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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. Hopefully we're not talking underwater.

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Speaker 3: We're not. I think we're all set right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have microphones in front of us, unlike we

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Speaker 2: did last Friday, and everything's working out here. It's all

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Speaker 2: coming together.

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Speaker 3: And for us, this might be the start of the

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Speaker 3: regular season. This is five days a week preseasons. In

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Speaker 3: the in the rearview mirror. We've got cuts coming up,

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: So we don't have cuts coming up.

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Speaker 3: We got cuts happening. Yeah, Steers right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Steelers making a bunch of moves here. The last

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Speaker 2: couple of days gone are Rex Sonaharahkeem Butler, Cody White,

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Speaker 2: Dan Chiesne, Aaron Crookshank. Those guys all receivers except for

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Speaker 2: Sana Harrow, who's a long snapper. Defensive lineman. James I

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Speaker 2: can never his name so many times Nowayam waya linebacker,

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Speaker 2: ke keone Ding linebacker, Forrest Ryan, defensive back, Maudrie Harper.

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Speaker 2: He's a guy We talked a little bit about training camp, but.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't it wasn't awful.

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Speaker 2: You know, he showed up in mid place.

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Speaker 3: There's only two or three of these names that might

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Speaker 3: be back in black and Gold on the practice squad.

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Speaker 2: Could be defensive back Neville Clark, kicker b T Potter,

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Speaker 2: h linebacker Tanner Muse. People were surprised by that. I

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Speaker 2: was not cornerback Lavert Hill, defensive line Manny lineman Manny Jones,

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Speaker 2: linebacker Toby and Duke Way. Uh. He was, of course,

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Speaker 2: uh noteworthy because he was the guy Kendrick Green ran

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Speaker 2: over a couple of times the first time he played fullback.

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Speaker 3: He played a ton of special team snaps too. I

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Speaker 3: think they'd given him a look, and I guess they

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Speaker 3: made their decision.

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Speaker 2: Offensive lineman the Raven Clark and William Dunkle.

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Speaker 3: I was a little I didn't know if Dunkle would

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Speaker 3: be the first cuts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean some So here's what happens.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you release these guys early with the intention of

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Speaker 2: bringing them back at you kind of hope you sneak

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Speaker 2: them through a little bit as opposed to the last

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Speaker 2: because everybody just assumes, like, like what you just said, well,

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Speaker 2: if they waited to the last cut, they must really

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Speaker 2: like this.

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Speaker 3: They're really torn if they should keep him or not.

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Speaker 3: As opposed to Boyd, we loved uncle. But if he

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Speaker 3: gets through, we're putting him right on the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: He's the one that stood out the most of me

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Speaker 3: for that regard. Yeah, I know, Muse and Clark our names.

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Speaker 3: They signed him in the offseason. I assume they gave

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Speaker 3: him a signing bonus at some point of some sort,

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Speaker 3: but neither one really should be on the team. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Uh, then you have a cornerback or quarterback tann Or

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Speaker 2: Morgan who was the number four guy, running back Darius Higgans,

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Speaker 2: safety Kenny Robinson, who got a lot of buzz in

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Speaker 2: the preseason. He was because of injuries at the safety position,

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Speaker 2: was getting a lot of first team run throughout camp,

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Speaker 2: and then slowly worked his way down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, down, the buzz started the fade lot.

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Speaker 2: And then safety Jalen Elliott, who they signed a few

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Speaker 2: weeks ago when they had all those injuries at safety.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it shocks people that Butler and White, the two receivers,

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Speaker 3: already got it.

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Speaker 2: They were both hurt.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, is White potentially a practice water again.

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Speaker 2: Potentially he was Yeah, he was waved injured. So you know,

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Speaker 2: there's always a settlement there. You can do that and

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Speaker 2: say when you're completely healthy, we'll still have your doctor

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Speaker 2: check you out and then we'll bring you back.

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Speaker 3: And obviously they have a great familiarity with him and

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Speaker 3: he's been a quality member of the franchise. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: I would think you'd have some value.

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Speaker 2: Other than that. No big surprises there. The Steelers also

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Speaker 2: trading Kevin Dotson to the Rams yesterday. They get a

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four fourth round draft pick and he twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five fifth round draft pick for Dotson and their

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Speaker 3: No, I think you missed one in there. They gave

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Speaker 3: up two picks and dots and oh.

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Speaker 2: That's right. They did give up two picks. They went

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Speaker 2: they they came up around, they came up around them.

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Speaker 2: Both in both of those they get a fourth and

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Speaker 3: With Kevin, and to me, that's significance, a big deal.

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Speaker 3: You know, most of the deals you'll see around the

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Speaker 2: Additional seven, six.

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe if it's kind of a brand name, dude.

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Speaker 3: But the way I look at it, I mean, just

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to try to predict two drafts down

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Speaker 3: the road where everybody's picking. But this upcoming one, I

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Speaker 3: think the Rams are gonna be terrible. Do you think

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Speaker 3: the Rams are gonna be terrible? So their fourth round pick,

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Speaker 3: and this isn't the same as like the Claypool trade,

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Speaker 3: but it's two rounds later. If their fourth round pick

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Speaker 3: think are going to pick twenty or later in the

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Speaker 3: following round. So you're moving up like fifty spots.

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Speaker 2: Significantly, because there's there's comp picks in there as.

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Speaker 3: Well, right right, right, So maybe you're moving up sixty spots,

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Speaker 3: which on draft day would cost you much more than

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Speaker 3: a seventh round pick. So so trading Dotson straight up

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Speaker 3: for a seven this is much better, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean? Yeah, And plus you want picks in four

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Speaker 3: and five. I mean, the beauty of it.

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Speaker 2: It was that Dotson was a fourth round pick, so

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Speaker 2: you got the fourth round pick bank that you used

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Speaker 2: on him, you basically rented to own.

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Speaker 3: Rarely do you get that case. I mean, most players

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Speaker 3: when you drive him off a lot. You don't get

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Speaker 3: what you go last trade lance, right, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean? Not most don't go up in value. So no,

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Speaker 3: that works out great. It actually works out well for him,

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Speaker 3: And I think it's good for the Rams too, because

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Speaker 2: Him, in which case that would be good for the

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Speaker 2: Steelers later in the season right when they play the Rams,

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Speaker 2: they play the ramste because he would presumably be lined

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Speaker 3: Now a good point, and there are some familiarity there too.

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Speaker 3: So what was I gonna say about that? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's a big loss. You and I

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Speaker 2: He was the guy that you could trade because there

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Speaker 2: were starting value there, two years worth of starting value.

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Speaker 2: Still pretty young, still young, still has a reasonable contract,

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Speaker 2: you know, So the Rams can basically rent him this year.

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Speaker 3: To see what they want to do with see what

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Speaker 2: They want to do. They want to extend him, if

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Speaker 2: and maybe they get a compic out of it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that's how they looked at it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, last year, not to people care about the

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Speaker 3: So they would have killed for somebody like him. And

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Speaker 3: I think they're looking at it like, well, he might

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Speaker 3: start for us. If not, we knew what it like

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Speaker 3: to not have the depth. So yeah, it made some sense.

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Speaker 2: You know. I've seen people speculate about what this means

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Speaker 2: I mean you're you're you're looking at well, I can't

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Speaker 2: believe they're going to keep Kendrick Green. Well, Kendrick Green

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Speaker 2: plays multiple spots. Kevin Dotsons does not, and you weren't

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Speaker 3: Green's also more talent.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't made it yet either. They still Ryan McCollum

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Speaker 2: you know, Nate Herbig is now getting healthy that that

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Speaker 3: The herbig signing to me was the writing on the

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Speaker 3: wall that Thoughtson was in trouble correct and then they

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Speaker 3: well then as well, which they signed him, right, and

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Speaker 3: that was like, oh, okay, you're in trouble. So no,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Green sticks,

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Speaker 3: but he might and he might.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think with the release of the offensive

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Speaker 2: tackle Green, it's Green, Clark, Clark, I'm sorry, Clark. They

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Speaker 2: obviously like Dylan Cook too, and Spencer Anderson.

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Speaker 3: I think the team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Spencer Anderson's making team. Dylan Cook might be there

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Speaker 2: that's the case, you know you're keeping her Big. You know,

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Speaker 2: you're keeping Broderick Jones. That's two spots. You know you're

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Speaker 2: keeping Spencer Anderson. So then it comes down to Green

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Speaker 2: or McCollum.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is that that would be nine? That would be nine. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well you got your starting five. Let me do this again,

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Speaker 3: starting five.

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Speaker 2: Broderick her Big, right, you think Anderson think and is

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's eight.

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Speaker 2: They obviously they may not want to expose a young

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Speaker 3: Cook to Cook or McCollum probably gets that last spot

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Speaker 3: or Green or Green. Okay, So there's three guys basically

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Speaker 3: fighting for one, assuming you keep nine.

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Speaker 2: Well, the three guys fighting for two, assuming you keep nine,

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Speaker 2: because you got Jones on your bench. You got Jones,

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Speaker 2: Anderson or Jones, Jones and Herbig are the givens. And

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Speaker 2: you have two spots left and you've got Green, h Cook, McCollum,

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Speaker 3: Okay, I was counting Anderson is a lock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, then you got two get three guys

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Speaker 3: Three for yea, three for number nine. Okay, I mean

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Speaker 3: that makes sense, and maybe you could get those guys

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Speaker 3: onto the practice squad. I think ideally you'd like to

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Speaker 3: keep all three in some capacity. Yeah, you know. So interesting. Lastly,

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Speaker 3: on Green, I thought he played well with guard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I did too.

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Speaker 3: He might be a guard, a polling guard, a movement guard, you.

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Speaker 2: Know which, he just might not be able to play center, right,

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Speaker 2: you know. And that was I mean, I loved him

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Speaker 2: coming in Illinois because I saw the movement skills that

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Speaker 3: He does the camp Hayward stough, Yeah, Connor Hayward stuff.

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Speaker 2: He didn't beat out Kevin Dotson last year for that

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Speaker 2: starting left guard spot. Okay, he had been you know,

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Speaker 2: he spent the previous year all at center. You know,

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Speaker 2: it might just be that, Okay, he might just be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they're I think all all everyone

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Speaker 3: because it sure seemed like he was center, center center

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Speaker 3: for almost all of camp. Let's leave in one spot,

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Speaker 3: see if he can do it, And maybe he showed

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Speaker 3: he couldn't. But maybe they should have started him at

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Speaker 3: guard the whole time. Ye who knows. But Anderson's versatility

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so you, I mean so people, the

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Speaker 2: Steelers need to get a backup center. Her Big play center,

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Speaker 2: Out the rest of the year, you could move one

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Speaker 3: One of the starter types.

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Speaker 3: I've seen names. I've seen like six or seven names,

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think either. They got five guys on

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Speaker 3: I'd like to seeing more of her big do it,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen him do it in practice. It's not

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Speaker 2: They've only used Broderick Jones at left tackle.

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Speaker 2: So if you have excuse me, an injury to chooks

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Speaker 2: only gotten maybe five snaps per practice. They've basically they've

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Speaker 3: what could derail the Steelers season? Then? Oh, nothing, They're great,

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Speaker 3: you're perfect. Things are gonna go wrong, you know, not

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Speaker 2: Their problem is is that they just haven't done it enough.

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Speaker 3: From him, because boy, he's gotten better and better at

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Speaker 2: So you know, maybe that happens down the road and

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Speaker 2: But they haven't done that, that's why, you know, so.

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Speaker 3: I just found it interesting they did it at all.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot there's not.

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Speaker 2: And Broderick Jones has played exclusively on the left side.

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Speaker 2: Dan Moore, I guarantee you, over the course of training

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Speaker 3: In practice, Yeah, in practice, sometimes with the ones.

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Speaker 2: He's not as good as Dan Morey.

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Speaker 3: He's not as good as dam Moore, right, so at

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Speaker 2: If he were playing for the Arizona Cardinals right now,

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Speaker 3: That's not the case, not necessarily.

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Speaker 2: No, he's starting because the team he's playing on doesn't

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Speaker 3: So I would imagine what there's thirty two first round picks,

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Speaker 3: back to one thing you were saying there a minute ago,

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Speaker 3: active on game day. I don't know how you could

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Speaker 2: Well, unless so it could be Cook if they feel

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Speaker 2: interior guy, it'd be your BJ finny, right, he's your

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Speaker 2: BJ finny. If Cook can play guard and tackle.

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Speaker 3: Then he can play. There's three spots he could help

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Speaker 3: you out. Yeah, okay, because obviously Jones will go in.

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Speaker 2: And you keep you keep eight active. So they could

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Speaker 3: Or if Kendrick Green makes the team, he could be

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Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of different ways you can go with.

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Speaker 3: That, Okay, none of which I think are bad.

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Speaker 2: No, No, especially if.

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Speaker 3: You could squeeze Cook onto the practice squad. Or McCollum

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Speaker 3: But you'd love to have him on the practice He'd love.

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Speaker 2: To have him on a practice squad. Get another year

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Speaker 2: of seasoning and see what he is, you know, next

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Speaker 3: So I just did an article about preseason snap counts,

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Speaker 3: so this is on my mind. So my apologies. I'll

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Speaker 3: my worry is that second team line, the McCollums and

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Speaker 3: O line shortage in the league right now than any

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Speaker 3: of us think, like, I'm sure's people out there going

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Speaker 3: who's that to pick up Cook and McCallum, Williams. What

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Speaker 3: trust me, I was there with the Browns. I guys

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Speaker 2: In case in point is the New England Patriots in

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Speaker 2: the last two days have traded for two offensive linemen, right, Okay, this.

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Speaker 3: Is the Patriots, so they drafted three of them this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is supposed to be one of their strengths

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Speaker 3: Kevin Dotson's making the rams right right, r exactly. That's interesting.

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Speaker 3: I saw the one and frankly, they used the first

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Speaker 3: and they're trading for guys. Yeah, that's odd.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't bode well for them that, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you don't want to be the other end

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean so yeah, there there are teams

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Speaker 3: To the wrap it up. McCollum and Cook aren't guaranteed

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you might have a better chance of making that

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Speaker 2: You know, they still have I believe they're at seventy

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Speaker 3: Cuts as we take the show twenty players, right, it

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Speaker 3: was nine to ten and Dowson Yeah, okay, so some

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Speaker 2: They got seventeen more cuts to get to before four

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Speaker 3: One interesting name that's still on the roster is Man

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Speaker 3: They let the backup kicker go. Those are easy cuts.

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Speaker 2: That's a possibility because there's still some teams out there

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Speaker 2: it's not like he was kicking in Tampa and you're like, well,

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. I mean, he's not going to make

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Speaker 2: Somebody asked me that that question was they didn't cut

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Speaker 2: you're you're waiting to see if you get a call

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Speaker 3: And the Browns is traded for kicker. I mean, kickers

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Speaker 2: This is the time of year when people realize, oh,

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Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers played their final preseason game without

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a late third. That was their first

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Speaker 3: pick of the whole draft.

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Speaker 2: So this is that's a big deal for them, Like

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Speaker 2: huge deal for them. Would think that they want that

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Speaker 2: kid to be their kicker. I think he has a

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Speaker 2: quad injury of some type that says he's It makes

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Speaker 2: his status for week one in jeopardy. They might have

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Speaker 2: to carry two kickers into the regular season or into

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Speaker 2: their on their fifty three man.

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Speaker 3: This is a big deal to put something to do.

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Speaker 2: Something with him or carry two kickers. That's significant.

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Speaker 3: Side note on them. Had a good conversation on our podcast.

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Speaker 3: I remember our co host is a is a Niner guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, so is the trade lance trade just gonna

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Speaker 3: give them the money to get the both that. He's like, no,

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Speaker 3: not at all. They're super far apart. Like he's like,

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Speaker 3: you're playing Niners the right week.

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Speaker 2: We're less than two weeks out.

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Speaker 3: Now and he's not still he's still.

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Speaker 2: Not a forty nine er, and they don't seem to

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Speaker 2: be close.

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Speaker 3: You don't have a kicker and defensive Player of the

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Speaker 3: Year at the moment. It's a big deal, big deal, and.

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Speaker 2: That's a big deal for sure. We'll keep an eye,

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Speaker 2: will continue to keep an eye on that one. But

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Speaker 2: he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening

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Speaker 2: back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And

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Speaker 2: I Matt. It's just wanted to change gears here a

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Speaker 2: little bit, and let's talk a little TJ. Watt here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's coming.

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Speaker 2: In his past seventeen games in which he has started

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Speaker 2: and played the full game, the Steelers are twelve and five.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 2: In those seventeen games, what has fifteen and a half sacks,

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Speaker 2: thirty one quarterback hits, two interceptions, sixteen tackles for a

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Speaker 2: loss in three fumbles. If I said, Matt can TJ

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Speaker 2: is if those are TJ Watts numbers, he plays all

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Speaker 2: seventeen games this year and has those numbers, would you

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Speaker 2: take that or would you say, now I'll go finish.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm going fish. It's a pretty nice number.

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Speaker 2: There's a pretty nice number, like those are those are

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Now? That's all pro Now.

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Speaker 2: That's defensive player of the Year numbers consideration fifteen and

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Speaker 2: a half sacks, two interceptions, like three forced fumbles, Like you're.

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Speaker 3: It's two huge plays a game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, plus you're wreaking havoc out there on a consistent

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Speaker 2: basis over seventeen games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, there's two schools of thought on that is

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Speaker 3: that's everyone's turning that down. Seems a little foolish from anyone.

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Speaker 3: Lawrence Taylor, like.

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Speaker 2: He's are over under for sacks this year. I think

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Speaker 2: if you have to be under it, it's like thirteen

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Speaker 2: and a half.

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Speaker 3: Right, So he would go because injuries.

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Speaker 2: He would go over that number considered like two sacks

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Speaker 2: over then over the numbers significant.

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Speaker 3: I mean you win all your bets on the over, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: which is pretty nice. I mean, it's kind of like

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Speaker 3: our fantasy stuff. If you if you draft this guy

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Speaker 3: in the first round and he can beat this number,

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Speaker 3: do you take it? Yeah? I mean the safe bet

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Speaker 3: is saying yes. And then the other reason I think

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Speaker 3: you say yes too is I don't if you agree

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Speaker 3: or not. But let's say he knock on Wood has

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Speaker 3: zero injury all year, can play every snap if he wants,

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Speaker 3: probably will place still a smaller percentage, just because the

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Speaker 3: guys behind him are good, Like, he may have a

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Speaker 3: few less opportunities to rack up numbers, but might it

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Speaker 3: might make him count more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might make him more productive.

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Speaker 3: I think that's really true with Cam Hayward. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: guess I would take him. I mean, because that is

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Speaker 3: you're probably be in the top five voting for defensive

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Speaker 3: Player of the Year. Yeah, I mean if it's both

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Speaker 3: parsons or I mean where I could take him to.

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Speaker 2: What was the league lead for sacks last year? Sixteen?

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Speaker 3: Was it? I think? So what was he at twenty

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Speaker 3: two though the week.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two and a half the year before fifteen and

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Speaker 2: a half sacks is nothing?

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Speaker 3: Just like it's going to be among the league leaders. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean won a game is you just take it? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you just take it.

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Speaker 2: Two interceptions and three forced fumbles. I mean those are again,

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Speaker 2: that's what the when they didn't have him last year

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Speaker 2: in people's well, T J. Watt can't mean that much

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Speaker 2: to this defense.

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Speaker 3: Of course he does. He does. Of course he does.

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Speaker 3: Of course he does. My initial thought for saying no, though,

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Speaker 3: is the little we've seen him, I think he looks

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Speaker 3: better than ever.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, you know, And I think he

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Speaker 2: might have a little bit of a chip on his

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Speaker 2: shoulder this year. Like everybody's talking about all these other

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Speaker 2: guys and you know, potentially, you know, defensive player of

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Speaker 2: the Year and Bosa won it last year, and well

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett's cause he's the league you know, he's the

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Speaker 2: you know, odds on favorite this year.

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Speaker 3: What pays off pretty well, yeah, defensive player of the year. Like, hey, don't.

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Speaker 2: Forget about me. I'm over here.

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Speaker 3: Like and I doubt he pays attention to these lists

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Speaker 3: and all these things. But all these edge rusher lists,

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Speaker 3: he's not number one, Like, he's.

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Speaker 2: Not even he's not even two or three, four.

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Speaker 3: Four, yeah, or I've seen him five behind Max Crosby,

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Speaker 3: which is ridiculous. I mean, those guys are all awesome.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if we were in Cleveland, but I think Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a little out of sight, out of

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Speaker 2: mind for TJ Wan to people not remember he had

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Speaker 2: twenty two and a half sacks in fifteen games two

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Speaker 2: years ago.

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Speaker 3: And it's not like Russell Wilson had a bad year.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, or boy, he's declining, he's got hurt.

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Speaker 3: He was great when he was pre injury. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: there was a actually when he came back too early,

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Speaker 3: but to his credit, he came back but he still

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Speaker 3: was a force. And to your point, the last seventeen

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Speaker 3: games are pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Twelve and five, twelve and five and twelve and five

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Speaker 2: is the is the significant number there?

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Speaker 3: If we don't take that part though, Yeah, if they had.

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Speaker 2: If they have seventeen games of t J. Watt this year,

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Speaker 2: do they go twelve and five?

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Speaker 3: Again? Probably not, but we would might be close. I

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Speaker 3: mean we're not taking door number two. We're going fish

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Speaker 3: on that. It might be close, It might be close.

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Speaker 3: It might be close. Yeah, it's and I do think

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Speaker 3: her Big and Golden are going to see the field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is you know, with with now Alex

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Speaker 2: Highsmith emerging as a guy opposit him. Like, you know,

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Speaker 2: the ESPN just released their their their top one hundred.

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Speaker 2: This is done by there, didn't even look by their experts.

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Speaker 2: Cam Hayward didn't make the top one hundred. Are you

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Speaker 2: kidding me? Are you kidding?

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Speaker 3: Boy? There's a lot of good D tackles, but I

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Speaker 3: don't care. Yeah, if he's low on a D tackle list,

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Speaker 3: I can live with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Simmons, Quinn Williams.

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Speaker 2: Some of the guys on there were laughable, really laughable.

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Speaker 2: These were their NFL, these experts.

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Speaker 3: I wonder who was voting on that.

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Speaker 2: And then and then I looked at who who got snubbed.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't even mentioned there, just totally forgotten, just.

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Speaker 2: Like he doesn't exist. Like this guy's a four time

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Speaker 2: All Pro, has made the last six Pro Bowls and

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Speaker 2: you just left them off your Listen to ah, well,

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Speaker 2: no big deal.

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Speaker 3: So we've talked about this a fair amount that that's insane,

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Speaker 3: but we talked about this fairmount too though. One of

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Speaker 3: the reasons why I would take the under on those

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Speaker 3: WAT stat line though, I really think they're gonna have

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Speaker 3: leads more than they ever have and they're playing lesser

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks and the guys that take sacks. So I ran

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Speaker 3: the numbers on Richards and takes a ton of sacks.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: If you look at who they so you know who

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Speaker 2: the six quarterbacks that they face in season, assuming la

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Speaker 2: Lamar plays because the last two seasons Lamar hasn't played against.

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Speaker 3: Them, Watson takes a ton of sacks. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: that's one of his biggest Burrow takes a ton of

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Speaker 3: s takes a ton of sacks, and is he gonna

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Speaker 3: be a little immobile.

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Speaker 2: Outside of that? The only quarterbacks that they face who

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Speaker 2: would even be considered.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw the Sando thing, but

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Speaker 3: like he did your strength of schedule versus Tears, and

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Speaker 3: the Steelers were like thirteenth or eleven something like that,

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Speaker 3: but they were.

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Speaker 2: The revision schedule. Yeah, the division schedule was so vision,

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Speaker 2: which I get, but the division schedule was only thirty

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Speaker 2: five percent of your schedule.

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Speaker 3: So the Raiders were the only team that face a

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Speaker 3: harder slate of division quarterback right, That totally adds up. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but if you exclude that, which again they know those guys, well,

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Speaker 3: it's not bad. It's just not bad at all.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, Gino Smith, That's it.

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Speaker 3: But Lawrence is the only one you even consider like

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Speaker 3: a top ten guy, right.

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Speaker 2: Do you really think Gino Smith can replicate what he

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Speaker 2: did last year because he didn't in the second half

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Speaker 2: of last year. No, I think teams started to figure out, Okay,

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Speaker 2: he's going to get the ball quickly here. It's a

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Speaker 2: lot of easy completions to the out. You know, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll give that.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's a nice slate. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: that Watson's good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know either. He I'm watched the final preseason

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Speaker 2: game because he played.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he actually played.

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Speaker 2: Now he was five to ten. He was playing against

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Speaker 2: backups too, five to ten. He fumbled twice, lost one

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Speaker 2: of them.

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Speaker 3: He may I didn't watch any other that. He made

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Speaker 3: a few runs though, from what.

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Speaker 2: I read again, against backups.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, but.

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Speaker 2: People may say, if you're gonna say that about Kenny Pitt,

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Speaker 2: well he did that against backups. Kenny Pickett dominated backups dominated.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know the Watson dominated

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Speaker 2: anybody's backup domination.

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Speaker 3: From gathering, so I'm not saying pickets the third, fourth,

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Speaker 3: or third, second or first best quarterback in the division.

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Speaker 3: But he is the most momentum right now at the

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Speaker 3: end of augusta without question.

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Speaker 2: I mean Burrow hasn't played, Lamar didn't play the entire practice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Watson just trying to get back to normalcy.

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Speaker 3: Lamar might be great. Who knows, but we haven't seen it.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, but I would I guess I would take that.

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Speaker 3: Watch that line that's really.

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Speaker 2: In a half thirty one quarterback hits, Like.

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Speaker 3: You should take it. Yeah, but he could easily exceed it.

654
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: Not easily, but I think it would't bow me away.

655
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't be like if he had twenty sacks

656
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 2: and forty quarterback hits, I'd be like, oh, okay, that

657
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: makes sense.

658
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: A couple more like I'll take the over on forced fumbles. Yeah,

659
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 3: he's great at that. He made it four or five?

660
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean high Smith led the league last year

661
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 2: with five. Oh really, he tied for the league league

662
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: with the son Reddick.

663
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: I believe it's amazing. They still were the bottom of

664
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: the league. Get recovering him. Yeah, that's well.

665
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: And not only that, but they only forced nine is

666
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: a team like high Smith had half of their forced

667
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: fumbles because the inside linebackers didn't do anything. Didn't do anything,

668
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 2: and add anything to that equation.

669
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: And one to watch superpowers is getting the ball out.

670
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just takes it away like he's a bully

671
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: on the On the.

672
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: I think JJ's superpower was swatting them, and TJ's is

673
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: getting it out.

674
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: He does pretty good job of swatting them too.

675
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I think I told you by tinfoil

676
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: hat theory that all of a sudden, I think, like

677
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: when Cam got really good at it, TJ got really

678
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: good at it. Like I think they were hanging out

679
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: with JJ getting some tips or something. I don't know.

680
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: I think there's an influence.

681
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: In Tyl pretty good.

682
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: I was trying to think there was another guy I

683
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: was gonna say to it, but that was too long ago, right.

684
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: So Yeah, I mean I just think people are if

685
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: they could possibly be sleeping on the twenty twenty one

686
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year, I think they are.

687
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: And Watt, yeah, he could easily win it again. Oh yeah,

688
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: I mean I think I think it's odds should at

689
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: least be very comparable to Bosa Parsons Garrett. Yeah, Like,

690
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if Crosby can win it because they're.

691
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: Team they're gonna be bad. But if the Steelers tripp again,

692
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: if they're twelve and five or something along those lines. Yeah,

693
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: and the defense is obviously going to be a big

694
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: part of that. If it's if it's back to being

695
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: a top five defense in their second third or above

696
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: in sacks, he's gonna be in a conversation.

697
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: Not to match it. If Bosa misses a couple of weeks,

698
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: he's not going to be in the conversation, right, And

699
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: you better get in camp too. I mean, there's other

700
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: guys that could win it. It's not gonna be a

701
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: four horse race. But Donald won't, Crosby won't. Yeah, they're

702
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: gonna get off of them every time. Nothing around them.

703
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: Yea.

704
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: As great as they are, they almost can't win it.

705
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: And I just don't know that we'll ever see not

706
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: this year. We're not going to see a defensive back

707
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: win it this year. There are too many good edge

708
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: rushers in the league.

709
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: Chris Jones could, but he's not in camp.

710
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: Either, right, He's scared. He's sitting out.

711
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and those are the guys that are highly capable

712
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: or should be at the top of the list.

713
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just thought that was interesting when I when

714
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: I started looking up those.

715
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: Five things big. Yeah, obviously, you.

716
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: Know, if they can keep him healthy, in which they

717
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: should be able to do, and even even if he

718
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: does miss a game, I think they're much better positioned

719
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: this year to deal with it. They won't sink, right,

720
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: it's not going to be those the one and six

721
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: record that they had last year in games without what.

722
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: So this is a totally different conversation. How much do

723
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: you think Herbig actually plays to no fault of his own,

724
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: he might have a hard time getting defensive playing time

725
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: because he's probably gonna be behind Golden, right, I don't know,

726
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: And that's what we know.

727
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: We know her Big is going to be active on

728
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: game days.

729
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: He plays special defense player, obvious.

730
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: So can you afford then in every single game to

731
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: keep four edge rushers active. I think the answer is

732
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: if one of them doesn't play special teams, only one does, Right,

733
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: that's the that's the problem. I think the answer is yes, probably.

734
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think last year Jones and Reed were

735
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: both special teams.

736
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: I think maybe they might make it and just say,

737
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: you know what, we're going to make this side specific.

738
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: You're the left or the right, concentrate on it. Yeah,

739
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: maybe you're just his direct backup. If he taps out,

740
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: you run right in.

741
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: And then if if it turns into a longer term thing,

742
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: then you can decide which one you want to put where.

743
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: And this isn't divulging any secrets, but I have not

744
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: seen any three edges on the field together stuff since

745
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: Ingram was here. But that wasn't that long ago.

746
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't that long. They've done it. They've been.

747
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: Right. And I think the other problem, well the problem

748
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: but roadblock for her big playing time for that is well,

749
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: they're starting to warm up to their inside guys. They're

750
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: not going to take Ogunjobi off the field. If they are,

751
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: it's going to be for Benton, it's not going to

752
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: be for These are all good problems that, yeah, but

753
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: just something to look for.

754
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he may get out there. Maybe it's five

755
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: snaps a game, maybe it's ten snaps a game, but

756
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: I think there'll be five, five to ten high quality

757
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: snaps a game.

758
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: I would think I doubt it's second and two.

759
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, if he plays one hundred and seventy snaps

760
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: is a rookie, okay, how many?

761
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: How many sacks do you think they get from that position? Room?

762
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: Well, let's just work, okay, So if what gets that number?

763
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: Fifteen and a half?

764
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: Okay, j Bett heigsminths gets ten?

765
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: Itlly?

766
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so there being conservative think yeah, I

767
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: think he's playing times to drop a little too. Again

768
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: a good problem.

769
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: I think he can get thirty.

770
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: I don't think you'll get ten out of the two backups.

771
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: No, but I think you can get three or four, so.

772
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: Say six to eight. Yeah, it's a lot from one

773
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: position group.

774
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then I think the inside backers are also

775
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: going to be much more active. Getting to the quarterback.

776
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: Two would be great.

777
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: It would be more than the one that they had

778
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: last year.

779
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: I also think, maybe I'm not I'm wrong about Ogan Joby,

780
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 3: but I would like to see him on the field more.

781
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: But I think he's more of a five or six

782
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 3: guy than a two. Yeah, for sure.

783
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 2: And well, and the thing is, when you have both

784
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: Watt and high Smith as well as Hayward going full tilt,

785
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: like if they're all one hundred percent healthy, Ogan Joby's

786
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: gonna get singled up all the time, all the time.

787
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: Will at to right, Like I always think about, well,

788
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: you got.

789
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 2: To pick your poison with this team.

790
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: Like it's like high Smith's at a disadvantage against Trent

791
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: Williams a week one.

792
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna get singled up in that game all

793
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: day long.

794
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: And he probably will get more or less neutralized. But

795
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: that's probably one of the only matchups where he's not

796
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 3: at least equal to the left tackle he's playing. Yeah,

797
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 3: you know, there's not many there's no Trump william But.

798
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: Are they gonna use Kittle to help block those.

799
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: Other four against whoever else? The Steelers rush greatly, favorite

800
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: greatly on. I mean like us Check's gonna be chipping

801
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: every time, or Kiddle or you know guys they want

802
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: to get into routes. Yeah, and the interior VERSEUS CAM

803
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: is ugly, Yeah, ugly ruddle.

804
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's it's very interesting. You know

805
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: they you need to keep TJ. Watt healthy, you need

806
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: to keep him growing. And if that means TJ. Watt

807
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 2: playing seventy five percent of the snaps this year instead

808
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: of eighty plus, I'm all for it.

809
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 3: I keep going back to Cam too, Like I want

810
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: these guys to rest a little more than they have.

811
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: I just I think Herbigs is such a speedball off

812
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: the edge that if he's only on the field five

813
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: to ten snaps per game.

814
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: You're gonna know it and you and you won't.

815
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: It's not like you're I'm playing TJ. Watt this week,

816
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 2: But I gotta watch out. I gotta look at watch

817
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: tape for this backup guy too. You're not gonna do that.

818
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: You watch TJ. Watt, You watch TJ. Wat or even

819
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: Highsmith for that man. Yeah, you know you're not going

820
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 3: to go that much study. And maybe you'll watch a

821
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 3: little here and there preseason.

822
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: Tape and then that, and then you see that get

823
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: off in the burst that he has. It's gonna it's

824
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: gonna get guys catch up by surprise. It happened in

825
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: the preseason every it didn't matter who he was going against.

826
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: I didn't think Jamir Jones or Reid were bad players,

827
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 3: but they were very nondescript when they were on the field. Yeah.

828
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: I don't think these backups will be I think we'll

829
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: know when they're out there.

830
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: Did you see Bri Baldinger put out a little video

831
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 2: montage of her big oh from the last preseason game,

832
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: and I'm watching I'm watching this stuff in live motion,

833
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: Like he's over here and he's rushing the passer and

834
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: then the ball comes out and the next thing you know,

835
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: he's crashing eight ten yards away. He's running down the

836
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: ball carrier from behind, like.

837
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 3: Making plays all stop. It doesn't stop at all. No,

838
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: he's really impressive. The only things so much positive with

839
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: that guy. I still see him go backwards against double

840
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: teams and stuff at times, which I don't care to be.

841
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: Very any two hundred and forty pound linebacker basically not

842
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: named TJ. Watt.

843
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he has a deal with Trent Williams in

844
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: the run game, he's gonna struggle, you know, but I

845
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: really don't care, you know what I mean.

846
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: Again, So situationally, again, if you were occupying Trent Williams,

847
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: you're doing a job.

848
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's that's like you're.

849
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: Locking him up and not letting him get to the

850
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: second level and get somebody else too, or put you

851
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: on your back, or put you on your back and

852
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: really open the whole up.

853
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I like it. So again, the Eagles might

854
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 3: be the only team just screening, you know, maybe the Cowboys,

855
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: but is there a position room that you would bet

856
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: on will get more sacks than the Steeler outside linebacker

857
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: edge guys, like a position room I would have did

858
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: we come.

859
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: Up with I'd have a hard time to come up with.

860
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty from one position room, one position coach. Pretty good.

861
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 3: I don't even know if the Eagles got there with

862
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: their edge guys last year.

863
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 2: Probably not.

864
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: I mean Reddick had a ton Sweat probably had his share,

865
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: and Graham had his share. But thirty's a lot.

866
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 2: Thirty Yeah, yeah, so I think it can be really good.

867
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: I think you know, they're probably you probably can't make

868
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: this bet, but if I had to, I mean, the

869
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: Steelers had led to SEX League in Sex five consecutive

870
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: seasons until last year, I'd be willing to, you know, bet.

871
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: That they're probably not the leader in the club out.

872
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: They'll be in the mix next this year, they'll be

873
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: in the in the running.

874
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: If we did the over under door number two game,

875
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: if I said they came in sixth in the league

876
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: in sacks, I'll go fis go fish. Yeah, how about fourth,

877
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: I'll take fourth.

878
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 2: What's the number though.

879
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 3: I don't care. Just it's fourth, okay, No, I mean

880
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 3: it's pretty good.

881
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 2: Fourth is good. Fourth pains You're probably over fifty.

882
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but either way, I mean, twenty eight teams are worse.

883
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: Right, people have to account for your pass rush.

884
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: It's one of the best.

885
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 2: Last year. I think they were sixteenth or something like that.

886
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 3: They Yeah, that sounds about right.

887
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: They were right in the middle of the pack, which

888
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: was I mean again, it was fifteen fewer sacks than

889
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: they had the previous season.

890
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: So no, I think it obviously we think it goes up,

891
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 3: but I think they'll be amongst.

892
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: The leaguers and that makes your secondary better. That makes

893
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: everything better, without question, raises all boats. Yeah, he is

894
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

895
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take another break.

896
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: We'll be back with more on the Drive right after this.

897
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

898
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

899
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

900
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson.

901
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: This is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. Matt I

902
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: mentioned that ESPN one Top one hundred.

903
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: You weren't impressed.

904
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: I was not impressed. This was their quote unquote experts.

905
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 2: They don't say who the experts were they call, Yeah,

906
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: they don't. They don't call him out by name here.

907
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: But let's just run down this list here real quick.

908
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: You can, you could tell me who you would disagree with,

909
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 2: because I know I do.

910
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 3: Not have Hayward even in the honorable mention is bonkers.

911
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: Bnker to me? Yeah, uh, getting to the bottom of

912
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 2: we go bottom? Well, as usual, we go bottomed up.

913
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: So Number one hundred is Trayvon Diggs.

914
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: No.

915
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: No. Ninety nine is DJ Moore, Yeah, questionable. Ninety eight

916
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: is Christian Wilkins.

917
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 3: I love Wilkins. I mean I like Hayward more than Wilkins,

918
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,479
Speaker 3: but Wilkins would probably be my top one.

919
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: Hundred ninety seven is von Miller. Sure, this is based there.

920
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: They're voting here is based on what they feel the

921
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: player is going to do this season.

922
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: I would hope it's what you think. They are right

923
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: to second.

924
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're twenty twenty three projection on von Miller's

925
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: twenty one tackles in five sacks. Oh wow, and you're

926
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: putting him at ninety seven.

927
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: There's also a chance he doesn't start a season on

928
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: the on the correct.

929
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: Ninety six is Matthew Judon. There is not a single

930
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: coach out there in the NFL who would take Matthew

931
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: Judon over Cam Hayward.

932
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: No. No, the fact that Judon's in the top one

933
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: hundred by itself, Okay, okay, I mean I can live

934
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: with that, But verse hit Cam on many of these,

935
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: I think that's gonna have the answer.

936
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 2: Ninety five is Joe Thuni sure. Ninety four is Kirk Cousins.

937
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: No, quarterbacks are way too high. There's always way too

938
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: many of them on these lists.

939
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: Ninety three is Marlon Humphrey.

940
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: Not recently, and he's hard to start to start right

941
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 3: now too right.

942
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 2: Ninety two Derrick Henry.

943
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't think he's declined his situation has.

944
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: Ninety one is Jared Flipping Golf.

945
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: No, come on, I don't even have Cousins ahead of GoF.

946
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: Ninety is Tyler Lockett.

947
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a big fan.

948
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: Eighty nine is Calvin Ridley.

949
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 3: I could buy that.

950
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 2: Eighty eight is Austin Ekelar.

951
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 3: Sure.

952
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: Eighty seven is for Shawn Slater.

953
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean didn't play last year, but really, really

954
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 3: really good player.

955
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: Eighty six is Keevon Thibodeau.

956
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: No, like Juda should be ahead of Thibodeau, and I

957
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: don't think you, but judn't should be on there. Tippoteau

958
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: to me could be a breakout guy, but yeah, let

959
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: me see a breakout first. Eight.

960
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Eighty five is Matt Mlano.

961
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: Good, he deserves that, not against Steetos though he was bad.

962
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: He was bad in the game. Eighty four is Javon Holland.

963
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: Might be a little premature, but I'm a fan. Yeah.

964
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: Eighty three aj Terrell.

965
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 3: I guess, but he's coming off of down here two.

966
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: Eighty two is Treique Woolen.

967
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: No, a little overrated, to be honest with you. The

968
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 3: couple of corners you mentioned I would put ahead of him.

969
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: Eighty one is Danielle Hunter.

970
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. Yeah, yeah, he's another one that's

971
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: gonna get triple teamed all the time now.

972
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 2: Eighty is Creed Humphrey.

973
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine.

974
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: Seventy nine is Joel Patonio.

975
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if Creed Humphrey was a bear.

976
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: Or a saintan you would know anything about.

977
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 3: Him, people would care as much, but fair enough.

978
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: Seventy nine Joel Patonio solid.

979
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: Fine.

980
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: Seventy eight Marshawn Lattimore very.

981
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: Up and down. He is the last corners are like

982
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 3: that though.

983
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: He's a name.

984
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

985
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: Only Seventy seven is Jason.

986
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 3: Kel's Okay, I think he should be the top centers.

987
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: Seventy six is Mike Evans really at this point in

988
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: Mike Evans's career.

989
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'd have Ridley and Lockett ahead of him.

990
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: This is the one I really had a problem with.

991
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: Seventy five is Eric Armstead.

992
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: Ooh, coming off a down year full of injuries. Good players.

993
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: He's twenty nine years old, so he's only a couple

994
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 2: years younger than Cam Heyward, and he has never been

995
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: at the same level, never, never at any point in

996
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: his career.

997
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: Like Hard Graves, a noticeably better player than him on

998
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 3: that team, you know, like he's he's the Robin.

999
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: Seventy four Toron Armstead.

1000
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: Okay, but durability is an issue. Seventy three is Ryan

1001
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: Ramsack solid, I'm cool with that. Seventy two Pina Seul, Yeah,

1002
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: he's climbing.

1003
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: Seventy one Darius Slay a little.

1004
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 3: Overrated too, because they're always have a lead and they

1005
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: always be d seventy sacks.

1006
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 2: Seventy is drawn pain sixty nine Justin Simmons A little pain, yeah.

1007
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: Sixty eight Tradavious White when mister Davius.

1008
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: Like, he had a bad year last year and.

1009
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: He hasn't had a good year in like three years.

1010
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: She missed all that year and he came back and

1011
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 3: he was not even close to the.

1012
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: Same sixty seven Aiden Hutchinson.

1013
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: No, I think he's really overrated too.

1014
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: This is what I really Sixty six is Orlando Brown Junior.

1015
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: That's bad?

1016
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

1017
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 3: Like you can't put him over Tron Armstead.

1018
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 2: No, I mean no, or Ryan Ramsay or yeah right,

1019
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: he might be the most overrated player in the league.

1020
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: I think he is. In the contract shows it.

1021
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: They even say that. So he ranked eighteenth and pass

1022
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 2: block win rate last year and he ranked uh where's

1023
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: it at here that his run block win rate wasn't

1024
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: much better? He was like middle of the.

1025
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: Pack back there out of thirty two.

1026
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: He's an average guy.

1027
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 3: He's just huge, and he was also on the show.

1028
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: He gets paid a lot, gets paid a lot. He

1029
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 3: moves around.

1030
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: Sixty five. Josh Jacobs fine sixty four Jonathan Allen.

1031
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 3: Yes, he's better than pay.

1032
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: Sixty three Chrystal Lave a little early, but I respect it.

1033
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 2: Uh sixty two the Forest Buckner.

1034
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, slight decline last year, but so did every cult.

1035
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: Sixty one a mon Ross Saint Brown, Okay, sixty is

1036
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: Derwin James, I guess. Fifty nine t Higgins.

1037
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: A little early for taking a little high for me

1038
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: for Higgins, but all right.

1039
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: Fifty eight is Jeffrey Simmons, okay. Fifty seven is Davonte Smith, okay,

1040
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 2: fifty six Andrew Thomas, Yeah. Fifty five is Rokwan Smith.

1041
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: Finished really strong. Let's see him to two years in

1042
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: a row, but okay.

1043
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: Fifty four Brian Burns okay. Fifty three Trey Hendrickson a

1044
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: lot of d Linemen. Fifty two Dk Metcalf.

1045
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: I would have him a little lower.

1046
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: Fifty one is Tristian Wurf's fine.

1047
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: It still makes me crazy they're going to ask him

1048
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 3: to play left tackle after being a you know, yeah,

1049
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: big time right guy.

1050
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: But fifty is Jaylen Waddell fair enough.

1051
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if I put him over Davante Smith. Yeah,

1052
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: they're all kind of same.

1053
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: Forty nine is Laramie Tunsel, Yes, forty eight is Dexter

1054
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: Lawrence absolutely, if not higher. Forty seven is Mark Andrews.

1055
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: We're getting a pretty good football players here. Yeah.

1056
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: Forty six is Avian Howard.

1057
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not sure he be in top hundred.

1058
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: No he shouldn't be. No, no, he should And when

1059
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: I said before the Steelers played them last year, every

1060
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 2: time I turned on tape of the Dolphins to watch

1061
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: them against previous couple of opponents, twenty five was running

1062
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: behind whatever receiver he was supposed to be covering. I'm like,

1063
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 2: who's twenty five and I look up, that's Avian Howard Star. Yeah,

1064
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: that's their star corner.

1065
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: He stinks speed is in his game anyway. Yeah, so

1066
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 3: he gets in the trail position or loses a step,

1067
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: it might not go great for him.

1068
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: Forty five is Tua Tago Vaileola.

1069
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 3: No, who's better, Kirk or Tua. Oh my god, it's

1070
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: probably Kirk. Yeah at this stage, that's way too high.

1071
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: Forty four Deebo Samuel.

1072
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 3: Also too high compared to some of the receivers they mentioned.

1073
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: Forty three is Garrett Wilson.

1074
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that.

1075
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: Forty two is Lane Johnson. Absolutely when he plays football.

1076
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

1077
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 2: Forty one Hassan Reddick.

1078
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 3: Little high, but I mean you have sixteen sacks last year.

1079
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: It deserves respect. Forty is Quinn Williams, Okay, I mean

1080
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: the Quinn Williams and Simmons. If they're over cam I

1081
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: get it.

1082
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: Thirty nine Saquon Barkley.

1083
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: He fell off a cliff at the end of last

1084
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: year too, by the way, little fantasy nugget.

1085
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: Thirty eight Dak Prescott.

1086
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean he's better than any of the quarterbacks they've mentioned,

1087
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: which implies to me that.

1088
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: Like arback are twelve, there are twelve quarterbacks on this

1089
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 2: top one hundred.

1090
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: They shouldn't all be in the top thirty.

1091
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: They should not be. Thirty seven is Mika Fitzpatrick.

1092
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: Safeties will never being the top ten, but at least

1093
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: he's number one, I assume. Thirty six Terry McLaurin, Okay,

1094
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 3: a little rich for him.

1095
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 2: Thirty five Max Crosby.

1096
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: I'm absolutely fine with that.

1097
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: Thirty four Patrick's certain, okay.

1098
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 3: I think he competes for best corner in the league.

1099
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: Twenty three Ced Lamb, Yeah. Thirty two Javon Hargrave.

1100
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: I don't have problem without either.

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00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: Thirty two I mean that's hot, that's pretty high.

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00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 3: That's pretty I wouldn't have him over Simmons.

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00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: He was not even ranked last year in their top

1104
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 2: one hundred, Like they had never heard of Javon Hargrave before, Like.

1105
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: He should be eighty and Cam should be sixty.

1106
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: Thirty one Zach Martin, Okay, thirty George Kittle.

1107
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. I mean the blocking helps for

1108
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 3: this situation.

1109
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 2: Twenty nine Aaron Rodgers.

1110
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: Who knows. I have no idea where I put I

1111
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 3: mean he had a bad year last year.

1112
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 2: Twenty eight is Trevor Lawrence Here we going to the quarterback.

1113
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: Territory years and comparing those two is really tough.

1114
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: Twenty seven Chris Jones.

1115
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: I think he's best defensive player in the year or

1116
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: second last year.

1117
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: Twenty six Nick Chubb Man, he's a star.

1118
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 3: I mean they were really splitting hairs on these guys.

1119
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: But twenty five Cooper Cup I don't know where you

1120
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: put him.

1121
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 3: I don't ever put him either.

1122
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 2: Twenty four JayR Alexander Yeah, uh. Twenty three was Fred Warner?

1123
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, best line back in the league.

1124
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: Twenty two Devonte Adams still a star, yeah. Twenty one

1125
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs.

1126
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I mean these are all the top guys. Yeah,

1127
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: the top's not hard. Put him in order to be hard.

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00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: But twenty Lamar Jackson.

1129
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, still deserve it. I'm not sure. Well, yeah, never mind.

1130
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: Nineteen is a J. Brown, putting a J. Brown ahead

1131
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: of all those other receivers.

1132
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: Not over Adams. Yeah, but boy, he's a force.

1133
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: Eighteen is Trent Williams seventeen Joey Bosa. That's too high

1134
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: for recent for a guy who doesn't play.

1135
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's too hard to count on.

1136
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: Sixteen is Tyreek Hill.

1137
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Tyreek Hill is the one that would

1138
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: fight Jefferson for number one receiver in the league.

1139
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: Fifteen is TJ Watt, I get it.

1140
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 3: I mean you're gonna ing these guys a little if

1141
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 3: a down.

1142
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: Year for whatever they haven't with some guys that was something, right.

1143
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner's at fourteen.

1144
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: I think TJ's better what he does than Sauce is.

1145
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: But Miles Garrett's at thirteen, I'm fine with that. Travis

1146
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: Kelsey at twelve. Then you get Justin Herbert at eleven,

1147
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey at ten, Nick Bose at nine, Aaron Donald

1148
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: at eight, Josh Allen seven, Micah Parsons six, Jamar Chase five,

1149
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow four, Jalen Hurts three Hurts ahead of that.

1150
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: I respect him because I was really hard on him

1151
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: early in his career and he's proven me wrong. But

1152
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: to put him with Burrow and Allen crazy, Come.

1153
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: On, man, Justin Jefferson two and then Patrick Mahomes won

1154
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: Jefferson two.

1155
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: I get he might be the best offensive non quarterback

1156
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 3: a lot of quarterbacks and none too many. I mean,

1157
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 3: I mean it was like fifty he wasn't he was

1158
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: like right, I mean that was crazy talk. That was

1159
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 3: maybe the one that hurt me the most. I'm surprised

1160
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: Justin Fields isn't on there. I think he was on

1161
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 3: the NFL dot Com Top one hundred.

1162
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, like at least the players voted on that one. Like, okay,

1163
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: I can, I get it. He's tough to play against it.

1164
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: He is, but boy, he may not either starting quarterback

1165
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: next year. He's not even like a fixed year as

1166
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 3: a starter yet.

1167
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was the ESPN Top one hundred list, as

1168
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: done by their quote unquote experts.

1169
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, any lists like that again.

1170
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward not mentioned anywhere on the list and then

1171
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: not even mentioned, and the guys who got snubbed.

1172
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 3: And I'm sure there's other names. If it was our

1173
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: hometown team would be like, how do you not have

1174
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: them on too? It's a hard list to make it.

1175
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: It really is that Cam should be on it.

1176
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 2: He should.

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00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 3: There should be three Steelers.

1178
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: Anyways, we're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lollett, you're listening to the drive here

1180
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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take a break. When

1181
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Speaker 2: we come back, it's time for the Fantasy Football Focus.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that right after this