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Speaker 1: I've never actually had a jelly roll. It's one more thing?

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Speaker 2: Or have I you've never had a jelly roll?

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Speaker 1: Is that that it's like cake that's in a spiral around?

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Speaker 3: Much jelly like substance in it. Yeah yeah, probably not

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Speaker 1: Oh lord, No, No, just pure sugar boy and I

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been disciplined this year, really really really good

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Speaker 2: Yes, Katie, Oh no, I was looking at you like,

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Speaker 3: Beating like a pregnant person.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, come on me too. But there's the r.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So jelly rolled a musician. I don't know very

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Speaker 3: show friend of ours that had him on many, many

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Speaker 3: times and say his story is just amazing role as

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Speaker 3: lots of face tats. Found God, lost weight.

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Speaker 2: Became third of the size he used to be right now.

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Speaker 3: Found God and lost weight related, I think Found God

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's it, I don't know, or.

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Speaker 3: Just coincidentally these drugs came along at the same time

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, it's just reading about the g LP ones.

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Speaker 1: You got a year and you will gain it all.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry obviously, yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you get off of them.

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Speaker 2: See, I just assumed you had to stay on them.

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Speaker 3: The way weight loss works, there's never gonna be a thing.

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Speaker 3: There's never gonna be a thing unless it, like you know,

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Speaker 3: as crisper technology, redoes your your genes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, anyway, where were we? I s Jelly role.

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Speaker 1: So we talked to some about the Grammy Show during

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Speaker 2: First, no one is illegal on stolen land.

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Speaker 1: And rapturous applause to that communist style, maoist style slogan.

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Speaker 1: Oh you cut off the end.

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Speaker 2: Good for you. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know you wanted a whole thing. Well, I

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Speaker 1: do not accept your apology. Let's hear Kailani, whoever that is.

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Speaker 4: Everybody is so powerful in this room and in this

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Speaker 4: room later and together we're stronger in numbers to speak

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Speaker 4: So instead of letting it be just a couple of

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Speaker 4: against what's going on. And I'm gonna leave this and say, ice, God,

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Speaker 2: All this you are they all fifteen years old? Art

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Speaker 3: Like art, I like literature, I like music, I like painting,

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Speaker 3: And the impact you're having on society, you're just not.

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Speaker 3: I suppose it makes it easier to, you know, do

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Speaker 1: I wonder if this is the sort of thing that's well,

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Speaker 2: That might be why Bob Dylan is the way he is.

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Speaker 3: Oh so the Billie Eilish thing that got the most

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you say it at a music show,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't embarrass yourself. I'm embarrassed for you. Yeah, it's childlike.

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Speaker 3: And like I, like I have said several times, I

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Speaker 1: In a little bit, for instance, this issue. You've heard

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Speaker 3: So I was just thinking, just appeal to their greed.

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Speaker 1: Ah. So which brings us to Jelly Roll, who was

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Speaker 3: to say this, because it's ridiculous to take it completely seriously.

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Speaker 1: I blame the Internet.

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Speaker 2: How did that happen?

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Speaker 1: The Internet?

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Speaker 2: Billy I was going with some sort of sexy pilgrim thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what is that? Oh, try that.

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Speaker 1: I want you to put on these buckled shoes.

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Speaker 2: What I'm close. Say something about Thanksgiving, Call me thou

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Speaker 2: or refer to me as thou.

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Speaker 1: Would you, Why just just do it, just go with it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess that's it, thankfully,