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Speaker 1: Sunday night. But then also you know, watching film and

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Speaker 1: doing some of their lookbacks this week on that game,

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Speaker 1: you can just tell from talking to some of the

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Speaker 1: players in locker room dan Quinn, they're not happy with

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Speaker 1: that aspect of the game where they've been pretty good.

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Speaker 1: So I don't anticipate them having two bad games in

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Speaker 1: that area. Yeah, it's definitely gonna be a motivated bunch

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Speaker 1: here in Detroit coming off of by Obviously we're beat

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Speaker 1: twenty nine nothing in New engl And so they had

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Speaker 1: that bad taste going into the bye and so look

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Speaker 1: during the bye you kind of do that self evaluation.

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Speaker 1: You look at yourself right, and you change some things.

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Speaker 1: So Dallas can probably expect some things they haven't seen

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Speaker 1: on film from Detroit. Detroit needs to win at one

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Speaker 1: and four, you know, to keep this thing alive and

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Speaker 1: be relevant in November and December. So it should be

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Speaker 1: a good matchup, two motivated teams. Obviously NFC matchup. Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell gets to go back to Texas. I know he's

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that. John, thanks so much for joining me.

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Speaker 1: Great insight there, and we'll see on Sunday. I'll make

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Speaker 1: sure to stop by and say hello. Yeah, absolutely do

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Speaker 1: that and thanks for having me on man, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Twentyman in the Huddle podcast presented

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Speaker 1: by Microsoft, and I am with Pro Bowl Center Frank

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Speaker 1: rag Now for joining me this week. Obviously a huge

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Speaker 1: test with Dallas and you look at them and that

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Speaker 1: defensive front and just what jumps out about them when

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Speaker 1: you watch them on film. Well, first eleven Michael Parsons,

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Speaker 1: he is a very dynamic player that kind of can

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Speaker 1: play all over that front seven. They'll put him over

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Speaker 1: the center of the guard, the tackle, they'll put him

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Speaker 1: off the ball linebacker. And then secondly, they've got Dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn's defense, which is just kind of like old Seattle

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Speaker 1: old when he was at Atlanta, aggressive, a lot of movement,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff being thrown at yea. So it's

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Speaker 1: definitely gonna be a great test for us for sure.

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Speaker 1: But you guys gotta like the matchup, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys have been playing well all year long. I

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Speaker 1: mean seven sex allowed, that's tops in the NFL. You're

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Speaker 1: facing a team in Dallas. They've got twenty four that leadsample.

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Speaker 1: So it's really strength on strength. But you guys have

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Speaker 1: to go into this one and feel pretty good about

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Speaker 1: about this matchup, just with how well you guys have

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Speaker 1: played the first five weeks of the season. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're always confident and it'll be awesome because it's it's good,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, it's good on good, and it's you

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Speaker 1: want to play the best and you want to be

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Speaker 1: the best. So it's it would be cool to compete

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Speaker 1: against these guys and prove it that we can keep

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Speaker 1: going no matter who we're going against. For sure, I

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Speaker 1: know you've been dealing with a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: foot in that buy a week coming a good time

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Speaker 1: for you to get that week off and kind of

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Speaker 1: rest that. I know you didn't do much on the video.

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Speaker 1: I just hung out. Uh. Yeah, it was a huge

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Speaker 1: Like usually as a player, I'm thinking I'd like to

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Speaker 1: buy a leak a little bit later in the season

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Speaker 1: ten like mid season breaking half. But the timing of

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Speaker 1: that was huge for me. I'm very, very grateful for it.

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Speaker 1: If you feel a bit, yeah, feeling a lot better.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about another guy to Penney in

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Speaker 1: a second season. Obviously, Deck's been doing it at a

489
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Speaker 1: high level for a long time. You've been to a

490
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, You've been doing it, you know Jackson at

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl. But Penny is that guy to me

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Speaker 1: that that's really come on in his second year. What

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Speaker 1: is it about Penny that's made him so good in

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Speaker 1: a second season. He's a freak show. But there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of freak shows in this league, right He's a

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Speaker 1: freak show. With instincts like football instincts, and he's a

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Speaker 1: freak show with that work ethic, and you combine all

498
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Speaker 1: three of those and that's what you guys are seeing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he does everything the right way. He takes

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Speaker 1: a lot of pride and how he does how he

501
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Speaker 1: works his craft and how he does everything, and you

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Speaker 1: combine all that and it's pretty special. And that's what

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Speaker 1: I mean. He's going to be a special football player

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Speaker 1: for a long long time. And people talk about his athleticism.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean when you're talking about an athlete

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Speaker 1: along the offensive line and especially at tackle, Like when

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Speaker 1: they say he's one of the most athletic tackles in football?

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Speaker 1: Like how does that man inispest itself in the game

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Speaker 1: on film? Like how do you how do you notice that?

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Speaker 1: How do you see that? Yeah? For sure, I mean

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Speaker 1: the way he can run for being whatever he weighs,

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Speaker 1: he's a big, big man, right and then but also

513
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Speaker 1: like the way dudes bend. I think that's one thing

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Speaker 1: that like you can see where there's some freak shows,

515
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Speaker 1: like the way you can bend and get low and

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Speaker 1: move guys, and his feet are just it's hard to describe.

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Speaker 1: We always talk about that with defensive ends, right, like

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Speaker 1: how guys can bend the Miles, Garretts, the Bosses, all

519
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Speaker 1: those guys, how they can bend and get low and

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Speaker 1: use leverage. Right, to have an offensive tackle that can

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Speaker 1: do that and counteract that is that kind of what

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Speaker 1: wouldn't mean by that? Yeah, to be able to block

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Speaker 1: those dudes on the edge, Like you said, they're able

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Speaker 1: to bet and stuff like that, Him and him and Taylor,

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Speaker 1: their their feet and the way they can move, and

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Speaker 1: then it's special. It's really nice to have kind of

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Speaker 1: bookend tackles, no doubt. I mean, what does that do

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Speaker 1: for you guys? Offensively? I don't need the run game

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Speaker 1: in protection, but just the entirety of the offense, just

530
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Speaker 1: to have two guys that you can count on on

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Speaker 1: the end. Just what does that mean for an offense?

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Speaker 1: I think it's huge. I think it's huge, especially for

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Like for Jared, Like, I'm sure he's

534
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Speaker 1: got to feel pretty confident knowing he's got those two guys.

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Speaker 1: He's that you got two book ends where you're like, hey,

536
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Speaker 1: we don't need to adjust game plans for him because

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Speaker 1: they're really those kind of guys it's a it can

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Speaker 1: change your offense. New England was an anomaly for you guys.

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Speaker 1: We're hoping, yeah, I mean offensively, what was we're on

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Speaker 1: and the next it was it was just we just

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Speaker 1: could we just did we move the ball like we

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Speaker 1: move the ball up and fe up the field, but

543
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Speaker 1: we didn't convert on third and fourth down, and then

544
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Speaker 1: when we got in the red zone we stalled out.

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Speaker 1: And that's it's an Anonymaly, Okay, that's good to hear. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you guys, I know they want to hear that, no doubt. Um,

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Speaker 1: Hank Freely, just how great of a calming effect does

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Speaker 1: he have in that room? It seems like he's a

549
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: great teacher because it doesn't matter who you guys plug in.

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Speaker 1: You guys have dealt with some injuries, right with Jonah

551
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Speaker 1: and some of those guys. But but a guy like

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Speaker 1: Evan comes in and and and it's just fine. You know,

553
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Speaker 1: Skip comes in and plays well. It just seems like

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Speaker 1: whatever you guys kind of do up there, it seems

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Speaker 1: to work. How much is that Hank kind of glue

556
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Speaker 1: in it all together? It's a lot, Hank. Um, he's

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Speaker 1: a great Like you said, he's a great teacher man,

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Speaker 1: and uh it helps that he played the game, um

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Speaker 1: because he really relates that to how we see it,

560
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Speaker 1: and he's, uh, it's a two way communication, if that

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Speaker 1: makes sense. Like it's not just him telling us, it's

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Speaker 1: an open dialogue and we're able to work through a

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Speaker 1: lot of things and get to the where we're all

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Speaker 1: comfortable with it. And then the way he prepares guys,

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Speaker 1: like he doesn't just prepare the first five, he's preparing

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Speaker 1: everybody like they could pretend actually be the starter. And uh,

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Speaker 1: I think also you have to give all hats off

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Speaker 1: to the whole room because guys have took an onust

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Speaker 1: on that and they believe that, like they believe that

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Speaker 1: any day they can be out there. And we've we've

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Speaker 1: had guys like Skip, like Evan that have been preparing

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Speaker 1: to be the starter, and then when they step in,

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Speaker 1: it's not you're not noticing a big letdown. You know,

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Speaker 1: it seems like you guys are pretty friendly too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is that is that a pretty close group? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you saw some of it our fire Knox. How you

577
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: guys are just kind of sitting around in chat, but

578
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: we see you guys in the locker room and you're

579
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: messing with each other and you guys do dinners and

580
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Man, is it a pretty close nigger? Yeah,

581
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: we got we got a good crew, man. I mean

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Speaker 1: me and deck A been together for now five years

583
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Speaker 1: with Hank, which is which is huge, right, right, and

584
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: then Jonah has been here three and then Piney. It's

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Speaker 1: just it's been good, man, it's been good the bye week.

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Speaker 1: What was the big focus for you guys coming out

587
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: of the bye? We mentioned obviously healthwise, getting getting you

588
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: guys right, getting getting the foot good, but just from

589
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Speaker 1: an offensive perspective, maybe a bigger picture, what was the

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Speaker 1: big message, you know coming back out of the bye

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Speaker 1: what you guys need to do to you know, be

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Speaker 1: a little bit better on third down, you know some

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00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: of the short areous stuff, red zone. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: was the what was the big talking points? I guess yeah,

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00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: you nailed it there. I think third down and then

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Speaker 1: especially up front the short yardage, right, Like, we've got

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00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: a group that we should be expected to be able

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Speaker 1: converted on short yardage, and it's been a lot of

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00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: it's just been guys, all of us really have been

600
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: trying to do too much, right. We just got to

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00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: be ourselves and everything will take care of itself. And

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Speaker 1: I thought, but really those two have been the main focus.

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00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: Is that tough sometimes though, when you're losing, you know

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00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: that you maybe try to put to what you maybe

605
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: try to go outside yourself a little bit, trying to

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00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 1: make that extra play, and coaches talk about it all

607
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: the time. Well, sometimes that's that's the worst thing you

608
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: can do is just be yourself, just do your job

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00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: and count on the next on the guy and actually

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Speaker 1: to do his. Yeah, you can't be pressing. Can't be

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00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: pressing like that. We don't need heroes. We just need

612
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: everybody to do their job and then it'll all work out,

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00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: all right. I had Taylor Decker on the podcast. Uh

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of weeks ago, we were talking

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Speaker 1: about the Grizzly Man the gear. I think he was

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00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: wearing one of the one of your hats. He threw

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00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: it out there that you made the offensive lineman pay

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00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: for the grizzly Man gear that I've just had that

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Speaker 1: Actually that isn't true. The original ones, right, So I

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00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: originally made like ten hats and they offered to pay

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Speaker 1: for it. Okay, right see, so yeah, I know that's

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00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: what Taylor does. And then so then the couple guys

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00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: after pay for I'm like, oh, okay, thank you for

624
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: supporting it, ask me and my brother, and then you know,

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00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: he gives me the crab for it. But then I've

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00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: given him a bunch of free hats. He did say that, yeah,

627
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: this stuff afterward, it has been so obviously the grizzly

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00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: man stuff is taken off. I know me, I like

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Speaker 1: to fish. So me and you will chat every now

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00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: and again. You got a place now on on Lake

631
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Speaker 1: Saint Clair that you can go out kind of any

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00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: time you want. Now, but I want to talk about

633
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: your foundation a little bit too, and just tell the

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Speaker 1: folks you know what the foundation is, why you started it,

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Speaker 1: why it's important to you. Yeah. So it's the Rags

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Speaker 1: Remembered Foundation. It's in honor of my late father. Um.

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Speaker 1: He passed away with the heart attack my junior year

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Speaker 1: of college. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people

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00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: know the story. I'm pretty open about it. But uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm just incredibly grateful for the way I raised I

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Speaker 1: was raised, and I've always wanted to do a foundation

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Speaker 1: to kind of Uh I just feel like it's like twofold, right,

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Speaker 1: like I am just I feel like being raised the

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Speaker 1: way I was raised. Where I was, it was kind

645
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Speaker 1: of like go outside and we'll see you for dinner.

646
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Speaker 1: Right like right, I'm calling you for dinner at five o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Mom's yelling asked to come. Yeah, exactly what. It was

648
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Speaker 1: the same childhood that I had. And I think it's

649
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Speaker 1: good for you, man, so I think. And then on

650
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Speaker 1: flip side, when my dad did pass away, I turned

651
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Speaker 1: to the outdoors to grief, and uh so I thought

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Speaker 1: about this foundation to kind of honor my dad where

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Speaker 1: we could really get grieving families in the outdoors and

654
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Speaker 1: help disadvantage youth or anybody really just gets to the

655
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Speaker 1: outdoors because because I think it can be beneficial just

656
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Speaker 1: in general, but really beneficial to help you grieve. It's

657
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Speaker 1: just another out outlet hopefully. And you had I think

658
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Speaker 1: your first um, your first event was the summer right

659
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Speaker 1: how that it was really good. We raised fifty grand

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Speaker 1: we just start off, which was incredible. It was a

661
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Speaker 1: good turnout. And then we've actually got one coming up here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know when this comes out, but it's coming

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Speaker 1: up on November seventh. Oh yeah, no, this will be out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah before that so that's yeah, it'll be at Ford Field.

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Speaker 1: So what are you guys doing there? It's just a

666
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Speaker 1: it's a red tie event. Yeah, just another yeah yeah,

667
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Speaker 1: not really my scene, but whatever we gotta do to hell. Yeah,

668
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Speaker 1: exactly right. So I know you're an avid fisherman, avid hunter. Um,

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Speaker 1: where's a great place on Lake Saint Clair to catch

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Speaker 1: Smalley's you know it's some good ones. Oh, I'm not

671
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Speaker 1: gonna give you give you any I'll give you spots that.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a spot that every in front of

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Speaker 1: the Old FORDA State Okay that yeah, Like there's a

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Speaker 1: launch right there on Jefferson. It's like nine mile but

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Speaker 1: right in front of the Old FORDA State and the

676
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Speaker 1: Spring that's where there's a lot of structure there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very good. That's awesome. Well, great job with the foundation,

678
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Speaker 1: thank you. That's awesome. I appreciate people realize just how

679
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Speaker 1: much fun it can be to be out, you know, fishing,

680
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: doing all that stuff, if you haven't done it before,

681
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: just how relaxing and it can take your mind for sure,

682
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: going out. I'm sure like you know, a night I

683
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: have to a rough game or whatever. On Tuesday when

684
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Speaker 1: you have a day off just how relaxing is that

685
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Speaker 1: to throw out there on a Tuesday and just go

686
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Speaker 1: fish for a lot, turn everything off and just relax.

687
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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, well you need to turn it up

688
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: Sunday because we need to get we need to get

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Speaker 1: away in that offense needs to get rolling. And you

690
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Speaker 1: guys got to have a tough task obviously, but but

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Speaker 1: you seem pretty confident, bunch that you can turn the

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Speaker 1: thing around. Yeah, confident our guys. All right, well let's

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Speaker 1: do it, Frank Greg Now, thanks for joining me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. It is now time for the

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Speaker 1: key matchups presented by bet MGM, and I have Michael

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Speaker 1: O'Hara with me. Thanks for joining me again, Mike. Pleasures

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Speaker 1: of mind. If I just want to tell you when

698
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Speaker 1: we had you on a couple of weeks ago and

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Speaker 1: the numbers went so through the roof with people wanting

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Speaker 1: Michael Harrett content that I just had to have you

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Speaker 1: right back on it. Did you recognize that I called

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Speaker 1: you a couple hundred times but it was the only

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Speaker 1: thing I was so ready to do. I had five

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Speaker 1: notebooks with me, kind of down to five sheets of paper. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be pretty five really really intuitive sheets of paper.

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Speaker 1: Though this one's upside. Well, let's start with the key matchups,

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Speaker 1: and obviously this is a huge game. Mike Detroit's offensive

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Speaker 1: line verse Dallas's defensive front. I mean they lead to

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Speaker 1: lay the league with twenty four sacks. Detroit is tied

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Speaker 1: for lead with the fewest allowed at seven. And so

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Speaker 1: you know, I look at probably who's been the most

712
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Speaker 1: consistent performer up front for Detroit and who's been the

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Speaker 1: best performer on that defense for Dallas is Penna Sewell

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Speaker 1: verse Michael Parsons. Yeah. I don't know if they'll go

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Speaker 1: head to head or how much they will, but that's

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Speaker 1: something you'd really want to, really want to look at. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about about Penny Swell, Tim and one

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Speaker 1: of the things that kind of striped struck me as

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Speaker 1: there'll be three or four or five games or whatever

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Speaker 1: we're into the season and I won't even remember him.

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Speaker 1: And that's a good thing, right, because you don't even

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Speaker 1: holding fifty eight I think is the one he gets

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Speaker 1: his the false start. Yeah, and usually it's a second

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Speaker 1: or third play of the game. But aside from that,

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Speaker 1: this guy's as as steady as they come. But I

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Speaker 1: don't mean just steadies, powerful, the whole, the entire package. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Kind of interesting that these two guys came out of

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Speaker 1: the same draft and two of the better players in

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Speaker 1: that draft. Yeah, you know, it would be interesting if

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Speaker 1: you went in redraft twenty twenty one. That was where

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence went number one. Obviously there was the run

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Speaker 1: on the quarterbacks, but I think between Trevor Lawrence, Jamar

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Speaker 1: Chase Penny Seul, and Micah Parsons, that's probably your top

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Speaker 1: four picks in a redraft. Well, it wouldn't be anybody

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Speaker 1: after that that I would take ahead of Penny Sewell.

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Speaker 1: When whoever's on the board, then I like Penny Sewell.

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Speaker 1: I liked him then, I like him now. And you

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Speaker 1: look at look at Parsons. I mean he's been so

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Speaker 1: explosive for them, and look, he can play the stack spot,

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Speaker 1: he can play outside linebacker. They'll put him on the

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Speaker 1: defensive line, he can rush from ever. He leads that

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Speaker 1: team with six m six sacks on the year. Uh

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Speaker 1: as a team. I mentioned they got twenty four sacks.

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Speaker 1: They've got four games where they have at least fifteen

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Speaker 1: quarterback pressures and um, you know Parsons got three multi

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Speaker 1: sack games. I mean, he is a wrecker and so

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Speaker 1: I don't know how often we'll see Penny soul in

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Speaker 1: him just because of like you mentioned, they move him

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Speaker 1: around so often. But when that's a matchup, that's gonna

750
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Speaker 1: be a really fun. Yeah. Keep that video out there, folks,

751
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Speaker 1: if you tape the games or were recorded, keep it.

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Speaker 1: It's one to watch Penney sull one half sack allowed

753
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Speaker 1: in five games. He's been really really good. What happened

754
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Speaker 1: to the other half a sack? All right? The guy

755
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Speaker 1: he pointed out on the let's flip flip the other

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Speaker 1: side of it and and go. You know, Detroit's defensive

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Speaker 1: front um against Dak Prescott, who all indications out of

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Speaker 1: Dallas or you know that thumb he returned to practice

759
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: this week. Thumb's getting better. He's probably in line to

760
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: make a start, his first start since week one. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, credit Cooper Cooper Rush for you know, holding

762
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Speaker 1: down the fort. That's a four and two football team

763
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: that's still in it getting their starting quarterback back. But

764
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Speaker 1: to me, that's a that's a big one because this

765
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions defense has to generate more pressure. They just

766
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Speaker 1: have to. I mean, they are last in the league

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Speaker 1: in sacks and they just don't affect the quarterback enough.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if Dak will be a little

769
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Speaker 1: bit rusty. Maybe you know he's a veteran guy, but

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Speaker 1: when you haven't played in over a month, there could

771
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: be some russ there. And so to get after him

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00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: early in that game, to make him uncomfortable early, just

773
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: don't let him settle in. And I think Aidan's just

774
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: got to be a big part of that. You know,

775
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: he was the number two pick for a reason. He

776
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: had one really good half in against Washington, has had

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00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: three sacks, not a lot of production in the other games.

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Speaker 1: I think this is kind of one he's got to.

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00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: You know, he was able to self scout himself, look

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00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: in the mirror during the bye week, probably came up

781
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: with some things, and he's got to be part of

782
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: the solution for this Detroit Lions defense to be better. Well,

783
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: I kind of took it personally when you said veteran

784
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: guys get rushed. I'll fall into both of those categories.

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00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: If I'm Aiden Hutchinson. I guess this is kind of

786
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: funny though, but I'd sort of use a little bit

787
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Speaker 1: of psychology, and I go up to Dak Prescott before

788
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: the game and I'd say, look, treat this like at

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00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: your first game of the season, because the first game

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00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: of the season he went fourteen for twenty and no touchdowns,

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00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: one interception and a passer riding a forty something. So

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00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: just pretend it's the opening day, Opening day. That's the

793
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: way to work on him. But really his own game. Look,

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00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: he's played five games and he had a chance, like

795
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Speaker 1: you said, to reflect on what he what he did,

796
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: just with no pressure on him though, not printing nothing.

797
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: Just look at his game. And I think he's from

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00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: all accounts, a pretty smart young man. And you know,

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00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: he's had a great college career. He's played a lot

800
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: of ball, but it just hasn't quite fired for him

801
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: yet except for that one half in the second game

802
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: of the season. But come up with something, you know, whatever,

803
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: it is, something that they haven't seen within the framework

804
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: of your defensive structure, and make them think the rest

805
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: of the game that hey, he's coming and finish, finish.

806
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: I think he's been in positions to make some plays.

807
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: You look at even you know in New England again

808
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: spaces right there had Jalen Hurts Week one, A couple

809
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: of times got his hand out, wasn't able to finish.

810
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: Dad can move around a little bit, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I think he moves to throw. I don't think he's

812
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: a traditional runner like a Jamie Hurts, but if you've

813
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: got that opportunity, he's elusive enough to make you miss.

814
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: I think that's probably the big word for for hutch Over.

815
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: The bye was finished. Yeah, and one of the one

816
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: of the defensive linemen I was went on their website

817
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: to listen to their quotes after the game Sunday night,

818
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: and he said, we've got four backs. So that's how

819
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Speaker 1: much they believe in him in Dallas, and they should. Yeah,

820
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what they were twelve and four last

821
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: year and you know, really going good. Probably should have

822
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: won a playoff game, kind of diddled it away, but

823
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's that's that's their guy. That's that's the

824
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: that's their quarterback, the quarterback. All right, we've looked at

825
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: the at the trenches. Now to start, let's go outside

826
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: a little bit and a key one. Another key one

827
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Speaker 1: for me is Josh Reynolds. Now we'll see if if

828
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Speaker 1: Josh plays. I know he's been banged up a little bit,

829
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: missing practice this week. Um, but it'll be Josh or

830
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: whoever that deep threat is for Detroit because going against Treyvon,

831
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: Digs are really talented corner. He's going to be the

832
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: guy on the outside that that's trying to shut down whoever.

833
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: Dallas perceives as Detroit's biggest threat on the outside, their

834
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: deep threat, and when you look at this matchup, Dallas

835
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: has played pretty good all year long. Eight touchdowns allowed

836
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: by the Cowboys, that second fewest in the NFL and

837
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: their fourth against the pass. They're only allowing one hundred

838
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: and eighty three point five yards per game. So look,

839
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: Treyvon obviously had the huge season last year, isn't having,

840
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, the greatest that much impact early this season.

841
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: But he's their guy, and Detroit's got to find a

842
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: counter or whether that's Josh Reynolds, whether that's DJ Chark,

843
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be back this week,

844
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: whoever it is. Look, Josh has led them in receiving

845
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: all year. He's been a really reliable weapon. I think

846
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: he's got to be for them this week as well. Well. Yeah,

847
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: and I think I've looked up he's had in the

848
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: last three games. He said nineteen catches, two hundred and

849
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: sixty nine yards something like that. So one thing about

850
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: about digs, Look, he can you know, he had the

851
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: eleven interceptions last year and he's got two so far,

852
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: so he's really on course to have you know, six interceptions,

853
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: but they're probably not thrown to at him as much.

854
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean, look, why would you keep throwing it to

855
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: it when when the cornerback has what good a chance

856
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: of coming down with it as your intended receivers. So

857
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: that's probably a function of just being good and not

858
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: that he's got to drop off in performance just in

859
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: the numbers themselves may not add up the same way,

860
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: but these are really really good ball player. He's tied

861
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: for the NFL lead with nine pass breakups as well,

862
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: So look, he gets his hands on sure, but he

863
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: takes some chances too. Among those eleven interceptions last year,

864
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: four touchdowns allowed through six games, he's allowed to so look,

865
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: they're going to target him a little bit, you know,

866
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: obviously down the field, but he can give up some

867
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: place too because he's always trying to make that big play.

868
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: Go for that past defense, go for that interception. Sometimes

869
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: you can you know, sneak a ball by him. Because

870
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: he's a little bit aggressive, you can double move him

871
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: while he tries, you know, to to get those picks

872
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: in big plays. So maybe an opportunity there through film

873
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: study that you know, they can maybe set him up

874
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: and try to do something. Deal and Josh Reynolds, you know,

875
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: he's a pretty pretty six three to six four something

876
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: like that, good range, you know, good hands and long

877
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: arms and all that, and he's really shown an ability

878
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: to get downfield and come down with the ball. So

879
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: you talk about a guy who the Lions just sort

880
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: of just picked him up last year and he had

881
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: a connection with the Jared Goff and with the Los

882
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. They carried that forward and he's really been

883
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: an important player for the Detroit Lions. Who has also

884
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: been an important player on a defense that obviously looks

885
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: to turn things around is jeffel couta Lions quarterback, and

886
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna have he's gonna have his hands full with

887
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: CD lam this week. I think that's a really intriguing matchup.

888
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: You know, Dak likes to go down the field and

889
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: when he does, it's usually you know, CD that's their

890
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: big play guy. Um, jeffel coutera no touchdowns allowed, but

891
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: the penalties are creeping up a little bit. Obviously had

892
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: two big ones in New England and I think he

893
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: had one the week before that was a pretty critical

894
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: play too. I think we joked, you know, coming in that, well,

895
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: you know you got to be there to cover a

896
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: guy to get a penalty, right, right, you got to

897
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: be running right with him. You've got to you know,

898
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: be in that position. Um. So that's a good thing

899
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: that you know, you're not trailing a guy. He can't

900
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: get a pass interference five years behind a guy, so

901
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: he's right there. Just probably some technique stuff he needs

902
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: to work on, but the no touchdowns allowed, he's probably

903
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: been one of their better players on defense. I would

904
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: agree with that too and say the same thing about him.

905
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: And we said about Penny Seul about redrafting and all

906
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: that he was. You know, he was taking third overall

907
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: in the draft out of out of Ohio state. We're talking.

908
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: We're talking about Alkuda and you go back and look

909
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: at like the last fifteen or eighteen picks and there's

910
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: nobody that you would go, Okay, I'd rather have him

911
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: than than than Jeff than Jeff Okuda. So I think

912
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: the injuries are what held him back for two years.

913
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: But now I think we're starting to see why they

914
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: took him where they took him, and I think he's

915
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: validating that pick. Ceedee Lamb thirty three, catches, four hundred

916
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: nine yards, a couple of touchdowns. He's their big play guy.

917
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: He's fourteen passes of fifteen plus yards on the year.

918
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: That's tied for the fifth most of the least so

919
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: when they go downfield, it's usually seating. He's also their

920
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: big drop guy too. Now you can't count on a

921
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: guy dropping the ball when he's wide open, but he

922
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: does do that. Other ones. You please drop another one,

923
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: you know. All right, my final matchup we talked about Aiden.

924
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: Let's let's go on the other side and we'll see

925
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: if that's Charles Harris. I know he missed some practice

926
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: time this week. John Kaminski returned to practice, so you

927
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be a combination of either those two

928
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: or some of the other guys they have against Tyler Smith.

929
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: They're rookie from Tulsa. Uh. You know, guy was pressed

930
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: into action because of an injury ahead of them, and

931
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: look he hasn't been too bad for a rookie starting

932
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: at left tackle in that division, particularly, I'm with some

933
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: of the defensive lines in the East. I mean three

934
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: sacks and six games. I mean, if you're gonna tell

935
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: me behind of the season, I'm starting a rookie left

936
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: tackle through six games, I probably take three sacks. He

937
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: hasn't been bad, but there's gonna be some opportunities to

938
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: two needs there because he is a rookie. Right well,

939
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: you would think so, Look, he's replacing Tyron Smith, twelve

940
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: year player probably I mean, at least at the very

941
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 1: least a borderline Hall of Fame. Yeah, defensive lineman. Maybe

942
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: not quite there. You know, he's probably had a career

943
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: similar to here in Detroit, like Lomas Brown, just a

944
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: really good, you know, perennial All Pro or I'm sorry,

945
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: perennial Pro Bowl player, and we'll see. I would think

946
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: that if it's if it's Hutchinson line's upboard, and then

947
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: it's rookie versus rookie, and so I don't know if

948
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: this really is an advantage there. So this would be

949
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: to me, a guy like Charles Harris, if he can

950
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: play with a quickness, he has the speed around the corner.

951
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: I think this would be a good set up for him.

952
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: Now you've got to do it. It's easy for me

953
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: to sit here and talk about it and say, hey,

954
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: if you do this, that and the other thing, you'll

955
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: get the quarterback. But you've got to do it. And

956
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: that's been one of the issues with the Detroit line.

957
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: It's probably one of the biggest issues so far in

958
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: the first five games, is not getting to the quarterback.

959
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: Seven seven, three and one half three of them and

960
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: one half seven sacks last in the NFL. So you know,

961
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: you just look at the Dallas and how productive they've

962
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: been at twenty four, Detroit at the bottom un list

963
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: with seven. I mean, what a big difference. It just

964
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: goes to show. And you look at the defensive statistics

965
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: that support each of those teams too, and you can

966
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,919
Speaker 1: see why Dallas is among one of the best defenses league.

967
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: Why Detroit isn't pass rush is huge, and you can

968
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: see why a guy like you know, the Diggs got

969
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: eleven interceptions last year because quarterbacks are forced to get

970
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: rid of the ball probably before they want to, before

971
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: they see what they really want to see, and that

972
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: that's part of the game, make the quarterback, make him uncomfortable,

973
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: make up throw the ball when he doesn't want to

974
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: throw it. Lons haven't done that enough. But look they've

975
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: had their bye week, they've had their you know, to

976
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: rushed up and all that, and maybe study their own game,

977
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, and develop with themselves what they need to develop.

978
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: And now'll put it on the practice field as we talk,

979
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: and then apply it on Sunday. Play it on Sunday.

980
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: The big game is apply it in a hard way.

981
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: To apply it in a hard way. He is Mike O'Hara.

982
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: Those are the bet MGM key matchups. You know. Obviously

983
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: we're covered a lot of stuff this this week. My

984
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: PJ Clark will will join me Sunday night in Dallas,

985
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: will break down the game too. It's a big one.

986
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: Pjson one who got my sheet on the plane,