WEBVTT - From Cute to F*ckable with Dylan Mulvaney 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.680 Hi, Catherine, Hi, Chelsea, Hi, Hi, Hi. How's everybody doing good? 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:06.120 You know what? 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.800 I actually saw our friends Allison and Darling in. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:12.520 New York last week. Oh did you, I said Darling. Yes, 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:16.400 they're taking the town by storm. Everyone who's listening, please, 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:18.560 this is a reminder that if you tag me when 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.360 you're watching my special, my new special, The Feeling on Netflix, 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.759 where I wear my gold one piece, which is my 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.200 golden anniversary year. I had no idea between Gold Bond 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.920 that I was wearing gold gold bathing suit and then 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.400 my special, which I taped way before I turned fifty. 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:36.720 I was wearing my gold jumpsuit and this is my 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.640 fiftieth year, so everything is gold and that's your golden anniversary. 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:42.559 So it's my anniversary with myself. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:44.199 I love that, I know. 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:45.919 So please tag me for the special because I get 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:47.840 so many tags about my books, but I'm not getting 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:49.680 as many about my special, and my special is the 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:51.519 newest thing out, so I want to make sure all 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.279 my ardent fans are watching it and tagging me, and 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:55.160 I'll repost you. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.240 And yes, it's called The Feeling. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:58.120 I love it. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.800 And Chelsea, we also went to ask for more couples 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.120 and duos to call in or to write in for 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:05.120 many sods. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.600 Yes, if you're having a even if it's a friendship 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.440 like kind of disagreement or a relationship disagreement, we want 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.960 you guys to call in for couples advice. We're going 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.400 to do that on our minisodes as well too. And 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.000 also everyone can check out my European dates. I start 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.039 in Rekuvic mid May and I end in Lisbon, Portugal 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:24.840 at the beginning of June. So come see me in 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.880 Europe if you're one of our European fans. Also, if 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.679 you guys want another inspiring book to read, I am Maria. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:34.000 But Maria Shreiver just came out and it is beautiful. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:36.560 It's a book of poetry. I'm not really but it's 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.039 not your traditional poetry. It's like stream of consciousness poetry. 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.000 And there's a forward by her about everything she's experienced 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.520 in her life that is so moving and it just 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:48.560 blew me away. I read the entire book last night 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:49.200 on my sofa. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:50.040 Yeah. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.480 Well, I just finished Dilan Mulvaney's new memoir. 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.840 Yes, I've read that of course for our new guest, 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:57.320 I mean guest. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.280 It's so I mean obviously. You know, we read a 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.240 lot of celebrit memoirs on the show, and I think 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:02.840 it's one of my favorites that I've ever read. Like, 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.440 it's so beautiful, it's funny, it's light, it's refreshing, like 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:07.080 it's honest. 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:07.640 It's great. 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.919 Yeah, it's a great read, just like Dylan herself. She's 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:11.560 a great read. 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.040 And her brand new podcast, The Dylan Hour, just launched. 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.120 I actually worked on it. It was so much fun. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.680 It has amazing episodes. It's so fun and kitchy. It's 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.680 really fun to watch on YouTube also because it's like 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.480 sixties themed and it has a whole pink set and 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.040 it's really sweet. I would start with either like the 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.400 Norri Read episode. It's really really fun. There's an episode 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:33.600 with her dad that's really. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:34.560 Touching and really fun. 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.079 She's got an episode with Glennon Doyle. Go check it 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:38.520 out The Dylan Hour, which it. 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.600 Brings us to our guests. Please welcome Dylan mulvaney. Oh 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.680 look at you. Look at how you handled that microphone. Dylan. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.400 Wow, I'm a podcast throw Wow back by popular demand. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:53.280 Wow, by very popular demand, is our favorite. 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:58.040 Our favorite transgender woman, our favorite transgender person. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:02:59.800 Dylan mulvaney is back. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:00.120 Oh. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.160 We have a lot of catching up to do, have 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.320 a lot to talk because you've been hanging around with 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.680 a lot of my friends. I saw Alan Cummings. You 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.320 posted a picture of you guys last night. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.919 I'm like, where well? I More importantly, the last time 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.080 was on this podcast. The last thing I asked you. 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.760 I hadn't been kissed as a girl yet, and I 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.480 was like, should I do it? And you were like, yeah, 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:22.760 hurry the fuck up. Yeah, And I did accomplish a 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:23.360 lot of that. 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:24.680 So you last saw each other. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.960 But what I'm about to show you is very important 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:31.400 because I was in Paris and this was Alan Cumming 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.240 was included in this evening and I went clubbing with 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.360 a bunch of people from a conference and I left 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:42.240 the club looking like this. And I just wish that 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:45.080 for our audio listeners that they would really get to 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:45.440 see this. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.600 But can you describe what you see? 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:48.240 Well? 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.200 We can hold it up. Can I hold this up 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:52.960 to a camera? Can you see that this is Dylan. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.160 That's me leaving the club. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.600 Look, I'm like a whore on the loose. This is 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.200 what I would call summer whore. When you have a 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.680 hot pink lipstick. It's all around. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:06.800 Her once like maroon, and then it went, it's giving clown. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.279 This is ridiculous. Basically I went into the club. 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:11.840 And sucked face with everyone you saw. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.840 And just one, just one, and he really did a 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:16.800 number on my makeup. 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.599 Your face looks like my head right now. I thought 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.920 I had a pimple on my forehead morning. 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:25.960 Are you saying my face looks like a pimple. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.520 In that picture? It looks like a big pimple that 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.320 pops right now. That one. 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:33.040 We got a big problem. What I'm walking around like 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:33.560 all the time. 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.440 I thought I had a pimple on my forehead this 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.400 morning in my hotel room, and I went in after it, 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.120 and then as I was trying to squeeze it and 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.239 nothing was coming out, I realized it's a fucking mosquito bite. 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.640 Oh so I basically attacked myself. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.080 It adds character, and I went and it's like a 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:48.560 knot on my head right now. 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.479 I got into my car this morning. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.280 We're a New York cartoon with like a fucking piano 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:54.560 dropped on your head, New York. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.120 And my driver's like, what's he goes, what's wrong with 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:58.680 your head? That's what he said to me. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.279 Rapa, he can say that thoughways been my driver for 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.760 a long time. Okay, So, Dylan mulvaney, the last time 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:06.840 we spoke, you were I mean, first of all, I 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:07.880 don't even know where to begin. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.400 You've been very busy, been all over. But I was 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.320 going through the ringer right when I saw you. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.760 That was because you were getting you were getting a 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:16.080 lot of. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.040 Back a lot of backlash. And now that's just seems 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:20.360 to be the trend of my life. 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.039 And so let's revisit what was happening. It was the 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:23.800 beer commercial. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.560 There was a beer situation, and it felt like the 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.920 whole world was after me. And now I've really learned 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.039 how to not give a fuck, and I think I 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:35.320 learned that's kind of from you. And I also just 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.800 now know to roll with the punches, because if this 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:39.559 is going to be my life, then I think that's 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.000 kind of just comes with it. 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:42.280 Yeah, we do our best. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.920 I think it's very important to build resiliency as soon 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.000 as you possibly can, because if you're going to be 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.440 in a public, if you're going to be in the public. 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.719 There is no way that you're going to get out. 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.600 Of this unscathed being a public personality, there's just no way. 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.440 So when people are really sensitive and they can't deal 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.200 with it, I mean, it's a natural reaction to have, 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.000 but eventually you have to toughen up a little. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.560 Were you ever fragile? I kind of the way I've 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.560 read your stuff, like, it doesn't seem like that. 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.320 I don't know if fragile would be the word, but 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.599 I've been knocked down a lot. Yeah, I've been knocked 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.880 over and down and thought, oh fuck, maybe I should 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.080 just disappear. Maybe everyone's sick of me, or maybe this 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.720 or that and that. You know, you think that those 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.520 moments are temporary. They're not permanent. And I deal with 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.760 a lot of people that come to me who are 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:30.880 fragile and want to know what to do. 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.000 I think we're attracted to you. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.240 Yeah, maybe a magnetism because it's like, oh you're okay. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.160 But but that becomes a lot to handle too. Like 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.080 I remember this was just last week. I was like, 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.640 I had so much of my own shit to deal with, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.080 and then I had like four or five people coming 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.159 to me about how to deal with their shit, and 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.560 I remember thinking, I don't have the fucking time for this, 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.680 I'm not a counselor. But then I'm like, no, you 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:55.960 are a counselor. That's actually what you like enjoy doing. 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:57.800 Oh yeah, you want to help people. 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:00.880 So it's easier to look in rather than into yourself sometimes. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.200 Have you met anyone that you're interested in, like more 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.320 long term? Are you just having fun with strangers? 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:08.919 You know in Paris bars that'll do it? 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:10.680 Oh? Oh my god, You're gonna die. I can't believe 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.560 I'm telling you this on air. I did hook up 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.400 with my room service waiter in Paris also this weekend. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:18.520 I've always dreamt about. 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:23.480 Actually I left that that picture moment, and I went 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.320 back to the hotel and then I got a charcoonery 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:30.440 board and the waiter was so hot chelse and and. 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.560 He went Savah and I went Sava. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.400 And then does that mean suki? Suki? What is something? 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.880 How are you? I think? And I said how are you? 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.400 And somebody else is gonna quote me that was incorrect. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.320 Then we started making out and it was amazing. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:46.679 I love that these things. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.480 You were making out with your room service attendant. Yeah, 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.320 I didn't even know that was legal. 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.400 Well, I'm trying to kind of pivot because I went 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.679 on a date a few weeks ago where the person was, well, 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.360 I was on a date with a woman and she 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.520 was like She first asked me, She's like, are you 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.000 into me? And I was like, yeah, I'm into you. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:03.520 And then I was like are you into me? And 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.160 she's like well, and I was like what does that mean. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.000 She's like, You're kind of like the baby bird and 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:09.520 I'm the mama bird. And I don't know if I'm 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.240 allowed to fuck the baby bird. And I'm like, you 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:17.120 can fuck the baby bird. And I'm just sort of 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.360 now trying to figure out how to take myself out 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.240 of the cute to fuckable category, you know what I mean. 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.720 So, dear Chelsea, how do you go from cute to fuckable? 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.760 I think it's a natural progression and it's gonna happen 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:27.280 very naturally. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.480 And what I see with the room service waiter, and 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.720 it starts with sucking off the room service waiter. No, 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:32.640 I don't think you sucked out. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:33.040 I didn't do it. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:33.320 I don't. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.640 Okay, good good, because I just yeah, yeah, I mean 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.959 you can. There's nothing wrong with that. I mean, I 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.040 don't know what goes on in France, but it sounds wonderful. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:41.839 This is like when messuses go. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:42.320 Down on you. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.680 I'm like, I've had a lot of massages and that's 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:45.600 never come up. 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.720 I was gonna say you did say it though, like 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.199 that was a frequent Like. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.240 I would like I would love a messuse to go 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.360 down on me, to get on grinder. I well, but 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.320 I want to just have a mesuse offer it, Like 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.000 why not. I'm relaxed, I'm not gonna fight you. You can 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.000 go down on me, finger blast me. That's the perfect 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.439 setting for me to get figure blasted is while I'm 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.920 lying down half hour for you too. I know so, 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.440 and I hear all these stories. I even went to 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.760 this hotel that I heard, Yeah, what's wrong with me? 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.360 And then I was like, oh, I guess. And my 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.560 friends like, you're just too intimidating. I go while I'm 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:17.839 getting a massage. To intimidate, you have to go. 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.160 In full glam. You get full glamm done. We get 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.880 Jamie makeup in here just to really beat your face. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.600 Yeah, you've been hanging out with Jamie makeup. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.199 I love that woman vibe so fun. 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:28.480 I know, she's so fun. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.360 Yeah, you got to keep the good ones around. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.720 I told her she's a personality higher. You need her personality. 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.600 I was like, forget about your makeup skills. Your personality 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:37.320 is where it's at. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:38.880 That's how I feel about myself too. 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.640 Okay, so tell me about your life. I want to know. 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:45.040 So you left here and you had a lot of 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.120 drama with the beer, and then that subsided. 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:51.000 And then we started Marco polowing in you because we 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:52.960 found that I don't like to text, you don't like 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.360 to do facetimes or phone calls. So it's like this 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.840 walkie talkie app and I asked you about ayahuasca. Went 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:02.280 to do that down in by myself. Yes, And that 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.040 really made me willing to do life again. It was 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.360 like a lot of great things came up. And then 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:12.600 I came back to the States and finished up my book. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:13.880 I've got my podcast. 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:14.920 It's the podcast call. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:15.960 It's called the Dylan Hour. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:17.080 Oh I love it. 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.480 And it's sort of like to serve a podcast thank you. 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.760 It's like sort of this nineteen sixties flare, you know. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.840 I love to live in the eras. And what it 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.199 originally came from was that there was I was getting 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.959 so much hate from these like conservative extremist, like right 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.240 wingers all had all these podcasts, and I was like, well, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.360 what the fuck, I want one? And and so it's 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.559 not targeting those people at all. It's just kind of 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.760 a celebration of femininity. And the important part is that 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.880 we get to drink alcohol on it. Which do you 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:45.760 ever do that on here? 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.280 I don't, not on my podcast, but I did Burt 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.240 Kreischer's podcast, and it was around It was at noon, 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:52.319 and I had. 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.840 Two vodka OJ's. Oh and it was a two hour podcast. 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.120 And I think that's pretty much how all podcasts should 0:10:58.120 --> 0:10:58.680 be conducted. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:00.600 It's just a very loose. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.600 Format, and people are more relaxed, and it's just easier 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.960 to drink and talk about yourself. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.280 And in they'll tell you more things. 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.679 Yeah, I mean, I don't need alcohol to open me up, 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.360 you know. I mean I already have a problem with 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.079 my mouth. I gave away way too much information. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:16.520 If you were gonna come on my pod, what do 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.480 you think we would drink? Like, what's your go to? 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.680 I was drinking gin for a while. I'm kind of 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:23.680 engine you'll get there, honey. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.440 I'm a little bit in gin. And then I'm kind 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.240 of pivoting back to vodka. Now, vodka was brushing me 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.280 out for a while because it tasted like it started 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.880 to taste like gasoline. But whenever you overdo anything, it 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:36.280 starts to taste disgusting. 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:37.520 You ever tried to ever clear? 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.199 Oh no, that's really gasoline. 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:41.079 I like that. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:42.400 That's like rubbing alcohol. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:43.240 That'll get you. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:44.439 What are you drinking? 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.240 I love vodka. I love an espresso Martina. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:48.440 Oh I had one of those yesterday. 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.680 I will keep you up. And I love oh dirty 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.000 Shirley Temple. You've ever had one of those? What's surety 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:55.679 temple with vodka? Oh? Yeah? 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.680 Or an aperol sprits? Yeah, that's very my York of eyes. Yeah, my, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.200 orca very my or so you'll. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.320 Come on my pod one day of course, okay, talking 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:04.120 about how to drink. 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.480 Honored to be on your podcast, and yeah, it's sort 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.320 of just like a celebration of femininity in giving me 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.920 a chance to get off, you know, the internet so 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.960 much and kind of get in front of somebody else 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.600 because so much of what I was doing online was 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.760 just me in my bedroom, and I was like, I 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.520 haven't talked to someone in five days, so it's time 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.120 to sit down and shoot the shit. 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:24.760 And are you still living in your same house. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:25.839 I live in the cute house. 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:27.240 Okay. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.280 I didn't know if you had to move because we'll 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.120 worried about all the back That was scary. 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:32.400 But we're okay now now. 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.880 Everything's good, So that's great. I'm glad to hear that. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:36.920 What other backlash have you been facing? 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.840 I released a song called Days of Girlhood. Did you 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:40.520 hear about that one? 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.080 Yeah? I heard about that, but I did not hear 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:42.959 about the backlash. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.480 So I put this song out sort of as like 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.000 you ever heard of Rebecca blacks Friday, Yeah, or like 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.320 Paris Hilton stars are Blind. You know. I wanted one 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.320 song to give the gaze, you know, if I was 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.720 going to go at any moment, just to remember me 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.960 and and so I basically put the most sort of 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:03.440 just like still tereotypical, silly feminine things into one song. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.960 I did not think I was singing fucking you know. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.679 I didn't think I was Chaikowski or anything when I 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:12.559 went into writing this. And wow, the Internet just roasted 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.080 me because it first started with the turfs, and it 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.760 started with you know, women who were so deeply offended 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.360 that I would be singing about. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:22.160 Womanhood or girlhood. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.840 Wait, what's the turf trans exclusionary radical feminists. So a 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.920 feminist that doesn't include trans people, okay, copy like as 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.440 jk Rowling, Yes, right, but this song gave them kind 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.280 of like this perfect sort of like, oh, I'm gonna 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.560 be sad on the internet to talk about how much 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.880 this song, you know, made them so upset. And then 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.000 my audience had already decided that it was a bad song. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:47.760 But the thing about gen Z is they. 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:50.640 Will ride hard, and so when they found out it 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.200 was getting hate, they were like, well, now this is 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.480 my favorite fucking song I've ever heard. But yeah, I 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.440 don't think I meant for I don't think the music 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:58.760 industries for me. How about you? 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:00.640 No, No, I don't have any I can't sing and 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:01.360 I have no rhythm. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.000 I can't go to karaoke. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.840 I don't do karaoke, Dylan, are you not hearing me? 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.400 I cannot you want to hear me saying I. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:13.680 Do Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you? 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:15.000 Like that's it good? 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.000 No, that's not good. I know that's not good. And 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.040 I'm not taking voice lessons. What you think I need 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:21.320 to add that to my repertoire. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.120 I don't know it sounds like, you've got two months 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.240 in my Orca to fucking. 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.640 I find one month in my Orca and I'm not 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:28.520 fucking and I'm not recording an album. 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.480 You want me to come out with a song so 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:32.080 I can get more hay than you got. 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:38.760 So you can do you can be like, look you 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:39.800 you see this one. 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.440 We should we actually I should record a song and 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.240 then we release it together called you thought I was 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:45.960 an asshole? 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.800 Watch this feat. I'm gonna be pictured on it. Catherine, 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:50.280 do you sing? 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:52.280 I do I do sing? 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:52.600 Oh? 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:53.080 Hell yeah? 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.640 Okay, yeah, so you know I'll sing on the on 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:56.520 there with you as well. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.600 Catherine sings when she talks sometimes and I have to stop. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.280 Chelsea's like fuck, I'm like, yeah, Catherine, that does not 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:05.520 go with this podcast. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:07.400 I can't help it. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.440 I have a song, and Mines is not a musical 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.800 theater podcast. Minus get Ready. 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.000 I want to talk about some heartfelt moments that you've 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.520 had with like fans and people that have reached out 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.120 to you, because that must feel really good and meaningful, 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:20.400 and I. 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:21.120 Know that you have them. 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:21.880 Oh my god. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.080 Every day I think, like so often the internet feels 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.320 like the most toxic place. And then I'll open up 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.960 like a DM from like a girl that just went 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.080 to college that's getting her bottom surgery, or a parent 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.000 that like they watched my videos together and like that 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:41.280 to me is worth it. Like I think so often 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:46.680 I feel like social media and content creation, it's so 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.680 can feel really icky. Sometimes it can feel like it's 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.800