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Speaker 1: Welcome back Summer League twenty twenty three. Man, we got

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Speaker 1: a guest today. They had to wait forty five minutes

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Speaker 1: for his dry cleaning, so we.

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Speaker 2: Started out, who care we did it now, But I

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Speaker 2: want to welcome to this show. Man.

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Speaker 1: I got a chance to see this this man grow.

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Speaker 1: He was a couple of years younger for me, but

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Speaker 1: out in LA I was at UCLA. He was in

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Speaker 1: high school, always making waves. Came up to UCLA one

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Speaker 1: day and I said, oh, he's not going to college.

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Speaker 1: This kid's going to the pros. Welcome to the show, Tyson,

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Speaker 1: chandlin Man, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for some time.

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Speaker 1: So y'all played together. Yeah, what was that like Charlotte?

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Speaker 2: Yeah for me, for me it was great because I

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Speaker 2: mean it was a chance for me to come into

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Speaker 2: a leader role on the Charlotte team. I got traded there,

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Speaker 2: you know, doing them doing the course of the season.

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Speaker 2: But I think for all of us, we were guys

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Speaker 2: that were still had bounced around a little bit, but

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Speaker 2: we all had the same kind of like common goal.

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Speaker 2: We all went hard. So we was able to get

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs for the first time. It shot it

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Speaker 2: together and have the number one defense in the league.

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Speaker 2: Can't too many people say that. Very nice, very nice.

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Speaker 2: Well current day.

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Speaker 1: You joined the MAVs player development staff in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: working alongside God Sham God, you know obviously Jay Kidd,

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Speaker 1: our guy Jared Dudley. What has that experience been like

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Speaker 1: on the coaching side.

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Speaker 3: Now, it's been great. It's a learning lesson. It's definitely

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Speaker 3: an adjustment, you know, from playing and then learning how

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Speaker 3: to like articulate your thoughts and things that you know,

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Speaker 3: you learned along the years that came naturally, like trying

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Speaker 3: to explain it to somebody, you know. So it's fun.

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Speaker 3: It keeps me involved with the game. I honestly thought

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Speaker 3: I'm out it right, And then, you know, I did

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Speaker 3: that for a little while, but then I started to

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Speaker 3: miss the game. I start to miss just being around guys,

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Speaker 3: you know, in the camaraderie. Uh So, when j Kid

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Speaker 3: got the job, hit me up and was like, listen,

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Speaker 3: come on, I need you just just getting the building.

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Speaker 3: That's dope.

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Speaker 2: You was the anchor of the championship squad, come fuck

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Speaker 2: with us.

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Speaker 1: So did you ever see yourself coaching like I've been

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Speaker 1: offered a couple of situations too. I just never saw

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Speaker 1: myself in it. Have you did you see yourself possibly

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Speaker 2: No, no, not.

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Speaker 4: At all, not at all.

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Speaker 3: You know it and even you know when yourself was like,

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Speaker 3: just let me come in, just get a feel and

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Speaker 3: see what this says. You know, coaching is a dedication.

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Speaker 3: They spend a lot of hours, like you know, more

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Speaker 3: than more than any players turning off as players, Like

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Speaker 3: you know, they're constantly working on the next thing, film,

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Speaker 4: It's just it's twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit about Derek Lively?

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Speaker 1: You guys took him twelve overall all, what have you

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Speaker 1: liked so far about him? He's active, very athletic, young kid.

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Speaker 1: Reminds me of myself a lot.

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Speaker 3: Like reminds me of the funny thing Jason when he

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Speaker 3: uh I came to the gym the day after he

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Speaker 3: had the workout pre draft workout and Jak was like, man,

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Speaker 3: I wish you the king yesterday. He was like, there's

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Speaker 3: me a lot of like you. He's like and not

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Speaker 3: He's like, he got a lot of the same attributes

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Speaker 4: To do, like a real a project to work on.

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Speaker 3: So I'm watching the draft and that's that draft is

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Speaker 3: Then you know, I get to meet him and stuff,

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Speaker 3: and he's a great, great dude. They definitely definitely needed.

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Speaker 3: That's that's always been the missing key for the match,

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Speaker 3: He wants to learn active, you know, and right now

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Speaker 2: What are the expectations looking like?

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Speaker 1: Obviously, you guys moved a lot to get Kyrie. You

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Speaker 1: Also picked up Grant Williams that was big, huge piece

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Speaker 1: for this team this year? I mean, you guys, are

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Speaker 2: Got Kai back.

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Speaker 1: You guys have put some new pieces around on the

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Speaker 3: Think the unit is like way more balanced now and

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Speaker 4: Like you said, Williams is a huge piece because you need.

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Speaker 3: That type of good guy, come with that type of energy,

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Speaker 3: real professional. Kai and Luca are two of the most

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Speaker 3: I love the pieces that they put around them because

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Speaker 3: that's what they that's what they were missing last year.

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Speaker 3: You got to have those pieces that bring together team,

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Speaker 3: and so you know they have those, but I got

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Speaker 3: to see you know how.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go back to the upbringing. Compton. Where exactly

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Speaker 4: did you grow up?

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Speaker 3: I actually was in Hamford, then sam Malandino, then Compton.

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Speaker 4: What's Hamford?

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Speaker 3: Hamford, California is like a farm in town I grew

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Speaker 5: I would never expect that everybody.

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Speaker 2: Like, especially because Tans have that curl to.

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Speaker 1: L a curling him, you lose, you lose.

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Speaker 4: Jason Thomas, the cold curl lose slow. I came front

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Speaker 4: used to get a little you know.

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Speaker 1: Not christ like wavy though Yeah, my ship didn't get

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Speaker 3: But it was I feel like I had a great

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Speaker 3: So it was it was a great time. You know,

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Speaker 3: had a lot of lives. You went through a lot though.

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Speaker 2: Sophomore year, junior year, you were crash on your homeless couch,

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Speaker 3: Like for things was going down and like my life

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Speaker 4: You need to be here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that you know, I still got love for

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Speaker 4: that today. Yeah. Comptent, legendary, legendary, I know all about them.

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Speaker 2: How was the hoops saying to talk about coming up,

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Speaker 2: you know in that era because basketball was high school

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Speaker 4: I'm saying Comptent to Megas is one of those schools.

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Speaker 2: Talk about that experience of you know, growing up with

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Speaker 3: I mean we walk in the gyms, we walk in

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Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's like like we're gonna We're gonna win either to

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Speaker 4: So what is gonna be?

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Speaker 3: And we came in with that type of mentality and uh,

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Speaker 3: I mean it was a hell of an era.

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Speaker 2: Tommy Prince, Jason Thomas term. Yeah, the most dropped name

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Speaker 2: ever was all the smoke term turn. But what was

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Speaker 2: talking about? We gotta got this our term segment?

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Speaker 4: What was term? Game like? Turn?

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Speaker 3: Terms nice? Nice point guard? Like your term is gritty.

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Speaker 1: I call him ten day term now because you swear

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Speaker 1: the Lakers go.

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Speaker 2: But he's doing more gang banging in the video and

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Speaker 1: Basketball, Like he can't just cuss everybody. He cuss when

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Speaker 2: Time will come back and play pickups and start fights.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't call here no more.

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Speaker 3: We get somebody new from another income term banging up.

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Speaker 1: This is our team, turn right, This is our team,

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Speaker 1: our team messing, our team graduated four years ago.

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Speaker 3: But it was I mean, you know, Tay like you

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Speaker 3: said Jason Thomas. I got a chance to watch I

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Speaker 4: You know, the culture there.

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Speaker 3: T was like the most clean cut out of them all,

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Speaker 3: and he kind of like, you know, set the tone

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Speaker 3: to go to the league from high school. Yeah, from

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Speaker 3: high school, So I knew whatever Tay did, like he was,

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Speaker 3: going to college was like whatever he did, I got

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Speaker 3: a count of surpassed nothing. So he said, like a

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Speaker 1: You had like a legendary was it junior high or

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Speaker 1: freshman year? Like a sixty minute interview?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about that because there was talks. I

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Speaker 1: mean obviously it was talks. But you going to the

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Speaker 4: Give me ahead?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, y'all doing sixty minutes was on Sports Illustrated.

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Speaker 6: I'm like I should have damn.

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Speaker 1: It's good talk to us about what you know. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Already know, I know, I just didn't know that story. Yeah, players, man,

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Speaker 4: How did he motivate you? What did you idolize about KG?

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Speaker 4: Exactly, and it never makes sense to us.

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Speaker 2: You can go to war at eighteen, but you can't

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. That don't make me dumb.

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Speaker 4: But who?

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Speaker 2: But who mostly benefits from kids coming out of high

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Kill was like, what's up, Killer, what's up with you?

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Speaker 3: I was like what He was like, I can't be

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Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I'm like they're coming up asking for

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Speaker 4: Had that young team. I was like, we're about to

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Speaker 4: I was sick at first.

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Speaker 1: Tyson Chandler Los Angeles Clipper, what's that feeling like for

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Speaker 3: Man lived that part, man, I thought I was gonna

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Speaker 3: were like, what you want there at too? That's what

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Speaker 3: So then like David Stern is up there and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: watched this, you know, like your entire youth upbringing. You

444
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 3: watch all the draft, you see all the new talent

445
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 3: coming in, and you wish it. You you play it

446
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 3: out in your head, you dream it. So then to

447
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 3: be up on the stage and shaking David Stern hand

448
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,439
Speaker 3: was just surreal, like you're looking out in the crowd

449
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 3: now like I always see this from my TV.

450
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 4: This is what it looks like a minute now, Yeah, like, damn,

451
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 4: this is what it is.

452
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,719
Speaker 3: So I feel like every one of those moments that

453
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: I was able to accomplish in the league, it's like

454
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 3: that was it, Like same thing when I want a chip.

455
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 3: It was like getting on the stage was like, oh shit,

456
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: this is what all them is always saying like this

457
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 3: is what it is from because you watch it from TV,

458
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 3: you tell you able to experience it. So when every

459
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 3: experience is just like out of body.

460
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: Experience, so your heart drops. You get traded to Chicago

461
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 2: said you felt sick for a little bit, but you're

462
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 2: there with a young Eddie Curry. You guys are labeled

463
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 2: the next Twin Towers. How good was Eddie man. Eddie

464
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: was good as shit.

465
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 3: Eddie, Like people don't understand Eddie was very talented, big

466
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 3: and strong man. Eddie was that big and could do

467
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 3: a backflip.

468
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: Like it was like draft the year before.

469
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 3: SA Chicago had the fourth pick and then they traded

470
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 3: Elton Brand for you for me and swapped with the clip.

471
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 3: That's how it ended up in cookies like swapped to

472
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 3: our second pick or whatever. And me and Eddie didn't

473
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 3: like each other for no reason except for on someone

474
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 3: who's just being pitted against each other and ranked and

475
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 3: da da da day. So I remember when I got there,

476
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: we had the most awkward like like uh pre.

477
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 4: Uh press conference.

478
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we in in the training room and like

479
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 3: I'm here, he might be like six feet away from me,

480
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: and neither one of us are looking at each other.

481
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 3: We're just like like eminent man, like exactly.

482
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: And then and then we're gonna do the interview or whatever,

483
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: and then we come out.

484
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 3: We still didn't. It's just like we're just like hey,

485
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 3: you know, like I'll see you in a week or so.

486
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 3: We had training camp and then once we start like

487
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: being around in each other more and meet each other's families,

488
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 3: like like I fell in love with dude. A great dude,

489
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 3: great heart. But I mean he was a beast, like

490
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: a BA soft touch, shoot the ball, like heft toes

491
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 3: like three hundred and something pounds. It was like it was,

492
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 3: it was. It was crazy how talented he was. He

493
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 3: probably was the most talented player in our draft, to

494
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 3: be honest, like, just coming in.

495
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: Who are some of your vets?

496
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: You leaned on early on in Chicago, Big oak Big

497
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: He slap anybody in front of.

498
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 3: You, absolutely several people, several people, and he would be

499
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 3: always make me man. He he was like wrong or

500
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: call me young fella. I didn't know what he was doing, like,

501
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 3: I'm just I got to do everything, OK. And he

502
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 3: called and smacked somebody like I'm like I want to

503
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 3: be behind, Like I'm not involved with any of this.

504
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell he said. I'm sorry

505
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 4: like for whatever he's like. But I was like, OK,

506
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 4: maybe roll with him.

507
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 3: I love oak Man was like the best vet man,

508
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 3: the best vet. Well, yeah, he would rough me up too,

509
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: like yeah, we'd be like because I remember we were

510
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: in we were in and We're in film and I'm

511
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 3: sitting in the front and he would always talk to you,

512
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: to me and Eddie like all the time. He's always

513
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 3: had something to say. He would make he would make

514
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 3: me and Eddie like the TV is right here.

515
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 4: He would make us sit right there, get closer to.

516
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: The niggas just a bully.

517
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 5: Still like that.

518
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: I remember, Uh he was like, uh he said something

519
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: in film like uh. He was like something, I'm smack

520
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 3: you too or something. I was like, you're not gonna

521
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: just smack and I was like, you might win, but

522
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 3: you ain't gonna smack me without a fight.

523
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 5: Uh.

524
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 3: And he was like all right, all right, well all right,

525
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: and uh so the car was the coach And as

526
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 3: soon as I said that car.

527
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 4: Was like, all right, film's over, I was like, you

528
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 4: don't want to make.

529
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 3: Because he wanted man, so everybody, uh walk out him.

530
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: Like it's like after school fight in high school.

531
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

532
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: No, he waited, Yeah, you gotta walk outside the stairs

533
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: like we're in the film room, and uh you had

534
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: to walk up to.

535
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: The stairs or whatever. And then we get up to

536
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 3: the stairs and then we just started tussling and I'm

537
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: trying to he's strong ship. We follow rolling back and forth.

538
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: He tossed me, I'll come back into the training room

539
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 3: back cut up was like what happened? I was like

540
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: me and Oaku's wrestling and then going to practice, well

541
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 3: was crazy.

542
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 4: He was gone.

543
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: He was when he came when he squat up on

544
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: Joe Wallace, I think he was gone already.

545
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah. I heard about that.

546
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 4: I heard about he.

547
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: Was a coach, that he was a coach. Did he

548
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 2: was a coach, but he was like but with but

549
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: with me eighty and like it was on some like

550
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: it was big brother.

551
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 3: It was like like and I'm telling the story, like

552
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: just like that Oakre was like my big brother.

553
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: He was, and he got into it with Joe because

554
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: he was you know, they were trying to change the

555
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 2: vibe him and coach Slas. Yeah, just just trying to

556
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: change the mold of the team to you know, get

557
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: to like a winning aspect. And guys used to have

558
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: towers on the head, right, So yeah, Jerald always like

559
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: that tripping Jay. Jared Wallis put the tie on his

560
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: next because he had long dreads and he didn't want

561
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: to sweat no the right so he told him for

562
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: the game, like we're not doing none of that. We

563
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: gonna look professional so Jerild did it. You know Gerard

564
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: franchise playing. He yan't get off Jail next Jigga's house

565
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: and throw it at like we ain't doing that.

566
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: I told you ain't doing that.

567
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: So you know, Jero, they gambled together all the time,

568
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: so Jail like, nah, put it back on. I'm gonna

569
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: see you at the game. And I told you not

570
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: to do it. All right, remember that one two, three

571
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: Bobcats coaches walk out. All you see is oh, bigger

572
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 2: you turn right back in front of Jail Wallers. Now

573
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: didn't I say, I was gonna slap you, still right

574
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: in front of and Jeriel didn't get up. He's standing.

575
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 4: I had to. I stood.

576
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 2: I say, oh, you are a coach now you can.

577
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 2: Please don't slap Jeril Wallers. Please don't do it.

578
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 4: You know, Joe, don't get up and fight. But oh

579
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: you're a coach now you can't. He's looking at me.

580
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm just I ain't never begged nobody

581
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: like I begged him not.

582
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 4: To slap Jim water him.

583
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: I say, please, dog, just you a coach now you

584
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: can't do it. But oh minute though Paul Silas jacked

585
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: up Tyres Thomas put hands on him. Did he rest

586
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: in peace? O? G. Tyres got slick with him on

587
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: the bench, you know what I'm saying. He came back

588
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: in the locker, he was talking and Tyren's still going

589
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: so he just ran up on tires and kind of.

590
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 4: Cholage. You just jumped quick like you know.

591
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: How well that was a funny team that old school

592
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 3: league would always be because it wasn't nothing like the

593
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 3: fights was just fights. And then I was like, you

594
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: move on.

595
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: Two thousand and six, you get traded to the Hornets.

596
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 4: Of course.

597
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: Your first year the team is an okay, see because

598
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: of Katrina.

599
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 4: How was that it was? It was? It was I

600
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 4: was happy we were there.

601
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: It was a tough trends because the city was still

602
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: you know, the city was still struggling trying to get back.

603
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were able.

604
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: To do a lot, like you know, in the community,

605
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: which was great and to try to you know, help

606
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: help the process. And we also like it was it

607
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 3: was great that our team was good, you know, because

608
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 3: it gave people in the city outlet somewhere to go,

609
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 3: some hope, you know, and uh and then connecting with

610
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: CP you know, and and creating that connection I really

611
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 3: felt like I got into the league when I went there.

612
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt like, Okay.

613
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 3: This is what the league should be like, right, you know,

614
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: before like my first five I was like, I mean

615
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: the turnover. I had five coaches in my five years

616
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: in Chicago, two gms. There was only like four or

617
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: five players that would stay every year. They would always

618
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: trade everybody and you know, and turn over the roster.

619
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: And then when I got to to UH, when I

620
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: got to the Hornets, be Scott bar and Scott was

621
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: the coach and he was like, look forget about all that,

622
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: Like I know you could hoop. I watched you growing up,

623
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: like I want you to get back to that. Uh

624
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: and UH. And then the young point guard and see

625
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: people's coming off of his rookie year, coming into his

626
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: second year, and then me and him just formed the

627
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: connection and like finally that live happened because we was arguing.

628
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: He kept h.

629
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: He kept throwing me the UH. Well he was either

630
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: a bounced by or a low pass, and I got

631
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: I got fouled, and then I was going through it.

632
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: I wasn't shooting good. Uh, I didn't have a good

633
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: free I wasn't shooting good at the line. So I

634
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: can't remember, but I wasn't shooting at the line and

635
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: I got filed and I was like, throw the ball up,

636
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: and then he was like, uh. He was like, well,

637
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: if you dunk the fucker, you ain't got worry about

638
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: shooting free throws. I was like, I will dunk if

639
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: you stop throwing sh it down to my knees. He

640
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: was like, all right, next one, I'm gona throw up then,

641
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: and the next one he threw up, and I dunked.

642
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: That shot was like keep throwing it up. And that's

643
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: how that ship became that it was deadly that How

644
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: easy was them buckets? She was getting fucking with CP

645
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: on the pick and rolls? Easy?

646
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: Simple, turn the game simple. I mean, it was a

647
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: It was a nice connection. It was a very nice connection.

648
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: We could read each other. It was like playing a

649
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: video game.

650
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: How good was he?

651
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: Though?

652
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: Man, Cep is good. CP is like extremely good. He

653
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: sees the game too smart. But Cep so like he

654
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: sees the game ahead. He could tell you what's gonna happen.

655
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: As he's saying that, he could set up plays like

656
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: I would get like I would have like whatever rebounds

657
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: I might have fourteen rebounds in eight points at the

658
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: end of the game, like tell somebody to get your

659
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: dumb all right, uh do this, do this, do this,

660
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: d d I'm throwing it up. You'd be right there

661
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: like I do what he said and then boom show

662
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: like right there, like he can he can get anybody

663
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 3: a bucket, like when he wanted to get somebody a bucket,

664
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: and you know, manipulating the game.

665
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: I think he gets a bad rep, you know, because

666
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: I play the handful of yearsm you did, and when

667
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: you get those arguments, it's not that he He's just

668
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: an old school dude.

669
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: So he's straight to you. He's nothing bullshit.

670
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: And people if you soft or not soft, if you

671
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: just not, you are competit. So yeah, it's gonna be.

672
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: But I mean to me, he wants to win. He's

673
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: a leader, yes, and great to play with. It will

674
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: get you a bucket.

675
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: I agree. I could ride with anybody.

676
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: See I never had a problem with because I knew

677
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: like he wants to win.

678
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 4: That's it.

679
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: Like I could ride with anybody that's putting in the

680
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: work like that and challenge. It's not like he wasn't

681
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: putting work and challenging. He putting in work and just

682
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: challenging the right he has a right to challenge you,

683
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like great players are going

684
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: to do that because he's trying to take it to

685
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: another He want to win, and that's that's like cpso

686
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: thing is like, you know, even the dirty stuff he

687
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: did or whatever, it's like Ceep is a competitor. He's

688
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: one of the best competitors that this game has had. Uh,

689
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: you know, and everybody don't take it the right way,

690
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: but you know, if you can appreciate the competitor, you

691
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: appreciate the game, then you appreciate him.

692
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 4: To y'all went fifty six games, PAIGEA.

693
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: Bonds, David westbo Pete lost to the Spurs in seventy

694
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: round two. What was the best memories of that year?

695
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: You know, that's that was one of my funnest years,

696
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: even though you know we lost Theratoris.

697
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just a fun pure year.

698
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

699
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we knew Orleans, Like I remember even after we

700
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: did our exit meetings, like we brung it in and

701
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: was like I can't remember our champ but we brung

702
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: it in, like we we knew this team probably wasn't

703
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: gonna be together and it was just like great chemistry

704
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 3: and a lot of love, like like we got the

705
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: most out of what we can get, and it's like

706
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: we lost to a better team, like you know, and

707
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: it just was what it was. But it was like

708
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: it was such a great unit. It was like a family,

709
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: and especially what New Orleans was going through at that time,

710
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: it really bought it really brought us together and it

711
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: felt like a family.

712
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: Then what does that team rake in terms of most

713
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 4: talented you.

714
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: It probably is like the third most talented team that

715
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: I've been on, Dallas.

716
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: Dallas was the best.

717
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 3: Uh, the Knicks will be second with Mellow and Yeah

718
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: and Ja Kid and Raymond and Sean and j R.

719
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: Novak and everybody.

720
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah that that that well, next tape exactly like like that,

721
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: you know the King like that. That was a real yeah.

722
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah we had like that was a fun time at

723
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: the City Live man on the stand, Dude. I never

724
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: thought I would be able to play with the player

725
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: like Kmar Yeah.

726
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we the type of duce to just yeah.

727
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: So then when we was on the same team, like

728
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: I was like this is it. I got another dog,

729
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: Like right on the next like if I don't got

730
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: it this night I know he do, like you know,

731
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: it was it was. It was nothing but respect.

732
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: Olympic basketball alternate in eight, made the feet roster in ten,

733
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: and then the Olympics in twelve. What was that experience,

734
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: like representing your country?

735
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 4: It was? It was, it was.

736
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: It was one of those experiences that you don't think

737
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: that you're going to get to accomplished, especially the way

738
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: my career was gone. I didn't think that, like I

739
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: was gonna get that opportunity. When when when my agent

740
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: told me and told me that cor Angelo like wanted

741
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 3: me to even try out for the first initial roster.

742
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: I was the arganizer at my mom house and I

743
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: was like wait what. I was like, hold on, I

744
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: was in the house.

745
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: And when else?

746
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: I said wait again and he was like, uh, the

747
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 3: USA team, whence you come? I was like there, That's

748
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: all I needed was an invite. And at the time,

749
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: you know, I was coming off injury, so I wanted

750
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 3: to showcase and really turn my career around. And you know,

751
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: Jay cor Angelo gave me the opportunity and put me

752
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 3: on that stage. Then making the team like I was

753
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: happy to be there, but then making the team was

754
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: a great accomplishment and then to be able to just

755
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: be in practice to sharpen your tools with all of

756
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: them dudes, because that was the best part about it

757
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: was competing against each other in practice. You just you

758
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: got so much better, You learned so much, you know,

759
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: from the guys over there. And then fast forward, fast

760
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 3: forward to being able to walk during the opening ceremonies

761
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: like every athlete representing their country, and then taking that walk,

762
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: and then winning gold medal, and then again having another

763
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 3: one of those surreal moments where you're on stage and

764
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: you're looking around like wow, like this is what it's like.

765
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:39,959
Speaker 4: It was just a feeling.

766
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: I was like, this is gonna be incredible for my

767
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: legacy and my family to be like we have a

768
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: gold medalist in our family, and I was I was

769
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: super proud about that.

770
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 4: That's Uh.

771
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: Any great stories to come to mind, I mean the stars,

772
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: stars are their code.

773
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: Brian Wade, Mellow Kid to name a few.

774
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: Any crazy practice stories, bust stories, playing eating gas stations.

775
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: Uh, there's just so many stories. I think it was.

776
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: It was always live. Bron was always the jokester. He

777
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: kept it loose and funny all time. Bron is actually

778
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 3: funny as hell. Mellow controlled the music. He was like radio.

779
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: I hain Melo always had a boom box coming on

780
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: the bus. And then it was like the young crew

781
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: because you had young James, young Kdie, young Russ and

782
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: they was all together and they kept like the youth

783
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: of it. So it was like a great man yup.

784
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah yeah.

785
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: Cole was the older dude that wasn't trying to hear

786
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: all that laughing and joking like like Broley playing Koche

787
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 3: over there, corner of icing, like what is this new stuff?

788
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 5: Uh uh?

789
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, Cope was like cod and then uh, you

790
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: know everybody else.

791
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 2: Personalities twenty ten, Charlotte, we got the number one deepens

792
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: in the league. Coach Labor, Joe Wallace, what you remember

793
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: about that year?

794
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: Do you remember when m J came took over practice? Yes,

795
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: him got into the practice. Yes, I tell.

796
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: People don't remember. Don't believe that story. I said he

797
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: gave it, took over practice. Me and him got into it,

798
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: and he started telling me about taking off his shoes

799
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: and yes, all this accomplishment. He was, I'll never beat

800
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: m J and all this, and we was going there

801
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: and they beat us and practice Yeah yeah, yeah, but

802
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: stack was it was DJ august was across the gym

803
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: screaming at him.

804
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't think that gonna be here.

805
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 6: Them back, and I was like, is he talking to

806
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 6: j Oh that's twenty years ago.

807
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 4: You can't do it now.

808
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: He wasn't just killing, but he put the winning attitude

809
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: in the second team pumped in him and DJ Augustine

810
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: was on.

811
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 4: He turned to MJ.

812
00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: Stephry D just started making everything like, yup, MJ, that's crazy.

813
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: Tredy the Dallas.

814
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: You join a stacked team, no pun intended, Dirk j Kids,

815
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: Sewn Mary and Jason Terry.

816
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: What was that team like Jason.

817
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: Terror man Jet, Yeah, it was a It was a

818
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 3: team like full of characters and full of like Stack said,

819
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: when we when we were the untentes, we were all

820
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: guys who had been on different journeys, accomplished different things

821
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: in the league, had you know, got paid already, and

822
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: now it was like on a team together and really

823
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: legit just want to win like uh and that's why

824
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: that unit came together. It was an incredible team. Incredible right,

825
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 3: Dirk played basketball I've never seen before like I mean,

826
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 3: that dude was a machine during that run. And but

827
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: Jet like Jet hit big shots.

828
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: For us, j hit big shots. You beat the ship

829
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: umber them, took out ship out of us.

830
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 4: Swept us.

831
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember I was telling family like,

832
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: yeah here I got I got you in the next round,

833
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: like when we come back to LA because I never

834
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: thought like it was gonna be a sweet but yeah

835
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: it was after that.

836
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, we but that journey was crazy.

837
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: So you beat us?

838
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: Then Okatonio. First we started with you beat us in

839
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: the first round.

840
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 3: No, you guys were it was Portland started, Yeah, Portland,

841
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: and then we got y'all in the second, and then we

842
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 3: had okay, see team man, it was tough with James

843
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: and Jane was still there. James like that was a

844
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: real tough team Kurk and then uh and then the

845
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: finals against the Heat. You know, they had just so

846
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: bron that summer.

847
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: They were the underdogs though, remember everyone everybody.

848
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: That they had because they had the names.

849
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: But when you look at the roster and the guys

850
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: that had the better team.

851
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 4: I agree, yeah, I agree.

852
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: On what was that finals matchup?

853
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: Like obviously that all the hype surrounding that team and

854
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: and the Big three and you know, like I said,

855
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: Dirk was on another planet that whole season.

856
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: But what was that finals experience?

857
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: Like it was incredible that uh that first game, so

858
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: like you could watch Tate, you could you know, try

859
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: to anticipate. They shocked us with how five explosive and

860
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 3: athletic they were d.

861
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: Wade and bron on the wings.

862
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: I mean it was like a Dunk show like that

863
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: first game, and it was like we would call off

864
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: guard by it. We had to make adjustments to it.

865
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: And the series. They was whooping us the second game,

866
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: like and we were still almost in the shell shock.

867
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: What turned the series was when d Wade hit the

868
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: the three bar bench and held it up and then

869
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 3: like walked by the whole bench like super distions.

870
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: After that, it was like all right, wake up, Like nah,

871
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: I just went him like okay, all right, like I

872
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: don't care what happened, like nah, And we was literally

873
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: in the huddle and like shifted for us at that point,

874
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: and then we got back to us and then started

875
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: rolling them off.

876
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 4: Derk was on one. Yeah, yeah, Derk was playing at

877
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: a whole different level.

878
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 2: Twenty eleven, you go to the Knicks talk about the

879
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 2: nixt tape we had. We just had shump on shump

880
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: and he was talking about it that team had a

881
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: lot he didn't mention Yester y'all was low was a

882
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: lot of it was the coach. I got two questions though,

883
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: with all that talent, why didn't it work?

884
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: And the and the second question is who's to blame?

885
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: I can't do that going answer just the first one.

886
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: That was a hell of a table. It was it

887
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: we allowed. We allowed the success that we had get

888
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: to us and and we was in chill mode.

889
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 4: Like got can place it? Yeah, like as if we

890
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 4: had done something. Uh.

891
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: And I remember me and Jason was just coming off

892
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: of off the championship from Dallas, and then Jason came

893
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 3: till two years later and then so now we're making

894
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: this run and it was like, uh, we were both

895
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: trying to like you know, speaking into existence different part

896
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 3: of the locker room. So Jason would take certain task,

897
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: I would take a certain tasks, and and we were rolling.

898
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: Uh.

899
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 3: And then up until the playoffs was some We won

900
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: the first series and then we got laxed. We were

901
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: supposed to so we finished we fa finished Uh we

902
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 3: finished Uh Boston, We we beat Boston.

903
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 2: See where you guys going into the playoffs, I don't remember. Yeah,

904
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: we were top three. Maybe Miami was one of two

905
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: or three. Yeah, we we were top three. I can't

906
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: remember of Miami or I don't know. If India, I

907
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: don't know who had to know because we had home

908
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: so I think Miami might have been one, might have

909
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 2: been two or something like that, and we was whooping

910
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: Miami that year, like uh, I mean because Mela was

911
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: like uh that year. And so so we played the

912
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: Boston series, we had to play one more we.

913
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 4: Had to play.

914
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,479
Speaker 3: We should have we should have beat them, we should

915
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: have handled them, and we should have swept them, I

916
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: think it was. And then we ended up having to

917
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: play the five games or six games, so if it

918
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: was if it was six, we should have beat them

919
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: in five, and then we end up having to go

920
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: to the sixth. The sixth game, Indiana Pacers had wrapped

921
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: up their series. If we say we should have won

922
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: five and then we would have we both would have

923
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: had just, say three or four days arrest or whatever

924
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 3: and then play. We had to play an extra game.

925
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: So then we finished on Friday, and the game one

926
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 3: of the playoffs for the next series was on a Sunday.

927
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 3: It was an early game and we didn't have a

928
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: shoot around, so they canceled shoot around, which me and

929
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: Jay are like, wait, no, no, no, no, like we we

930
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 3: got we're going to another series, Like we gotta prepare

931
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 3: for this team. Oh no, we're gonna We're gonna do it.

932
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna do We're gonna go over that shoot around

933
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: the next morning, all during the morning of the game.

934
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: So we ended up not being able to have a

935
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: shoot around, so we ended up not being able.

936
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 4: To go over our strategy.

937
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: So Indiana comes in and sneaks game one, so now

938
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: we're behind the eight ball. We win Game two, we

939
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: go to back to Indiana. One one they blitzed us,

940
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: so we come back to New York down three to one.

941
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 3: We win the game in New York, so now we

942
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: take it back and then they they ended the series

943
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: in Indiana, and then that was that. I really honestly

944
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: feel like how we got past that. I feel like

945
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: we we probably we had a legitimate shot to win

946
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: the chip that year.

947
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: Who came out the East that year that was twelve.

948
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 3: That's yep. I want to say that's my Miami. When

949
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: Miami wanted the year because Nami wanted. The year after

950
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: that was that was Miami was trying to go for

951
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: the back to back and I really feel like we

952
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: would have beat him that year with that next team.

953
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: No offense to him. I just I feel like we

954
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 3: had the unit for it. How great was Mellow Mellow

955
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: was was was on. He was like I at that time.

956
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: I mean thought he was challenging for the best player

957
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: in the league. Uh like at that moment because he

958
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: was doing everything. Uh you know, he could rebound the

959
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 3: ball past the ball, he was big and see the defense.

960
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: He was scoring crazy. He was just super locked in.

961
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: And then again we had all the pieces around it.

962
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: Tap back rebound known for that. You can't get that.

963
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: What how did that come about? I've been able to

964
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: get the rebound. So you just thinking just let me

965
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 3: tap it out yep. So so okay, it's funny you

966
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: say that.

967
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: So you never thought about tapping it out so far

968
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 2: that's going to the other end.

969
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 3: So so I would I would like, So I got

970
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: it from the thought of Dennis Robmin. Okay, right, So

971
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: Robin was a great rebounder and he would do it

972
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: and just keep tapping the ball till he got it

973
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: to him. Like to himself and you know you're doing

974
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 3: him crazy, like you know, and you finally get the ball.

975
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 3: When when I started becoming a good rebounder and then

976
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 3: guys were you know, they're double team on box out

977
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: and stuff, I wasn't like, I don't know what made

978
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 3: him crafty to be able to do that, but I

979
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: tried that, but I couldn't do it. And then so

980
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I was more I could

981
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: jump higher and more athletic this way. So I was like,

982
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 3: all right, I'm going to treat this like it's almost volleyball,

983
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 3: and I'll jump everybody. I know where all my guys

984
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: are offensively, because as we're moving, I know the plays

985
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: were right, I still know where they're at, so I

986
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: can always find one of them blindly. So it always

987
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: kind of like a blind pass. So if it went out,

988
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: I just tried to, you know, tip it to where

989
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 3: I knew, like one of my teammates were gonna be

990
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: started at a lot of a lot of players, a lot.

991
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: Of all the big men doing well. I mean, it's crazy.

992
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell the story.

993
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: Because we haven't had him on the show yet, I'm

994
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 2: looking forward to get him, so I'm with the Clippers

995
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 2: at this time, and young DeAndre Jordan's starting to kind

996
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: of find his legs.

997
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: And I used to tell him, Bro, watch Tyson Chandler.

998
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: He plays his role. He blockshots, he rebounds, he tips

999
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: that motherfucker out, and he plays defense. Like watch Tyson.

1000
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: He's an Olympian, he's an All Star. He's getting paid

1001
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: because he was trying to figure out, like what's my role?

1002
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: Blake and CP or this, Bro, you're just as good

1003
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: and just as important, but you're not that type of player.

1004
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 2: Like watch Tyson.

1005
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: If you start watching Tyson, and sure enough, the nigga

1006
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: started watching you and tipping and rebound. Next thing you know,

1007
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: he's on the Olympic team and All Defense and All Star.

1008
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 2: And I was just like, watch Tyson.

1009
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 3: I just ran into DJ did you and me and

1010
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: jj I never really had you know, we see what

1011
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: it's kind of moved, you know, and we've never really

1012
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 3: had that moment, right, And so I saw him, you know, here,

1013
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: and I went over to I congratulated him. You know,

1014
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, because I was so happy for him that,

1015
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: you know, he accomplished that. And I only tell him, like,

1016
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: I'm so happy for you, bro, and he pulled me in.

1017
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 3: He was like, man, I just want to tell you, like,

1018
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: you know, I appreciate you know, watching you from afar,

1019
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 3: Like you don't know what you did?

1020
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: Right, God, Bro, I told you.

1021
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: I used to tell him to watch Tyson Chandler Bro,

1022
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: watch film, watch the games, watch Tyson.

1023
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: And it meant it meant so much neat, you know

1024
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: what I mean. Just hearing that phone, it was like,

1025
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: because it's all.

1026
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: Of that's really dope. Yeah, the motherfucker listening. You dealt

1027
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: with some a lot of stuff, you know, a lot

1028
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: of injury in your career. But twenty twelve Defensive Player

1029
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: of the Year. How did that feel?

1030
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: The bit?

1031
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: But have that award just you know, to put that

1032
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: on the man A way home? Man, it was it

1033
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: felt dope to finally because I felt like DJ right.

1034
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: I felt like damn, Like I feel like I'm changing teams,

1035
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm putting in work, I'm working my ass off, like

1036
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm helping you. Like I felt like

1037
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: I was just important as the person I was storing it.

1038
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: I'm just not getting alcolades. And it's like I was like,

1039
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: you know, in.

1040
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: My own private time, like I was hurt and angry

1041
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: like you know, like and and so to finally be

1042
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: recognized like for the work that you're putting in, you know,

1043
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: on that type of stage, it was like I was

1044
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: so so appreciative and like you know, like finally like

1045
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 3: finally it's being recognized, you know, the contributions that I'm doing,

1046
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 3: the impact that I'm making, and even like you know,

1047
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 3: thinks like that was great and it being the same

1048
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: thing all like having like it's like that started it.

1049
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 4: Like for me, it's like.

1050
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: Once I don't know who, why, how the ones that

1051
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: started getting recognized. It's like, Okay, now everybody recognized for

1052
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: some reason.

1053
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: I've been doing this though, yeah, I've been doing it.

1054
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: Exactly and I'm just now you're what was that twelve

1055
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: from me or something like that? Like you I'm like,

1056
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: this is no different, Like really I had better years defensively, right,

1057
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: Like I had a better year that year in Dallas,

1058
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 3: like you know, like from what I did to that

1059
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 3: team and this and that, but it wasn't talked about it.

1060
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: I mean it was talked about like there was no accolades, right,

1061
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 3: like you know, from it.

1062
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: Make a few stops on the on the ind of

1063
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: your career, Go back to Dallas, Phoenix, Lakers, Houston, any

1064
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 1: of those teams, any any fun memories that still standing

1065
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: out to you this day.

1066
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 4: A young Phoenix Young book coming in.

1067
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 2: It was cold, young right out the gates. So were

1068
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 2: you there? Was Earls?

1069
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, yeah, So what first first Earl?

1070
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 4: First Earl was.

1071
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah yeah, first, Uh he was I want

1072
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: to say he was assistant.

1073
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: Uh maybe yeah, I want to say his assistant books

1074
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 3: rookie year and then maybe took over during half the

1075
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: year I think this season. Yeah, yeah, I think he

1076
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: took over mid season that year. But I remember the

1077
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: GM there like they had just signed they had just signed.

1078
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: H because the reason why I went to Phoenix my

1079
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: my mom was sick. So my mom was battling cancer

1080
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: at the time. So, uh, because I got better offers elsewhere,

1081
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: but I wanted to stay close those closest I can

1082
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 3: get to l a y I could drive to her

1083
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 3: appointments and stuff like that, or get to her appointments

1084
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 3: and stuff quick. So I signed with the Sons. I

1085
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 3: didn't even I didn't even know the Sun's roster, to

1086
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 3: be honest. And then uh so they had just signed

1087
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: back Eric bledsoe uh and Brandon Knight and that's like

1088
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 3: who they were so high on. They were good players,

1089
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 3: they were like super high on. So then I'm coming

1090
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: and then I played pickups. My first day of pickups,

1091
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: I'm singing a roster like, I'm like, okay, like you

1092
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: know who's on his team.

1093
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 4: And then Book came and.

1094
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: Uh, Book his rookie year, like, and it's our first

1095
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 3: day playing like pick ups. So it's my first day

1096
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 3: meeting and seeing them all. And so we started playing

1097
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 3: and like through you know, the years and like being

1098
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: able to build the chemistry with CP. It's funny. I

1099
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: was just talking to I was talking to a coach

1100
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 3: the CP had, and he was like, man, he was like,

1101
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 3: uh like when CP would like trying to tell a

1102
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 3: big to do something like Tyson used to do it

1103
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: this way, Like Tyson did it this way. I was like,

1104
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 3: that's funny to say.

1105
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: I had never heard that because I was like every

1106
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: god was like, Ceep did it this way.

1107
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: Miss I would try to, you know, imitate. And so

1108
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 3: I was talking a book about different things and so

1109
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: we run, you know, we're playing pick up and I'm

1110
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 3: like bro like and so I'm guarding them. He was

1111
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: able to pick up quick like, yes, I could tell

1112
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: him something once Boom. I told him like, I was like, yo,

1113
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 3: come off this pin down this way you come up.

1114
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 3: This is your looks like, and that's what you're gonna

1115
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: see if you don't got that bob looking. Boom he

1116
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: did and I was like, young players don't work like that,

1117
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 3: like you know, like not like that. And so instantly

1118
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: I know, I was like this kid is special, like

1119
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 3: and he's gonna be special. And I remember afterwards the

1120
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 3: gym was like what do you think? And I was like,

1121
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you. I was like, the

1122
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 3: best player you got on your roster is that kid

1123
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 3: that you drafted devil boom. And he was like what

1124
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 3: He's like really, He's like what do you think about?

1125
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: Uh?

1126
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 4: You know?

1127
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: And I was like, they're good. I'm telling you. I

1128
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 3: was like me them this roster, he better than all

1129
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: of us. That's the best player you got on this roster.

1130
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 3: And he was like really. I was like, who was

1131
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 3: the gym at the time.

1132
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 4: Yep, Ryan McDonald, Uh he was. He was the gym

1133
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 4: at the time.

1134
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: The book was cold. Book came out right out the

1135
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: gates when did you know it was time to walk

1136
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: away from the game nineteen years right?

1137
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, man said, I ain't with it.

1138
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, Bro, I got to come in, bro,

1139
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: because I say, what it took for him to get

1140
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: through through a season. He was dealing with your back, Bronx.

1141
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: My bro couldn't even walk, Bro. And he'll show up

1142
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: game time trying to push through. I've seen it, Bro,

1143
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: I seen it. He was fighting. He was pushing through

1144
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: a lot of ship yeah, bro.

1145
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, because because you know, even even when like

1146
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: I remember the doctor, the doctor who vetoed my trade

1147
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 3: and uh, because I was supposed to go to Okay,

1148
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 3: see before I went to Dollars. So uh so the

1149
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 3: doctor who vetoed my trade said that I wasn't gonna

1150
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: play past my eighth year, uh in the league. And

1151
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 3: you know, you you have to fight through a lot

1152
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 3: of stuff, you know what I mean? And I would

1153
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 3: I put him a lot of work to try to

1154
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 3: like keep myself on the court. You know, a lot

1155
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: of rehab, fall through a lot of stuff, you know,

1156
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 3: a lot of injuries. But you know, I appreciate it

1157
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: now looking and we say, when did I know?

1158
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1159
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: It like I would it became harder and harder to

1160
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 3: bounce back. I rememberhen I was with the like the

1161
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: last year I was with the Lakers, they asked me

1162
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 3: if I could, uh, you know, like the type of

1163
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: minutes that I could play, And I felt like my

1164
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 3: body I felt like I could. I mean, my mind

1165
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: felt like I could. And then I started realizing I

1166
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 3: was out there and my body couldn't. And then so

1167
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 3: that was one side of it, But the bigger side

1168
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: of it was just like I would come into the

1169
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 3: to the gym and just sit in the locker and

1170
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 3: just look at my stuff, like for a long time

1171
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 3: before I put it in. It started getting hard for

1172
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: me just to put my girl on. And I knew

1173
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: at that point, I was like, yeah, it's about that.

1174
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: That damn well, you got to think, I mean, you're

1175
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: one of the rare dudes. You kg Brown Code that

1176
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: play had more years than like half your life in

1177
00:55:55,120 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: the NBA. Yeah, and you would play nineteen year so

1178
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: you have spent more than half your life in the

1179
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: NBA in the NBA, Like, that's insane to think, bro.

1180
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: It is you know how we always say Father time

1181
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: is undefeated. I want to read y'all something and something.

1182
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: Father time is not undefeated because of knowledge, know how

1183
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: skilled wisdom and energy is transferred from us to the

1184
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: youth and for the time has to start all over

1185
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 2: again with the young opponent.

1186
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 4: Our spirit is undefeated. I like that.

1187
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: Okay, damn, okay, that's a good one, right now, that's

1188
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: a good one.

1189
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: I've known this motherfucker since two thousand and seventy. I

1190
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: ain't never said nothing.

1191
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 5: Man.

1192
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 2: Listen, that's beautiful. Man.

1193
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 3: That's like every event you know that you along to

1194
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 3: every young player. That's exactly what you said. Yeah, exactly

1195
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: what it is.

1196
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's handling that knowledge. And I'm sure being

1197
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: the person you are, that was what you just spoke

1198
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: about it about book. You know, we have so much

1199
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: to offer, and we talked about this, I think with

1200
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: our last guest, Kelsey Plumb with the w NBA about

1201
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 1: who were her vet. She's like, we didn't have no vets.

1202
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: And then you see the league now is so young. Yeah,

1203
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: and we had the first I mean, same thing when

1204
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 1: you came in the game. We had you had, Oh,

1205
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: we had niggas. It was thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty nine.

1206
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: Whether they played or not, they added so much to

1207
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: that team, just in knowledge, wisdom, experience, know how, and

1208
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: I feel like sports overall is missing that.

1209
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: Now I'm cool to do it the way J Kid

1210
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: did it though, making it making them coaches.

1211
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 4: That's you know what I'm saying. That's the way you

1212
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 4: got to do one of them. Yeah, you got to

1213
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 4: eat it. Take guys like J Kid did that.

1214
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: Just finished and say just come to the gym like Okay,

1215
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 3: I know you don't want to, but just come in

1216
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 3: do what you're already doing. Like it's so like, hasm

1217
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 3: what has them did? Every team needs has them? Yeah,

1218
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: like every team like it keeps the team together, like.

1219
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: And you know you you have it.

1220
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 3: If you got all the youth as competition, they all

1221
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 3: in the same place, you need need somebody to help

1222
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 3: lead the way. Now you got young players leading young players.

1223
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 3: They don't know what they talking about. They don't know

1224
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: what they talking about. And it's crazy that they even

1225
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: step up to say it.

1226
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 4: Like you hear some time.

1227
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: You're not a vet, bro if you don't be quiet,

1228
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 3: like if you don't stop like there's vets in this league.

1229
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 3: There was real vets, like real vets.

1230
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: Right, It's unfortunate, man, I mean, after spending half your

1231
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: life in the game you love, who were you off

1232
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: the court once you finished?

1233
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: Did it take time to find out? Yeah, I'm still

1234
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 3: in that really heard you retire. I've been away like

1235
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 3: two years, two years and not still but still in

1236
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 3: still in not playing mode. And then like your time

1237
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 3: that you have, you have so much time now you

1238
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 3: spent like you said, and not even the nineteen years

1239
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: in the league that I spent, but from being twelve

1240
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 3: years old, like and starting the journey. That's all you know,

1241
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 3: Like all you know is like hitting the gym and likes,

1242
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 3: everything is directed, right, Like there's not a time that

1243
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: I didn't have a goal that I was seeking and

1244
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 3: super motivated for, right, So like, this is the first

1245
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 3: time of my life that I don't have like something

1246
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 3: in front.

1247
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: Of me that it's like and we're such creatures that happen.

1248
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: So we're on the scheduled time and that's the part

1249
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: that ship is so to a t. And then once

1250
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: you don't have it no more, it's scary.

1251
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, for sure. I was like at first, I

1252
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 4: was like I didn't know what it was.

1253
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: I get to sleep in, I get to do this,

1254
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: all that, all that you so excited quick.

1255
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 4: I couldn't wait for it.

1256
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 3: Quick or quick. And JR told me that, like we're

1257
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: in above JR. I was like, what's the cause I

1258
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 3: knew I was headed to retirement. So I was like,

1259
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: and I knew he had gone through it. And then

1260
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 3: he came back, you know, in the bubble and then

1261
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 3: played and then so I was like, yo, okay, you've

1262
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 3: been out for a couple of years, and like, what's

1263
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: the toughest part And he was like, the toughest part

1264
00:59:55,080 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: is time, man, And I was like, okay, really And

1265
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 3: I couldn't quite grasp that until I was in that

1266
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 3: position and I was like, I got it, Like and

1267
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: now I understand because again, like you said, we it's

1268
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: always a training like okay, be the gym this time,

1269
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 3: do this, you got this, you got obligation. It's all

1270
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 3: set up so you just like a machine going and

1271
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 3: then once you're about that machine, it's like, okay, now

1272
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: it's on you.

1273
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 4: You want that time to relax after two minutes. I

1274
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 4: need I need. I'm a motivated person there. I need

1275
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 4: to be doing something, you know.

1276
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: So that's why it was great for me to come

1277
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: to the gym and also like I'm a creative so

1278
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: it's like, I know you want them tall dude to

1279
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: really get up like he's six two coolest head him

1280
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: the same way, you know. Yeah, the nd season tournament

1281
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: thoughts on that, oh.

1282
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 4: Ship man, I don't understand it.

1283
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: I like described to me and broken down by like

1284
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 3: three different players and exactly it's not I still don't understand.

1285
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 3: Like I was with DeMar Deroze and then I was like, bro,

1286
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 3: what is and he was trying to help me get what.

1287
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I don't get it, Like

1288
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: I don't get what the I mean. I hope it

1289
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 3: brings some excitement to the game maybe watch yeah, Like,

1290
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 3: but I don't understand what's gonna be the benefits. The

1291
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 3: reason I like it because they I mean, I didn't

1292
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 3: understand as well. But all the games count and they

1293
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 3: are all gonna matter. That I understand, So I like that.

1294
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 2: But just the fact that they make it that tournament

1295
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: during the middle.

1296
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 4: Of the season, that's what it is? It like because

1297
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: is it grab from like soccer fall? It is right

1298
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 4: that thing. So I thought that how you feel about

1299
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 4: the I kind of like that. The I love it.

1300
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 3: The overtime like points that they did, like I don't

1301
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 3: know how many points, I mean, how many points they

1302
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 3: would do, but I like it. It was set seven now,

1303
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 3: like a set numbers.

1304
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had the first.

1305
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 3: Overtime with the MAVs yesterday and they put the set points, Like, okay,

1306
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: first to seven, clock is off, so every possession matters over.

1307
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: Time, it's eighty to eighty two. You go to eighty nine, Yeah,

1308
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: you got it.

1309
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 4: You gotta play. I like that.

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01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 3: I like that, Like I don't know if it's gonna

1311
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: be seven or what, but I like that because you

1312
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: gotta play now every point matters, and then it becomes

1313
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 3: real strategy.

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01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: And they got the flopping foul, which I love because

1315
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: there's too much that is terrible. And then with all

1316
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: the bullshit reughing. If you get your first challenge right,

1317
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: you get a second, and I like that.

1318
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 4: That should be yeah, yeah, like you shouldn't get penalized

1319
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 4: getting it right, forgetting the best player in the world

1320
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 4: right now. It's a tough question, that is mm hmm.

1321
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: Right now after the finals, your kids played the best, Yeah,

1322
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 3: your kids, It's been the best this year.

1323
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 4: The world. Right now, I gotta go yr Ki. You

1324
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 4: can't go wrong.

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01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: With that, How good is Luca? I mean you get

1326
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: to see him on a day to day basis. How

1327
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: special to see special?

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01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: I feel like it's this generation's magic, like though more

1329
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: of a score. And what I mean by that like

1330
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 3: not that the games are similar. He controls the whole game, yes,

1331
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 3: and the creativity of what they play with. Nobody had

1332
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 3: ever seen magic, right, and we never seen Luca.

1333
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 4: Luca. He they they broke the code of the league, Luca.

1334
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 3: And these are slow, unathletic players that are like moving

1335
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 3: at a different pace. Right, We were athletic and move fast.

1336
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: They just slow down and and he does it.

1337
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 4: He doesn't.

1338
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 3: In practice, he does stuff that like I've never seen before,

1339
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 3: and that's difficult for Like, I didn't seen a bunch

1340
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 3: of players like he does some of the craziest stuff

1341
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 3: in practice. And the dude doesn't laughing and smile.

1342
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 4: Like like magic.

1343
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 3: That's why I say magic, because his personality is always love,

1344
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 3: smile and love is easy doing.

1345
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: He's special. The King is still pushing strong. What what's

1346
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: that's incredible? What he Yeah, it's unbelievable. What's the differences

1347
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: between Braun and Kobe? You know both, You've seen both

1348
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 2: what's your what's what what's the difference that you see

1349
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 2: in between?

1350
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 3: I would say COB's mentality point blank exactly. That's that's

1351
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 3: the clearest thing.

1352
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 4: Yep.

1353
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 3: COB's mentality is you know, unmatched, just like m J

1354
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 3: point two Braun. It's a physical specimen like I mean,

1355
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 3: Bron is something that we've never seen before.

1356
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 4: The mascot for the Ultimate Basketball like you're gonna create.

1357
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:43,479
Speaker 3: Is Bron straight up like he Yeah, yeah, I would

1358
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 3: say that's the difference between the two.

1359
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: He is definitely that. Before the show, we spoke on boxing.

1360
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: Did you ever choose training to get in shape?

1361
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1362
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 2: Boxing Jack Jack wanted to ask if you look like

1363
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: a d when you trained for boxing?

1364
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 4: That that was nasty? I was that was who put

1365
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 4: that out there like that?

1366
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: That's like that.

1367
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 4: Don't do him like that. That's what I don't do

1368
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 4: him like my man working training.

1369
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: But you can tell they're not even training him the

1370
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: box and they just threw him in there to hurt

1371
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: the camera on exactly because I like he was wide

1372
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: open a lot of times, but Buddy just swung up

1373
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 2: one time as you.

1374
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 4: Your list, he's too close. That's something like this. He

1375
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 4: put his X. That was crazy. It's a great way

1376
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 4: to good in shape. But he you know, he needs

1377
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 4: a lot of work.

1378
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: Bro.

1379
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 4: And I'm in the boxing space right now.

1380
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean you close to all the way polish, but

1381
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: I look better than that.

1382
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 4: I look better than that for sure.

1383
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: Tice man, we appreciate your time. Were coming down to

1384
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: quick hitters. The first thing to come to mind. Let

1385
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: us know top five centers of all time in your opinion?

1386
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 3: Share kareem will cheat code. Yeah, I'm gonna throw your

1387
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 3: kitchen there.

1388
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 2: That boy down in Houston was nice.

1389
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, sorry, I don't know how I did that.

1390
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 4: That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. One album you can listen

1391
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 4: to with on repeat with no skips.

1392
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,479
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's this is I got. I got three,

1393
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 3: give give us all. I could go all eyes on

1394
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 3: me yep, yep, Doggy Style, Yes Coasts, good care Man City,

1395
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 3: West Coast, and uh forty major.

1396
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 6: Come on.

1397
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 3: Bubble bubble hey to start that ding that from start

1398
01:06:59,040 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 3: to finish.

1399
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 4: Take a Niggas ship click click.

1400
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: Yes now riding sideways Yeah, bron m J Kobe rank.

1401
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 4: Them damn that's M one.

1402
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 5: H M one.

1403
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 4: Bron Kobe.

1404
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: I can't go wrong either, way according to our barber

1405
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: here is he here.

1406
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 4: Even even doing a lot later.

1407
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: But he word is Justin Bieber was baptizing your bathtub.

1408
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 2: Any truth to that?

1409
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 5: Really?

1410
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 2: How that happened?

1411
01:07:55,600 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 3: Random? Random? I'm living in New York. I'm playing for

1412
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 3: the Knicks. I got close with Justin like maybe a

1413
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 3: couple of years before that.

1414
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 5: And then.

1415
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:17,560
Speaker 3: I'm coming from a game and they hit me to

1416
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 3: come over by the crib, or to come to the crib.

1417
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, I'll be there in

1418
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 3: a second. When I get back to the crib. You know,

1419
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 3: he was going through some things. He had a pastor

1420
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 3: come over, so we all was just there, you know, chilling,

1421
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 3: and then uh uh he said he wanted to get

1422
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 3: baptized that night.

1423
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

1424
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 3: And then so that's when you want to get baptized

1425
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 3: in that So that's why they called. I called the

1426
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 3: pastor over, and then so then I called I'm in

1427
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 3: I'm in the apartment at the time, living in I'm like,

1428
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 3: you know, one of the high rises, and I had

1429
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 3: the guy's number who would like open up the like

1430
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 3: the gym for me which had a pool and all

1431
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 3: of that, and so I'm hitting him and he not

1432
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 3: hit me back, and so I'm like damn, and I'm

1433
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 3: like damn, JB. I know you want to do this tonight,

1434
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 3: but I don't know how because I can't get the pool.

1435
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 3: And then the pastor was like, well you're a big guy,

1436
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 3: like how big is your tub? And I'm like, uh really,

1437
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 3: I'm like I do actually got a big tub, so

1438
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 3: if y'all want to use that, you can. They were like,

1439
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 3: just I want to do this, and I was like

1440
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 3: all right, So I went and filled up the bathtub

1441
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 3: and let them have their moment, and uh, he had it.

1442
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 3: Then he left his draws in my daughter's room.

1443
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 4: But get your.

1444
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 5: Jaws back justin. Man, that's the shitty beavers.

1445
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 2: Shitty be.

1446
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 4: Has clean drawers.

1447
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 5: Random.

1448
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 2: First thing you do in the morning. Last thing you

1449
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: do before you go to sleep. First thing, uh, drink

1450
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: glass of water right when I wake up? Uh before

1451
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: I go to sleep, pray one guess you'd like to

1452
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 2: see on All the Smoke, but but you have to

1453
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: help us get your answer on the show.

1454
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 3: I wanted to be here, so I'm happy to be here.

1455
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 3: That happened overdue, though I appreciate you all be here. Man,

1456
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 3: All the Smoke KG already been on. Yeah, she's been on. Yeah,

1457
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 3: all the dudes he liked.

1458
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 4: Mm hmm yeh damning we got you know, count put

1459
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 4: us over this in your organization that we ain't had

1460
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 4: no dirty. Uh you got dirt, j kid, we haven't

1461
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 4: had dirt. And that's a concusation. We need to have you.

1462
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: We're supposed to have Cube tomorrow but he had to

1463
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: cancel last minute family emergency.

1464
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: But we haven't that you or Dirk. Dirk is our boy.

1465
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 2: We need to get Dirk on wetalking about that.

1466
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 4: You can't be mad at you can't be mad at still.

1467
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 4: But we were just doing our job over Okay, I

1468
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 4: got Dirk.

1469
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 3: I hope get Dirk is like Dirk is not the

1470
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 3: and not like thatgas. But Dirk is not the.

1471
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: Person you think right, no question. I don't know him

1472
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: at all, Jersey Sign. He's married to a black woman.

1473
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jersey in my house, Dirk's is one coming to

1474
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: the gym.

1475
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 4: Yeah you saw us to go you know, keep it

1476
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 4: at the.

1477
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: Barbecue, you know, you know yeah, yeah what tyson man.

1478
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time and traansulations on a long career.

1479
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: That's the luck with everything, and you know we continue

1480
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 1: to wish you nothing but the best man. So that's

1481
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: a Wrapson Chandler. You catches so show Time Basketball YouTube

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01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: and the iHeart Platform black effects and is finest. We'll

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01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: see y'all next week. La curl lights King forever you did.