Speaker 1: Every day up, click your ass up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: You know I'm finished for y'all.
Speaker 3: Done morning, everybody in Steve J M G just Hilari
Speaker 3: and Charlamagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club, long
Speaker 3: the rules and here as well. We got a special
Speaker 3: guest in the building.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed you got Belly Gang Cushington. Welcome.
Speaker 2: Brother. How you feeling man? Bliss brother Club?
Speaker 1: Where your name come from? Brother man?
Speaker 2: But when I was doing the wrong thing, I don't
Speaker 2: like when people like make their own names, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. They was just like the boy got
Speaker 2: cuss by the time Christie. Then like I started getting fat,
Speaker 2: so they were calling me belly Gang. Start rapping. I
Speaker 2: currently thinking now just put it together.
Speaker 1: Belly Gang Cushion too.
Speaker 3: And you're from Atlanta. How did you get into music
Speaker 3: since you were doing the Cushington thing?
Speaker 1: What made you say?
Speaker 3: You know what, let me put this to the side
Speaker 3: and take music series and start rapping.
Speaker 2: Take music seer kitchen Casey. I had a son, he autistic,
Speaker 2: Like I got to beat off for my son, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. My mama left me. My dad
Speaker 2: ain't really name, so like I got to beat up
Speaker 2: on him.
Speaker 3: Did I'll make you take it serious and let me
Speaker 3: take the serious get out of the streets because I can't
Speaker 3: get locked up, Yes, sir. And when did it finally
Speaker 3: connect to you? When did you know that this was
Speaker 3: the thing that was gonna make you where you needed
Speaker 3: to be to take care of yourself. When was it
Speaker 3: real for you?
Speaker 2: I met my members of Monday, like he understood how
Speaker 2: to make the dots connected my head.
Speaker 3: His name is Monday, not that he met him on Monday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he understood how to make the dots connected
Speaker 2: my head. Like, bro, you know, you can pay your
Speaker 2: rent out there, like you ain't got to worry about
Speaker 2: getting rich, like just worry about not having to work,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, or get money like that.
Speaker 2: So that when I knew like okay, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, he tapped my stream all.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, okay, No, were you scared at first because
Speaker 4: it was like you're going from something that you knew,
Speaker 4: you knew how to make money off.
Speaker 2: The you know, it's a different from like you ja
Speaker 2: a dirty nigga run around with a gun, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? I actually was like raising a family
Speaker 2: out there actually like about houses and all that, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So it were real hard, like
Speaker 2: that was a harder thing I had to do, like
Speaker 2: lead the street.
Speaker 5: I wonder what I hear people say that? What was
Speaker 5: what was so hard about it? Because you know the
Speaker 5: end result, right, the result is jail or death? So
Speaker 5: what was so hard about it?
Speaker 2: Things really like yetta think, bro, you wake up no'
Speaker 2: miss some twenty THI dollar play right now? Like that's
Speaker 2: going through your head no matter what you do, like
Speaker 2: a headache, Like I'm waking up every day like that's
Speaker 2: a twenty jail past or thirty forty very hard.
Speaker 4: You've always felt like that was worth the worry of
Speaker 4: going to jail or time or you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew it was bad though when like I
Speaker 2: was getting locked up and it was just regular like
Speaker 2: I ain't even care it would come with it, like
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You know they're getting bad,
Speaker 2: Like yeah.
Speaker 1: So who made you believe that you could actually turn
Speaker 1: this into.
Speaker 2: A whole career real for real, for real one day? Okay?
Speaker 5: Because one thing was somebody to tell you, but to
Speaker 5: actually instill that confidence in you, like you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean? I always had the confident cocker tell
Speaker 2: like I could rap like I knew, like when I
Speaker 2: get around my peers who rapped like they ain't really
Speaker 2: it ain't really like coming across like man I would.
Speaker 6: So that it was trash basically saying, nah.
Speaker 2: It jailed like people were reacting to me more. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I knew like man, I
Speaker 2: might go crazy if I take here, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But I couldn't get the business right, like
Speaker 2: I ain't understand like marketing or nothing like that. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I just knew like drop a song,
Speaker 2: it didn't blow up all right, you know what I'm say.
Speaker 1: You remember the first time you wrote something?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a studio on Cometon. My buddy who
Speaker 2: jed past actually had wrote me someday. I kep telling
Speaker 2: him like writing something. He like, Bro, like you got walk,
Speaker 2: you got to talk, bro, just put it down on
Speaker 2: wats You know what I'm saying. I think I wrote
Speaker 2: a song like true Legion or something like that.
Speaker 5: Your music does feel rooted in real life hustle, So
Speaker 5: I'll be wondering, like what part of your story do
Speaker 5: you feel People still don't fully understand.
Speaker 2: Man, Really, I paint the pictures so good, like they
Speaker 2: really understand. Like I got so many different type of supporters,
Speaker 2: like someone be rocking with the deep stuff, someone be
Speaker 2: rocking with the like your friend.
Speaker 1: That's my ship because to catch you, I like the
Speaker 1: old sort that ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, plopping his ass, bouncing mother, What do you what
Speaker 5: was we talking about?
Speaker 3: You know, would be your mix?
Speaker 1: Your mix being mixed?
Speaker 3: It was it difficult for you because people like, no,
Speaker 3: we're not with him, he's too he looks white, or
Speaker 3: he looks like skinn or he looks just with that
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 2: But I understand marketing like saying like I knew the
Speaker 2: shock value with that. So it's just like okay, cool,
Speaker 2: go crazy. I ain't even answer you know what I'm
Speaker 2: saying because just like in real life, like this the internet, bro,
Speaker 2: this ain't real. I don't been in the cell block.
Speaker 2: I don't been in other peoplehood across the country, trapping like,
Speaker 2: I ain't answering. It ain't no pulling up on me.
Speaker 2: So I ain't gonna get on the internet explain myself
Speaker 2: figure it out.
Speaker 1: Do you ever think he was like you?
Speaker 2: Did I ever think I'm like skinned, nah, I'm mixed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he said I was like, what.
Speaker 7: Cause you mixed?
Speaker 8: Like to I saw you say when you sat down
Speaker 8: with Big Bank and a Big Facts podcast that when
Speaker 8: you were younger, you felt like or it was like
Speaker 8: you were too black for the white kids, too white
Speaker 8: for the black kids.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I definitely felt like that, like you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, but like I only were raised
Speaker 2: by my black side, so I definitely like it was
Speaker 2: definitely weird with the white kids, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: because like some folk looking at me like what you're doing,
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying. But the black folks
Speaker 2: that were like like in my area, like they knew
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I was used to that,
Speaker 2: Like I was spoiled with that. Like when I go
Speaker 2: to other hoods and stuff like that, play football, like
Speaker 2: they used to be like white, Well, you know what I'm.
Speaker 6: Saying, And did it bother you then like younger coming up, it.
Speaker 2: Kind of probably did, but I think everybody got something
Speaker 2: different about their ball.
Speaker 5: When you were telling Push by the Ton, like did
Speaker 5: you ever be on the phone with somebody and they
Speaker 5: like then you pull up there like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah you talk Okay, yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah that had that happened a lot of time.
Speaker 7: How you can't do that? Like what do you do
Speaker 7: to show them? Like, yo, I'm not undercovered like they
Speaker 7: start talking.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you know word when I get
Speaker 2: around in the field, so you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: People like starting on as a you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: You said you understood the shock value.
Speaker 8: I know people didn't understan They didn't know your race
Speaker 8: at first, so when they would hear you say the
Speaker 8: N word, there was a lot of backlash for that.
Speaker 7: And that's what you're talking about. You say you understod
Speaker 7: the shock, but you kind of like didn't respond but
Speaker 7: leaned into that.
Speaker 2: I mean the thing like I ain't looking at it
Speaker 2: like that like Drake meets he said, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's just like that just what it is,
Speaker 2: Like I ain't really killer explained or kill her like
Speaker 2: do too much. Like I mean, it's just me.
Speaker 1: I always think you should just say half of it
Speaker 1: when you.
Speaker 2: Like nig crazy. I don't even really like just sit
Speaker 2: back and be like I'm finished say this word like
Speaker 2: it's just my lingo like when I be rapping, like
Speaker 2: I be talking.
Speaker 6: Like this's just what it is, Like you even talking
Speaker 6: like that almost your whole life.
Speaker 2: So it's like my whole life. My daddy called me that.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, I notice is you and
Speaker 5: I know this is who you are because like I
Speaker 5: know people that are that have known you for a while, Like,
Speaker 5: now that's really really who he is. But do you
Speaker 5: ever feel like, you know, when you say you were
Speaker 5: raised by your black side, you leaning into stereotypes?
Speaker 2: Am I leaning into a black stereotype? Well? Now I'm
Speaker 2: just being me, you know what I'm saying, being authentic me.
Speaker 5: What would you say to the people who say that though,
Speaker 5: like they were like, okay, he says he's raised by
Speaker 5: his black side, so he wears the jewelry and he
Speaker 5: got the tax and you know he talks a certain
Speaker 5: way in.
Speaker 2: My culture, like it's my culture. I don't even talk
Speaker 2: a certain way. They're just how it come up. It's
Speaker 2: my culture, you know what I'm saying, you know, dominating
Speaker 2: his culture for real? We being honest before this full rap,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, touching out a pretty female
Speaker 2: getting all the money you know what I'm saying getting
Speaker 2: back to the community, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 2: I don't really you know what, I don't say none
Speaker 2: of them. I just get the money and keep moving.
Speaker 8: Real what about to the people who would have would
Speaker 8: take issue with hearing I leaned into that like shock
Speaker 8: value of people thinking I'm white and I'm saying the
Speaker 8: N word because that's such a like sacred conversation for
Speaker 8: some people.
Speaker 2: NA I ain't lean into it. I just didn't answer it.
Speaker 2: Just like just like the girl in my intro on
Speaker 2: the AM, like, please tell us what you on ohe
Speaker 2: you no insformation like or you you're a person on
Speaker 2: the internet just typing m You.
Speaker 1: Said you had to like, you know, learn I guess
Speaker 1: the business of music.
Speaker 5: What lessons did you have to learn the hard way
Speaker 5: about like ownership and leverage?
Speaker 2: I ain't really I'm kind of blessed with a good
Speaker 2: lawyer early because he liked my music, and then like
Speaker 2: just being a hustler period, like I'm a tiltoe for
Speaker 2: I just jump into anything. I do nothing you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying until I figure it out. So I
Speaker 2: ain't really been through that yet. I sure I am
Speaker 2: gonna go through that, but like I ain't been through
Speaker 2: nothing that I feel like, damn, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe being in a distro and then it wasn't really
Speaker 2: what I thought. It wore that probably like the worst.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: You dependent right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? On with LVR end though, Okay, okay, yeah, yeah
Speaker 2: that my family, like we're going crazy.
Speaker 1: Do you see yourself staying independent long term?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you opening like some strategic partnerships?
Speaker 2: Mum, I want to be big, but you know, the
Speaker 2: game the game changing right now. I don't know, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, might not need that in a minute,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Yeah, we going big? Just
Speaker 2: this though.
Speaker 6: I love that you you actually opened up a Wayne
Speaker 6: on last Yeah went on to Wayne, Yeah, how was
Speaker 6: that when you got that call?
Speaker 2: Like what was that? I ain't believe it at all.
Speaker 2: Who was already doing like five six shows a week?
Speaker 2: So like I was just like, nah, I ain't ain't
Speaker 2: calling me what he needed me for like this little Wayne.
Speaker 2: So I still didn't believe it. And they were having
Speaker 2: a conversation for like over a month. I ain't believe it.
Speaker 2: I seen the email like the dates, What time you
Speaker 2: gotta be here?
Speaker 6: It's crazy, Yeah, Monday, Nigga, you still don't.
Speaker 2: Believe, Nigga, ain't believe you.
Speaker 1: Y'all got to call you believe.
Speaker 2: Damn. I thought it was just probably like some age
Speaker 2: and shit or just like I ain't think like they hit.
Speaker 3: So you said when you when you had your your son,
Speaker 3: it changed you a lot. And one of your songs
Speaker 3: in the album, you talk about your son being autistic.
Speaker 3: You feel like that could be calmer for being in
Speaker 3: the streets.
Speaker 2: Break that down, man, I really feel that, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Really, man, my daddy, like you used
Speaker 2: to tell me, like you know, you do wrong, they
Speaker 2: come back on your kids. Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I don't know what there's some folks tell shit or what.
Speaker 2: But like I think, like you know, waking up here,
Speaker 2: they doing the wrong thing, like you never know, maybe
Speaker 2: God wanted to slow me down, sit me down. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It definitely did. Though it turned
Speaker 2: my hustle up legally back then, like had turned my
Speaker 2: hustle up. But but but I became't like I understood
Speaker 2: mores and values and you know what I mean, like yo,
Speaker 2: people different, Like it's crazy because like I grew up different,
Speaker 2: my son now he growing up different.
Speaker 5: That's interesting though, because the reality is your son ended
Speaker 5: up being your biggest blessing because you said that, you know,
Speaker 5: finding out he was autistic ended up being your biggest motivation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, So I can't say that was a
Speaker 1: wrong thing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yo yo yo yo yo. I do know he gonna
Speaker 2: have not a hard life because because of my situation now.
Speaker 2: But I do know like all the autistic parents out there,
Speaker 2: like like they feel the same way I do. Like
Speaker 2: I see the interviews I talked to him and means
Speaker 2: and stuff like because he's like damn like my son
Speaker 2: like there, I really don't never want to leave him,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know somebody gonna care for you. Hi't
Speaker 2: like like I do. Like I was locked up with
Speaker 2: a uh. I was locked up one time, and like
Speaker 2: it was a guy, like he was just locked and
Speaker 2: like I could tell he was slick, like you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying a little different, So like I'm like
Speaker 2: it ain't wrong with him, like and we we seen
Speaker 2: we checked his paperwork and he was enough for Like
Speaker 2: I think, like burglary or something. But like how he
Speaker 2: did was like walking on the lady porch and drunk
Speaker 2: some lemonade and lyft and they locked him up. You know,
Speaker 2: sometime they hit you with a bigger charge, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He had never been locked up before.
Speaker 2: When I was talking to him, he was just like yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, how you don't get no stole like
Speaker 2: or now He was just like nah. Like he ended
Speaker 2: up telling me he get a chick. He lived at
Speaker 2: a boarding house and then come to find out like
Speaker 2: he was, it's like bro, Like he was like fifty dang. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like bro, this lady getting his chick probably, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like he and he was locked
Speaker 2: up on a two hundred dollars bun for burglary.
Speaker 8: Like yeah, yeah, being in the streets and then having
Speaker 8: your son who is autistic, which takes a lot more
Speaker 8: patience and like you know what, what did you have
Speaker 8: to tap into the most to make sure that you
Speaker 8: were present enough for him physically but mentally, man, it
Speaker 8: was hard.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie like the crying, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. He can't talk when he got older. Then
Speaker 2: what's so crazy? Like he started to talk regular and
Speaker 2: it just stopped, you know what I'm saying. So, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I've been seeing a lot of like kids
Speaker 2: his age going around them years like go through that.
Speaker 2: So but I I really just had to be like, look, man,
Speaker 2: did what it is? You know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 2: and then at a certain point I wanted to be
Speaker 2: there like every day all day, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: to make sure, like who else gonna do it? My
Speaker 2: big mama, She's a good MoMA, but like who gonna
Speaker 2: do the man part? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You would never leave your child to bit sed off with?
Speaker 1: You know how your situation was.
Speaker 2: For shure Man? Sorry, yeah, for sure, Like for sure
Speaker 2: I would never leave him because of that.
Speaker 1: You resent your mom?
Speaker 2: I did? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 7: High k Royal, he can only call if you're gonna sing.
Speaker 7: You got to sing it again till you be let's out. Yeah, Milk,
Speaker 7: it's so shy in front of company's crazy.
Speaker 2: You on drugs? No?
Speaker 9: Actually here looking for that? K what you're looking for?
Speaker 9: I'm geeked up looking for what when you're coming to
Speaker 9: see us?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 1: Whatever you're ready, that's on you.
Speaker 2: I'm ready now.
Speaker 1: You're dropping. You're dropping a project this year?
Speaker 2: I am, but I'm I got my first headline, so
Speaker 2: show today.
Speaker 1: So congratulation.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: When you drop whatever you dropping, pull up on us.
Speaker 5: I'm going to drop tomorrow a single first period hear.
Speaker 1: Okay, come on.
Speaker 6: Up, Yeah you got to Okay, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna belly gang the plug. He's still the plug.
Speaker 2: Don't put that on.
Speaker 6: So you you were growing up, right, who did you
Speaker 6: look to like?
Speaker 1: Who were you?
Speaker 6: Some of your favorite rappers? Who was your inspiration?
Speaker 2: Man? I took it like into the trap store obviously,
Speaker 2: like rock O, Jesu, t I, Gucci, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Then like future you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Out of the trap.
Speaker 6: They've been comparison comparing you to Jeezy though you ever
Speaker 6: met him.
Speaker 2: Nah. I think I think they doing that just because
Speaker 2: I was dicas and talk about selling bricks like I
Speaker 2: don't even sound like Jesus nothing like because I put
Speaker 2: the diggers on and talk draw talk. That's why I
Speaker 2: think they see the movement. I go out of hundred
Speaker 2: deep stuff like that, Yeah so cool?
Speaker 1: Are you so cool?
Speaker 2: Or the song from the song but it cras like
Speaker 2: the first day we met, we just clicked like somehow,
Speaker 2: like we've been to each other for twenty years.
Speaker 6: But oh yeah, she's from Atlanta to Yeah, so it.
Speaker 2: Crazed, like you right up the street from my hood.
Speaker 2: I ain't even no.
Speaker 1: I seen you killing Mike co signed you too. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what did that mean for you?
Speaker 2: That was big because it was so early on, probably
Speaker 2: had like ten thousand followers. He's on Curator Cuz like
Speaker 2: you had heard me, I had wrote a song Lord
Speaker 2: propelled me. I wrote that, so like he heard, he
Speaker 2: was like might like did he want to get on?
Speaker 2: And he got on it. He was like, matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I wanted from my al that was big Like me,
Speaker 2: I had never did No, I had no accolades in
Speaker 2: rap at the time. Just how somebody walking past the
Speaker 2: studio hearing my song, Like, so that's all big.
Speaker 1: What if you learned from Mike, you know, Mike always
Speaker 1: dropping some jewel.
Speaker 2: Man how to win a Grammy. No, just that, just
Speaker 2: that you know, he ain't gotta be all about gangster
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You could take a look
Speaker 2: at politics, you know what I mean. You could take
Speaker 2: a look at what's really going on to speak on
Speaker 2: that too.
Speaker 5: That's a good segue because what version of yourself did
Speaker 5: you have to in order to grow into the to
Speaker 5: the artist you are now?
Speaker 2: Probably the hot head, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 2: just reacting off as soon as I feel. So when
Speaker 2: I first came in the game, it was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this shit go with anything I do. And I realize, like,
Speaker 2: you cannot bring that over here, Tod, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, kid, that hot head. Damn.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at your stats and I see, all right,
Speaker 4: So seventy eight percent you got your fan based black.
Speaker 6: Five percent of y'all is Hispanic and black Asian.
Speaker 4: Fully got eight point four Asian and then eight point
Speaker 4: four white people.
Speaker 3: You got some ages up the people just brow Mexicans.
Speaker 2: Mexicans on there, shut up.
Speaker 6: Yeah Hispanic is yeah, I'm black. Yeah, anyway, did it?
Speaker 2: Shot?
Speaker 9: Do it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You got forty five percent females and then fifty four
Speaker 4: percent male co Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's what's up.
Speaker 7: That's that's that's up there.
Speaker 6: Are you shocked to know you got any Asian fans?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You shot for real a little bit. It'd be
Speaker 2: like closing lines in Japan and stuff. Hearing up Thoughso yeah,
Speaker 2: they were playing music out there.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Now that you've been in the industry a little bit,
Speaker 5: what's something about the industry you wish artists talked about
Speaker 5: more honest.
Speaker 2: Being theirself. What's really going on? I see a lot
Speaker 2: of folks trying to follow the leader for real, just
Speaker 2: be yourself, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, we got
Speaker 2: to push that. You need kids and everything, because like
Speaker 2: everybody can't be no rapper. Everybody can't be no you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Somebody might need to be a manager,
Speaker 2: somebody that might need to be a computer tech guy.
Speaker 2: Them people cool too.
Speaker 8: How how has it been meeting like, you know, people
Speaker 8: that you might have looked up to or listened to music,
Speaker 8: Like I saw you linked U with Drake?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, how has that been?
Speaker 2: That was big? Like they hit me like pull up,
Speaker 2: pulled up just at the gate, like my flowers, like
Speaker 2: get your flyer, Like yeah, no, that was big. Though.
Speaker 2: I don't really want to meet nobody else though, because
Speaker 2: it ain't always like like when I met Drake's future
Speaker 2: the like cool, Like you know what I'm saying, they
Speaker 2: really rock with me, Like he really rocked with me.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, But you must have met
Speaker 5: somebody that a couple of yeah, from the crip, from
Speaker 5: the crib, but like out of state.
Speaker 2: Uh out of state? Oh yeah yeah?
Speaker 1: Were they not familiar?
Speaker 2: I can feel that like for real like energy.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, people might get that from you, though only
Speaker 5: because you come from the streets and you know, you
Speaker 5: had to move a certain way kind of a survival, right,
Speaker 5: Like even when you said you used to react that everything.
Speaker 1: That probably saves you a lot of times in the streets.
Speaker 5: Now you're not there, know somebody, somebody might be looking
Speaker 5: trying to figure out your disposition.
Speaker 2: But you know, no, I think that my fault for
Speaker 2: like listening to somebody music thinking they was you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, that's fault. Oh I got you?
Speaker 8: Yeah, did that disappointment? I mean you said you don't
Speaker 8: want to meet anybody? But what else did that disappointment
Speaker 8: bring for you outside of just not wanting to meet people?
Speaker 7: Like how is it? J Did your experiences as an artist?
Speaker 2: Mmmm? Probably make me become more vulnerable, like more let
Speaker 2: them see exactly why I know my album real vulnerable,
Speaker 2: but this Nickson going to be overly vulnerable, like let
Speaker 2: him know like this all the way meet you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Yeah, for sure, did.
Speaker 1: You ever struggle with your identity as a as a
Speaker 1: mixed kid growing up? What you mean just in general?
Speaker 1: Like did you ever even want to see what the
Speaker 1: other side was doing? Okay, but did you have a choice.
Speaker 2: I should have had my baby pictures on file? No,
Speaker 2: I thought I was like a little bow, a little
Speaker 2: Romeo or.
Speaker 4: Early on, but even but never like Macaulay Culkin or
Speaker 4: nothing straight home alone.
Speaker 6: Nahna, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Okay, you never even knew your other side of the family.
Speaker 2: I never I met my mama one time. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: I met her one time. Like that's it.
Speaker 7: I saw you say.
Speaker 8: You were raised with so much like loving just whatever.
Speaker 8: You didn't even know that there was a difference until
Speaker 8: you had to know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I ain't even know, Like I ain't even
Speaker 2: missed that mama. Like you know what I'm saying. My
Speaker 2: cousin raised me, like call her mom, like her mama.
Speaker 2: I called her mom before she died. Like it's like
Speaker 2: Grandma Nana cooked chicken every Wednesday for the for the
Speaker 2: for the congregation, like they come and to preach in
Speaker 2: the basement, like I gotta help up cook the cheek
Speaker 2: with a suit on, you know hood, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So like I ain't really know, like they
Speaker 2: grew up ghetto fabulous for real, Like my other grandma,
Speaker 2: my dad and mama, she stayed up here. Oh I
Speaker 2: forgot what she stayed at. But like she I went
Speaker 2: to one O. SI's apart all that about like nine
Speaker 2: Free AJ put me on stage and everything, the rapper
Speaker 2: then I was just yeah as a kid, I was
Speaker 2: like nine years old.
Speaker 3: Need a kid as a proper because you imagine you're
Speaker 3: trying to pick on them. I'm gonna get my cousin.
Speaker 1: Let's go get your little white cousin.
Speaker 2: Before. Now that's another thing. I got brothers and sister too.
Speaker 2: Like my big brother he he the worst. So like
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, he would like that for sure.
Speaker 1: When you look at like like a racist white person,
Speaker 1: what goes to your mind? Like what do you be thinking?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand why the days old. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, I don't understand why they like
Speaker 2: that any racist person for real, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But at least you telling me you racist, and that's
Speaker 2: what you will, you know what I'm saying on the
Speaker 2: cover with it, You know what I mean, I think
Speaker 2: I get I think I think my type of people
Speaker 2: get it the worst case. Like you know, like I
Speaker 2: don't have like white people like and black people like
Speaker 2: older like real older be like you're a mixed breede
Speaker 2: like that, ain't there's nothing you could do?
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, you ever had as you ever have an
Speaker 4: accounter with a white person that look at.
Speaker 2: You like like you yeah, like you like all that? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean like growing up like my demean always kind
Speaker 2: of being like this. So I ain't really never dealt
Speaker 2: with stuff personally, you know what I'm saying. But I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't encounter stuff like that for sure. And I'm
Speaker 2: sure like even in nick game, like you probably got
Speaker 2: like gate keepers like looking at like man trying to
Speaker 2: cool though, just work hard and so on to come
Speaker 2: across the couple on too.
Speaker 1: You never had to coach with you get your homies
Speaker 1: out of a jam, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know what crazy we were looking at my records,
Speaker 2: you know, every Jill put me in as black. I
Speaker 2: never told her I don't rope white on them before
Speaker 2: thinking they're gonna help me.
Speaker 8: When you when you met Drake, the caption was rich
Speaker 8: mixed kids compos in the back of the area right
Speaker 8: areas the ship clerks. Yeah, so was that just like
Speaker 8: a fly caption or were y'all really having conversations about
Speaker 8: navigating this industry as a mixed kid because he gets
Speaker 8: a lot of like slack for like going in and out.
Speaker 2: We didn't speak on being met, but like it was
Speaker 2: too rich miex kids. It was just in the back
Speaker 2: of not having a conversation.
Speaker 7: I asked, was it just a fly conversation? You just
Speaker 7: never know?
Speaker 2: No, we weren't talking about meat. We're just to meet kids.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just came through Femi gonna say, tell him doing
Speaker 6: white voice, a.
Speaker 2: White boy crazy, I'm a suburban kid.
Speaker 1: You didn't use that.
Speaker 5: You didn't use that privilege at least once to help
Speaker 5: the homies get out of jam Man, because.
Speaker 6: How you had to.
Speaker 2: I ain't no try I'm gonna try that.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's already out, he's good looking back.
Speaker 2: I'll be getting pulled over now like that. Know who
Speaker 2: I am and.
Speaker 1: What I wanted to meet with.
Speaker 5: I wanted to meet you and talk to you for
Speaker 5: a little bit before I said this. But Drew Ski
Speaker 5: definitely was acting like you yo.
Speaker 1: No, definitely like belly because I wasn't familiar with you
Speaker 1: when he did the sketch, So it.
Speaker 2: Was just that really like I ain't gonna lie like
Speaker 2: when he did that though, Like that really skyrocketed for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so what was the.
Speaker 7: First like, oh, this is skyrocketing?
Speaker 8: Was it a phone call for an opportunity like signal
Speaker 8: the skyrocketing? I don't know you think it, Like, no, no,
Speaker 8: I'm saying from Drew Ski, like you said he skyrockets
Speaker 8: came about that. Yeah, So like did you numbers go
Speaker 8: up on social media to.
Speaker 2: Be followed just going crazy out like it was on
Speaker 2: roll who was on the roads? Like why am I
Speaker 2: follower going crazy? Then like he seen Drew Like oh
Speaker 2: he did. I ain't even watched the whole skit. I
Speaker 2: ain't see the end where he went home to the
Speaker 2: white family and ye, but I know like he definitely
Speaker 2: seen and at the time, I think that was Drew
Speaker 2: sky biggest skit he had, Like yeah, that was Drew.
Speaker 2: School was already he was already following me and everything
Speaker 2: he had already followed me and everything.
Speaker 1: And studying you just to do a skit.
Speaker 2: So I had put the laughing faces like the comment
Speaker 2: kind of got a lot of lights and ship. But
Speaker 2: then I posted a picture on like black as he
Speaker 2: get or something like that. He DM me like, bro,
Speaker 2: just won't listen to one thousand per cent one ting
Speaker 2: about you on my cool.
Speaker 1: Laughing You'll need to do a part too where y'all
Speaker 1: meet each other.
Speaker 2: He brought me out at the could have been fished,
Speaker 2: like man went crazy then, like when I went and
Speaker 2: shut down, like he was making billy cut jokes the
Speaker 2: whole time, like your drew skin, Like that's a big
Speaker 2: brand for him to just not even know me and
Speaker 2: like just really pass all emotional to me, Like y'all for.
Speaker 7: What's the life change of all that has been like
Speaker 7: for you?
Speaker 8: Because I saw a Billboard article that lists you as
Speaker 8: one of the top ten songs played in the strip
Speaker 8: clubs in Atlanta, like number young Thug, Jeezy, Young Nudie,
Speaker 8: Like you know what I mean? Like what's that life changement?
Speaker 8: Like big Superstar?
Speaker 2: Now, Mmm, I don't know it kind of feel like
Speaker 2: I don't know it kind of feel like I guess
Speaker 2: collect my path life kind of feel like shit, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Sometimes walk in it in the little ass spot,
Speaker 2: jump the little cars and just be like, man, it
Speaker 2: should be going tomorrow, like work hard every day all day.
Speaker 2: Like in my spot I got when you walk in,
Speaker 2: I got all my mud shots on the wall should
Speaker 2: remind me like, don't ever go back there in my house. Yeah.
Speaker 5: What does the Belly Gang movement mean beyond music? Like,
Speaker 5: what's the philosophy of the belly Gang man?
Speaker 2: No gang or nothing music music?
Speaker 7: What's the deeper meaning of the move movement? Because you
Speaker 7: get very vulnerable in your.
Speaker 2: Music and you inspire your I mean that name is
Speaker 2: just a name for real, Like like you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But my personal movement, I think just showing
Speaker 2: these kids like morals, values like you ain't got to
Speaker 2: kill nobody, you know what I'm saying. Get the money,
Speaker 2: Like let's get the money to have fun. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Girls, either success changed your circle or just exposed it.
Speaker 2: Mmm, it changed it for sure. I've seen something. I
Speaker 2: think I forgot who said it, but like they were like,
Speaker 2: I don't think money changed you are changing people around you.
Speaker 2: You know what? Crazy like my members told me. I
Speaker 2: used to tell them like right, being had emotional, like
Speaker 2: being had the money, like nah, that fing gonna change
Speaker 2: this ship. Like he was totally right. Like the fame
Speaker 2: making them for crazy crazy, like I'm overly humble Like fame,
Speaker 2: it changed a lot of folks. It really changed everybody
Speaker 2: for really be honest, in what way?
Speaker 1: What's it noticeable?
Speaker 2: Just like the girl I had. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: you know, asking for more money? You know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 2: not really caring about my day. And then like you know,
Speaker 2: it'll be like I can't even have a conversation no
Speaker 2: more where like man, I'm tired of work, or it's
Speaker 2: just like anytime they talk to me, it's the sad
Speaker 2: story first, Like it's just like God, damn, I gotta
Speaker 2: go talk to somebody who ain't trying to do all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, have you learned to say no?
Speaker 2: Hey? Yeah? Sure? Learn not say none at all? Back? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Talk because you know what's crazy, Like people are literally
Speaker 2: not care that you got a child. They'll not kill
Speaker 2: that that you you you work every day all day. Man,
Speaker 2: I've been woke. I just went to sleep last night
Speaker 2: for the first time in two days, I'm finish, be
Speaker 2: woke for two more. They in like three four different cities,
Speaker 2: like they don't care. Stop what you're doing and fix
Speaker 2: my problems. Like, nah, that's all that. That ain't gonna work.
Speaker 5: You do get back a lot though, from what I
Speaker 5: from what I sure for sure, Yeah yeah I give
Speaker 5: I give back a lot real actually, but I think
Speaker 5: like that's needed when I do it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm talking about like the personals,
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, Nah, w ain't doing that?
Speaker 1: Do you create music music more off emotion or intention?
Speaker 9: Mum?
Speaker 2: I think both? Like friend do? I kind of like
Speaker 2: sat back and wrote that for six Rid. I was
Speaker 2: like Rank, thinking like i'ma get it six Rid. But
Speaker 2: like in my mind, I was just thinking, like girls
Speaker 2: don't never just go to the club and talk by theyself.
Speaker 2: She's gonna stand by the box drink. She with her friend.
Speaker 2: They're gonna work together like like your friends like that.
Speaker 2: I guess that was more so our emotion. I had
Speaker 2: just noticed that before I do the song.
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 8: You?
Speaker 1: What what's going on?
Speaker 2: That's the merks right there.
Speaker 7: Oh that's the hundred dollars tea, You just those.
Speaker 10: Charlotte Magne was like, so slow man, the white tea, white,
Speaker 10: open it up and make sure you should have white tea.
Speaker 2: You can't open them though they're gonna be worth you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: You're gonna give us y'all. Okay, thank you because hundred
Speaker 7: for my But you sold out of those teas, right.
Speaker 2: So like first week when we first read of again,
Speaker 2: sold out again, again, sold out again. Now became like
Speaker 2: I guess, like novelty idol, but the idea wasn't so crazy.
Speaker 1: I love who idea was it?
Speaker 2: It was you? Ye that man? I got a team
Speaker 2: we come up with I did, but this our mee.
Speaker 8: I like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So are you more focused now and building a brand
Speaker 5: or like perfecting the art of music or do you
Speaker 5: see them as inseparable?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they in separate. You gotta do both, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Right now, folks on music all the way.
Speaker 2: I think the brand building last year pretty good, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? But this year, like folks on
Speaker 2: music all the way, I keep coming with them here.
Speaker 1: It's been hard to be consistent.
Speaker 2: Uh, It been hard, like find time to record, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I'm always in my phone like rain down ideas,
Speaker 2: ship like that.
Speaker 1: So what's what's been hard at getting in the door
Speaker 1: or staying consistent?
Speaker 2: Now that you you in the door, getting in the door, Okay,
Speaker 2: I worked twenty folks out. I don't take off. I
Speaker 2: don't do if you see me in the strip club
Speaker 2: because I got booked. Yeah, I don't take off at all.
Speaker 3: So when you are off, you stay in the studio
Speaker 3: with your son.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming, yeah, I'm with my son studio. I got
Speaker 2: to find time for the vibe, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like usually just bringing the work.
Speaker 1: Does he like the music?
Speaker 2: My son? I don't know. He don't talk no, no,
Speaker 2: but you know something like my my cousin, my mom,
Speaker 2: she sent me a video the other day. She claimed
Speaker 2: he was hum and friend when it came on the radio,
Speaker 2: and she clean, he don't really express hisself like at all,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But they feel waves to like they feel the vibe.
Speaker 6: So I was just wondering, if you head to the music.
Speaker 2: I wrote the whole album though, like with him in
Speaker 2: the carture me and him in the car, do you
Speaker 2: miss the girl that you broke up?
Speaker 1: With I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I miss all, I miss I miss all my vibe.
Speaker 1: Could you ever see yourself with a white bibe?
Speaker 2: I like all girls all close. I like all girls
Speaker 2: all coase.
Speaker 7: You know numbers that that charge fifty women forty.
Speaker 6: I love all the world like a Maigan, a Katie,
Speaker 6: you know, like one of those ever get you like?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, like Darri I.
Speaker 2: Like I like Kim kardash and Mama.
Speaker 7: Date okay to get past court?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 5: I can't wait to talk to you in the future
Speaker 5: because you know, the funny thing about talking to guys
Speaker 5: when they like kind of like fresh out the street,
Speaker 5: it feels like you're interrogating them a little.
Speaker 1: Bit, like they're getting interrogated, you know, with Jesus.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in a very you gotta talk to my
Speaker 1: lawyer kind of.
Speaker 7: When you ask them about the movement. Oh my god,
Speaker 7: he was like no, no, no, And then.
Speaker 1: They pulled out bricks showing me got scared.
Speaker 2: You've seen that.
Speaker 1: I've seen some wild ship. You can't do around long enough.
Speaker 1: I've seen new artists fresh out the street.
Speaker 7: Crazy, just careless.
Speaker 1: I know it's not him, it's the people that was
Speaker 1: with him in the back.
Speaker 7: Not Monday. Monday told him to not be careless.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just saw what I thought him putting up the back.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 4: So so this is my last question. What's next for
Speaker 4: Belly Gang Cushions? And you spoke about wanting to do
Speaker 4: big music beyond trap music.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, no, working on second album. I think
Speaker 2: the second album the most important album in somebody career.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That first one you can
Speaker 2: get lucky, but that second one like show you if
Speaker 2: you're gonna be pressure, come with depression. So I'm just
Speaker 2: working on the music right now, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: turned down shows and all that focused.
Speaker 5: For somebody listening to this right now, Like, what's one
Speaker 5: song in your catalog that you think best represents who
Speaker 5: Belly Gang Chris really is?
Speaker 2: Introduction to everything. It's it's show how the fans perceive me.
Speaker 2: It's so high perceived. It only show high perceived my
Speaker 2: past life and a new life.
Speaker 3: Let's get into a jo, my friend, do could we
Speaker 3: played that already? What else would you want to hear?
Speaker 2: That bird like pipe show that was going away? Can't
Speaker 2: pull up the no Red light in Atlanta without hearing
Speaker 2: it right now.
Speaker 7: That's a tribute to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on his beat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get into that reach out yet for that
Speaker 1: making the style. You know, she just opened up the
Speaker 1: Popeye franchises.
Speaker 7: Real in Miami.
Speaker 2: I could not I could actually do that, for sure.
Speaker 2: We gave we gave how many old turkeys we gave
Speaker 2: off from Pope when they hit the turkey from Popeye
Speaker 2: Popeye turkeys and all that.
Speaker 1: Turkeys look a little crazy, look look a little crazy crazy.
Speaker 2: But it ain't. Aven't get one. They're crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that pop up turkey, it is pretty alright seasoning. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what's.
Speaker 3: Up, belly getting cause you're telling me appreciate you for
Speaker 3: joining us, and don't be a strange to make sure
Speaker 3: you come back up here.
Speaker 2: For sure. I don't walk past the room like tea time,
Speaker 2: like I can't wait I get in. But there you
Speaker 2: have it.
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Good morning every day.
Speaker 1: I waiting, click your ass up the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: You don't finished, y'all done