1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: with Fred Smoot and Santana mas Skies. How was the weekend? Man? 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: How was your vacation? 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Man? 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,079 Speaker 2: I missed you. 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Man, I missed you too, Man, I miss both you guys. 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: I was coming back on the trip and I was like, man, 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, I miss those guys. I miss Fred making 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: fun of my lack of hair, and how old I 10 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: look at such a nice work environ. 11 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 3: Now that I look at your legs, you are half 12 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 3: chi a pit like you do have Harry, just not 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: on your head. 14 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: I know I got Harry face, you know, like my 15 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: legs are Harry. I got you, you know. 16 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: But that's what that's that's what I missed. 17 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: I missed the vacation. I don't miss you guys. 18 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're to Orlando, right, Yeah? That man I had. 19 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: I had a good time. Man, it was much needed. 20 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: Uh. 21 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 5: My daughter turned seven Congress in the June, and two 22 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 5: years ago I promised her Orlando because all the other 23 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 5: kids we was like, you know, especially knowing my playing years, 24 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 5: Harry all season was like yeah, the same old. So 25 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 5: all the kids got those experiences, but her, and I 26 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 5: think I was trying to do around the COVID time, 27 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 5: and COVID happened, and COVID changed the rules. 28 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: They changed everything. 29 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: You have to. 30 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 5: Basically reserve your tickets before you get it. You can't 31 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 5: just come there like I used to do and just 32 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 5: buy the ticket. So two years, three years later, I'm 33 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 5: finally taking her. She put pressure on me, so I 34 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 5: made sure that the pressure. 35 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: I was just reading something that said that a tendants 36 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: of the parture downand was it busy or was it 37 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: kind of like chill? No, it was busy. So they're 38 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: lying in the media. 39 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 4: You know. 40 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 5: I used to do a lot of that stuff unconsciously. 41 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 5: Now I'm very conscious about everything I do. Spend all 42 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 5: that stuff, you know why. And I'm like, I was 43 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 5: paying as much for these tickets. 44 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, listen, the older we get, the sheep, 45 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: we get. 46 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 4: My line passed that university was two hundred forty dollars 47 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 4: per person. 48 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: Yes, And I was like. 49 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: Boy, they better have a good time. 50 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: I'm about a thousand dollars to skip a line. 51 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: Man, it's ridiculous. 52 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: But guess what she had a great time. She already 53 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: talking about next year. Yeah, I did my job, same 54 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 5: thing again. 55 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: Next year is that it's always something different. 56 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 4: But Disney should always be on my list. 57 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 5: Just because I have those kids that that that young, 58 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 5: you want to give them that experience every year. I mean, 59 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 5: that was something that I experienced. My mother, her siblings experience. 60 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 5: Why not give her the same? 61 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: Well did you ride in the Rise? Because I don't 62 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: ride Rise anymore like Vertigo. I don't have then test 63 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: and afford. 64 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: To do it anymore. 65 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: I don't I don't have the love like I think 66 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: it was the year before last we went down to 67 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 3: U Bush Guarden. 68 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: We went to. 69 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: Bush Guardens, my kids talking me to getting on the 70 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: new ride they had just opened up. 71 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: No, it was the I don't know what it was, 72 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 2: but I lost. I almost threw up. 73 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 3: I wish I had a pamp on it and that 74 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: when I realized then that thrill seeking I used to 75 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: have it's gone. 76 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: I'm a shell of myself. 77 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah we are. 78 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: We are. 79 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 5: We're much older than those those days where we had 80 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 5: fun riding Rise. I didn't go there with that intention, 81 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 5: but to make sure that I enjoyed the time with them. 82 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: I got on right. You do like Disneyland. 83 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: So we're Disney the world in the world first because 84 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: you know Disneyland. 85 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: Right, those rights are pretty chill. 86 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, VERSU was more than that was Sunday Saturday. 87 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: Getting scared just looking at those rights. 88 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: I can't do it anymore. I'm a cow like. I 89 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: hate to say it. I did have a rash. 90 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 5: So check it if you go to university, get on 91 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 5: the I believe it's the what's the Dinosaur movie? That 92 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 5: everyone that's the men? Trust me, Bro, I lost my mind. 93 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 5: But it was so much fun. I was like, Bro, 94 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 5: I do it again. 95 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome, that's great, a ton of fun. So 96 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: speaking of a ton of fun, man, we got the 97 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: NFL Top one hundred players that's coming out Washington. Hopefully 98 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: we'll have some guys on this list. Yeah right, I 99 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: think this. I think this year. It feels like it's 100 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: gonna be this. This is hole bunch of guys. Easy 101 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: do we have who are like kind of the top 102 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: guys you think are gonna make this list? 103 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: I'm start because I know Fred one of those guys. 104 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: He got excited. 105 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: I know he's gonna say, like five thousand people, people 106 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: from different teams. 107 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 5: Sure we should have three guys. Okay, we got and 108 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 5: we said the names, you know, before we. 109 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 4: Got on air, Payne, Allen and. 110 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 5: Terry to me those because you know, you look at 111 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 5: this top one hundred, We're not talking about just overall. 112 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: We're talking about that season. Yeah, last year alone. 113 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 5: And when I look at the position by position, those 114 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 5: guys all dominate their position. You know, they was all 115 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 5: they was in the top leading. They weren't just leaders 116 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 5: on their team in the division, in the league. Their 117 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 5: numbers stood out amongst other guys who play in the position. 118 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 5: So if we send the top one hundred, they have 119 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 5: to be up there. I mean, it's one hundred guys. 120 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: You got to pick between thirty two teams, Mike, average 121 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: two players. 122 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: Maybe I got a wild card. 123 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: For you to take. You to steal one from our producer. 124 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: You just you No, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not 125 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: a thief like that. Tris Way. 126 00:04:51,440 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just saying I think he could SQUI he's 127 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: in there because they gonna at least take two pounds 128 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: at least Has there ever been a play in the 129 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: top one hundred justin Tunker the kicker. 130 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: Offensive That's that's interesting value there So is a punter 131 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: the same value as a good kicker. I don't do 132 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: as a defense, it's a defensive he's a position. 133 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he changes the field. 134 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 5: He's like one of the top key elements of the defense. Like, hey, 135 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 5: pinus pin him back there, We got you. 136 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 137 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 4: I mean, you watch our games if when we needed. 138 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 5: To play Trestwaite was pinning somebody deep and our defense 139 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 5: was coming through, and then we were sitting there waiting 140 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 5: on the offense to make come on, find a way 141 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: to get you know, get a drive on. 142 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: So no, I'm sorry I didn't I left his name. 143 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 4: I wasn't even thinking. 144 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 5: That the players surprises are gonna be our MVP. 145 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: On his team And I'm just saying, and you got 146 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: Cam Carroll yep, Cam Curls and another sneaky one. So 147 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: my question to you would be like, you know, we've 148 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: got terrry On here, right. 149 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 150 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: It's usually between ten and fifteen receivers on the list, 151 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: Like where does he follow in that hierarchy for you? 152 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: Like is he going to be a top fifty guy 153 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: or is he going to just kind of squeak into 154 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: the way. 155 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: I think he'll probably squeak in because, unlike the rest 156 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: of the receivers, I respect him because he hasn't had 157 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: that quarterback. He continues to make right and I think 158 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: that's going to hurt him when you try to compare 159 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: him to aj Brown. How you try to compare him 160 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: to Jamar Chase, Well, the one thing he doesn't have 161 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: is they running mate. 162 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 5: See one of the things that and Fred hit it 163 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 5: on the head. I think, what when we get to 164 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 5: judging these guys and you know, being critical about who's 165 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 5: the best, they look at numbers, they don't look at 166 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 5: the circumstances. Yeah, and I think his circumstances should allow 167 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 5: him to be in the top one hundred, because if 168 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 5: you're doing it like this, then man, you don't one 169 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 5: of the best. 170 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: With Carson Wentz, I'm really glad you brought that up 171 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: because you I don't know if you ever voted for 172 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: a top one hundred player, right that was howter you 173 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: retired right? 174 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: Not to retiren Tenna. 175 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: You remember doing this? I was, yeah, I was in 176 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: I was in the league still to do this. They 177 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: used to drop off the top one hundred sheet in 178 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: the in the in the in the room, and you 179 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: had to do it before you could leave the building. 180 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: So I remember going in there with all the other 181 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: tight ends and literally being like who who is on 182 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: Sports Center? Like that's how we did it. Guys would 183 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: pick you, and so to me, I think one of 184 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: the things is like Terry, for example. 185 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: Ain't a household like the rest. 186 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: I think that hurts him a little bit. But you're right. 187 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 5: But a lot of these guys are different now because 188 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 5: they're looking at it. See when we was playing, guys 189 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 5: will not going to pick a guy who torched him. 190 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: Now, I ain't putting him on you know. I'm the 191 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 4: same way with the pro bow pro Bow. 192 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 5: They were like, I ain't putting the putting them on there. 193 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 5: These days, these guys are more friendlier to each other. 194 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 5: They understand, they watch it. 195 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 4: You know, it's so much. 196 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 5: Football media, I mean media is everywhere now you can 197 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 5: watch it on your phone. So they seeing what Terry's 198 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 5: doing over here. You know, quietly he's dominating, you know. 199 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: And so the reason why I look at Terry is 200 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: getting he gets love from his peers more than he 201 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: might get loved from the outlet. Intereship with that, you 202 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 5: know what I mean. 203 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: But you gotta realized Trayvon Diggs smoked him, Big play 204 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: slave smoked him like every time the opponent. 205 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: He goes and gets and that, and there's a dB. 206 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: I respect the guy that ain't playing with Peyton Manny 207 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: more than I respect the guy to do. 208 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 4: And he's doing it quietly. He's not beating his chest. 209 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 4: He's not. 210 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: That hurts him. You know. It was like as a teammate, 211 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: I love, I love everything Terry does. He's quiet about 212 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: his work, but like for him to get. 213 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: He don't sell itself. 214 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 4: That does hurt when it comes to nationally. 215 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, because you know, you hear 216 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 5: about the guys that did all that because you saw 217 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 5: him celebrating in ESPN, you know, had that clip. 218 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: But when I'm talking about peer to peer, those guys 219 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: like man, I'm glad he didn't show up. He showed 220 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 4: me up. 221 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: But he deserved my vote. You know what I'm saying. 222 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: Quite a good point playing in the NFC, which is 223 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 3: that the vision that gets all the eyes on it, 224 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: And that's a good the New York Giants. 225 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: Especialist last year. Yes, so yeah, So then my next 226 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: question is Paint and Allen. Who's higher on the list. 227 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: Usually with the top twenty fire that's top one hundred, right, 228 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: Usually it's the guy that's been more consistently good, that's 229 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: rated higher. But Pain had such a big. 230 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 3: I feel say Pain jumped him last year because on 231 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 3: the list, what have you done for me lately? 232 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: That's the whole thing. 233 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: And then you know, we love to get a new 234 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: guy a lot more love than the old guy, the 235 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: guy that been here doing it for years and year. 236 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 5: Will say this, and I don't want to say it 237 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 5: in the wrong way. Just being a guy in this 238 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 5: league and knowing how folks will view you, I'm I'm 239 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 5: pretty sure that every officer line look at John Allen 240 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 5: like that's that's I want to see him. 241 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 4: But when they look at. 242 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 5: Pain, they be like, that's a freak of nature. You 243 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 5: do things he does, and you have to compare the two. 244 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 5: He's the freak, he's the dog, and they all have 245 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 5: both of it in him, you know what I mean. 246 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 5: But John seems to be that guy that he's gonna 247 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 5: consistently be just on where you're behind down bring the 248 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 5: same intensity and pain as that guy. They scratching their 249 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 5: head like why is he so fast, explosive and being 250 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 5: at this side, you know what I mean? 251 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: Why? 252 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 4: Why how can he do all these things at this side. 253 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 5: So that's to me, when it comes to comparing those two, 254 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 5: you can't say one is better than the other. 255 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: You just say they just have different you know, levels 256 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: of themselves. 257 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think that's really insightful. Tan. 258 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: I think the thing that gets me is like how 259 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: does the league see them? Because we see him every day, 260 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like, you know, like 261 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: we know Allen's this kind of hard nosed leader, and 262 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: we know Pain is a good athlete. But I'm curious 263 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: to see how the league using. My other question is 264 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: that it is one of those guys the best defensive 265 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: tackle in the division or will there be another guy 266 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: from the division that's higher on the. 267 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: List where they like to put Lawn Dexter Lawrence up 268 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: there from New York. 269 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: You hear that name all the time, but he played 270 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: like he balled this last year. 271 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then gro just left Philadelphia. But they also 272 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: still have Jordan Davis and then they did. 273 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: Dre but he will make the Listen. 274 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is, if you look at it, 275 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: the Cowboys don't got a d tackle like out of 276 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: the tackles, Yes, they are the best pair the question 277 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: is who who was the best one of those in 278 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: the division right now? 279 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: So I think, well, i'd say Lawrence is probably headed 280 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: and then it'll be painting Allen. Is that what you're thinking? 281 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: So was Lawrence played last year better than anyone about? 282 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think he had twelve and a 283 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: half sacks. 284 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: He had, That's what That's how we compared. 285 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: Compare up the numbers, you know what I mean. That's 286 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: a good point. 287 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 5: You can probably put those guys side by side and say, 288 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 5: you know, hey, they can you know. 289 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: And also I will say Lawrence had that dominant I 290 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: think at twelve tackles in the playoff game, you know 291 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. 292 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 3: At the end of the year, Lawrence really turned it on. 293 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: He turned especially against us, he turned it on. 294 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that that's interesting. So I'm really 295 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: glad you brought this up. I'm trust was the surprise 296 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: of the day for me, Fred like I got I'm 297 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: smiling still because of that. 298 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: I give props Well, props are doing the townail shows 299 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: and Trust. 300 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 4: Has been the MVP for us. 301 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: Yes, But the one, the one that I really am 302 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: interested in is Cam craw because you look at the 303 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: PFF grade He's the highest graded PFF safety. We know 304 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: when he's absent from the defense, like what he does 305 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: when I you know, I did a Cam crow breakdown 306 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: last week. He is everywhere. He plays linebacker, plays nickel, 307 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: plays safety. His value is uncalculable. But he doesn't have 308 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: the numbers right. 309 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,719 Speaker 5: And I was gonna say the reason why, you know 310 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 5: and Cam Curll, like when you ask me one of 311 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 5: my favorite players on the team right now, I tell you, guys, 312 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 5: Cam Crell is one of my favorite. 313 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: Uh being a receiver. 314 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 5: I watch him a lot, just knowing you know, what 315 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 5: he brings and and how you know you have to 316 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: be that quarterback back there. You know, he remind me 317 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 5: of Ed Read a little bit. You know, he can 318 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 5: play every position, peop. It didn't give Ed Read that 319 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 5: credit that he can play in a box anywhere. 320 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 4: You know, he can play anywhere. Will line up and 321 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: play your damn. 322 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: Best best received calls and force to the house. 323 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 5: The difference, the difference because the reason why I think 324 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 5: they will look at Cam Curll and greet them a 325 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 5: little lord. And when we see him, and I'm saying 326 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 5: where we see him because of the amount of times 327 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 5: he touches the ball. He changes the field, you know, 328 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 5: and you want a safety to be able to change 329 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 5: the field with interceptions and you know, force fumbels or 330 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 5: pick up you know, you know, from recoveries and stuff 331 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 5: like that. So that's where I say that the league 332 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 5: might not view him as that valuable to be in 333 00:12:59,160 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 5: this list. 334 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: But he's one of my guys, so you know, I 335 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: always you know. 336 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: And he's more Brian Dawkins to me because he's such 337 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: a box animal. He like more Brian Dalkin. He bring 338 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: a certain intensity put like this. It's a defensive backs, 339 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: a super smart player. I know when he on the 340 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 3: field and when he's not on the field because I 341 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 3: can tell about the defensive backs, how they talk, how 342 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: they communicate, everything's totally different when he's on the field. 343 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 3: So I think his his worth to this team is 344 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 3: a lot more than his physical play. I think it's 345 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: his mental makeup in his leadership. 346 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: So do you think other players around the league recognize that? 347 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 5: I think that's what this listen is and that's what 348 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 5: I'm and that's what I'm questioning, like, do they know 349 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 5: how valuable he is? 350 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 3: No, because he ain't got the playoff games. You know, 351 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: this is where you make your name. This is the 352 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: way you separate yourself. 353 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: So I think the turnovers, I think that's another Yeah, 354 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: he's not. 355 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 2: Like like Defro like people will probably be like, No. 356 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: Twenty two was around the ball so much and made 357 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: so many plays. 358 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 4: But we know when on the field we're in trouble, 359 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 360 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: So so I think I think that's a good kind 361 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: of consensus there, Terry Allen Payne hopefully Cam. I think 362 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: trust deserves it. But obviously yeah, so will he make 363 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: it's no respect, But that would be interesting. Anybody that 364 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: this is something I wanted to ask you, Fred, anybody 365 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: for this upcoming season, based on the new offense, based 366 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: on the new defense, you think has a shot to 367 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: make it in uh twenty twenty four. 368 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: Listen, I just I look for the oddities and the 369 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: oddities on offense. To me, the guys that you can't quantify, 370 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: they don't they don't look like they're supposed to. 371 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: Curtis Samuels and Antonio Gibbs. 372 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: I just feel like in this offense, they're going to 373 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: make plays in space like nobody knows, like I know 374 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: how a West Coast offense does. 375 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: Like they take their number one and they use their 376 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: number one receiver. 377 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: To open it up for everybody else. Is they attack 378 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: the field vertically and horizontally. And I think when they 379 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: attack the horizontally, it's gonna be two guys on their table, 380 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: and that's gonna be a g and it's gonna be curtisself. 381 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think any other one that would 382 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: kind of sneaking there for me is maybe Logan Thomas. Maybe, 383 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 384 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 5: If Logan Logan is due for something more because of 385 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 5: just alone, we're having a new quarterback. 386 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 4: He needs to know who's his safety net, and Logan 387 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: is the tight end. 388 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 5: So the safety there is always gonna be that guy 389 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 5: inside where you don't have to Hey, rest sure. 390 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: If you can't see it, you can't read it, dump 391 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: it down, you know what I mean? 392 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean that would be a hug. 393 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 2: That would be this car really sitting stuff up. 394 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: I think I think Logan Thomas would because again he 395 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: just had such a good spring, you know, he just 396 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: had such a good catching the football. So I thought, Man, 397 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: if there's a guy Gibson, Gibson Logan, I didn't even 398 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: think about Curtis. 399 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: You know we all know as players too. 400 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 5: Man, just how how much weight come off your shoulders 401 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 5: when you when your body is intactice? 402 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 403 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 4: Logan, I can just imagine what he felt last year. 404 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: He couldn't even walk been in those shoes. 405 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 5: He gutted that season out. He looked like he was 406 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 5: just sitting out there, like, you know, I don't Kelly. 407 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: Throw me the ball that I want to be here. 408 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna show up. 409 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: I've been that receiver. 410 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: I've been a receiver. I had a hamstring pull. No 411 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: one knew about it. 412 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 5: Put my hamstream the two days before the damn game, 413 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 5: and I didn't tell no one. 414 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: I went to got worked on train and say, hey, 415 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 4: I don't want you to playing. 416 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: I gotta play. 417 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: I got to be on the field. He was like, 418 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: why damn. I'm like, bro, I just don't want to miss. 419 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: And I literally good it out. 420 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 5: Had three catches for fifteen yards against the Eagles and 421 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 5: we beat them on like a Sunday night or Monday night. 422 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 5: And no one knew I had a hamstring pull and 423 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 5: that's all they gave me. But I was happy with 424 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 5: that because I showed up for my team. So when 425 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 5: I watched the logan last year. I was just grunting 426 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 5: something like, I need to know the pain he's been 427 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 5: doing right now, and he just want to be out there. 428 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: He want to make sure that he hold his part down. 429 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 5: Because one of the things that people fail to realize 430 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 5: that's being a football player. It's not all about how 431 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 5: many catches, it's not all about how many touchdowns, playing 432 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 5: our positions. It's about did you do your job to 433 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 5: be that decoy, did you do your job to be 434 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 5: that blocker, or just being there for your team because 435 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 5: you was that one key guy that you wanted to 436 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 5: make sure the other team keyed on for somebody else 437 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 5: can show up. 438 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's a great point. So I think that 439 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: kind of segues nicely, like obviously this is the best 440 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: players on the team now, right, But I think Chris 441 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: Simms came out with a list, right, Uh, what is it? 442 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: Finalists for best player of the twenty first century excluding 443 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacks for this team. 444 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: Exclude quarterback they have they are not likely to. 445 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: But also I don't know if there'd be a I mean, 446 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: I guess, Yesny don't. We don't. We don't have anybody. Yeah, 447 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: that's a great point. Sorry, I was getting ahead of myself. 448 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: So the guys that he's got on the list are 449 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: drum roll, please, our very own Santana Moss deserved. I 450 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: think that's well deserved as well. 451 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: Trenton Williams, I love, but I think people keep forgetting 452 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 3: about Chris Samuels. 453 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: I think people keep forgetting about six scrape. 454 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: He was in the nineties, right, Chris was with me 455 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: in the two thousands. 456 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: He played with he got drafted in. 457 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: Two thousands, two thousands, he got him in the Boa ye. 458 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he finished in twenty teen. 459 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: Finished like yo. 460 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 4: He was here before we got right right right right. 461 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: The time we got yeah, because I remember he was 462 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: still coaching. He was like an assistant the first year 463 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: he coached, Yeah, coach one year. Oh yeah. So and 464 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: then London Fletcher and Ryan Kerrigan, D'Angel hall. 465 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see. No, Sean Taylor, I'm sorry, but it's 466 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I just. 467 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 4: Think that, you know, and I'm gonna be really real 468 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 4: with you. I appreciate, you know, being in that list. 469 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: The hell I was here. I was here. 470 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 5: I was able to go out there and play and 471 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 5: perform and probably get a little a lot of that 472 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 5: recognition Uh, it's a couple of guys I can easily 473 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 5: say we can. 474 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: Put in there. So, yeah, who would you? 475 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: I throw a Porters in there. I throw Chris Samuels 476 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: in there. Hell, I threw smooth and the smooth play 477 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 4: long enough, and he was dominant on his team. 478 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: You were put there. I'll put him in there. Yeah, 479 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: because I don't really know that much about your career, 480 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like put like this. 481 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 3: I paired up with me and cham Bailey to start off, 482 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: me and Sewan Springs, me and and Twine when Field, 483 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: me and d how me and Colos Rogers. I've always 484 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: paired up with pretty good come We all played. We 485 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: only played man and man like that was our thing. 486 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 3: And I had to check the t Os of the world, 487 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: the Joey Galloways of the world, the random uses of 488 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 3: the world, and as you look, I'm not on any 489 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 3: of their highlights. I was the second corner ever to 490 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: go a whole entire season in O seven without giving 491 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 3: up a touchdown. So I've had my spurts, but I 492 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 3: would just I just throw shunning it because I'm about dominant. 493 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: How many games did I play in that somebody changed 494 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: like Lebar had some games in my early years that 495 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: he changed the game for us. But when Sean got here, 496 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: that's that was different. Like I watched him dictate games 497 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 3: in a way that I hadn't watched anybody do that. 498 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 2: So I just I know it was short. I know 499 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: it was short lived. I know four seasons. I know, 500 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: I know it was short lived. But I'm about dominant. 501 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: It was. 502 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 5: He was dumbinant And just to kind of, you know, 503 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 5: piggyback off of him speaking on that, That's where I 504 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 5: was at when I watch this list. 505 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for acknowledge of me. 506 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 4: I think I did what I had to do here. 507 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 1: Uh. 508 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 5: You know when I when I grade players, when I 509 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 5: grave myself, I look at the widespread you know, I 510 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 5: look at Okay, what did you do for the team 511 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 5: that you played for? 512 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 4: One? 513 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 5: So you can check that off with me, Tanna, you 514 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 5: did everything? What did you do for that room that 515 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 5: you you played in? 516 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: Okay? 517 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 4: I was one of those dominant guys in that room, 518 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 4: whether through all. 519 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 5: The years I played, you know what I mean, whether 520 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 5: I was the first guy or in the slot, I 521 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 5: was dominant at that position. 522 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: Then I said, okay, what did you do in. 523 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 5: The division, What did you do as a whole in 524 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 5: the league? And then what names stand out of this list? 525 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: Uh? 526 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 4: Three? 527 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 5: Three names will say that I can say that stands out, 528 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 5: you know when it comes to just looking at that 529 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 5: from the widespread of their whole career. Here, Trent, Williams, 530 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 5: London and Ryan you know, I think they was all 531 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 5: dominant in all those I mean, check out the box 532 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 5: and all those now and then now now now two 533 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 5: names stand out the most. 534 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 4: Trent in London because when we talk about best at 535 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 4: what they're doing, the best that they position, Trent was 536 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: arguably the. 537 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: Best left tack still is and tesday to day. 538 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, while he was here and since he's been gone. Yeah, London, London. 539 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying pro bow every year that he dominates, that. 540 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 4: Tells you enough. 541 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: He's the best offensive tackle of his generation. 542 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 5: So when so I put that in, okay, so boom. 543 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 5: Now he moves up the ladder. Londonably the best. 544 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: His numbers mimic Ray Lewis, he's better. He got some 545 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 2: numbers better than. 546 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: Ray, But there was so many other guys that they 547 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 5: probably gave a better, gave a not too in London. 548 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 5: But I knew what he meant to us. So when 549 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 5: I when I when I compare all that, I would say, 550 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 5: the one guy that stands out on this list will 551 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 5: just be Trent. 552 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 553 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 5: I would I would say if I had to pick 554 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 5: from these guys right here, even myself included, I'm not 555 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 5: finishing here, and I'm gonna be real Trent Williams because 556 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 5: he domin dominated, and he always was a Pro Bowl player, 557 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 5: just like Chris Sam, and we don't have Christian. Chris 558 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 5: Sam went to the Pro Bowl every year, domb every year, dominant, 559 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 5: you know, years the. 560 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 4: Fact Chris was not on this list. I'm picking from 561 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: this list Trent, Trent Wins Wins. 562 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: It's interesting, you know, because I have I obviously played 563 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: with Trent. I like Trent a lot. He was we 564 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: dropped it the same year, all that stuff. I always 565 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: wonder because he's so dominant now with the forty nine ers, 566 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: if people kind of confound that because he was really 567 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: really really good here, but now he's dominant. He's amazing. 568 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: When you had injury, why is it? 569 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 4: See the game changes when you get a little older. 570 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 5: That's why you know, I love talking about just game 571 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 5: and how they weed the old players out. 572 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 4: When we was around, but when we came in, all 573 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 4: the old players were still there. 574 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 575 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 5: It was giving us the game and we were sitting 576 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 5: there scratching our head like why is he still here? 577 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 4: Because that's what you need. 578 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 5: And the teams got crazy in our generation tried to 579 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 5: weave us. But then you saw them soon as they realized, Okay, 580 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: now let's keep these old quarterbacks around. 581 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:04,239 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 582 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: We're keeping the old quarterback, but we're gonna we the 583 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 4: skial guys out. 584 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 5: That don't make sense because you need those guys, even 585 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 5: if they can't play on the caliber or the level 586 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 5: that they played on when they came in. Their knowledge 587 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: of the game is everything I used to sitting there, 588 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 5: me and Trent had signs when I knew a guy 589 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 5: was coming hot when I'm in a slot, and I 590 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 5: mean I hit Trent or say something that Trent was like, 591 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 5: I got you, and he knew to pick up that 592 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 5: guy because we had little keys, you know what I mean. 593 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 5: And that's what separates you from certain guys. But that 594 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 5: don't come up on the stat sheit. You know what 595 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 5: I'm saying. You're playing the game within the game. Your 596 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 5: IQ is now on the level of man I don't 597 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 5: saw at all. So you know that's what I sit 598 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 5: and rave about when I see some of the guys 599 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 5: like Trent, who's still around. 600 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: He played off of just his athleticism when he played 601 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 4: with us. I did that. I told many stories about 602 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 4: not watching film, just beating the guy. 603 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 5: But when I had that last knee surgery, that third 604 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 5: knee surgery in twenty ten, oh, I don't feel that 605 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 5: gear or two that I had. Now it's time to 606 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 5: beat him with my mind, you know what I mean. 607 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 5: That's what Trent doing. He still has the he's still 608 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 5: having athleticism, has that aggressive but his mineus, His mine 609 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 5: is superb. Now he's on a level like no other 610 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 5: because he has the knowledge. He's he don't play so 611 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 5: many games. 612 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: And he happy. I could always tell when the player happy, 613 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: like he's happy. 614 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: Where he is now is yeah, yeah, yeah. So another one. 615 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: So a couple of questions here. One, Ryan Kerrigan not 616 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: getting a lot of love. Right well, all time all 617 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: time leader in uh sacks for franchise history, right yeah. 618 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: In terms of a guy you could just set your 619 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: watch by. Yeah, he was gonna play, He's. 620 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,239 Speaker 2: Gonna be there when you meet him. 621 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 4: Ryan Carrigan undoubtedly did what he had to do. 622 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But guess what the thing about it? If 623 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: I look at him and say, who's complete? 624 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: Meaning no weaknesses? 625 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: The one thing we can say about Ryan he gonna 626 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: pass rush, but you can run at it. 627 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: And this is what teams did. They've ran at him. 628 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: Sure, So. 629 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 3: Out of all the guys, I think him and d 630 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: how would be the ones where this when people start 631 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 3: the augur for Shun Taylor, the start the augur for 632 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: somebody else. 633 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: But no, these guys did the job. Don't get the trust. 634 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: They did the job at the highest level. 635 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: Who would you put defensively from a defensive lineman standpoint, 636 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: who would you put ahead of Ryan like? I mean 637 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: just from like, I can't think of anybody. I don't 638 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: think no about. The one would be like Rack. Maybe 639 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: he was right. 640 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: Rack didn't have a lot of pass moves. 641 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 4: Rack was so undersize for what he for what we 642 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 4: asked him to do. 643 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 5: He wasn't in the right defense. Hands down, he wasn't 644 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 5: in the right defense. And I don't even know all 645 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 5: of now, but I can just watch him. Levars started 646 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 5: out fast. 647 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: Only two years he started out fast, but Greg Williams 648 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 3: injuries I think sidetracked. 649 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 2: Him a little. 650 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think Ryan seems obvious. Defensive back D'Angelo Hall, 651 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned. 652 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: Sean Taylor is my my vote defensive back? 653 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 3: Like because I listen, I have had I have had 654 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: the privilege to play with five Hall famous. I think 655 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: in the defensive backfield, I didn't played with the chimp Bayley's. 656 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: I played with dal Green. I had the like Shun 657 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: was the one that stuck out over all of them. 658 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry he was. He was just that different. And 659 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: I'm not not saying it because I'm his friend. I'm 660 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: saying because this is the truth. That's how I felt. 661 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: I feel. 662 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 4: Given credit when credits due. De Hall deserves to be 663 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 4: on the list. 664 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 5: But like I said before, when you're just saying that, 665 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 5: who's that one guy on this list that stands out, 666 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 5: it is what it is. I think Trent Williams get 667 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 5: the nod over London, and I think London was superb. 668 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying supposed to already. I'm just 669 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 4: looking at the wise. 670 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 5: You know when I say when the league said Trent Williams, 671 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 5: that's how you saw it, you know, they didn't. They 672 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 5: didn't do that with London, but London punched him in 673 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 5: the face every time he played them. So at the 674 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 5: end of the day, all you gotta respect London, you 675 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, And we know what he meant 676 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 5: for this team. I know what he meant as me 677 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 5: being a player on the team with him. Like I 678 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 5: was listening, you know what I'm saying. I watched, I 679 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 5: sat there and new when the defense need to make 680 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 5: a play London and to come through. But I'm just 681 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 5: saying when we when were talking about these guys on 682 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 5: this list, Trent just stands out from the consecutive Pro Bowls, 683 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 684 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 4: I think London got robbed almost every year of a 685 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl. 686 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 687 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 4: Every year he could, he got robbed, but Trent was 688 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 4: there and he's still dominating to this day. 689 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: That's gonna say one thing about London. I mean, I 690 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: think Trent is the freakiest dude I ever played with 691 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: in my whole life. And I played with like Julio Jones, 692 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: I played with some of the freakiest guys in the NFL. 693 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: He is a man apart, Yeah, London. Fletcher from like 694 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: kind of the moral fiber of his was like that 695 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: is his superpower. He was a great athlete, but his leadership, 696 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: his drive, his focus, Like to me, like that's where 697 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: I would say. 698 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 4: You didn't get that. You didn't. You didn't never look 699 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 4: at London. 700 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 5: Like as if he was like an older brother or 701 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 5: uncle when you played with him, Like you know, I'm 702 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 5: just saying, like his demeanor in the locker room and 703 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 5: on the field was almost like regardless of how much 704 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 5: we are on the same level, I always looked at 705 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 5: him and like you're the guy. 706 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: You're the guy, You're the guy next. You know what 707 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: I'm I got a funny story. 708 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 5: I never and I'm an offensive guy, so I never 709 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 5: had to really sit up there and go, you know, 710 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 5: ask London any questions. 711 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 4: I just knew that London Fletcher leading the defense. You 712 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like we got. 713 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 5: A middle linebacker, London Fletcher. I ain't worried about what's 714 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 5: going on over there because he don't have it. 715 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: You know, I got a funny story about London. So 716 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: I remember, like, you know, you get hurt, right, you know, 717 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: turn turn my mcl separate mac joint and I come 718 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: he come in the training room and like look over 719 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: the little partition there and be like, hey, what you got? 720 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: And oh, man, you know spray mac joint. He looked 721 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: at me like, oh you're all right, Like, man, I 722 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: can't even lift my arm up right now. He's like, 723 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: you know what I did? And I was like, no, flesh, 724 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: what's up. He's like, they take my arm to my 725 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: to my body. When I did mac johint, I played 726 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the game. L I tore my mcl 727 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: and don't tell you I didn't miss a practice. I 728 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: just remember thinking, like that's the standard man. Like he's 729 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: a guy who shows tremendous physical courage, tremendous leadership and 730 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: so yeah, London is a guy that I think is 731 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: a shitting Okay, So little departure from football here. We 732 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: got something favorite offseason traditions. I'm gonna punt on that. 733 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: I got a question for you guys. You see that 734 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: picture of Patrick Mahome's house where he's got like about. 735 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: The basketball, I mean, baseball, football, gospelall all that stuff. 736 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: That's what five hundred million gets. 737 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: So what I want to know is, if you had 738 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: one thing you can put in your house, what is 739 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: that one thing. Is it like the movie theater? 740 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: Is it the movie is played out? Yeah? 741 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: What we got? 742 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: I want a waterfowl right now? 743 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: A water what? 744 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: I want to war? I just want to any house. 745 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: You know, you can put it anywhere, Tana like you 746 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: could be like I want, I want. I don't know, 747 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: like a jungle gym. I don't know. Whatever you want 748 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: man skyland. But one thing waterfall. 749 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: I'm about tranquility, right what what what? I want to 750 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: hear water falling when I'm going to refrigerating, But it's 751 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: in the how big is your house? 752 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: Like? 753 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: What do we gotta listen? 754 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the waterfowl. It's just like the whole 755 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: wall like twelve feet tall and just water dread. 756 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: And you could have anything like personal chefs and you 757 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: want I cook for myself. 758 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: I want a waterfall, man, do don't get made what 759 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: you want? 760 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm just so blown away by that. I 761 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: don't even know. It's like a big water fall is 762 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: like louder is it just want to wall. 763 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: Waterfall that's not really loud. I've seen people have like 764 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 4: you you know what I mean. So it's not like 765 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: something that that that's I'm. 766 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: A little surprised by asking what about you, tam. 767 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know me, man, I'm basic, bro, I'm so simple. 768 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: You got something you want in there? 769 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? I might. I might want a chef. 770 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: Che would be every day. 771 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: That's just me because I to make muffins the whole day. 772 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 5: No, I mean that's what that's on the lunch today 773 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 5: because I don't want to. I don't want to eat 774 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 5: all that crap. I mean, so I want to I'm 775 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 5: going to go ahead and settle for the muffin. But no, 776 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 5: because that's the prime reason someone that's gonna cook. 777 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 4: What I want. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, like 778 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 4: on the dime, like when I need it, it's. 779 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 5: All prepared, is ready. That's what I would need in 780 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 5: my house. Other than that, I don't need nothing to describe. Again, 781 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 5: I can have a chef in the apartment or a 782 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 5: damn damn condo. 783 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: Fall I care. 784 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: I just want a chef. 785 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 5: I want somebody and I can say, hey, man, I 786 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 5: want that lunch at one o'clock, I want my my 787 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 5: snack at four o'clock, I want my dinner at seven o'clock, 788 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 5: and everything else I have. 789 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 4: I got it. 790 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 5: I'm you know, I'm very routine about things there. Okay, 791 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 5: but I have a problem with my eating this weight room. 792 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: I do want to room so bad and I want 793 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: I want it to be the most decked out weight room. 794 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: I want the special plates, I want force plates, I 795 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: want data monitoring. 796 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: I wanted the whole thing. 797 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: But I know Fred, I know this man. Yeah, you're 798 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: not married anymore, but happy wife. So I would punt 799 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: on that, even though that's something I want very bad. 800 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: And I'd get my wife a farm and she could 801 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: have as many horses and like dog rescues out there. 802 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: The kids could have the dirt bikes out there taxes either. Yeah, 803 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: So as much as I want the weight room, I 804 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta pun on what I want. 805 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: Well, you know I got the farm coming. We will come. 806 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 2: What are you talking about in West Virginia? You gotta 807 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: come in farm. You know I want the two because 808 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: you gotta yea, I may invite. 809 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: You to it. Yeah, we gotta, Yeah, we gotta talk 810 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: about that more. We gotta talk about that more detail 811 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: coming out, all right. So that's gonna do it for today. 812 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: So make sure you like and subscribe wherever you get 813 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: your podcasts, and check out Command Center Wednesday's on the 814 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: Commander's YouTube. 815 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: Page, cheer you. 816 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: All right, guys, we got exclusive Commander's content for you 817 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: every single day of the week. 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I got some susquestion man, I got 829 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: it brewing. I don't want to buy tom I don't 830 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 4: want to pay attention. 831 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, pay attention. I always got to pay attention 832 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: and you always got great insight. And Friday we got 833 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: Logan Lives in the Comments, which is really is Logan 834 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: Fred and Tanna live in the comments and we've been 835 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: loving getting the questions. We got some for you each 836 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: and every day of the week. 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