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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori

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Speaker 1: with you along with Michael Kremo. One of his books,

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Speaker 1: of course, the Forbidden Archaeologist. Books are all available through

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Speaker 1: his website Amazon. Just go check to check them out, Michael.

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Speaker 1: About a month ago, the government released its report on

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Speaker 1: unidentified aerial phenomena, and it didn't really say too much.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that? Well, I think you're

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Speaker 1: absolutely right about that. There was so much hyke. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everyone was expecting something more than I think actually happened.

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Speaker 1: All they essentially said is what they've always been saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there are unidentified aerial phenomena, but you know, they're not

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Speaker 1: ready to say these things are made by intelligent beings

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Speaker 1: from other planets. It seems the most they're willing to

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Speaker 1: say is, well, yes, there are some things we can't

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Speaker 1: explain at the present moment, but we think we will

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Speaker 1: be able to explain to them. And yeah, they may

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Speaker 1: be aerial phenomenon, whether phenomenon, you know, something like that,

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Speaker 1: or perhaps technological developments made by other countries like China

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Speaker 1: and North Korea, or Russia, for example, or perhaps different

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Speaker 1: agencies of our own government have these technologies that they

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Speaker 1: have developed that that's basically what they said, And there

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Speaker 1: may be some things that we can't explain at the

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Speaker 1: present moment, but the explanations are most likely to be

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Speaker 1: the ones I just listed. So, and were you disappointed

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Speaker 1: in the report? I kind of expected in an advance

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Speaker 1: for it to be pretty much what it was. I

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Speaker 1: think they have even said so on some interviews that

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Speaker 1: I did in the months leading up to the release,

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Speaker 1: so I wasn't very surprised. As far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 1: there are UFOs that come from other planets, other dimensions.

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Speaker 1: I think there they do exist, and there may be

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Speaker 1: some scientists, a few of them that are prepared to

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Speaker 1: admit that. For example, there was this professor Lobe of

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Speaker 1: the Lobe from Harvard University in the astronomy department there

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, when this object flew by

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Speaker 1: the Earth called the it's called yeah, yeah, he said

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Speaker 1: that that could very likely be a probe from another

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Speaker 1: planet in another solar system, not our own, that entered

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Speaker 1: our solar system, and it's being propelled by solar winds,

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Speaker 1: and you know, so There are some few scientists who

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Speaker 1: are prepared to admit these things, but I think this

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Speaker 1: most recent report, although it's good in the sense that

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Speaker 1: they acknowledge that some of these unidentified aerial phenomenon were

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Speaker 1: recorded by military pilots kids show up on radar. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they did make some interesting admissions, but as far as

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Speaker 1: what they actually are, I don't think that any expectations

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Speaker 1: that they were going to say these are extraterrestrial objects

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Speaker 1: made by some extraterrestrial intelligence. I don't think that if

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Speaker 1: anybody was expecting that, it didn't happen. Michael, before the break,

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Speaker 1: when you were talking about the ancient Sanskrits, didn't Robert Oppenheimer,

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Speaker 1: the father our atomic bomb, use those Sanskrits to prove

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Speaker 1: to himself that there was an atomic bomb detonated way

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Speaker 1: gone back. It appears that way. In addition to being

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Speaker 1: a great physicist who was part of the American program

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Speaker 1: to develop an atomic bomb during World War Two. In

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Speaker 1: addition to being a physicist, he was a student of

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Speaker 1: the ancient Sanskrit writings of India, and when the first

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Speaker 1: atomic bomb, well supposedly the first the first atomic bomb

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Speaker 1: was tested at Alamagardo in New Mexico in nineteen forty five.

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Speaker 1: He was in the bunker when it was set off,

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Speaker 1: and there was this huge flash of light and huge blast,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he began quoting some Sanskrit verses from

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Speaker 1: a text called the boggabod Guta and yeah, we're compared

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Speaker 1: this to the light of a million sons. They were

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Speaker 1: describing a weapon that, you know, these ancient Sanskrit writings

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Speaker 1: the bromostra and in the Piranhas and the Bogada. You know,

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Speaker 1: there are verses that say, such a thing happens. It's

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Speaker 1: like you have a million sons all at one place,

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Speaker 1: you know, so you can imagine the power of a

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Speaker 1: million sons. That sort of sounds like pretty much what

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Speaker 1: happens when an atomic vambas set off. So yeah, he

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Speaker 1: was interested in that. Yeah. Actually, I've got an offer

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Speaker 1: on my website. Anybody gets my most recent book, My Science,

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Speaker 1: be able to get get a free copy of bagab Giza.

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Speaker 1: And you still there, Michael, Oh yeah, okay, I thought

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Speaker 1: maybe I lost you. Let me ask you this, what

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Speaker 1: is what is called the science term epistemology. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: the branch of philosophy that tells how we know what

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Speaker 1: we think we know. So it's really a foundational issue

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Speaker 1: in science. How how do we get knowledge? What's evidence,

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Speaker 1: what's not evidence. That's the whole branch of science and

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Speaker 1: philosophy that deals with that question, and part of that

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Speaker 1: has to do with what actually exists. Now, many scientists

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Speaker 1: today are committed to an epistemology that recognizes only the

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Speaker 1: existence of gross physical matter. They're not prepared to accept

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Speaker 1: the existence of consciousness and something that can exist apart

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Speaker 1: from matter. So if they start out with that assumption,

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Speaker 1: it kind of limits the kinds of explanations they can

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Speaker 1: offer for things. And they're having a big problem accounting

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Speaker 1: for the existence of consciousness in that way. They keep

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Speaker 1: trying to show that it's just the result of chemical

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Speaker 1: interactions in the brain, but they've never been able to

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Speaker 1: demonstrate that actually, So it's something that we have to

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Speaker 1: be aware of. You know that if we have certain

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Speaker 1: preconceptions about what the limits of evidence are, we can't

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Speaker 1: really say we're considering all the possibilities. Michael Krema with us,

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Speaker 1: and they've forbidden archaeologists. We're going to take calls next

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Speaker 1: hour with Michael's so make sure you're part of the

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Speaker 1: program on that. What would you say is one of

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Speaker 1: the most compelling cases from forbid archeology that you really

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Speaker 1: just think this is it? Well, I think one of

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Speaker 1: the really compelling cases is the discoveries that were made

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Speaker 1: in the Red Crag Formation in England on the east

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Speaker 1: coast of England. These discoveries were made in the nineteen

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Speaker 1: twenties by a researcher named Jade Really read More Morrier

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Speaker 1: moi R. He was an investigator who did research in

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Speaker 1: the Red Crag Formation, which according to modern geologist, is

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Speaker 1: about two million years old, and there had been some

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Speaker 1: previous discoveries in this formation at a place called Foxhall

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Speaker 1: in eastern England. For example, a human jawbone was found

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Speaker 1: in the Red Crag at Foxhall, sixteen feet deep in

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Speaker 1: the Red Crag Formation. And as I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: scientists today think that formation is about two million years

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Speaker 1: old and maybe even older. So to have humans existing

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Speaker 1: two million years ago completely contradicts the now dominant dominant

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Speaker 1: theories and you know, it's kind of interesting. Jay read

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Speaker 1: Moore had also discovered all kinds of stone tools and

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Speaker 1: artifacts in that those formations, and an international commission of

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Speaker 1: scientists of the leading archaeologists and geologists of Europe gathered

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Speaker 1: together to judge this case and they concluded it was

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Speaker 1: genuine that these discoveries made by Jay reid More are

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Speaker 1: genuinine discoveries, but it sort of got swept under the

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Speaker 1: be quite a significant case because it's very well documented.

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Speaker 1: In your opinion, where does this take us in the

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Speaker 1: future with regards to a civilization or civilizations that were

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Speaker 1: much older than what most people think. What do you

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Speaker 1: think happened to them? Michael? Where'd they go? Very interesting question,

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Speaker 1: and the where it leads, I believe is that it

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Speaker 1: leads to an understanding that there's a cyclical aspect to time.

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Speaker 1: You know, Western sciences was basically based on linear time,

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Speaker 1: which comes out of the Judeo Christian cosmology. Basically, they

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Speaker 1: had a picture in that cosmology where things happen in

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Speaker 1: a linear fashion. God creates the universe, then God creates

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Speaker 1: the first living things, the plants, and then the animals

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Speaker 1: and then the human beings, and the human beings are

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Speaker 1: in the fallen state, so they have to be delivered,

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Speaker 1: so I'm Asia comes to deliver them, and then there's

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Speaker 1: a final judgment and then it's all over, and it

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Speaker 1: just happens once. It happens in that very linear way.

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Speaker 1: So modern science basically accepted because it grew up in

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Speaker 1: Europe at a time when it was under this Judeo

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Speaker 1: Christian cosmology, and they more or less just adopted the

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Speaker 1: same story but strip God and the soul out of it,

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Speaker 1: so that they have, Yeah, the universe pops into existence

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Speaker 1: by the Big Bang, not that God creates. It just happens.

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Speaker 1: And then which I still don't understand by the way

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Speaker 1: the Big Bang, I just will never get. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a whole different question forbidding. That's two shows all by itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that that that could be of show all by itself.

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Speaker 1: So basically they and then you know, first the plants come,

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Speaker 1: then the animals, then the human beings, and they're in

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Speaker 1: a fallen state and they're going to be saved by science,

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Speaker 1: and then it's going to be all over the heat

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Speaker 1: death of the universe, And it's basically the same story.

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Speaker 1: But in other cultures there's the idea of cyclical time,

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Speaker 1: that things happen again and again and again. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's like you know, and Plato's work The Timaeus is

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Speaker 1: one of the dialogues of Plato. He talks about the

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Speaker 1: Greek politician Sol who went to Egypt and was talking

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Speaker 1: to the Egyptian priest about the history of Greece, and

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Speaker 1: he was explaining how, yeah, in the beginning there was

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Speaker 1: got part of your history here in Egypt. We have

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Speaker 1: records of your history going back far before you've you're

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