WEBVTT - Navigating Grief And Finances (Ep 380)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, we're back, We're black, we're brow this should.

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<v Speaker 2>This is and this is ambition.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey manja, hey beautiful, how are you stunning? And that

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<v Speaker 3>lightning and the and the glow. I can't let me

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<v Speaker 3>tell you something.

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<v Speaker 4>So I already have a brown boost, so you know

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<v Speaker 4>we're not gonna okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But you have boosted your lashes like twice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I wouldn't say that these lasses. I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>born like just brows and lasses.

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<v Speaker 4>And what I love about it is that like, well

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<v Speaker 4>one like you know, this is place that I found

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<v Speaker 4>that like it's like for a hundred bucks for the month,

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<v Speaker 4>you can get like your.

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<v Speaker 2>Lashes done twice, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was just let me try it, and so

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<v Speaker 4>you know it makes me feel like a little we

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<v Speaker 4>know me. I'm trying to get my girly on after

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<v Speaker 4>after years of being.

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<v Speaker 2>Mail and I'm not just saying, I mean like I've

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<v Speaker 2>been such a tomboy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so like I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you know, at age forty four, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 3>You need it a lot, but you just you look

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<v Speaker 3>like you with like a little shine, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about what are you up to? Where are you

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<v Speaker 3>at you're not in your usual office.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not I am in A, I am d

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<v Speaker 2>in DC.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in Atlanta last week because I took the

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<v Speaker 4>team on the team or annual team retreat right, which was.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, soul walks.

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<v Speaker 4>My favorite day was we did a We did some

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<v Speaker 4>community service as some place called the Gateway Center where

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<v Speaker 4>we it's like a transitional housing place but also resources

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<v Speaker 4>for people who are currently unhoused. And it's that that

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<v Speaker 4>place is specifically for men, and so we got to

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<v Speaker 4>learn more about like the work they do because Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, because we I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Did we chat about it on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Mid Yeah, did you already have that plan before you

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<v Speaker 3>went to the A or did you plan it because

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<v Speaker 3>of like what you were saying?

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, we had a like before like so we

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<v Speaker 4>worked with this mother daughter black. I have to find

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<v Speaker 4>the name of their team. I'm gonna FINDCAU. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to shot them out of their team that like

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<v Speaker 4>planned our trip. This is their second year planning our

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<v Speaker 4>trip for us, and community service is something that we

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to add in UH this year.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's PTE.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know child oh Prime Time Events planning

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<v Speaker 4>and concierge. It's this amazing black mother and daughter who

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<v Speaker 4>do like events or what. They're out of Chicago, but

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<v Speaker 4>they will fly over anywhere. So they did New Orleans

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<v Speaker 4>for us amazing, and they just did Atlanta for myself

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<v Speaker 4>and the team. And so yeah, we we had this

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<v Speaker 4>community service project and we bought lunch for about one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred men that were you know, staying there, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was just so great to just talk and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you learn so much about like, you know, some people

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<v Speaker 4>who are in house are really like the working poor.

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<v Speaker 4>Like there was a guy there dressed in this nice suit.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a limo driver, but it just didn't pay

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<v Speaker 4>enough for him to be able to, you know, to

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<v Speaker 4>have a safe place to live. So while he was here,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they're looking to for him to find him

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<v Speaker 4>more permanent housing. But he was there in the meantime.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was just an amazing experience. And we had

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<v Speaker 4>so much pizza leftover that we were able to like

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<v Speaker 4>kind of leave the center and also like serve some

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<v Speaker 4>people who were just kind of like in front. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it was just like the it you know, I did.

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<v Speaker 4>We did our normal We always do a SPA day

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<v Speaker 4>we always do.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we did, we made.

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<v Speaker 4>This called thing called is it called Skintology Skintimacy black

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<v Speaker 4>owned women brand where we made our own lotions and

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<v Speaker 4>things we always try to support, like black owned our

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<v Speaker 4>chef chef Todd Black Chef. It was a blackly black

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<v Speaker 4>black like a week so which is awesome. But I'm

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<v Speaker 4>also glad that we were also able to like serve

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<v Speaker 4>and give back. And so yeah, I was there and

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<v Speaker 4>then amazing and now I'm in DC, like because you

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<v Speaker 4>know it's book tour time. Honey, wait till you know

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<v Speaker 4>a Maid Whole comes out soon?

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<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, which is the companion to kick with money?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Where can the girls find out more about this companion book?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they can go to Maid Whole workbook dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>I do you know, me order there, but I would

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<v Speaker 4>wait a little bit because we're getting the pre order.

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<v Speaker 4>There are bonuses that we're gonna be able to give

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<v Speaker 4>people who pre order, so and then like Bible mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 4>they'll be able to go heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean they'll see all the posted all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But when I take you, I'm tired girl, you gonna

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<v Speaker 4>see my my my, my break is gonna be I

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<v Speaker 4>mean Yeah, I'm just really tired. But I'm just glad

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<v Speaker 4>to like, you know, be sett in some place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>what about you?

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<v Speaker 2>What have you been up to?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? You know, fun stuff? Aging myself. Yeah, it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a real shit couple of weeks. I'm not gonna lie

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<v Speaker 3>I was. Yeah, where do I even begin? Well, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to get like two into the personal stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But my dad has been sick, and like, do I

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<v Speaker 3>go to Atlanta right now? On a plane sick? And

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<v Speaker 3>I ended up choosing to not go to Atlanta because

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<v Speaker 3>I have my two kids and the babies that are

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<v Speaker 3>quit on me, and it's just like when it rains,

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<v Speaker 3>it pours ever since that biblical flood that week of

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<v Speaker 3>the flood, you know, and also I guess it flooded

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<v Speaker 3>again while I was gone. But anyway, a lot's been

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<v Speaker 3>going on. My dad has been sick, and in my family,

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<v Speaker 3>my parents are no longer together and my dad did

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<v Speaker 3>not remarry, and you know, he's in his sixties and

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<v Speaker 3>my brother and I are it as far as like

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<v Speaker 3>his close his inner circle, and you know, I'm the

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<v Speaker 3>eldest and my little brother is like five years younger,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're figuring out our dynamic as siblings, like caring

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<v Speaker 3>for our dad who's sick, especially given that I am

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<v Speaker 3>here in New York and he is there in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 3>but obviously has a gajillion thing is going on. If

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<v Speaker 3>you guys heard my interview with Alex, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot going on. And that has been difficult,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to figure out that dynamic. And we've never

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<v Speaker 3>been put in that situation before. And like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my usual support system, my mom, my sister, they can't

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<v Speaker 3>really support me because there's a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not great stuff there. So it's really like, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 3>on your own, kid, you always you always have been.

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<v Speaker 3>So I decided not to go, which I was fine

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<v Speaker 3>with that decision. And then my grandpa passed the day

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<v Speaker 3>that my dad got was sent home from the hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>My grandpa, who was eighty six, Thank you, my dad's dad.

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<v Speaker 3>He died. He was sick for a long time. We

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<v Speaker 3>could do a whole episode on how these chronic illnesses

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<v Speaker 3>are like killing black people. Yeah, I mean, it's we

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the healthcare system. But yeah, I have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot to say after this past few days in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 3>and just learning more about my family history and all

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<v Speaker 3>of that, but shout out to Grandpa Shirley Roy Woodruff

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<v Speaker 3>the og I because of my dad's family dynamic, I

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<v Speaker 3>actually didn't know him very will And then I have

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<v Speaker 3>cousins like my cousin Anna, who you guys have heard about.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, that was her grandpa, you know, the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I, in order to sort of process what was

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<v Speaker 3>going on, of course, I flew home. I took Remy

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<v Speaker 3>with me, my little doll baby, my little emotional support baby.

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<v Speaker 3>He was everyone's emotional support. What I tell you, I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like I brought one of those golden retrievers that

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<v Speaker 3>they bring to, you know, people after they've gone through

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of trauma. I was like, here's the baby

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<v Speaker 3>who needs a hold, who needs a smile. Remy's so social,

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<v Speaker 3>He's so like just so you know, happy, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know he'll smile at anyone. So I know he definitely

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<v Speaker 3>did wonders for my dad's health while he was there.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I took Remy, so it was just me

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<v Speaker 3>and Remy and we went down. But even in the

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<v Speaker 3>days leading up to the funeral, I did it so

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<v Speaker 3>to put my like just there was so much anxious energy.

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<v Speaker 3>I was really like, should I up my med should

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<v Speaker 3>I talk to my therapist? I ended up sending her

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<v Speaker 3>a twenty minute voice note just to like get it

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<v Speaker 3>off my chest what I was saying, what I was feeling,

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<v Speaker 3>because it was so much. I mean, I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of folks around me who seem You're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>you have so much going on. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>you do it, And usually I do it fine. And

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't fine yeah for a minute there. But for me,

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<v Speaker 3>I put I decided I'm going to give myself a

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<v Speaker 3>task with this funeral because I couldn't figure out my

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<v Speaker 3>feelings about everything. So I took on the responsibility of organizing,

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<v Speaker 3>like being my dad's brother who was organizing everything, being

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<v Speaker 3>his deputy, so ordering the food because you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>know how to put on a nice buffet. He went

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<v Speaker 3>to my wedding, got it catered, put on the food.

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<v Speaker 3>Track down. When I tell you, Shirley Roy Woodruff was

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<v Speaker 3>a he was a rolling stone. He actually had a

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<v Speaker 3>career in radio that I never knew. Oh really, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>he had a gospel radio station in Gainesville, Georgia for

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<v Speaker 3>years and years and years. I mean up until like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe fifteen years ago. So in the two thousands, even

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<v Speaker 3>he was doing this radio and I never knew.

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<v Speaker 2>And like, look at me, I know, I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was a musician and a traveling minister, which

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the reasons why his relationship with his

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<v Speaker 3>children was so varied, because a lot of them didn't

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<v Speaker 3>see a lot of him. He won that's that song.

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<v Speaker 3>Papa was a rolling stone. Yeah, Grandpa Roy was a

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<v Speaker 3>rolling stone, genuinely. And when I was I spent a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of time talking. I called up so many of

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<v Speaker 3>my elders, people I hadn't met my whole life, but

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<v Speaker 3>who knew about me through my dad, like woodruffs down

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<v Speaker 3>the line, just trying to get a picture of this man,

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<v Speaker 3>and finally was able to track down some really cool

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<v Speaker 3>pictures of him and got those printed up and made

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<v Speaker 3>for the memorial table, just like you know, put my

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<v Speaker 3>put my energy into something. And because I'm sure as

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<v Speaker 3>hell can't control my dad, let me tell you what,

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<v Speaker 3>even being there in person, Oh, I see where I

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<v Speaker 3>get my stubborn friend. And to any you know, adult

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<v Speaker 3>out there who's having to well not even having to caretake.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't ask me to caretake, but like try, I

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<v Speaker 3>just try, and like Hey, maybe don't you know, eat

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<v Speaker 3>bacon right now in this moment after you've been told

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<v Speaker 3>to lower your sodium intake. He's like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't won you biking that much. It's just in

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<v Speaker 3>the fridge. Don't let this man. He will not waste food.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, you need to have a you know

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<v Speaker 3>how they have garage sales, he needs to have a

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<v Speaker 3>deep freezer sale. Like, get rid of this stuff. None

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<v Speaker 3>of it's good for him. He needs to get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of it. But yeah, it was a lot, but at

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<v Speaker 3>least so in a like a roundabout way. The funeral

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<v Speaker 3>was sounds so fun, not to say it was good

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<v Speaker 3>for my mental state because it gave me like a

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<v Speaker 3>i don't know, like something a stake of, like something

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<v Speaker 3>to tie me to the ground, to stop me from spiraling,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because I really was like a whirling not

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<v Speaker 3>even a whirling dervish, but like just like Tasmanian devil

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<v Speaker 3>over here. I came home and I saw my not

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<v Speaker 3>even I put this like big I write out my

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<v Speaker 3>to dooos when I have so many, and I put

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<v Speaker 3>like this big piece of paper on the fridge and

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<v Speaker 3>it was like, get your shit together list and I

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<v Speaker 3>came back and I was like, wow, the mental state

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<v Speaker 3>of that girl. So anyway, it's been a long it's

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<v Speaker 3>been a yeah, it's been a shitty couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>but the only way out is through. I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 3>at this point, it's like one hour at a time,

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<v Speaker 3>one yeah, day at a time.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know that, like, you know, especially you know,

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<v Speaker 4>as our parents' age, the conversations about like what a

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<v Speaker 4>state planning and stuff looked like looks like and that's

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<v Speaker 4>not easy because you know, I know, like it literally

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<v Speaker 4>took for Gerald to pass away, that my dad to

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<v Speaker 4>finally agree to like update his will that had me

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<v Speaker 4>at age.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten in it. I was like, Daddy, you are in

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<v Speaker 2>your eighties. He's like, oh yeah, one day, one day.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, at this point, like, you know, seventy five

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<v Speaker 4>plus they said the average age of you know, of

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<v Speaker 4>you lived to seventy five, and so that means any

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<v Speaker 4>year after that it's literally a blessing. And so if

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<v Speaker 4>you get to your eighties, it's like a super blessing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, there is no one day, it's now.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I was finally able to get his will,

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<v Speaker 4>his living will, his health care like all of that

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<v Speaker 4>stuff signed, notarized and done.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Were you like, did you have to have

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<v Speaker 2>those hard conversations with your dad while you were there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? I did, well, actually I started the conversation. So

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<v Speaker 3>one of the things since I was here in New

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<v Speaker 3>York when my dad was sick in the hospital, that

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, I can do this is I

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<v Speaker 3>got in touch with Helen, who's my financial planner, and

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<v Speaker 3>she can do She can do estate planning for people

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<v Speaker 3>like my dad whose finances are not super complicated. Isn't

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<v Speaker 3>own any business, you know, all that, everything's pretty straightforward.

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<v Speaker 3>He owns a home, et cetera. So I got in

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<v Speaker 3>touch with Helen, I scheduled a call with her and

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<v Speaker 3>we and she really understood where I was coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>She also is she's from Georgia. She lives in Georgia. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so and her family lives close to where my dad lives.

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<v Speaker 3>So she was like, I can see him in person.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I'm taking care of that. But that looks

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<v Speaker 3>like for us because my dad's never had anything like

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<v Speaker 3>that before. It looks like she sent me. I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's three documents in her email to me my brother

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<v Speaker 3>and my dad. She was like, this is a questionnaire

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<v Speaker 3>to get the conversation started. But I'm not just going

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<v Speaker 3>to show up to your house and start out. It'll

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<v Speaker 3>take hours. You probably you need to work through these questions. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>So she sent us that those questionnaires, and I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>opened the attachments yet. I don't think any of us has.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad does not enjoy talking about it. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>strong willed independent. He's a damn Rowland stew himself, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. Like, I see so much of

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<v Speaker 3>my grandpa's traits in him in every area except as

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<v Speaker 3>a father, because he did not roll away at any

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<v Speaker 3>time from us. He's always committed. But yeah this, we're

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<v Speaker 3>getting that state planning done hopefully soon. And then sig notarized.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah jazz, Okay, yeah, big girl, shit, I know this

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<v Speaker 5>is the part, Like you know, when you're a kid

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<v Speaker 5>and you want to be a grown up, it's just

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<v Speaker 5>because you want to get candy at the park at

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<v Speaker 5>the store.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, that's what grow to be like, Oh, I can't wait,

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<v Speaker 4>I can buy whatever I want from Target this right,

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<v Speaker 4>And then you realize you're like, wait, is this what

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<v Speaker 4>adult thing is like?

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<v Speaker 3>And you buy the things from Target so that you

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<v Speaker 3>can dull the pain of what adult that is like

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<v Speaker 3>and you binge eat you know, a pint of ice

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<v Speaker 3>cream in the car and the grocery store parking lot,

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<v Speaker 3>not that I have any idea what that feels like.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you were at stopping shop last week on

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<v Speaker 3>Thursday night and you saw a car parked over there

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<v Speaker 3>and a girl just like crying into her you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know her. I don't want to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>I see that used to be me and pizza, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I would just get there was like my favorite pizza

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<v Speaker 2>place I would go and I would just like gorge

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<v Speaker 2>in the car and just cry and eat pizza, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then hide the box and stuff later like everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>When I tell you, I've never been happier that our

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<v Speaker 3>nest cam on the driveway like went could put because

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<v Speaker 3>I just was able to get out of the car

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<v Speaker 3>and just like sneak that into the Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Same, I'm like, nobody needs to go that I had

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<v Speaker 2>a full pizza for myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I asked or something. But you know, we cope in

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<v Speaker 3>our own wads. Okay, yeah, yeah, just yeah, adulting big

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<v Speaker 3>time but also feeling it was only a matter of time, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and it's here now and me and it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm learning a lot about our family dynamic. Myself. My

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<v Speaker 3>vibe is very different than my brothers, and there's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I tend to try to keep things light and funny

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<v Speaker 3>and like he does, sometimes not in the mood for

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<v Speaker 3>the shuckinin cha anyway. Anyway, One other thing I will

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<v Speaker 3>say about this time that I've left sort of more

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<v Speaker 3>clear about is, you know, my family is far flung.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I have relatives in Atlanta, I have my

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<v Speaker 3>mom in Missouri, my sister's in Wisconsin, and got really

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<v Speaker 3>good friends in California. And I really got clear with

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<v Speaker 3>and I was talking to my mom and my sister brothers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like the intent, Like we have to be more

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<v Speaker 3>intentional about scheduling visits. Yeah, like not just on a

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<v Speaker 3>whim or not just Christmas, Like that's not enough. And

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<v Speaker 3>usually it's like the finances that stopped a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people from traveling. And I'm like, listen, a few hundred

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<v Speaker 3>dollars for a flight, that's what it costs, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to get from most places to where we are. If

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<v Speaker 3>we just commit to you know, no brunch November, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and save that money. We can make this a thing

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<v Speaker 3>like we can travel more to one another. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm gonna I'm definitely going to be doing more

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<v Speaker 3>of that. Yeah, and Remy's down because he is a

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<v Speaker 3>vessel travel buddy. I think there's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>baby boom at the Atlanta air If you were at

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<v Speaker 3>the Atlanta Airport on October eighth, I would just like

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<v Speaker 3>to stay in advance. Name your child after Remy because

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<v Speaker 3>this baby. Every woman we passed was like baby.

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<v Speaker 4>He is such a I know, I know, I feel like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just crazy how I mean, you know, we grow up,

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<v Speaker 4>but then you start to realize, wow, your financial life

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<v Speaker 4>also grows up with you, you know, and you know

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<v Speaker 4>the thing like I what I don't want is like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't want to leave. I want to

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<v Speaker 4>minimize the complications when I'm not here. You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I might be one hundred and two when I'm pass away,

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<v Speaker 4>but I want that when I'm not here. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>you're never gonna get every single thing, but I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to leave stuff that I could have gotten done

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<v Speaker 4>done just because you know, I know firsthand what it's

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<v Speaker 4>like to have some things undone and then having to

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<v Speaker 4>navigate that, you know, the family having to navigate that,

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes at leads for like you know, hurt feelings

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<v Speaker 4>and anger and bitterness, and you know, no, this is

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<v Speaker 4>not what you're like. You know, but it's like like

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<v Speaker 4>I said, I mean, I know I have not probably

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<v Speaker 4>crossed every tea as much as I know to cross.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you're also so young that like in another

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<v Speaker 3>ten years you mentioned updating your dad's will. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>like a one and done thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have to make the commitment to keep coming

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<v Speaker 3>back to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, because thinking like for example, I got I have

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<v Speaker 4>my trust, but then you know, I recently bought the condo,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm like, oh, that's right, I gotta when I

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<v Speaker 4>get back home. One of my homeworks is I got

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<v Speaker 4>to go to the title company to tell them I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want the title to be Undertivity's name.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be under the trust name. You know, because

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<v Speaker 2>something would have happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Me today, then the way my family would inherit the

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<v Speaker 4>property would lead them open for the for like a

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<v Speaker 4>tax gramifications that was unintentional.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's things like that that's like I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Always thinking, like, you know, if something new comes up,

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<v Speaker 4>Look what if I start another business? What if I

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like you know, I don't know if there's

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<v Speaker 4>just as your life changes, you know, like keeping up

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<v Speaker 4>with those things. It's not really easy, but that is

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<v Speaker 4>definitely one of my homeworks. It's like, Tiffany, like, what

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<v Speaker 4>else do I need to put into this trust?

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<v Speaker 2>Or there's no point to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Tony told me that the number one mistake people make

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<v Speaker 4>when she like Tony is my attorney, that people make

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<v Speaker 4>when estate planning is not signing and fully transferring funds.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>So she's like, because a trust takes months, if not years,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it took over almost a year for like all

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<v Speaker 4>the pieces of my trust to come together.

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<v Speaker 6>Really, yes, because there's so many nuances.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you're like, oh my god, I never thought

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<v Speaker 4>about that, and then it's a lot to think about.

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<v Speaker 4>So finally it was done. It was like done, da

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<v Speaker 4>da da dah. And then it's like, oh, but the

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<v Speaker 4>trust is empty. You have to sign your home over

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<v Speaker 4>to it, your bank accounts, your retirement accounts, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, so, like I literally have a meeting

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<v Speaker 4>with Angelie, my financial advisor, I want to say, like

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<v Speaker 4>later on this month, where she's going to be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>here are the accounts I'm transferring over to your trust.

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<v Speaker 4>And for those of you who are listening, the difference

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<v Speaker 4>between like a will and a trust. A will kind

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<v Speaker 4>of says this is what happens to my stuff about

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<v Speaker 4>from the moment you pass away to about six months later.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like it's instant, like a will is like,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's no real financial protections in the will. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just more so my wishes. This is where I want

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<v Speaker 4>to have my stuff immediately. A trust allows you to

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<v Speaker 4>reach further into the future and say for my assets.

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<v Speaker 2>So for I'll give you an example.

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<v Speaker 4>One of my trusts is that, like my nieces and

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<v Speaker 4>my nephew, I'm leaving assets for them. But right now,

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<v Speaker 4>the oldest roman is eight, so I don't want him

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<v Speaker 4>to inherit whatever that's going to look like for him.

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<v Speaker 4>So instead I want it like I have it that

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<v Speaker 4>like he gets first payment right after high school and

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<v Speaker 4>that's to go to college if he wants to go

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<v Speaker 4>to college or not. If he doesn't want to go

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<v Speaker 4>to college, it gets pushed out to like twenty one.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I have like a twenty one year old payment,

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<v Speaker 4>like a twenty five year ol paomanent, a thirty year

0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:17.040
<v Speaker 4>old payment for all the kids. You know, because I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen like you know, like for example, Alyssa, which makes

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<v Speaker 4>me a little nervous. You know, she's got her the

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<v Speaker 4>policy that her dad left her, but because she's under age,

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<v Speaker 4>the state holds onto it and says, when you turn eighteen,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to turn it over to you. And I'm like, like,

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<v Speaker 4>I know she's already like eh, I'm like so if

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<v Speaker 4>you could have seen me, I'm like popping my back,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know. So thankfully, you know, Alyssa has myself

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<v Speaker 4>and her mom to guide her. So we're meeting with

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<v Speaker 4>Angelie to map by a plan because she just turned

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen October first, to map by a plan to say

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<v Speaker 4>this is what you know ought to happen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>ultimately she can make whatever decisions she wants, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>with us here to be like, you know, here's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna set aside this amount of money so you

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<v Speaker 4>can't get that car, and then this is going to

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<v Speaker 4>go to this and this is gonna go to that.

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<v Speaker 4>And so watching that process of what happens when a

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<v Speaker 4>kid is left money, maybe say eighteen is too young.

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<v Speaker 4>So for me, I was like, let me, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to school, a third of what I've left you,

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<v Speaker 4>including Alyssa, can go to school. If not twenty one,

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<v Speaker 4>you get first payment twenty five and then hopefully by

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<v Speaker 4>thirty you have some real sense. So you see what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, And so I trust you like reach deeper

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<v Speaker 4>into the future. And also too, because I won't own

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<v Speaker 4>the assets anymore. The trust will own the assets, and

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<v Speaker 4>then I have the beneficiaries of the trust, so it's

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<v Speaker 4>almost like we are currently joining jointly owning the assets

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<v Speaker 4>while I'm still alive. Although they're quote unquote mind they

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<v Speaker 4>really belong to the trust. When something happens to me

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<v Speaker 4>when I'm ninety one hundred whatever, They're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>inherit my homes or my assets because they already own

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<v Speaker 4>the now. So there is you get to lower the

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<v Speaker 4>tax burden that inheritance yields.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know that's the loan that the bout.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you know, So that's why they tell you that

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<v Speaker 4>if you have assets of a half a million dollars

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<v Speaker 4>or more, you might want to look into a trust

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<v Speaker 4>which in New Jersey, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>A house, you know, like when New York, New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, because if something many families will inherit. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>just say, like you know, your paup Paul bought a

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<v Speaker 4>house for you know, fifty thousand dollars fifty years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and like that house is now worth six hundred thousand,

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<v Speaker 4>just because that's just the way, you know, and in

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<v Speaker 4>you inherit that because you know, something happens, he passes away,

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<v Speaker 4>then you potentially can be on the hook for what

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<v Speaker 4>taxes inheriting six hundred thousand dollars or seven hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 4>dollars would look like. So what often happens is the

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<v Speaker 4>family has to sell the property just to get the

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<v Speaker 4>tax money, and it defeats the purpose of growing this

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<v Speaker 4>generational wealth. And it's like ugh, you know, and so

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<v Speaker 4>but with the trust, my hope is that i have

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<v Speaker 4>set aside money for taxes. But I've also set aside

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<v Speaker 4>like you don't have to you're not inheriting the homes

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever my assets are because you already kind of

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<v Speaker 4>they're already in the trust and you're already a part

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<v Speaker 4>of the trust now, you know. Plus the trust will

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<v Speaker 4>allow you not to have to go to probate cord,

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<v Speaker 4>which is like basically ringside seats to all your business,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, where everybody can kind of know like all

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<v Speaker 4>that I owned and everything else. And then you have

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<v Speaker 4>you know, predators coming out, you know, trust everything kind

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<v Speaker 4>of say blocked in secrets.

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<v Speaker 2>So these are things as we get older, you know that.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not easy, but you want to start to have

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<v Speaker 4>the conversation now with like yourself, your your partner, your

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<v Speaker 4>parents of what does that look like because death is

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<v Speaker 4>the most common, uncommon thing, you know, Like we know

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<v Speaker 4>people die literally every minute of the day, but it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't feel like they guarantee yes, but it never's like

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<v Speaker 4>not my people, not our people, but one day it

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<v Speaker 4>will be. And so what can we do to minimize

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<v Speaker 4>the financial I guess hard to during that time, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad's family, the mortality is. So it's like with

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<v Speaker 3>us at the dinner table, you know, because there's just

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<v Speaker 3>so much chronic illness and you know and almost those

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just generational trauma and the weight of that

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<v Speaker 3>as well, like just it probably wasn't good for the

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<v Speaker 3>mental health. But I steep myself in a lot. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like I just talked to everybody and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>how we understand, you know, you kind of go through

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<v Speaker 3>life and like, oh, yeah, I don't talk to him,

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't talk to her, but I wonder what what happened,

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<v Speaker 3>And just writing to the funeral with my dad and

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<v Speaker 3>his half brother and they, I tell you, those grown

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<v Speaker 3>assmen bickering like eight year olds. No, you should know

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 3>you should have would you say, oh, so what I said? I,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, trying to get.

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening.

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<v Speaker 3>I was, and the drama with like you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>even though my my, my, my grandpa did have a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>he had everything sort of like settled and figured out,

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<v Speaker 3>and he you know, was well organized. Honestly, in the

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<v Speaker 3>end there was there was still that sibling dynamic, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, we need to make sure why sibling

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<v Speaker 3>relationships are. I think the best thing you can do

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<v Speaker 3>as a parent almost is not just leave your estate,

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<v Speaker 3>but leave your kids in shape, like leave them with

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<v Speaker 3>strong relationship with each other. And that's easier said than done.

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<v Speaker 3>But it made me completely just like, oh, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to figure this out because we got to be we

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<v Speaker 3>got to be on the same page, We got to

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<v Speaker 3>be you know in lockstep my brother and I because

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's nasty. I don't want to, you know, end

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<v Speaker 3>up in a space where my kids are fighting, you know,

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 3>when we should be just all that. It's just messy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's messy. I know, it's so common, like not especially

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 3>the funeral people. When I was calling, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to explain this, but like so

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 3>and so's name is the obituary. It's like, not okay,

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:25.040
<v Speaker 3>but like, you know, the person who said admitted it

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:27.399
<v Speaker 3>to you didn't let her view it. And they're like, say, less,

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<v Speaker 3>we know how to deal.

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<v Speaker 2>We got it. Honestly.

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<v Speaker 4>When I went to the funeral home for for Jirell,

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<v Speaker 4>the lady could not believe one She's like, you're so calm,

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, girl, tama right, but also too,

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 4>she was like, cause I went. I came with you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Jirell's twin and Fatima, and she was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know that I've ever seen such a peaceful you know, weah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, at least at that time, but we were,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but at that time, like and I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>realize just how tumoual tumochual tumochual tumultuous, tumultuous. I did

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<v Speaker 4>not realize how crazy that time normally is because state

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 4>she couldn't believe.

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 3>She was like, is this real?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we had our stuff later, but at that time,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you know, I just think they were just all, like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in shock.

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 2>But yes, it's a it's a really really really.

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<v Speaker 4>Hard time, and people navigate grief differently, and sometimes they

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<v Speaker 4>need a punching bag, and sometimes you know they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to check out, and sometimes you know they're just in consultant.

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<v Speaker 2>Like grief is like such a crazy thing and what

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 2>it brings out of people. So yeah, so I'm just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sorry for your loss, but I'm glad that

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 2>you were able to bring the baby for some joy

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 2>that people got to absorb.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he really carried a lot. And I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to go to Georgia next June because I found out

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<v Speaker 3>there's a family reunion in Carrollton, Georgia, where my people are. Y.

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 3>I love that my dad's people are from Carrollton and

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 3>I have never been. I think I went once when

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 3>I was a little girl. All I recall is seeing

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<v Speaker 3>an outhouse and being like a board, get me out

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 3>of there. I don't want to live in this time.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so I'm like, we're bringing the family and

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 3>distant distant relatives are organizing it and I can't wait.

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm excited.

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I love that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all right, not to be Debbie down ears back.

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<v Speaker 2>You know this is important conversation studies we had. You

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 2>want to take a break?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Please? All right guys, right after break?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, and now we are back and now it's time

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<v Speaker 6>to boost up, bring up, boost up, break up, boost up.

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<v Speaker 2>Break up, boost. Oh you're gonna boost? Are you gonnaupbreak?

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 2>What you're gonna do? What you long take?

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<v Speaker 4>So it's booster breaking if you haven't been here, if

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 4>you're new, we do something called brown boots brown break,

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 4>where if we're gonna boost, we say something really great

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 4>that we want more of, give.

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Me, gimme, gimme and break and we're like, uh, we're

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 2>good on that. Yeah, let's just so, do you want

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 2>to go first? Second? How you how you feel it?

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm good with going first. I feel like, okay, ask

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 3>me means I have to No, No.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good either way because I'm breaking. You know, I

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>hardly have a break. Oh, but I'm breaking on today.

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh, Okay, I'll let you finish on because it sounds

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 3>like you got something. Yeah, I see the glints in

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 3>your eye and like it was gonna be a good one.

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 3>I want to do a boost because I have I

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 3>think I'm the last person on earth to read this

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 3>book called Attached. I don't want to have you heard

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 3>of Attached? No, okay, so I'm the second to last

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 3>person on earth. But shout out to Morgan Debon, who's

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 3>a frequent Brand Ambition guest and the CEO of Blabberty

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Blaberty Blavity, because I was listening to her podcast and

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 3>she mentioned it in one of her shows. She started

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 3>to comment on someone's house. Someone was talking about a relationship,

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 3>and she was like, oh, your anxious attachment, you know,

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 3>And then she recommended this book. And it came at

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 3>such a perfect time, the mention of the book, because

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 3>I started to I started to read up on the

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 3>concept of it, which is about four different styles of attachment.

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 3>And you're a preschool teacher, so you probably remember like

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 3>this is often how you like talk about children and

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 3>their attachment to their their parents. And because of your upbringing,

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 3>like you have a certain kind of attachment and this

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 3>neuroscientist and psychologist. He combined. He took this the same

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 3>the same principles and applied it to all relationships. So

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 3>your attachment style in romantic relationships, as a boss, as

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 3>a friend, and kind it's just like and it's why

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of cracked open my my how I how

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 3>I like what I understand about myself and beyond all

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 3>the therapy I've taken, it's just like really like an

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 3>aha moment, is how I am an anxious attachment person.

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what are the four what are the four attachment styles?

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<v Speaker 3>The four attachment styles? I didn't I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>go deep into it because obviously I'm not this person,

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 3>and I think y'all should read the book for yourselves.

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 3>But there's four there's and they're not I want to say,

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 3>it's been in advance. There's no bad attachment style. This

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 3>is like the Actually, if you want a quick little

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 3>primer on it, listen to the NPR podcast Life Kit,

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 3>because the author was interviewed. It's like a twenty minute

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 3>show and he kind of lays it out. Anyway, anxious attachment, Okay,

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 3>avoidant attachment, anxious avoidant, and the fourth one is secure.

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 3>It may sound like the secure ones and one you

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>want to be, but they're they're not like it's not

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 3>like a wrong way, it's it's just the way you

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 3>are because of your childhood and on other things. And

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 3>the great thing about the book is that when you

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 3>understand your attachment style, you can help your partner, your friends,

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 3>your family understand your attachment style and they can understand

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 3>how to support you and treat you as an individual

0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 3>because of your unique attachment style. So I'll give you

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 3>an example as an ancient and ancient as an anxious

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<v Speaker 3>attachment person, Tiff, I thought about you with this too,

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 3>because you may not know this. Sometimes I after you

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 3>and I talk, I feel like I've done a couple

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 3>of times.

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I'll like the day.

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 3>The day will go by and I'll be like, wait

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 3>a second, was she offended that I said that she

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 3>she gonna be mad at me? And I'll call real

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 3>quick and just be like, I just want to be

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 3>sure that you weren't upset when I said da da

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 3>da da, And you're like, what, No, But I have

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.479
<v Speaker 3>an anxious attachment style where I need a lot of

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 3>like reassurance from the people that I am in relationships with.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm over here, order on. I got seven credits ordered seven.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm surprised because you read a lot of audio books.

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 3>My husband downloaded this morning too, because I was like,

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 3>we really need this because I am married to an

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 3>avoidant and that can be it's quite common for those

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 3>two types of attachments to be attracted to each other.

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 3>As what I gather anyway, I'll get into that, but anyway,

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 3>so my attachment style is that I really need, like, uh,

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 3>the reassurance yes, like hey I got to work, okay, Hey,

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 3>I was just thinking about you. Hey, I love you.

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 3>You know. There's like these memes about being a wife

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 3>who's like, hey, I just like, I don't know, I

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 3>just left a big mess in the kitchen. Do you

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 3>still love me?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.479
<v Speaker 3>And you kind of roll yourize like yeah, but if

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 2>If I was a worm, would you love me?

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Those are the most exactly if I gave five hundred pounds,

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 3>if I ended up a quadriplegic, you know, would you

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>still love me? Or Also this you came home late

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 3>is something the matter isn't mean? You know? Is this

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 3>a sign? Or we got into an argument? Oh are

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 3>we gonna get divorced? Is this is over? Are we

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 3>wrong for each other? Questioning? Questioning, questioning, poking, poking, poking,

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 3>anxious attachment style. I could be.

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I can't wait to readcause I'm like, there's I

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 2>feel like I sometimes can feel like that, but sometimes

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 2>quite the opposite. Because I'm Jiroll was like that, I

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>can understand. I'm like, oh my god, he'd be like,

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 2>when you land, let me know when you when you're

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>in the plane, when you're when you're you know, And

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 2>every time I remember, he'd like, you have a business

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 2>trip in a hotel, like with somebody. I'm like, no,

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 2>But now I'm thinking like, oh, was he an anxious

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 2>attached you know?

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I'm I will say that. My

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 3>favorite feature on the iPhone is you can share your

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 3>location with people. And I'm like, I think I know

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 3>why because I like, I will I know that people

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 3>are where they say they are. I track just a

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 3>few people and most of them know I do no

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 3>but honestly, but just to make sure, oh they're they

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 3>got to work okay, Okay, I feel better now they

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 3>don't need to like, I don't need to text them like,

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 3>oh they're there, They're where they said they were going

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:49.839
<v Speaker 3>to be, Oh, no, they whatever, and I and I

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 3>really want to and I want to urge y'all to

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 3>just don't judge what you know, because I think that

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 3>there's don't judge the attachment style, and you have to.

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 3>My approach is going to be understand it and start

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 3>speaking to that start changing your response to that person

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 3>so that you can honor their attachment style. And it's

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 3>already it's already changing the dynamic of my marriage, and

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 3>I imagine my friendships and my family too. But I'm

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 3>very early into it. But yeah, Attached is the book.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 2>I love that, Thank you.

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I love the good books.

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Somebody actually just gave me a book today since we

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 2>talked books like.

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 4>She didn't give it to but I a friend of

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 4>mine was telling me because she's like looking at getting

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 4>like a different job.

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Let me see in my library.

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 4>I just put it into wish lists and it is

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 4>called necessary Endings. You know, as I'm making this transition,

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:44.280
<v Speaker 4>remember we talked about that, and so it says necessary

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 4>endings the employees, businesses and relationships that all of us

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 4>have to give up in order to move forward.

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I was like, ooh, I love that girl.

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Literally like it's everything I've been talking about it.

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh my god, so that's another book

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 4>by doctor hen Cloud. So that's in my whistless tune

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 4>I've been so yeah, I'm like, my my two hour

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 4>walks will be filled with like listening to these two.

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I was looking for like two new books.

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 3>So this is great, perfect, all right, I'm eager to

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 3>hear your breaking.

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:19.879
<v Speaker 4>My break is United Airlines. If you was a girl,

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 4>I'll kick your ass.

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 3>That's like thinking about that is the Jersey Airport that

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:26.280
<v Speaker 3>is I mean.

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 2>So let me tell you.

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 4>I am a premiere one K customer, which is like

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.240
<v Speaker 4>I think the only thing above that is like Global something.

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 2>But it's like, you know, meaning like you fly a lot. Sis.

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm very loyal to.

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 4>United Airlines because quite honestly, their their hub, one of

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 4>their major hubs is Newark, and I live in Newark

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 4>and and so like it's just you know, convenient.

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Plus, you know, if you're gonna when it comes.

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 4>To the airlines, if you fly a lot, it behooves

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 4>you to kind of pick a specific one because they're

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 4>just benefits, like you know, being able to a board early,

0:36:56.480 --> 0:37:00.399
<v Speaker 4>you know, not having to pay for baggage. So they're

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 4>supposed to benefits. I can't tell, but they're supposed to benefits.

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, Premi.

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 4>York one K is like really one of their top

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 4>top because I've you know, I've flown hundreds of thousands

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 4>of miles in United so and I've never really had

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 4>an issue, you know. I mean I've flown other airlines too,

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 4>because sometimes it's just way cheaper, or maybe like a

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 4>brand wants to fly me somewhere and they're flying me

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 4>on whatever. So I know that I'm very well aware

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.919
<v Speaker 4>that delays and cancelations. They happen, you know, I mean,

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 4>it happens. But the last three flights home there have

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.320
<v Speaker 4>been delayed, delayed, delayed, cancelation, and I've never seen anything

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 4>like it. So I'll give you the first time. So

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:38.320
<v Speaker 4>I went to Nashville in June July or July or

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 4>something like that or June for this author conference. Flow

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 4>to Nashville, no problem, you know, it was great. I

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 4>get a text like the day before, oh, your flight

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 4>has been your flight for tomorrow has been canceled. And

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 4>I said, I wasn't even mad because I was, like,

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't in a rush to get home, and I

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 4>was like okay, They're like, we'll fly you out the

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 4>next day.

0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, no problem, you know.

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 4>And then the next day it was like your fly

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 4>that also flight has been canceled.

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 2>We'll fly you out like two days from now. I said,

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 2>you won't because do I live in Nashville? Is it

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 2>crack and smoking? I called them, was like, no, are.

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 3>You crazy to let you get a different airline?

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Girl, a hotel and all that. They didn't. They gave

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 2>me such a like.

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 4>So I called and I'm like, you know, no, you

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 4>have to get me on another flight and they were like, oh,

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 4>this is the best we could do two days out.

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 4>So where will I stay? What will I eat?

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 2>And I'm still fighting for my money back.

0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 4>So I ended up having to I call my friend Cabra,

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.280
<v Speaker 4>who travels way more than me, and he flies with Delta.

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 4>He's a Diamond member, which is like the top top

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 4>top top, you know, and so like he always so

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 4>when he calls, they picked up like hello, mister Cabrel.

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 4>So he got me a ticket. I had to It

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 4>was like seven hundred dollars I had to pay, you know,

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:45.360
<v Speaker 4>because then I did actually have to get home so

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 4>I had to pay at a pocket seven hundred dollars.

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 4>I flew home and I've been fighting and I did

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:50.359
<v Speaker 4>for my money back ever since.

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>So that was strike. Strike took too, was y'all know.

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:58.320
<v Speaker 4>I took baby girl Alissa sixteen for her sixteenth birthday.

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:01.399
<v Speaker 4>She just turned seventeen, but this is and I took

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 4>her in August to London, Paris and near Mafi Coast

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 4>for her sixteenth birthday, you know, because I told her

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 4>no more gifts every year. You just we pick a

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 4>place you want to go and we go in that

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 4>summer the following summer.

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 2>So she picked that and.

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 4>We went, had a great time, you know, and you

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 4>know she's got a little antique. You know, she missed

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 4>her mama. Of course, you know, she's still a kid.

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.320
<v Speaker 4>So imagine my dismay when you wake up that morning,

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:21.879
<v Speaker 4>you know, getting ready to pack, and it's like, oh,

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:23.800
<v Speaker 4>your flight has been canceled.

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I said, wait a minute.

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 4>Minute, not just canceled, but we rebooked you three days

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 4>from now.

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm in Italy. What and we've also booked

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 2>you and Alyssa on two separate flights.

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 4>I said, you know what, No, I called up, and

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 4>I was like, literally, I got the text and I

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 4>called within like because sometimes you know, like there might

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 4>be only two seats left somewhere.

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 2>And I called and at first they were like, oh,

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing we can help you with.

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 4>And but Cabrol taught me to say, can I speak

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 4>to a lead or supervisor? Because a lady on the phone,

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:56.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, she did her best, I guess, and so

0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 4>I got a leader of supervisor on the phone. I said,

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 4>I am currently in Italy. I do not live in Italy,

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 4>and for us one to be leaving three days from now,

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 4>I can't even guarantee the hotel it's gonna have space

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 4>for us, because that's not how that works, yeah, you know.

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 4>And two, I mean, I'm in a really.

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Expensive hotel which I paid for points, you know, so

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, so for me to stay, ain't no more

0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 2>points left.

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember if there wasn't that, but it was

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 4>not inexpensive. It was like, you know, the hotel that

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 4>we chose. I chose a fancy one because we used points.

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 4>It was like seven eight hundred dollars a night something crazy,

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 4>you know.

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 2>But I was like, I don't care. I'm using my

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 2>MX points.

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 4>And so, but I had exhausted them for the trip,

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 4>and so I was really really pissed and so and

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 4>I was like, and you have me on a separate

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 4>flight than my stepdaughter, who is a minor. This is

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 4>her only her second international flight because the first one

0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 4>brought us here, you know, and so you know, so

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 4>I listen looking like I'm flying by myself.

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, we're not. That's crazy.

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.840
<v Speaker 4>So thankfully the supervisor was able to get it. We

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 4>got on a flight the next day, and we were

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 4>able to come home. But I'm still fighting again for

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 4>the for the money back from you know, like cause

0:40:58.280 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 4>I had to spend then extra night in a hotel.

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 4>He had a pocket, you know, and so that was

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 4>not my fault, that's your fault.

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 2>And now this is my third trip in like three months.

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.320
<v Speaker 4>I go to Atlanta because I'm speaking at the A

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 4>three C conference, which is this like tech entertainment and

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 4>financial conference, which is great, and then I stayed because

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:18.439
<v Speaker 4>I had the team trip. Now I had to come

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 4>back home to speak at Culture Con, which is this

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 4>huge like huge, I mean, everybody was it if you

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 4>were black and like well known.

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize how big it.

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Was I've every time the culture con happened, something happens

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not here.

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean every time, and that was not I'm not

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna lie. I was nervous. I said, oh god, so

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:38.800
<v Speaker 2>I booked.

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 4>My flight was booked, but I said, oh god, I

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 4>just got a weird feeling. I was like, you know,

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 4>United the last three times I couldn't get home. So

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 4>I get there first. I get the first text, which

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 4>says your flight has been delayed. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.320
<v Speaker 4>no no no. I get there early. I get to

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 4>the airport, like three hours early, I said. I told

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 4>the gate agent, I said, can you put me like

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 4>on an earlier flight because this flight. She's like, it's

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 4>not gonna be canceled and it's been delayed, but i'll

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.720
<v Speaker 4>put you on standby in the earlier flight. I said, okay,

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 4>stand by didn't work, I said, but she said, you

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 4>sed toll have a seat on this flight.

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:07.319
<v Speaker 2>I said, well, what if it gets canceled. She said,

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 2>it's not be positive and I was like, that's what

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:12.919
<v Speaker 2>she said, I think positively. I said, all right, girls,

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting. I'm waiting. I'm waiting.

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 4>It seems great. Ten minutes to board, We're like, okay, oh,

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm so sorry, guys. Flight has been canceled. The flight,

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 4>the airplane never left Newark. Now here's the thing. Right now,

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 4>it's nine pms. And when a plan has not left

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.359
<v Speaker 4>you knew that, So why would we not tell told

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.240
<v Speaker 4>ahead of time? So now you have hundreds of people

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 4>scrambling to plug in holes other places. So instantly I called,

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 4>of course United, there's nothing we can do. They're calling

0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 4>Delta to see if they can get me on a

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 4>Delta flight. But also I called Cabrel again to you

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 4>to his diamond status to get me on the flight.

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Everything is they've already plugged people into like the few

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 4>seats that were left over in another airline, And I

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 4>was like, I need to I'm doing it. I'm doing

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 4>a I'm speaking on the main stage at Culture Con.

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 4>These people have paid me not only for Culture Con

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 4>but Patreon. I had a breakout session with them. I

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 4>was doing that too, and I was just like, I

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 4>have to get home and I have to be on

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 4>stage by nine thirty am. And so we tried everything.

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Cabrell did give me a flight to Philly. He'said,

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:13.359
<v Speaker 4>I'll pick you up in Philly. This is what best

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 4>he's to be doing. He said, I'll get you a

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:18.240
<v Speaker 4>flight to Philly. Booked it seven hundred and something dollars

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:20.879
<v Speaker 4>and I was like okay, but I because I never

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 4>checked bags, but of course I checked the bag. So

0:43:22.440 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 4>I had to leave, you know, like the gate and

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 4>then check back in, which was a nightmare because I

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 4>have clear I have TSA pre check. But by then

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 4>it was like ten o'clock at night. Nothing was open,

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 4>so the normal general like you know, boarding was a nightmare.

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Then TSA the machine broke and I literally was like

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 2>police pleicly. I literally was like police place, plic plicy.

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 2>If I could just get at the Atlanta Airport, yes,

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 2>which is an huge Yes, Yeah, it's a nightmare that

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:51.319
<v Speaker 2>in Orlando are the two worst airports I've ever been

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 2>on as far as like chaos.

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 4>And I was a police but I still had time.

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 4>I was like a police pit, police plice. I remember

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:58.359
<v Speaker 4>there was a pilot he saw me like welling up.

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 4>He was like, get her bag out of them, so

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 4>they gave me my bag. I run to try to

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 4>make my gate and I see them closing the door

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:07.479
<v Speaker 4>you should have seen me many.

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:09.839
<v Speaker 2>I was like what. I literally am like yelling.

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, and we're closing.

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 4>The door and they're like, how's the police with police

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 4>and he was like, no, we've already given your seato

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 4>win because you know, like because you know, like that's

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.879
<v Speaker 4>what standby is when I tell you the boohoo who

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 4>boo who.

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I felt like, like, you know, like when you see

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 2>like these these like stories about like I don't know

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:31.720
<v Speaker 2>about war and your husband is going off to work.

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I was at the guest.

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.800
<v Speaker 3>I feel I've been there later at night.

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Girl, the way I slid to the ground, but at

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the time, you know, the way they came up to me.

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 4>They were like what's happening? Because I was like, it

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 4>was already so much. And I was like, and then

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:53.800
<v Speaker 4>you're not. It told me they can't get me on

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:55.240
<v Speaker 4>a flight that would land me out of seven thirty.

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:56.879
<v Speaker 4>I was like, okay, I can maybe make that work.

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:00.359
<v Speaker 4>Of course, then they they but they they couldn't seven

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 4>thirty in Philly, Yeah, no, seven thirty like in New

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 4>York the next morning, Okay, but then they couldn't.

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:07.799
<v Speaker 2>And I just was like I just didn't know what

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 2>to do. I was like, I don't know what to do.

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 3>What is going on with them?

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Cabra was like, well, if you could drive to South Carolina,

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 4>there's a flight.

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm not driving because then that's twenty four

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 2>hours no sleep. It doesn't make sense.

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.919
<v Speaker 4>I mean we looked at Washington flights, we looked at

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, flights to like I mean, I.

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Looked at every airline.

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:26.800
<v Speaker 4>This is because by then it was like ten thirty

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 4>at night, so it's like you're you know, it's just

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:29.879
<v Speaker 4>limited and what you can do.

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.320
<v Speaker 2>And I just was like, what is going on with United?

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 2>So finally I called United to be like just book

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 2>me on whatever. I'm just not going to make my thing.

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, well, as soon as we can get

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 2>you home. It's like nine pm tomorrow. I'm like, is

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:42.280
<v Speaker 2>it crack and smoking?

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.280
<v Speaker 4>So then I had to I just booked with Delta

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 4>and got home at twelve thirty in the afternoon, and

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 4>so I had called you know, United, well, so yeah,

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 4>I booked with Delta and they were like that this

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:56.359
<v Speaker 4>is the earlies, we can get you back. So I

0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 4>emailed the culture Con team. I was like, here's what's happening.

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm in the airport for six hours. I did you

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:02.799
<v Speaker 4>know they canceled my flight, they delayed it.

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, I laid it all out.

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:06.240
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I don't I will land in JFK,

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:08.760
<v Speaker 4>not even Newark, my original, but I'll land in JFK

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 4>at twelve thirty.

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know what else to do? Is there?

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't.

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm you know, I'm open to suggestion because I don't

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 4>want to miss speaking, you know.

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 2>And they were like, okay, we could push you to

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 2>four o'clock. I was like, okay, okay, we're waging it.

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Huh oh no, okay. So I land at something I

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 2>told you.

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 3>I very anxious lately, right because this isious. I don't

0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 3>have any of my tools for my exact right now, but.

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 4>I leave something, said my check bags. They were just like, Tiffy,

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 4>don't worry about it. They're gonna be retagged. You're flying

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 4>on delta, right. I said yes, And they were just

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 4>like I said, but are you sure?

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Because I just.

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 2>They're like no, no, no.

0:46:52.400 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 4>And the guy was like, if you do feel really

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 4>anxious about it, you're like, right before you board, there's

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.240
<v Speaker 4>like a delta bag. Like I was first one on line,

0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 4>and it was a nice older lady there, and she

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 4>was like, I don't see it in the system, but.

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 2>It should be retagged. You should be fine.

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I just need the bags because as

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 4>a device. Now I am wearing, you know, like my

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.879
<v Speaker 4>airplane clothes. I literally had some birkenstocks on with socks

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.439
<v Speaker 4>and like you know, like sweatpants and like a T shirt.

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 2>I was like, so I don't really need my bag

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 2>things and she was like, no, no, don't worry. Don't you worries.

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Don't you worry?

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 4>And I said, okay, so I land and of course

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 4>my bags are lost, all my things. I was like,

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 4>but thankfully, the one shining shining little like I guess

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 4>that this was going to be a boost. You know,

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 4>this is a break for United Damn Airlines, is that

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 4>I had the air tag on my bag. So apparently,

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 4>although I didn't make it to Philly, they did send

0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:43.920
<v Speaker 4>my bag to Philly when they weren't supposed to. So

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:45.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, theyre supposed to pull your bag when you're

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 4>out on the plane, you know. So I was showing

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:49.239
<v Speaker 4>the leady. I'm like, my back is in Philly. She's like, no,

0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 4>and the system is saying Atlanta. I was like, well,

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:53.399
<v Speaker 4>I don't know air tag, but I'm pretty sure they're

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 4>not lying to me.

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Go I have to start doing that when I travel.

0:47:58.480 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why all.

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:01.840
<v Speaker 4>So I was like, you know, She's like, okay, well

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:04.359
<v Speaker 4>you could try to call Philadelphia. Like but and then

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 4>and so the second this is what I will say,

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 4>AirTag all your bags. And then the thing that really

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:09.479
<v Speaker 4>saved me was so low tech.

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:12.839
<v Speaker 2>So you know, like the luggage tag that you write

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 2>your name, you know, like hardly anybody does it. I

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 2>when I.

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Bought my luggage from Away, they like gifted me two

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 4>leather luggage shags, you know, because when you spend a

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.319
<v Speaker 4>pallion dollars on stupid luggage, they give me these luggage tags.

0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:26.440
<v Speaker 4>And I'd never used a luggage stag before, but I

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 4>got I was like, you know what, I'm gonna put

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 4>my name my email cause I felt off fancy. I

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 4>had these nice, nice luggage and my phone number. My

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:34.800
<v Speaker 4>luggage tech click click. That is the only thing that

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:36.760
<v Speaker 4>saved my bag because it was just these two random

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:39.240
<v Speaker 4>light light bags sitting in Philadelphia airport.

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 2>The lady looked at the luggage.

0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 4>Tag and saw my name my adjes saw my phone

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.880
<v Speaker 4>number and called was like, Hey, is this Tiffany from

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:46.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, Newark?

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 3>I was like yes.

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:50.239
<v Speaker 4>She was like, we have your luggage here. I was

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 4>like yes, and she was like, I don't see you

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 4>on the manifest. I was like yes because I missed

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 4>the flight. She's like, they weren't supposed to send I'm like,

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 4>I know. She said, we can put it on the

0:48:57.680 --> 0:48:59.719
<v Speaker 4>next flight to Newark and you can pick it up

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 4>for Nork Airport. So the silver lining is is that?

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Like so if like the like I'm literally taping with

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 4>like a borrowed mic from a friend of mine because

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm in DC and I don't have my headphones.

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't have did you make Colchra con girl now?

0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Because I didn't have any cloths? Like that's the thing, like,

0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, I wasn't you know.

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 4>And it was such a huge event and they were

0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:21.759
<v Speaker 4>so nice to say it's so combinating, but you know,

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 4>there was this lesson because I felt like it was

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 4>the end of the world.

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie because I've.

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 4>Never The only other time that I missed the speaking

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 4>engagement is when Durrell passed away, because he always said

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 4>he wasn't feeling well. I was supposed to be on

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 4>the stage for Chase, and I was like, you know,

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 4>but Jerrell was the type to just be like, oh,

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 4>I stuped my to I'm going to a doctor, but

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 4>something was like, no, go to the hospital. And I'm

0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 4>so glad that I did, because that was the last

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:46.400
<v Speaker 4>time I saw him like alive and speaking and you know,

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 4>relatively happy despite his head pain. And so I'm so

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 4>glad that I did. And you know, but that's the

0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.759
<v Speaker 4>only time I've never missed a speaking engagement, so I

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't. I don't know, like it's like I was

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 4>really do almost anything, and I'm almost there's this part

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:05.800
<v Speaker 4>of it was like Tiffany, it's okay, like you're not missing

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 4>it because you're like, I don't feel like it. But

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 4>I really had a hard time letting go of the

0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 4>fact that like this thing beyond my control, you know,

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 4>was not a letting allowing me to move forward. I

0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 4>just I felt so bad as if like I purposefully

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 4>maybe I shouldn't have went on the team trip, like

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 4>what are we saying? You know what I mean, like, yeah,

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:25.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, And I just felt really really bad. And

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 4>but the lesson for me was that like the worst

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 4>case scenario of that situation, cause that's what I was

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:31.760
<v Speaker 4>worried about this happening.

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:34.759
<v Speaker 2>It happened, and look at you. You're okay, you know

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 4>Like that was like so you know, it was like

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:45.400
<v Speaker 4>you missed it, you missed Culture Con. Okay, Okay, like okay.

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Like you know what I mean.

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:46.360
<v Speaker 4>So I was like that was the part that it

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:47.839
<v Speaker 4>was like, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. There's still

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 4>like it's underlying like anxiety and anxiousness about it.

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.759
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, Tiffany, you're okay. I mean you miss

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Culture Con.

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:58.360
<v Speaker 4>You didn't you know, you didn't miss your wedding, you

0:50:58.400 --> 0:50:59.800
<v Speaker 4>didn't miss the birth of your baby, you know what

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean? Like what you missed a conference because you're

0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 4>not at multiple airlines? You know.

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 2>It was raggedy, but you know, and you're okay.

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:09.000
<v Speaker 4>So it was like, I think it's like a lesson

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:11.719
<v Speaker 4>that I needed that I'm still processing, but like, yeah,

0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:14.319
<v Speaker 4>I just but honestly, so I called my admin, Rose,

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 4>and I said, Rose.

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:17.440
<v Speaker 2>What do we like what can we do to avoid this?

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 4>She's like, you know, what if it's imperative that you

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 4>must get somewhere, then we don't fly United because.

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:25.080
<v Speaker 2>This is the third time, because it's crazy.

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 4>It'd be one thing if I was like, oh, United's

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 4>not flying and nobody else is flying. Every other airline

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 4>is getting people to destinations, and I'm paying out of

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 4>pocket to literally arrive at the same destination that you're not.

0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 4>For whatever reason, your raggedy airline is not doing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>And so like now I know, if I have to

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<v Speaker 4>be somewhere, I cannot fly United because it's just not

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 4>worth it, which is so stupid, because what is the

0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 4>point I'm back and a lady, what's the point of

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<v Speaker 4>being one k if I don't get any sort of

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<v Speaker 4>like help rebooking. And I said, I'm still fighting all

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<v Speaker 4>for the last three and you know, like missings, like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, you won't even give me my

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<v Speaker 4>money back from the mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are making.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just yeah, So I don't know, like honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>I might consider like moving over to Delta, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>just the issue with Delta is that like their hub

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<v Speaker 4>is not Newark, and so you know, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>look because I'm like I have to, like I travel

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<v Speaker 4>a lot for business, and for pleasure, and so getting

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<v Speaker 4>to a destination and a timy manner is critical.

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<v Speaker 3>What is it that they don't have enough crew?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I feel like that's often it's like a crew

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<v Speaker 3>shortage or something that is.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, you know, they're never truthful. Sometimes they're like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's weather. I'm like, if it's weather, hack, come so

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<v Speaker 4>no other planes.

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<v Speaker 2>Are because they want to say that, because if they.

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<v Speaker 4>Say it's weather, then you quote unquote you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like that of God, Yeah, no, it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, And like I said, it's one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Things happened. They're giving people time to adjust. You can't

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<v Speaker 4>tell me ten minutes before the flight never left Newark

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 4>because it was supposed to have left Newark. Then two

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<v Speaker 4>hours ago. You could have told me two hours ago

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<v Speaker 4>and I could have adjusted. That's the thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, but I'm gonna do a whole rant and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go on social media and I'm gonna drag

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<v Speaker 4>on for filth because you know, they don't listen to me.

0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:59.280
<v Speaker 4>They don't listen when you like hello, like customer support

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:00.880
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. I'm still make it for my money. I'm like, well,

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 4>then y'all need to be dragged publicly and so this is,

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<v Speaker 4>this is dragging number one United.

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<v Speaker 3>Counter your days and this is and you're not one

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<v Speaker 3>to rant and be like you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you said airline, I was almost like, oh,

0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 3>something really bad must have happened because you're not exactly

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<v Speaker 3>one to like let little stars go. I mean to

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 3>let it like become this big. But that sounds so

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<v Speaker 3>busted and so stressful, and I'm sorry you went through that.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, the the mention about like the coping strategy

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<v Speaker 3>and like the minds that the mind work to get

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 3>through a moment like that, That is maturity. That is girl.

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<v Speaker 4>I took everything. I mean, that's to like I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 4>Like one of my friends I called him. I called him,

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:44.319
<v Speaker 4>he was like just relax. I almost murdered him through

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 4>the phone and he realized. He was like, I feel

0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:47.480
<v Speaker 4>like that's the worst thing I could have said. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm weeping at the airline right now, and I know

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<v Speaker 4>that like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Dating pool, is it about to get drowned in the

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:04.360
<v Speaker 3>dating pool? Say relaxed? Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like my dad, I was like, don't tell

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<v Speaker 2>me to.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, oh, but see, you needed a punching bag.

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 3>So you're like, well, thank you for volunteering.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, but you know, like it all worked out.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm here, I went to DC the next day. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>here and like, you know, making it work. So but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, and I mean now I see, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it was fine, you know, and things typically are for

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<v Speaker 4>the most part, but you know, in the moment sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>it's just hard to process.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, sorry that sounds hell stressful. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>glad that you're you went through it. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>glad that it's over now.

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's over now.

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<v Speaker 3>So and you know, guys, that is cute. I'm just saying, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh, hopefully you guys will listen on Friday to

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<v Speaker 2>our b a q A. If you have questions, we

0:54:56.680 --> 0:55:00.000
<v Speaker 2>have answers, and we'll see you in a few days.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see you soon.

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:03.879
<v Speaker 4>But now if you're fighting United, because we'll never see

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:05.200
<v Speaker 4>you because you'll never get on hold and I'll just

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<v Speaker 4>jok