WEBVTT - D'Qwell Jackson 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.680 Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.680 is cut to it. Good do it? Good doing what 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.520 they're getting down to? Do it? Good do it. We 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.880 asked the questions you always want to know, but no 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:29.040 one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.800 am about it? Then we're about to let you know. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:42.440 It's all what's going on with? What should I say? 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:44.879 Just say? It won't stop? Want so you tune me off? 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.239 You said to like, Hey, what's going on? Okay? How 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.239 you won't meet open? What's what's on your preferred list 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.839 of openers? I was just saying, I'm just saying it 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.880 through me off. I apologize. Sorry, Hell am I married? 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.080 Hello Steve Man, let me tell you by my morning? 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.160 Oh boy, when whenever someone's like man, let me tell 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:04.960 you you're about to get a good story. Well, so 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.680 I've started on this whole, so you know, not bragging, 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:12.000 but just more of going through it. I bought a 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:16.760 Peloton treadmill and I love running. I used to hate, 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.520 first of all, I used to hate working out and 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:25.000 I hate running now I love to run. I called 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.000 the inflection in your voice that I love it. I 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:31.560 gonna stupid runs just just to just not think. Stupid 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.440 run A stupid run. So stupid run is stupid run 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.000 when you just say, at the end of the day, 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.720 you're just struggling, can't get right right, you got got 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.679 a flat tire, or somebody didn't do something, or your 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:49.680 co worker or now with COVID, the zoom call didn't 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.400 go well, or the internet's out, and so you just 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.200 have that end of the day. What am I gonna 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.240 do just going a stupid run, which is you just 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:01.240 veg out. You just literally run like a zone. Now, yeah, 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.440 you just run. It could be forty minutes, twenty minutes, 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.160 it could be five minutes. It's just you don't overthink, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:11.079 you don't underthink. You just run right, and it's it's 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.760 very it's very good. No, So I got this whole 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.480 routine now and ever retirement, having a routine has been 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.600 extremely important. So Monday morning is my stupid ass. Because 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.040 I'm an athlete, and athletes are extreme. We don't have 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:30.440 do anything. We either go all out, balls to the wall. Oh, 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:31.960 we just getting a whole bunch of weight and don't 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:37.240 do anything. So my Monday's Monday, and Tuesday is my run. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.760 So I get up bout five o'clock. I give me 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.800 a ten minute warm up run and I do some 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.359 kind of run and say the hip hop run, it said, 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:51.760 the endurance run. It's a camp and I'm and I'm 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:56.200 old school nineties run. It's a progressive run. It's all 0:02:56.280 --> 0:03:00.760 kind of runs. So I love the peloton. So I 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.560 get up, and the podcast is on Tuesdays, you know, 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.640 so in case you don't know which day it is, 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.320 usually we dropped on Tuesdays. So Monday, I had a 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:12.200 great run, had a great run, got twenty minute hip 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.440 hop run in there. It was Meek Mills. I had 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.440 a trap it was actually a trap run. Trapped run. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.360 And R and B runs are my best run because 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.880 you just go to the flow of the music. You 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:26.840 really don't hear the words. You're just going off the 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.560 R and B run. You probably just coast RB run. 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:33.920 I went fifty eight minutes and ran almost five miles. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:40.160 John legend or War Yeah okay, And so I was running. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.320 And so today Tuesday got up and I don't know why, 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:50.000 I was enthusiastic. Bro four oh five, I was up yankes, 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.400 I don't know why, and I was saying, I say 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.400 a couple more minutes. So I got up about four fifty, 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:59.760 got got dressed, you know, sat in, read a little bit, 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.119 turn on the TV seeing what other stuff is going on. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.560 Then bang, I'll go up there and get my So 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.280 four fifteen, I'm um, my tim in a run, now 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.480 my warmer run. I'm getting. I'm up to almost a 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.719 mile in ten minutes. So I'm I'm I'm going good. 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.239 So today I said, I'm a door indorms run forty 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.680 five minutes. I'm building my endorms. Let me tell you 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:28.839 what happened. Happened? This is this is where things turn 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.520 the stream. So I'm I'm in my I'm in my 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.240 gear and so my running gears I have for your gear. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.720 My gear is I'm a sweat I'm a sweater. I'm 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:41.279 old school cat. So I'm fully dressed. I got on 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:46.279 either tights, shorts with tights or or running pants. Got 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.520 on my my my shoes. I got two pair of shoes. 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.240 I got shoes that I run outside, and I got 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.920 shoes that for running this out on treadmill. And it's 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:54.839 starting to get cold. So I'm in the house more 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.240 brother ain't trying to freeze his butt off at five 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.680 in the morning. And plus two, I'm concerned getting hit. Um, 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:06.280 so I'm dressed, sweat, I'm going. I got my l 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.320 a Dodgers shirt on. I was asking, I want to 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.560 make sure you ain't like Richard Simmons type stuff. So 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:18.840 like Richard Simmons swing, I'm not even going down that alley. 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.680 That's a good one player play off. So I got 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.960 a forty five minute endurance run, and so what is 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:30.240 the endurance shrun? To stay at the same speed for 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:34.520 forty five minutes or forty minutes because it's five minute 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.760 world warm up? But I do a ten minute warm 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:38.680 up run in the five minute warm up and then 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.599 bang for forty minutes. I only made twenty two minutes. Dog, 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.960 I was on the bus. What bus, I'm owned struggle 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:52.200 bus her. I don't know what happened. I was enthusiastic. 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.119 I was ready to go. What happened? I had asked 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.880 it like that. What happened? The girls said on the 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.880 run with the guy to run? She said, this endurance run, 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:09.440 you have to embrace being uncomfortable. I didn't embrace it, 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:14.400 but my ass was damned show uncomfortable. I was about 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.280 to give me something profound. It was just your heads 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:20.320 wasn't ready. It is profound. My body, my mind, my 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:25.960 mind's telling me yeah, but my body is telling me 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:32.599 hell no. Bro I knew I was in trouble because 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:36.960 about ten minutes in I was heavy breathing. Did you 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.960 did you call earl? Excuse me? Did you did you vomit? No? 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.960 I did not, but I did take At one point 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.839 I got off the treadmill and looked myself in the mirrors. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.840 What did you say? I said, what is going on today? 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:56.159 And my body says, ship, I don't know, broh, and 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.240 I don't know what happened. But then my mom I 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:02.159 started I did not didn't braced the uncomfortable, and she said, 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.720 you have to be okay, the only way you're gonna 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:13.720 get uncomfortable. But you have to be uncomfortable to have progress. Bro. 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:18.080 I was so struggling and in that progress by my uncomfortableness. 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.640 You know what it showed me, and I'll be transparent. 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.880 I was screwed up for about an hour after that 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.440 because it was probably the first time as forty one 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:39.120 years old that I couldn't wheeld myself through it. I 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:44.480 could not get over the hump, and I was kicking myself. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:49.240 And I do a routine. Ten minutes I run, and 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.600 after after I run, I do abs and I do 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.800 a few other things, and I stretched bro I got 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.920 twenty two minutes and I stopped. I even stopped it 0:07:58.080 --> 0:07:59.920 and went back to it to try to do it, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.200 and I still couldn't do it. And so I came 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.160 here and I said, you know what, I'm gonna be 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.600 vulnerable and say today and say if you are struggling, 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:12.040 if you are not comfortable with being uncomfortable, you did 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.360 not want to get the progress, It's okay, It's all right. 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:23.160 But what I really learned was I failed in a 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:27.160 lot of things, but I was okay with felling today. 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:31.000 I actually felt human and it was really cool that 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:34.679 I did not want to beat myself up about it. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:40.280 But I I literally didn't do my ad workout, didn't 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.920 finish the run, and I just jumped hopped in the 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.439 shower and I was struggling and I and I have 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.320 this whole routine. But then I started going in my 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.800 mind while I haven't taken my um, I do a 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:56.320 plant base um protein shape that I do, and I 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.640 just struggled all the way through, like I was like, oh, 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:00.520 I didn't do it because I can't do it too 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.079 early because then they'll wake up dudes then and you 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:04.920 get mad that I woke up dude. But I needed 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.000 my protein. I haven't been able to take it too 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:10.040 so I took it today on the way in. It 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.760 was just really cool that I'm evolving to realize it's 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:18.640 okay with not accomplishing to day. Or maybe the perspective 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.640 shift is your body couldn't finish the workout, but your 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.000 mind got to exercise today. Is that it? I don't 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.000 know if it's that profound, but I just know I'm 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.640 just giving it. Man. I drop a gym every now. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:34.400 But listen, I saved that workout. You're going back? Are 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.400 You're gonna barrel through that? Oh? You best believe that. 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.719 Forty five men the door swand a mothersucker. I am 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.880 coming back now. I don't know what the outcome gonna be, 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:47.240 but I'm gon await a couple of days. So on Saturday, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.599 if you see Smith Fam eighty nine on the peloton, 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:58.320 just no, I'm coming with that smoke. I lost today 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.000 I'll be on your back. Mom will be back in 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.480 a couple of days. And then told you so listen, 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.240 if you're struggling, if you went through something, I understand 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:13.280 that you're not alone. It happens. So I don't know why. 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.960 I think maybe guy was saying, hey, you know you 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.679 need you you need a little bit today. So I'm 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.640 cool with it. That's dope, man. I'll be there at 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.880 them all though. Who's the guest today? The Quail Jackson. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.440 The Quails a former linebacker for the Indianapolis Coats and 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:32.040 the Cleveland Browns. He was a teen pro bowler and 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:41.839 just overall great guy. The Quail thanks for coming on 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.200 the podcast. Oh thank you, Thank you guys for having 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:47.120 me thanking me. You're about to get iced up. Smitty's 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.120 got these random questions. Have no idea what he's gonna 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.880 talk about. Smitty, go ahead whenever you feel like it. 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:57.680 Ice him up. Son. Your favorite movie all time? Favorite 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:03.120 movie all time? I definitely have to say Mental Bonna 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.480 is one of them with Cuban Gooden Jr. Okay, that's 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.840 that's like my goal to anytime I would go into 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.720 camp just to get my mind right, I would throw 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:12.720 mental ban it. That's one of my all time favorites. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:18.280 Uh the program another football movie, that's a good one, right, 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.400 Watch that school. That's so the funny if I can 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.120 say this, the funny thing about that the movie program 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.040 my literal league coach. He used to he used to 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.520 have sleepovers over his house night before games. I was 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.280 what was the linebacker's name. I forget the linebacker his name, 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.880 but I was. I played linebacker, so I had to 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:40.640 embody what he lost it got it got the juices going. Man. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:46.280 So I like that um pancakes or waffles, and it 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:51.360 just depends on the mood. I mean, ah, give me 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.560 a good give me a good soft pancake, man, give 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:58.960 me a good pancake. Yeah, softy. That sounds like it's 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:03.360 an uncooked bing. That's that like a doughty pag No. 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.720 I like it just right. I don't mind a little dope. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.080 I don't mind a little doing, But my joint gotta 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:13.920 be solved. Any any flavor chocolate chill, Nah, I'm I'm 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.360 straight up, just as plain as it can be. And 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.680 some syrup and some what kind of okay, let me 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:23.520 say what what kind of syrup? Though? What kind of sirup? Okay, okay, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.719 like organic or you just going with the buzzwor o 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:33.000 you all that hot fruit toast syrup? I need all 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:39.200 the sugar cuts, all right. The first the first job 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:43.960 you've ever had, first job I've ever had. Oh that's well. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:48.120 I used to bad groceries back home at a grocery 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.640 store called public. But only work the week, is only 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.400 work on the week, is only work. For a while, 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.160 I was out the day, but I got getting fired 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.400 because my lunch break, instead of half hour breaks, I 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.480 would take an would break. I would be on the toilet, 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:05.400 just magazines and all that. So it didn't last long 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.080 before hours at the time, man, and I couldn't you know. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:15.640 I was like, you know what, this football thing needs 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:21.600 to work out for me, dude, that's terrible, dog, that 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.400 is That is just what I did. That was my 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.320 legal job. But what I my uncle, what I what 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.680 my uncle had me do was I used to mow 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:34.240 everyone's yard around the neighborhood, just you know. And I 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.440 was a bigger kid growing up. So again, when I 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.080 was playing football, we had weight limits. So in order 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.000 for me to make weight, my uncle put me in this. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.080 I'm sure you guys have heard this the sweat, the 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.200 trash bag, trash bag, cut holes in the trash bag, 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.760 and I would cut everybody's lawing all week long in 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:58.559 the mid mid of summer down in Florida. Yeah, Florida 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.960 was my first real job. You know today they call 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:06.240 that child to be Yeah. I know, yeah, I know. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:08.960 You know. I won't name any names, so we don't 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.800 want to nobody. All right, you know a lot of 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.360 people don't know this, but I gotta throw this out there. 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:20.720 You were notoriously you were notorious for getting um emotional 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:23.800 on the football field to the point of where you 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:30.240 would um be queasy. So the most embarrassing things you've 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:36.280 ever thrown up? Oh man, I get teased about this 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:37.840 all the time. He used to call me with it 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:42.720 be man. I just had this conversation last weekend one 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.520 of my aunts because I can't. I don't judge me 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.800 on this, but I cannot. I don't eat a ton 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.760 of seafood. Growing up in Florida. We had the fresh 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.080 fish Prize, we had the crowd boils all that. I 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.280 never touched any of it, but if I smell it, 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.600 my stomach will get so queazy. I could posibly throw 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.680 up like it happened before. I can't. I can't do it. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.960 I don't know whether it's an allergic reaction or what, 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.480 but I cannot do it. But yeah, I have been 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.120 known to throw up a time back in my day. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.000 You know, you know it's funny about that, is playing 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:20.040 against you, getting hit by you, And all I need 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:26.720 to do is maybe put some imitation. Craping just would 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:31.480 have been no about nothing. It would have been over 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:36.520 from the start. Bro. Yeah, man, I can't get over ye. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.800 I have a very weak stomach, very weak. I couldn't. 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:44.360 That's your worst, not mine, weak stomach. The Quail Jackson 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:52.239 got them bad guts. Okay, in retirement, your Sunday afternoons, 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.360 now you're gonna catch a basketball game or a football game. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:02.400 Gonna catch a basketball game? Why game? I've watched enough 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.880 football on my day. I'm not missing anything. But you're 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.280 throwing some basketball? Oh yeah? Because you know back in 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.760 the day, I wish, you know, I played ball. That 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.720 was my first love of basketball. I wonder who you know? 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:16.920 Back home, they had this tournament called hoop it Up 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.080 where you get three on three and it was hundreds 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.640 of you know, uh, your trees to get in you 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.160 you you play at this dog track they set up 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.440 Who's And I loved it, man, But I was just 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.280 better at football. But yeah, if it's a basketball it's 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.240 a basketball game or a football game on nine times 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.920 out of ten, and I'm probably gonna watch basketball. Who 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:42.040 is the Quail Jackson? The guy who's who grew up 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:47.960 in Florida. Let's discover the Quail Jackson inside of the jersey? 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.600 Got it? Got it? Well? The first thing that comes 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.000 to mind for me is, you know, I was one 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:57.440 of those kids. I'm the youngest of three, my oldest brother. 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.000 We have the same father, different mother, so we didn't 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:04.240 really grow up together. And so for me, I grew 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.119 up with my middle brother, my brother Dante, and single 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:11.879 family household my dad. You know, really the only memory 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.840 I have with my dad as a youth was him, 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.800 you know, giving me a bath. And it's probably partly 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:21.040 why I love bad time with my son, you know, 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.040 It's like it's very important for me that I spend 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.959 that time with him. But I think for me, I 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:32.200 was always that inquisitive little kid that probably I was 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.399 very very very shock growing up. But I used to 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:39.520 think a lot and my mother, you know, for me, 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.840 I was the problem child because I wanted to try everything. 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.480 I was cool. I grew up in a you know, 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.960 small black neighborhood, but yet I went to a predominantly 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.879 all white school. But if you say my name, I 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.000 was cool with white black it didn't matter. You know, 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.080 I was just that guy. I seem to love everybody, 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:02.840 which was you know, came off is different or maybe 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:07.040 you know, uh, you know, my mom didn't really understand that. 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:11.320 So let me let me interject, because I don't want 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:16.119 to miss an opportunity. You stated you grew up in 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:23.760 a predominantly black neighborhood in Florida, yet you attended a 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:35.280 predominantly white school for whatever ethnicity, culture, sex, creed economic situation. 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.600 Why do you believe bringing that up in the manner 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:41.800 that you brought it up? Why? Why is that in 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.640 today's culture? Why is that? Why? Why did you need 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.159 to say it in that way? That's a great question, 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.520 because I think a lot of times we all live 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:54.200 in our own silos. I own little bubbles, and for instance, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.119 I give you an example of my my own wife. 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.760 My wife grew up in the Washington, D c. Area 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.520 where you know, it's George's County was one of the 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:06.000 most affluent areas for for black people, uh in this country. 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:10.320 So her perception of black was a lot different than 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:15.359 my perception of black. And so so what is your 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.600 perception based off that statement? You said, what is your 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:23.600 perception of black right now? For me? Black right now 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:30.119 is its excellent. Black right now means means education. Black 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:34.760 right now means strength. Black right now means uh, misunderstood. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.880 Black right now means it's like the secret that that 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:43.639 we've all kind of talked away is now at the 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.520 forefront when you look at what's happened in the world 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:50.119 right now with the George Floyd murder and how the 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:54.320 conversation and dialogue has completely shifted now. You know, I 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:58.400 drive around my neighborhood and that's black Lives Matters signs 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.960 everywhere where. Before it wasn't as an easy topic to 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:07.960 talk about. So mean, so your your your previous question 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.360 about why I thought it was important to bring up 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.680 that I lived in a predominantly black area, but yet 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.399 I went to a predominantly white school. It was because 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.800 the percep I was looking back as a young d 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:23.720 Quell Jackson, I was looking for more and in my neighborhood. 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.159 You had some great role models, you had some not 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.920 so great role models, just like any other community. But 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.480 I just always thought it was much more and I 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:36.080 didn't see a lot of much more from the people 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.120 that looked like me, and only saw it in Florida 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.639 from the people that didn't look like me. So it 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:46.280 was a matturation process of when I get the from 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.399 the university that I chose. I could have gone the 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.679 University of Florida, but I didn't. I felt like it 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:53.720 was like a fifth year high school. So I wanted 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.440 to go to a you know, big metropolitan area where 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.760 it was more people that looked like me doing well 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:02.040 other people, big Melton pot of people. That's just the 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.600 way I'm kind of wired. I love to be around people, 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:08.240 you know. It's just something that has always been very 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:12.920 close to the chest for me, of trying to identify 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.480 of of who I am, because in the South, a 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.439 lot of grandparents didn't really tell you those horror stories 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:23.280 about your your blackness so important that we all get 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:27.840 educated on our history, because listen, just because you're black 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:32.800 doesn't mean you speak for everyone that's black. Everyone has perspectives, 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.760 and I think for me, I've always sought that out. 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:40.200 But my parents and my my grandparents and my uncle's 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:42.320 and my aunts, we really I really didn't have that 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:45.080 history from them. I learned through the school system, and 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:46.840 as I got old, I'm like, wait, there's gotta be more. 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.040 That's gotta be more. And that's partly why I live 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.560 in the Washington, D c. Area. You know, my wife, 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.680 when you talk to her about the history and and 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:58.760 her she can give you personal stories from her great grandmother. 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.440 She has a grandmother now that's ninety three years old, 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:06.720 her sister, So they're just endless amounts of information that 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.960 kind of ties us all together. It just makes you appreciate, 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.760 to your point earlier about blackness, what it means to 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:15.679 be black. It was a pride, and it was it 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.560 was a pride that you carried with history and education 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:22.199 and and even sparked my interests of reading. Now you know, 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.800 I was never a reader. I've gone through I'm reading 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:29.760 this book right now called Policing a Black Man, which 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:33.399 is and I just finished, uh two years ago. I 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:35.639 actually read a book that kind of sparked my interests 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:39.080 again about um when I went back to school to 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:42.879 finish my degree. It was called white fragility. It's written 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.560 by a white woman, but in a white woman's white 0:22:45.600 --> 0:22:49.440 person's perspective. To get insight of what the things that 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:53.040 you know, songs that we've heard over the years, people 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:56.439 you know, black people, you know talking about you know, 0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:58.960 different you know, how to raise their kids, how we 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.600 you know, prepare our kids when they leave the house 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:05.680 differently than their white you know friends. That It takes 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.840 a deep dive into that. And that's something that I'm 0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:11.280 really passionate about and really important about it. And I 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.240 want to push all that over to my son to know, 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.000 because quite frank, he's not gonna grow up the way 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.280 I did. You know, he's got everything he's possible. He's 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.280 got a pool in his backyard. You know, he's got 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:23.320 every toy known the man. 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