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Speaker 3: the Star and Frisco inside the SWBC podcast studio, and

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Speaker 3: we are down to a final two in the National

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Speaker 3: Football League. Welcome to another edition of mix Shots. Did

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Speaker 3: any of you get the prediction right last Monday? Kansas

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Speaker 3: City versus San Francisco in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: We got half a half? We got half?

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Speaker 3: Which half? Did you get right?

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Speaker 4: Of Kansas City?

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Speaker 3: Yea?

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Speaker 5: All of you picked Kansas I picked the raven You.

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Speaker 2: Picked the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: I thought Kansas City.

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Speaker 5: I picked the Ravens.

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Speaker 6: She was.

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Speaker 3: Everybody picked Detroit? No, yes, yes, yes we did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you did too, No, yes you did.

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Speaker 4: I picked San Francisco Yeah yeah, this season he picked

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Speaker 4: it in his head show.

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Speaker 3: You know, I always picked Dallas to go to the

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Speaker 3: Super I always picked the Dallas Cowboys versus the Dallas

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Speaker 3: Texans and the Super.

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Speaker 7: Bowl, And as I was driving in this morning, I thought,

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Speaker 7: I'm so stupid. I keep picking the Cowboys, so you

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Speaker 7: stupid too.

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Speaker 2: So here we are.

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Speaker 3: We got the Chiefs and the forty nine ers and

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Speaker 3: ought to make for a very entertaining Super Bowl, and

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Speaker 3: we had a very entertaining championship Sunday on Sunday? Would

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Speaker 3: you all agree?

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Speaker 4: Quite entertaining?

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's like we called it in the Chiefs game.

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Speaker 7: I think all of us could see, well some of

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Speaker 7: most of us that I just I just couldn't see

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Speaker 7: Baltimore's offense keeping up.

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Speaker 2: That's what I just couldn't see it.

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Speaker 7: Because they're high powered offense, but they're ground and pound,

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Speaker 7: and I just knew that.

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Speaker 3: They decided not to ground and pound.

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Speaker 2: Well, you just couldn't keep up with uh.

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Speaker 4: They didn't have the ball, you couldn't.

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Speaker 2: Keep up with it.

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Speaker 7: And that's I pretty much thought that's how they were

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Speaker 7: and I thought that was gonna be the game plan.

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Speaker 3: Of the Chiefs scored seventeen points.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they got a head right. Baltimore had to

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Speaker 4: play from behind, and the so called NFL MVP when

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Speaker 4: he's behind and he's got to throw the ball, he'll

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Speaker 4: make a mistake on you.

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Speaker 3: But they through a touchdown pass that was fumbled at

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Speaker 3: the goal line.

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Speaker 7: I was going to say that was the key play

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Speaker 7: right there, if they scored that talking a whole different thing.

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Speaker 4: Not a very bright player. Well they Flowers, I.

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Speaker 7: Mean not just him, but did it against Casey. It

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Speaker 7: was the same thing, but he.

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Speaker 4: Did two stupid things within five minutes.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 5: I think they were even saying on the broadcast the

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Speaker 5: emotions kind of got the better of the Ravens just

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Speaker 5: the way that they were playing, and some of those

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Speaker 3: When the order came from the sideline to jump off sides.

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Speaker 3: They couldn't control their emotions, and Roguewan Smith gets a

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Speaker 4: And it was pretty obvious you could jump off side

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Speaker 3: Or tip the guy.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to lay out, just clock them.

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Speaker 7: But I didn't know that that was worth a personal file.

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Speaker 7: I thought you could just hit them. I thought you

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Speaker 3: That, not intentional. Credit to the officials for figuring out

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Speaker 7: I have a feeling depending on what team did and

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Speaker 3: I immediately said, that's got to be a personal really, Oh,

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Speaker 3: ended the game earlier. As it turned out, the end

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Speaker 3: down field to MVS, which I didn't think was a

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Speaker 3: surprising play call at all. No, No, you had to go.

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Speaker 3: And Tony on the broadcast was unbelievable that threw it downfield,

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Speaker 3: that's how you end the game right.

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Speaker 4: There, special if he'll catch the ball, and.

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Speaker 3: The only the only risk involved in it is it's

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Speaker 3: an income well and with Mahomes at quarterback, he's going

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Speaker 3: to take care of the football and so the only

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Speaker 3: some time off the clock. Where Baltimore with the defense

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Speaker 3: like the Chiefs have. You put the ball down there,

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Speaker 3: and you think the Ravens are going to drive the

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Speaker 4: But what they assumed was they were going to get

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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage to stop the play. So the

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Speaker 4: easiest thing to do is throw it deep.

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Speaker 3: But the Ravens had used their timeouts and that meant

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Speaker 3: you're just north of the two minute warning. That means

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Speaker 3: you get a first down. This ball game is over.

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Speaker 2: You know for it.

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Speaker 4: You can look at stats all you want, but it's

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Speaker 4: when you make plays. And that's what Mahomes did. He

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Speaker 4: didn't while you with completing twenty of twenty five passes

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Speaker 3: Twenty five in the first half, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Trying to go downfield though, and that.

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Speaker 3: Is merely the only way they were going to lose

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Speaker 4: You know, it just came out the NFL network.

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Speaker 5: How about those catches by Travis Kelce, Just some incredible

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for most post season catches in a career.

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Speaker 7: Well, well, you know what you saw was to me connection,

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Speaker 7: You saw a team work.

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Speaker 2: You saw a.

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Speaker 7: Quarterback and a tight end that were they just doubted.

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Speaker 7: They just doubted, like.

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Speaker 4: The one that Mahomes ran forward and threw it the

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Speaker 4: good pass, not a good path.

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Speaker 2: But it was the past much chance to make the play.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't gonna be You're not going to get a

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Speaker 7: great pass, and Kelsey was prepared for wherever it came.

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Speaker 7: And the touchdown itself, that was just both of them

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Speaker 7: just being in sync. Back shoulder. The dB was in

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Speaker 7: perfect position, perfect position, and all they had to do

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Speaker 7: in time and just the way that Kelsey, Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: Knew Will was coming and that was just a beautiful.

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Speaker 7: Catch, beautiful connection. You know, those are the times when

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Speaker 7: to dial it up on the same page. And they did.

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Speaker 4: And there was also another indication if you get pressure

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Speaker 4: it's going to cause problems. And that was one of

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Speaker 4: the things down the stretch the Cowboys could not do well.

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Speaker 2: saw good defenses.

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Speaker 7: No matter which side, you still gave your quarterback a chance,

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Speaker 7: you know your quarterback, and didn't have to keep scoring just.

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Speaker 2: To stay in the game. You had defenses that kept things.

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Speaker 7: I mean even Baltimore's defense, as you said, Casey didn't score.

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Speaker 4: That seventeen points.

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Speaker 2: Right, come on, I mean that defense played their asses off.

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Speaker 7: They just made a few mistakes, but they gave the

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Speaker 4: What happened to that complimentary football? The defense didn't do

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: Here's the other thing that I thought stood out to

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Speaker 4: me was and if we can just switch over to

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Speaker 4: Detroit running backs do matter?

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Speaker 2: They do? They do?

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Speaker 8: They?

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Speaker 4: And is it okay to take one in the first round?

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Speaker 8: It?

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Speaker 4: And Gibbs, what I saw from him was he made

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Speaker 2: Well, I gotta say this McCaffrey.

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Speaker 7: Yes when he did not want to be brought down,

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Speaker 7: I saw something I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I always thought he.

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Speaker 7: Was good as I thought his footwork was more amazing

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Speaker 7: I have a brand new respect for christ McCaffrey.

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Speaker 3: That's the other thing he saw in both games yesterday.

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Speaker 3: It is tough, physical football, man.

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Speaker 7: That was good stuff at not a lot of high

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Speaker 7: scoring that was That was kind of.

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Speaker 2: Like throwback football.

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Speaker 7: Those are the games that we saw back in the day,

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Speaker 7: you know, when, especially in the AFC, where the best

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Speaker 7: team didn't come out looking so pretty.

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Speaker 2: They just came out that was all they had to do.

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Speaker 4: And we thought we thought Dan Campbell was stubborn when

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Speaker 5: Kept saying to myself in my living room last night.

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Speaker 5: Kick the field goal, Kick the field goal, and they're nope,

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Speaker 5: they're going down and always it has been a tie

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Speaker 5: game last.

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Speaker 3: Night, and it could in turn, and it played out

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Speaker 3: the same way. Now, who says it would in turn?

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Speaker 3: That means when you get down on the go line

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Speaker 3: at the end, all you need to field goal to

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Speaker 2: We're not.

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Speaker 9: Happen, We're not winning a game in the field going

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Speaker 9: we're winning it.

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Speaker 3: We're getting into an angel.

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Speaker 4: My god, that's what he did. All lion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, lions.

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Speaker 4: The reason why they were where they were, well, yeah.

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Speaker 7: But sometimes you have to lift at things and say,

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Speaker 7: you know what, that's stubborn. This has gotten me in trouble.

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Speaker 7: Maybe I need to set my ass down and just

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Speaker 7: kind of.

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Speaker 4: Go kick the film.

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Speaker 4: But just think of the things that went wrong for them.

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Speaker 3: It's again, it's about being mentally strong, you know.

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Speaker 7: So let's let's let's do we need to take a

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Speaker 3: Well, I was looking at him at halftime as he's

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Speaker 3: I love the way he ran the ball.

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Speaker 4: In those two runs he made were huge, but it

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Speaker 5: He took opportunities to run the ball and it worked

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Speaker 7: And so when did they vote for the m v P,

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, look, look who's look who's on top? Now?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we talk about Dak, We talked about Lamar, and

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Speaker 2: But they kept on talking about mystery I relevant.

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Speaker 3: So okay, let's take a vote right now, who's the

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Speaker 2: That's easy call. Who I vote for?

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Speaker 7: That's why I say party, because you know you have

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Speaker 4: And the look what Mahomes did with nothing.

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Speaker 3: We just want you an example of why they base

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Speaker 4: So does that mean that these other coaches there on

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Speaker 7: Now, but you got Campbell's on the hot harball?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what about when's that harball guy?

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Speaker 4: Do they need money back from from Lamar Jackson's contract?

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Speaker 4: Did they regret it because.

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Speaker 2: He looked clueless over there?

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Speaker 4: He didn't look clueless, And that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 5: Confused out there like he was looking for somebody to

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Speaker 4: That's why I didn't pick Baltimore. I just I didn't

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Speaker 2: No, well, I didn't trust the entire offense.

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Speaker 4: Especially if you stop him from running right right.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I mean. It's a limited game plan,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, take off the yeah, and he was taking instead.

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Speaker 3: What was it when you get out in that neighborhood

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that was.

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Speaker 3: And I can't remember what the down and distance was,

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Speaker 2: You're in the old He kept making moves and faking and.

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Speaker 3: But that's where that's where uh, Mickey's cousin did a

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Speaker 2: Confused on that play well.

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Speaker 4: And here's the other problem with their offense. They ran

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Speaker 3: You like that Kansas City cornerback McDuffie.

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Speaker 4: He's pretty darn good.

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Speaker 2: I like h number thirty eight Sneez.

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Speaker 7: Who knocked the ball out, was making plays all season

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Speaker 7: long for them. He's helped them defensively, keep everything intact

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Speaker 4: Trying to get so you think Za Flowers learn some

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Speaker 5: I think, I think he has a lot of learning to.

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Speaker 4: Do, and then stand over the guy and then two

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Speaker 5: Like That's what I kept like thinking. I was like,

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Speaker 7: Well, they didn't control any of it during the season

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think everyone was saying, Gosh, look at

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Speaker 5: And then when it wasn't working out for him, you

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Speaker 3: You think, like Pete Carroll, Steve Spagnolo has a eye

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Speaker 4: Flowers also learned that when you take your gloves off

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Speaker 3: I go down.

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Speaker 4: He didn't cut his hand. He had gloves on. That

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Speaker 7: And so when you're dealing with an organization that this year,

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Speaker 4: I was afraid that Detroit was ahead because I've seen

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Speaker 7: I never felt comfortable if I'm as a because I

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go around the horn. One of the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys learn from Sunday the four participants in the championship

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Speaker 3: games on Sunday, and the answer my answer to the

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Speaker 3: question isn't even an answer to the question. I post

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Speaker 3: the question wrong for my answer. So I'll let you

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Speaker 3: all go first, and then I will correct. So I'll

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Speaker 3: chime in with just my observation. It's more like an

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Speaker 3: observation from the games on Sunday and how they apply

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Speaker 3: to the Cowboys. Have ever seen you want to go first?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I think with me, And it's something that SPACs just

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Speaker 7: brought up, and I said it all year long. I

466
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Speaker 7: don't really care much about numbers and things of that nature.

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Speaker 7: And this era of football, you know, you can have

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Speaker 7: numbers all you want, but you just got to make

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Speaker 7: the plays when it's time to make the plays. And

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Speaker 7: I do a lot of ego stroking when I get

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Speaker 7: on the treadmill or whatever. I always watched the old

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Speaker 7: games that we played, and I do try and mentally

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Speaker 7: compare them to what we did back then versus what

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Speaker 7: we did now. Back then, in nineteen eighties nineteen nineties,

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Speaker 7: we romanticized it so much, you know, about how we

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Speaker 7: played and how we won.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes we won so ugly.

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Speaker 7: I'm talking about eighties and nineties, I mean just ugly games, and.

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Speaker 2: We lost to some people we never should have lost to.

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Speaker 7: But when it was time to step up and play

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Speaker 7: in December, after Thanksgiving and in the playoffs, most times

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Speaker 7: we did that. And I'm talking about whether it was

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Speaker 7: me with the Cowboys or with the Giants, those teams

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Speaker 7: knew how to elevate themselves when it was time. I

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Speaker 7: remember some thirteen ten games that were exciting, damn games,

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Speaker 7: and the Cowboys pulled it out because of some heroics

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Speaker 7: in the nineties, especially by Emmi Smith or someone like that.

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Speaker 2: I think we get so.

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Speaker 7: Caught up in numbers and how pretty the score looks

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Speaker 7: when it's got all these high numbers up there. I

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Speaker 7: think we need to go back to where we were

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Speaker 7: and let the defense control the games for us.

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Speaker 2: It's okay to score a lot of points, but.

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Speaker 7: In games where the real boys come to town and

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Speaker 7: the games where the tough teams come to town, you

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Speaker 7: gotta be able to play. When I say down to

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Speaker 7: the level, I mean play is low down, dirty as

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Speaker 7: you have to to win a ball game. So to me,

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Speaker 7: once again, it's all about when you make the plays.

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Speaker 7: Not how many plays you make.

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Speaker 4: So you want to like screw with the kicker before

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Speaker 4: the game and move its t throw it.

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Speaker 3: In the end. Ze perspective on Justin Tucker and why

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Speaker 3: he was at that end of the field and the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs were at that end of the field, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think you took it that far.

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Speaker 3: Well, he was stretching or something, wasn't he he was

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Speaker 3: just the video I saw he was. He was down

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Speaker 3: stretching and he had his helmet off whatever it was,

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Speaker 3: and Kelsey came over and grabbed his helmet and his

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Speaker 3: footballs and threw him or whatever whatever it was.

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Speaker 12: And the side I think, but that's one of those

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Speaker 12: things where, okay, if we need to, we need a

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Speaker 12: broader perspective on who is that wrong here?

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Speaker 3: Who was there first? And who's supposed to be at

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Speaker 3: that end of the field.

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Speaker 4: You know, the kicker warms up and that's what happened

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Speaker 4: last year in the playoff game in San Francisco midfield

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Speaker 4: do whatnot?

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Speaker 3: Was that closer to midfield though?

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Speaker 4: Well, he was probably trying to tempt from about forty.

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Speaker 3: Yards because this one looked like it was down near

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Speaker 3: the goal.

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Speaker 4: This was at the goal? Yeah, right, but last time he.

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Speaker 3: Was way on the either the chiefs end of the

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Speaker 3: field of the chiefs.

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Speaker 4: But around they trade sides, and you know it's just

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Speaker 4: the kicker. He's not and then anybody's way is.

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Speaker 2: Just being a jerk.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 2: That's how that is. Man.

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Speaker 7: You can tell he starts firing people out.

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Speaker 4: The needed big dom out there to take care of

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Speaker 4: that stuff.

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Speaker 3: But when I first heard about it, without seeing the video,

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Speaker 3: I thought that there was they get he got in

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Speaker 3: his face or whatever. But the way Kelsey did it,

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Speaker 3: he just grabbed it and threw it over to the

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Speaker 3: side or whatever I thought it was. That was the

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Speaker 3: way to do it.

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Speaker 4: Now, here's what you do, because this is what San

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Speaker 4: Francisco did. They just stood right in front of mar

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Speaker 4: and they couldn't kick the ball, were just standing in

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Speaker 4: his way.

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Speaker 3: But that was confrontational. Yes, this one was.

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Speaker 7: Just and you could imagine what some of the kickers

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Speaker 7: were done back in the day.

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Speaker 2: They would kick the freaking ball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I want to stand there.

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Speaker 7: I can see Chicago Bears kicker Butler butt head they

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Speaker 7: called it. I can see butt head. He kicked the ball. Hey,

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Speaker 7: that's they called him. I didn't call it.

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Speaker 3: That's what they call Can's City's kicker.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Butker, Okay, that's Harrison, Butker's Yeah, we just we just

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Speaker 3: called him that.

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Speaker 5: All right, all right, Savannah Europe, Yes, all right, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Back on this season and then watching some of the

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Speaker 5: games yesterday, I really did love seeing how San Francisco

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Speaker 5: was able to come back when they were playing from behind,

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Speaker 5: and their ability to make big plays that were meaningful

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Speaker 5: and actually get them somewhere. I think was one of

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Speaker 5: the biggest takeaways. And when you think about games that

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Speaker 5: we played just this season that we lost to big opponents,

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Speaker 5: when we lost to San Francisco and we just could

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Speaker 5: not fight, and then when we lost to Miami. Yes

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Speaker 5: it came down kind of to the end there, but

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Speaker 5: still things like that. And then against Buffalo, I really recognized,

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Speaker 5: like we already mentioned, the running back situation. You saw

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Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey, you saw the ability for him to make

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Speaker 5: huge runs, huge plays. You see brock Party.

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Speaker 3: Running the ball.

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Speaker 5: I think that there was just a lot of inconsistencies

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Speaker 5: in some of our really big games when it came

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Speaker 5: to rushing and the.

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Speaker 7: Ability games, like you said, the big games was against

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Speaker 7: a tough opponent.

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Speaker 5: Exactly exactly, and you look at all these other teams

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Speaker 5: that have a really stacked group of running backs, and

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Speaker 5: you see how the how well they're doing. Look at

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Speaker 5: Pacheco and look at how Edwards, Hilaire and Holmes. They

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Speaker 5: all know how to run the ball, and I think

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys need to do a better job at that.

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Speaker 5: And I think going first round with the running back

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Speaker 5: is actually a great idea.

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Speaker 4: Running the linebackers. Don't don't steal mine. Don't go out

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Speaker 4: there and try to finesse the linebacker positions, especially when

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Speaker 4: teams go heavy and they're playing a full back the

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Speaker 4: way San Francisco plays a full back or go two

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Speaker 4: tight ends as much as some of those teams did,

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Speaker 4: and be out there with six defensive backs that are

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Speaker 4: masquerading as linebackers. You got to have linebackers out there

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Speaker 4: making plays. And don't get caught short handed just because

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Speaker 4: your third round draft choice got injured in training camp

595
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Speaker 4: and you kind of threw your hands up and go, well, oh, well,

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Speaker 4: what happens if you get an injury and don't get

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Speaker 4: shorthanded at cornerback, especially in the playoff game when you've

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Speaker 4: got to play a guy with a harness on his shoulder,

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Speaker 4: that you don't want to be in single coverage and

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Speaker 4: start playing zone defense. That they had no idea what

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Speaker 4: they were.

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Speaker 3: Doing, and a lot of to your point with Marquise Bell, everyone,

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Speaker 3: we've been applauding him all season for he had one

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Speaker 3: of the best season him best seasons of player. But

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Speaker 3: there's something to be said for having played linebacker your

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Speaker 3: whole life, you know, and being able to read and react,

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Speaker 3: you know, to dissect your instincts exactly, and and Marquise

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Speaker 3: Bell will have that, okay, but there were so.

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Speaker 2: Many kids a linebacker. I wanted to have that as

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Speaker 2: a defensive pack, right.

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Speaker 3: And because there are occasions that he will be lined

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Speaker 3: up in the box and just like you saw with

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Speaker 3: the teams yesterday, but they always have at least two

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Speaker 3: linebackers on the field.

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Speaker 2: I think with me, it's.

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Speaker 7: You got you have to know that this is where

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Speaker 7: the game is going now, this is what has beaten you.

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Speaker 7: We weren't able to make those big plays in the

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Speaker 7: big games that she was talking about because.

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Speaker 2: We were whipped. You know, we want tough enough up front.

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Speaker 2: That's just the way it is.

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Speaker 7: And I'm not talking about just offensively defensively.

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Speaker 2: We went tough enough up.

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Speaker 7: Front, and we were wishing our way through each game.

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Speaker 7: You know, we were talking about it and here like, man,

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Speaker 7: we got just sixty b's, sevent dy b's that running

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Speaker 7: all of us. And thank god we even stayed in

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Speaker 7: the Dolphins game, that was one of the better games.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't have put that in the big game because

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Speaker 7: we actually played well in the end.

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Speaker 2: But those other games.

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Speaker 7: The Buffalo game, you know, we have to get those

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Speaker 7: out of our system. They cannot happen with a good team.

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Speaker 7: You got to go in there and show you got

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Speaker 7: something down there. You can't just go in and say, oh, well, guys,

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Speaker 7: you know, and you look soft as a team and

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Speaker 7: therefore your reputation. Ron Springs used to say all the

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Speaker 7: time because we did business together. He said, your rep

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Speaker 7: is all you got, and that's on the real Your rep.

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Speaker 2: Is all you got. You know.

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Speaker 7: So if you come in there and they think that

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Speaker 7: you're a certain way, that's how they're gonna play you,

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Speaker 7: and they will always look at you that way.

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Speaker 4: One of the tough decisions they're going to have to

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Speaker 4: make is can Mozzy Smith play better? Make that second

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Speaker 4: year jump? Or did we make a mistake with a

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Speaker 4: first round pick, because if you're relying on him to

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Speaker 4: get in there and provide some bulk in the middle,

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Speaker 4: you better be right because if not, you saw what

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Speaker 4: happened when Hankins wasn't in there, by the way, and

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Speaker 4: he's getting older, and he's an unrestricted free agent, by

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Speaker 4: the way. So that's one of the decisions they're going

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Speaker 4: to have to make, along with what the running back

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Speaker 4: position that we pointed out with both guys unrestricted, how

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Speaker 4: do you restock that running back position, resigning what you

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Speaker 4: have free agent draft Those are kind of some of

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Speaker 4: the big decisions they're going to have to make, and Bill,

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Speaker 4: I'll let you have the.

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Speaker 3: Floor on mine is more of a positive one, okay,

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Speaker 3: you negative nancies those tight ends. Look at those tight

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Speaker 3: ends that played yesterday. Yes, the Niners with George Kittle,

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs with Travis Kelcey. Mark Andrews was back for

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Speaker 3: the Ravens. But even when Andrews was out since November,

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Likely and then the young the rookie with the

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Speaker 3: Lion Sam Laporta, and the Cowboys have to feel really

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Speaker 3: good about what they have at the tight end position

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Speaker 3: with Jake Ferguson, because I think Jake Ferguson fits in,

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Speaker 3: fits in with the He's a younger, he's there, he is,

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Speaker 3: He's right there with Laporta. He's one year more experienced

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Speaker 3: than Laporta, and he is, assuming he stays injury free. Uh,

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Speaker 3: he's going to have a career that rivals what those

672
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: other guys are doing.

673
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: Well, if you need to know what the NFL thinks

674
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: of Jake Ferguson, who's going I can't play in the

675
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl?

676
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: Two of them Kittle ed Kelsey.

677
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 4: So Ferguson's going to replace the NFC. Yes, I hear

678
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: he's going to replace him. He was that, he was close.

679
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: He deserves it, So you're right, he's going to do

680
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: what in Orlando, he's going to do what.

681
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 4: He's going to replace Kittle on the NFC.

682
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: So what do they do.

683
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 4: They're going to play flag football, Flag doesn't matter.

684
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 13: The wars.

685
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: I'm surprised they're they're adding Did they add players to

686
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl team as often back in your day

687
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: ever since? Do you recall that they did?

688
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: No, not a lot, but there were a lot of

689
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 4: it for the injury reasons or but.

690
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 7: Nobody held out nobody like, hey, I'm not going. It

691
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 7: was it was Hawaii. Everyone wanted to go.

692
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: To the Hawai Yeah.

693
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even back then. But plus I got some

694
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: money for it.

695
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: Chump change. It wasn't chump change.

696
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: If you make twenty thousand dollars a.

697
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 4: Year, yeah, but you had to pay for your family

698
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 4: to come with you.

699
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: Years I was making twenty thousands.

700
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Speaker 3: I thought that was your bonus.

701
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: My bonus was more than twenty thousand.

702
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: Come on, man, So when remind me when the Pro

703
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 4: Bowl was played?

704
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: Back then, it was after the season, so it.

705
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: Was after the Super Bowl, right.

706
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 7: Yes, it was a week after the Super Bowl, right,

707
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 7: and the teams that won the Super Bowl. I remember

708
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 7: the Niner guys coming in after the game. They can't

709
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 7: we went practice already. They would come in later.

710
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was like that in the nineties too, right.

711
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 4: Well, I remember when the nineties.

712
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Speaker 7: The nineties and when it got when it started to

713
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 7: was going now only because during the eighties when I

714
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 7: was there, that's when you can tell people like, hey man,

715
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 7: I'm not going to go out here and bust my

716
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 7: head open in this game. And I haven't been practicing

717
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 7: since for mid December. Yeah, you know, and now you

718
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 7: want Chuck Munsey to come out there, who's usually two

719
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 7: thirty five when he plays me, he walks around at

720
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 7: two sixty. Now you want me to come out here

721
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 7: and try and make a thirty and three, you know.

722
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 7: So it started to get to that point nobody really

723
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 7: wanted to go out there.

724
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: And especially they've been drinking beer.

725
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, the playoff teams we were still you know,

726
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 7: in shape because.

727
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: We had just finished playing.

728
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 7: But if you talk about guys that didn't make the playoffs, yeah,

729
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 7: and then that coming in here, you talk about.

730
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 3: Their season was over at Christmas.

731
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Speaker 11: It's a rough game.

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Speaker 4: So they were still playing it after the Super Bowl

733
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 4: for sure in ninety three because I remember Troy was

734
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 4: supposed to fly to Hawaii after the Super Bowl and

735
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: he ended up bowing out and he went to doctor

736
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: Andrews in Birmingham to do some check ups on of

737
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: course that but it was that were in the Super Bowl. Yes,

738
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 4: but now you replace those guys with.

739
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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I wanted to go.

740
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: You don't need to replace them for like football.

741
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: But if you're the guy defensive line.

742
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: But what their.

743
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame resumes, what it does is to let

744
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 4: you know that what other people thought, who was next

745
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 4: in line?

746
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 2: But we never we never had to go that deep.

747
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: We just did. People wanted to come and play and so.

748
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: But think how many more Pro Bowls you would have

749
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: made had there been the same number of people that

750
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: were not going yesterday.

751
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: I've been waiting.

752
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, pack it all right, we continue with more mixed

753
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Speaker 3: shots in just a moment.

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755
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756
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Speaker 11: served in the armed forces since the Civil War. Fewer

757
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 11: than four thousand have received the Medal of Honor. The

758
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Speaker 6: better with pepsi.

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Speaker 3: That's what I like.

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Speaker 4: To mixed shots.

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Speaker 5: The ninety ninth annual East West Shrine Bowl will feature

790
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Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty of the nation's top NFL draft

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Speaker 5: prospects on Thursday, February first at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 5: Tickets as low as twenty dollars are available at Shrine

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Speaker 3: Right, very good and in fact practice going on this

795
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: morning here at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco.

796
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: The East squad was there this morning working out, and

797
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: the West squad later and that game on the Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: And a face on the field, not a face in

799
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Speaker 3: the crowd, but a face on the field was one

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00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn here back home today. Oh yeah, well it

801
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: remained is home. It's the question this.

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Speaker 5: Week were they outside or were they indoors?

803
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Speaker 3: Indoor? Indoors?

804
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 4: Okay, we should go as a team. You're going to

805
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: get a suite for the game.

806
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: Do you afford it? Making I don't think there's any

807
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: sweets up there.

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00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: Can we take one of the coaches booths like we

809
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 4: watch practice there, bring some binocular so Dan was supposed

810
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: to by the way, since you brought it up. He's

811
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 4: supposed to.

812
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: Fly, That's why I brought it up.

813
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: He was trying to sneak that in there.

814
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: So what happened?

815
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: Dan Quinn was in Seattle the end of last week.

816
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: That link is on Thursday interview there at his second

817
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: interview is in person interview there and he is headed

818
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: to Washington, d C. And reportedly to interview for the

819
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: commander's head coaching job tomorrow. And they've other reported candidates

820
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 3: that they have include Ben Johnson, the Lions offensive coordinator,

821
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald the Ravens defensive coordinator. Uh so they got that,

822
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn, the Lions defensive coordinator. And those seasons are over,

823
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: and so the commanders are going to have a head

824
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: coach here pretty soon.

825
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 4: And Bobby Slowick offensive coordinat So who are which is

826
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 4: Bob Slowick's son?

827
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 2: Who are we interviewing?

828
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 4: Well you got nothing nobody yet.

829
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 7: Well, I mean he's going around taking interview as you said, Quinn.

830
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: Well but what if he doesn't get a higher question? Well,

831
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: they better have a list right now.

832
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: Who do you? Have you heard anything that we're looking at?

833
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 3: And there's there are I've got an I have a

834
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 3: thought a thought on one. Uh, It's been reported out

835
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: there that the Cowboys might be interested in the former

836
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 3: head coach of the Commanders, Ron Rivera. I have a

837
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: thought that there's a former head coach of the Minnesota

838
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 3: Vikings that I would be interested in. That would be

839
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Speaker 3: Mike Zimmer. What do you think of that?

840
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 4: I like, no problems with it whatsoever either one. Actually,

841
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 4: I don't need a first time just like I didn't

842
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 4: want a first time head coach if they moved on

843
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 4: from McCarthy, I don't want to. I don't need a

844
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: first time defensive coordinator at this point, especially with the offensive.

845
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 4: I mean with the head coach on his final year

846
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 4: of his contract. The one thing I've noticed with some

847
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 4: of these talks going on, like the thing in Seattle,

848
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: they want to talk to Ben Johnson, the Detroit offensive,

849
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 4: and they want to talk to Mike McDonald. And that's

850
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Speaker 4: why they haven't made a decision yet because they couldn't

851
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 4: talk to them. Now that they've lost, they can talk

852
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: to them this week. So see, here's the other deal

853
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 4: with this. You just mentioned all the different people Washington

854
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 4: wants to talk to. So you fire your head coach

855
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 4: not knowing what you're going to do well, what if

856
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 4: you end up with worse?

857
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: If you could bring the head coach back in for

858
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 3: an interview, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Right, Just like by the way, I think that made

860
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 4: a mistake.

861
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: George George Steinbrener did that with Billy Martin all the time.

862
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: I mean, you should have a list of what you

863
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 4: want and you don't go out there just fishing right.

864
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 4: You know what, It reminds me that you said that.

865
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: Charlie Waters tells the story that for the final cut

866
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Speaker 4: his rookie year, Uh, coach Myers came. He was the

867
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: he was the the guy that came in and told everybody,

868
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 4: you're cut right, uh.

869
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: And the Myers he was too happy to do it.

870
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Speaker 4: He was what did they I forgot what was the name?

871
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 4: What was the name they gave that guy? Not the

872
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 4: hatchet man?

873
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 7: No, I can't, but thank god I didn't have to

874
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 7: know what his name was.

875
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 4: Anyway, he calls he calls Charlie in and says, you know,

876
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: we're sorry you didn't make the team, right, And Charlie's like,

877
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: what am I doing with my life now? I didn't

878
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 4: make it? And it goes on for a couple of

879
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: hours and he gets a phone call and coach Myer says, uh,

880
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 4: Charlie scratched that we made a mistake. It wasn't you that.

881
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 14: Was getting killed someone else, Yeah, Charlie, And I think

882
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 14: Charlie like started cussing, like son, don't talk to me

883
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 14: like that.

884
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: So in the past the has been the name.

885
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 4: That's what I was sorry.

886
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: I didn't know it would apply to appropriate.

887
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: To Yeah, the sorry. We didn't mean to tell you

888
00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: you were cut.

889
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: Speaking of coaching moves, you know who the happiest person

890
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 3: in the room is, don't you, Savannah.

891
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 5: I was going to bring this up the guys first.

892
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 5: I was going to bring up did we all see

893
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 5: that Kellen Moore is going to the Eagles?

894
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 3: Yes?

895
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: I was going to get to that.

896
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: I was going to get to that. I thought, more

897
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: importantly for you, we ought to talk about Jim.

898
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 5: Jim coming in to coach the Chargers. Actually was so

899
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 5: happy with that move. Family's really happy with it. And

900
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: then I honestly think now that he is there, you

901
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 5: have to look at Justin Herbert a little bit more seriously.

902
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 5: He's going to really coach that guy up. So I'm excited.

903
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 4: I wonder who they bring in is their offensive coordinator.

904
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: He's got to be good because he's got a good quarterback.

905
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 4: Because he's talking about bringing his defensive coordinator with him.

906
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's bringing in the defensive coordinators I heard,

907
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 5: but offensive, yeah, it's questionable.

908
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 4: And there was two other guys. Names came up for

909
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: his defensive coordinator, Greg Roman's still out there way and

910
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 4: then somebody named Tanner Engstrand the Lions pass game coordinator.

911
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: Okay, they were.

912
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 4: Thinking of maybe he would be brought in, but I

913
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 4: think he was bringing in his defensive coordinator from Michigan.

914
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 3: So in that AFC West, now you've got Andy Reid,

915
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: you've got Sean Payton, and you've got Jim Harbaugh along

916
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 3: with Antonio Pierce with the Raiders. So it's fun.

917
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 5: That's fun.

918
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 3: So are you confident now that the Chargers are going

919
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: to supplant the Chiefs as the team to beat the

920
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: AFC West because Jim Harbaugh is there?

921
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 5: Yes, you guys will wait and see next season. We'll

922
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 5: come full back to this.

923
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: Conversation writing it down right now. The Chargers are on

924
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 4: the come up.

925
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, all right, okay, okay, So Kellen Moore to

926
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: the Eagles, what do we make of this.

927
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 5: I think it's a little wild, pretty wild.

928
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: That means they're going to throw the ball more.

929
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: It's just good.

930
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: The Calgary is going to be happy with that.

931
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts, Jalen Hurt. He goes from Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts.

932
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 3: I'll say this, He's going to run the ball more

933
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 3: than what he did here because Jalen Hurts will run

934
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: the healthy Jalen Hurts will run the ball more.

935
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 7: Run my quarterback as often, I think Jalen I think

936
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 7: he will make Jalen throw more.

937
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 3: So you think that may be one of the reasons plays.

938
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: You think that may be one of the reasons that

939
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: they decided on Kellen Moore is that he's more pass happy.

940
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 7: You saw what happened with Hurts at the end of

941
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 7: the season, the mid seasons. He's hurt all the time,

942
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 7: and that's just not the way you want to use

943
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 7: your quarterback. You don't want your quarterback to be a

944
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 7: running back. And they have enough good running plays and

945
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 7: a couple of good running backs back there that are

946
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 7: sufficient enough to where if you throw the ball enough,

947
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 7: then Jalen Hurts can control the ball game. But it's

948
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 7: got to be an entirely different system, because everyone seemed

949
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 7: to figure him out this year.

950
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 4: Maybe I should point out that in twenty nineteen, when

951
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 4: he took over as the Cowboys offensive coordinator, that Ezekiel

952
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 4: Elliott ran the ball three hundred and one times. So

953
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 4: this notion that all they did was the Cowboys threw

954
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: the ball is pretty false because when they ran it,

955
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 4: Zeke was running the ball more than two hundred times

956
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: a season. And if you look at twenty twenty one,

957
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 4: Zeke ran the ball two hundred and thirty seven times

958
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 4: and Pollard ran it one hundred and thirty times. And

959
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 4: last year, when Pollard led the team with one thousand

960
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 4: and seven rushing yards, Zeke still ran the ball for

961
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty one yards for eight seventy six.

962
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 4: So there's this notion out there that all they did

963
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 4: was throw the ball, and that's just not accurate about

964
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 4: Kellen Moore. I just think he got a bad rap here.

965
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: So I wonder if Doug Nussmeyer is going to Philly

966
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 3: two to be the quarterbacks.

967
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: Coach coach too.

968
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 3: Yes, Alex Tanney was a quarterback, that's right, and they

969
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: he is free to move on. So there and nuss

970
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: Meyer was with more with the Chargers.

971
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 4: Now with Siriani. What But wasn't he but an offensive guy?

972
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 1: Yes, he's the offensive guy, so maybe he So that's

973
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: the more the more critical thing I think for.

974
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts is who's the quarterback coach?

975
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 4: Right right?

976
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens there

977
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: and he's.

978
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: Just gonna be.

979
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so, mm hmm, like the quarterbacks

980
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: coach here. He could he could do both, but you

981
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: want someone who, especially with a quarterback like Hurts and

982
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 3: like a quarterback with Dak, you wanted someone who is

983
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: total yeah, and on mechanics and so forth.

984
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 4: So and I think somewhat this year McCarthy was part

985
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: of that and is coaching the quarterbacks. If you noticed

986
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: when they did their quarterback deal before practice that he

987
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 4: wasn't out there with the rest of the team. He

988
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 4: was in there with the quarterbacks. So yeah, he had

989
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: a heavy hand in doing the quarterbacks here. And I

990
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 4: do think quarterback coaches do make a difference, especially with

991
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 4: young guys that don't know everything yet. Right. So, yeah,

992
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 4: but that's a that's an interesting choice, isn't it. So

993
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: somebody thought a lot of Kellen Moore.

994
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

995
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: It's kind of close to home, close to home.

996
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, juicy.

997
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 4: Now you're going to say twice.

998
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: It's one thing. It's one thing when he's with the

999
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: Chargers and you're just facing somewhere. Now, when you're your

1000
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: chief rival in the division and you're going head to

1001
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 3: head with him twice, it's a different story. Now intriguing.

1002
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: I saw somebody report that, uh, some two teams requested

1003
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 4: permission to talk to Aiden Derney as the defensive coordinator

1004
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: who the Cowboys defensive line coach.

1005
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't even know his name.

1006
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 4: He's the guy that got started as part of the.

1007
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 3: It's the international international program they had for coaches. It's

1008
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 3: a green bay. The Rams and Atlanta have sought permission

1009
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 3: to speak to Cowboys defensive line coach add and Dirty,

1010
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 3: per multiple sources. According to Todd Archer two days ago, Okay,

1011
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 3: I thought, would you like to know more about Dirty's

1012
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: football journey?

1013
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: Yes.

1014
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 3: Having grown up in London, he played in NFL Europe

1015
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 3: before joining practice squads in Carolina and Kansas City. He

1016
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: helped train players like f a Obata remember him when

1017
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: he passed through here through NFL UK. He was the

1018
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 3: d C for the London Warriors. There's some background on

1019
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: Dirty highly respected as obviously as three teams now want

1020
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: to talk to him.

1021
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was a guy that Quinn wanted to

1022
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 4: bring along with him.

1023
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 7: Well, the thing that I see about the the different

1024
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 7: defenses this year that up successful. They're all successful with

1025
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 7: a lot of pressure upfront from their first from their

1026
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 7: front four, And to me, I think that really if

1027
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 7: we could have a system like that where it takes

1028
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 7: a lot of pressure off the guys in the back seven,

1029
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 7: you know, that's something that we've got to really take

1030
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 7: a look at because right now, our linebackers I put

1031
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 7: them air quotes, they need to be able to see

1032
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 7: better and right. And when you see the Cowboys don't

1033
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 7: play well, it's because they are being attacked by these

1034
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 7: big offensive linemen downfield and they're coming underbated. So to me,

1035
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 7: you've got to put some linemen there that are going

1036
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 7: to hold these guys up starts up front, upfront.

1037
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be one in the trenches.

1038
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 7: I like our linebackers, I do, but you need to

1039
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 7: have a team that has that DeMarcus launch mentality to

1040
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 7: where you go I'm gonna make this play myself.

1041
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: And I don't mean coming out of this, going out

1042
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: of the scheme of the.

1043
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 7: Defense, but being able to just control your area to

1044
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 7: where it doesn't spill off to the rest of the team.

1045
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: And we just didn't do.

1046
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 3: It when you're not pin in your ear bags going

1047
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 3: after the quarterback.

1048
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 4: And this might be too obvious of a question, but

1049
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 4: how many cowboy A defensive linemen finished in their top

1050
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 4: ten of total tackles? Got a guess?

1051
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: None?

1052
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: Are you considering Parsons to be a defensive lineman?

1053
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 4: I don't consider him.

1054
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: Oh what is?

1055
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 3: He is? An edge rusher?

1056
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: As an edge rusher, so is that a defensive right

1057
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: la And now.

1058
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 4: Once again Lawrence. Lawrence finished with fifty seven tackles. Parsons

1059
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 4: finished ninth with fifty six. Okay, so what you were saying,

1060
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 4: they didn't get a lot of production. Now osa Uh

1061
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 4: was eleventh with fifty three, which tied Jordan Lewis, but

1062
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 4: he only had twenty four solo tackles, So you have

1063
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 4: to go down to number thirteen. Dorance Armstrong with thirty

1064
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 4: three and he finished second with seven and a half

1065
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 4: sacks to Parsons right fourteen he's an unrestricted free agent.

1066
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: That's a that kid there.

1067
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 7: That's pretty good numbers there, and considering he didn't really

1068
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 7: get too much.

1069
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 4: And his percentage of plays went down.

1070
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 5: His snapcot last year.

1071
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 3: Who are you talking?

1072
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, from last year to this year. It because

1073
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 4: they probably played Parsons more at defensive end.

1074
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 7: And that's another issue when the new well, I'm sorry,

1075
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 7: I'm not, I'm not I fired the man already, but.

1076
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: Defensive so.

1077
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 7: Sorry, yeah, we are so sorry. Well, I think what

1078
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 7: we have to look at is what the hell are

1079
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 7: we gonna do with Parsons? I mean, we need to

1080
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 7: define what he's doing. We're not doing ourselves in favor

1081
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 7: by I guess, trying to trick the opposition.

1082
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 2: We're tricking ourselves. We don't know.

1083
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 5: Where he's supposed to be supposed.

1084
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: We can't answer that question until next week. You're on

1085
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: mixed shots, okay, because next week we will know who.

1086
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: We will know whether or not the defensive coordinator is

1087
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 3: returning or not. Right, we'll know this week whether dan

1088
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: Quinn is headed or coming.

1089
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 4: We should know that and.

1090
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 7: So it should be defined. I think going forward may

1091
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 7: be defined, what is his position?

1092
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: It may make a difference to the defensive coordinator is.

1093
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 7: If they will start there, we could you know, if

1094
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 7: he's a linebacker, then that means that we just need

1095
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 7: one more linebacker, right, I mean as far as starting,

1096
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 7: you know, but then you have to have another edge rusher.

1097
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 7: So yeah, we have to figure this out who and

1098
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 7: it goes to who we want to draft or who

1099
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 7: we want to sign.

1100
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 4: And if you think about it, when you stock your

1101
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 4: linebacker position, you use we have we can see it

1102
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 4: five or six linebackers, right, because you need linebackers to

1103
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 4: play special teams. Right. Yeah, Well they had one after

1104
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 4: Van der rsh got hurt. It was Clark. They used

1105
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 4: the elevations on Jefferson.

1106
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 3: Uh, what do you got? Fifty years ago today, the

1107
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 3: Cowboys drafted out of Tennessee State one Ed and this

1108
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 3: is the picture on draft to him getting the phone.

1109
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 2: Call shirt at look at the hand.

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Speaker 3: Was tweeted out by the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Fifty years ago today, the Cowboys made history by selecting

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Speaker 3: ed two Tall Jones first overall in the NFL draft.

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Speaker 3: At Mark, the first and still only time from an

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Speaker 3: HBCU was taken with the number one pick. Congratulations had

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Speaker 3: two tall Jones. You know how the Cowboys got that

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Speaker 3: draft pick?

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Speaker 4: Oh, go ahead, and I knew.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're so smart. Tell us.

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Speaker 4: They had some inside intel that he was eligible for

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Speaker 4: the draft. Everybody else thought that he wasn't eligible. He

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Speaker 4: had to play one more year.

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Speaker 3: How did they acquire the pick? Oh?

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Speaker 4: How did they acquire the pick?

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Speaker 3: They made a trade with the Houston Oilers, and they

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Speaker 3: traded a wide receiver named Billy Parks and a defensive

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Speaker 3: end named Tody Smith to the Houston Oilers, and they

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Speaker 3: acquired the number one overall pick from the Oilers they

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Speaker 3: took to Jones. That's and I have a great fondness

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Speaker 3: for Billy Parks because you know why I have a

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Speaker 3: great fondness for Billy Parks because over the weekend, my

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Speaker 3: daughter gave birth to my fifth grandson, dang and the

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Speaker 3: name the name William Parks Griffith watch I'm going to

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Speaker 3: call him, of course, No, not at all. No, My

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Speaker 3: name is William, My dad's name is William, my father

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Speaker 3: in law's name is William, my brother in law's name

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Speaker 3: is William, and so there and then on my son

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Speaker 3: in law's side of the family, Parks is a family

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Speaker 3: name he's going to be called Parks, but he's I'm

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Speaker 3: going to call him Billy Parks of the Cowboys wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Billy Parks. I've got a basketball team now, five grandsons.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Billy. So when somebody yells, hey, Billy, come here

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Speaker 4: for people, that's right.

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Speaker 2: So that's all right.

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Speaker 3: So hopefully Billy Parks Griffith comes home from the hospital today.

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a it's a deep story on how

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Speaker 4: they got to Jones.

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Speaker 3: So you know, always got something.

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Speaker 4: So the draft was this was this early.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to have it. They used to have

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Speaker 3: it like in December. It was like at the end

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Speaker 3: of the round.

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Speaker 4: It used to be in November. Okay, November before the

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Speaker 4: season ended. That's why the Cowboys didn't have a draft

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Speaker 4: their first year because the draft for nineteen sixty was

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Speaker 4: already done in November of fifty nine during the season.

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Speaker 4: So now you know the rest and you only get

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Speaker 4: that here on Mix Shots.

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Speaker 2: By the way, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, that does it for this edition of Mixed Shots.

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Speaker 3: And who knows who the Cowboys defensive coordinator will be

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Speaker 3: when we reconvene next Monday.

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Speaker 2: Elen go Cowboys.

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