WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 060422 Do Police Actually Help Prevent Crime? (Part 2) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:00.760 And now. 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:10.039 Watching my mic back like that, we just strike waters 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:11.719 from headquarters behind him. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.080 And if you're just tuning in the civic cipher, I'm 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:16.040 your host Rams's job. 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:18.160 I go by the name q Ward. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:21.560 But reminding everybody again that today I am more specifically 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:23.760 Grayson and I Coho's father. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.600 Indeed, be sure to stick around. We still have more 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:34.440 UH to bring you. We're going to be discussing what 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:38.599 public safety means. Really, this is a conversation we've had 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:46.159 on this show before, but something happened recently that I 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.319 think you is going to bring to life for us, 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.040 and we're going to have a conversation about that because 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.120 I think all of us have grown up in a 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.720 world where we it's one way and that's the way 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.160 we know it, and we haven't taken the time to 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.600 re imagine what that could look like. So stick around 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.400 for that. We're also gonna discuss Memorial Day, despite being 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:12.120 a bit past Memorial Day, but we didn't want to 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:13.920 forget about it all together, I mean just a little 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.119 late on it. But first let's discuss becoming a better 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:23.160 Ally Bobba. So this week the story comes from NBC Philadelphia. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:24.839 This was incredible by the way. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:34.240 Yeah, be like this guy, all right? The title you 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:39.639 speak English. Lyft driver kicks out writer over racist comment. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.840 A lift driver in the Lehigh Valley is getting worldwide 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.280 praise after video posted online shows and kicking out a 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:51.160 couple from his car Friday night. The driver said the 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.560 writers were making racist comments and now the Internet is reacting, 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.840 from block pages to donations. The incident happened Friday night, 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.480 so this would have been a few weeks ago. We 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.160 hadn't had a chance to get to it, so forgive me. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:10.400 Outside of Katasauqua Bar Fossil's last stand in Lehigh County, 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.040 the Boroughs Police Department confirmed they're investigating the incident. 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:13.839 Please say. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.760 The woman in the video, so there's video you can 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.760 check out, is Jackie Harford, who owns Fossils. The video, 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.400 just over a minute long, starts when Harford gets into 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.280 Bode's car. He asked if the ride is for Jackie, 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.160 and she confirms it is. You're a white guy, Harper 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.440 says as she gets into the car on the rear 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:36.040 passenger side. Boad asks, what's that? Are you like a 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.919 white guy? Ask Hartford, who was then making her way 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.440 to the center of the car. You're like a normal guy. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:46.040 Harford says, you speak English. There's a quick pause before 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:50.800 Harford laughs, Pat's Bode's shoulder and apologizes. Boad then tells 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.120 her to get out of the car, saying what Hartford 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.360 said was inappropriate. Quote if somebody was not white sitting 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.600 in the seat, what would be the difference, Boad asked. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:00.000 The car is a rear pass. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.639 Door are still open, but it repeats to a man 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.120 unidentified at this time standing outside the car that he 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:06.639 won't be taking this ride. 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.520 And the video goes on. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:14.840 They exchange some cusswords, and a lot of folks have 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:18.480 come up to support this lift driver, and a lot 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.760 of other folks have made it a point to leave 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:26.360 one star reviews on these people's business. And we loved it. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:27.960 We loved that video. We don't get a lot of 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:32.119 stuff like that around here. But that is our bah 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:32.960 blah for this week. 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:34.920 If you get a chance, google that story and watch 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.280 the video because in transcript it doesn't. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.280 Happen, it doesn't translate. Yeah, but if you see it, 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.280 you're like, Yeah, that's what you gotta do. You got 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:42.760 to stand up to that, You got to stomp it. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:43.200 Now. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:50.240 Rethinking public safety I definitely want to talk about this, 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.560 but you were having a conversation with me before. Just 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:58.760 to kind of piggyback off of that, Baba, I think 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:02.200 you were at an event recently where there were people 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:07.200 that were using some languages. Wasn't entirely appropriate. Tell a 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:10.080 little bit about that story and how folks can challenge 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:16.200 that type of behavior. I think we've gotten to a 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:20.160 place and this isn't something that's new, right. We just 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.080 sometimes sometimes and I mean we specifically ramps, and I 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:27.920 don't even mean everybody, We get let into spaces where 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:35.039 we're considered where we're considered special. If you've ever seen 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.560 the movie Django, you know what I mean. If you 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.559 haven't watched it, and the way that Leonardo DiCaprio uses 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.680 the word special will shine some light on what I mean. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.920 You are that one in ten thousand, bright boy. 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.520 Once upon a time, I used to work for an 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:54.080 alcohol and spirits company, I'll say that, and when going 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.839 to meetings with distributors and venue owners. 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.680 I had several people out to me. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:06.480 How much they enjoyed me, specifically my energy, the way 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:10.359 that I spoke, the way that I articulated myself, just 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.360 how nice and well spoken and kind and educated. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:20.120 I was. However, my crowd. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.000 Wasn't exactly what they were looking for was in the 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.200 crowd that they hoped to draw to their establishment. 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.359 We like u Q, we like you, we don't like 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:33.000 your people. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.159 And they would say that to me like that, like 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:40.039 they don't think they just said anything offensive at all. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:44.240 They even think they just paid me a compliment. So 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:47.799 sometimes I won't even say we're in mixed company. There's 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.760 spaces that Ramses and I are let into where we're 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.560 the only people there that look like us, and in 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.120 the instance that there might be one or two others 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:02.239 there in a domestic capacity, are the help if you will. 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.839 And I've always been certain that things like this were 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.599 said behind our back, with no hesitation, with no apology, 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:16.600 with no shame. But I recently witnessed it again firsthand. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:23.480 You know a room full of people that are not melanated, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:33.279 enthusiastically singing hip hop lyrics, repetitively saying the N word 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:38.240 in my company and no look of oops I messed up, No, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.480 not even the hesitation to continue to do. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.240 It over and over and over again. 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.599 It hurts more than you realize, because I do realize 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.440 that we have people who listen to our show that 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:58.600 are not black that may do this and don't see 0:06:58.600 --> 0:06:59.960 it as something wrong or problem. 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:03.600 When Drake and Kendrick. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:07.000 Lamar and Lil Wayne and whoever you know future, whoever 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:12.680 your favorite rapper is says that word in his record, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.360 Kanye West and jay Z come to mind, because their 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:22.000 grimmy has the word on it. That is not a 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.120 license for you to use that word. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:26.840 And I know. 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.560 Some of you honestly don't think that you're doing or 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:35.840 saying anything wrong. I can tell by the expression on 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.280 the face of these people that I was around recently. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:43.840 They were really really excited about the song that was playing. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.000 It was a song that they liked, not because that 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:47.960 word was in it, but they definitely did not shy 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.239 away from the parts of the song where that word 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.960 was expressed. And I won't say the name of the song, 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.560 but this song said it a lot, and they gave 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.440 me all I could handle as they enthusiastically rapped along 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.360 to this song. So, in the name of becoming a 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.960 better ally, have a real sense of how that feels 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:10.720 when we're present, and don't be so cavalier. It's about 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:11.800 respect our absence. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:16.680 Yeah, even if even if you think it's cool, and 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:18.880 even if you're right, if you're around your friends and 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.360 you think then they you think you're good, and they 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.560 think you're good. I think there's a way you can 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.679 show a little bit of respect. You know, the world is. 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.200 It feels different to different people. You know, I would 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:33.960 I would show respect to I don't know whoever else, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.480 anybody else if they if I felt like their tribe 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:43.520 generally wanted that for me. And so I think respect 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:48.160 comes into play there anyway. So let's talk about public 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:53.079 safety and what that means. Obviously, the first part of 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:57.120 the show, we talked about some police officers failing to engage. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.560 A couple of weeks ago, we talked about, you know, 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:05.480 shooting in Buffalo, and we've been having conversations a good 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.200 guy with a gun, bad guy with the gun. We've 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.200 been dealing with white supremacy. We've been dealing with white 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:15.040 supremacist institutions since the inception of the show. But one 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.960 thing that we keep coming up against is what we 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:23.000 need police officers. We need public safety, We need someone 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:24.880 that you can call the end of the number. I'll 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.200 not argue against that, right, but I want to have 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:34.120 you listen to a real world example of what public 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.960 safety is so that you can rethink what it should 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.880 be and we can have a critical examination of what 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:48.920 public safety means. Que the floor is yours. 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:55.360 I spent most of the last year away from my kids, 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:00.199 accepted a job that relocated me to Atlanta, Georgia. A 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.440 lot of our listeners know this. We did the show 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.760 remote for almost ten months. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.160 As a result, my daughter. 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:12.079 Who is two, and my son, who was four, they 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.960 both did a lot of growing up in dad's absence. 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.520 You know, ten months almost a year, does not sound 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.840 like a lot to those of us that are forty 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:26.800 years old, but when you're two, ten months is a 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:33.560 very long time. Even when you're four, you know, almost 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:38.360 one fourth of your life. As a result, my children 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.760 have what I jokingly called, you know daddy PTSD. 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:44.880 If I go to the. 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.600 Bathroom and it's a bathroom that's not in my bedroom, 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:52.120 my kids think I am leaving forever. So they chased 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.960 me out of the room, ask me very aggressively where 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.360 I'm going, and determine that they are going with me. 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.480 I've seen this happen there and not asking my permission. 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.880 They are not listening to me try to discourage them 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:08.600 to go back to the room with their mom. No no, no, no, no, 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:17.120 I'm going with dad. I am thankful and fortunate that 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:22.160 that same job recently promoted me and relocated me back 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.720 here to Arizona where I can be with my babies. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:28.280 And that is cost for celebration. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.840 And you know, a lot of perspective was built over 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.080 this last year as I spent that amount of time 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:42.679 away from them. Also because of this job, Ramses knows this. 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:48.200 I keep a very very irregular schedule. My day starts 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:52.800 at about two thirty am, when a lot of people 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.320 that are Ramses and I call colleagues have not gotten 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:59.839 home from work yet. My day is starting, which means 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.560 going to bed is a really strange thing because the 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:06.760 sun is out when I go to bed. Took the 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:11.640 family to dinner at about five o'clock and tried to 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.080 get home and into bed at a decent time. On 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:20.000 the way home from dinner two days ago, the initial 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.400 plan was to go grocery shopping, but it was getting 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:25.920 a little later than we hoped and we decided we're 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:31.000 going to table grocery shopping until the weekend. So I'm 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:32.760 just going to run into the store real quick to 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.559 get some milk so that my kids can have breakfast 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.600 milk and eggs and some fruit so they can eat 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:44.760 in the morning before their mom also goes to work. Now, 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:46.640 those of us that have children, those of you that 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:48.600 have children, know that the grocery store can be a 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:56.480 challenge with young children, especially multiple young children. So I'm 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:00.280 just going to run in the store myself. I'll be 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:05.480 right back. Well, I think I told you guys, my daughter, 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.160 for lack of better, don't play that. 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:14.200 Daddy, I'm going with you. It was not a question 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.160 mark on the end of it. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.720 She declared she was going with me, and she's a 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.160 little bit more difficult to reason with because she's too 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.360 I can have a conversation with my son, explained to 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.240 him to stay in the car with his mom. Daddy'll 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:29.839 be right back. I'm just running in to grab a 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.880 couple of things. My daughter, none of that reasoning would matter. 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.760 She would scream her lungs off and just stress her 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.920 mom out for no reason. So I'm just take her 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.720 with me. But baby, I'll be right back. Stay with 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:46.200 your mom. Now, my son wants to go too, but 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.440 he also wants to make his dad happy, so he'll 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:54.040 be grudgingly stay in the car, except sometimes, and again, 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.680 those of us with young children know sometimes our children 0:13:56.679 --> 0:14:00.320 will push right to the edge to see maybe if 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.480 I try this again, Daddy won't say no again. So 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.920 sometimes I have to stop and tell him again, like no, 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.079 get back in your car seat, stay in the car 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.960 with your mom, because he's gonna try to go again. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.320 Because I know this, I am approaching the grocery store 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.520 now with my daughter in my arms, listening for my 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.080 son to try to get out of the car and 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:23.320 come with me, because he always does, like clockwork, here 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.040 goes the door, and here I go turn it around 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:41.600 and tell Grayson's So it's really hard not to tremble 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:48.920 at this next part because when I turn around to 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.000 tell Grayson to stay in the car with his mom, 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.120 I notice that the person that opened his door is 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:07.440 not Grayson, but some strange man. And to paint the 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.040 picture for you, imagine yourself opening the rear door of 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.800 your car to reach in to get anything out, your child, 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:20.160 a bag, groceries, whatever is on the back seat. I 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.680 say that intentionally because there's a very, very specific way 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.160 you go about opening a back door and reaching in 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.280 to get something. So when I turn around, I don't 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:33.160 see a man yet, so I have to like. 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.480 Look down into the car. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:41.960 His mother, like me, thinks that the door she just 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:45.240 heard open was her son and that his dad is 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:46.840 about to tell him to get back in the car, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.440 so there's no need for alarm, except as I stopped talking, 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:57.280 something in her looks over her shoulder and sees a 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:02.320 man reaching into our back seat to grab our child. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.960 Had I not been preparing to tell my son to 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:13.320 stay in the car, I just walk into the grocery store. 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.320 This man grabs my son, gets into his car that 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:21.080 is running next two hours with two other people in it, 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.760 and drive away with him and with my daughter in 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.040 my hand, I could not have gotten into the car 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:33.080 fast enough to pursue them in a way that I 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.760 know I'm going to see my son again, safe and alive. 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.840 So I lean down into the car and I see 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:51.960 this strange man reaching into the car. She freezes, because 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.280 what else do you do? Like all of us think 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.480 these very heroic things about ourselves. You know, if it 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:03.000 would have been me, this is what I would have done. 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:07.600 I did not drop my daughter and jump over the 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.320 car and attack this man who looks like he's trying 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:17.000 to grab my son. I'd like to think I was 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:23.199 trying to process what to do if this man doesn't stop. 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.600 But just like we speak of the lack of heroism 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.160 and police officers, they're human beings. 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:32.280 Here. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.800 I am play, you know, put in my position to 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:39.000 be the hero. With my daughter in my arms and 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:44.160 some man attempting to take my child, all I can 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:49.720 do is make sure that this man sees me, see him, 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.160 and hope that the fact that I'm. 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.640 Coming towards him will startle him or stop him. 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.720 And it did, thank god, because I didn't run, I 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.600 didn't sprint, I didn't jump. I didn't grab him and 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.119 beat him up and throw them to the ground and 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:09.400 rescue my son. No, but this man saw me, see him, 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.680 stood up, said oops, wrong car, jumped into the running car. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.720 That his friends were in his friends or partners or 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:18.720 whatever you call them. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:20.879 I want, I want you to talk about this because 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:26.280 you have a friend that described that they move in 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.400 units like this, a kidnapping people, they move in units like. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:33.439 The next morning, I'm still shaking because I haven't slept 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.160 because you can't stop replaying. 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.879 What I watched happen, and he used to be a 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.080 police officer in Brazil. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.960 A colleague of mine and I say, hey, man, somebody 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:49.840 almost took my kid last night, and he says, where 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.760 were you? I said, at the grocery store. His immediate response, 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.680 with no hesitation, was it was a woman and two men, 0:18:55.840 --> 0:19:02.600 wasn't it. This was startling. The accuracy was almost no 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:07.959 details that he described what almost happened to us, right, 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:12.840 a woman present to disarm you as a parent, to 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:17.440 calm the child that they're going to take, and had 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:21.400 this happen inside of the store, maybe to just distract me. Hey, sir, 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.320 do you know what alda? And whatever question she's asking me, 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.639 I don't notice my kid is now gone. This is 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:33.840 how this is supposed to play out for them. The 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.960 easy way to tell this story is, hey, somebody almost 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:40.600 took my kid, but they didn't, so we're cool. The problem, however, 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:46.160 somebody almost took my kid, Not I caught someone following 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.359 me and that might have let no, no, no, no, the 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:49.400 attempt happened. 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.720 It's like somebody almost killed me. Not I was in a. 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.520 Situation where someone may have tried like no, the person 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:02.199 actively pulled out a gun and shot me, and or 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:06.040 this person walked up to my car, opened the door, 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.119 and it's going to take my son. 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.920 The worst case scenario of this story. 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:19.560 Happens if I take one more step away from the car, 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.159 because the timing has to be that she's going to 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.600 be paying the least amount attention. And so am I 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:28.520 when I just got out, grabbed my daughter, and am 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.399 about to walk into the grocery store. I've committed to 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.000 walking in there. I just got out, so there's no 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.359 need for alarm. The door has not been locked yet. 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.760 They take my kid, They're gone by the time I 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:41.359 get back to the car. It doesn't matter, and they 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.560 can ambroleert all they want. We live really really close 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:44.360 to the border here. 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:52.440 Now you reached out to the police, because of course 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:56.720 you do, right, I'm not talking around this. I'm talking 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:01.520 to you. Someone attempt to kidnap your son, break in 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:08.000 your house, vandalize your house, hits your car. You call 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:18.120 the police. So what do they do? They take a statement? Excellent. 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:29.800 Now, had you told me this story twenty years ago 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.639 when I was nineteen, maybe actually there's no point in 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:39.959 my life you had told me the story. But there 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:42.520 are people who've grown up in a world maybe they 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:46.840 weren't educated in the way that I was right, And 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.239 you can tell them that story. You can tell them 0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:51.639 that story now, and then you tell them, yeah, I 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:55.560 called the police, and they will assume great, you called 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:59.360 the police. So the police got out there. They didn't 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.920 invest again, they had detectives. They looked up then numbers 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.439 they looked or license plate numbers. They chased down the 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:07.359 bad guys. They found them, they arrested them, put them 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:12.800 in jail. Which does happen. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, right, 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:16.600 But you just told a story, and then you said 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.119 you called the police. Someone broke into my house one time. 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:23.280 I lived in a really nice part of town. When 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.679 I bought my first house, I was nineteen actually at 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.720 that time, bought a really nice house, really nice part 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:29.000 of town. 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:30.080 Someone broke into my house. 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:33.960 The police took a statement, they didn't even dust for fingerprints, 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:35.359 and then they left. 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:38.920 Right, They probably gave you a business card exactly. 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:41.760 And so what happens a lot of times is that 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:45.800 we need to understand that police only show up after 0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:50.280 a crime has been committed. They if someone's ever broken 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:52.720 into your car, you understand this they can only show 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:58.040 up after the crime has been committed and do their best, 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:00.480 and a lot of times their best nothing. 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.120 They don't do their best. And that's kind of the point. 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.680 Now there's not going to be an investigation because people 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.040 might still be listening because I said they took a 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.240 statement and there was like ellipses. 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:13.760 It wasn't a period like I was done. 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.560 It took a statement and gave me a business card 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.480 and these words specifically were said. 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.520 In the event that someone else reports. 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:27.320 Something like this, will have this information from you. 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:30.200 Now. The reason it's important for us to say this 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:31.240 is because. 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:37.920 A lot of us think that police make us safe. 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:41.920 Police are more often who we call after we've already 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:46.160 been violated, and we say it on the show quite 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:50.520 a bit. Obviously it has not achieved enough support, but 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:54.080 I'll say it one more time. The movement to defund 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.680 the police is really a movement to reallocate the fiscal 0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:02.720 resources of police departments into programs and systems that will 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:06.679 prevent crime from happening in the first place. If you 0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:08.880 do a little bit of research into it, you will 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.120 see that the ideas have merit, and the traditional policing 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:16.240 system model often leaves people who might have their children 0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:20.080 taken from them in a state of worry, with no 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:24.439 real finality to it. You're just left to live in 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:25.320 fear and move on. 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:29.399 Can I borrow thirty seconds from you? I describe the man, 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.640 what he was wearing, and the car that they drove 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:38.200 off in. There is not going to be an investigation. 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:43.520 So on the marking lot where it happened has video cameras, 0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:47.960 there's not going to be an investigation. So in essence, 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.359 these people have to actually kidnap someone's kid first. 0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:57.159 For that kid, they'll have to be missing. 0:24:56.840 --> 0:25:02.520 For a certain amount of time first, and then the 0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:06.600 police will start to try to investigate and find this 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:07.439 missing child. 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.879 With that said, I think it is upon you to 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:15.840 begin to rethink what public safety means in our culture 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:17.760