ask those questions, it doesn't 161 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: mean that you're never going to make your mistakes and mishaps, 162 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: but it will allow you to be a more educated borrower, 163 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: you know. And so to me, my favorite place to 164 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: borrow the credit union. I believe that you should have 165 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: three financial institutions in your life. I believe you should 166 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: have your regular brick and mortar bank. So that's the 167 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: big bank, so that you be seeing on the corners, right, 168 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: those big old you know, the banks we all know 169 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: if I say their name, but they don't pay me, 170 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: so I ain't saying no nets Okay, So that's one 171 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: big bank and the reason Why you have a big 172 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: bank is for convenience. If you are in California, you 173 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: can use that same bank that's on the corner. You 174 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: come to New Jersey, the bank is probably there. You 175 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: go to Alasta, the bank is probably there. So big 176 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: bank for convenience. This is where I like to keep 177 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: my checking right, my everyday money. Second financial institution that 178 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: I like to have is an online only financial institution. 179 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: Why because that's why I like to keep my savings 180 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: because they typically have high yield savings accounts because they 181 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: don't have the same overhead costs as these big banks 182 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: that are on every corner. They're online, and so they 183 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: get to pass on the savings to you in the 184 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: form of paying out higher interest. I'll give you an example. 185 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: Your big bank on the corner. If you put your 186 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: money in savings there, you're probably gonna make point zero 187 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: zero zero zer one percent child by right now at 188 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: a high dealed savings account at an online only bank, 189 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: you're looking at four four and a half percent currently 190 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: as I'm taking this, that's what it's looking like, you know, 191 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: give or take. So you're four times the amount that 192 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: you're going to earn on your money at an online 193 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: only bank. So that's the second type of institution. Third 194 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: type of institution that I like is a credit union. 195 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: This is where I like to borrow from, so brick 196 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: and mortar convenience, checking online only bank savings account for 197 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: high yield savings, and then credit union to borrow from. 198 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: Because credit unions typically many credit unions are nonprofit or 199 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: definitely their community based credit unions, and their role for 200 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: us if they're nonprofit is not to make a profit 201 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: and to offer as many resources and tools financially to 202 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: community as they can so you can get a better 203 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: deal on the money that you're borrowing. Because my sister 204 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: is instead of spending like seven percent or like six 205 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: percent on like you know, on her interest for the 206 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: car loan, she's gonna pay like four percent. That's tremendous 207 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: of how much money she's gonna save. And so I 208 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: like to have those three. And of course, like a 209 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: broker's account is probably the fourth if I'm thinking about 210 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: it like for investing, but we're thinking about day to 211 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: day money, those are the three into so just consider 212 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: that that. Like, I like to have them in place, 213 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: even if I'm not using your credit union right now. 214 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: I like to just be a member of one. The 215 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: good thing about many credit unions is that you could 216 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: join the same day and ask for a loan the 217 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: same day. But ideally, you know, having those three under 218 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: your belt are going to help you navigate. Well, we're 219 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: gonna take it for guy. Hopefully that was helpful. If 220 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: you have questions, like I said, sobbing to the DMS 221 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: on IG Brian Abision podcast, email us at Brianna Vision 222 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: Podcasts at gmail dot com, go to a Brownambition podcast 223 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: dot com and click contact and the BA podcast on Twitter. 224 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: But we'll be back and black and ready to answer 225 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: more questions. Hey, hey, hey, BA fam, here's a Brown 226 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: Ambition throwback. 227 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: Here's my question. What would be the best way to 228 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: tackle debt? If my husband and I have forty thousand 229 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: dollars worth of debt from credit cards, student loans, and 230 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: personal loans? Should we consolidate our debt or try using 231 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: a method like the snowball method for more information. We're 232 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: both students, we have full time jobs and a mortgage, 233 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: but we're struggling to save money while trying to pay 234 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 2: off debt. Interesting questions. So just to recap forty dollars 235 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: in total, that consists of credit cards, student loans, and 236 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: personal loans. Interesting miss, and they're wondering how to tackle it. 237 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: And that's collectively, that's collectively together. 238 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: Yep, I'm not gonna lie. That's not that bad. 239 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. 240 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: We could say that, like what I was thinking, like, 241 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: y'all can do this. You got this, Yes, you got this. 242 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: Wet's take each of those three types. We don't know 243 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: how much is credit cards, how much is student loans, 244 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 2: or we don't know what the interest rates are, so 245 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: it's a little bit difficult to give specific advice. But 246 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: where where would you say start. 247 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: To Well, I would I personally like the snowball methods. 248 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 3: I'm a little biased. And the snowball method is just 249 00:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: kind of when you line up your debt from low 250 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 3: with highest as far as balances are concerned, and then 251 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: you start to tackle the debt with the lowest balance first. 252 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 3: So basically the other two debts get their minimum and 253 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: the debt with the lowest balance gets its minimum plus 254 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: whatever extra money you could pull from your from your budget. 255 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: So you should have a budget and say, hey, budget, 256 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 3: this is how much my life costs. How much is 257 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: left over after I pay my expenses. Oh, there's two 258 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: hundred dollars left over, and then you can might decide 259 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: one hundred dollars is gonna go to saving, because you 260 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: should be saving and paying down debts simultaneously. So maybe 261 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: one hundred dollars goes to savings and another hundred goes 262 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: to my debt paid down plan. So now you have 263 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: your debt paid down plan money. And if you're gonna 264 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 3: do the snowball method, it would look like this, Hey, 265 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: lowest balance debt, You're gonna get your minimum plus this 266 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 3: one hundred dollars, and now I'm gonna pay it, pay pay, pay, 267 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: pay and pay pay it. And then when that's paid off, 268 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 3: I'm gonna roll over the lowest debt's minimum plus that 269 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 3: one hundred dollars to the second lowest debt. So the 270 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: second low s det is going to get effectively three 271 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: payments in one. It's minimum the first lowest debts minimum 272 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: plus that hundred dollars, and then you're gonna pay pay 273 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: pay paid off, and then you're gonna roll it off 274 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: to the third lowest debt. And so that's the way 275 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: the snowball method works. Or you can use the avalanche method. 276 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 3: Which is when you pay off the debt with the 277 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: highest interest rate off first. And so the avalance method 278 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: makes the most sense as far as mathematically, because you're 279 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: basically paying off the debt that has that's costing you 280 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: the most amount of money because the interest rate is 281 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: the highest, And the snowball method makes the most sense 282 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: emotionally because if you pay off the debt with the 283 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: lowest balance first, you kind of get a faster return 284 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: emotional return on your investment because it might take you 285 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: ten years to pay off the debt with the highest 286 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: interest rate, and so you might not feel as. 287 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: Good about it. 288 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: So I like the snowball method, although obviously that this 289 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: method is amazing if you can stick with it. So yeah, 290 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 3: I think that I think that that's what I would do. 291 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: I would line it up like that, Honestly, I would. 292 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: Look at the I feel like I have a feeling 293 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: out of all three of those types of debt that 294 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: you have, the credit cards probably have the highest interest rates. 295 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: So I'm a fan, I mean, And that's kind of 296 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: looking at things with the avalanche method in mind versus 297 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: a snowball. But if you wanted a quick you know, 298 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: especially if you're kind of struggling. And let's say he's 299 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: got some credit cards, You've got some credit cards, and 300 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: you want a simple way to just keep track of 301 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: everything in one place. You could look into consolidating those 302 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: credit cards with a personal loan, for example, from a 303 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: credit union, if it means that you could secure a 304 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: lower interest rate than what you're currently paying on those 305 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: credit cards. Because we know how difficult it can be 306 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: to pay down credit card debt when it's got you know, 307 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: what is the average APR in credit cards, and thing 308 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: like seventeen percent that's with like perfect credit today. So yeah, 309 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: I could look at I know this crazy, you could 310 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: look at consolidating those credit cards just so you have 311 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: one fixed monthly payment, which is what you get with 312 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: a personal loan, and then you can both tackle that 313 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: payment together. And of course, when you're applying for a 314 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: personal loan, they're going to take into account how much 315 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: you can afford to pay, so your monthly payment shouldn't 316 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: be more, shouldn't end up being more than what you 317 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: guys can comfortably afford with your student loans. If you're 318 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: both still still in school, then maybe they aren't quite 319 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: due yet, so they're not an immediate concern, but you 320 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: definitely want to. I would focus on getting rid of 321 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: that other types of debt, the credit card, the personal 322 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: loans before you guys graduate, so that when you graduate 323 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: you can just throw everything you got at those student loans. 324 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: If the student loans are an issue, now you know, 325 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: if they're federal, there's things you can do income based 326 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: repayment for bears, deferment while you focus on your higher 327 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: interest debt like credit cards or personal loans to buy 328 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: yourself some time. But eventually you got to tackle them 329 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: right and even if you defer them, interest is going 330 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: to still be accruing. So you want to aggressively as 331 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: fast as you can get rid of the other debt 332 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: and then hop on those student loans. If they're private, 333 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: you can look into well, if you've got them, you know, 334 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: pretty high interest rate in your student loans and you 335 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: think you're interested in looking at refinancing, that's also an option. 336 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: If you guys have strong credit scores. There's lots of 337 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: companies out there that will refinance your student loan debt today, 338 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: which will help you secure a lower interest rate and 339 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: maybe reduce your payments and help you pay it off faster. 340 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: But just keep in mind, if you have federal student 341 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: loans and you're refinancing them, you're essentially turning them into 342 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: a private loan, which means those flexible options I mentioned earlier, 343 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: like income based repayment or forbearance are probably no longer 344 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: available to you. So it has to be worth that 345 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: trade off for you to refinance them and turn them 346 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: into private loans. 347 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and to me, it rarely is worth it, so 348 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: you know. So, I mean there's companies like so Far 349 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: that I that are great companies for refinancing for private loans, 350 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: but I always tell people, if you can keep them federal, 351 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: it typically is worth it, just because if you ever 352 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: fall on hard times, private loans don't care, but loans, 353 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: but federal loans, there are things in place that you 354 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: know that you can use to protect yourself if you 355 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: fall on hard times, And it's much easier to the 356 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: fall on a private loan, like a veteran alone is 357 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 3: harder to default. 358 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: And so yeah, So I mean, except for like maybe 359 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: rare instances,