WEBVTT - NFL Draft Triple Take (RB), April 3, 2022

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Draft Triple Take, presented by u p MC Mike Pursuit

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<v Speaker 1>of Dale, Lolly and Matt Williamson with you yet again

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<v Speaker 1>to continue going over the NFL Draft position by position.

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<v Speaker 1>We've done that already, so we're going over the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Draft position by position again after further review a double

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<v Speaker 1>take on the Triple Take. Today's installment running backs. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you've been following along at home, you know this

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<v Speaker 1>by now, but in case you're just finding us, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you might want to know that for the second look

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<v Speaker 1>at things positioned by position, we're not giving you our

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<v Speaker 1>top five candidates. We're going riser, faller, and sleeper and

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<v Speaker 1>uh some some interesting stuff at the running back position.

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<v Speaker 1>Is really with all the positions, this to me is

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<v Speaker 1>a fascinating draft. Maybe doesn't have those uh headliners of

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<v Speaker 1>those players a couple three that everybody's over the moon about,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think a lot of talent to be had

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<v Speaker 1>starting at the end of a role. We'll see who

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<v Speaker 1>can get the best fits moving forward. Matt, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>start with you again on running backs. I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was giving you in Dale a lot of guff in

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<v Speaker 1>one of our recent installments because you guys kept picking

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<v Speaker 1>the same guys and yes, slotting them in the same places,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were We had significant agreement in our third

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<v Speaker 1>mock draft, and our rising running back is the same guy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll like this too. I at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>my write up for Damian Peters, my riser out of Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>I gave an honorable mention to Michigan State's Kenneth Walker.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pull back the curtain. I mean everyone I like

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<v Speaker 1>honorable mention, recognition for the best, for the best running

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<v Speaker 1>back in the draft. Well, I mean the exact quote

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<v Speaker 1>was an honorable mention. Here goes to Michigan States Kenneth Walker,

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<v Speaker 1>who looks more and more like a Nick Chubb Javante

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<v Speaker 1>Williams clone. That was much nicer things than I said

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<v Speaker 1>about him the first time around. And I'll pull back

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<v Speaker 1>the curtain. I mean, everyone knows the Steelers took a

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<v Speaker 1>running back in the first round this pass draft, so

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<v Speaker 1>running backs whenever we went through him the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>we're probably my last priority. I was thinking into other

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<v Speaker 1>positions first, and I am more respect now for Walker

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<v Speaker 1>now than then when I did my original top five

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<v Speaker 1>I had Pierced who's my riser as my fifth back

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<v Speaker 1>from what I remember, and I like him even more now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think what he does as a tackle breaker,

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<v Speaker 1>the physicality watching him in protection that plays at the

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<v Speaker 1>next level. He's a real handful. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that Florida was thinking, but he didn't didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>hardly any wear and tear off his body. I think

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<v Speaker 1>his best days are to come. Yeah. Three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>nine carries in four seasons. Yeah, which it was just

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<v Speaker 1>really surprised to me. Maybe they've been at Smith on

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<v Speaker 1>the bench. I don't know, but you know, he had

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen touchdowns on a hundred nineteen touches last season, teen rushing,

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<v Speaker 1>three receiving. He got a penalty for a personal foul.

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<v Speaker 1>He continued to play without a helmet. It was what

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<v Speaker 1>turned what turned out to be a touchdown run against

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<v Speaker 1>Florida State. He got his helmet ripped off on a

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<v Speaker 1>cutback and then he put his shoulder down at the

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<v Speaker 1>goal line without a helmet and went through two defenders.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy is pretty tough. Reportedly he owns three pit bulls.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing that makes him pretty tough. He runs like

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<v Speaker 1>he's pretty upset that he never got the ball enough

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<v Speaker 1>at Florida and he's trying to take it out on somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh, by the way, there's this I found in

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<v Speaker 1>a story. He was asked why he played in Florida's

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<v Speaker 1>bowl game against UCF even though he had already been

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<v Speaker 1>invited to the Senior Bowl. And you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys opted out of the bowl games, not Damian

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<v Speaker 1>Pierce quote because I'm a Gator bro. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a hard time initially when guys started bailing out

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<v Speaker 1>of bowl games. It bothered me a lot. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. It's a business. They gotta do what's

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<v Speaker 1>best for them. But a guy who's you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a Gator bro, I feel that I appreciate that. I

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<v Speaker 1>know where he's coming from on that it's just another

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<v Speaker 1>feather in his cap. So he's my riser, UH and Dale,

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<v Speaker 1>Thankfully you've got somebody else to talk about. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's it's another guy who's very familiar to UH,

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<v Speaker 1>a name to a lot of people. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have him in my top five Initially. I bet he's

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<v Speaker 1>a mere white from Georgia, and um, I I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think he was as fast as he is watching Georgia play,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he just kind of glides a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he went out to the combine and ran

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<v Speaker 1>a four four forty like he's got home run speed.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look at the tape. I went back

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<v Speaker 1>and looked at it again. I'm like, Okay, now I

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<v Speaker 1>I see a little bit more of that. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a captain for Georgia on that team with

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<v Speaker 1>with twenty five other pros. Uh you know he was

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<v Speaker 1>he was a captain. Yeah, you know, he just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he he just if you look at what the Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>backs have done. You mentioned Nick Chubb, There's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of that there. He's got good size at

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<v Speaker 1>six fourteen. I think there's a lot of eat on

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<v Speaker 1>the bone yet for this guy. And I think that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's gonna be somebody that could be a

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<v Speaker 1>nice mid round hit. Speaking of forty times, Dale, you

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<v Speaker 1>and I in agreement on the faller, and that's uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Kiren Williams and Notre Dame one of my favorite guys

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<v Speaker 1>to watch, you know, watching them play the games and

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<v Speaker 1>and and looking at the highlights. But uh, boy, the

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<v Speaker 1>combined was not kind, not at all. Did a little

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<v Speaker 1>better on notre names prota. But uh, he's a sub

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred pound guy, five nine a buck ninety four,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had, at least I had emphasized the first

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<v Speaker 1>time we looked at running backs and it's becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>big back league that you know. The trend is for

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<v Speaker 1>these pounding, bruising guys that can also run. And I just, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're Kyren Williams, you better be super fast. And

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<v Speaker 1>apparently he's not. Yeah, he's not that. Yeah you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the combine. Um, he was initially listed at like one

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<v Speaker 1>nine or something like that. We came into combine a

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<v Speaker 1>pounds and still ran a four six five Like you

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<v Speaker 1>dropped that way on a fast track where everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>is running four four's and he ran at four six five.

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<v Speaker 1>That that did not bode well for him. Uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>should have been under four or five if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to be what you know, he looks like, he looks

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<v Speaker 1>like he plays it under four or five. He does.

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<v Speaker 1>But that hundred nine pounds was troubling for me as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's that's a little light, um even at

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<v Speaker 1>five nine um, you know, so I had him initially

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<v Speaker 1>he is my number four running back. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he goes that high. Yeah, I had him in the

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<v Speaker 1>top five as well, and maybe in another year if

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wasn't running at record speed and over and overlook

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<v Speaker 1>it a little more. But yeah, it's it's a track

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<v Speaker 1>meet now, and uh, he's not keeping up, Matt. Thankfully

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<v Speaker 1>you have somebody different. Yeah, what last note on Williams?

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<v Speaker 1>What they say he is the ultimate leader and tough

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<v Speaker 1>guy and all that stuff, but hey, you're small, right.

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<v Speaker 1>My father was Isaiah Spiller, and uh, Texas A and

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<v Speaker 1>mvs not. It's not The draft process has not gone

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<v Speaker 1>great for the A and M guys the season. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I watched him the first time, I knew he

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<v Speaker 1>was a big name prospect. And he didn't blow my

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<v Speaker 1>doors off in the first viewing. And he's cut a

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<v Speaker 1>little higher than I like, and I don't see real

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic skills. And then he didn't test great and I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of went and watched a little bit more tape

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<v Speaker 1>and thought, yeah, that's just kind of who he is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, he ran behind a really good

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<v Speaker 1>old line two years ago, and I think he's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just not I think his name recognition is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit higher than what he really is. Let's stay

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<v Speaker 1>with you. You can lead us off on the sleeper conversation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think if you go to South Dakota State,

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<v Speaker 1>that counts as a sleeper. Um Pierre strong four three

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<v Speaker 1>seven in the forty and he was over two hundred pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not just a little dude. He is a compact,

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<v Speaker 1>smooth guy, has a lot of upside in the receiving game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna have a roll right away. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's not something you say about South Dakota State dudes

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<v Speaker 1>too often. Dale, Uh, You've got but the form sleeper. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got the Zonovan bam Night. Um at a North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina State five eleven two oh nine ran in the

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<v Speaker 1>mid four fives. Was it was an immediate impact guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of the top running back recruits in

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<v Speaker 1>the country when he came out. He picked NC State

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<v Speaker 1>and he had over seven hundred rushing yards in each

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<v Speaker 1>of his three seasons there. Caught the ball well. He

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<v Speaker 1>in forty eight catches over the last two seasons, and

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<v Speaker 1>Uh also averaged over thirty yards per kick return and

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<v Speaker 1>had three kick returns for touchdowns. The last two seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot there to like for a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's probably gonna be a late round roundsh guy. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>get him in the fifth, sixth, even seventh round that

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<v Speaker 1>he can come in and do a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>things for you. I went with a different guy as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're three for three in terms of identifying different

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of backs out there that and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the guy I really wanted to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>when I was researching the position the first time. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get him anywhere near my top five, but fascinating story.

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<v Speaker 1>Abraham Smith of Baylor. Uh. In case people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who this guy is, He's a guy who in the

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<v Speaker 1>season was playing linebacker for Baylor, and in one season

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<v Speaker 1>he led the Big Twelve in rushing with one thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred one yards. He started out as a running back,

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<v Speaker 1>barely saw the field and got the ball. In two years,

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<v Speaker 1>went to linebacker forty something, tackles in his sack, goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to running back and dominates. I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great story. Six ft two and thir pounds. I've mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>to you guys a couple of times the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>man crush I had on the Baylor program this year

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<v Speaker 1>just watching them play. They play a brand of football

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<v Speaker 1>that agrees with me. I think it's they're becoming pretty

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<v Speaker 1>consistent in terms of what they produced. And here's last,

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<v Speaker 1>but not least, this is maybe the whole reason I

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<v Speaker 1>went here. Subconsciously, think of the advantage if you have

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<v Speaker 1>Abrams Smith as you're running back in case there are

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<v Speaker 1>fumbles or interceptions, he'll be a short tackler on their

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<v Speaker 1>because so you know, we'll prevent those defensive scores, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a bit important. Yeah, you don't have to project him

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<v Speaker 1>as a special teams guy running down and covering kicks,

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of things which you'd like at your backup

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<v Speaker 1>running backs. Yeah, and uh, I think you'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to deliver. That's gonna do it for our second look

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<v Speaker 1>at running backs. I want to remind everybody that you

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<v Speaker 1>can catch these shows on all of the Steelers social

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<v Speaker 1>media platforms. Thanks for finding us for this one, however,

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<v Speaker 1>and wherever you found us, we will be cranking it

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<v Speaker 1>up again sooner rather than later. So until then, for

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Williamson and Dale Lali, I'm Mike Pursuita. You've been

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