Speaker 1: Welcome back Summer League twenty twenty three. Man, we got
Speaker 1: a guest today. They had to wait forty five minutes
Speaker 1: for his dry cleaning, so we.
Speaker 2: Started out, who care we did it now, But I
Speaker 2: want to welcome to this show. Man.
Speaker 1: I got a chance to see this this man grow.
Speaker 1: He was a couple of years younger for me, but
Speaker 1: out in LA I was at UCLA. He was in
Speaker 1: high school, always making waves. Came up to UCLA one
Speaker 1: day and I said, oh, he's not going to college.
Speaker 1: This kid's going to the pros. Welcome to the show, Tyson,
Speaker 1: chandlin Man, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you for some time.
Speaker 1: So y'all played together. Yeah, what was that like Charlotte?
Speaker 2: Yeah for me, for me it was great because I
Speaker 2: mean it was a chance for me to come into
Speaker 2: a leader role on the Charlotte team. I got traded there,
Speaker 2: you know, doing them doing the course of the season.
Speaker 2: But I think for all of us, we were guys
Speaker 2: that were still had bounced around a little bit, but
Speaker 2: we all had the same kind of like common goal.
Speaker 2: We all went hard. So we was able to get
Speaker 2: to the playoffs for the first time. It shot it
Speaker 2: together and have the number one defense in the league.
Speaker 2: Can't too many people say that. Very nice, very nice.
Speaker 2: Well current day.
Speaker 1: You joined the MAVs player development staff in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: working alongside God Sham God, you know obviously Jay Kidd,
Speaker 1: our guy Jared Dudley. What has that experience been like
Speaker 1: on the coaching side.
Speaker 3: Now, it's been great. It's a learning lesson. It's definitely
Speaker 3: an adjustment, you know, from playing and then learning how
Speaker 3: to like articulate your thoughts and things that you know,
Speaker 3: you learned along the years that came naturally, like trying
Speaker 3: to explain it to somebody, you know. So it's fun.
Speaker 3: It keeps me involved with the game. I honestly thought
Speaker 3: when I was done, I was like, hang them up,
Speaker 3: I'm out it right, And then, you know, I did
Speaker 3: that for a little while, but then I started to
Speaker 3: miss the game. I start to miss just being around guys,
Speaker 3: you know, in the camaraderie. Uh So, when j Kid
Speaker 3: got the job, hit me up and was like, listen,
Speaker 3: come on, I need you just just getting the building.
Speaker 3: That's dope.
Speaker 2: You was the anchor of the championship squad, come fuck
Speaker 2: with us.
Speaker 1: So did you ever see yourself coaching like I've been
Speaker 1: offered a couple of situations too. I just never saw
Speaker 1: myself in it. Have you did you see yourself possibly
Speaker 1: one day?
Speaker 2: No, no, not.
Speaker 4: At all, not at all.
Speaker 3: You know it and even you know when yourself was like,
Speaker 3: just let me come in, just get a feel and
Speaker 3: see what this says. You know, coaching is a dedication.
Speaker 3: They spend a lot of hours, like you know, more
Speaker 3: than more than any players turning off as players, Like
Speaker 3: you know, they're constantly working on the next thing, film,
Speaker 3: you know, breaking down things.
Speaker 4: It's just it's twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit about Derek Lively?
Speaker 1: You guys took him twelve overall all, what have you
Speaker 1: liked so far about him? He's active, very athletic, young kid.
Speaker 1: Reminds me of myself a lot.
Speaker 3: Like reminds me of the funny thing Jason when he
Speaker 3: uh I came to the gym the day after he
Speaker 3: had the workout pre draft workout and Jak was like, man,
Speaker 3: I wish you the king yesterday. He was like, there's
Speaker 3: a kid that they were thinking about taking. That reminds
Speaker 3: me a lot of like you. He's like and not
Speaker 3: just because he likes skin, but I started busting him.
Speaker 3: He's like, he got a lot of the same attributes
Speaker 3: and uh. And then so as the draft was coming along,
Speaker 3: then I watched a little bit of tape and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: they get this kid, It'll give me something.
Speaker 4: To do, like a real a project to work on.
Speaker 3: So I'm watching the draft and that's that draft is
Speaker 3: unfold and I'm like, they're gonna take this kid. And
Speaker 3: then they take him.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Then you know, I get to meet him and stuff,
Speaker 3: and he's a great, great dude. They definitely definitely needed.
Speaker 3: That's that's always been the missing key for the match,
Speaker 3: you know. And so I'm trying to get him right.
Speaker 3: He wants to learn active, you know, and right now
Speaker 3: you know he's sponge, So that's dope.
Speaker 2: What are the expectations looking like?
Speaker 1: Obviously, you guys moved a lot to get Kyrie. You
Speaker 1: were able to resign Curry which was a huge move.
Speaker 1: Also picked up Grant Williams that was big, huge piece
Speaker 1: and seth Curry on top of that. You know obviously
Speaker 1: have Lively as well. So you know, what are expectations
Speaker 1: for this team this year? I mean, you guys, are
Speaker 1: you know, Luca arguably one of the greatest players in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 2: Got Kai back.
Speaker 1: You guys have put some new pieces around on the
Speaker 1: defensive side as well, So I.
Speaker 3: Think the unit is like way more balanced now and
Speaker 3: I think they got a shot to be in the
Speaker 3: mix now.
Speaker 4: Like you said, Williams is a huge piece because you need.
Speaker 3: That type of good guy, come with that type of energy,
Speaker 3: real professional. Kai and Luca are two of the most
Speaker 3: talented players that you know on this planet. So just
Speaker 3: I love the pieces that they put around them because
Speaker 3: that's what they that's what they were missing last year.
Speaker 3: You got to have those pieces that bring together team,
Speaker 3: and so you know they have those, but I got
Speaker 3: to see you know how.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go back to the upbringing. Compton. Where exactly
Speaker 4: did you grow up?
Speaker 3: I actually was in Hamford, then sam Malandino, then Compton.
Speaker 4: What's Hamford?
Speaker 3: Hamford, California is like a farm in town I grew
Speaker 3: up on like a farm.
Speaker 5: I would never expect that everybody.
Speaker 2: Like, especially because Tans have that curl to.
Speaker 1: L a curling him, you lose, you lose.
Speaker 4: Jason Thomas, the cold curl lose slow. I came front
Speaker 4: used to get a little you know.
Speaker 1: Not christ like wavy though Yeah, my ship didn't get
Speaker 1: I didn't do Curly until like a couple of years
Speaker 1: in and then it changed my trajectory of my family show.
Speaker 4: Yeah what one girl.
Speaker 3: But it was I feel like I had a great
Speaker 3: upbringing that made me, you know, made me who I am, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, made me tough, you know, and then going
Speaker 3: uh you know, being and Compton, uh and you know
Speaker 3: playing there and uh, you know, representing you you have to.
Speaker 3: So it was it was a great time. You know,
Speaker 3: had a lot of lives. You went through a lot though.
Speaker 2: Sophomore year, junior year, you were crash on your homeless couch,
Speaker 2: homeless basically homeless. Talk about being able to deal with
Speaker 2: that as a youngster, but also you know, understanding where
Speaker 2: you wanted to go and not get caught up and
Speaker 2: everything around us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know how hard that is. Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, during that time, Uh yeah, my junior year, I
Speaker 3: was sleeping on college is and uh a sophomore I
Speaker 3: think sophomore jinior and yeah, I was just trying to
Speaker 3: stay locked in on like where I know I was
Speaker 3: trying to get uh because you're right, you're getting pulled
Speaker 3: and everything. And there's plenty of cases where my life
Speaker 3: could have really turned different because I was in different places,
Speaker 3: Like for things was going down and like my life
Speaker 3: could have went in a different direction. But I thank God,
Speaker 3: you know, always like stay in the right direction. And
Speaker 3: even those around me, you know, always understood where I
Speaker 3: was at, you know, And I appreciate them too because
Speaker 3: you know, they always made sure I was on the
Speaker 3: right path. So anything that was ever going down or whatever,
Speaker 3: they're like, yo.
Speaker 4: You need to be here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that you know, I still got love for
Speaker 4: that today. Yeah. Comptent, legendary, legendary, I know all about them.
Speaker 2: How was the hoops saying to talk about coming up,
Speaker 2: you know in that era because basketball was high school
Speaker 2: basketball was different when we was coming up.
Speaker 4: I'm saying Comptent to Megas is one of those schools.
Speaker 2: Talk about that experience of you know, growing up with
Speaker 2: comptent and playing with competent Megaz with all those school
Speaker 2: legends that you play with.
Speaker 3: I think the the difference back then is like it
Speaker 3: was like myths, Like anytime you heard about a player,
Speaker 3: I heard about the school you it was talking. It
Speaker 3: was no like YouTube or something like that. A chance
Speaker 3: to see the build it up, you know, in your
Speaker 3: head or whatever. And so for us, we built that
Speaker 3: up too because we know everybody felt about us. So
Speaker 3: I mean we walk in the gyms, we walk in
Speaker 3: hoodie deep.
Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's like like we're gonna We're gonna win either to
Speaker 3: fight or the game.
Speaker 4: So what is gonna be?
Speaker 3: And we came in with that type of mentality and uh,
Speaker 3: I mean it was a hell of an era.
Speaker 2: Tommy Prince, Jason Thomas term. Yeah, the most dropped name
Speaker 2: ever was all the smoke term turn. But what was
Speaker 2: talking about? We gotta got this our term segment?
Speaker 4: What was term? Game like? Turn?
Speaker 3: Terms nice? Nice point guard? Like your term is gritty.
Speaker 1: I call him ten day term now because you swear
Speaker 1: the Lakers go.
Speaker 2: But he's doing more gang banging in the video and
Speaker 2: they're playing.
Speaker 1: Basketball, Like he can't just cuss everybody. He cuss when
Speaker 1: he make a shot.
Speaker 2: Time will come back and play pickups and start fights.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't call here no more.
Speaker 3: We get somebody new from another income term banging up.
Speaker 1: This is our team, turn right, This is our team,
Speaker 1: our team messing, our team graduated four years ago.
Speaker 3: But it was I mean, you know, Tay like you
Speaker 3: said Jason Thomas. I got a chance to watch I
Speaker 3: didn't play with Kenny art team, but I got a
Speaker 3: chance to watch him before I came in, and that's
Speaker 3: really what made me want to go there.
Speaker 4: You know, the culture there.
Speaker 3: T was like the most clean cut out of them all,
Speaker 3: and he kind of like, you know, set the tone
Speaker 3: of how to get to the McDonald's, all American, how
Speaker 3: to all of that. So I knew that I wanted
Speaker 3: to go to the league from high school. Yeah, from
Speaker 3: high school, So I knew whatever Tay did, like he was,
Speaker 3: he was like at the top of the top and
Speaker 3: going to college was like whatever he did, I got
Speaker 3: a count of surpassed nothing. So he said, like a
Speaker 3: great bar for me.
Speaker 1: You had like a legendary was it junior high or
Speaker 1: freshman year? Like a sixty minute interview?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Talk to us about that because there was talks. I
Speaker 1: mean obviously it was talks. But you going to the
Speaker 1: league at it was it freshman year out of high school?
Speaker 4: Give me ahead?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, y'all doing sixty minutes was on Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 6: I'm like I should have damn.
Speaker 1: It's good talk to us about what you know. Obviously,
Speaker 1: what that was like, and then you know that's that
Speaker 1: that's a huge platform at it early.
Speaker 3: Was honestly, I didn't. I did not know what I
Speaker 3: was like actually doing. They said sixty minutes, I wanted
Speaker 3: to do a piece. I just thought it was like
Speaker 3: a news channel. I didn't realize the magnitude of what
Speaker 3: it was going to do, because after that, I was like,
Speaker 3: I got I got a target on my back. Different,
Speaker 3: it's different, like you know, especially like they put that
Speaker 3: target on, labeling you that dude. Everybody's shooting for you now.
Speaker 3: And I didn't I didn't realize that I was. At first,
Speaker 3: it was so exciting having cameras following me and stuff.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, like you know, I'm that dude,
Speaker 3: and the until you got to be that dude, and
Speaker 3: then I was like almost embarrassed by and like embarrassed
Speaker 3: ball and not aloriety that was coming to the kid. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. So it's like I'm battling all
Speaker 3: of these things at the time, and you know how
Speaker 3: it is where you know, in the in the hook game,
Speaker 3: where you got all of the voters and everybody that's
Speaker 3: around that, you know, see where you're going and everybody
Speaker 3: trying to have a you know, a piece or be
Speaker 3: the person to direct you and this and that. But
Speaker 3: after that, it's like, yeah, it opened my name up
Speaker 3: to the world. So everybody figured I was the next one.
Speaker 3: So then it was like I had to deal with
Speaker 3: more than I was already dealing with.
Speaker 2: David Hamilton aka Supercrypt talk about Supercrypt. I got a
Speaker 2: story about Supercrypt.
Speaker 3: He talked about him, so so my uh so again,
Speaker 3: so I'm coming to high school.
Speaker 4: I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't know. I didn't know who super Crip was.
Speaker 3: I didn't know nothing about h I'm playing against him
Speaker 3: and he was a big athletic dude, right and we're going,
Speaker 3: we're going at it or whatever.
Speaker 4: Like he hit me hard. I hit him hard.
Speaker 3: Uh I want to say, like he put he put
Speaker 3: his uh elbow or something like that and was like,
Speaker 3: don't move it. I'm like what, So I hit it
Speaker 3: down and then were playing. So then I come to
Speaker 3: then after the game, coach was like, see I like
Speaker 3: that resting the pumps.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 3: He's like you didn't. He's like, you didn't back down
Speaker 3: from Supercrip at all. I was like, who I'm like,
Speaker 3: who is like this the dude like you know what
Speaker 3: you knowing from?
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, what a name?
Speaker 3: Like super Crip already know what he knows what he's about.
Speaker 3: And after that, the funny thing he came up was
Speaker 3: like hey, I got respect for you, and they like
Speaker 3: dap me up and all that and it's but it's funniest.
Speaker 3: I had no cluf. That was cool as hell the
Speaker 3: whole time.
Speaker 1: So we played in the he was my age, so
Speaker 1: two years older than you. Yes, So we played in
Speaker 1: the Magic Johnson Round ball game and this dude got shot.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a day before, but
Speaker 1: maybe two days before.
Speaker 3: A couple of days before he got shot. I want
Speaker 3: to say it was like the game was like a
Speaker 3: Friday or Saturday. Got shot that Tuesday and Wednesday and
Speaker 3: played in the game. Yeah shot where though, yeah late man.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: Man reason, ye know so so, but he was nice
Speaker 1: to He went to Auburn for a minute. I just
Speaker 1: started falling him on Instagram. I found that maybe a
Speaker 1: couple of months ago and started following this good Yeah
Speaker 1: I d m it real quick.
Speaker 2: But he's still no I don't think so.
Speaker 5: Forties.
Speaker 1: Yeah he might have let that rest. But yeah, shout
Speaker 1: out David Hamilton, Man, dude, real good dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, so you say you end going straight to
Speaker 4: the pole.
Speaker 2: You say KG was your idel growing up, But do
Speaker 2: you know KG get a lot of his swag from
Speaker 2: J Max McCoy. He was the original get that ship
Speaker 2: out of here no rebounds.
Speaker 3: Already know, I know, I just didn't know that story. Yeah, players, man,
Speaker 3: He's the reason why I dunk the way I don't. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: exactly exactly. I've seen old highlights of him, like when
Speaker 3: I because when I similar. Yeah, yeah, so you got
Speaker 3: like you know, you always find similar people and then
Speaker 3: especially wh they're doing it at a high level and
Speaker 3: you try to model it pieces every light skin.
Speaker 4: I guess we athletics.
Speaker 2: Talk talk about idolizing KG though, like KG is a
Speaker 2: part of our family. We all know, you know, one
Speaker 2: of the one of the Hall of Famers, one of
Speaker 2: the best power for us ever played the game.
Speaker 4: How did he motivate you? What did you idolize about KG?
Speaker 3: Just respected the way he approached the game, his intensity.
Speaker 3: I love the way he played the game, always admired
Speaker 3: and just like that's what I tried to pattern after
Speaker 3: because I felt like he never he never cut the
Speaker 3: game short, like you know, no matter what, like he
Speaker 3: Caane showed up and whenever I played against when I
Speaker 3: got to the league, he still didn't disappoint like he
Speaker 3: brought it every single night, you know. And that's what
Speaker 3: I've always respected about them, respect to this day, and
Speaker 3: I respect players like that that I felt like really
Speaker 3: pushed the needle or the game like he's one of
Speaker 3: them players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think going out of high school come back
Speaker 2: into time zone.
Speaker 3: I hope so, especially now with all of the rule changes,
Speaker 3: you know now that that athletes are making money, making
Speaker 3: money in school out to me and giving other opportunities
Speaker 3: not just it's not just you either got to go
Speaker 3: to college or you know, when he took it away,
Speaker 3: it was either overseas or.
Speaker 4: Won and done.
Speaker 3: You know, I hope they give our athletes because also
Speaker 3: we're starting to get passed up right by the Europeans. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if they don't do something like it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: European I know they want a world game, right, which
Speaker 3: is great, but we need to allow our athletes the
Speaker 3: same type of platform and the same opportunities that they're
Speaker 3: allowing to you know across the world.
Speaker 4: Exactly, and it never makes sense to us.
Speaker 2: You can go to war at eighteen, but you can't
Speaker 2: take care of your family, team player, sport.
Speaker 4: It's crazy. That don't make me dumb.
Speaker 3: Ship and to be to even try to take away,
Speaker 3: you know, opportunity to be able to provide for your family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah in its own right, just just
Speaker 2: that it's crazy. You know what that is crazy because
Speaker 2: you can go work in McDonald's, yeah, but you can't.
Speaker 4: Go to anyway right, Ye don't make sense.
Speaker 1: You know what Kelsey said, who was in that room
Speaker 1: for representation right there talking about to ship?
Speaker 4: But who?
Speaker 2: But who mostly benefits from kids coming out of high
Speaker 2: school us?
Speaker 4: Yes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So anything to negate from getting the head, they're gonna
Speaker 2: fuck with it.
Speaker 4: Bastards.
Speaker 2: Uh Kobe any Kobe stores Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So during the during the Olympics, I want you,
Speaker 4: I know you got a story for me and Charlotte too,
Speaker 4: so I.
Speaker 3: Probably crazy stories. So we're at the uh, we're at
Speaker 3: the Olympics and we're going uh. I would always uh
Speaker 3: me and kobd like sitting next to each telling the bus.
Speaker 3: So we're getting off and we're going in the Olympic
Speaker 3: village or whatever they had like uh, they had something
Speaker 3: for us to do there or whatever. And then so
Speaker 3: we're going and then it's like uh and Kobe was like,
Speaker 3: I mean the Star of Stars Like he was like that, dude.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's the US A team and
Speaker 3: it's built through stars. And but Kobe was at a
Speaker 3: different level no matter where we went, like literally, I
Speaker 3: never seen anything like that. And so so but we're going,
Speaker 3: we go into the Olympic village and then there's all
Speaker 3: these athletes walking around or whatever, and so we're walking
Speaker 3: around for a while. We might be there for I
Speaker 3: don't know, thirty four five minutes. Cope was like, man,
Speaker 3: he's sitting there and he's like getting quiet and getting
Speaker 3: fidgety and Nancy and I'm like, I was like call him.
Speaker 3: Kill was like, what's up, Killer, what's up with you?
Speaker 3: He's like, man, I got to get out of here.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I was like what He was like, I can't be
Speaker 3: all these these fucking athletes come my fucking blood bowling.
Speaker 3: I don't want these motherfuckers around me. Until I got
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 2: Him, I was like it was supposed to be like
Speaker 2: a whole like you know, festival thing or everybody's in
Speaker 2: there said. I was like, bro, I don't know where
Speaker 2: you're at right now till the festival, man like, cause.
Speaker 4: Was always go mode. Always.
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I'm like they're coming up asking for
Speaker 3: autographs and pictures and all the love.
Speaker 4: I don't fuck the athletes.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's why I love him exactly, That's
Speaker 2: why we love him. Killing It was like because he was, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: to be so great with that attitude, Bro, that's why
Speaker 2: we love man.
Speaker 3: And this is like this was at the end, close
Speaker 3: to the end, and he still was like that.
Speaker 2: Pre draft process, how many teams did you work out for?
Speaker 2: I think I worked out for like six or seven.
Speaker 2: Where did you think you were going? I thought I was.
Speaker 3: Originally I had me slided to Golden State, and then
Speaker 3: after I worked out for the Clippers, they had the
Speaker 3: number two pick. I thought I was going to the Clippers,
Speaker 3: so I was hyped about it. Back man, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be at the crib. I'might going from do Mingus to
Speaker 3: the Clippers. And then they had d Miles.
Speaker 4: Had that young team. I was like, we're about to
Speaker 4: be exciting.
Speaker 3: Like we're about to, you know, turn the city upside down.
Speaker 3: I was hyped by that. And then you know, to
Speaker 3: get traded, uh, to get traded during the draft and
Speaker 3: then after go to Chicago.
Speaker 4: I was sick at first.
Speaker 1: So they first and that you go number two, after
Speaker 1: Kwame Brown goes one to Washington, you go to to
Speaker 1: the Clippers.
Speaker 2: What's that initial?
Speaker 1: Tyson Chandler Los Angeles Clipper, what's that feeling like for
Speaker 1: you and your family?
Speaker 3: Man lived that part, man, I thought I was gonna
Speaker 3: like pass out, honestly likes because the Clippers told me
Speaker 3: they were gonna take me. So after my workout, they
Speaker 3: were like, what you want there at too? That's what
Speaker 3: I wanted. It was like if you had too we
Speaker 3: were taking. I was like, oh, hey, I'm thinking I
Speaker 3: don't need to work out for nobody else then no,
Speaker 3: I'll work out, you know.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: So then like David Stern is up there and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm holding if you watch the find like, I'm like
Speaker 3: you can see me like gasps and like put my
Speaker 3: head down. Like after he said my name, because I
Speaker 3: was holding my breath and he said my name, I
Speaker 3: was like like thank God. And you know It's like
Speaker 3: it's that's a real feeling of you know, we've all
Speaker 3: watched this, you know, like your entire youth upbringing. You
Speaker 3: watch all the draft, you see all the new talent
Speaker 3: coming in, and you wish it. You you play it
Speaker 3: out in your head, you dream it. So then to
Speaker 3: be up on the stage and shaking David Stern hand
Speaker 3: was just surreal, like you're looking out in the crowd
Speaker 3: now like I always see this from my TV.
Speaker 4: This is what it looks like a minute now, Yeah, like, damn,
Speaker 4: this is what it is.
Speaker 3: So I feel like every one of those moments that
Speaker 3: I was able to accomplish in the league, it's like
Speaker 3: that was it, Like same thing when I want a chip.
Speaker 3: It was like getting on the stage was like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: this is what all them is always saying like this
Speaker 3: is what it is from because you watch it from TV,
Speaker 3: you tell you able to experience it. So when every
Speaker 3: experience is just like out of body.
Speaker 2: Experience, so your heart drops. You get traded to Chicago
Speaker 2: said you felt sick for a little bit, but you're
Speaker 2: there with a young Eddie Curry. You guys are labeled
Speaker 2: the next Twin Towers. How good was Eddie man. Eddie
Speaker 2: was good as shit.
Speaker 3: Eddie, Like people don't understand Eddie was very talented, big
Speaker 3: and strong man. Eddie was that big and could do
Speaker 3: a backflip.
Speaker 2: Like it was like draft the year before.
Speaker 3: SA Chicago had the fourth pick and then they traded
Speaker 3: Elton Brand for you for me and swapped with the clip.
Speaker 3: That's how it ended up in cookies like swapped to
Speaker 3: our second pick or whatever. And me and Eddie didn't
Speaker 3: like each other for no reason except for on someone
Speaker 3: who's just being pitted against each other and ranked and
Speaker 3: da da da day. So I remember when I got there,
Speaker 3: we had the most awkward like like uh pre.
Speaker 4: Uh press conference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we in in the training room and like
Speaker 3: I'm here, he might be like six feet away from me,
Speaker 3: and neither one of us are looking at each other.
Speaker 3: We're just like like eminent man, like exactly.
Speaker 2: And then and then we're gonna do the interview or whatever,
Speaker 2: and then we come out.
Speaker 3: We still didn't. It's just like we're just like hey,
Speaker 3: you know, like I'll see you in a week or so.
Speaker 3: We had training camp and then once we start like
Speaker 3: being around in each other more and meet each other's families,
Speaker 3: like like I fell in love with dude. A great dude,
Speaker 3: great heart. But I mean he was a beast, like
Speaker 3: a BA soft touch, shoot the ball, like heft toes
Speaker 3: like three hundred and something pounds. It was like it was,
Speaker 3: it was. It was crazy how talented he was. He
Speaker 3: probably was the most talented player in our draft, to
Speaker 3: be honest, like, just coming in.
Speaker 2: Who are some of your vets?
Speaker 1: You leaned on early on in Chicago, Big oak Big
Speaker 1: He slap anybody in front of.
Speaker 3: You, absolutely several people, several people, and he would be
Speaker 3: always make me man. He he was like wrong or
Speaker 3: call me young fella. I didn't know what he was doing, like,
Speaker 3: I'm just I got to do everything, OK. And he
Speaker 3: called and smacked somebody like I'm like I want to
Speaker 3: be behind, Like I'm not involved with any of this.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell he said. I'm sorry
Speaker 4: like for whatever he's like. But I was like, OK,
Speaker 4: maybe roll with him.
Speaker 3: I love oak Man was like the best vet man,
Speaker 3: the best vet. Well, yeah, he would rough me up too,
Speaker 3: like yeah, we'd be like because I remember we were
Speaker 3: in we were in and We're in film and I'm
Speaker 3: sitting in the front and he would always talk to you,
Speaker 3: to me and Eddie like all the time. He's always
Speaker 3: had something to say. He would make he would make
Speaker 3: me and Eddie like the TV is right here.
Speaker 4: He would make us sit right there, get closer to.
Speaker 2: The niggas just a bully.
Speaker 5: Still like that.
Speaker 3: I remember, Uh he was like, uh he said something
Speaker 3: in film like uh. He was like something, I'm smack
Speaker 3: you too or something. I was like, you're not gonna
Speaker 3: just smack and I was like, you might win, but
Speaker 3: you ain't gonna smack me without a fight.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: And he was like all right, all right, well all right,
Speaker 3: and uh so the car was the coach And as
Speaker 3: soon as I said that car.
Speaker 4: Was like, all right, film's over, I was like, you
Speaker 4: don't want to make.
Speaker 3: Because he wanted man, so everybody, uh walk out him.
Speaker 1: Like it's like after school fight in high school.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: No, he waited, Yeah, you gotta walk outside the stairs
Speaker 2: like we're in the film room, and uh you had
Speaker 2: to walk up to.
Speaker 3: The stairs or whatever. And then we get up to
Speaker 3: the stairs and then we just started tussling and I'm
Speaker 3: trying to he's strong ship. We follow rolling back and forth.
Speaker 3: He tossed me, I'll come back into the training room
Speaker 3: back cut up was like what happened? I was like
Speaker 3: me and Oaku's wrestling and then going to practice, well
Speaker 3: was crazy.
Speaker 4: He was gone.
Speaker 2: He was when he came when he squat up on
Speaker 2: Joe Wallace, I think he was gone already.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah. I heard about that.
Speaker 4: I heard about he.
Speaker 2: Was a coach, that he was a coach. Did he
Speaker 2: was a coach, but he was like but with but
Speaker 2: with me eighty and like it was on some like
Speaker 2: it was big brother.
Speaker 3: It was like like and I'm telling the story, like
Speaker 3: just like that Oakre was like my big brother.
Speaker 2: He was, and he got into it with Joe because
Speaker 2: he was you know, they were trying to change the
Speaker 2: vibe him and coach Slas. Yeah, just just trying to
Speaker 2: change the mold of the team to you know, get
Speaker 2: to like a winning aspect. And guys used to have
Speaker 2: towers on the head, right, So yeah, Jerald always like
Speaker 2: that tripping Jay. Jared Wallis put the tie on his
Speaker 2: next because he had long dreads and he didn't want
Speaker 2: to sweat no the right so he told him for
Speaker 2: the game, like we're not doing none of that. We
Speaker 2: gonna look professional so Jerild did it. You know Gerard
Speaker 2: franchise playing. He yan't get off Jail next Jigga's house
Speaker 2: and throw it at like we ain't doing that.
Speaker 4: I told you ain't doing that.
Speaker 2: So you know, Jero, they gambled together all the time,
Speaker 2: so Jail like, nah, put it back on. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: see you at the game. And I told you not
Speaker 2: to do it. All right, remember that one two, three
Speaker 2: Bobcats coaches walk out. All you see is oh, bigger
Speaker 2: you turn right back in front of Jail Wallers. Now
Speaker 2: didn't I say, I was gonna slap you, still right
Speaker 2: in front of and Jeriel didn't get up. He's standing.
Speaker 4: I had to. I stood.
Speaker 2: I say, oh, you are a coach now you can.
Speaker 2: Please don't slap Jeril Wallers. Please don't do it.
Speaker 4: You know, Joe, don't get up and fight. But oh
Speaker 4: you're a coach now you can't. He's looking at me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm just I ain't never begged nobody
Speaker 2: like I begged him not.
Speaker 4: To slap Jim water him.
Speaker 2: I say, please, dog, just you a coach now you
Speaker 2: can't do it. But oh minute though Paul Silas jacked
Speaker 2: up Tyres Thomas put hands on him. Did he rest
Speaker 2: in peace? O? G. Tyres got slick with him on
Speaker 2: the bench, you know what I'm saying. He came back
Speaker 2: in the locker, he was talking and Tyren's still going
Speaker 2: so he just ran up on tires and kind of.
Speaker 4: Cholage. You just jumped quick like you know.
Speaker 3: How well that was a funny team that old school
Speaker 3: league would always be because it wasn't nothing like the
Speaker 3: fights was just fights. And then I was like, you
Speaker 3: move on.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and six, you get traded to the Hornets.
Speaker 4: Of course.
Speaker 2: Your first year the team is an okay, see because
Speaker 2: of Katrina.
Speaker 4: How was that it was? It was? It was I
Speaker 4: was happy we were there.
Speaker 3: It was a tough trends because the city was still
Speaker 3: you know, the city was still struggling trying to get back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were able.
Speaker 3: To do a lot, like you know, in the community,
Speaker 3: which was great and to try to you know, help
Speaker 3: help the process. And we also like it was it
Speaker 3: was great that our team was good, you know, because
Speaker 3: it gave people in the city outlet somewhere to go,
Speaker 3: some hope, you know, and uh and then connecting with
Speaker 3: CP you know, and and creating that connection I really
Speaker 3: felt like I got into the league when I went there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt like, Okay.
Speaker 3: This is what the league should be like, right, you know,
Speaker 3: before like my first five I was like, I mean
Speaker 3: the turnover. I had five coaches in my five years
Speaker 3: in Chicago, two gms. There was only like four or
Speaker 3: five players that would stay every year. They would always
Speaker 3: trade everybody and you know, and turn over the roster.
Speaker 3: And then when I got to to UH, when I
Speaker 3: got to the Hornets, be Scott bar and Scott was
Speaker 3: the coach and he was like, look forget about all that,
Speaker 3: Like I know you could hoop. I watched you growing up,
Speaker 3: like I want you to get back to that. Uh
Speaker 3: and UH. And then the young point guard and see
Speaker 3: people's coming off of his rookie year, coming into his
Speaker 3: second year, and then me and him just formed the
Speaker 3: connection and like finally that live happened because we was arguing.
Speaker 2: He kept h.
Speaker 3: He kept throwing me the UH. Well he was either
Speaker 3: a bounced by or a low pass, and I got
Speaker 3: I got fouled, and then I was going through it.
Speaker 3: I wasn't shooting good. Uh, I didn't have a good
Speaker 3: free I wasn't shooting good at the line. So I
Speaker 3: can't remember, but I wasn't shooting at the line and
Speaker 3: I got filed and I was like, throw the ball up,
Speaker 3: and then he was like, uh. He was like, well,
Speaker 3: if you dunk the fucker, you ain't got worry about
Speaker 3: shooting free throws. I was like, I will dunk if
Speaker 3: you stop throwing sh it down to my knees. He
Speaker 3: was like, all right, next one, I'm gona throw up then,
Speaker 3: and the next one he threw up, and I dunked.
Speaker 2: That shot was like keep throwing it up. And that's
Speaker 2: how that ship became that it was deadly that How
Speaker 2: easy was them buckets? She was getting fucking with CP
Speaker 2: on the pick and rolls? Easy?
Speaker 3: Simple, turn the game simple. I mean, it was a
Speaker 3: It was a nice connection. It was a very nice connection.
Speaker 3: We could read each other. It was like playing a
Speaker 3: video game.
Speaker 2: How good was he?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 3: Man, Cep is good. CP is like extremely good. He
Speaker 3: sees the game too smart. But Cep so like he
Speaker 3: sees the game ahead. He could tell you what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: As he's saying that, he could set up plays like
Speaker 3: I would get like I would have like whatever rebounds
Speaker 3: I might have fourteen rebounds in eight points at the
Speaker 3: end of the game, like tell somebody to get your
Speaker 3: dumb all right, uh do this, do this, do this,
Speaker 3: d d I'm throwing it up. You'd be right there
Speaker 3: like I do what he said and then boom show
Speaker 3: like right there, like he can he can get anybody
Speaker 3: a bucket, like when he wanted to get somebody a bucket,
Speaker 3: and you know, manipulating the game.
Speaker 1: I think he gets a bad rep, you know, because
Speaker 1: I play the handful of yearsm you did, and when
Speaker 1: you get those arguments, it's not that he He's just
Speaker 1: an old school dude.
Speaker 2: So he's straight to you. He's nothing bullshit.
Speaker 1: And people if you soft or not soft, if you
Speaker 1: just not, you are competit. So yeah, it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: But I mean to me, he wants to win. He's
Speaker 1: a leader, yes, and great to play with. It will
Speaker 1: get you a bucket.
Speaker 4: I agree. I could ride with anybody.
Speaker 3: See I never had a problem with because I knew
Speaker 3: like he wants to win.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: Like I could ride with anybody that's putting in the
Speaker 3: work like that and challenge. It's not like he wasn't
Speaker 3: putting work and challenging. He putting in work and just
Speaker 3: challenging the right he has a right to challenge you,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like great players are going
Speaker 3: to do that because he's trying to take it to
Speaker 3: another He want to win, and that's that's like cpso
Speaker 3: thing is like, you know, even the dirty stuff he
Speaker 3: did or whatever, it's like Ceep is a competitor. He's
Speaker 3: one of the best competitors that this game has had. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, and everybody don't take it the right way,
Speaker 3: but you know, if you can appreciate the competitor, you
Speaker 3: appreciate the game, then you appreciate him.
Speaker 4: To y'all went fifty six games, PAIGEA.
Speaker 2: Bonds, David westbo Pete lost to the Spurs in seventy
Speaker 2: round two. What was the best memories of that year?
Speaker 2: You know, that's that was one of my funnest years,
Speaker 2: even though you know we lost Theratoris.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just a fun pure year.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we knew Orleans, Like I remember even after we
Speaker 3: did our exit meetings, like we brung it in and
Speaker 3: was like I can't remember our champ but we brung
Speaker 3: it in, like we we knew this team probably wasn't
Speaker 3: gonna be together and it was just like great chemistry
Speaker 3: and a lot of love, like like we got the
Speaker 3: most out of what we can get, and it's like
Speaker 3: we lost to a better team, like you know, and
Speaker 3: it just was what it was. But it was like
Speaker 3: it was such a great unit. It was like a family,
Speaker 3: and especially what New Orleans was going through at that time,
Speaker 3: it really bought it really brought us together and it
Speaker 3: felt like a family.
Speaker 4: Then what does that team rake in terms of most
Speaker 4: talented you.
Speaker 3: It probably is like the third most talented team that
Speaker 3: I've been on, Dallas.
Speaker 4: Dallas was the best.
Speaker 3: Uh, the Knicks will be second with Mellow and Yeah
Speaker 3: and Ja Kid and Raymond and Sean and j R.
Speaker 4: Novak and everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah that that that well, next tape exactly like like that,
Speaker 3: you know the King like that. That was a real yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah we had like that was a fun time at
Speaker 3: the City Live man on the stand, Dude. I never
Speaker 3: thought I would be able to play with the player
Speaker 3: like Kmar Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we the type of duce to just yeah.
Speaker 3: So then when we was on the same team, like
Speaker 3: I was like this is it. I got another dog,
Speaker 3: Like right on the next like if I don't got
Speaker 3: it this night I know he do, like you know,
Speaker 3: it was it was. It was nothing but respect.
Speaker 1: Olympic basketball alternate in eight, made the feet roster in ten,
Speaker 1: and then the Olympics in twelve. What was that experience,
Speaker 1: like representing your country?
Speaker 4: It was? It was, it was.
Speaker 3: It was one of those experiences that you don't think
Speaker 3: that you're going to get to accomplished, especially the way
Speaker 3: my career was gone. I didn't think that, like I
Speaker 3: was gonna get that opportunity. When when when my agent
Speaker 3: told me and told me that cor Angelo like wanted
Speaker 3: me to even try out for the first initial roster.
Speaker 3: I was the arganizer at my mom house and I
Speaker 3: was like wait what. I was like, hold on, I
Speaker 3: was in the house.
Speaker 4: And when else?
Speaker 3: I said wait again and he was like, uh, the
Speaker 3: USA team, whence you come? I was like there, That's
Speaker 3: all I needed was an invite. And at the time,
Speaker 3: you know, I was coming off injury, so I wanted
Speaker 3: to showcase and really turn my career around. And you know,
Speaker 3: Jay cor Angelo gave me the opportunity and put me
Speaker 3: on that stage. Then making the team like I was
Speaker 3: happy to be there, but then making the team was
Speaker 3: a great accomplishment and then to be able to just
Speaker 3: be in practice to sharpen your tools with all of
Speaker 3: them dudes, because that was the best part about it
Speaker 3: was competing against each other in practice. You just you
Speaker 3: got so much better, You learned so much, you know,
Speaker 3: from the guys over there. And then fast forward, fast
Speaker 3: forward to being able to walk during the opening ceremonies
Speaker 3: like every athlete representing their country, and then taking that walk,
Speaker 3: and then winning gold medal, and then again having another
Speaker 3: one of those surreal moments where you're on stage and
Speaker 3: you're looking around like wow, like this is what it's like.
Speaker 4: It was just a feeling.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is gonna be incredible for my
Speaker 3: legacy and my family to be like we have a
Speaker 3: gold medalist in our family, and I was I was
Speaker 3: super proud about that.
Speaker 4: That's Uh.
Speaker 1: Any great stories to come to mind, I mean the stars,
Speaker 1: stars are their code.
Speaker 2: Brian Wade, Mellow Kid to name a few.
Speaker 1: Any crazy practice stories, bust stories, playing eating gas stations.
Speaker 3: Uh, there's just so many stories. I think it was.
Speaker 3: It was always live. Bron was always the jokester. He
Speaker 3: kept it loose and funny all time. Bron is actually
Speaker 3: funny as hell. Mellow controlled the music. He was like radio.
Speaker 3: I hain Melo always had a boom box coming on
Speaker 3: the bus. And then it was like the young crew
Speaker 3: because you had young James, young Kdie, young Russ and
Speaker 3: they was all together and they kept like the youth
Speaker 3: of it. So it was like a great man yup.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Cole was the older dude that wasn't trying to hear
Speaker 3: all that laughing and joking like like Broley playing Koche
Speaker 3: over there, corner of icing, like what is this new stuff?
Speaker 5: Uh uh?
Speaker 4: But yeah, Cope was like cod and then uh, you
Speaker 4: know everybody else.
Speaker 2: Personalities twenty ten, Charlotte, we got the number one deepens
Speaker 2: in the league. Coach Labor, Joe Wallace, what you remember
Speaker 2: about that year?
Speaker 4: Do you remember when m J came took over practice? Yes,
Speaker 4: him got into the practice. Yes, I tell.
Speaker 2: People don't remember. Don't believe that story. I said he
Speaker 2: gave it, took over practice. Me and him got into it,
Speaker 2: and he started telling me about taking off his shoes
Speaker 2: and yes, all this accomplishment. He was, I'll never beat
Speaker 2: m J and all this, and we was going there
Speaker 2: and they beat us and practice Yeah yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 2: stack was it was DJ august was across the gym
Speaker 2: screaming at him.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't think that gonna be here.
Speaker 6: Them back, and I was like, is he talking to
Speaker 6: j Oh that's twenty years ago.
Speaker 4: You can't do it now.
Speaker 2: He wasn't just killing, but he put the winning attitude
Speaker 2: in the second team pumped in him and DJ Augustine
Speaker 2: was on.
Speaker 4: He turned to MJ.
Speaker 2: Stephry D just started making everything like, yup, MJ, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: Tredy the Dallas.
Speaker 1: You join a stacked team, no pun intended, Dirk j Kids,
Speaker 1: Sewn Mary and Jason Terry.
Speaker 2: What was that team like Jason.
Speaker 3: Terror man Jet, Yeah, it was a It was a
Speaker 3: team like full of characters and full of like Stack said,
Speaker 3: when we when we were the untentes, we were all
Speaker 3: guys who had been on different journeys, accomplished different things
Speaker 3: in the league, had you know, got paid already, and
Speaker 3: now it was like on a team together and really
Speaker 3: legit just want to win like uh and that's why
Speaker 3: that unit came together. It was an incredible team. Incredible right,
Speaker 3: Dirk played basketball I've never seen before like I mean,
Speaker 3: that dude was a machine during that run. And but
Speaker 3: Jet like Jet hit big shots.
Speaker 1: For us, j hit big shots. You beat the ship
Speaker 1: umber them, took out ship out of us.
Speaker 4: Swept us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember I was telling family like,
Speaker 3: yeah here I got I got you in the next round,
Speaker 3: like when we come back to LA because I never
Speaker 3: thought like it was gonna be a sweet but yeah
Speaker 3: it was after that.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, we but that journey was crazy.
Speaker 2: So you beat us?
Speaker 1: Then Okatonio. First we started with you beat us in
Speaker 1: the first round.
Speaker 3: No, you guys were it was Portland started, Yeah, Portland,
Speaker 3: and then we got y'all in the second, and then we
Speaker 3: had okay, see team man, it was tough with James
Speaker 3: and Jane was still there. James like that was a
Speaker 3: real tough team Kurk and then uh and then the
Speaker 3: finals against the Heat. You know, they had just so
Speaker 3: bron that summer.
Speaker 2: They were the underdogs though, remember everyone everybody.
Speaker 4: That they had because they had the names.
Speaker 2: But when you look at the roster and the guys
Speaker 2: that had the better team.
Speaker 4: I agree, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: On what was that finals matchup?
Speaker 1: Like obviously that all the hype surrounding that team and
Speaker 1: and the Big three and you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: Dirk was on another planet that whole season.
Speaker 2: But what was that finals experience?
Speaker 3: Like it was incredible that uh that first game, so
Speaker 3: like you could watch Tate, you could you know, try
Speaker 3: to anticipate. They shocked us with how five explosive and
Speaker 3: athletic they were d.
Speaker 4: Wade and bron on the wings.
Speaker 3: I mean it was like a Dunk show like that
Speaker 3: first game, and it was like we would call off
Speaker 3: guard by it. We had to make adjustments to it.
Speaker 3: And the series. They was whooping us the second game,
Speaker 3: like and we were still almost in the shell shock.
Speaker 3: What turned the series was when d Wade hit the
Speaker 3: the three bar bench and held it up and then
Speaker 3: like walked by the whole bench like super distions.
Speaker 2: After that, it was like all right, wake up, Like nah,
Speaker 2: I just went him like okay, all right, like I
Speaker 2: don't care what happened, like nah, And we was literally
Speaker 2: in the huddle and like shifted for us at that point,
Speaker 2: and then we got back to us and then started
Speaker 2: rolling them off.
Speaker 4: Derk was on one. Yeah, yeah, Derk was playing at
Speaker 4: a whole different level.
Speaker 2: Twenty eleven, you go to the Knicks talk about the
Speaker 2: nixt tape we had. We just had shump on shump
Speaker 2: and he was talking about it that team had a
Speaker 2: lot he didn't mention Yester y'all was low was a
Speaker 2: lot of it was the coach. I got two questions though,
Speaker 2: with all that talent, why didn't it work?
Speaker 4: And the and the second question is who's to blame?
Speaker 2: I can't do that going answer just the first one.
Speaker 3: That was a hell of a table. It was it
Speaker 3: we allowed. We allowed the success that we had get
Speaker 3: to us and and we was in chill mode.
Speaker 4: Like got can place it? Yeah, like as if we
Speaker 4: had done something. Uh.
Speaker 3: And I remember me and Jason was just coming off
Speaker 3: of off the championship from Dallas, and then Jason came
Speaker 3: till two years later and then so now we're making
Speaker 3: this run and it was like, uh, we were both
Speaker 3: trying to like you know, speaking into existence different part
Speaker 3: of the locker room. So Jason would take certain task,
Speaker 3: I would take a certain tasks, and and we were rolling.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then up until the playoffs was some We won
Speaker 3: the first series and then we got laxed. We were
Speaker 3: supposed to so we finished we fa finished Uh we
Speaker 3: finished Uh Boston, We we beat Boston.
Speaker 2: See where you guys going into the playoffs, I don't remember. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we were top three. Maybe Miami was one of two
Speaker 2: or three. Yeah, we we were top three. I can't
Speaker 2: remember of Miami or I don't know. If India, I
Speaker 2: don't know who had to know because we had home
Speaker 2: so I think Miami might have been one, might have
Speaker 2: been two or something like that, and we was whooping
Speaker 2: Miami that year, like uh, I mean because Mela was
Speaker 2: like uh that year. And so so we played the
Speaker 2: Boston series, we had to play one more we.
Speaker 4: Had to play.
Speaker 3: We should have we should have beat them, we should
Speaker 3: have handled them, and we should have swept them, I
Speaker 3: think it was. And then we ended up having to
Speaker 3: play the five games or six games, so if it
Speaker 3: was if it was six, we should have beat them
Speaker 3: in five, and then we end up having to go
Speaker 3: to the sixth. The sixth game, Indiana Pacers had wrapped
Speaker 3: up their series. If we say we should have won
Speaker 3: five and then we would have we both would have
Speaker 3: had just, say three or four days arrest or whatever
Speaker 3: and then play. We had to play an extra game.
Speaker 3: So then we finished on Friday, and the game one
Speaker 3: of the playoffs for the next series was on a Sunday.
Speaker 3: It was an early game and we didn't have a
Speaker 3: shoot around, so they canceled shoot around, which me and
Speaker 3: Jay are like, wait, no, no, no, no, like we we
Speaker 3: got we're going to another series, Like we gotta prepare
Speaker 3: for this team. Oh no, we're gonna We're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do We're gonna go over that shoot around
Speaker 3: the next morning, all during the morning of the game.
Speaker 3: So we ended up not being able to have a
Speaker 3: shoot around, so we ended up not being able.
Speaker 4: To go over our strategy.
Speaker 3: So Indiana comes in and sneaks game one, so now
Speaker 3: we're behind the eight ball. We win Game two, we
Speaker 3: go to back to Indiana. One one they blitzed us,
Speaker 3: so we come back to New York down three to one.
Speaker 3: We win the game in New York, so now we
Speaker 3: take it back and then they they ended the series
Speaker 3: in Indiana, and then that was that. I really honestly
Speaker 3: feel like how we got past that. I feel like
Speaker 3: we we probably we had a legitimate shot to win
Speaker 3: the chip that year.
Speaker 2: Who came out the East that year that was twelve.
Speaker 3: That's yep. I want to say that's my Miami. When
Speaker 3: Miami wanted the year because Nami wanted. The year after
Speaker 3: that was that was Miami was trying to go for
Speaker 3: the back to back and I really feel like we
Speaker 3: would have beat him that year with that next team.
Speaker 3: No offense to him. I just I feel like we
Speaker 3: had the unit for it. How great was Mellow Mellow
Speaker 3: was was was on. He was like I at that time.
Speaker 3: I mean thought he was challenging for the best player
Speaker 3: in the league. Uh like at that moment because he
Speaker 3: was doing everything. Uh you know, he could rebound the
Speaker 3: ball past the ball, he was big and see the defense.
Speaker 3: He was scoring crazy. He was just super locked in.
Speaker 3: And then again we had all the pieces around it.
Speaker 3: Tap back rebound known for that. You can't get that.
Speaker 3: What how did that come about? I've been able to
Speaker 3: get the rebound. So you just thinking just let me
Speaker 3: tap it out yep. So so okay, it's funny you
Speaker 3: say that.
Speaker 2: So you never thought about tapping it out so far
Speaker 2: that's going to the other end.
Speaker 3: So so I would I would like, So I got
Speaker 3: it from the thought of Dennis Robmin. Okay, right, So
Speaker 3: Robin was a great rebounder and he would do it
Speaker 3: and just keep tapping the ball till he got it
Speaker 3: to him. Like to himself and you know you're doing
Speaker 3: him crazy, like you know, and you finally get the ball.
Speaker 3: When when I started becoming a good rebounder and then
Speaker 3: guys were you know, they're double team on box out
Speaker 3: and stuff, I wasn't like, I don't know what made
Speaker 3: him crafty to be able to do that, but I
Speaker 3: tried that, but I couldn't do it. And then so
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I was more I could
Speaker 3: jump higher and more athletic this way. So I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm going to treat this like it's almost volleyball,
Speaker 3: and I'll jump everybody. I know where all my guys
Speaker 3: are offensively, because as we're moving, I know the plays
Speaker 3: were right, I still know where they're at, so I
Speaker 3: can always find one of them blindly. So it always
Speaker 3: kind of like a blind pass. So if it went out,
Speaker 3: I just tried to, you know, tip it to where
Speaker 3: I knew, like one of my teammates were gonna be
Speaker 3: started at a lot of a lot of players, a lot.
Speaker 1: Of all the big men doing well. I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'll tell the story.
Speaker 2: Because we haven't had him on the show yet, I'm
Speaker 2: looking forward to get him, so I'm with the Clippers
Speaker 2: at this time, and young DeAndre Jordan's starting to kind
Speaker 2: of find his legs.
Speaker 1: And I used to tell him, Bro, watch Tyson Chandler.
Speaker 1: He plays his role. He blockshots, he rebounds, he tips
Speaker 1: that motherfucker out, and he plays defense. Like watch Tyson.
Speaker 1: He's an Olympian, he's an All Star. He's getting paid
Speaker 1: because he was trying to figure out, like what's my role?
Speaker 1: Blake and CP or this, Bro, you're just as good
Speaker 1: and just as important, but you're not that type of player.
Speaker 2: Like watch Tyson.
Speaker 1: If you start watching Tyson, and sure enough, the nigga
Speaker 1: started watching you and tipping and rebound. Next thing you know,
Speaker 1: he's on the Olympic team and All Defense and All Star.
Speaker 2: And I was just like, watch Tyson.
Speaker 3: I just ran into DJ did you and me and
Speaker 3: jj I never really had you know, we see what
Speaker 3: it's kind of moved, you know, and we've never really
Speaker 3: had that moment, right, And so I saw him, you know, here,
Speaker 3: and I went over to I congratulated him. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, because I was so happy for him that,
Speaker 3: you know, he accomplished that. And I only tell him, like,
Speaker 3: I'm so happy for you, bro, and he pulled me in.
Speaker 3: He was like, man, I just want to tell you, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I appreciate you know, watching you from afar,
Speaker 3: Like you don't know what you did?
Speaker 2: Right, God, Bro, I told you.
Speaker 1: I used to tell him to watch Tyson Chandler Bro,
Speaker 1: watch film, watch the games, watch Tyson.
Speaker 3: And it meant it meant so much neat, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Just hearing that phone, it was like,
Speaker 3: because it's all.
Speaker 2: Of that's really dope. Yeah, the motherfucker listening. You dealt
Speaker 2: with some a lot of stuff, you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of injury in your career. But twenty twelve Defensive Player
Speaker 2: of the Year. How did that feel?
Speaker 4: The bit?
Speaker 2: But have that award just you know, to put that
Speaker 2: on the man A way home? Man, it was it
Speaker 2: felt dope to finally because I felt like DJ right.
Speaker 2: I felt like damn, Like I feel like I'm changing teams,
Speaker 2: I'm putting in work, I'm working my ass off, like
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm helping you. Like I felt like
Speaker 2: I was just important as the person I was storing it.
Speaker 2: I'm just not getting alcolades. And it's like I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, in.
Speaker 3: My own private time, like I was hurt and angry
Speaker 3: like you know, like and and so to finally be
Speaker 3: recognized like for the work that you're putting in, you know,
Speaker 3: on that type of stage, it was like I was
Speaker 3: so so appreciative and like you know, like finally like
Speaker 3: finally it's being recognized, you know, the contributions that I'm doing,
Speaker 3: the impact that I'm making, and even like you know,
Speaker 3: thinks like that was great and it being the same
Speaker 3: thing all like having like it's like that started it.
Speaker 4: Like for me, it's like.
Speaker 3: Once I don't know who, why, how the ones that
Speaker 3: started getting recognized. It's like, Okay, now everybody recognized for
Speaker 3: some reason.
Speaker 2: I've been doing this though, yeah, I've been doing it.
Speaker 3: Exactly and I'm just now you're what was that twelve
Speaker 3: from me or something like that? Like you I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is no different, Like really I had better years defensively, right,
Speaker 3: Like I had a better year that year in Dallas,
Speaker 3: like you know, like from what I did to that
Speaker 3: team and this and that, but it wasn't talked about it.
Speaker 3: I mean it was talked about like there was no accolades, right,
Speaker 3: like you know, from it.
Speaker 1: Make a few stops on the on the ind of
Speaker 1: your career, Go back to Dallas, Phoenix, Lakers, Houston, any
Speaker 1: of those teams, any any fun memories that still standing
Speaker 1: out to you this day.
Speaker 4: A young Phoenix Young book coming in.
Speaker 2: It was cold, young right out the gates. So were
Speaker 2: you there? Was Earls?
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, yeah, So what first first Earl?
Speaker 4: First Earl was.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah yeah, first, Uh he was I want
Speaker 2: to say he was assistant.
Speaker 3: Uh maybe yeah, I want to say his assistant books
Speaker 3: rookie year and then maybe took over during half the
Speaker 3: year I think this season. Yeah, yeah, I think he
Speaker 3: took over mid season that year. But I remember the
Speaker 3: GM there like they had just signed they had just signed.
Speaker 3: H because the reason why I went to Phoenix my
Speaker 3: my mom was sick. So my mom was battling cancer
Speaker 3: at the time. So, uh, because I got better offers elsewhere,
Speaker 3: but I wanted to stay close those closest I can
Speaker 3: get to l a y I could drive to her
Speaker 3: appointments and stuff like that, or get to her appointments
Speaker 3: and stuff quick. So I signed with the Sons. I
Speaker 3: didn't even I didn't even know the Sun's roster, to
Speaker 3: be honest. And then uh so they had just signed
Speaker 3: back Eric bledsoe uh and Brandon Knight and that's like
Speaker 3: who they were so high on. They were good players,
Speaker 3: they were like super high on. So then I'm coming
Speaker 3: and then I played pickups. My first day of pickups,
Speaker 3: I'm singing a roster like, I'm like, okay, like you
Speaker 3: know who's on his team.
Speaker 4: And then Book came and.
Speaker 3: Uh, Book his rookie year, like, and it's our first
Speaker 3: day playing like pick ups. So it's my first day
Speaker 3: meeting and seeing them all. And so we started playing
Speaker 3: and like through you know, the years and like being
Speaker 3: able to build the chemistry with CP. It's funny. I
Speaker 3: was just talking to I was talking to a coach
Speaker 3: the CP had, and he was like, man, he was like,
Speaker 3: uh like when CP would like trying to tell a
Speaker 3: big to do something like Tyson used to do it
Speaker 3: this way, Like Tyson did it this way. I was like,
Speaker 3: that's funny to say.
Speaker 2: I had never heard that because I was like every
Speaker 2: god was like, Ceep did it this way.
Speaker 3: Miss I would try to, you know, imitate. And so
Speaker 3: I was talking a book about different things and so
Speaker 3: we run, you know, we're playing pick up and I'm
Speaker 3: like bro like and so I'm guarding them. He was
Speaker 3: able to pick up quick like, yes, I could tell
Speaker 3: him something once Boom. I told him like, I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: come off this pin down this way you come up.
Speaker 3: This is your looks like, and that's what you're gonna
Speaker 3: see if you don't got that bob looking. Boom he
Speaker 3: did and I was like, young players don't work like that,
Speaker 3: like you know, like not like that. And so instantly
Speaker 3: I know, I was like this kid is special, like
Speaker 3: and he's gonna be special. And I remember afterwards the
Speaker 3: gym was like what do you think? And I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you. I was like, the
Speaker 3: best player you got on your roster is that kid
Speaker 3: that you drafted devil boom. And he was like what
Speaker 3: He's like really, He's like what do you think about?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: And I was like, they're good. I'm telling you. I
Speaker 3: was like me them this roster, he better than all
Speaker 3: of us. That's the best player you got on this roster.
Speaker 3: And he was like really. I was like, who was
Speaker 3: the gym at the time.
Speaker 4: Yep, Ryan McDonald, Uh he was. He was the gym
Speaker 4: at the time.
Speaker 2: The book was cold. Book came out right out the
Speaker 2: gates when did you know it was time to walk
Speaker 2: away from the game nineteen years right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, man said, I ain't with it.
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, Bro, I got to come in, bro,
Speaker 2: because I say, what it took for him to get
Speaker 2: through through a season. He was dealing with your back, Bronx.
Speaker 2: My bro couldn't even walk, Bro. And he'll show up
Speaker 2: game time trying to push through. I've seen it, Bro,
Speaker 2: I seen it. He was fighting. He was pushing through
Speaker 2: a lot of ship yeah, bro.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, because because you know, even even when like
Speaker 3: I remember the doctor, the doctor who vetoed my trade
Speaker 3: and uh, because I was supposed to go to Okay,
Speaker 3: see before I went to Dollars. So uh so the
Speaker 3: doctor who vetoed my trade said that I wasn't gonna
Speaker 3: play past my eighth year, uh in the league. And
Speaker 3: you know, you you have to fight through a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff, you know what I mean? And I would
Speaker 3: I put him a lot of work to try to
Speaker 3: like keep myself on the court. You know, a lot
Speaker 3: of rehab, fall through a lot of stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of injuries. But you know, I appreciate it
Speaker 3: now looking and we say, when did I know?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: It like I would it became harder and harder to
Speaker 3: bounce back. I rememberhen I was with the like the
Speaker 3: last year I was with the Lakers, they asked me
Speaker 3: if I could, uh, you know, like the type of
Speaker 3: minutes that I could play, And I felt like my
Speaker 3: body I felt like I could. I mean, my mind
Speaker 3: felt like I could. And then I started realizing I
Speaker 3: was out there and my body couldn't. And then so
Speaker 3: that was one side of it, But the bigger side
Speaker 3: of it was just like I would come into the
Speaker 3: to the gym and just sit in the locker and
Speaker 3: just look at my stuff, like for a long time
Speaker 3: before I put it in. It started getting hard for
Speaker 3: me just to put my girl on. And I knew
Speaker 3: at that point, I was like, yeah, it's about that.
Speaker 1: That damn well, you got to think, I mean, you're
Speaker 1: one of the rare dudes. You kg Brown Code that
Speaker 1: play had more years than like half your life in
Speaker 1: the NBA. Yeah, and you would play nineteen year so
Speaker 1: you have spent more than half your life in the
Speaker 1: NBA in the NBA, Like, that's insane to think, bro.
Speaker 2: It is you know how we always say Father time
Speaker 2: is undefeated. I want to read y'all something and something.
Speaker 2: Father time is not undefeated because of knowledge, know how
Speaker 2: skilled wisdom and energy is transferred from us to the
Speaker 2: youth and for the time has to start all over
Speaker 2: again with the young opponent.
Speaker 4: Our spirit is undefeated. I like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, damn, okay, that's a good one, right now, that's
Speaker 3: a good one.
Speaker 1: I've known this motherfucker since two thousand and seventy. I
Speaker 1: ain't never said nothing.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: Listen, that's beautiful. Man.
Speaker 3: That's like every event you know that you along to
Speaker 3: every young player. That's exactly what you said. Yeah, exactly
Speaker 3: what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's handling that knowledge. And I'm sure being
Speaker 1: the person you are, that was what you just spoke
Speaker 1: about it about book. You know, we have so much
Speaker 1: to offer, and we talked about this, I think with
Speaker 1: our last guest, Kelsey Plumb with the w NBA about
Speaker 1: who were her vet. She's like, we didn't have no vets.
Speaker 1: And then you see the league now is so young. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we had the first I mean, same thing when
Speaker 1: you came in the game. We had you had, Oh,
Speaker 1: we had niggas. It was thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty nine.
Speaker 1: Whether they played or not, they added so much to
Speaker 1: that team, just in knowledge, wisdom, experience, know how, and
Speaker 1: I feel like sports overall is missing that.
Speaker 2: Now I'm cool to do it the way J Kid
Speaker 2: did it though, making it making them coaches.
Speaker 4: That's you know what I'm saying. That's the way you
Speaker 4: got to do one of them. Yeah, you got to
Speaker 4: eat it. Take guys like J Kid did that.
Speaker 3: Just finished and say just come to the gym like Okay,
Speaker 3: I know you don't want to, but just come in
Speaker 3: do what you're already doing. Like it's so like, hasm
Speaker 3: what has them did? Every team needs has them? Yeah,
Speaker 3: like every team like it keeps the team together, like.
Speaker 4: And you know you you have it.
Speaker 3: If you got all the youth as competition, they all
Speaker 3: in the same place, you need need somebody to help
Speaker 3: lead the way. Now you got young players leading young players.
Speaker 3: They don't know what they talking about. They don't know
Speaker 3: what they talking about. And it's crazy that they even
Speaker 3: step up to say it.
Speaker 4: Like you hear some time.
Speaker 3: You're not a vet, bro if you don't be quiet,
Speaker 3: like if you don't stop like there's vets in this league.
Speaker 3: There was real vets, like real vets.
Speaker 2: Right, It's unfortunate, man, I mean, after spending half your
Speaker 2: life in the game you love, who were you off
Speaker 2: the court once you finished?
Speaker 3: Did it take time to find out? Yeah, I'm still
Speaker 3: in that really heard you retire. I've been away like
Speaker 3: two years, two years and not still but still in
Speaker 3: still in not playing mode. And then like your time
Speaker 3: that you have, you have so much time now you
Speaker 3: spent like you said, and not even the nineteen years
Speaker 3: in the league that I spent, but from being twelve
Speaker 3: years old, like and starting the journey. That's all you know,
Speaker 3: Like all you know is like hitting the gym and likes,
Speaker 3: everything is directed, right, Like there's not a time that
Speaker 3: I didn't have a goal that I was seeking and
Speaker 3: super motivated for, right, So like, this is the first
Speaker 3: time of my life that I don't have like something
Speaker 3: in front.
Speaker 1: Of me that it's like and we're such creatures that happen.
Speaker 1: So we're on the scheduled time and that's the part
Speaker 1: that ship is so to a t. And then once
Speaker 1: you don't have it no more, it's scary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, for sure. I was like at first, I
Speaker 4: was like I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 2: I get to sleep in, I get to do this,
Speaker 2: all that, all that you so excited quick.
Speaker 4: I couldn't wait for it.
Speaker 3: Quick or quick. And JR told me that, like we're
Speaker 3: in above JR. I was like, what's the cause I
Speaker 3: knew I was headed to retirement. So I was like,
Speaker 3: and I knew he had gone through it. And then
Speaker 3: he came back, you know, in the bubble and then
Speaker 3: played and then so I was like, yo, okay, you've
Speaker 3: been out for a couple of years, and like, what's
Speaker 3: the toughest part And he was like, the toughest part
Speaker 3: is time, man, And I was like, okay, really And
Speaker 3: I couldn't quite grasp that until I was in that
Speaker 3: position and I was like, I got it, Like and
Speaker 3: now I understand because again, like you said, we it's
Speaker 3: always a training like okay, be the gym this time,
Speaker 3: do this, you got this, you got obligation. It's all
Speaker 3: set up so you just like a machine going and
Speaker 3: then once you're about that machine, it's like, okay, now
Speaker 3: it's on you.
Speaker 4: You want that time to relax after two minutes. I
Speaker 4: need I need. I'm a motivated person there. I need
Speaker 4: to be doing something, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's why it was great for me to come
Speaker 2: to the gym and also like I'm a creative so
Speaker 2: it's like, I know you want them tall dude to
Speaker 2: really get up like he's six two coolest head him
Speaker 2: the same way, you know. Yeah, the nd season tournament
Speaker 2: thoughts on that, oh.
Speaker 4: Ship man, I don't understand it.
Speaker 3: I like described to me and broken down by like
Speaker 3: three different players and exactly it's not I still don't understand.
Speaker 3: Like I was with DeMar Deroze and then I was like, bro,
Speaker 3: what is and he was trying to help me get what.
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I don't get it, Like
Speaker 3: I don't get what the I mean. I hope it
Speaker 3: brings some excitement to the game maybe watch yeah, Like,
Speaker 3: but I don't understand what's gonna be the benefits. The
Speaker 3: reason I like it because they I mean, I didn't
Speaker 3: understand as well. But all the games count and they
Speaker 3: are all gonna matter. That I understand, So I like that.
Speaker 2: But just the fact that they make it that tournament
Speaker 2: during the middle.
Speaker 4: Of the season, that's what it is? It like because
Speaker 4: is it grab from like soccer fall? It is right
Speaker 4: that thing. So I thought that how you feel about
Speaker 4: the I kind of like that. The I love it.
Speaker 3: The overtime like points that they did, like I don't
Speaker 3: know how many points, I mean, how many points they
Speaker 3: would do, but I like it. It was set seven now,
Speaker 3: like a set numbers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had the first.
Speaker 3: Overtime with the MAVs yesterday and they put the set points, Like, okay,
Speaker 3: first to seven, clock is off, so every possession matters over.
Speaker 2: Time, it's eighty to eighty two. You go to eighty nine, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you got it.
Speaker 4: You gotta play. I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that, Like I don't know if it's gonna
Speaker 3: be seven or what, but I like that because you
Speaker 3: gotta play now every point matters, and then it becomes
Speaker 3: real strategy.
Speaker 1: And they got the flopping foul, which I love because
Speaker 1: there's too much that is terrible. And then with all
Speaker 1: the bullshit reughing. If you get your first challenge right,
Speaker 1: you get a second, and I like that.
Speaker 4: That should be yeah, yeah, like you shouldn't get penalized
Speaker 4: getting it right, forgetting the best player in the world
Speaker 4: right now. It's a tough question, that is mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Right now after the finals, your kids played the best, Yeah,
Speaker 3: your kids, It's been the best this year.
Speaker 4: The world. Right now, I gotta go yr Ki. You
Speaker 4: can't go wrong.
Speaker 1: With that, How good is Luca? I mean you get
Speaker 1: to see him on a day to day basis. How
Speaker 1: special to see special?
Speaker 3: I feel like it's this generation's magic, like though more
Speaker 3: of a score. And what I mean by that like
Speaker 3: not that the games are similar. He controls the whole game, yes,
Speaker 3: and the creativity of what they play with. Nobody had
Speaker 3: ever seen magic, right, and we never seen Luca.
Speaker 4: Luca. He they they broke the code of the league, Luca.
Speaker 3: And these are slow, unathletic players that are like moving
Speaker 3: at a different pace. Right, We were athletic and move fast.
Speaker 3: They just slow down and and he does it.
Speaker 4: He doesn't.
Speaker 3: In practice, he does stuff that like I've never seen before,
Speaker 3: and that's difficult for Like, I didn't seen a bunch
Speaker 3: of players like he does some of the craziest stuff
Speaker 3: in practice. And the dude doesn't laughing and smile.
Speaker 4: Like like magic.
Speaker 3: That's why I say magic, because his personality is always love,
Speaker 3: smile and love is easy doing.
Speaker 2: He's special. The King is still pushing strong. What what's
Speaker 2: that's incredible? What he Yeah, it's unbelievable. What's the differences
Speaker 2: between Braun and Kobe? You know both, You've seen both
Speaker 2: what's your what's what what's the difference that you see
Speaker 2: in between?
Speaker 3: I would say COB's mentality point blank exactly. That's that's
Speaker 3: the clearest thing.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: COB's mentality is you know, unmatched, just like m J
Speaker 3: point two Braun. It's a physical specimen like I mean,
Speaker 3: Bron is something that we've never seen before.
Speaker 4: The mascot for the Ultimate Basketball like you're gonna create.
Speaker 3: Is Bron straight up like he Yeah, yeah, I would
Speaker 3: say that's the difference between the two.
Speaker 2: He is definitely that. Before the show, we spoke on boxing.
Speaker 2: Did you ever choose training to get in shape?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Boxing Jack Jack wanted to ask if you look like
Speaker 2: a d when you trained for boxing?
Speaker 4: That that was nasty? I was that was who put
Speaker 4: that out there like that?
Speaker 2: That's like that.
Speaker 4: Don't do him like that. That's what I don't do
Speaker 4: him like my man working training.
Speaker 2: But you can tell they're not even training him the
Speaker 2: box and they just threw him in there to hurt
Speaker 2: the camera on exactly because I like he was wide
Speaker 2: open a lot of times, but Buddy just swung up
Speaker 2: one time as you.
Speaker 4: Your list, he's too close. That's something like this. He
Speaker 4: put his X. That was crazy. It's a great way
Speaker 4: to good in shape. But he you know, he needs
Speaker 4: a lot of work.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: And I'm in the boxing space right now.
Speaker 2: I mean you close to all the way polish, but
Speaker 2: I look better than that.
Speaker 4: I look better than that for sure.
Speaker 1: Tice man, we appreciate your time. Were coming down to
Speaker 1: quick hitters. The first thing to come to mind. Let
Speaker 1: us know top five centers of all time in your opinion?
Speaker 3: Share kareem will cheat code. Yeah, I'm gonna throw your
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Speaker 2: That boy down in Houston was nice.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, sorry, I don't know how I did that.
Speaker 4: That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. One album you can listen
Speaker 4: to with on repeat with no skips.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's this is I got. I got three,
Speaker 3: give give us all. I could go all eyes on
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Speaker 6: Come on.
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Speaker 3: to finish.
Speaker 4: Take a Niggas ship click click.
Speaker 2: Yes now riding sideways Yeah, bron m J Kobe rank.
Speaker 4: Them damn that's M one.
Speaker 5: H M one.
Speaker 4: Bron Kobe.
Speaker 2: I can't go wrong either, way according to our barber
Speaker 2: here is he here.
Speaker 4: Even even doing a lot later.
Speaker 2: But he word is Justin Bieber was baptizing your bathtub.
Speaker 2: Any truth to that?
Speaker 5: Really?
Speaker 2: How that happened?
Speaker 3: Random? Random? I'm living in New York. I'm playing for
Speaker 3: the Knicks. I got close with Justin like maybe a
Speaker 3: couple of years before that.
Speaker 5: And then.
Speaker 3: I'm coming from a game and they hit me to
Speaker 3: come over by the crib, or to come to the crib.
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, I'll be there in
Speaker 3: a second. When I get back to the crib. You know,
Speaker 3: he was going through some things. He had a pastor
Speaker 3: come over, so we all was just there, you know, chilling,
Speaker 3: and then uh uh he said he wanted to get
Speaker 3: baptized that night.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then so that's when you want to get baptized
Speaker 3: in that So that's why they called. I called the
Speaker 3: pastor over, and then so then I called I'm in
Speaker 3: I'm in the apartment at the time, living in I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, one of the high rises, and I had
Speaker 3: the guy's number who would like open up the like
Speaker 3: the gym for me which had a pool and all
Speaker 3: of that, and so I'm hitting him and he not
Speaker 3: hit me back, and so I'm like damn, and I'm
Speaker 3: like damn, JB. I know you want to do this tonight,
Speaker 3: but I don't know how because I can't get the pool.
Speaker 3: And then the pastor was like, well you're a big guy,
Speaker 3: like how big is your tub? And I'm like, uh really,
Speaker 3: I'm like I do actually got a big tub, so
Speaker 3: if y'all want to use that, you can. They were like,
Speaker 3: just I want to do this, and I was like
Speaker 3: all right, So I went and filled up the bathtub
Speaker 3: and let them have their moment, and uh, he had it.
Speaker 3: Then he left his draws in my daughter's room.
Speaker 4: But get your.
Speaker 5: Jaws back justin. Man, that's the shitty beavers.
Speaker 2: Shitty be.
Speaker 4: Has clean drawers.
Speaker 5: Random.
Speaker 2: First thing you do in the morning. Last thing you
Speaker 2: do before you go to sleep. First thing, uh, drink
Speaker 2: glass of water right when I wake up? Uh before
Speaker 2: I go to sleep, pray one guess you'd like to
Speaker 2: see on All the Smoke, but but you have to
Speaker 2: help us get your answer on the show.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be here, so I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 3: That happened overdue, though I appreciate you all be here. Man,
Speaker 3: All the Smoke KG already been on. Yeah, she's been on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all the dudes he liked.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm yeh damning we got you know, count put
Speaker 4: us over this in your organization that we ain't had
Speaker 4: no dirty. Uh you got dirt, j kid, we haven't
Speaker 4: had dirt. And that's a concusation. We need to have you.
Speaker 1: We're supposed to have Cube tomorrow but he had to
Speaker 1: cancel last minute family emergency.
Speaker 2: But we haven't that you or Dirk. Dirk is our boy.
Speaker 2: We need to get Dirk on wetalking about that.
Speaker 4: You can't be mad at you can't be mad at still.
Speaker 4: But we were just doing our job over Okay, I
Speaker 4: got Dirk.
Speaker 3: I hope get Dirk is like Dirk is not the
Speaker 3: and not like thatgas. But Dirk is not the.
Speaker 1: Person you think right, no question. I don't know him
Speaker 1: at all, Jersey Sign. He's married to a black woman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jersey in my house, Dirk's is one coming to
Speaker 2: the gym.
Speaker 4: Yeah you saw us to go you know, keep it
Speaker 4: at the.
Speaker 1: Barbecue, you know, you know yeah, yeah what tyson man.
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time and traansulations on a long career.
Speaker 1: That's the luck with everything, and you know we continue
Speaker 1: to wish you nothing but the best man. So that's
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