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Speaker 1: Morning Show. All right, here we go. Interesting panel today.

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Speaker 1: I like it very much. I'll tell you why I'm here.

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Speaker 1: Scary's here, it's not Brodies here. Hello, Garrett is here,

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Speaker 1: and Nate is here. So what do we all have

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Speaker 1: So we need one brilliant woman to come in and

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Speaker 1: save us in this conversation. So the one and only

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Speaker 1: web girl Kathleen is here. She always brings class to

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Speaker 1: every room she walks into. Oh you're very kind. Yes,

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Speaker 1: if class, if class could be spread like glitter. You

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Speaker 1: glad you're here, Kathleen. What are you eating? It smells delicious,

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Speaker 1: So I'm eating some homemade soup with candellini beans. Awesome

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Speaker 1: This goes back to what Garrett is saying, we really

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be putting price tags on what you give versus

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Speaker 1: I want to always spend triple what you spend on me.

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Speaker 1: But you love everything that I ever bought. You're like,

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to be festive. We shouldn't be having all

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Speaker 1: the gift thing is turning into something. It's the whole science.

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Speaker 1: I need to know that she liked what she got,

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Speaker 1: and then I know whether I should overreact you. If

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Speaker 1: helping us out. Actually did help a lot of people today. Kathleen, Everyone,

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