1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air now. 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: I literally have never said anything to invoke violence, and 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: I challenge somebody to go and find a clip of 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: a democrat invoking violence. I just don't even know why 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: there aren't uprisings all of the country, and maybe there 7 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: will be. 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: People need to start taking to the streets. This is 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 3: a dictator. 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: You know. 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 4: There needs to be unrest in the streets for as 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 4: long as there's unrest in our lives. 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: Enemies of the state, show me where it says that 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful. 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: Comet is some your tongue. 16 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: I thought he should have punished him in the face 17 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: and said, even if you lost, he insulted you, why 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: sit on the escalator and called Mexican's rapist emmers. He said, well, 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: what do you think I should done? I think you 20 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: should punish him in the face and then gotten out 21 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: of the race. You would have been a hero, I shaid, 22 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: if we were in high school, taking the god the 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: gym and beat the hell out of him, punched some 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: people in the face. 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: When was the last time an actor assassinator the president 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: they're still going to have to go out and put 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: a pull at a dollar. 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: She's dumbed down, he said. 29 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: What just happened? Well, oh that's crazy. Let's turn our 30 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: attention locally for a moment, shall we. Texas DPS trooper 31 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: who died in the crash in Sanjacino County has been 32 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: identified as Jerry adamic I have checked to make sure 33 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: that's his last name, or that's how his last name 34 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: is spelled, and I believe that that is a D 35 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: A M i ck. Jerry Adamick was on his way 36 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: to an emergency call when his patrol car struck a 37 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: tree and caught fire. He was a twenty one year 38 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: veteran of the United States Army and he had graduated 39 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: the DPS Academy just over a year ago. Survived by 40 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 2: his wife and five adult children. Big family story, Khou, 41 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: I'll try that again. The story from k h oh u, 42 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: k h oh you is the number twenty one? Yeah, 43 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: twenty one? Oh here? Oh now, okay. 44 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 4: I think FM nine forty five was blocked off. And 45 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: when we drove by earlier today we could see that 46 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: scorched ground where the trooper lost his life. People we 47 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: spoke to say that area can be dangerous for drivers. 48 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: The damage visible on this DPS trooper vehicle helps tell 49 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: the tragic story. It happened around nine thirty along FM 50 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: nine forty five, about half a mile from FM twenty 51 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: twenty five Hi at least twenty fire k h o 52 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: U eleven learned the trooper was on the way to 53 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: a since the San Jacinto Sheriff's office on a call, 54 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: but he wouldn't make it. In a statement from DPS 55 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: where told the troopers vehicle left the road, hit a 56 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: tree burst into flames. He died at the scene. 57 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: And what went through your mind with this kind of loss. 58 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: It's awful, that's all I know, Just awful. I feel 59 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 2: for the family. 60 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 4: Hours after the crash, the DPS shut down half. 61 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 3: Of the road. 62 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: This video shows the cars lining the street as troopers 63 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: walk along the tree line. Khou eleven spoke to drivers 64 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: in the area who say that stretch of road cuts 65 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 4: through national forest land and is extremely dark. 66 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: Oh, we got wild life fall up and down this road, 67 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: and it does get very dark down there. 68 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: And in that particular area, a curve in the road 69 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: can make travel treacherous at night. 70 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: So you just try to avoid this as much as 71 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: you can. Yeah, I don't go out at night. 72 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: At this point, it's not clear what factored into the crash, 73 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 4: but there's no question right now many are filling the loss. 74 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: The Montgomery, CA Downy Judge shared on social media that 75 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: the trooper leaves behind a wife and children. 76 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: Today, at two pm, Chairman of the Fedge, your own 77 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: Powell is set to speak. It will be a press event. 78 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: He will be speaking directly to the press, and that 79 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: comes at the conclusion of a two day meeting of 80 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: the Central Banks Rate Setting Committee. So that will either 81 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: be an announcement that they are lowering rates or they're not, 82 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: because everyone is expecting a rate cut at this point, 83 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: and if there is a rate cut, the reaction will 84 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: be is it enough. There are a couple of factors 85 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: at play here. The interest rate is how you control 86 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: the amount of money that gets out into circulation. When 87 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: you raise interest rates, you restrict the money supply. When 88 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: you lower interest rates, you push money out into the 89 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: money supply. The more money you put into circulation, the 90 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: greater the likelihood of inflation. If everybody has a dollar 91 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: and and a loaf of bread is two dollars, and 92 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: that's been the price of a loaf of bread for 93 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: a while, but all of a sudden, everybody gets ten dollars. Well, 94 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: it's not going to be as difficult for me to 95 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: buy bread, So I'm going to go buy a bunch 96 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: of bread. Well the other guy says, well, I want 97 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: some of that bread, so he offers more money. Before 98 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: you know what, we drive up the price of bread. So, 99 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: because there has not been significant inflation, and because unemployment 100 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: is creeping up, and I think that is largely because 101 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: you're seeing AI replace people, and AI is now no 102 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: longer replacing simple technologies or phone answers receptionists. We're seeing 103 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: AI now wipe out blocks of positions in certain companies, 104 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: mechanical engineers, architects. We're seeing professional services. We're seeing layoffs 105 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: in professional services at companies that are thriving. You expect 106 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: layoffs when companies are suffering. We're seeing companies that are 107 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: booming that are investing the boom into AI, so they 108 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: don't have employees. You're welcome to hate them for that, 109 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: but it's not going to change it. So we're seeing 110 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: a strange parallel that we've almost never seen before, which 111 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: is companies are more profitable, so the stock prices go 112 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: up while they're laying off employees. Unemployment rising is typically 113 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: a parallel of bad economic times. Business doesn't do well, 114 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: they can't they can't afford the employees, they lay them off, 115 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: and eventually they shut down. We're seeing companies that are 116 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: more profitable than ever, partly because they're laying off employees. 117 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: All of that points to a need to cut the 118 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: interest rate. Email from a listener during the break. I 119 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: think the stock market will surge if interest rates drop. 120 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 2: That's typically what happens because an interest rate drop is 121 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: going to create a short term economic boom. But a 122 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: lot of folks remember, the stock market is really just 123 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: a poll. You know, we take a poll to say 124 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: who do you want to be president? The stock market 125 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: is really just a poll. It's the pulse. 126 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: You buy. 127 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: If you expect an upside, you sell if you expect 128 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: a downside. Now, there are a number of reasons to sell. 129 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: You could sell because you're cashing out to buy a yacht. 130 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: You could sell because you're closing out an account or 131 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: an estate. But by and large, are you going long 132 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: or short? Are you betting on future success? If a 133 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: stock is at thirty bucks a share, and yesterday it 134 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: was at twenty. If you buy at thirty, you're counting 135 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: on it going to forty. If you sell at thirty, 136 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: you're counting on it going back to twenty. I've called 137 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: the stock market for years legalized betting, and I believe 138 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: that's what it is. It's what life insurance is as well. 139 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: By the way a life insurance is. If I take 140 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: out a life insurance policy, I'm betting I'm going to 141 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: die and I'm willing to pay money that if I die, 142 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: you have to pay. My family they're betting. Uh uh, 143 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: you're not going to die. We're going to keep taking 144 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: your money because you're going to live. And that's really 145 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: how that bet works. Insurance is a form of legalized gambling. 146 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: All of these are ways that we assign and reassign 147 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: and trade and bet on risk. We don't know what's 148 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: going to happen. So in answer to the listeners question, 149 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 2: will the stock market surge if rates decrease, Well, if 150 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: the question is because you're intending to go buy some 151 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: sort of fund because you don't know which stocks are 152 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 2: going to increase in value, or maybe you're going to 153 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: go find a bundle of mortgage funds or home builders, 154 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: or furniture companies or car dealerships, because you expect those 155 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: are the companies most tied to interest rates, which is true, 156 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: by the way, but there's capital acquisitions. There are makers 157 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: of CNC machines that are going to sell more because 158 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: companies can now borrow at better rates and afford them. 159 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: You know, if there's a piece of equipment you need 160 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: in order to increase production, but that piece of equipment 161 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: costs three million dollars not hard to do, and say 162 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: manufacturing and it would cost you twenty five thousand dollars 163 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: a month at current interest rates, or seventeen thousand dollars 164 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: a month. If interest rates drop to a particular number, 165 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: that starts to make that deal make more sense. So 166 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: you go buy that CNC machine. Well, ay, that's going 167 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: to affect your business as a manufacturer. But if I'm 168 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 2: the CNC maker manufacturer I make the machine itself that 169 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: you use to make stuff, or I'm the delivery company 170 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: or the salesman who who does that, then I'm I'm 171 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: going to see my sales increase. So a decrease in 172 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: the interest rate. If Powell announces it at two o'clock today. 173 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: If that happens, it's got to be significant enough to 174 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: make a difference. But there is also a certain amount 175 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: of sideline sage people sitting back and going. Interest rates 176 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: have actually dropped. I track these. You got people at 177 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: six and a third six and a half right now, 178 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: are who are locking in mortgages right now? You got 179 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: a lot of people sitting on the sideline going, I'm 180 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: not going to lock in right now because it's going 181 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: significantly lower. And I actually think that's true. I don't 182 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: know how significantly. I think Powell is locked in his heels, 183 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 2: and I think he's very prideful, and I think that 184 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 2: that clouds his judgment over good decision making. I think 185 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 2: he doesn't want I think he perceives he's one of 186 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: these very weak men who is strong when he closes 187 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: the door at his study and thinks he's a tough man, 188 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: but out in public is and god forbid somebody ever 189 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 2: take a swing at him. I mean, he's this is 190 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: not a tough man in person. This is a little 191 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: weasily type. But you know we've seen these types before. 192 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: They can be very dangerous. This is an Anthony Fauci. 193 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: They can be very dangerous because they are so petuant, 194 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: because they're a runt, they're little. So if Powell leads 195 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: a rate drop that drops into the fives, that would 196 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: be aggressive. Let's say it's going to be a series 197 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: of them. But let's say within the month, whereat if 198 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: we could be at five point five. But let's say 199 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: we could be at five and three quarters. I suspect 200 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: that would be enough to get people. It's the uncertainty. 201 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to lock in at what are better interest 202 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: rates than they were six months ago. Nobody wants to 203 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: lock in on that because they don't want to be 204 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: the fool that I'll use around themous. They don't want 205 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: to be a fool that locked in at six point five. 206 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 2: When interest rates can down to five point seventy five 207 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 2: and you can say, well, you can refinance maybe some 208 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 2: loans you can't refinance. You can't refinance that fast, and 209 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 2: there is a transactional cost to refinancing. So I think 210 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: a lot of people are sitting on the sideline waiting 211 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: to take out a loan or to refinance, or to 212 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: do the various things, or to buy to make capital acquisitions. 213 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: You've also got folks trying to do that before the 214 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: end of the year, especially if they can ac celebrate 215 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: depreciation for the year. A lot of those factors. But 216 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: who that's affecting is, let's say mac mac will be 217 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: very honest, A number of folks finance their furniture, especially 218 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: if you come in and buy a whole houseful of 219 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: furniture several hundred thousand dollars. That's not something people pay. 220 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: I mean, some people do, but a lot of his 221 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: folks are working class folks and they've just moved here, 222 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: or this is their forever home, it's their dream home. 223 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: Maybe a young married couple. They want to have a 224 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: house full of furniture that they've moved into their first house. 225 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: They're going to finance that. That interest rate is going 226 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: to affect it. Mike Bachis at lone Star Chevy. It 227 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: is definitely an impediment to selling Silverados or Tahoes or 228 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: suburbans if you're waiting on the interest rate to come down, 229 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: because not a lot of folks are paying cash for 230 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: their vehicle. So if that interest rate comes down, he's 231 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: going to sell more Chevies. All of these things, And 232 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: of course, you know Mike Figen at Design Tech homes 233 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: in Republic Grand Ranch. I was with Gary Summer this 234 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: weekend and we were talking about sales, and he said, 235 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: we're killing it right now. I forget how many you're selling. 236 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: Three hundred homes a year. We're killing it right now. 237 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: But if that interest rate gets down into the fives, 238 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to have to jump on the phones because 239 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people waiting, a lot of people 240 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: on lists saying I want, I gotta have that, but 241 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm waiting on that. And then you'll hear a mortgage company. 242 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: You notice you don't hear mortgage companies on on the 243 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: air during our Brace. You'll hear the mortgage companies coming 244 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: back because now there'll be activity in that second far 245 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: too soon. Some informations from some of our show sponsors 246 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: that they are gearing up for a big Q four 247 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: and an even bigger Q one with expected rate cuts, 248 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: and you think of anything that people finance. Texas Pools 249 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: dot Com our pool builder, they've not built as many 250 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: new pools this year as they normally would a lot 251 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: of pool renovations as people kept the pool they had 252 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: rather than build. The Robin Leech lifestyle is the rich 253 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: and famous pool that they had planned. But a lot 254 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: of people are calling our home improvement show sponsors out, 255 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: getting a bid, getting a sense of what all it'll costs, 256 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: what it'll look like, what's the time frame. And then 257 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 2: some folks are just holding, waiting and hoping prices go 258 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 2: down and not up because they have to finance it. 259 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: So what's going to happen is it's going to be 260 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: the toilet paper before the storm. When the interest rates hit, 261 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: there go the phone lines. So the feast or famine 262 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: world of home improvement, worst case scenario will kick in. 263 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: And so everybody that's been putting off getting a new 264 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: roof because it's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars because 265 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: they have a ten thousand square foot house or a 266 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: pool or a house or whatever else is going to 267 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: make that call. And now all of a sudden, you 268 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: go from you being able to control within reason when 269 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: your project starts and finishes because the companies are not 270 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: as busy as they're going to be, to overnight people 271 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: angry that they can't get their work done within the 272 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: next couple of days. And I've waited six months for 273 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: you to do this project and kept you on hold 274 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 2: at the ready and now I've called and I need 275 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: you to come and do it right now. Yeh, but 276 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 2: some other people did that too, and there are only 277 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: so many crews available, so you'll go back to the 278 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: feast in the feast or famine world. I think about 279 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: when China, Fauci and the Democrats collaborated to kill a 280 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: lot of Americans and destroy American industry and our lives 281 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: and our rights and our freedoms and our health and 282 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: all of the interruptions and disruptions in the supply chain, 283 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 2: for instance. But I found it funny how many times 284 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: I would notice someone imposing a price increase and blaming 285 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: it on COVID because I guess they figured people are 286 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: too stupid, or imposing a delay in a process and 287 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: blaming it on COVID. It's always interesting to me how 288 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: people will build in time because they don't want rough, tough, 289 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 2: difficult schedules. You know, if you apply to a government 290 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: office for a permit that would take ten minutes to 291 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: review and stamp and give back. If they give you 292 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: a month, well it doesn't take more than the ten minutes. 293 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: It's just they're not going to devote the ten minutes 294 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: until at the end of the month. That way, if 295 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: they go on a two week vacation, if you're used 296 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: to going in and handing them the document and they 297 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: stamp it and give it back, and that process took 298 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: ten minutes. If they're out two weeks, you notice, hey, 299 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: it should only take ten minutes. Now it's taking me 300 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: two weeks. So they just build in a month and 301 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: if they get around to it three weeks from now. 302 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: You know who doesn't build in long delays. Companies humping 303 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 2: it to make a profit, Companies working very hard to 304 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 2: build customer satisfaction, a loyal customer base. That's who doesn't 305 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: do that. They find ways to shave time off. They 306 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: find ways to create products and services based on the consumer. 307 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: If you read Walter Isaacson's books, two books on Steve 308 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: Jobs and Elon Musk, each of them them probably a 309 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: thousand pages of their long. They're tomes. It'll take you 310 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: a minute, but you will see approaches to business that 311 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: are strangely similar, and you start noticing things in society 312 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: about which way businesses are run. Those are not the 313 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: only two charismatic, innovative leaders of companies. But when you 314 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: start looking at what drives them in fact, they have 315 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: a lot in common with Trump in this way. The 316 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: entrepreneurial mind looks for a problem that can be solved. 317 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: You think of Sharper Image. You remember Sharper Image or 318 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: sky Mall. You'd open up the sky Mall magazine and 319 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: you would see products and maybe they didn't deliver on 320 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: what they promised, but you could see products that were 321 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: designed around solving a problem you have. Do you notice 322 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: that when you don't want your dog to bark because 323 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: you're trying to be quiet, your dog barks, introducing they 324 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: and then oh, well that's a problem I have. Everything 325 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: was solution oriented based on a user who was in 326 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: charge of a company that was that mindset, which is 327 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: the exact opposite of the way government works. Government is 328 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: not in the solution business. There's no incentive for government 329 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: to solve your problem, and that's why they don't. There's 330 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 2: no drived Orange early yesterday afternoon and on Ien at 331 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 2: about Baytown or so Deldale. I exited Delldal and went 332 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: off and went through a neighborhood and went around. That's 333 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 2: the way ways had me going, but the freeway was 334 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: shut down. I'm not naive. I don't believe you never 335 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: have to do maintenance on the freeway. But I do 336 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: believe this, if you're going to shut the freeway down, 337 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: you damn well ought to be actually working at maximum 338 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: capacity twenty four hours a day. And I drove along 339 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 2: the feeder road because that's where it had me at 340 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: certain points, and you see entire patches where there's maybe 341 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 2: one guy and his job is to keep you from 342 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: exiting right there, and you're thinking they're in no hurry, 343 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: and then every few years they'll announce, you know, we're 344 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: giving a bonus to people who finish the. 345 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 3: Job one time. 346 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: It makes people crazy that the companies doing these things 347 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: aren't in any hurry at all to get the project finished. 348 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: In fact, in many cases it makes more financial sense 349 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: for them to drag them out and then you just 350 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: do the equivalent of change orders on the project because 351 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: it was a low bid to get the project. But 352 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: everybody knows that low bid was a first offer. There's 353 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: going to be once you get the contract, there are 354 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: going to be change orders. And government is not in 355 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: a position because it's not their money to say no, 356 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: you're not doing that. You're gonna finish it on time, 357 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 2: on budget, and if that cuts into your profits. That's 358 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: on you, so they end up paying them more. That's 359 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: the opposite of the mindset that says, let's solve problems, 360 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: and that's why you don't want government running anything, least 361 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: of all your healthcare, your schools. 362 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: Just sit here listening to my theory. 363 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 2: Songwriter Steve Goodman at Austin City Limits, January seventeenth, nineteen 364 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: eighty two. I'll bet you somebody listening to us right 365 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 2: now was at a show sent to me by Mike 366 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: Rethmeier in Lovely Friendswood. So I know you like Steve Goodman, 367 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: here's one for you. Well, yeah, how can you be 368 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: in a bad mood listening to talk backwards? Steve Goodman 369 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: just a man and his guitar entertaining with clever wordplay. 370 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: I mean, Sandy Peterson, our research director, pointed out, I 371 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: was talking about the interest rate cut and how that 372 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: was going to spur a lot of economic activity do 373 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. It will be referred to 374 00:25:54,560 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: as spurring electric economic activity, in the way you spur 375 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: a horseship, kick it in the rib cage to get 376 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: it to go when it doesn't want to or was 377 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 2: it prepared to. But that's not really what's happening. What's 378 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: really happening is like the doors to Walmart on Black Friday, 379 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: interestingly named where when they open the doors, you've got 380 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: everybody jammed up against there and then they trample each 381 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: other going in. And I'll admit I like it. 382 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: I like it. 383 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: Please don't ever end that tradition, because I figure anybody 384 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: at the front of that line getting trampled dare I say, 385 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: deserves it because you know what you're you know what 386 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: cheap chinese chotchkey? Are you willing to sacrifice your life for? 387 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: There's no way you're surprised. Look at who's around you. Honestly, 388 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: did you expect these people to be reasonable? Did you 389 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: expec back decorum going into Walmart? And you're just lucky 390 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: that these are the people that are mostly going to 391 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: pay for what they're getting. You didn't see yesterday's shift. 392 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: They don't show up on Black Friday. They just show 393 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: up and steal it. They don't want a crowd around 394 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 2: getting in the way. Oh yes, oh yes. So Sandy 395 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: Peterson made the point, don't forget the new tax right off, 396 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: where is accelerated appreciation? So you take all the depreciation 397 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: in the year that you purchase. So I know you 398 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 2: understand this, and people who buy assets capital assets understand this. 399 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: But if you spend a million dollars on a piece 400 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 2: of equipment or far more. In a commercial environment, a 401 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 2: million bucks on a piece of equipment is not even 402 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: that much. But you've got small companies five ten employees 403 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: where if they can spend a million bucks on a 404 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: piece of equipment that they desperately need, that will increase 405 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: productivity exponentially. And instead of having to do what we 406 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: would refer to a straight line appreciation, let's say that 407 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: the useful life of that asset was ten years. Then 408 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: typically in the past, and I'm oversimplifying, I understand that 409 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: you don't have to tell me that. But in the past, 410 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: you would appreciate one hundred thousand per year. So simply put, 411 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: and again i'm oversimplifying, but you would reduce your earnings 412 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: by a one hundred thousand on your tax returns. So 413 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: if your corporate income tax was twenty percent of that 414 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand that you now didn't make, that's twenty 415 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: thousand you would make back. So multiply that by ten. 416 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: For a ten million dollar asset per year over ten years. However, 417 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: if instead of straight line appreciation, which is taking the 418 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: tax right off for the asset over ten years or 419 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: whatever the useful life of that asset is seven, what 420 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: if you could do it all at once. So now 421 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: that million dollar asset that you purchased, you can deduct 422 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: on an accelerated appreciation overnight. We saw this, I'll give 423 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: you a good example. You saw it in a lot 424 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: of industries. We saw this with the private jet industry. 425 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: Trump created a firestorm, I mean just an absolute explosion 426 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: in activity of jet sales, which actually drove jet prices 427 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: up when he offered accelerated depreciation on jet purchases. So 428 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: I had a group of friends, four guys. They bought 429 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: a plane. I think it was a little over to me. 430 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: Let's say it was two million, and they were a 431 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: foursome in the deal. So each of them had five 432 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: hundred thousand into it, and they were able to depreciate. 433 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: And there are lawyers and CPAs who actually specialize in 434 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: these sorts of things, so they're basically able to knock 435 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: five hundred thousand off of their earnings for that year 436 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: on a taxable rate of almost forty percent. That's two 437 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. That's two hundred thousand dollars. You don't 438 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: have to give Uncle Sam. That's real money, no matter 439 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: who you are. Those sorts of those sorts of changes, 440 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: rule changes drive industries. They absolutely accelerate economic activity in 441 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: particular industries. Well, you're going to see that. If you 442 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: see a drop of you see a drop of fifty 443 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: or seventy five basis points, which won't happen overnight, but 444 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: could happen by the end of the year. So you're 445 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: going to see Q four economic activity increase, and by 446 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: Q one next year election year twenty twenty six, and 447 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: you're going to see that start to heat up through 448 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: the spring and into the summer. That could work out 449 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: very very well for Republican chances in the mid terms 450 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: next November. A lot of things can happen between now 451 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: and then. They're going to pull another Wuhan flu. I'm 452 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: certain of it. I see it coming. I'm without a 453 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: doubt they're going to do it. They're going to try 454 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: to bring back paper balloting, they're going to accuse Trump 455 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: of everything, they're going to try to kill him again. 456 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: I'm certain of all of those, but I am bullish 457 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: bullish to where we are