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Speaker 3: It's just me and you and here Roy. You can't
Speaker 3: ask how everyone's feeling. It's just me.
Speaker 2: Just asks me how I'm feeling. Well. Peter is here too.
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Speaker 3: All right, let me sit my water man. It's not
Speaker 3: really water, but I'm gonna call it.
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Speaker 1: I will just make that clear. That may have nothing
Speaker 1: to do with what you're about to say. I'm just
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Speaker 4: One will will when the family I mean, yes, the
Speaker 4: song one somebody in the family gonna win may not
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Speaker 3: But Ryan will be DJ. Shoutout to our God.
Speaker 2: Ryan.
Speaker 1: He had me today that I hope he feels better.
Speaker 1: He said he was sick, couldn't come in today. I
Speaker 1: kind of felt like maybe he was trying to take
Speaker 1: the tom to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to lock in and get it sick, get a
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Speaker 4: get your serado together. It's all good man.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That or he was so excited that Yeat put out
Speaker 1: an interview. Yeah, he couldn't make it here.
Speaker 3: Probably both, probably both.
Speaker 2: How much heat do you think is of beating the set?
Speaker 2: I hope none, but nah.
Speaker 4: Anybody has some eating it though, But I don't know
Speaker 4: if it's Yeat vibes though?
Speaker 2: Is Yeat that early in today?
Speaker 3: The heat?
Speaker 2: Where where does heat vibe?
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, he Eat is a little uptempos,
Speaker 4: a little you know what I mean. It's teenage mosh,
Speaker 4: little rumbunksious. Did you see the Yeat track list feature
Speaker 4: think they have? Yeah, it's like the weird of the world.
Speaker 4: He has, Sir Elton John on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, listen, got the complexion for the connection.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to shoot on you know how we
Speaker 2: got down that path.
Speaker 1: Shout out to ya Saturday. We will be there also.
Speaker 1: Our brother Jerald Prince Miller just put out an episode
Speaker 1: today with Joey Melino. O G. That is the Old Rage.
Speaker 1: The Old gis great. Great episode. Shout out to Joey Molino.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Snuff Skinny. Joey's cheese steaks.
Speaker 3: Man, Yes, sir, when we gotta go down to Skinny Joey's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, I think they'll be there in two weeks.
Speaker 1: He said for us to come down, all right, because
Speaker 1: I think him in printing doing something.
Speaker 4: I didn't dare ask Joey and and and a little
Speaker 4: snuff to uh make a vegan cheese cheese steak.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought they would.
Speaker 4: What I for great, I just didn't think to to like, Yo, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I ain't got a vegan cheese steak on the media.
Speaker 1: I don't think of a fifty year old Italian man
Speaker 1: from South Philly wouldn't be progressive like.
Speaker 3: I just I just don't think so. I just don't
Speaker 3: think so.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: But we're gonna go down there and check them out,
Speaker 3: suppor the guys anyway.
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, absolutely, But yes I feared today.
Speaker 3: Wow, man, So what what are you scared of? Man?
Speaker 2: You know, when action stop, you don't have to act.
Speaker 4: But yo, I'm so mad y'all didn't let us let
Speaker 4: me let that clip go out. Man? When I was
Speaker 4: a h I mean, you want a little and we
Speaker 4: thought we were protecting you.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe that was what.
Speaker 4: Let me get my ship off sometimes, man, come on, man,
Speaker 4: it's kind of what what was needed for sure, But yes,
Speaker 4: I didn't want to be responsible for any family feuds today,
Speaker 4: so I may I saw it a few times and
Speaker 4: kind of let you rock.
Speaker 1: Jay Z has been doing a lot of announcements, even
Speaker 1: added extra innings because the Blueprint and Reasonable Doubt show
Speaker 1: sold out so quickly. Yes, sir, he did an interview
Speaker 1: with GQ that came out two days ago. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: with our guy Fraser.
Speaker 4: Shout out the Fraser great interview and yeah, slew to him,
Speaker 4: answered in a deska.
Speaker 1: I just think it's great to shout in odeska see
Speaker 1: great young journalists getting the looks that they deserve. I
Speaker 1: was very happy that that Fraser did this interview. Where
Speaker 1: do you want to begin? Should we talk about all
Speaker 1: the positive things?
Speaker 2: Sure? I think most of it was positive. It's always
Speaker 2: good to hear jay Z.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but that's not what anyone focused on.
Speaker 1: What he gave like a lot of gems and in
Speaker 1: wise words that we could all live by. But nobody
Speaker 1: really wanted to hear any of that.
Speaker 2: They wanted to hear what's your opinion on RATB?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know that you know, they want to hear.
Speaker 4: But I understandably, right jabing who he is and having
Speaker 4: gone through uh another one of the biggest battles in
Speaker 4: our culture with him and ours, we would have.
Speaker 2: Killed Fraser if he didn't ask that question. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: had to.
Speaker 3: He had to.
Speaker 2: He had to ask that.
Speaker 1: But I mean, in ironically the response to that is
Speaker 1: kind of what Jay was getting at. He was suggesting
Speaker 1: that maybe where the stakes are now and where rap
Speaker 1: is now, the rap beef may not be healthy for
Speaker 1: the culture the way that it is weaponized, where it's
Speaker 1: you know, trying to ruin people's lives. The stands on
Speaker 1: the internet all come together to try and ruin your family,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe that's not the best way to
Speaker 1: push the culture forward. You can be competitive on a
Speaker 1: record instead of doing a rap beef. There can still
Speaker 1: be the competitive nature, but maybe it shouldn't be in
Speaker 1: regards to how far maybe some of the recent beefs
Speaker 1: have gone. And they fucking smoked him for saying that,
Speaker 1: And I'm not mad at people for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand the pushback that people have on that,
Speaker 4: only only because I think it's necessary. I mean, if
Speaker 4: you talk about you know and especially from holes standpoint.
Speaker 4: I understand Jay is obviously the eldest statesman. Now he's
Speaker 4: in a different space, you know, in his life where
Speaker 4: he maybe views things obviously differently than he did when
Speaker 4: he was so embedded in music and in rap and
Speaker 4: in the competitive nature of it all. But I think
Speaker 4: that that's part of it, man. I think that's you know,
Speaker 4: battling is part of of hip hop, is part of rap.
Speaker 3: It's a competitive thing. Who's the better MC.
Speaker 4: You know, we have the debates all the time, whether
Speaker 4: it's you know, in the barbershops, on the block, you know,
Speaker 4: group chats, whether it's online now, you know, social media, wherever.
Speaker 4: You have these conversations and these debates. Because it's all
Speaker 4: subjective art. You know, people are going to listen to
Speaker 4: things and they're going to pick their favorites and debate
Speaker 4: them and say why I feel like this person is
Speaker 4: better than that person.
Speaker 3: I don't think you could ever remove that.
Speaker 4: I do understand how things now are, you know, discussed,
Speaker 4: is a little differently. It's a little more polarizing because
Speaker 4: so many people have or what can be heard or
Speaker 4: be seen via social media. But I don't think we
Speaker 4: we you know, getting rid of it or it not
Speaker 4: being healthy or you know, progressive for rap.
Speaker 3: I don't agree with that, you you.
Speaker 4: Know, because you always gotta you always got to figure
Speaker 4: out through rap and through and through art you know,
Speaker 4: who's the better artists, who's the better you know, especially
Speaker 4: in rap, Like that's just I don't know what rap
Speaker 4: is without that?
Speaker 1: Well can you can you do that in the way
Speaker 1: that that Jay said. As far as being competitive on
Speaker 1: a record together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I think it's both. I think you can be
Speaker 4: competitive on the record. And I think that you know,
Speaker 4: in times, uh you know, MC's and artists are going
Speaker 4: to have disagreements or have you know, ways they feel
Speaker 4: about each other, and if if they decide to express
Speaker 4: that through the music, you know, I would rather than
Speaker 4: do it through the music than to actually run into
Speaker 4: each other in the streets and it become physical. And
Speaker 4: of course, yeah, so I would. I would rather be that.
Speaker 4: I would rather it be through the music and us
Speaker 4: to you know, display your skill set through through through
Speaker 4: rap than to for it to turn physical.
Speaker 3: And then that's what we don't need, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 4: But I don't want to, you know, And again I
Speaker 4: understand and then Jay spoke to it. You know, he
Speaker 4: sounds like the old guy wagging his finger, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, like and it's like, yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: it's you know, like Jay had to go through it,
Speaker 4: you know, and other artists that thought that they were
Speaker 4: the best or whether they had the best. You go
Speaker 4: through those moments where it's like, nah, I'm better than you,
Speaker 4: I'm the best, and it's like, okay, well, if you
Speaker 4: the best and show me you the bet, I just don't.
Speaker 3: That's something that has always been a part of it.
Speaker 1: Well, you can also come across as not just the
Speaker 1: old man that's wagging his finger or you know, you
Speaker 1: also come across as like the hypocritical pastor to some degree,
Speaker 1: like I'm not saying you can't change and grow, but
Speaker 1: don't wag your finger at us when you were rapping
Speaker 1: about putting condoms on baby seats and skeating in a jeep.
Speaker 1: Well like, and I'm not saying Jay, that was you
Speaker 1: know what twenty years ago. Of course, you grow and
Speaker 1: look at different perspectives. I've had different perspectives of rap
Speaker 1: Beep as of late, not to the degree that Jay has,
Speaker 1: but more so on the side of what it's done
Speaker 1: to fandom. I think that's where I think the stand
Speaker 1: shit is getting a little too toxic and nothing to
Speaker 1: do with music. But I kind of hear him on
Speaker 1: the Kendrick Drake thing to some degree. But eight months
Speaker 1: later we got an extremely healthy rap battle with Joey
Speaker 1: Badass Daylight right like it can still happen. It just
Speaker 1: so happens that that battle was it was the biggest
Speaker 1: battle of all time with two A list artists that
Speaker 1: already had stands, and then new stands came about it
Speaker 1: and they're just fucking weird. But you had a great
Speaker 1: example of another battle that had nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the toxic shit the JYM was talking about.
Speaker 4: Yes, you're right, but also to add to that, Tuto Rory,
Speaker 4: I think the one piece and you know, I've read
Speaker 4: comments and things over the last how many days, and
Speaker 4: you know people are like, oh, I'm kind of hearing
Speaker 4: about this battle and out of that, well, when you
Speaker 4: get you know, the guys that are the biggest guys
Speaker 4: you know from the art form talking about it, then yes,
Speaker 4: us as podcast is we're gonna talk about the battle
Speaker 4: and what those guys are saying.
Speaker 1: But oh no, you don't need to be vag Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got Quintin Miller.
Speaker 2: Sorry, man, We're gonna keep talking about it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Quinton, Yeah, We're gonna keep talking
Speaker 4: about it. Yeah, We're definitely gonna keep talking about it.
Speaker 1: But if j Cole is talking about it on the
Speaker 1: press run, I'm gonna react.
Speaker 2: To what Ja Cole said about and vice versa with hoo. Right.
Speaker 4: But to add to what you were saying too, though, Rory,
Speaker 4: I think that the one thing that I think people
Speaker 4: keep forgetting about this and the thing that I think
Speaker 4: turned it into something else. And you know, my story
Speaker 4: and my stance has remained the same from day one.
Speaker 4: I don't think Jay feels the way he feels about
Speaker 4: this battle. If the word that was used wasn't there, okay, well,
Speaker 4: then I think that changes everything in this battle because
Speaker 4: we didn't feel that way after the Drake and Meek.
Speaker 4: We didn't feel this way after the Drake and Pusher, right,
Speaker 4: we didn't feel we didn't feel these ways like you al,
Speaker 4: it was too toxic. It was too the fan bases
Speaker 4: would get into but no one checked on Nikki after
Speaker 4: the world tour line. You used to understand I'm saying,
Speaker 4: but I think things completely changed and it was a
Speaker 4: different energy introduced because something as disgusting and as egregious
Speaker 4: as Pedophilia was introduced. That energy was because words have meaning,
Speaker 4: they have power behind it. Once you introduce that energy
Speaker 4: into this, it's a completely different thing now because the
Speaker 4: energy changes from everybody. And I think that is that
Speaker 4: is what turned this into something that became more mud slinging,
Speaker 4: more you know of an attack, more of from from
Speaker 4: both sides, from from from the artists, from the fan bases.
Speaker 4: I think the energy completely changed because when we got
Speaker 4: push ups and like that, the like that ver it
Speaker 4: wasn't it didn't feel like that yet, right, It just
Speaker 4: felt like, Okay, these are some of the best going
Speaker 4: at it right.
Speaker 3: That energy it was it. It was a familiar energy.
Speaker 4: It was like okay, this is Drake and Kendrick's time now,
Speaker 4: Like okay, cool.
Speaker 1: But I think after pedophile that changed everything. Well, all right,
Speaker 1: stans Ween, this camera stands. Let me let me teach
Speaker 1: you how to stand. You can be a stand and
Speaker 1: still be objective with who you stand for. I am
Speaker 1: admitted who Avenger He's my favorite rapper. I think Hove
Speaker 1: is an incredible person businessman, But that does not mean
Speaker 1: I have to sit and fucking agree with every last
Speaker 1: thing he said, because that is you are correct, but
Speaker 1: that is extremely hypocritical when you then take that very
Speaker 1: toxic thing that Jay is speaking to and you put
Speaker 1: it on the largest platform ever with the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, like, don't act like you didn't participate.
Speaker 2: Don't act like you don't have to stand on your hands.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: You know, And that was another part of it too,
Speaker 4: because you know, Jay was like, you know, he spoke
Speaker 4: that like, you know, the guy had a big year. Great,
Speaker 4: understand it's correct. But but but now, and this is
Speaker 4: the thing about it, and you know, and I think
Speaker 4: that people for whatever reason, you know, they they because
Speaker 4: it was a battle and you know, it's music that
Speaker 4: they feel like, you know, Drake wasn't supposed to be
Speaker 4: so offended by that. You know, it's just rap, and
Speaker 4: it's like no, no, no, no, no, no no. Because
Speaker 4: the same way Jay sat there and spoke about the
Speaker 4: egregious allegations towards him about sexual assault on a thirteen
Speaker 4: year old, which would make somebody that sexually assaults a
Speaker 4: thirteen year old a pedophile, right, So it's one and
Speaker 4: the same. It's like, those claims are so egregious, But
Speaker 4: just because one is coming from an alleged victim and
Speaker 4: an attorney and one is coming from an artist doesn't
Speaker 4: make it any difference to me. It's like, and like
Speaker 4: Jay said, once you claim, once you say that, once
Speaker 4: you make those claims, you have to be willing to
Speaker 4: stand on that. Yeah, because again we're talking about halfway
Speaker 4: sure about that. You can't. You can't, I think, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: no no. You have to be one million percent sure
Speaker 4: of what you're saying and understand the ramifications in the
Speaker 4: weight behind what you're saying.
Speaker 2: But okay, I hear you.
Speaker 1: What is different between a filed lawsuit and a rap battle?
Speaker 1: Now different too? Oh I'm not telling uh Jay or
Speaker 1: or Drake. I would never tell them how to feel
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, I would be, but you can understand
Speaker 1: how highly upset if somebody said that about me, even
Speaker 1: if there was no lawsuit and someone just say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what Rory be doing on WEE guess I
Speaker 1: would feel like fucking well, Okay, So, but I mean
Speaker 1: I do think what the paydwork thing is is different,
Speaker 1: But I yes, hope contradicted himself a bit in that,
Speaker 1: because where was even a bit more contradictory is let's
Speaker 1: say he is just talking about the standarm and not
Speaker 1: talking about the lyrics, because he did talk with Michael
Speaker 1: Eric Diyson about, Hey, I think you're overthinking this whole thing.
Speaker 2: It was just a rap battle.
Speaker 1: So let's say isn't talking about what's happening in the
Speaker 1: actual lyrics. It is about empowering the stand culture that's
Speaker 1: gonna dox the other side's family and do all this
Speaker 1: other weird shit on the internet and like really fuck
Speaker 1: with people's lives, like you got barbs that will put
Speaker 1: someone's address of their mother's house Like that is very toxic.
Speaker 1: And yes, rat beef has definitely contributed to that heightening
Speaker 1: for sure, but either but those people are crazy anyways,
Speaker 1: they'll do it regardless even if there's a beef. You
Speaker 1: enabled them even more with the Super Bowl. Let's not
Speaker 1: act like the k bots and the ov Hose did
Speaker 1: not go even crazier once Jay gave Kendrick the opportunity
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl to look in a fucking camera
Speaker 1: in a red camera and go, Drake heard you like
Speaker 1: I'm young in a whole stadium to say pedophile. So
Speaker 1: either way, however, Hove looking at it with the toxic
Speaker 1: part that shouldn't be here, you definitely contributed to it.
Speaker 1: You did to amplifying, yes, and adding even more fuel
Speaker 1: to the fire with the toxic shit that he's talking
Speaker 1: about that I do agree with when it comes to
Speaker 1: the internet and stead agree. Yeah, but that made it
Speaker 1: ten times worse. But he also is correct. His job
Speaker 1: is to get the biggest artists. He said, why would
Speaker 1: someone get mad about bad Bunny? He's the number one
Speaker 1: streaming artist. I don't even so why would they even
Speaker 1: to be pushback? Kendrick had a fucking crazy year. Of
Speaker 1: course I'm gonna book them. But no, you kind of
Speaker 1: have to you kind of have to just sit down
Speaker 1: and shut up a little bit if you're doing that,
Speaker 1: Like you could feel that way quietly, but you can't
Speaker 1: say that and then contribute the way that you contributed.
Speaker 4: Well, it's again because he's a businessman and it's his
Speaker 4: role to you know, as you know, being in charge
Speaker 4: of the super Bowl halftime showing entertainment, to put on
Speaker 4: and put forth the best show possible.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, but but like you said.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kendrick, as far as number wise that year twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four amazing, But as coming off of what though
Speaker 4: coming off like you said, that energy that was there,
Speaker 4: those you know, introducing that energy into a battle, which
Speaker 4: turned it into something else, which turned it into a
Speaker 4: more uh it felt like a more personal attack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, sure, and and and and again.
Speaker 4: We've had the conversation numerous times, and my stand has
Speaker 4: always been the same, that to me is the worst
Speaker 4: thing you could ever possibly call somebody. So to amplify that,
Speaker 4: like you're saying, to put that now on the biggest
Speaker 4: stage probably in American sports culture, to put that message
Speaker 4: in that energy, naturally, it amplifies.
Speaker 3: It, and it gives it more more, more energy, more life.
Speaker 1: And I honestly, really I don't have a issue with
Speaker 1: Jay doing that. I'm saying you have to be consistent
Speaker 1: in your argument and your outrage with with both those things.
Speaker 2: You can geel that way. But also like they just
Speaker 2: then understand we're all hypocrits.
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking Jay doesn't have a right to do that,
Speaker 1: and then also be like, yeah, this shit is kind
Speaker 1: of nuts what we're doing right now, Like he's not
Speaker 1: the first one quest Love who we know has contributed
Speaker 1: to this culture mount rushmore versions of how much we
Speaker 1: know quest love to love hip hop.
Speaker 2: He got smoked. I think it was the first week
Speaker 2: of the battle. He tweeted. He was like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: this is I don't know if I like.
Speaker 1: This, this type of rat battle, Like this is just
Speaker 1: getting weird, and and they smoked him like, way, I
Speaker 1: thought you was all about the culture battle, Like you
Speaker 1: can also get older and be like, I just don't
Speaker 1: feel good about that.
Speaker 4: No, it's it's a it's a real thing, like it's
Speaker 4: but again, I don't think the the answer is we
Speaker 4: shouldn't have that be a part of the culture. I
Speaker 4: think every every artist, every generation has their moment, they
Speaker 4: have their time on the stage, they have their their
Speaker 4: time to go through the things that you know that
Speaker 4: the guys went before them went, And I just think
Speaker 4: that was the time for Drake and Kendrick.
Speaker 3: To have that moment.
Speaker 4: Now, looking back, yes, we understand that, you know, things happen,
Speaker 4: things were said. That's you know, especially when you're an
Speaker 4: elder states when you're like, yo, that y'all kind of
Speaker 4: y'all wildn you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I understand that, But like you're saying.
Speaker 4: At the same time, yes, that was wild, and those
Speaker 4: you know, claims are in gregious and discussion. That's the
Speaker 4: worst thing you could ever put on somebody, especially when
Speaker 4: it's not true. But then we didn't reward it with
Speaker 4: a halftime show.
Speaker 3: We rewarded with a Grammy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's like, it's it's so many other things that we
Speaker 4: have to look at around that it's like, yo, yeah,
Speaker 4: I get it and understanding. I think that it went
Speaker 4: too far and things was said that I shouldn't have
Speaker 4: been said, But there was a lot of support behind
Speaker 4: that record and a lot of you know, uh, rewarding
Speaker 4: of that song. There was a lot of it throughout
Speaker 4: the industry. So yes, two things can be true. It
Speaker 4: went to your answer to it, Jimmy, I think it
Speaker 4: went too far. It was nasty, but at the same time,
Speaker 4: people rewarded it. Sure, people applauded it. And at the
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, he's a guy on
Speaker 4: the other end of that. Dad has to sit back
Speaker 4: who has helped and put money in plenty of these
Speaker 4: same people's pockets throughout the years. He has to sit
Speaker 4: back and then watch that happen and watch that unfold,
Speaker 4: and watch people that he felt like he had a
Speaker 4: relationship with and he had, you know, a good rapport
Speaker 4: with support such a disgusting claim and accusation about the
Speaker 4: man that he is. You know, yeah, it's unfortunate, but
Speaker 4: you know, at the same time, people people profited off
Speaker 4: of that. People profited off of that energy and that
Speaker 4: message and that that disgusting you know, accusation and claim.
Speaker 4: Like a lot of people profited off of that, So
Speaker 4: I get it. Yes, I do think it's different.
Speaker 2: These days with with with with you know, shit, we.
Speaker 4: Fan bases, we profited off it, right, I do think
Speaker 4: it's different these days with fan bases and things like that.
Speaker 4: I think it's you know, everybody has a you know,
Speaker 4: I guess a voice.
Speaker 3: They feel like they can voice their opinion.
Speaker 4: Everybody can be seen because everybody can jump on social
Speaker 4: media and chime in.
Speaker 3: So I get the energy just.
Speaker 4: Feels a little more divisive and a little more you know, nasty,
Speaker 4: and it's more of an attack type of vibe behind it.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, you know a lot of
Speaker 4: people still profited off of it and also amplified and
Speaker 4: helped plant that message.
Speaker 3: And that energy on the stage.
Speaker 1: I want to be careful with my words here because
Speaker 1: I do still want to go to those concerts where
Speaker 1: when Jay's saying things that come along with the rap
Speaker 1: beef that are bad outside of what's on record, shit
Speaker 1: that happens off record that comes with it. Jay has
Speaker 1: been accused. I'm not saying this to be a fact.
Speaker 1: It's always just been a rumor and accusations. Three sides
Speaker 1: to every story Jay has been accused of. If you
Speaker 1: beef with him, there's times you get black balled behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. There's moves that some people have said words
Speaker 1: about Jay on recD and we never saw them again,
Speaker 1: not like they died, but like you know, their career
Speaker 1: was over. We've heard a lot of stories, but listen,
Speaker 1: a lot of people tell their version when they don't
Speaker 1: fully understand something. I'm not here to say Jay did that,
Speaker 1: but that was always a running rumor when Jay was
Speaker 1: more active in rap. Because yes, there's the Jay and
Speaker 1: NAS one because it was direct records back and forth.
Speaker 1: But Jay has been in subliminal battles with twenty five rappers,
Speaker 1: probably like at this point that maybe you didn't catch
Speaker 1: if you weren't like a super fan. But you always
Speaker 1: heard that Jay was behind the scenes doing business tactics
Speaker 1: to really get at you. Is that too far because
Speaker 1: that fucks with somebody's livelihood, family, dreams, everything. If I
Speaker 1: say something about you on WAX and we just keep
Speaker 1: it on wax, why are you now making moves behind
Speaker 1: the scene that's affecting my income and my opportunities within
Speaker 1: this business.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying Jay did that. It was always
Speaker 2: a rumor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That's just talk.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe the person that you know got into a
Speaker 4: little back and forth or had a little spat which
Speaker 4: it maybe that person just wasn't talented enough to really,
Speaker 4: you know, to surpass or continue forward in their career.
Speaker 2: Like maybe it was just that. I I guess what
Speaker 2: I'm really saying.
Speaker 1: Is is it UCI Wally or is it one mic?
Speaker 1: Like you can't have it either has to be eve,
Speaker 1: it's going to be toxic, like it's always going to
Speaker 1: come with something negative as well while we're entertained by
Speaker 1: an audio blood sport like it's gonna come it's it's
Speaker 1: it's quote unquote war like you.
Speaker 2: Know, I'm always but with some saying.
Speaker 1: Is that uchi wali and one mic, like you can't
Speaker 1: have as far as what though you can't say, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe we should pull back on some of this because
Speaker 1: it's getting out of hand when I mean the rules
Speaker 1: that have been there. It's a battle type of thing,
Speaker 1: and it's war like you can make moves behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: Shiit. People are even accused.
Speaker 1: Drake's accusing Universal of doing shit behind the scenes because
Speaker 1: of the battle and his negotiations, like you can't have
Speaker 1: one without the other. Yeah, but again, Jay's some things
Speaker 1: wireshit like you want it to be one way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm saying to Hove to quote himself, is it
Speaker 1: chi wally or is it one mic? You can't have
Speaker 1: You can't have it either way, like it either has
Speaker 1: to come with this and he can say pedophile at
Speaker 1: the super Bowl and you're involved with it, or you
Speaker 1: have to say straight up no more rabbis and I
Speaker 1: don't want to be a.
Speaker 3: Part of it. I think you can say both.
Speaker 4: I think because that's a that's a real feeling of
Speaker 4: Jay like out of job. Because again he said I
Speaker 4: don't know if it if it should be a part
Speaker 4: of the I think he knows it will always be
Speaker 4: but he's more so speaking from the stance of at
Speaker 4: what cost, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like, is it is it worth it? Is it?
Speaker 4: Is it something that you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 4: it's just gotten to a point where things may go
Speaker 4: too far, So he can speak to that. I think
Speaker 4: that he knows as an MC and as a rapper,
Speaker 4: I think he knows that that's always.
Speaker 3: Gonna be a part of it.
Speaker 4: Battling is always going to be MC's gonna come along
Speaker 4: and fore like I'm better than this, I'm better than
Speaker 4: this guy, and they're gonna want to display that. I
Speaker 4: think that's something that will always be a part of it.
Speaker 4: But it's not like he can't still feel like damn,
Speaker 4: but I hate that part of it. I wish that
Speaker 4: part of it wasn't you know, necessary, and then we
Speaker 4: didn't have to do that. So I understand him feeling
Speaker 4: a way. My thing is, you know, again, he's a businessman,
Speaker 4: so he has to still conduct business.
Speaker 3: But you can't.
Speaker 4: We can't say, yeah, damn, that's fucked up, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: But here's the biggest stage in our culture. To display
Speaker 4: that message and amplify it like that, to me is like,
Speaker 4: while on one hand, I get it because it's business
Speaker 4: and we got to put the best show and best
Speaker 4: biggest artists, you know, we got to do that. But
Speaker 4: then you have to understand how people are going to
Speaker 4: look at it like, okay, but that's amplifying it. That's
Speaker 4: adding to the fire, that's throwing fuel on this thing
Speaker 4: to make it even bigger and brighter than it already is. Like,
Speaker 4: so yeah, I get both sides of it. He can
Speaker 4: feel like, damn, this is crazy, this is nasty. We
Speaker 4: shouldn't do this. I don't know if we should be
Speaker 4: doing this, but the MC and him knows this is
Speaker 4: something that's going to be forever a part.
Speaker 1: Of the coach Oh Noah for sure, and my favorite styles.
Speaker 1: People like you can't come here and change the rules.
Speaker 1: It's the mud. But everyone's allowed to feel like, nah,
Speaker 1: it's just not for me. So I get that. It
Speaker 1: did appear in a very jay Z esque way. He
Speaker 1: was telling us that he is working on something.
Speaker 2: Very vague.
Speaker 1: He didn't dodge, but he made it so open ended
Speaker 1: that it left you to speculative.
Speaker 2: Like did he mean that?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like if he wasn't, he'd straight up
Speaker 1: be like nah, not really like I'm not really that inspired.
Speaker 1: But even when you know, Fraser asked him about the
Speaker 1: Clips album, obviously they did the distribution with rock Nation,
Speaker 1: so we all assume, like, all right, there's definitely a
Speaker 1: higher chance now that Jay will be on it, and
Speaker 1: he said he almost was, but he thought the next
Speaker 1: thing that he says should come from him and not
Speaker 1: a feature, which kind of made me feel like, like,
Speaker 1: with how much he has to say he's working on
Speaker 1: something now because if he if he wasn't, I think
Speaker 1: he would have gotten the shit he needed off his
Speaker 1: chest with the Clips feature the way he has in
Speaker 1: the past. Kala doing an album, l I got some
Speaker 1: shites get on my chest. But I think he's very
Speaker 1: intentional now because he feels like he wants to speak
Speaker 1: to him. So that's what I took from it, And
Speaker 1: that could just be the fan of me hoping that
Speaker 1: that's the case, but I think he just straight up
Speaker 1: would have.
Speaker 2: Been like, Nah, not working or anything. I'm just here
Speaker 2: to celebrate twenty five years, thirty years.
Speaker 4: Like I think the opposite. I think somebody like Jay
Speaker 4: is always working on something, whether it means he actually
Speaker 4: went in the studio and laid anything down, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think I don't think he's done that.
Speaker 4: He said he had a lot of sketches. He just
Speaker 4: said they all suck. Yeah, yeah, like voice notes, and
Speaker 4: you know you know that because that's just who he
Speaker 4: is at his core. Yeah, he's an MC. So he's
Speaker 4: always going to have an idea and you know, he
Speaker 4: he's always going to have a couple of bars that
Speaker 4: he just kind of you know, comes up with. But
Speaker 4: I don't think that he's know fully in that mode of,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm going in here to create this album
Speaker 4: and I'm going in here to ladies bars, And I
Speaker 4: don't think he's I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's doing that. But again, I for a.
Speaker 4: Fact, he's always in his head. You know, he has
Speaker 4: he has some bars that he has in his head
Speaker 4: that he's you know, kind of like tweaking and and
Speaker 4: and just always kind of going over in his mind.
Speaker 4: But I don't I don't think he's he's actively recording
Speaker 4: and laying and laying versus then.
Speaker 1: No, the way he was talking about uh Blue toven,
Speaker 1: like the way he was saying how good blue is
Speaker 1: that piano should get here any note and just start
Speaker 1: on something Nah, he's definitely heard some keys in the
Speaker 1: living room and and definitely started started rapping up, like
Speaker 1: I'm keeping this, this is gonna be use someone.
Speaker 4: Oh no, always I think the whole Blue produced. Yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I think no ideas. He has ideas. He's a creative.
Speaker 4: He's gonna always have ideas. But forty four keys, he
Speaker 4: didn't lay put him down. I don't think he's He's
Speaker 4: in the studio recording though. I don't think so. I
Speaker 4: doubt that.
Speaker 1: We shall see anything else before we get to the
Speaker 1: cold part.
Speaker 2: That stood out.
Speaker 1: I just thought the way he talked about Blue getting
Speaker 1: on stage, and I thought it was a very self
Speaker 1: aware parenting point of view. He straight up like said
Speaker 1: it was the first thing she had to ever work
Speaker 1: for in her life, Like because obviously, look at her parents,
Speaker 1: she doesn't have to you know, want or need for much.
Speaker 1: She was so gifted with the piano, like she'd have
Speaker 1: to work for it. She just gets on a piano
Speaker 1: and can do it right away. The stage stuff came differently.
Speaker 1: He was more proud of her to actually watch her
Speaker 1: work for something rather than just be the talent that
Speaker 1: she was over here with the piano, And I like
Speaker 1: I could see someone looking at that kind of harsh
Speaker 1: even of how he worded it, But I thought that
Speaker 1: was like a perfect NEPO baby parenting point of view,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to sit here and pretend like
Speaker 1: my child has to work for things, because she doesn't
Speaker 1: at all. So yeah, this is going to be your
Speaker 1: version of having to work for something. Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: need to have that instilled with you. If you're that
Speaker 1: talented as is with music, and you're also a child
Speaker 1: of two billionaires, where are you going to learn any
Speaker 1: type of work? So I thought that was just a
Speaker 1: cool perspective because I mean rarely you hear billionaires talk
Speaker 1: about their kids and like anything that they've had to.
Speaker 4: Do well create super creative parents like J and b
Speaker 4: I obviously, but yeah, I think I thought that was
Speaker 4: dope to kind of, you know, recognize that as a parent,
Speaker 4: like she worked at that, she put the work in
Speaker 4: to get better at that, and you know she had
Speaker 4: to really, because that's not something that you know, I
Speaker 4: don't care who your parents are, they can't just give
Speaker 4: you that ability to go out on stage and perform
Speaker 4: and be great and and you know, learn something like that,
Speaker 4: especially as many different dance pieces that she had to learn, like,
Speaker 4: so that was dope for him to recognize that and
Speaker 4: kind of see that that the Jay dad moment like
Speaker 4: oh shit, like she got it, like she actually I
Speaker 4: actually watched to put this work in to get better
Speaker 4: at this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was also happy to because you know, we
Speaker 1: lost jay Z to to La like almost a decade ago.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad he hasn't gotten too progressive over there
Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills because he was like, yeah, Blue wanted
Speaker 1: to be on every song. I said, if you think
Speaker 1: you're dancing to six inch heels at this show.
Speaker 2: Get the fuck off stage. Yeah, as a that's not
Speaker 2: the song you dance too.
Speaker 3: That's the real dad part, right, Like.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it could be super Hollywood. Now it's progressive.
Speaker 1: She should be able to do it.
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Speaker 1: Frederick did ask him his relationship with Cole, which I
Speaker 1: know everyone wanted to know about based off the alleged
Speaker 1: shot that Cole said of the apparent goat on the falloff.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're in a good place. Jay Z
Speaker 1: gave a very very good pr PC jay Z answer
Speaker 1: if he's very proud of j Cole and everything that
Speaker 1: he's done, but there's shit behind the scenes like audits
Speaker 1: and something, but he still has no negative feelings towards him.
Speaker 1: I don't think we would have really gotten that answer
Speaker 1: if that was the case. I think he probably feels
Speaker 1: away with the audit, which is news to me unless
Speaker 1: you guys had heard that, and I wasn't aware. I
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of like a bombshell that no
Speaker 1: one kind of brought up at all, because we don't
Speaker 1: see them together ever, and I always wondered. I was like,
Speaker 1: I wonder why they're not as close as you think
Speaker 1: they would be. We know, Cole got off the label,
Speaker 1: and I think it's important that every artist learned how
Speaker 1: to audit their label, because god, you'll find insane.
Speaker 2: Things when you do that.
Speaker 1: But Jay, as a business man, yeah, of course you
Speaker 1: gave Cole his first opportunity. It did so much for him,
Speaker 1: which Cole would say as well, But that doesn't make
Speaker 1: you above an audit this business.
Speaker 2: This business.
Speaker 4: But that's why I think what Jay said his answer,
Speaker 4: I think that is you know how he ultimately feels
Speaker 4: because people got to remember it. It's a unique thing
Speaker 4: to be in business with j because he came in
Speaker 4: owning the label he came in, but he was also
Speaker 4: an artist. He had to fight for things, so it's
Speaker 4: it's a unique thing to have somebody that experienced it
Speaker 4: like that, who maximized his talent and became the greatest
Speaker 4: ever at this to be in business with them. They
Speaker 4: understand the position of the artists very well, especially an
Speaker 4: artist that's trying to be independent and and have as
Speaker 4: much control over his business as possible. So I don't
Speaker 4: I don't think Jay takes that like and looks at
Speaker 4: that like, Yo, why you ordered in me? Like what
Speaker 4: you think that I would try to. I think he
Speaker 4: understands it, like like, this is something that you should do,
Speaker 4: like you should. You should audit you know, the company
Speaker 4: you're in business with, like you should audit. You should
Speaker 4: have to look at everything and make sure everything is
Speaker 4: I don't think that's a negative thing. I think that
Speaker 4: became something that people looked at like, oh, what do
Speaker 4: you mean you don't trust us? It's business, it's it's
Speaker 4: it's the music industry that we all know is very
Speaker 4: grimy and very you know, nasty at times. Like So,
Speaker 4: I think that Jay understands any artists from that perspective
Speaker 4: because he is that guy. He was in that in
Speaker 4: that same position at one point. So I don't think
Speaker 4: that he looks at Cole or feels a way about
Speaker 4: being audited it.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think so, Yo.
Speaker 1: If there was a law firm that did pro bono
Speaker 1: audits or like financial investigator the fuck that it's actually called.
Speaker 2: If they did that pro bono for.
Speaker 1: Artists, they would make so much fucking life, like the
Speaker 1: ambulance chaser version of that, because you know a lot
Speaker 1: of artists, even if you think they're rich, they're not,
Speaker 1: and auditing a company like Universal Rock Nation Club, like
Speaker 1: that's us really really really expensive, Like is it worth
Speaker 1: how much I'm going to have to pay with what
Speaker 1: they'll find? Like I may end up losing money in
Speaker 1: this situation. But I do think if there was a
Speaker 1: firm that was just like knows that artists may not
Speaker 1: have the liquid capital to do a complete audit to
Speaker 1: a company like that, we do, I promise you ninety
Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of the time. If you audit
Speaker 1: a major label and you've been on there for four
Speaker 1: to five albums, you're you're finding bread though, like there's
Speaker 1: no way that you're not. I wish there was a
Speaker 1: firm that would do that, because I think they would
Speaker 1: make a shit ton of bread.
Speaker 2: But I'm with you.
Speaker 1: It may be weird coming from us, But does that
Speaker 1: dead the friendship? Because I don't think Jay feels a
Speaker 1: way about it. I think he thinks it's just business.
Speaker 1: But once you make that decision to audit me, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I like it'd be weird if you
Speaker 1: hit me for a verse on the fall Off. Like
Speaker 1: remember I was saying, I think Jay is going to
Speaker 1: be on the fall Off because they've never done a
Speaker 1: proper record since Mister Nice Watch, and I thought that
Speaker 1: was personally a bad record, And I don't think that
Speaker 1: should be the legacy of jay Z and j Cole
Speaker 1: working together when I've seen what a legacy like Drake
Speaker 1: has with jay Z with the songs that he has.
Speaker 1: So I just assume fall Off makes all perfect sense
Speaker 1: in the world started with Jay, even if I'm not
Speaker 1: on his label, going to end with Jay on this
Speaker 1: last album, I thought it made every bit of sense.
Speaker 1: Now I see why we have not gotten a verse
Speaker 1: from Jay for Cole for quite some time.
Speaker 3: You think it's the audit, Yeah, nah, man, I don't
Speaker 3: think so.
Speaker 1: I don't know when this audit started that they take
Speaker 1: some time, But to me, that answers my question.
Speaker 2: In my opinion. Yeah, because I'm not saying they hate
Speaker 2: each other. But once you do.
Speaker 1: Audit, somebody like I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 1: the coolest relationship and you may not hate that person.
Speaker 4: I got what you're saying. We're not going to the studio.
Speaker 4: I do a perfect I get what you're saying that.
Speaker 4: I get what you're saying. You doing what you're supposed
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 1: If I was in your position, I probably audit my
Speaker 1: company too, because that that standard.
Speaker 2: You don't know where certain money went. Shit.
Speaker 1: I don't know where all the money went with my
Speaker 1: own accounting department because we are a conglomerate.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we could owe you money.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't go down to accounting every day when you're
Speaker 1: at that type of level.
Speaker 2: But nah, don't hit me when you're at quad. I'm
Speaker 2: not coming through.
Speaker 3: No, I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I understand it's funny, but I understand like what you're saying.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, but I don't know, man, I just
Speaker 4: don't think just knowing the type of you know person,
Speaker 4: J is I don't. I don't think he feels a
Speaker 4: way about that, Like I understand what you're saying. No,
Speaker 4: we ain't gonna be you know, we ain't about to
Speaker 4: go get a coffee after this either. I just don't
Speaker 4: think that it's that much, you know, that type of
Speaker 4: energy with Jay, Like I'm not fucking with cold. He
Speaker 4: can't ask me for nothing, or I'm never giving him
Speaker 4: a verse. I don't know if that's energy is attached
Speaker 4: to I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well shit, Even from the Cole side, if I
Speaker 1: was ordering someone again, it's it's you're not auditing Jay Z.
Speaker 1: You're auditing a huge, huge record and management company. You're
Speaker 1: not auditling Sean Carter. So I wouldn't feel bad doing
Speaker 1: it if I had a really close relationship with Jay,
Speaker 1: But I would also feel weird reaching out to him
Speaker 1: after I audited him. Okay, Like, even if I'm cold,
Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd be like broll that could
Speaker 1: you could look nuts after we're going back, I'm getting
Speaker 1: updates from my lawyer.
Speaker 2: I'm c seed on certain emails.
Speaker 1: I'm sure if there's been an audit just for sheer appearance,
Speaker 1: they could add their MIC's muted. Jay's face and Ja
Speaker 1: Cole's face have had to beg be on the same
Speaker 1: zoom at one point for legal reasons.
Speaker 2: I feel like maybe be weird if I text them yo,
Speaker 2: I'm working on this.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you, let me ask you.
Speaker 2: This is it.
Speaker 4: Jay and Os had that moment, right, both said some
Speaker 4: some wild things in that battle. Nah says some things
Speaker 4: that as a man, if you say to me about me,
Speaker 4: I probably.
Speaker 3: Won't ever fuck with you again.
Speaker 4: Right, Okay. They went on to work together after that
Speaker 4: whole thing, right, Yeah, but that's going on.
Speaker 3: So is that more?
Speaker 4: Is what Nah said in the battle versus Jay more
Speaker 4: disrespectful than cold auditing the company.
Speaker 1: Apple apples and bowling balls? Because why what one? One
Speaker 1: is a rap battle that that we can get over,
Speaker 1: because yeah, and one is business. They were egregious things.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Wow, that's it's it's different with that as
Speaker 1: opposed to being currently in like litigation with within audit
Speaker 1: right now, Like.
Speaker 2: But I'll give you.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about once this whole order thing is over
Speaker 4: with and yeah maybe, but say one is one is
Speaker 4: one is business and one is is art and skill
Speaker 4: and you know part of a battle, Like I get.
Speaker 2: It, I hear you.
Speaker 1: You are correct, Yes, once everything is done, there's a
Speaker 1: world where like hey it was business, cool got the
Speaker 1: money that you owed?
Speaker 2: Or yeah I found out there was nothing.
Speaker 4: Own, right, yeah, who text is?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: The winner or the loser of that audit? Because if
Speaker 1: I win? And but which is fine? If I win,
Speaker 1: it's because you owe me the fucking money. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: feel a way, right that I won that way? Of
Speaker 1: course you have to give up your money and feel
Speaker 1: a way. But you owed this to me to begin with,
Speaker 1: so you shouldn't feel a way. But who text is who?
Speaker 1: What if Cole loses? And there is Jay was perfect
Speaker 1: with accounting? Yeah, and actually, matter of fact, Cole were
Speaker 1: looking through you actually owe us money?
Speaker 2: Right? Which is that could exist? That can very well
Speaker 2: be this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where it could get weird with it as well.
Speaker 1: Who text is who?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean, but that's again. I just was posing the question,
Speaker 4: don't walk.
Speaker 1: Away with five million dollars of my money and then
Speaker 1: text me, hey, I have this open sixteen.
Speaker 2: For you as well? Or not?
Speaker 1: Let's do it, because then I'm dissing you about the
Speaker 1: audit on the fucking.
Speaker 2: Yeah that would be fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me let me go at you on this
Speaker 4: verse like oh yeah, yeah, that that money that I found,
Speaker 4: Like I think that's dope.
Speaker 3: Why not let's turn it into a moment. Let's have
Speaker 3: a moment.
Speaker 1: Well, you know how much fun Jay would have with
Speaker 1: just the audit scheme. You can't audit my influence, you could,
Speaker 1: like he would just go through everything you can't audit
Speaker 1: that he's done in his life. I think you can't
Speaker 1: audit this opportunity. Yeah, you here because of me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I just don't think that he
Speaker 4: feels any way towards Cole about that. I think he
Speaker 4: understands it from that perspective, because again, he came in
Speaker 4: as an owner, as his you know, owned boss, and
Speaker 4: he understands business from a different perspective than most artists would.
Speaker 2: So we just saw about that with Cameron and j Cole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cam has sent sent out a lawsuit on which
Speaker 1: we now know, which we could speculate was to get
Speaker 1: his attention based off, Hey, you you owe me a swap.
Speaker 1: You said you're doing an interview and now you're doing
Speaker 1: interviews and I never signed papers and you've been wrapping
Speaker 1: on my beats, my voices here.
Speaker 4: Like perfect same thing. Business is business. Doesn't mean that
Speaker 4: we can't be friends, doesn't mean that we can't sit
Speaker 4: down and do business after this.
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean that it's any hard feelings, it's.
Speaker 1: Business, and I understand Cole's perspective on that as well.
Speaker 1: So the full episode is not out yet. We're recording
Speaker 1: this right now Wednesday afternoon. I was under the impression
Speaker 1: of shit was coming out Tuesday night, but that was
Speaker 1: on Revolt TV for real, like on cable. It comes
Speaker 1: out tonight. I think at like eight the full one.
Speaker 1: So we're only going off the two clips that have
Speaker 1: been run around the internet for the last five days,
Speaker 1: where Cole did tell Cam like yo.
Speaker 2: I felt a way it was like yo, you suing me,
Speaker 2: Like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: But I understand your perspective of hey, it feels like
Speaker 1: this guy's giving me the run around even though everyone's busy.
Speaker 1: You said you was gonna do something, You're not gonna
Speaker 1: do it. Okay, wait what would you like me to
Speaker 1: do in this situation? So I appreciate cod for looking
Speaker 1: at things from both sides, because if I was too,
Speaker 1: I would be like.
Speaker 2: Lawyers, like what do we come on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: But I get it, it's business man.
Speaker 2: How do you think the rest of this this interview
Speaker 2: is going? Did we get like.
Speaker 1: The the main juicy clips more or less I mean,
Speaker 1: what what what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: When more juice is left?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 2: Pause?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one that that we did. It's one
Speaker 1: that we did address already in regards to Cole wanting
Speaker 1: to reach out to them, and the last time that
Speaker 1: they spoke and you had mentioned that they had not spoken,
Speaker 1: you know, sense uh dream Goal Fest. I believe it was,
Speaker 1: and we reacted to that, and naturally we got smoked.
Speaker 2: Were we accurate and let her.
Speaker 4: Know about Drake and Cole not speaking? Yeah, Drake and
Speaker 4: Cole spoke once after Dreamville Festa, but not since, not
Speaker 4: like us.
Speaker 2: Gotcha, I have not spoke at all because I don't
Speaker 2: know Drake.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know Drake.
Speaker 4: I don't have my so I have sources though I
Speaker 4: don't know Drake, never met him, don't speak to him.
Speaker 4: So I don't want people saying Drake told me anything. No,
Speaker 4: I don't know Drake. I'm just I have sources. They said,
Speaker 4: you haven't spoken to him since, not like us. I've
Speaker 4: never spoken to Drake in my life, never had a
Speaker 4: conversation with him, don't know him. I just know that
Speaker 4: Drake and j Cole have not spoken since right after
Speaker 4: Dreamville Fest, right before the whole like Dreamville Fest was April,
Speaker 4: so right, you know, two weeks maybe a week before,
Speaker 4: not like us, maybe two weeks before.
Speaker 3: I have not spoken since.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't I don't know what Cole is
Speaker 4: speaking to in these interviews saying, you know, he's reached
Speaker 4: out or he's I don't know what he's speaking to.
Speaker 4: But you know I have very good sources. You have
Speaker 4: a source at boost Mobile that showed the call. I
Speaker 4: have a source that boost Mobile that has unlimited and
Speaker 4: Dad twitches. If j Cole has that, why can't he
Speaker 4: reach out to him? I mean, he doesn't have to
Speaker 4: worry about his phone plan. He said he'd be wanting
Speaker 4: to shoot a text.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know what we wants unlimited text get boost Mobile.
Speaker 4: You can shoot unlimited texts to Drake and Kendred for
Speaker 4: twenty five dollars a month.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I just want to make sure sure that
Speaker 1: was completely clear, because I mean, I don't really care
Speaker 1: about the Internet. I think it was hilarious that they said
Speaker 1: Maul's not spoken to Drake's is not like us, and
Speaker 1: you know whatever, they could all have their fun and.
Speaker 3: Know when I read that, when I was never man.
Speaker 1: But okay, so that just because I wanted to clear
Speaker 1: that up because I know we had said maybe it
Speaker 1: was uh before dream Illfest.
Speaker 2: But again, this is all with it. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: two years ago.
Speaker 4: I think I misspoke to Tomline, but no Drake and
Speaker 4: J Cole, I mean I have not This is cementous stamped.
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck what J Cole is running
Speaker 4: around talking about. I know for a fact he has
Speaker 4: not spoken to Drake since not like us came out
Speaker 4: right after Dreamville Fest. Yes, the conversation happened after that,
Speaker 4: there's been no communication.
Speaker 3: There's been no talk. That was two years ago.
Speaker 4: Y'all take with that information with y'all, will I think
Speaker 4: it's crazy that you haven't spoke to this man in
Speaker 4: two years. There's been no type of communication.
Speaker 3: And yeah, these my sources were just as your man's that.
Speaker 1: I'm not just doing to defenct like all right, I'm
Speaker 1: saying you were off by like five days then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but between people's on you know, they you know,
Speaker 4: you know how this this thing goes. And I don't
Speaker 4: ever want to misspeak and you know, say the wrong that.
Speaker 4: I don't want to pump bad dope. That's not who
Speaker 4: I am. I'm not pumping bad dope. So yes, technically
Speaker 4: j Cole and Drake have spoken after the apology after
Speaker 4: Dreamville Fest, yes, but have not spoken since Not Like Us.
Speaker 4: So that was April seventh. The apology happened May fourth.
Speaker 4: Not Like Us came out in between April seventh and
Speaker 4: May fourth. There was a conversation. One conversation maybe maybe
Speaker 4: one and a half, one of the possible whatever, but post.
Speaker 2: One of us. Sorry, mister Cale, I'll hit you back.
Speaker 3: Post not like this on this side of not like Us.
Speaker 2: No communication.
Speaker 4: So and that was twenty twenty four to ye's their
Speaker 4: bad Yeah old Testament news all right, but yeah it's
Speaker 4: before Cole, after Drake.
Speaker 2: What man? No, I no, that was great before co
Speaker 2: after acronyms. I get them before co after Dreamville Fest.
Speaker 2: You know it goes ac DC.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm fine with Like the internet is funny how
Speaker 1: much they kill like this podcast has no credibility.
Speaker 2: They know absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: The same breath they were saying, Maul doesn't even speak
Speaker 1: to Drake whatsoever, and he's wrong about that, and they
Speaker 1: believe Cole would never lie to Cameron's face. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna go with Cole instead of all the same fucking interview.
Speaker 1: Cole comes out and confirm something y'all have been killing
Speaker 1: Maul and I about for the last two years as well.
Speaker 1: We told you that Kendrick was on the original off twice,
Speaker 1: and we told you that Drake was on the fall
Speaker 1: Off twice, and they smoked us.
Speaker 2: But then get quiet when Cole says it, and it's like,
Speaker 2: all right. I mean sometimes they write.
Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody's a broken clock is right twice a day
Speaker 4: or something like that.
Speaker 1: Or do you think that the information that we get
Speaker 1: or maybe we heard the two fucking Kendrick versus that
Speaker 1: were on the fall Off or verse and a hook.
Speaker 2: I think maybe we heard it. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: would never say.
Speaker 1: Something with such confidence if I didn't fucking hear it
Speaker 1: from the source.
Speaker 4: Listen, I don't know Drake. I just have very good sources,
Speaker 4: It's all I'm saying. Okay, I don't know Drake. I
Speaker 4: have very good sources.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm fishing for content here, fishing for clicks.
Speaker 1: But in that clip when Cole said, yeah, it was crazy,
Speaker 1: he's had the fall off done rendition of it beef happened,
Speaker 1: had to switch everything up, and it's fucked up because
Speaker 1: Kendrick was on there twice, so is Drake.
Speaker 2: And I know who leaked it, Like I know who
Speaker 2: did that.
Speaker 1: I think we were the only podcast that that put
Speaker 1: that information out there. I could be completely fucking wrong.
Speaker 1: Norf could have done it. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Well, Angela Ye could have said it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: All I know is you, I only saw us.
Speaker 3: But do you think he was saying put it out there, meaning.
Speaker 4: Told the public that they had that they were on
Speaker 4: the album, or told anyone that they want to, meaning
Speaker 4: like somebody from and you know his inner circle that
Speaker 4: he knows let that out the bag, like yo, Drake
Speaker 4: and Kendrick are on the album. Like you think he's
Speaker 4: speaking to that or speaking to the fact that we
Speaker 4: said it publicly because he said somebody leaked it, meaning
Speaker 4: like is it somebody leaked it to us or that
Speaker 4: we leaked.
Speaker 1: Into the public. I think, But I think he's saying both.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't really have a leak if it
Speaker 1: doesn't go to the public, and.
Speaker 3: That no, you can have a leak if it doesn't
Speaker 3: go to the public.
Speaker 4: Either, they can leak at a group chat of five people.
Speaker 4: That's not a leaker, That's what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 4: But because we said that, when do we say that
Speaker 4: that was.
Speaker 2: A long time ago?
Speaker 3: Was it a lot? I felt like it was only
Speaker 3: like a couple of months ago, I.
Speaker 4: Think, I said, But no, that like wait, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 4: how the fuck did you land on that number?
Speaker 1: Eighty four days ago? But even then, crazy? We spoke
Speaker 1: about that. We talked about that one around the around
Speaker 1: the actual beat. We've we've been talking about that for
Speaker 1: a while. That's not the only clip that I did
Speaker 1: see that Reddit had had found one of them, but
Speaker 1: we had talked about it in twenty twenty four round
Speaker 1: it be like, oh shit, this is gonna get weird
Speaker 1: because we know that Kendrick is on this ship twice
Speaker 1: as of right now, but we don't know if that
Speaker 1: could happen, and that's something we've been said. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not proud, like I don't want to
Speaker 1: be a proud leaker. I just didn't think it was
Speaker 1: that crazy. You know, then la leaker, I will shout
Speaker 1: out to the well that once was the l a leak.
Speaker 1: I wish you guys least the Fat Boys break up there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: man together, you need that justin you were my guys.
Speaker 1: I didn't like the Cole said elite, like, all right,
Speaker 1: why I was fine saying I know you were fine saying.
Speaker 1: On the other side was because it's not a crazy
Speaker 1: thing to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 4: I wasn't trying to leak something that's not never my energy.
Speaker 4: I I'm not leaking anything. I just I thought it
Speaker 4: was honestly, how did people not think that they weren't And.
Speaker 2: We didn't even say it like with full impunity.
Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, I don't think it was crazy
Speaker 1: to say, hey, you know Ken's Lamar's on the jack
Speaker 1: Oh album. It's happened before they you can talk about
Speaker 1: doing a joint album. I don't think it's crazy that
Speaker 1: he would plick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't That's why when Cole was like, he sounded
Speaker 1: like disappointed, like someone like actually leaked.
Speaker 2: The song almost like that's how it felt it. I
Speaker 2: was just like, right, right, right, I mean cool.
Speaker 1: And on top of that, if you go in the comments,
Speaker 1: everyone thinks we have no credibility on anything, so it's
Speaker 1: not like and it's not like you have to take
Speaker 1: it off now that somebody on a podcast said, Kendrick
Speaker 1: Lamar is on your album, don't put that shit on us.
Speaker 1: You didn't put Kendrick on because you haven't spoken to him, right, don't.
Speaker 2: Don't put me in this. He's spoken to Kendree. Okay, fair,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Care who's Like I said last time, Bradby is really gay.
Speaker 2: This is all gay. But yeah, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think us saying that affected why
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar or Drake would not be on that album
Speaker 1: like damn surprises out now, can't put it out.
Speaker 2: Like no, I don't think it works works that way.
Speaker 1: And on top of that, Cole like maybe you know
Speaker 1: leaked it because there's been people around you that have
Speaker 1: leaked shit. I remember when Rosenberg siphon all Them leaked
Speaker 1: that there was a song that Cole was rapping to
Speaker 1: Nas about how.
Speaker 2: He feels like he let him down.
Speaker 1: And then Cole and Eve went on the internet were
Speaker 1: like that's so stupid. Why would there's no song like that,
Speaker 1: Like that's dumb, And then it's the outra like man,
Speaker 1: people around you say shit, Yeah, it gets to people
Speaker 1: mm hm, which again is gay.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I but then so what I
Speaker 4: just feel like I feel like to me one because
Speaker 4: I did say that if Kendrick was on the fall
Speaker 4: Off that would be crazy, So you know, maybe I
Speaker 4: feel like Cole felt that way as well, Like I
Speaker 4: can't you know, not speak to Drake for two years
Speaker 4: and then have Kendrick on my album, Like I think
Speaker 4: that he probably was like, yeah, that will look absolutely
Speaker 4: insane on my part, which I you know, I was
Speaker 4: very vocal about that that would look more insane than
Speaker 4: it already does. But to have him on that album
Speaker 4: on the fall Off would have been would have been
Speaker 4: fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also on Friday, Cole will be on Mellow Show Shout
Speaker 1: out to Cashouts Carmelo on seven PM in Brooklyn that
Speaker 1: comes out Friday. I'm sorry to recording man. I just
Speaker 1: love saying all my friends get all these amazing interviews.
Speaker 1: Like I truly mean that. When I saw Kaz with
Speaker 1: Cole was like, this is awesome raising with jay Z.
Speaker 4: Not buying, but with Cole, I think yeh, but fuck
Speaker 4: all that, I gotta give you.
Speaker 3: I gotta get you push back.
Speaker 4: Why you not sleeping in front of the shop so
Speaker 4: we can get the cold interviews like what you're doing,
Speaker 4: like why you like you look like you can use
Speaker 4: a trim you look like you like you get to
Speaker 4: use a good line, like why you ain't at the shop?
Speaker 4: Like just just wait for Cold to just pull up
Speaker 4: and just you know what I mean, just tell Cold,
Speaker 4: just come holler at us.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: We we we fuck with Cold. We just want to
Speaker 3: let him know face.
Speaker 2: You know, he gotta cold.
Speaker 3: You gotta come get this smoke.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: You can sit down with the deska and cam and
Speaker 4: all that. That's fire. I think that's fire. But Cole
Speaker 4: got to come get this smoke. He got to come
Speaker 4: answer some cool. I got questions for Cold. I got
Speaker 4: questions that none of these other niggas got. I've got
Speaker 4: questions for Jamaine, light skin, Jamaine, where's minking the rain?
Speaker 4: I got questions with you. I got questions for light
Speaker 4: skin Jamaine. Of course I would love for Ja Cole.
Speaker 2: To come on this. Yeah, but you're not sleep at
Speaker 2: the shop. That would have to be in my well.
Speaker 4: First of all, one, Willias were coming to steal your clippers.
Speaker 4: I'm not we gotta hold his clippers for ransom. Fuck
Speaker 4: that colal ain't getting the cut. Fuck that they can't
Speaker 4: get a line. Bring the microphones to a shot, Yo, Willis,
Speaker 4: We come with Willis's name.
Speaker 2: Willis.
Speaker 4: Were coming to get your clippers, the bevel, whatever you
Speaker 4: got on that foot. Were coming to slam all your
Speaker 4: bebels and take them ships out the shop. We getting
Speaker 4: this coal interview.
Speaker 1: It would have to be like it'd be way better
Speaker 1: if it was his idea to come sit with how
Speaker 1: people perceive are cold haters, which I know for a
Speaker 1: fact I'm not, and I don't think you are, but
Speaker 1: people have perceived that maybe we would be cold haters.
Speaker 1: I love everyone that he's sitting down with. I think
Speaker 1: that's great fire And if you want to do the
Speaker 1: full positive press run, I'm never mad at that either.
Speaker 1: I'm not one of these people that thinks everything with
Speaker 1: journalism has to be negative and gossiply. But that would
Speaker 1: be a cool, a cool balance I think for the
Speaker 1: perception of your press, run to go to people that
Speaker 1: are they not haters. But there's been a history last
Speaker 1: two years of having some comments, so I would like that,
Speaker 1: But I only if like Cole wanted to do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm listen, We sitting here just talking because we
Speaker 4: do a podcast. We just talking shit. I mean, I really,
Speaker 4: I'm not mad if Cole doesn't want to ship us,
Speaker 4: you know, that means it's nothing to me.
Speaker 3: I'm not losing sleep over that.
Speaker 4: But no, I think that it would be it would
Speaker 4: be cool to have a conversation face to face. I've never,
Speaker 4: you know, had a conversation with Cole like, you know,
Speaker 4: in depth like that, just like what's ups in passing
Speaker 4: and shit like that. But I've been vocal about the
Speaker 4: you know, the whole situation the last two years. I've
Speaker 4: said some things that Cold probably deemed a little disrespectful
Speaker 4: and too far. But it's never my intempt to disrespect anybody.
Speaker 4: Definitely not disrespecting somebody. I don't know that's corny. I'm
Speaker 4: too old for that. But yeah, I got I got,
Speaker 4: I got I got things that I would like to
Speaker 4: say to Cole's face, just so he understands that I'm
Speaker 4: not a guy that would just talk shit and and
Speaker 4: and would like I you know, I think that me
Speaker 4: and Cole, I think Cold would actually benefit from having.
Speaker 3: Him make it like me and his phone and in
Speaker 3: his ear.
Speaker 1: But there's also a world where Cole doesn't think about
Speaker 1: or give a single funck about any opinion that's been
Speaker 1: said on this podcast.
Speaker 2: For sure, he's having a great time with his wife
Speaker 2: and kids.
Speaker 1: He's doing just fine and would much rather sit down
Speaker 1: with just fine legendary Carmelo, Anthony Safe, Safe, you.
Speaker 4: White, like, yeah, just come highlight some guys that may
Speaker 4: have some pushback. Yeah, I don't talk to don't talk
Speaker 4: to Mellow about the.
Speaker 2: I think Cam. I think Mellow and Caz don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know pushback, but Cam I think is gonna
Speaker 1: ask some realer questions.
Speaker 4: I would hope so, because Cam is obviously he's a
Speaker 4: rapper too, and he understands that world more than Carmelo
Speaker 4: and Kaz would.
Speaker 2: But longest rollout ever for a podcast episode, milk It.
Speaker 4: Cam was about to go to court for that interview.
Speaker 4: Milk that motherfucker Cam. If I'm you, I roll that
Speaker 4: shit out another week. You treat that like the Paradise episode.
Speaker 4: Kick Cam announced it like on Valentine's Yeah fuck that
Speaker 4: roll that ship out. We're gonna roll list it out.
Speaker 4: This is the longest rollout you had to fall off.
Speaker 4: I got the rollout. Yeah, we're gonna roll list it
Speaker 4: all the way out.
Speaker 1: Do you think they paused it off with because I
Speaker 1: really thought that it was coming out on Revold TV obviously,
Speaker 1: but also on YouTube on Tuesday. Do you think the
Speaker 1: jay z interview had them go, you know what, just
Speaker 1: let them have the day?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 4: Okay, I think it's I think it's enough space for
Speaker 4: both of those to be out at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the j interview wasn't that long too. It was it
Speaker 4: was you know, it was. It was a good interview, Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it was short. Obviously, the cam And and Cole
Speaker 4: uh episode will be longer than Jay's gqu episode.
Speaker 1: There was a clip from seven PM in Brooklyn where
Speaker 1: Cole cleared up uh Lebron walking around with a fall
Speaker 1: off the vinyl, which just fucked up because once Cole
Speaker 1: explained it, I was like, oh, yeah, that's that makes
Speaker 1: all the sense of the world and that's awesome. But
Speaker 1: if we've you know, Bron's track record, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's crazy for someone on the internet to see him
Speaker 1: walking around just with a fall off vinyl and be
Speaker 1: like this is performative, Yeah, this is this is what
Speaker 1: are we doing here? That's that's not part of your fit.
Speaker 1: That definitely feels performative. If you see Bron walking around
Speaker 1: with a Jake Cole Viney, it's like, all right, though,
Speaker 1: because you coulda put that in a bag, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You could have put that in
Speaker 1: something like nobody had to know you had a vinyl
Speaker 1: on your hand, like and he didn't playing that he
Speaker 1: game did I'm not sure okay, because it'd be playing.
Speaker 1: You definitely could have put that in your bag. You're
Speaker 1: not be like, oh, should have I left this on
Speaker 1: the seat and you're just walking.
Speaker 2: Into the right.
Speaker 1: But no, I think that's cool that that that Bron
Speaker 1: met with Coos kids because.
Speaker 4: There he was Lebron fans and he's dope. Man, that's
Speaker 4: dad ship Man, that's dad. That's the dad's you know
Speaker 4: they're doing doing something special for the kids. Man, there's
Speaker 4: nothing wrong with that. But based off Lebron's track record
Speaker 4: in history, that definitely did. They thought that they caught
Speaker 4: Lebron another performance of moment like all right, man, the
Speaker 4: vinyl you walking around with the vinyl A we got you.
Speaker 1: I could see Ron having a vinyl player and all
Speaker 1: his vinyls like in his locker. But then you realize
Speaker 1: all the plastic is still on them, like you're not playing.
Speaker 4: Having a vinyl player in the locker room is crazy.
Speaker 4: It's like, all right, fam, alright, alright, okay, enough is
Speaker 4: fucking enough, bro, Like we get it.
Speaker 2: Nah, some of these new vinyl players are great, into
Speaker 2: the great.
Speaker 3: We don't need all of that. We don't need a
Speaker 3: hit play and we don't need a vinyl player in
Speaker 3: the locker room.
Speaker 2: Cut it out.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry we dragged this this long with more Cole
Speaker 1: Drake and be stuff, But honestly, I don't really know
Speaker 1: what I want us to do when everyone's doing press
Speaker 1: runs and finally speaking about something we've all been curious
Speaker 1: about when it came to their point of view.
Speaker 4: And it's a world where you niggas is just making
Speaker 4: whack music that we don't want.
Speaker 2: To talk about changing the game. Not shut out, yeat, disrespect.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to dispet you.
Speaker 3: No, he's young. We gotta give him a shot. We
Speaker 3: gotta see what he does with his moment.
Speaker 2: And shout out to saye low. You know I loves it.
Speaker 2: You know, Zaye and I have a great relationship.
Speaker 3: Great relationship, the greatest of Greek.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean just quickly, because I'm not here to
Speaker 2: hate on you. Just music's not for me.
Speaker 1: He did say that he is the only one of
Speaker 1: his peers, which I don't know what he considers his peers.
Speaker 1: He said that is pushing music for her, or having
Speaker 1: a new sound, or trying to add something into the field,
Speaker 1: which he very well. Maybe right, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: it's good. You could be the only one trying to
Speaker 1: push the needle. But that doesn't mean I have to
Speaker 1: like it. I like Jesus, but I would never be
Speaker 1: mad at someone that said, yeah, he's pushing the needle,
Speaker 1: but I don't like it.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Like, sometimes that's not as profound as it comes across,
Speaker 1: even though Zaying's going to make it sound like the
Speaker 1: most profound thing he's ever heard in his entire life.
Speaker 1: H Sometimes the needle should just stay.
Speaker 2: Where is that? Because I'm cool? We gotta see man.
Speaker 4: I love all the artists, oh no, for sure, but
Speaker 4: I've never.
Speaker 1: Heard a good album with that many features. But listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not he can pick beats. Yeah, I'd like to
Speaker 1: hear a lot of those artists on a yeat beat.
Speaker 3: I want to like, I'm looking for the next young.
Speaker 4: Artist to like, like I want I want to I
Speaker 4: want to like one of the new younger artists, Like
Speaker 4: I want.
Speaker 1: To define young though, like it's Jid young anymore, it's
Speaker 1: Jid now like in the middle care but like he's
Speaker 1: surpassed being a freshman more or less. Yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 1: he's He's what I'm not even saying by age wise though,
Speaker 1: because him I is such a weird place where it's
Speaker 1: like a bunch of sixteen year olds and then people
Speaker 1: that are thirty five that are finally making it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Gibbs get his stride fifteen years into his career.
Speaker 2: How old is he?
Speaker 3: Eat? Is young though?
Speaker 1: Right, he's in his twenties, I would assume. So yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm talking about to Sound, everything about him is young. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crowd talking.
Speaker 4: About guys like I want to like somebody like that.
Speaker 4: I want to find the artist that I really like,
Speaker 4: like that with like one of the twenty whatever year
Speaker 4: olds that has a different energy, different vibe, different sound
Speaker 4: that I'd.
Speaker 3: Just be like, you know what, I like this, I
Speaker 3: like this kid.
Speaker 1: I like him. I mean there's a lot like again,
Speaker 1: I think all the rappers that were in on the
Speaker 1: radar new generation cipher. I think all of them are
Speaker 1: incredible and do make good music, But are you saying
Speaker 1: on the level of somebody that would be in the territory,
Speaker 1: Like all those guys haven't popped yet. I think a
Speaker 1: few of them are well on their way to it's
Speaker 1: just going to take a few more years because they're
Speaker 1: going about it the lyrical route, which takes longer. But
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I don't have anyone in that space.
Speaker 1: Like when UZI was a freshman, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: not all this is for me, but I fuck with
Speaker 1: what he's doing. I see the creativity and he's doing.
Speaker 1: I fucked with some UZI stuff. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I feel that way about anyone that would be like
Speaker 1: a YAT peer. And maybe that's as far as that vibe, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that is the newer vibe. Like, of course there's
Speaker 1: plenty of great young lyrical rappers. I'm not one of
Speaker 1: those people that doesn't think it's perfectly balanced right now.
Speaker 1: But in that world, I'm with you, I haven't found
Speaker 1: one where like I shouldn't like this, but this is fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the youngest artist, the youngest rapper, I
Speaker 4: might like it's probably Kodak. How is the Kodak now
Speaker 4: thirty five? No, way Kodak is thirty five. No, fuck Kodaks,
Speaker 4: He's still in his twenties. Okay, yeah, thirty five about
Speaker 4: to say hell no, nah, But the way Kodak lives,
Speaker 4: like no, no, he has, he has, he has years, yes,
Speaker 4: years of experience. Kodak is fifty years yeah, dog years
Speaker 4: like yeah, yeah Kodak, Now that's old man, right Yeah.
Speaker 4: But as far as like the twenty something old rappers,
Speaker 4: like Kodak is probably like my favorite that I could
Speaker 4: think of that's probably still in their twenties that I'm like,
Speaker 4: I like this dude, I fuck with him heavy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably Kodak, because even like the realm of like
Speaker 1: when twenty one Savage came out, I love twenty.
Speaker 2: One Savage.
Speaker 1: And his era had some shit that I was like,
Speaker 1: this is too young for me, even though they're my age.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've had twenty one in like
Speaker 1: the last few years, because obviously twenty one is now
Speaker 1: in the middle of his career. But the way I
Speaker 1: love twenty one Savage, I haven't loved a new rapper
Speaker 1: with a different sound that isn't typically like the boombap
Speaker 1: shit I like in a very very long time. Yeah something, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the young boy shit. I'm starting to
Speaker 1: get into a little bit, but I wouldn't consider him young.
Speaker 1: I think he's I think I'm so late obviously young boy.
Speaker 2: He's been selling out fucking arenas.
Speaker 4: He's another one that I like him and hint to
Speaker 4: meet him and Kodak of like the guys that I'm
Speaker 4: like the young twenty something else when I'm like, I
Speaker 4: fuck with this.
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Speaker 2: Do you think, uh, you think Libro slipped up? But
Speaker 2: what do you think?
Speaker 5: Ebro?
Speaker 2: Out of you know you'd un fucked up? Right moment?
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 1: He was, He was on his show. Shout shout out
Speaker 1: to to Ebro, Rosenbergen and Laura, shout out to Pete
Speaker 1: he uh, he was. He was discussing a lot of
Speaker 1: the pushback that that he gets from people in his
Speaker 1: Drake hate and some of his coal critiquing, and he
Speaker 1: basically said, why should I give a fuck how they
Speaker 1: feel they don't pay my bills? And if we're being real,
Speaker 1: the only one out of the big three that has
Speaker 1: supported I show and paid my bills was Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 2: Oh a a he Bro.
Speaker 3: We got him, We got it.
Speaker 2: No, you guys didn't. We got him.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I saw Herody got your ass.
Speaker 2: He said that he.
Speaker 3: Did say pay my bills.
Speaker 1: Hey, let's let let's get the exact And you said
Speaker 1: pay my bills again.
Speaker 5: All right, that what I'm saying is you end up
Speaker 5: being something me too, I'm sure, but even you seem
Speaker 5: more like the captain of it of that you could
Speaker 5: someone could say that is what happened because you've been
Speaker 5: critical about Drake before.
Speaker 6: But what I'm saying, I was critical about Drake before
Speaker 6: to be so if you're doing that, you ain't been
Speaker 6: watching my show.
Speaker 5: Oh so you mean it's different because you're not someone
Speaker 5: who stayed quiet and was like, ooh, I got a reason.
Speaker 5: It's like, no, I've been critical about missteps you've had.
Speaker 5: Here's a giant misstep, and I'm critical again.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I would hope that he would see.
Speaker 5: The difference that like I don't, there are people who
Speaker 5: actually wanted Drake to do better in that and hopefully,
Speaker 5: by the way.
Speaker 6: I like all these guys musically artistically, some I like
Speaker 6: more than others. I'm really loving what Cole's doing right now.
Speaker 6: But I don't give a god damn. Like we respond
Speaker 6: to things on the fly, bro, like it's happening right now.
Speaker 3: You did X y Z, Like what are you supposed
Speaker 3: to do?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And Drake's criticism came to how he was acting
Speaker 2: each time.
Speaker 6: And if we're keeping it a bean, the only person
Speaker 6: that's supported my show and me is Kendrick Lamar. So like,
Speaker 6: if we're talking about how we pay our bills, y'all
Speaker 6: ain't been up here supporting me.
Speaker 2: None of y'all Kendrick has. I don't think anyone was
Speaker 2: talking about that specifically.
Speaker 6: But I'm just saying, like, why would I care how
Speaker 6: they feel about how I feel you I'm commenting on
Speaker 6: what you're doing. Wow, I don't give it right right? Well,
Speaker 6: what's the obligation of I have no obligation.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 5: And people act as if it's like, yeah, but it's
Speaker 5: not critical journalism.
Speaker 3: Then he bro No, no, you know that.
Speaker 4: You know that's not what I'm I have ovo algorithm
Speaker 4: and you guys thought you got him.
Speaker 2: I know what he's trying to say.
Speaker 4: I know Payola. When I hear it, I know Payola.
Speaker 4: You don't know Payola like I know Payolar. That's the problem,
Speaker 4: you know, that's what they know. They accuse you of that.
Speaker 4: They accused me of Payola.
Speaker 1: What I need to see tax returns on you and
Speaker 1: on Ebro because I had to see if TD is
Speaker 1: paying that is paying back.
Speaker 2: They accuse me, Peg, I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna audit
Speaker 2: Maul because I need to see.
Speaker 1: Paol in here because now I found out that there's
Speaker 1: Ketrick Payola with Hebro and Apple.
Speaker 2: I want my OVO check.
Speaker 4: Hold on, yo, Peg, I'm gonna look your eyes. They
Speaker 4: accused me of Payola. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm calling Lloyon tonight.
Speaker 1: Does Mal have some separate account that he's he's funneling
Speaker 1: what's what's the Canadian dollar called whatever?
Speaker 2: Tim Horton Bucky got.
Speaker 1: I know Mal has a separate offshore account with Ovo,
Speaker 1: and I need to see it because now I know
Speaker 1: that Hebro's getting paid.
Speaker 3: Man, they think I'm on Payola. That's coreat no Ebro.
Speaker 2: They didn't catch Ebro the way they think they did.
Speaker 1: What he is saying, I don't have an incentive or
Speaker 1: loyalty to anybody because no one is here to pay
Speaker 1: my bills.
Speaker 2: I only have a responsibility to those people.
Speaker 1: But you are now kind of admitting that if somebody
Speaker 1: did that, you'd have an incentive to be nicer to them, which,
Speaker 1: to Rosenberg point is like, well, that's not journalism. You
Speaker 1: can't now if someone fucks with you and comes up here.
Speaker 1: Now you do not criticize them whatsoever. You have to
Speaker 1: be somewhat objective, and even if you're not a journalist,
Speaker 1: we should still be somewhat objective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we laughing.
Speaker 3: But him saying that Kendrick is the only one that
Speaker 3: has supported.
Speaker 4: Him, that's kind of payola as well. Man, wires may
Speaker 4: not have been sent out. Yeah, it's social paola. It's
Speaker 4: just like, okay, you know what I mean, Like, all right,
Speaker 4: he came up here supported you, So that means that now,
Speaker 4: like that's your man's you rolling you, ain't you know.
Speaker 2: I wish, Oh, I wish.
Speaker 1: I wish the perception of this podcast was not that
Speaker 1: we were on Ovio's payroll or were some Drake Dick riders,
Speaker 1: because sometimes facts are facts, hebro. If Drake didn't exist,
Speaker 1: radio would have died way quicker than it did. Yes,
Speaker 1: Drake had supported you in ways you have no fucking idea.
Speaker 2: Radio caught another ten year running.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Man, talk about it, Bro, talk about it,
Speaker 4: talk about it.
Speaker 1: No, Drake has has not well, he has been up
Speaker 1: high ninety seven. He was up there with Flex and
Speaker 1: Scipe and he's been up there before. Then there was
Speaker 1: a back and forth with hot and you know Drake,
Speaker 1: Drake even dissing Hot on the Madison Square Garden stages,
Speaker 1: which to me is kind of a form of support
Speaker 1: to some degree. But nah, you can't work in radio
Speaker 1: and say Drake's never supported you. It's impossible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that doesn't even make sense. But I understand
Speaker 3: what you.
Speaker 4: And I know this is more like here's the thing though,
Speaker 4: he bro Kendrick gets your God that shit man, that's
Speaker 4: cool too, Like we gotta get to that point where
Speaker 4: niggas understand you. That's my man, like I that's my guy.
Speaker 4: I fuck with him on a different level. We have
Speaker 4: a different relationship. Like I think that that's okay to
Speaker 4: admit as well, Like I understand you can still be
Speaker 4: you know, like Jay is like my big brother.
Speaker 2: That's family. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But if Jay says something that I don't agree with,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna like, nah, I don't agree with that, big bro,
Speaker 4: Like that was to me. But you know, it's not
Speaker 4: a disrespect thing. I would just of course I would
Speaker 4: never dispeb. But it's just like you can agree, you
Speaker 4: can disagree with people that support you and that you
Speaker 4: have a different relationship where you have a closer bond
Speaker 4: and connection with Like that's okay like for people to
Speaker 4: say that, but you can also still be you know, like, yo, nah,
Speaker 4: I don't. I disagree with that move. I disagree with
Speaker 4: what you said there. That's all I mean.
Speaker 1: Let me not be a hypocritic. Jay, if you want
Speaker 1: to come up here, I agree with everything that you say.
Speaker 4: See you can't see Paola we got him, Pege, we
Speaker 4: got him, You got him. It was a rock Nation.
Speaker 4: This this this relationship. I want to see the counting now.
Speaker 4: I want to see that. I've had no life conversations
Speaker 4: with with with the Gold parties every year I've had
Speaker 4: healthy the basements.
Speaker 2: I've never seen you.
Speaker 3: When the Gold Party happens, like what's going.
Speaker 2: What's going on? I saw your brother suited and booted,
Speaker 2: but I didn't see you. I couldn't even but I don't.
Speaker 4: I didn't see you. As what I'm saying, and of
Speaker 4: course that loser Rock Nation ties with you before, Like
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, relationship.
Speaker 1: Listen, sometimes behind the scenes there's audist white white white things. James,
Speaker 1: you got to sell doing now after after the hour,
Speaker 1: oh man, yeah, no, after what we played with the
Speaker 1: Jay Electronica budget.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'll ever be friends with you. I
Speaker 2: didn't even do that. Man, your pee the jail elect
Speaker 2: Rock Nation, Yo.
Speaker 3: Nah, I got to see that now, I got to
Speaker 3: see the papers.
Speaker 4: I gotta see the wait first of all, man, nothing changes, Look, Peege,
Speaker 4: I'm asking for accounting once again.
Speaker 3: I need the account and Rory, I need to see it.
Speaker 2: See. This will never be used in clips on the internet.
Speaker 1: I have always been very forthcoming of my bias with
Speaker 1: jay Z. I've also been critical of jay Z, but
Speaker 1: I'm also biased because he's my favorite and yes, at
Speaker 1: one point we had a working relationship. I've always said that,
Speaker 1: but like today, I disagree with that. After she said
Speaker 1: but it's not my fault that I just agree a
Speaker 1: lot of times with what JAYC does.
Speaker 3: I'll put it.
Speaker 2: It's also not my fault.
Speaker 3: Jay is family.
Speaker 4: I'm never I'm never going to fuck whatever you niggas
Speaker 4: just talking about on the internet. That's my family. And
Speaker 4: it ain't even about biased shit. That's family niggas. So
Speaker 4: fuck y'all. Yeah, I'm letting it be known. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: is what it is.
Speaker 2: Nah. But if we don't get tickets, I'm going to
Speaker 2: rent what rent you going on? Like, I don't know?
Speaker 4: Blueprint extra and it's extra and it sold out. Rory, Look,
Speaker 4: you had another shot to get tickets. Jay put extra
Speaker 4: in in ands out for you, and you still didn't
Speaker 4: get your tickets.
Speaker 1: If I don't, If I don't get tickets, Mom, I'm
Speaker 1: coming here and saying Blueprints already.
Speaker 4: But you you said it before, you see you said
Speaker 4: even before the cots are No.
Speaker 2: If I get tickets, it's the greatest album of all time.
Speaker 3: Okay, But if not.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine overcoming a release on nine to eleven like.
Speaker 3: Never Forget, Never forget, we will never forget?
Speaker 1: Does he bring out Fab just to do his street
Speaker 1: Dreams album just solidarity? Nah, it's a rough day, not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That must have been tough. I mean outside
Speaker 1: of not eleven. I'll make that clear.
Speaker 2: That must have been the other things that happened that
Speaker 2: day that made that day rough. No, I think Fab
Speaker 2: was focused on something else.
Speaker 1: Why do you think that Jam would want to put
Speaker 1: out both those albums together.
Speaker 3: I mean they didn't anticipate what was about to happen.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, Well.
Speaker 3: Listen, if we're not gonna do if you can't do that.
Speaker 2: If I if I start, no, just don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe because when like record labels were doing those types
Speaker 1: of things, I only had like money for one CD,
Speaker 1: whereas like streaming now I can listen to everything if
Speaker 1: it comes out on the same day. I guess I
Speaker 1: can see it from the point of view of like,
Speaker 1: if you're going to CD.
Speaker 2: Store, let's have everything there that we could.
Speaker 1: But for like younger fans, and whether I had the
Speaker 1: money or my mom was gonna buy me a CD,
Speaker 1: we weren't going there for a bunch of CDs. You
Speaker 1: picking Blueprint or fat like you gotta pick it, like
Speaker 1: that's what shit. Even with Volume three and it was
Speaker 1: ex I had to do that, Like my mom was like,
Speaker 1: well pick one. I was like, but I love Party Up.
Speaker 4: I loved getting that type of music back then though,
Speaker 4: going to Vergin megastore, standing and there listening to the
Speaker 4: album with the headphones on while the homies just walking around.
Speaker 4: You're on track six like, nah, this shit hard, I'm
Speaker 4: about to buy this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was such an experience. Your man's already broke
Speaker 2: the plastic shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, man, those the day's peage where those
Speaker 4: the days you.
Speaker 1: Know, we used to take actual exact o knives and
Speaker 1: cut the ship and take just a discout.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that was always to do.
Speaker 3: We don't need to.
Speaker 1: That's why I love CD booklets because a lot of
Speaker 1: the CDs that I have statute of limitations. I guess
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to come in and find
Speaker 1: me no version of shut down. Okay, yeah, we would.
Speaker 1: That's why we didn't have a CD. We would just
Speaker 1: cut the shit and take the disc out. That was
Speaker 1: the easiest way to get music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, and then everyone burns it. Those are
Speaker 2: fun days. Three times. Well, yes, ma, mall.
Speaker 1: Will never critique jay Z and he probably will never
Speaker 1: come up here.
Speaker 2: But they don't know.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get the J interview in front of Yankee
Speaker 4: Stadium with Jerome Jerome av. They're not ready for that.
Speaker 4: They're not ready for that.
Speaker 2: It would be fun just to ride to the train
Speaker 2: back and forth, the whole four up and down. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it'll be fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're getting us J in front of Yankee Stadium
Speaker 1: and Drake in front of the Sea and Tower.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go to the top of the list.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, who else but us can do that?
Speaker 1: Oh we, I mean we definitely. I'm honored for every
Speaker 1: time we've been on the the media list of being
Speaker 1: thirteen and the nine and just listen, man, as the
Speaker 1: days go by, I just see us going lower and lower,
Speaker 1: like Fraser's got to be Fraser's got to be number two.
Speaker 1: Oh after one day, shout out to Fraser. He's a
Speaker 1: great journals. I want to make that very clear. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: ne deska out of here, Like we just keep the pegs,
Speaker 1: just keep getting lower every time everyone gets an a
Speaker 1: list interview in one week. Because Cam got to be
Speaker 1: there now too, if he was, if he wasn't.
Speaker 2: Already, I didn't memorize the.
Speaker 1: List, but yeah, for sure, but they should do a
Speaker 1: lot of sports stuff. That's where I think maybe they
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been on the list before. But I think
Speaker 1: anyone that gets to Jacob interview, you're automatically on the
Speaker 1: top twenty media list.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mellow will be up there as you should. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: as you should.
Speaker 1: With that said, Maul has his dancing shoes on. We
Speaker 1: are we are still and get busy in ease. We
Speaker 1: were knee deep in the bracket game right now. Oh man,
Speaker 1: my bracket is at sixty six point eight percent right now,
Speaker 1: which isn't great. But with the spreads, I've been doing
Speaker 1: okay on on hard rock that the spreads have been
Speaker 1: nicer than me than the winds here. Even I'm sixty six,
Speaker 1: I've done all right on hard rock. We have like
Speaker 1: a cool uh like bracket pool as well with some
Speaker 1: of our Patreon and Discord.
Speaker 2: I'm getting smoked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some some are our Discord people are smoking Mall
Speaker 1: money bag. Mall is currently ranked seventh in our pool
Speaker 1: of shit. I don't even know how many are here ten.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm doing okay at four. But we should have
Speaker 1: never let Tray into this. That was the stupidest idea
Speaker 1: I ever had. Someone texts treying at him.
Speaker 3: He got Arizona winning at all.
Speaker 1: I have Arizona winning at all as well. On my bracket,
Speaker 1: you have Houston winning the entire thing. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: Houston in my final four. But you can if Houston wins,
Speaker 1: you can make a run up these charts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's still hope.
Speaker 3: I'm not out. I'm not out of it.
Speaker 2: I'm on.
Speaker 4: It's I need a miracle. But yeah, I've still got
Speaker 4: some life. I still got some life.
Speaker 2: Left while we are recording this.
Speaker 1: Listen, man, one of the biggest games March twenty seventh
Speaker 1: that I'm paying attention to. Should I speak from my
Speaker 1: heart and then also speak from my hard rock heart?
Speaker 3: Both?
Speaker 2: Okay, I think both were important.
Speaker 1: Both are aligned but not aligned to my bracket Duke
Speaker 1: versus Saint John's. I have Duke beating Saint John's on
Speaker 1: my bracket. On my bracket, I have Duke beating Saint John's.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, but.
Speaker 1: I will be rooting for Saint John's and I'm betting
Speaker 1: on Saint John's. Saint John's is getting six and a
Speaker 1: half right now. I think Duke's gonna win, but I
Speaker 1: don't think They're gonna win by seven. I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna be an extremely closed game. I'm definitely taking Saint
Speaker 1: John's plus six and a half, like for sure. That's
Speaker 1: kind of like disrespectful, not to say Duke isn't good,
Speaker 1: but I don't think Duke is six and a half
Speaker 1: better than the runs Saint Johns's on right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that the smart bet with that is cool.
Speaker 1: Even if Duke wins, they definitely not winning by by seven.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a good game. But I don't know
Speaker 4: about seven though, so you might be safe.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to Saint John's with that for sure,
Speaker 1: but it conflicts because of my bracket.
Speaker 2: I have Duke one.
Speaker 4: But either way, either way, you might, you might, you
Speaker 4: might come out victorious.
Speaker 1: I just want Saint John's. I just want to see
Speaker 1: Saint John's go just play good. I was trying to
Speaker 1: be logical in my bracket, but logically on the betting side, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Taking that six and a half. I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 1: Yukon versus Michigan State is probably the other one. That's
Speaker 1: that I've been debating in in my my betting group.
Speaker 1: Chats Huskies are favorited by one and a half. That's
Speaker 1: that's the risky bet. Which which side are you taking?
Speaker 3: I think I'm taking you Yukon. I'm taking that.
Speaker 1: But what if they only win by one, because there's
Speaker 1: a high chance that could happen, especially with this tournament,
Speaker 1: it's been nothing but buzzer beaters. You're right, there's been
Speaker 1: a layoffs of someone that didn't play the whole game.
Speaker 3: On the basket.
Speaker 4: That mad Yeah, I like, I like Yukon for for
Speaker 4: one and a half though, Okay, taking that, I think
Speaker 4: I might be on your side with that.
Speaker 1: I think Yukon is gonna win, but I think it
Speaker 1: might only be by one point. I'm still gonna go Yukon.
Speaker 1: I'm that bet for sure. But anyone that is betting
Speaker 1: hard rock bet, that's our guys. We've uh, we've been
Speaker 1: doing okay on on that side. We also have our
Speaker 1: label bracket. Have you have you take a look to
Speaker 1: look at them.
Speaker 2: On I didn't look at that yet, but the first
Speaker 2: round is over, right, first round is over.
Speaker 1: Shout out to to everybody that that did participate in
Speaker 1: the first round. We can run through this really quick
Speaker 1: for those that are just tuning in maybe didn't hear.
Speaker 1: A few episodes ago, we put together a March Madness
Speaker 1: style bracket with each rap label, and.
Speaker 3: It was mad about some of those some of some
Speaker 3: of those rankings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely got got some flak.
Speaker 1: But then there was also people dming me that I
Speaker 1: just don't think they understand how brackets work. They were like,
Speaker 1: why would you guys ever put death Row against Dreamville?
Speaker 1: Like that's so unfirm, Like that's how brackets work. The
Speaker 1: number one seed is gonna go against the worst seed.
Speaker 1: That's how it works. But we can run through this quickly.
Speaker 1: First round death row Dreamville not really a surprise. Their
Speaker 1: death row cleans up QC versus Tommy Boy QC with
Speaker 1: I didn't know if that one was gonna go the
Speaker 1: way I thought. I don't know if QC gets the
Speaker 1: same respect that I have for them, But maybe people
Speaker 1: are just unfamiliar with Tommy Boy. Yeah, for sure, I
Speaker 1: was thinking maybe there'd be an upset there.
Speaker 2: There wasn't.
Speaker 1: Rough Riders g and it, man, Fuck y'all. Rough Riders
Speaker 1: with the clear wind.
Speaker 2: Was an even close. It was a blowout.
Speaker 1: Shady after Matt had a two seed against o Vio
Speaker 1: after Math Shady wins that.
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, was it a blowout? It was
Speaker 2: Nicki Nicki Minaj versus Roy Woods. Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2: It was a nail bier. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Getting to the lower bracket here, cash money versus Griselda,
Speaker 1: cash money, rap a lot versus no limit. They went
Speaker 1: no limit man, Fuck y'all, Okay, I'm not saying no
Speaker 1: limits not incredible, y'all go through yeah scarface alone?
Speaker 4: Oh man, they don't they don't respect the eldest man.
Speaker 4: That's the problem. It's the problem with these youngsters. He's youngsters.
Speaker 4: Everybody loves murder Murder Inc. Versus CMG. That was a
Speaker 4: tough one for CMG. Bad matchup because I think CMG
Speaker 4: could have went far in this tournament. But it's tough
Speaker 4: when you're going against Murder Inc.
Speaker 1: In the first round. But that's a three seed to
Speaker 1: a sixteed. Sorry, CMG, you should be here next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a.
Speaker 4: Lot of freshet, a lot of people in the transfer portal.
Speaker 3: Man, they got some people in the portal. Don't worry
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: Glo Glowal is still young. Yeah, she's not ready to
Speaker 2: go to the lead.
Speaker 3: She'll be back.
Speaker 2: Uh so so deaf.
Speaker 1: Sorry, our intern that was born in uh twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: put Soso records and they still won against yl.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure who's on that roster, but they still won.
Speaker 2: That's fucked tough thing. If I'm why, I sell, I'm
Speaker 2: mad that so So beat me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Loud Records verus DTP kind of knew where that
Speaker 1: one was gonna go. Swish the House versus cold chilling
Speaker 1: Swish House. Y'all are fucking absolutely insane, cold Chilling could
Speaker 1: have made it to the final four.
Speaker 2: Good Music versus ruthless Good Music one.
Speaker 1: I guess I get it, bad Boy verse hypnotized Mind
Speaker 1: bad Boy obviously there, td E versus rough House tde
Speaker 1: Uptown Records versus MMG. I thought y'all were gonna go
Speaker 1: MMG on this. I really I hell no, no, I
Speaker 1: don't think we in this room. I did think people
Speaker 1: might pick MMG over that raucous verse. Grand Hustle, Grand
Speaker 1: Hustle wins I Grand Hustle be raucous, that that might
Speaker 1: be the biggest upset. Oh, that's the bracketbuster. That's got
Speaker 1: a bracketbuster. That was a bracketbuster. That's Davidson. That's like
Speaker 1: Iggy is is Steph Curry? Like how did how did
Speaker 1: Davidson get there? Is Steph? Who did Jamia Nelson and
Speaker 1: uh Lebron's Moms ex play for again? Saint Bonaventure, Saint Joe,
Speaker 1: Saint Joe's Bonovich No, Sat Bonnie's has done some damage
Speaker 1: in bracket busting before. Yeah, Joe's that's all right. Grand
Speaker 1: Hustle is definitely Saint Joe's this because that's nuts. Rockefeller
Speaker 1: verse ten seventeen. I mean, yeah, that where that goes.
Speaker 1: So we don't have to go through the next matchups
Speaker 1: with every single one, but let's let's pick a few
Speaker 1: where we want to make some predictions. Rough Riders versus
Speaker 1: Aftermath is a two and three seed.
Speaker 3: That's the next matchup, Rough Aftermath.
Speaker 1: I'm still going after Math when you have the run
Speaker 1: of Eminem and you have the run of fifty cent alone.
Speaker 3: Yeah that pains me, but yeah, gotta go after Math there.
Speaker 1: You know what where you could make an argument which
Speaker 1: would be a good of like getting one and a
Speaker 1: half points, It would be the third person on the
Speaker 1: roster that would really define that because all right, X
Speaker 1: had an insane run, not to Eminem's just off sheer longevity,
Speaker 1: but X had a crazy run that could you could
Speaker 1: debate against fifties with his first three albums versus X's
Speaker 1: first three albums, Like you.
Speaker 2: Could make a case.
Speaker 1: Do you put Eve against Obi Trice at that point?
Speaker 1: Because now I'm starting to lean more on Rough Riders
Speaker 1: if you get deeper into the bench, because the locks
Speaker 1: only add we are the Streets, which to me is
Speaker 1: a classic, but it wasn't their money power respect where
Speaker 1: they had insane hit records, but they had rotted divage
Speaker 1: on there got the locks. Once you go down the bench,
Speaker 1: rough Riders may beat Aftermath, Yes, carry the whole squad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like when once you get to Bizarre, I think Eve
Speaker 1: is clearing up Bizarre for sure.
Speaker 3: For sure, for sure that matchup, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I had Aftermath that as a two seed myself. I
Speaker 1: think rough Riders could could upset them.
Speaker 4: That could be close. Yeah, that's gonna be a close.
Speaker 4: That might be the closest matchup.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cash money no limit.
Speaker 1: I mean we saw that verses already, but that did
Speaker 1: not include Wayne Nikki and uh Drake.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I just don't think. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: ain't got to.
Speaker 1: Do anyone in this side of the I'm sorry guys
Speaker 1: that you had to even go against cash Money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So So Deaf Murder inc M. I don't know where
Speaker 1: I land on that.
Speaker 2: I think I'm going so so Deaf.
Speaker 1: It had a much longer run. Yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I would probably have to land on So so Deaf.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: I love Charlie Baltimore. But again, once you get down
Speaker 1: the bench and then your starters get tired. Sorry, make
Speaker 1: some stuff yeah, it get different. I don't know it
Speaker 1: get different, but yeah, you can now vote for the
Speaker 1: next round. Shout out to everyone that did participate in this,
Speaker 1: and I love all the messages and debates of how
Speaker 1: stupid you think we are with where these rankings are.
Speaker 2: But it's it's in y'all hands now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if they take Grand Hustle, like, what
Speaker 1: was the dude that did the game stop insider trading thing? Yeah, roaring,
Speaker 1: If y'all roaring kitty Grand Hustle to the to the
Speaker 1: final four, I'm won't be so fucking masch.
Speaker 4: Who's the Who's grehand Hustle? Next matchup against Rockefeller? Hell nah?
Speaker 1: But you have to understand the power is in the
Speaker 1: people's hands. That's why GameStop they were able to change
Speaker 1: the stock. We can't beat Wall Street and be like,
Speaker 1: now we gotta change the rules again, do it?
Speaker 2: People? The people get behind Grand Hustle.
Speaker 4: People are stupid. They ain't that stupid? People stupid? Now,
Speaker 4: I'm with you on that, they ain't that stupid. Rockefeller
Speaker 4: to the finals.
Speaker 1: Now, they I think they might champion around Great Hustle
Speaker 1: to make a point, because then they show that we
Speaker 1: have the power Rockefeller wins this round, it would be
Speaker 1: against Uptown or TD.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Rockefeller walking, they walking walking, they walk into
Speaker 4: the finals.
Speaker 1: Between Uptown and TD. That's that's a tough matchup. I
Speaker 1: think TD might slightly beat them, but again that's that
Speaker 1: that could go either way with me, and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: think it was crazy. I don't know if Rockefellers just
Speaker 1: walking through TD or Uptime Records just walking walking walk
Speaker 1: Kanye West dog Kanye west Man talking about how do
Speaker 1: we talk about Kanye.
Speaker 3: He talking about right now? It's a dog walk, bro,
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 2: Isaiah Shavers, Emil.
Speaker 1: Don't see take you take your pick, take your pick man.
Speaker 3: Man, don't do that doing that rock and filler to
Speaker 3: the final four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so as well. But it has been
Speaker 1: fun so far, and I love seeing who who people
Speaker 1: are voting for. It's been a really cool Patreon discord
Speaker 1: type thing.
Speaker 2: You're paying attention to our socials.
Speaker 1: The links are there and you can vote and again
Speaker 1: shout out to everyone that has been voting, and shout
Speaker 1: out to hard Rock. Maybe one day we can convince
Speaker 1: hard Rock to add this to their you know, their dashboard,
Speaker 1: the label, and we could start really betting on label labels,
Speaker 1: label ship.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I think this brag has done a lot of good
Speaker 1: for artists as well. M M G got knocked out
Speaker 1: of the first round, and now Meek is doing AI, found.
Speaker 2: A new path. What do you mean he's doing AI.
Speaker 2: He's doing it.
Speaker 3: He's like, yo, I got a I know, like he's
Speaker 3: using AI.
Speaker 2: Yeah for what.
Speaker 1: I mean, things that I actually think are great, But
Speaker 1: they're gonna clown Meek because it's like everybody got chat
Speaker 1: GVT uh you said, like what he says like recover
Speaker 1: all business controls, tracking royalties, locating money, finding red flags, planning,
Speaker 1: organizing years of information, creating a family office structure, business navigation.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting my whole life for tools like this.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I love to laugh at meek sweets, but I feel
Speaker 1: I would just love to see, like, what do you
Speaker 1: think the Meek and chat Get conversation, Like I want
Speaker 1: to sneak peak add me to the group chat.
Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta see what they be saying a
Speaker 2: Meek and what he'd be saying back Listen.
Speaker 4: I love the fact that Meek is trying to jump
Speaker 4: into the tech space and do things on the business
Speaker 4: side that's We love that, but can we keep it
Speaker 4: on brand and let Meek actually tweet like we know
Speaker 4: Meek didn't tweet that. There's no grammatical errors, there's no
Speaker 4: runofs like come on, don't let me.
Speaker 2: Basically the spacing that he usually has.
Speaker 4: Come on bro like keep on brand, but don't do that.
Speaker 1: It's obvious that while he was talking to AI about
Speaker 1: these things, he said, Hey, can you formard tweet for
Speaker 1: me about what we're doing together?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even that's not an AI.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I think AI told him all those words.
Speaker 1: He just put dots in between them.
Speaker 4: Nah, that's somebody got meek phone, they got his account,
Speaker 4: they got his Twitter account.
Speaker 3: They're trying to clean up. They're trying to clean up
Speaker 3: meets tweets like, don't do.
Speaker 4: That now, they're trying to do it. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Let meet two years later. Let me get his ship off, man,
Speaker 4: that's what that's the that's the magic in it. Let
Speaker 4: me tweet his own ship, that's the magic. And meets
Speaker 4: tweets man, listen man.
Speaker 1: He said, Uh, he truly believes in this that he
Speaker 1: can't code, but he knows how to create things that
Speaker 1: last forever. Empower the creation to the masses. I do
Speaker 1: that with RAP all the time. If I could deliver
Speaker 1: a new software to my supporters or the masses, is insane.
Speaker 2: I used to pray for times like this. See you
Speaker 2: see that's come on man.
Speaker 1: Or whatever one he's trying to promote right now, Claudia
Speaker 1: or whatever the fuck is called Claude Claude Claudia Ortiz. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: one of those those AI programs.
Speaker 4: Keep the meet tweets going, Man, let Meek tweet free
Speaker 4: meet tweets.
Speaker 1: Why Meek doesn't have a coffee table book of his Like,
Speaker 1: that's something I would buy for like three hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: That would buy that mets greatest tweets.
Speaker 1: What that coffee table book? You put that in the office,
Speaker 1: Like you just gave him that. Listen, man, we could
Speaker 1: used AI to figure out how to monetize it and
Speaker 1: like where to find the coffee table books?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that's us, that's me and Meek. I ain't
Speaker 2: mad at that.
Speaker 1: How am I already h why I'm a silent investor,
Speaker 1: But how am I already bringing more to the table
Speaker 1: with making more than.
Speaker 4: You I forgot?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, pter just saying that there was somebody
Speaker 1: that created AI music and an AI artist and bodied
Speaker 1: it with AI and made you know, like millions of dollars,
Speaker 1: which I mean we already knew.
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 3: And much time did they.
Speaker 2: Give that gentleman.
Speaker 1: Oh no, he's fucked, Yeah, you know he's I mean
Speaker 1: back to the roaring kiddy shit, Like, somebody found a
Speaker 1: loophole to disrupt the system of the people that create
Speaker 1: the system. So while it's fair like these rules were
Speaker 1: never here before, why would I be punished were something
Speaker 1: that is never regulated just because you were too stupid
Speaker 1: to realize that we had the power to do this,
Speaker 1: But now you have the ability to change it and
Speaker 1: no one can do it, and now i'm you know,
Speaker 1: I owe you ten point eight million.
Speaker 2: I think it was.
Speaker 1: It was something fucking crazy and it was like, wait,
Speaker 1: this wasn't the rules. Why would I owe you the
Speaker 1: shit back? Same with the rowing Kitty thing with GameStop, Like,
Speaker 1: y'all are mad that we found a loophole in y'all rules.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just not willing to play with my freedom
Speaker 4: for a LOOPHOLEO that was never that guy. We know
Speaker 4: the loopholes did, but is it worth worth the ristle.
Speaker 2: Sometimes if you still got that money, though, if you
Speaker 2: give it back to them, you good.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: If I'm making ten point eight million with the ars,
Speaker 1: I'm going nuts. You won't know I'm spending a lot
Speaker 1: of that, don't. I didn't hold you today, Taylor, who
Speaker 1: see my numbers over here. But that's when you get
Speaker 1: a little too greedy, man, Like sometimes not ninety two
Speaker 1: bricks is too much.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to fall back.
Speaker 1: Just chill, Like if you're making if you quietly making
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand of mailbox money because you found out
Speaker 1: how to just quietly, don't go for the gusto. Like, clearly,
Speaker 1: if somebody is making you p eight off streaming music,
Speaker 1: someone's gonna notice that.
Speaker 2: Of like, wait, sweet, they tailor this made it hot.
Speaker 2: You made it hot.
Speaker 1: Because there was plenty of people that were doing this
Speaker 1: with botting forums before. And yeah, it's kind of nuts
Speaker 1: that it took them this long to do it, but
Speaker 1: I do feel them, like you have to regulate of
Speaker 1: course that AI. Shoot, I'm happy for that trailblazer, but
Speaker 1: now let's fix that. Yeah, because that that it fucks
Speaker 1: with the market for artists that are put music out
Speaker 1: now exactly so, but I mean salute.
Speaker 2: Maybe you found a way. Yeah, definitely a way.
Speaker 4: Now enjoy that all that last sell on tier three,
Speaker 4: that's where you'll be at.
Speaker 2: Getting in the day room, trying to explain why you're here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ran it up all right.
Speaker 1: To somebody that's been in jail for twenty years that
Speaker 1: has no idea what Spotify.
Speaker 4: They don't know what what AI is. They like, I
Speaker 4: haven't seen it still playing.
Speaker 1: Do they allow like Spotify and stuff on on the
Speaker 1: prison tablets?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think you get music on the tablets? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think so. That would scare me.
Speaker 1: Don't don't let like certain inmates get drill music, be
Speaker 1: fucking riots every day playing that. Are you gonna bet
Speaker 1: on the Seattle and Las Vegas NBA teams?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: No, okay, Seattle needs a team though, for sure they do. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they definitely need Vegas. That's a whole other conversation. Can
Speaker 4: only imagine what that team is gonna look like.
Speaker 1: I give it, I give it fifteen years. All the
Speaker 1: teams that are either going to Vegas or they're going
Speaker 1: to start in Vegas are going to be the conglomerate.
Speaker 1: There'll be the new Celtics Laker like the they're going
Speaker 1: to make sure all the Vegas teams are the best.
Speaker 3: There's no taxes living in uh Nevada or yeah, well there's.
Speaker 2: I mean there's some taxes, just not.
Speaker 3: As well, not.
Speaker 2: Like not like California, right, But yeah.
Speaker 1: I can see Vegas becoming just because it's everyone's investing
Speaker 1: obviously in gambling and everything. Yeah, it's why don't we
Speaker 1: make all the sports teams here? Yeah? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: go to fifty cents a planet Hollywood where you can
Speaker 1: dine with the celebs?
Speaker 3: Nah, I don't think so. I don't think I'll be
Speaker 3: pulling up today.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to give you updates on the news,
Speaker 2: that's that's all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a planet like the old planet Hollywood.
Speaker 1: They put that as like the the Avvy for the article,
Speaker 1: but they're yeah, like fifty cents opening some ship for
Speaker 1: regular people. They just planning all but they didn't put
Speaker 1: that in the article. They just had the photo of
Speaker 1: planet Hollywood. Yeah, apparently, you know, regular people will be
Speaker 1: able to be in the same place where they're going
Speaker 1: to pay the libs to just hang out.
Speaker 2: More or less. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: If I want to be a part of that sounds
Speaker 2: like a circus.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think we'll be high on any
Speaker 1: list of like demand, but I would take a check
Speaker 1: to just stand in Times Square planning Hollywood and be like.
Speaker 3: Yo, what's up? You can get you ready to sell you?
Speaker 1: So I have a daughter that's in daycare of five
Speaker 1: days a week.
Speaker 2: Okay, so fifty I'm available to be sold. Soul for sale.
Speaker 2: Soul for sale? All right, everything is for sale.
Speaker 4: Well, just have been a great conversation. Hopefully we won't
Speaker 4: be a band from Yankee Stadium. Yeah, I think we're fine.
Speaker 1: And for everyone that stays this long into the episodes,
Speaker 1: please wish DeMar's a happy birthday today.
Speaker 2: Just sir.
Speaker 3: Happy birthday, baby Dy, Happy birthday baby.
Speaker 1: The baby D turns twenty seven today, so BABYD good
Speaker 1: for a happy birthday. Do you have your your like
Speaker 1: birthday text message ready for midnight for Damaris?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah I do.
Speaker 4: It starts something like happy birthday, continued health and blessings.
Speaker 4: If your ass is not back in the studio on Monday,
Speaker 4: you no longer work here, something like that.
Speaker 3: I'm just spitballing right now. I'm just spit a week off.
Speaker 1: The timing was so perfect with the fucking flights and spitballing.
Speaker 2: I'm just spitballing because it was cool.
Speaker 1: We want to get your birthday off. I'm never, never
Speaker 1: mad at that. But then somehow you finagled the whole
Speaker 1: week off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all good. A lot of weeks off of them.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I know for a fact everyone in this room has
Speaker 1: worked on their birthday and this fucking podcast.
Speaker 2: Man, man, just because we put a balloon in the
Speaker 2: office doesn't make our birthdays better. Like what the fuck?
Speaker 2: It's all right though, we got something for you.
Speaker 1: And that's that's why men and women are so much different.
Speaker 1: Like what Peas worked on his Birthdaymarus was like, well,
Speaker 1: let's go get him a cake. I'm like, he's working
Speaker 1: on his birthday. Like a cake is not going to.
Speaker 4: Pease the men don't want to see a fucking cake
Speaker 4: on their birthdays. You don't want to change out of
Speaker 4: here anything.
Speaker 1: If you get a balloon that says happy birth like,
Speaker 1: that's not going to change a man working on his
Speaker 1: birthday's day at all.
Speaker 2: It's actually gonna remind him. Why the fuck am I hearing.
Speaker 4: My brain exactly more depression, So who's want to give
Speaker 4: us depression calories and high blood pressure with cake and
Speaker 4: shit like, get.
Speaker 2: The fuck out of here.
Speaker 3: But happy birthday, baby D.
Speaker 4: Hopefully she's somewhere having fun to join herself, and hopefully
Speaker 4: she'll have a job next week. Did she make it?
Speaker 4: Back stated, I don't even know if she's in New York.
Speaker 4: Don't know where Demaris is. I know, I don't know
Speaker 4: where Demarus is. I haven't heard from her. She flew
Speaker 4: out of LaGuardia this morning. How'd she get to Little Guardian? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Who knows? Who knows? Man, who knows? Who fucking knows?
Speaker 4: But wherever she is, hopefully, baby D, you're safe and
Speaker 4: enjoy yourself. Yes, and everybody else that's listening, Hopefully you
Speaker 4: are safe somewhere enjoying yourself until next time.
Speaker 2: See you Saturday.
Speaker 3: Be safe, be blessed. I'm that nigga, he's just ginger peace.
Speaker 2: No Willian now