1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It's our two on this Thursday. Come on in, 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Dan and the Danstan Patrick Show. Check in with the Cowboys. Also, 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: the Patriots safety three times Super Bowl champ Devin mccordy 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: will join us as well. We will speak to somebody 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: was on the sidelines in Kansas City with the injury 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: to Patrick Mahomes. He is the Football Night in America's 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: sports medicine analyst, Mike Ryan. He was there when Mahomes 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: came off the field and he'll give us an update 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: of what we should be looking for with Mahomes yesterday 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: at practice, or at least what we saw with the 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: limited video there. It looked like Mahomes was moving a 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: little more freely, and even when he went to the 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: press conference, when he walked away, that's different. Once you 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: start playing cutting, quick decisions, quick movements. There, Can he 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: still beat you from the pocket. The answer is yes, 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: but there's no real pass rush during practice. Nobody's coming 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: in to hit you. And you know, once Cincinnati dials 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: up their defense, as we like to say, then we'll 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: get a true assessment of Patrick Mahomes how healthy he is. 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Here's Mahomes talking about the treatment he's receiving this week. Yeah, 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: I was able to do some extra testing just to 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: make sure everything was good not after the game, and 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: then get a few things done to help the treatment 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: kind of start off. And then the next few days 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: has just kind of been, I mean, all day thing 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: where you're just doing either treatment or rehab or watching film. 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: And I had to take Brittany a few places with 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: me so I can be around the kids a little bit. 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: But it's a full day thing where you're trying to 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: make sure that you're obviously prepared for the Bengals and 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: a great football team mentally and physically. And you would 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: expect him to say he's good to go, and that's 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: exactly what he said when he talked about how his 35 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: ankle is feeling. It's doing good, you know, a few 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: days of treatment, a few days of rehab, Excited to 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: get on the practice field and kind of tested out 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: and see where I'm at. But it's feeling good so far. 39 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: And the line is Bengals are minus one against Kansas City. 40 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: Do you realize the Niners game against Philadelphia is the 41 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, that's the NFC title game. All of 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: the focus has been on the Bengals and the Kansas 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Eagles hosting the forty nine Ers is a oh, 44 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: that's the other game. That's right. Eagles are favored by 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: two and a half against the Niners. Yes, polling. I 46 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: was really surprised by the overunder in the game Eagles Niners. 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: I thought would be really low scoring. I think people 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be low scoring because of the good defenses. 49 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: It's forty six Bengals Chiefs. It's forty seven, one point different. 50 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: I hadn't looked at it until now. I would have 51 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: thought it'd be six or seven point different. Overrunning. Seeing 52 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: O'Connor and give me the poll question for hour or 53 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: two and then we'll check in with the Cowboys day. 54 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: Let me give you an update from the first hour. 55 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: The Chiefs lose on Sunday, it'll be because of Patrick 56 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: Mahome's ankle or Joe Burrow's arm. Right now, Joe Barrow's 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: arm still win a sixty one percent of the vote, Okay, 58 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: or we're gonna go with something different for hour or two. 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: We are as a matter off you want to just do. 60 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: Can we do a poll and just who MVP. Yeah, 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: I guess you do that. Yeah, I mean I think 62 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: it's Mahomes, but I'd have no problem if it's Jalen Hurts. Yeah. 63 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: I think what happened with him not playing at the 64 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: end of the year, they didn't have meaningful games at 65 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: the end of the year. I mean, they had to 66 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: win so they would win the division. But I think 67 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: him missing those games, you saw the value of him, 68 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, not being able to play in those games. 69 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: It was just I think I think he had to 70 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: look closer at Jalen Hurts his season. I think when 71 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: you look at his season, you look at his stats 72 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: and you go, oh wow. So he was top five 73 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: passer and top five in rushing touchdowns, didn't have many turnovers. 74 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: How many turnovers did he have? Just a couple this year. 75 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: He did exactly what you want him to do. You 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: got a talented team. He took advantage of that. They 77 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: run the football. That's what I'm curious about with the 78 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: offensive philosophy the Eagles against the Niners. Are they going 79 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: to be able to rush for one hundred and fifty 80 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: two hundred yards in this game? Yeah? Point. As a passer, 81 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: Hurts went for sixteen touchdowns last year to twenty two, 82 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: three fewer interceptions, his quarterback rating one from eighty seven 83 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: to one to one point five. Yeah, he he's most improved, 84 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: but he's not going to be most valuable. And Joe Burrow. 85 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: With what Joe Burrow did towards the end of the 86 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: year when they won with ten games in a row, 87 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: he include the postseason, he was as valuable as anybody 88 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Bob Stern is a co host of 89 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: the hard Line. It's an afternoon drive show on the 90 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: Ticket in Dallas, and Bob kind enough to join us. Bob, 91 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: you got five assistant coaches who were fired, or they 92 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: were let go or not brought back, whatever the semantics 93 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: are with this. So what is the message that's being 94 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: sent here by Jerry Jones. Well, you know that's that's 95 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: always the million dollars question Dan, and I think to 96 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: a certain extent it starts with, you know, who's coming 97 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: back from the coordinator position. But you know, in general, 98 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 1: the idea that losing Dan Quinn feels relatively assured, Kellen 99 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: Moore feels like a coin flip. And I suppose the opportunity, 100 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: if you will, or at least the obligation to to 101 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: kind of reimagine your coaching staff and maybe you in 102 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: your offensive scheme, which I would be all for, is 103 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: clear and present, and there I guess they're getting out 104 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: ahead of that with guys with expiring deals, maybe allowing 105 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: them to go pursue other possibilities. That's fine. I expect 106 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: we're not just talking about Tier three assistant coaches being 107 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: allowed to expire. I assume there's there's more sweeping changes afoot. 108 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: But again with Jerry, he's pretty good about protecting his 109 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: cards until he has to tell the world. But you 110 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: were talking about offensive philosophy, maybe changing that offensive philosophy. 111 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: Go into detail about that well in general, and this 112 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: is a sweeping generalization, but allowed me that in the 113 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: sense that Jason Garrett and Scott Linahan installed an offense 114 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: that was either for Tony Romo or for very very 115 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: young Dak Prescott, and very very young Dak Prescott wasn't 116 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: making a lot of money, but he was also definitely 117 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: driving the bus. And as this thing has evolved and 118 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: as Mike McCarthy is taken over, I was under the 119 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: impression that McCarthy was going to bring in a lot 120 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: of the stuff that he likes to do and do 121 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot less of what Jason Garrett likes to do. 122 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: But when you look at some key plays and they're 123 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: running curls across the board again just like they were 124 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: with Jason Garrett, where where you pause it two seconds 125 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: into the play Dan and you say, okay, if your 126 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: quarterback where you're going with the ball right here? And 127 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: there's no sort of rub routes or horizontal attacks, crossings, 128 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, things that modern NFL does without any any 129 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: sort of hesitation. The Cowboys really don't do enough of that. 130 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: So I think Kellen Moore can design great plays. I 131 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: don't know that he can design a great offense. And 132 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: those are two very different things. And I would like 133 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: to see, you know, the Cowboys do way more of 134 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: what Dak does well and way less of what they 135 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: want him to do, which I guess is kind of 136 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: Tony Romo stuff back there in the pocket. I think 137 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: Prescott can be fine. I do think their offense doesn't 138 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: necessarily suit him, especially if you're not going to give 139 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: him enough playmakers beyond CD lamb. It's pretty it's pretty bare. 140 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: But if they evaluated Dak accurately, I mean there's a 141 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: reason why he went where he went in the draft 142 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: here and what they're asking him to do. He's not 143 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: Tony Romo. But are they asking him to be Tony Romo? 144 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: I think too often they are. And I think this 145 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: whole league is filled with teams that get to contract 146 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: time with a guy and they say, Okay, on his 147 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: best day, can he be at the very back of 148 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: the top ten? Yes, on his worst day? Is he 149 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: still an average NFL star? Yes? Okay? So are you 150 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: willing to give him the going rate for a quarterback? 151 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: And most of these teams say yes. They panic because 152 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 1: they realize the alternative is nothing. And so the Giants 153 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: are about to do this. No disrespect to Jalen Hurts, 154 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: but they're about to give him forty five a year. 155 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: And and and are we sure Jalen Hurts is a 156 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: top five guy in this league? Well, this year he 157 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: was great. But he's also on a loaded roster. So 158 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: all around the league, teams are making these decisions. We 159 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: don't have Mahomes, we don't have you know, Josh Allen 160 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: or Joe Burrow. So what are we going to do? 161 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: And just about all of them say, all right, extend 162 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: him at the going rate, Well, the going rate now 163 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: Dan is five for two hundred, and that's a lot 164 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: of money if a guy isn't the savior. Yeah, I've 165 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: just wondered that it always felt like when they run, 166 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: it sets up the play action. I feel more confident 167 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: with Dak with that kind of game plan. And I 168 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: love Pollard. I didn't want to keep Zeke. I didn't 169 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: want to extend him. I think he's washed, but you know, 170 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: have him do things where it's there, you know, second 171 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: and four and instead of he's got to create. And 172 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: he's not one of those guys that I want passing 173 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: the ball thirty five forty times a game, right and 174 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: and and look, there's there's guys like that in this league, 175 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: and that's fine. You know, I don't think anyone wants 176 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson throwing at forty times a game. There's there's 177 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: there's guys in this league who are really effective. But 178 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: you've got to get the mix right. And part of 179 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: that is the run pass option, the ability you don't 180 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: you're not even calling a run per se. You are 181 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: making the defense decide. Uh, they're picking their poison. And 182 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: so yeah, I think I think the Cowboys need to 183 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: lean into more of that, and frankly, a guy like 184 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: Greg Roman being available actually does at least at least 185 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: pete my interest. Now, the Cowboys are are such an outlier, 186 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: Dan in the sense that, as you just mentioned, everybody 187 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: kind of knows that Zeke is not your best running 188 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: back option, and in fact that the question is now 189 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: is im ployable in the National Football League? And yet 190 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys started him nearly every game this year, and 191 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, they gave him the Lion's share over Tony Pollard. 192 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: And it's just it all goes back to, is the 193 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: head coach in Dallas allowed to be a head coach? 194 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: Because as far back as I can remember, a head 195 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: coach can decide who starts at running back. But in Dallas, 196 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: it feels like it's bigger than that. It feels like 197 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: it's a Jones family decision, and it's say, well, we 198 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: love him, he's part of the family. And you know, 199 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: and they almost make loyalty a fault in the National 200 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: Football League because they're so darned loyal And if you 201 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: go back a dozen or thirteen years, you can say 202 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: two coaches and two quarterbacks. Meanwhile, the forty nine ers 203 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: have gone to how many championship games over the last 204 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: dozen years with like four or five different quarterbacks and 205 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: you're just four or five different coaches, And sometimes change 206 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: can be too much. But I swear the Cowboys are 207 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: loyal to a fault and it doesn't serve them at all. Well. Also, Ego, 208 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: Jerry wants to show that he's with zekellyot and I'm 209 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: sure there are a lot of people said, no, you 210 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: got everything you could get at or with Dak. You know, 211 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to show you. Garrett, Yes, exactly, so loyal 212 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: to a fault. But then you go back to Jimmy 213 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: Johnson where he wasn't loyal to Jimmy Johnson and ended 214 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: up costing. But you know, this goes back to Mike McCarthy. 215 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: Are we expecting more? Are we expecting too much out 216 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: of Mike McCarthy given the constraints that he has behind 217 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: the scenes. Wow, I mean, that's that's sort of the 218 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: the the riddle here in some respects, because I expect 219 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: a lot out of Mike McCarthy, as as somebody who 220 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: followed him very closely in Green Bay. I thought this 221 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: was a massive upgrade from Jason Garrett. I really thought 222 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: that he is probably one of those guys that Jerry 223 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: would trust enough to empower him and to allow him 224 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: to sort of name his staff. And then the first 225 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: day on the job, he's like, you know what, nothing 226 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: about this offense is going to change. Kellen Moore will 227 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: still be coordinated, and you know, we love where they 228 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: are and developing Dak And I'm like, Mike, you're an 229 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: offensive guy since like nineteen ninety three with Joe Montana 230 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: in Kansas City and everything, and you're saying you don't 231 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: want to change anything that just got Jason Garrett fired. 232 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: I want Mike to grab the wheel and to basically 233 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: say I need it this way now because it's his 234 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: reputation on the line. But at almost sixty years old, 235 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: I get the impression Mike is totally fine with sharing 236 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: the load, sharing the responsibility, and sharing the decision making, 237 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: which I'm not positive this franchise needs but wants, but 238 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: I do know that's what they need. They need somebody 239 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: to have a fresh set of eyes on this thing, 240 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: not to confirm what they've been doing for the last decade, which, 241 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: as you pointed out, is kind of the type of 242 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: person the Jones family would like to hire. As somebody 243 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: who just tells them how right they are all the time. 244 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: How are the fans? Can you guys take calls on 245 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: your show disgusted? I mean the fans. The fans do 246 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: not enjoy Cowboy football anymore, the ones that I hear from, 247 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: the ones that I hear from Dan, this team could 248 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: start fifty fourteen and oh next year and they would 249 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: still be upset that this team is going to do 250 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: something dumb in the playoffs and they're going to continue 251 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: this three decade run in the desert. And the fact 252 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: the fact that you have won a Super Bowl in 253 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: three decades or twenty seven years is not that original. 254 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the forty nine ers have actually been a 255 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: year longer. It's the fact you haven't been to an 256 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: NFC championship game in twenty seven years. That's almost impossible 257 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: to do, especially with the resources of the Cowboys, and 258 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: definitely with the primetime TV positioning of the Cowboys and 259 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: all the chatter and the ratings they generate. But they 260 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: have avoided the NFC title game. They have avoided a 261 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: single win in the division round for twenty seven years. 262 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: And just think about what that says. But if I 263 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: said to the Dallas fan base. You could have a 264 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: new coach or a new quarterback. Wow, boy, that might 265 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: be a tie. Um there, they've talked themselves into the 266 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: fact that Sean Payton is smarter than Mike McCarthy, even 267 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: though I kind of think they're the same guy with 268 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: a different marketing department. Because I can't throw the owner 269 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: in that question. Yeah, oh, now now we're talking. But okay, owner, coach, quarterback. Owner. 270 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: You know, partly because the owner has insisted on being 271 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: the general manager, even though, let's be honest, you and 272 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: I both know he looks at as much tape as 273 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: as my wife does. It's not a lot. But but 274 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: but yes, there is a feeling, and I don't want 275 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: to be disrespectful here, but there is a feeling that 276 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: as long as Jerry walks the earth, nothing is truly 277 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: going to change. Well, Cowboy Football, there's your poll quote 278 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: right there from this in interview. Bob, thanks for joining us. 279 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: We appreciate it and good luck. Thank you, buddy, Bob Stern. 280 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: He is a co host or The hard Line, the 281 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: afternoon drive show on thirteen ten The Ticket in Dallas. Yeah, 282 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: when you put Jerry Jones into the conversation, with that question, 283 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, now that's different. But if I said 284 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: coach and quarterback, then it's a little bit different. You know, 285 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: you're in you're in too deep with Dak. Now they 286 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: signed up and here's your quarterback. Like it or not. 287 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any you know, a lot 288 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: of these contracts you can go well, like the Cowboys 289 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: can get out of the Zeke Elliott contract. I don't 290 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: know if there's anything like that with Dak. And I 291 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: do think Dak is a good quarterback. He's not a 292 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: great quarterback. And you know, we feel like Dallas should 293 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: be great and he should be great. We expect them 294 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: to be great for some reason. But there's no history 295 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: that says, oh, they're gonna they're gonna do the right thing. 296 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: And then Mike McCarthy, it just feels like, you know, 297 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: Mike came in and did the sleepover with Jerry Jones, 298 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: and then you wake up the next morning and you're like, oh, 299 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm the head coach of the Cowboys. Great, did you 300 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: talk philosophy? Are you going to have power here? And 301 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: it could be where you're just a puppet government there. 302 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: And I feel bad for McCarthy, but he took the job. 303 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: You know you're gonna keep doing the same thing. Well, 304 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: what is the quote of you know, what is you 305 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: know crazy or whatever? You're doing the same thing over 306 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: and over and over and not, you know, insanity. That's 307 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: kind of what you have here. All right, we'll take 308 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: a break. Coming up, we'll talk to Devin mccordy, the 309 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: Patriot safety's doing some work in the media and his 310 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: brother is already doing some great stuff in the media, 311 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: so we'll talk to him and moren Patrick Mahomes's high 312 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: ankle sprain with a medical expert who will join us. 313 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: We're back after this Dan Patrick show. Oh, it's going 314 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: to be sad. I don't know if I'll be crying, 315 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: but I might have tears in mind, maybe a little misty. 316 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: When Monday morning, Seaton gets behind the wheel Mercedes been 317 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: sprinter van. You're nervous last year, Yes, I while we're nervous, 318 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: you're like I noticeably like it was. I said, look, 319 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, when you send your kids off to school 320 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: or they're going to go someplace, you go, Hey, now 321 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: you call me when you get there. So I'm saying this, Seaton, 322 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: who's a grown man, Hey, when you get wherever you're 323 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: going Pittsburgh. You call me, okay, be careful, yes, yeah, 324 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: make sure you text me along the way, and don't 325 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: text when you're driving. What am I doing? Yeah, Polly, 326 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: but a ten dollars villa in his back pocket? Yeah, 327 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: owning a sprinter van. Let you live, work and play 328 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: out your dreams. And you can you can get you 329 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: can win that sprinter van. Dan Patrick Shows Ultimate Fan 330 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: Van Sweepstakes be Mercedes Been sprinter Van customized by gretch RV. 331 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: To enter, get official rules, visit dan Patrick dot com 332 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: unlock your potential inside of Mercedes Been sprinter Van. Thanks 333 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 334 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon 335 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 336 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR 337 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. See America's 338 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: Biggest Stars Skating Stars at the Toyota US Figure Skating 339 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: Championships January twenty sixth through the twenty ninth on NBC 340 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: and Peacock that carries our program. Here's a stat for you, 341 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's record twenty five or less pass attempts is 342 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: sixteen and one. His record when he throws more than 343 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: twenty six passes forty five and thirty five, including two 344 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: and four in the postseason. Day Start a day, Start 345 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: of the day, stut a day. This is the start 346 00:18:53,160 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: of the day. He's the better looking of the mccordy others. 347 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: He's Devin mccordy, the Patriots safety won three Super Bowls, 348 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: and he joins us on the program. And I thought 349 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: that'd bring a smile to your face. I called you 350 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: the better looking mccordy. Brother. It's been rough man everywhere 351 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: I've gone so far, all I keep caring about is 352 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: how great he's doing on TV. He's this, he's that. 353 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: I just don't see it. Why is he not playing? 354 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: Or why are you still playing? Well? He started a 355 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: year before. Decided to make sure I caught up to him. 356 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: But you know, he got old and slow. So all right, 357 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna play the Devin mccordy game. And PAULI would 358 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: you give the official rules here? Devin can't play, but 359 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: he can listen to this. So Devin started his career 360 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: as a cornerback, then switched to safety in year three. 361 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: So he has played two hundred and five career games 362 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: at cornerback. Basically out of how many games two hundred 363 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: and five he started every game of his career. So 364 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: I got me thinking, that seems like a lot of 365 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: games for a safety over two hundred. Okay, how many 366 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: safety in NFL history have started two hundred and five games? 367 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: Or more like Devin mccordy hads and can you name 368 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: any of them? Can we name it? Did one play 369 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: for the Steelers? No, I'll give you the teams. There's 370 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: only three all time. One was a Patriot quite a while, 371 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: one was an Eagle forever. One was mostly in Atlanta. 372 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: Lawyer malloy two ndred and thirteen starts, Brian Dawkins two 373 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: d and twenty one starts, and Eugene Robin Robins. That's 374 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: the only three in history that better than damn. That's 375 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: pretty good company there. Yeah, that's that's not bad at all. Now, 376 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: you you don't have load management. If you were an 377 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: NBA player, you wouldn't be playing every single game. I 378 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: mean you've started every game, you played it game. We 379 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: don't have that in football. You know, we're always told 380 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: availability as the best thing you can bring to the team. 381 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: You faced Joe Burrow. What do you see with Joe 382 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: if you're if you're on Kansas City or you were 383 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: talking to somebody on the Chiefs, what would you say, 384 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: do this, don't do that against Joe Brow. I think 385 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that Kenna season have to 386 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 1: do is you got a disguise coverage. When we played him, 387 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: watching film, you could tell he was reading coverages pretty well. 388 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: But when we got out there, different disguises, things we 389 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: were doing in the beginning part of the game, it 390 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: really felt like he had a beat on us. I mean, 391 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: I think I think he might have had three incompletions 392 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: in the first half something something ridiculous and just kind 393 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: of marching up and down the field. And we did 394 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: a better job in the second half, not only disguising 395 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: but also running multiple coverages, different things, running coverages that 396 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: look like other coverages. So you definitely you don't want 397 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: to line up really in the same defense over and 398 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: over again or just stand still because he's that good. 399 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: And there's receivers that he's throwing too, they're pretty good too, 400 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have a long day if you don't 401 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: do a good job disguise and coverages. And just competing 402 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: against those guys. What would you do with Mahomes? How 403 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: would your strategy be different knowing that he has this 404 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: high ankle spring. That's the hard thing, man, You know, 405 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: Watching yesterday, I just saw a couple of things on 406 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: Twitter with him jogging around the field. By Sunday, I 407 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: don't I just don't know. By this weekend that ankle 408 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: might be pretty good. I don't know if you're going 409 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: to be able to do a lot different a lot 410 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: differently than what you would have normally done, and he 411 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: might not be as mobile, but I still think he's 412 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: going to be able to move around the pocket um 413 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: pretty well, just because if he's moving that well on 414 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: a Wednesday, you just kind of look forward and you 415 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: fast forward to by the end of the weekend, he's 416 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: gonna be feeling probably pretty good, and you know, to 417 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: continue treatment and what they'll do on game day for 418 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: that ankle, I think he'll be moving pretty well. Explain 419 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: to me why Travis Kelsey is always open, well, I 420 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: will say, watching the Jaguar game, once Mahomes got hurt, 421 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: I would have changed my whole game playing up and 422 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: we would have doubled Kelsey. Every player I don't care. 423 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: I don't care. If we would have had a gaping 424 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: hole in the coverage somewhere else, we would have doubled him. 425 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: But I think he's such a mismatch, you know, you 426 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: try to put a corner on him or a smaller 427 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: safety that can run with him. He does a good 428 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: job using his length, his strength, and if you put 429 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: a linebacker on him, he's just too athletic. And then 430 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing he does is, like you said, 431 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: if he play his zone, he understands how to get 432 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: into gaps, how to get open, don't run the coverage. 433 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: Mahomes knows him. So I think you put those two 434 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: guys together, you have a guy that is a big 435 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: target and you got a quarterback that understands where he's 436 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: gonna be, You're in for a long day. And he 437 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: continues to do that in the playoffs throughout the regular season. 438 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: But what's the difference between trying to cover Kelsey and 439 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: trying to cover Gronk in practice? Gronk just was I mean, 440 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: he's humongous, you know, I think you know, I think 441 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: Kelsey naturally is a better route runner. The different things 442 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: he was able to do when he first got in 443 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: the league for me. I came in with Gronk as 444 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: a rookie. So, um, the evolution of Gronk of being 445 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: able to I think really in his prime when he 446 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: was really killing, he was a good route runner. He 447 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: understood how to run right up on defenders toes. But 448 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: I just think Gronk is just so big. It was 449 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: always tough to even get past breakups to reach around 450 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: him and get to the ball. And then Tommy's to 451 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: put the ball only where you couldn't get it. It 452 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: was almost an impossible cover. He's Devin mccordy, the Patriot 453 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: safety won three Super Bowls. Your favorite Brady story is? 454 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: What M favorite Brady story? I'll probably I'll probably say 455 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: obviously a lot of stories, um playing with him and 456 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: winning games, But it was funk impeting against him back. 457 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: You know, last year we played Tampa, I think, you know, 458 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: early in October, um later in the game. Uh, you know, 459 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: when you played Brady, you gotta be you gotta be 460 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: on it, and you got to be smart and your 461 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: strategy has to be you know, on point. So at 462 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: some point later and again we finally decided to go 463 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: on all out blitz and he got us a little 464 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: bit with the snap count. So as he's sitting there, 465 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: he smiles at us, knowing, knowing what's coming, and he 466 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: completes the pass to break and I'm I'm running down 467 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: on him. And as soon as he completes the pass, 468 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: moving backwards, he goes, come on, dad, blitz zero. You 469 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: think I'm not gonna know that and starts laughing. And 470 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: it just reminded me of all the battles we had 471 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 1: in practice of talking trash and us always telling him 472 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: he's lucky we couldn't hit him, and then him doing 473 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: it in the game, and just a true Brady moment. 474 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison would talk about how Brady would get so 475 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: upset with the defense in practice. Oh, we've had We've 476 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: had times where he's taking the ball and punted it 477 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: in the stands were in the stadium throwing the ball. 478 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: Instead of throwing the ball away like out of bounds, 479 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: he chucks the ball twenty yards over the fence, so 480 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: somebody has to go get the ball. Those are the 481 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: days as a defense where because once that happens, now 482 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: we're not stopping. We're we're gonna keep talking to him, 483 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: keep getting them angry. But I will say those are 484 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: the days that made our team better. Throughout training camp, 485 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: in the season. Everybody who plays for the Patriots, they 486 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: all say Bill Belichick is funny. He just never shares 487 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: that with So go ahead, Devin, tell me that Bill 488 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: Belichick is funny. I'll tell you this. I've had to 489 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: do a lot of production meetings the night before the game, 490 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, my thirteen year career. I hate going after 491 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: him because you watch his press conferences. It's, you know, 492 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: quick answers every once in a while to give a 493 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: long answer. But you get him in those production meetings 494 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: with his guys that you've seen over the years, like this, 495 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: dar last game against Buffalo, I have to go after him, 496 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: and Romo's in there and Nance and I'm in there, 497 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: and now I'm waiting to go. They're still going. Fifteen 498 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: minutes go by. Finally they're like, you know, these guys 499 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: got to get off to meetings. So I finally said them. 500 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: But now Romo gets up with Bill, walks over to 501 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: the door and they're still talking. Romo, they're over there, 502 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: laughing and joking. So it is cool to see him, 503 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, behind the scenes. And I think not only 504 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: the players different people. I would say in the football 505 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: world that he's known for a while, it has good relationships, 506 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: but they also see that the other side of him. Um, 507 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: that's pretty unique that you don't always see from a 508 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: media standpoint. Well, good luck, congratulations, you're playing next year, right, 509 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still figuring out out. For a second, 510 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: I thought you were telling me that they were gonna 511 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: put us in the AFC Championship game this weekend because 512 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: if somebody got disqualified. So I was really I was. 513 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: I was liking that. Good luck too. But now I'm 514 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: figuring out and gonna take some time. Um over the 515 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: next few months, vacation with the family, Just enjoy some downtime, 516 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: and then see how I feel in a couple of months. 517 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: You can make the announcement right here this end. Devin mccordy, 518 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: former Patriots safety. How would my brother feel if I 519 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: did that? He would probably want me to do right, 520 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: may be pretty angry. You're right, you're right trying to 521 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: get me in trouble. Man. Will you make the announcement 522 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: of what you're doing next year with your brother? I'm 523 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: gonna ask my kids. My daughter she's five now, she's 524 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: been adamant on me not playing football anymore. So whatever 525 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: I decide, I'll let her decide how we do it. Okay, 526 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: I think that would be nice. Give your brother, you 527 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: know something, you know, help his career a little bit. Help. Yeah, well, 528 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: he makes fun of me so much on TV. I'm 529 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: not sure every every time I have a bad play 530 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: he puts me up on a segment. But anytime I 531 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: have a good play, I've never seen any of my 532 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: good plays on his show. So well, help her brother out, literally, 533 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: help help a brother. Devin, thanks for joining us. We 534 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I appreciate you. Thanks for having me. Devin 535 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: mccordy one three Super Bowls there Patriots safety. His brother 536 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: is Jason mccordy. Has done some nice work in the media. 537 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: There long career man two hundred and five games to play, 538 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: started in two hundred and five. There's no load management. 539 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: By the way, Steve Kerr the Golden State Warriors is 540 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: talking about what if you reduced the season, what if 541 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: you had like seventy two games with that change with 542 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: load management, And the answer is no, I don't care 543 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: how many games you play. This is all about gaining 544 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: an advantage on the opposition. Go back you know, to 545 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: the Spurs with Popovich. He's the one that started this, 546 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: and he was like, I don't need to send my 547 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: guys to Miami. I don't need to send Duncan and 548 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: Genoble and Parker stay here. It's not the number of games. 549 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: But you know you're going to say to the players, Hey, 550 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: would you guys take a ten percent reduction in your pay? 551 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: That ain't happening the owners? How do you make up 552 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: that money for them? But I saw that with load management. 553 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think that that's going to happen. 554 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna go to seventy two games. Here. A couple 555 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: of phone calls Sean and Oregon. Hi, Sean, what's on 556 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: your mind today? Hey? I want to just call in 557 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: defense to Jerry Jones a little bit. Sure, you know, 558 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think America thinks that the Cowboys, if 559 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: they were healthy and they d Pollard and they played 560 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: that game again, the Cowboys probably win. And I kind 561 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: of like Jerry Jones for kyd of doing it his 562 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: own way. You know, he's the only owner that actually 563 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: played football. You know, he played at Arkansas with Jimmy Johnson. 564 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: And you know, when you go to work for somebody. 565 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: I always ask the owner what he did before this, 566 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: and I always have more respect for the old man 567 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: when he actually put on the toolbags. Yeah. But the 568 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: problem I have with that, Sean, is sometimes when you play, 569 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: you think you know more, and therefore you insert yourself 570 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: in these decisions. I want a businessman running a business 571 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: to hire people who then may the decisions. Jerry wants 572 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: to make the decisions. Hey, you play defensive line. I 573 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: don't care. Now, that's part of the problem. Jerry thinks 574 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: that you know I played it, I could coach it. 575 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm the GM, I'm the owner. He's too many things. 576 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: It's when I hire somebody and you let them do 577 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: what they do. I always go back to the Steelers ownership, 578 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: the Rooneys. What did they do? Gonna hire Chuck Noel? 579 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: Chuck be the coach. We're gonna hire Bill Caller, Bill coach, 580 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin coach. Jerry can't do that. How many times 581 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: is Jerry hired a coach where you go, oh, that's 582 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: just a puppet coach and it's unfortunate. But those guys, 583 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: you can't turn down being the Cowboys coach because maybe 584 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: one year you do get it right and win a 585 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and you're you know, you'll never be forgotten, 586 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: You'll be a hero. But those coaches aren't true coaches. 587 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: And I think that's because of Jerry Jones, and Jerry's 588 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: the one who does all the interview I don't want 589 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: my owner doing interviews after games. I love it. It's 590 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: content for us. You don't see that with the Rooney's. 591 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: They don't do interviews. Just you run a business. There's 592 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: certain things. I hire people to do certain things. Paulie 593 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: is the producer. I let him produce. Fritzie books, guests, 594 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: I let him book the guest. Seaton deals with advertisers. 595 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: These are things that you know. As their boss. I 596 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: asked them to do things, and I trust them. I'm 597 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: not there every meeting. I don't want to be troubleshooting 598 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: what they do. I want them to do it. Still 599 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what Marvin does, but you know, 600 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get around to that eventually. But he does 601 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: it every day. Yes, not sure what you do, but 602 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: you do it every day. Thank you. Yes see, Hey, Mark, 603 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: don't worry. That used to be me. That's true, that 604 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: used to that you used to be I don't know 605 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: what you do. But yeah, you're here, you keep doing it. Yeah, yeah, 606 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: mar solid and improving. M Well, you're improving because you 607 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: got most improved Dan at Solid. I don't know. And 608 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: you know there's a Dak Prescott feel to you, like, hey, 609 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: when you get it right, wow, but then when you 610 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: don't Chris Stapleton, Yeah, you screwed that up forty five 611 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: a year ago. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, because 612 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: Tyler is learning your job. Right now as we speak, 613 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: Tyler is sitting right next to you, and uh, you know, 614 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: this isn't a you know, a Wally Pip situation where 615 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: Tyler could take over from Marvin. It's when we go 616 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl and then Tyler has to be 617 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: able to know how to do this back here. That's 618 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: all this is. Marvin, do not read into it at all. 619 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: But Tyler doing a great job. It's that almost like 620 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: the new kicker from the Cowboys. Yeah, seton. That's like 621 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: people on social media or like, dang, why's Marvin airb 622 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: and being a seat? Yeah? Yeah, Tyler. Tyler's sitting in 623 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: there and he's kind of running the show here today. Yeah, Paul, 624 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: if you see an opening post it for a dog 625 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: walker for the Dan Patrick Show. You know there's trouble. 626 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: Let's take a break here, more phone calls coming up 627 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: and more fun just like this, right, Marv, Right, yeah, yeah, 628 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: how about a round of applause for the great job 629 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: Tyler's going today. A sad little girl in the back room. Now, 630 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: my puppy is really really missing. He's really depressed. It's 631 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: very sad. And Marvin didn't clap his little hands for tire, 632 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: did not? You did not? I will durn a break. Okay, 633 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: let's take a break back after this. Thanks for listening 634 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Covino en Rich, give me a hell yeah. 650 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: In this business, it's never a good story when you 651 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: state something that you think is obvious, because a lot 652 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 1: of members of the media would rather look at something 653 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: that maybe not as obvious or is actually reality. And 654 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: I said this about Sean Payton. He may survey the 655 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: situation and say, on second thought, I'm going back into TV. 656 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: And he said that yesterday, said you know what, I 657 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: might go back into TV now. It could be leverage. 658 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to get the job 659 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: in Denver. Once the job in Denver, do you want 660 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: a job in Carolina? I think if the charger's job 661 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: was open, that would have been the one to take. 662 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: He could stay in Los Angeles and he had his quarterback. 663 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: But if that unexpectedly opened up, then I thought that's 664 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: the job for Sean Payton. If the Rams job was 665 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 1: open with Sean McVeigh taking a year off or going 666 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: into TV, maybe that would be an opening. Now you 667 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't have your quarterback for the future with Matthew Stafford. 668 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: But you know, you start to look at some of 669 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: these job openings. Do you want to go into Denver? 670 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: You don't have any draft picks, spend a lot of 671 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: money on a quarterback you're not quite sure just how 672 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: good he is anymore? Do you want the Texans job? Now? 673 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that you have to factor 674 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: in here with you know, Sean Payton, And it's not 675 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: like if he waits this year and goes back into TV, 676 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: there will be four or five or six openings next year, 677 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: and then maybe you get the opening that suits you 678 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: that you have your quarterback if you're lucky. But John 679 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: Payton mentioned that it's like the Odell Beckham story. Nobody 680 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: wanted to ask the question that was the obvious question, 681 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: are you healthy enough to play? It was, hey, he 682 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: could land with the Cowboys. You imagine him with CD Lamb. 683 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: I kept thinking, has anybody ask him how healthy are you? 684 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: What's your time frame for playing? Nobody cared because I 685 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: wasn't a good story. Yeah, Pa, there is a possibility, 686 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 1: slim possibility, that both the Rams and the Charger job 687 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: could have been opened this year by Sean mcvay's choice 688 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: or Brandon Staley getting fired. Are those two jobs, if 689 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: they are open, close to equal right now? Well? I 690 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: would take the Chargers because of the quarterback. But you 691 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: have a lot of talent there. That's one of those 692 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: where they should be great and you start with the quarterback. 693 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: Eckler had a wonderful year. It's just keeping everybody healthy 694 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: and not you know, chargering up a season as they 695 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: always do where you know they fall flat on their sword. 696 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: But that one because it feels like I have potential 697 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: right away? Where are the Rams? Are you going to 698 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: trade away? You know Jalen Ramsey? Is Donald going to 699 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: come back for only one more year? I don't want 700 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: to have any draft picks now, so that there's a 701 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: lot of uncertainty there. You get Cooper cutback, but what 702 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,959 Speaker 1: else do you have there on offense? But I would 703 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: say the Chargers would be an ideal situation if that 704 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: job had come open. All right. Brian Kelly, LSU head coach, 705 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: signed one of the biggest contracts in college football history. 706 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: When he was hired by LSU, it was what ten year, 707 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: ninety five million dollar contract. Well, Brian Kelly was mistakenly 708 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: overpaid by a million dollars in May and June of 709 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: this year because of a costly clerical error. So that's 710 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: a long time ago. When did he cash the check? 711 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: When did he realize that he was getting a million 712 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: dollars more? You know? And they say a costly clerical eric, 713 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: No kidding, it's a million dollar mistake there. He was 714 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: paid twice across the months of May and June, so 715 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: they got paid twice in those months. But I don't 716 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: know who spotted it. Somebody forgot to turn off the 717 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: direct payments there to him and he ended up getting 718 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: a million dollars extra. But that's where you want to be. 719 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: You spot it, you bring it up. You don't want 720 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: the school to go, Hey, we noticed you got a 721 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: million dollars extra. I did, Can you wait? How long 722 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: did he wait? But they said he got paid an 723 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: extra million? Has anybody gotten a paid check? Oh? I 724 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,439 Speaker 1: can just looking at the faces. Who's got the best 725 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: paycheck story? Did you got paid more than you should? 726 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: Did you get paid twice, Paulie. Briefly, when I left 727 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: CBS to join ESPN, I went from New York City 728 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: to Bristol, and the HR person said they could not 729 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: pay me moving money because I wasn't moving far enough. 730 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 1: They said, it's like two say it was two thousand dollars. 731 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: Think that's what it was. All of a sudden, I 732 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: see this check day wanted ESPN. I get a check 733 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: on my desk for two thousand dollars for moving money. 734 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: I went to my boss and I knew I was 735 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: not deserving of that check. Technically. I went to my 736 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: boss and said, hey, I got this, and they told 737 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: me HR I would not be getting this for my 738 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: moving He looked at me. He just gave me a 739 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: wink and said And I actually felt worse afterwards because 740 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: now I was given the green light from my boss. 741 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: But I don't think that holds up at a court 742 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: of law or a HR department. Yeah, because you can't 743 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: go into management after they say you get day you 744 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: got two thousand dollars from moving expenses? Who approved that? 745 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: My bass? Yeah? See, I would have been like, is 746 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: this a test? Is this like a new employee thing 747 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: where like you're trying to see if I'm open to 748 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: stealing money my first day? Okay, do you remember I 749 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: think you'll remember that we had somebody who was a 750 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: boss who asked what you guys made at ESPN and 751 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: and it was a test because he was like, you know, 752 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: what did you make there? And then he wanted you 753 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: to tell him what he made and then whatever you 754 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: were going to get paid to leave ESPN. But he 755 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: wanted to know if you were telling the truth or 756 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: you were inflating your salary at the Mothership. That's interesting 757 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: because how would he know. Well, he might have. I 758 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: don't think ESPN is giving out former employees salaries. You know, 759 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: he did ask the question. Yeah, Paul, if you guys 760 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: are in my shoes that day, would you have said 761 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: gone to HR and said I did, I'll give it 762 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 1: back and turn myself in even though I didn't do 763 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: any wrong. Just you know I didn't. I kept it. 764 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: It's only two thousand dollars. Yeah, I mean if it 765 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: was I know what Fritzie would do. There is no 766 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: way you would give that back. I would find out 767 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: it their way and get like four five. It's a 768 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: real expensive movie, yes, set, Yeah, No, it's it's a 769 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,439 Speaker 1: moving fee or expenses or whatever that you deserved. That's 770 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: what they do. So when they say, hey, what happened 771 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: with this, be like what I moved here? But they 772 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: said you weren't supposed to get that? Yeah, no, that 773 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: guy said it. Yeah, but then that guy said it no, 774 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: that guy said it. Yes. I want to know what 775 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: the minute, the millions of salary they have to make 776 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: per year or two. Pretend like in Brian Kelly's case, 777 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: that you didn't know about the one million dollars extra 778 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: that was given to here. And I've been saying he 779 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: did anything nefarious, Well, it could be a direct deposit. 780 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't even know what's in there. You gotta be 781 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: doing really well to that. I didn't know about that 782 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: million dollars extra. And that's before he won all of 783 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: his games. How did it sound even won all of 784 00:42:53,080 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: my games? Yeah? Why would you say that? Final hour 785 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: coming up? Moren Patrick Mahomes's high ankle spring