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Speaker 1: What is going on? I'm James co. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Live podcast. We got MG representing the

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Speaker 1: Bay Area. Marcus Grant in the house. He's the fantasy

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Speaker 1: editor for NFL dot Com, stepping in making his maiden voyage.

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Speaker 1: Matt Franciskovitch, fantasy editor, slash writers, slash calumnist for NFL

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Speaker 1: dot Com. The dudes like nineteen years old. He's one

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Speaker 1: of the hot young guns righting for us today. Uh, Matt,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. My man. Thanks James, glad to

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Speaker 1: be here. All right, there you go now, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm it's nice to have you. The the whiz kid

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Speaker 1: Living up to his name. My labs went back to

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Speaker 1: his homeland of Connecticut, and last I saw he was,

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Speaker 1: you know, like peeping Kate Upton at a game or

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Speaker 1: So we bring the franchise in. I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: call him the Bay Areas. You're Franciscovitch is It's it's

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Speaker 1: too long, it's just too many syllables. I can't get behind.

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Speaker 1: going with the bay Area, all right. That's it's a

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Speaker 1: little easier, I think for the listeners as well, to

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Speaker 1: keep track of of who's talking and went so MG

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Speaker 1: the bay Area, James go here and uh and yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: we gotta we got a great podcast in front. Of course,

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Speaker 1: of course we're gonna get to the top headlines. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about Bengals. We're gonna be talking about Tavon Austin,

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Speaker 1: how about Alan Robinson a potential sleeper pick as well,

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Speaker 1: and then some interesting news for Cleveland Brown fans and

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Speaker 1: about average draft positions, who's going too high, who's going

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Speaker 1: too low? And Franciscovitch the Bay Area wrote a very

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Speaker 1: nice photo essay for Father's Day. It's called Your Father's

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Team. We're gonna be talking about draft strategies, but

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Speaker 1: let's get to those top headlines. Is this year's Bengals

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Speaker 1: offense better? Better than the two thousand five Bengals offense.

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Speaker 1: T J. Hush Mazzoo said, this year's offense can be

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Speaker 1: quote better than the two thousand five version that featured

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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, Chad Johnson, t J. Houshman Zeta, and remember

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Speaker 1: running back Rudy, Rudy, rude dude Johnson. I read this

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Speaker 1: column and I was I read this article. Rudy Johnson

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Speaker 1: long long time. He he ran for fourteen hundred yards

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Speaker 1: that in your twelve touchdowns. He was a top five

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Speaker 1: with that assessment. If family Dalton the Red Headed Gunslinger

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Speaker 1: Where's Allen Robinson going to drafts? Robinson is going He's

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Speaker 1: gonna run maybe some shorter rounds, and he's gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna box out well and shield defenders from getting

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Speaker 1: to the football. But if you're looking for him to

425
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Speaker 1: be a big play, home run sort of guy like I,

426
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Speaker 1: I just don't think that's gonna happen. And if they're

427
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Speaker 1: in the red zone, it's gonna be Julius Thomas. Oh

428
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,959
Speaker 1: that isn't it. That is an additional thing to think

429
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 1: about now, A little wrinkle, yeah, because that's they didn't

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Speaker 1: have that last year. So all due respect to Adam

431
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Speaker 1: Rank and I and I hope he's uh. I hope

432
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Speaker 1: he and his family are doing well. Look, I am

433
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: terribly unimpressed with Blake Bortles. Terribly unimpressed with Blake Bortles.

434
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: The offensive line is still an absolute disaster, Francisco. But

435
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: you might have made the point of the podcast right there,

436
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: Julius Thomas now in Duval. I don't know. To me,

437
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: it may just eliminate Allen Robinson's fantasy value. Look, he

438
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: might be a good real life football player, but I

439
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Speaker 1: think I'm still not gonna draft him. I still think

440
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Speaker 1: I'd rather go with some other high upside guys in

441
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Speaker 1: rounds fifteen. Allen Robinson. Man, I just can't get behind him.

442
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Speaker 1: But man, all these all the praise that people are

443
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Speaker 1: heaping on him, and and and plus the you've got

444
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Speaker 1: to think about opportunity as well. And that's really what

445
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: made me kind of second guest myself, was the opportunity,

446
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: because you gotta figure, he's gonna be in the number

447
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Speaker 1: one wide receiver. Yes, so there's gonna be playing a

448
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Speaker 1: passes through on his way. Yes, you would think, well,

449
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: you know here, so you mentioned you mentioned Julius Thomas.

450
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Speaker 1: Another another wrinkle in this. They went on They draft

451
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Speaker 1: t J Yelden um to try and and boost a

452
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Speaker 1: running game that was, you know, unimpressive last year. I

453
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Speaker 1: mean they had, they had Denard Robinson, and I think

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Speaker 1: we saw it was another bus to move candidate. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think what we do, we see Storm

456
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Speaker 1: Johnson at some point. So if things go the way

457
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Speaker 1: the Jags hope, it's gonna be a heavy dose of

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Speaker 1: t J Yelden this year, probably take some of that

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Speaker 1: pressure off Blake Bortles. So there are a lot more

460
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Speaker 1: mouths to feed in that offense. I mean, you still

461
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Speaker 1: got to consider Alan Hearns. You still have to consider

462
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Speaker 1: Mark Easley if he can, if he can improve in

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Speaker 1: the off season. So it's I think I think Robinson

464
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Speaker 1: sees the bulk of the targets, but he's not gonna

465
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Speaker 1: be a guy who, you know, catches hundred passes this year.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna be happy not drafting any Jaguar.

467
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Speaker 1: That's I think you'll be fine. I think i'd be fine.

468
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Speaker 1: I think I'll be fine. I think I'll be fine. Um,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this last piece. And I maybe saved

470
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Speaker 1: the best for last year in this top headline here,

471
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Speaker 1: but a tweet from Nate Rick, who's a Brown's beat

472
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Speaker 1: reporter for the Acron Beacon Journal. Ulric reported that Brown's

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Speaker 1: O C. John di Filipo plans on using rookie running

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Speaker 1: back Duke Johnson as a part time receiver next year.

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Speaker 1: What does this do to his value? Because I gotta

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Speaker 1: think if he was a straight running back, I cannot

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Speaker 1: see myself drafting him. Yeah, he's not gonna be drafted

478
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Speaker 1: anywhere because there's such a log jam there at that position.

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Speaker 1: You think about Terence West, who they spent a third

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Speaker 1: round pick on. They're still invested in him. Isaiah crow

481
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Speaker 1: Well emerged as borderline starter last year, so he's there

482
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Speaker 1: as well. You gotta think Duke Johnson, even if he is,

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Speaker 1: let's just say he comes into camp, Let's say he

484
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Speaker 1: does these preseason games and he just looks amazing. I'll

485
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Speaker 1: tell you what. They're still gonna still mix in guys

486
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Speaker 1: like Terrence West and Isaiah crow Well, and that would

487
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Speaker 1: make me nervous. And there's still a mess at quarterback

488
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Speaker 1: man uh at wide receiver. By the way, they're number

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Speaker 1: one is an aging and ineffective Dwayne bow Their number

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Speaker 1: two wide receiver, Brian heartline. That's a problem. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's a problem if you're a Browns fan. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you're if you play in an opposing secondary, not so

493
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Speaker 1: much Josh McCown. Instead the statuesque Josh McCown stagging back there,

494
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Speaker 1: slaying the rock to Dwayne bow and Brian Hartline, which

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess when you say Duke Johnson's lining

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Speaker 1: up potentially as a wide receiver, I guess that's reason

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Speaker 1: to be hopeful. Maybe he gets on the field occasionally,

498
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Speaker 1: because yeah, I think we're all worried about that log

499
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Speaker 1: jam in the backfield. That was one of the things

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Speaker 1: I think made a lot of people scratch their heads

501
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Speaker 1: when the Browns drafted Duke Johnson in the first place.

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Speaker 1: And I liked him. I watched some of his game tape. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he can be really good. That's just not

504
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Speaker 1: a place for him to go and prosper as a

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Speaker 1: running back. There's too many guys there. So my my

506
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Speaker 1: thing with Duke is that, look, I think he is

507
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Speaker 1: uh And the point was made here because, um, when

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Speaker 1: we were doing draft coverage, I think I slammed the

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Speaker 1: pick from a fantasy perspect active and I still am

510
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Speaker 1: slamming the pick from a fantasy perspective, because um, Duke

511
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Speaker 1: Johnson talented player and and in my opinion, Duke Johnson

512
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Speaker 1: is the most talented running back they have on their roster.

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00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: Terence West not impressed, never have been too plotting, too slow,

514
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Speaker 1: not great lateral movement. Uh, he can move the pile

515
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Speaker 1: a little bit, but you know in the NFL, that's

516
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Speaker 1: that's not great work. Isaiah crow Well, I think he's

517
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Speaker 1: still acclimating himself to the NFL game. Remember he came

518
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Speaker 1: from a small school as well, a former five star

519
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Speaker 1: prospect from Georgia, but then got you know, kicked off

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Speaker 1: the team. YadA, YadA, YadA. Look, they're not invested in

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Speaker 1: crow Well. I get that, but they did spend a

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Speaker 1: third round pick in Terence West. And I would doubt

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Speaker 1: very seriously. I would doubt very seriously that after one

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Speaker 1: year they're gonna give up on Terence West. That being said,

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Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, let's say he's the best, Let's say he's one.

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Speaker 1: Let's say he's the number one in that offense. They're

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Speaker 1: still gonna mix in Terence West. They're still to mix

528
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Speaker 1: in near the goal line. Isaiah Kowll Duke Johnson and

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Speaker 1: again Duke Johnson. Again. I think he's the most talented

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Speaker 1: running back in the Brown's backfield, but he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the physical tools. He's not that big bodied guy. Uh

532
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 1: to to be an every down guy. Okay, now, just

533
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 1: to play Devil's advocate, do you change your opinion on

534
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Speaker 1: some of the Browns running backs and receivers if it's

535
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Speaker 1: Josh McCown versus let's say old Johnny Johnny f Football

536
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: has old Camp, how dare you bring up that name?

537
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if if Mr Manzel has himself

538
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: a good camp and finds himself in the starting job,

539
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean, does that change the way you look at

540
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Speaker 1: some of these Brown's guys? You know what it does

541
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. Obviously, none of those receivers going to

542
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Speaker 1: do anything for me at all. You can't imagine there

543
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: any of them are gonna be drafted. I can't imagine

544
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Speaker 1: any of those guys, except in the deepest of deepest leagues,

545
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Speaker 1: will even be on a roster next year. That being said,

546
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Speaker 1: Duke Johnson and if he can line up in the slot,

547
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Speaker 1: if he can be if they run a little Johnny football,

548
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Speaker 1: you know, razmatazz around in the backfield. Yeah, Duke Johnson

549
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: is your most explosive guy. So yeah, I think having

550
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Speaker 1: Johnny Football under center would change things a little bit

551
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: because maybe they run a little bit more read option,

552
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna run read option, you want to

553
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Speaker 1: have speed everywhere man, and Duke Johnson's clearly their fastest

554
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Speaker 1: running back, So yeah, I could see him getting on

555
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Speaker 1: the field more. Plus, even if they bring in Terence

556
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Speaker 1: West Isaiah Crow, Well, if they're putting Duke Johnson in

557
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: the slot and letting him run out there and kept

558
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: some passes out there, especially in the PPR league, Duke

559
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: Johnson's is an interesting prospect, no question. I really want

560
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Speaker 1: Duke Johnson to prosper I do. I just feel like

561
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: this is such a bad situation for him because a

562
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Speaker 1: fantasy proponacy respective question, right, Because I mean, he's he's

563
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a hard time playing at running back

564
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Speaker 1: on this team because as you mentioned crow L and

565
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: Wester there um and like I just look, I'm sure

566
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: he's a really talented athletic guy, but all of a sudden,

567
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Speaker 1: we're asking him now to try and work in at

568
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. I mean, this is just feeling it feels

569
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Speaker 1: too much of a gadget sort of thing. I will

570
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: say this though, man, you know, making the transition to

571
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Speaker 1: being a pass catcher. Um. Look, there's some very really

572
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: talented route runners out there, and I get that, but

573
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: football is the only professional sport in America where you

574
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: can play a completely other sport and come in and dominate.

575
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: Look at Julius Thomas, look at I mean all these

576
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: tight ends that come in there was a Hall of

577
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: Famer exactly, He's a converted small folk. Oh he was

578
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: bad from the free throw line to horrible, horrible. But

579
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Speaker 1: that being said, it's like, what other sports can you

580
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Speaker 1: do that? One other sports? Name me, one other sport

581
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: where you can transition. Is there a wide receiver that

582
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: could go and play baseball right now? No, there is not.

583
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Speaker 1: There's not a quarterback or a tight end or a

584
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: linebackers playing in the NFL that could play NBA basketball.

585
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm here, Joe Montana could hoop a little bit. I'm

586
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: sure he could. I'm sure he was nasty at the time.

587
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: School and people that Notre Dame, you know, Rector you

588
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: go play it in in the NBA. It's just a

589
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: different world. But it's different in the NFL because so

590
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: much of it is predicated on your physical attributes. How

591
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Speaker 1: big you are, how tall you are, how good your

592
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Speaker 1: hands are, how fast you are. Um, so yeah, I

593
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Speaker 1: think Duke Johnson. Actually, look, I haven't seen the guy practice.

594
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I would imagine if he really

595
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Speaker 1: puts his mind to it, maybe he probably he probably

596
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Speaker 1: can be a solid slot receiver for them. I mean, again,

597
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Speaker 1: he's not gonna be a downfield dude. I want to

598
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: imagine that. But yeah, I mean, if the guy's running

599
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Speaker 1: out routes and he catches a couple of balls and

600
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Speaker 1: and maybe they set up a couple of bubble screens

601
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Speaker 1: for him, Yeah, sure, what the hell? Why not I'll

602
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: take a flyer on the guy. I don't know what

603
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Speaker 1: round to take him in, depending on the preseason games.

604
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Speaker 1: Maybe I take him in the twelfth round because having

605
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: a valuable running back is so it's such a commodity.

606
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Speaker 1: And if west Or get hurt, that's the big key, Absolutely,

607
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: no question about it, no question about it. All Right,

608
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Speaker 1: those are your top headlines for to death. Think we're

609
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Speaker 1: lollygag you little bit on that, But that's okay. Let's

610
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Speaker 1: talk about sophomore running backs. Uh not rookie running back.

611
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Speaker 1: Sophomore running backs. Oh, by the way, Alex Gelhar, the

612
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Speaker 1: whiz kid from Wisconsin. I think MG mentioned he's he's

613
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Speaker 1: in Wisconsin's back home in Wisconsin. Michael Fabion with the

614
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer back east as well. So it's James

615
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Speaker 1: Co Marcus Grant in the Bay Area, Matt Franciscovich a

616
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Speaker 1: k a. The franchise. But you know, again the dudes

617
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: like seventeen years old and killing it for NFL dot com.

618
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: He's truly one of the talented young guns we got

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Speaker 1: here on the website. So happy to have him on

620
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: the podcast is very first podcast. Uh so excited for

621
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Speaker 1: him there as well. Uh you wrote speaking of oh wait,

622
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: hold on, we were gonna do uh sophomore running backs

623
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Speaker 1: before we get to your fantasy article here. But Charles Simms,

624
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Speaker 1: sophomore running back. What do we expect from Charles Sims?

625
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: I think you went to the job this year. Yeah.

626
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: I like him. I think he's the starter this year. Now,

627
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd hutch him, you know, I

628
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: don't know that I draft him. I mean, he's a

629
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Speaker 1: guy I'm keeping an eye out on the waiver wire,

630
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Speaker 1: you know if I need some help early in the season.

631
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Speaker 1: But you know, I think he leads that team in

632
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Speaker 1: touches with Bobby Rainey and maybe Doug Martin creeping in

633
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: there every so often. What is he what? What kind

634
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: of projections can we have for the guy? I mean,

635
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: it would eight hundred yards and five touchdowns be too much.

636
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love that. If we could talk about that,

637
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: I would probably draft him in like the twelfth round.

638
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's gonna be that much. He

639
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: wins the starting job, right, I mean, because it's it's

640
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: it's a similar situation when we talked about with the

641
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: Browns running backs. I know they're on this list, Crowell

642
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: and West. I think it's it's a similar type situation

643
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: that you know, they like Martin is still there, Doug Martin,

644
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: They like Charlie. I think they like Charles Simms, but

645
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's again physically that every down dude. Um.

646
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: But I will say this though, man, you know they've

647
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: got a huge upgraded quarterback Jameis Winston there now in Tampa.

648
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: They have a different quarter I mean in theory, he's

649
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: an upgrad I mean, we don't know, we don't know you. Yeah,

650
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston over josh m Account over Joshua? What about

651
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: what about poor Mike Glennon? How can we just learn

652
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: we're not gonna about Mike and Mike Glennon. I will

653
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: take Jamis Winston lastly over those two guys. That's a

654
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: huge to me. It's a huge upgrade. Um, But again

655
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: it's too much of a log jam there in the backfield.

656
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: Francis Kovic, I don't know, Charles Sam. Can you talk

657
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: me into into drafting him? Uh? Maybe in a PPR league. Um.

658
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: He's got good hands and I think that's why the

659
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: Bucks drafted him two years ago. But he missed a

660
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: lot of time last year with an injury, and I

661
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: think that might have hurt his stock. But there's new

662
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: new coach in Tampa Bay, and I think the former

663
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: coaching regime are the guys who drafted Doug Martin and

664
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: that's why he They kept putting him in there a

665
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: week after week, even though he wasn't doing anything. And

666
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: I think now that's you know, there's new regime there

667
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: by the way, real quick, Yes, last year's rushing leader

668
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay, you wish Doug Martin

669
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: four rushing Tochdowns too, dose too, So five and two

670
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: would be your leader of that would be your leader.

671
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: Bobby Rainy second four oh six and one? That was

672
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: that was it? Okay, so great? All right? Uh well

673
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: we shall move on. Trey Mason. Uh looked great at

674
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: times last year. Man, he looked amazing. I was super

675
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: excited about drafting him this year, and then the draft

676
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: had to go and happen. Todd Gurley goes it goes

677
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: in there, and you're expecting him to kind of maybe

678
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: supplant Trey Mason by week six. I think it's I

679
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: think it'd be fair to assume that, right, Yeah, I

680
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: mean because you expect he'll start Gurley will start the

681
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: year on the pup list, So let mean too will

682
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: miss probably the first month or so. All right. So

683
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: this is where the conversation gets interesting from a fantacy perspective,

684
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: because where do you take Trey Mason and where do

685
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: you take Todd Gurley? Um? I got Mason in a

686
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: mock draft in I think it was the tenth or

687
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: eleventh round. The funny thing is this girly is gonna

688
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: be drafted higher than Trey Mason, Yes, without a doubt,

689
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: without a doubt. And yet we play in a weekly

690
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: league where by week six you can be out of

691
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs. By week six, if you invest too heavily

692
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: in a guy like Todd Gurley, you could be in trouble.

693
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: Which is why I think for this year, I think

694
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: Gurley is a a great dynasty play when you know

695
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: you can have him for a few years. If you're

696
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: looking at the rookie running backs this year, Melvin Gordon,

697
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: I think, is a stronger, much stronger option than Todd Gurley.

698
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: Where's where's Girle going? Girly Eving is going? I think

699
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,479
Speaker 1: he's going somewhere around six, seventh round something like that.

700
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: That's too high for me. It is because you know

701
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna potentially be gone for the first month of

702
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: the season, and Mason is a Mason is a twelveth round.

703
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: I would love to take Trey Mason a twelfth round.

704
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: I would love to take Mason in the twelfth round.

705
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Mason again, I think he's gonna be

706
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: motivated the first six weeks of the season. Man, He's

707
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna say, you know what, forget this, I need to

708
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: take the reins. Right now, I've got six games to

709
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: prove myself and to basically say, no, Gurley, you're gonna

710
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: sit on the shelf for the year, and you get right,

711
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: you get a right, But this year it's my team.

712
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: Put it on my back, give me the rock and

713
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: let me run. You know. The worst case scenario though,

714
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: is that Tray Mason comes out, plays really well for

715
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: the first month or so, Todd Gurley comes back and

716
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: they say, let's just work committee and then committie. Then

717
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: you have the neither side has anything that the Todd

718
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: Gurley people and the Train Mason people. You're both sitting

719
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: there staring at each other like now we're both screwed

720
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: and that. But see what you just mentioned right there.

721
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: And because I do believe in Tray Mason, I think

722
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: he's a great running back. Um In again, I do

723
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: think he will be motivated the first six weeks of

724
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: the season to basically try to take the reins. It's

725
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: why I can't get myself to draft to Todd Gurley. Um,

726
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're talking eleven twelfth round, okay, of

727
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: course I do it. But his current asking price, even

728
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: if we were to drop two rounds. I can't get

729
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: myself to get on the Todd Gurley train because let's

730
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: say he comes back to me, there's at least I mean,

731
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: come on, there's at least a fifty percent chance. Maybe

732
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: it's maybe a seventy five percent chance he comes back

733
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: in week six and is immediately inserted into a committee situation.

734
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a different it's a different NFL now, right,

735
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: Like coaching staffs aren't. They're not married to a guy.

736
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: They're not saying, hey, a running backs gotta get his

737
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: thirty five carries, right, I could see them working gurly

738
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: and slowly. So his current asking price, man, it's awfully high.

739
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: It is awfully high. It is. But people love them,

740
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: and people love the potential. He's being drafted on his potential,

741
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: even with the even with him missing some time, you know, potentially.

742
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: I now, I think when we get closer to September

743
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: and we have a better idea of what Todd Gurley's

744
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: status is going to be, I think that's going to

745
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: impact where he gets drafted. Well, let's say he but

746
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: let's say he's healthy, but they still put him on

747
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: the puplist just in case. Um, I think he still drops.

748
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and because the idea of him

749
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: missing the first six weeks, you're talking about almost half

750
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: of your your fantasy race. That's what I'm saying. The

751
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: price is too rich for my blood. I don't know

752
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: if I can do that. I mean, unless what scenario,

753
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: Unless I'm unless on FABS and I go running back

754
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: for my first five, then you can say, then you

755
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: can take Todd Gurley. It's fine. You've got four other

756
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: guys there to, you know, help you out. That's what

757
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, that's what I'm saying. So to me,

758
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, And I'm telling I'm telling the

759
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: fantasy listeners out there, man, Todd Gurley's price to me

760
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: right now too high too. I can't get on board.

761
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: So then where would you take Trey Mason? Trey Mason

762
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: if he falls to in the eighth? Okay, I got

763
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: him in the ninth in a I love him in

764
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: the ninth. Got him in the ninth, love him in

765
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: the ninth and again because I know I'm getting a

766
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: starting running back. Who again, Let's say let's say you

767
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: take Todd Gurley out of the equation. Let's say Todd

768
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: Gurley wasn't in St. Louis. Where are you taking Tree Mason?

769
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: Mason's probably going in the sixth, fifth or sixth, maybe

770
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: even earlier. I think. I think if Todd Gurley is

771
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: not there, based off of what he did last year

772
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: in in limited, limited games, I see Trey Mason as

773
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: a third round running back. I could see that. I mean,

774
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would read, but I wouldn't.

775
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't laugh at somebody who took him in the third.

776
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: So you're getting a third round running back in the

777
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: ninth round for the first six games. I will take

778
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: that all day I will take that all day long.

779
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: And then you trade him away six when Gurley is

780
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: back on the field. Well, you know, be be a

781
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: forward thinking fantasy manage. Maybe you take this guy, he

782
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: blows up for two games, and then you trade him

783
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: away in week three. That's okay, all right, that's okay.

784
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 1: I still got great production out of a running back exactly.

785
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: I don't mind doing that. You know, people people get

786
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: too crazy on the draft. Look, fifty of your of

787
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: your league is probably one in the draft. Yes, but

788
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: you still gotta make trade wire waiver wire. All right,

789
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: let's move on we talked about Brown's running backs at depth.

790
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: We'll we'll skip off Jerick McKinnon. Uh. Anyone who knows me,

791
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: knows the show knows. I have a man crush on

792
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: Jerick mckinn for absolutely no reasons. Okay, he gets the

793
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: varsity Blues treatment down in Minnesota. You know, he's the

794
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: most effective running The guy only runs like I think

795
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: he ran like a four. He's got an amazing vertical

796
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: forty inches or something something crazy. He's a big body,

797
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: he's fast, he can jump me, he can do everything. No, well,

798
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: let's throw in Matt Asiata. Why are we doing that? Well,

799
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: this is my Jerk McKinnon take. On June three, I

800
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: loved Jerk McKinnon. He was a sleeper. I was all

801
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: about Jake McKinnon. On June fourth, Adrian Peterson showed him

802
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: that McKinnon was about it. You know, he has so

803
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: much talent, he's so good. But you know, generally the

804
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: guy sitting behind you know, a d don't play a

805
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: whole lot. All right, So I will say this though,

806
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: Jerk McKinnon clearly um in my opinion, if he's not drafted,

807
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: it's a mistake. You're gonna draft him because he's clearly,

808
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: clearly the most talented handcuff. I can't. I can't think

809
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: of a more talented handcuff situation in the NFL right now.

810
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: And maybe if something somebody tweeted at me. I'm sure

811
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, maybe Jamal Charles Nile Davis duo canial Is

812
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: is solid. I like Canial That's not bad with Sean McCoy,

813
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: Fred Jackson, No, No, I will, I will, I will

814
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: pass on the seventy five year old Fred freddy Man.

815
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: He's internal Fred Fred Jackson. I don't know who's who's

816
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: the backup in Philly. You got to Marco Nope, not

817
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: buying that, not buying that. No, No mark Ingram c J. Spiller, No,

818
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 1: not buying c J. Spiller's talk man. No way, No, Anyways,

819
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: I would have said last year, you know, you had

820
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: Frank Gore and Carlos High. Yeah. But it's like I said, so,

821
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: Jerick McKinnon to me, if he's not the best, the

822
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: most talented handcuff out there, he's certainly in the top

823
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: two or three. Jack McKinnon should be drafted in your league,

824
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: no matter what. So, now here's my question, where do

825
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: you take a guy like Jerick McKinnon knowing he's strictly

826
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: a handcuff, but the most talented handcuff out there. And

827
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: and we saw last year Marcus, guys like Carlos Hide

828
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: were being drafted crazy high. We saw we saw Carlos

829
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: Hide going nine tenth round, insane. Everybody was big on

830
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Il Guapo. Right, Um, where do you take a guy

831
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: like Jerick McKinnon. I well, because you can wait, because

832
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna think to take Jerk McKinnon. I think you

833
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: can wait until the tenth, eleventh round and get him

834
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: because nobody's gonna think of everyone's gonna be like, well,

835
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: it's Adrian Peterson and he's gonn get you know, seven

836
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: carries this year, there's not to be any room left.

837
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: You guys have been doing mock drafts. Where are you

838
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 1: seeing Jerick McKinnon being taken? I'm not, Oh you're not.

839
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm not listening to my voice. What is wrong with you? Draft?

840
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: If you have the fifteenth round pick, don't draft the

841
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: kicker or the defense. Draft Jerick McKinnon. And if I'm

842
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: if I get Adrian Peterson, I'm reaching for McKinnon a

843
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: little higher. So so that's what I'm so, I guess

844
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: that's the point I'm making. If you're in a if

845
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: you're in a UM. Look, if you're in a casual league,

846
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: you don't even care about handcuffs because literally all the

847
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: handcuffs are still out in the waiver wire. Because casual

848
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: leagues they don't care, they don't know that they'd rather

849
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: draft a guy like Greg Jennings, uh and aging and

850
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: ineffective Greg Jennings and drafted an appropriate handcuff. But if

851
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: you're playing in a in a veteran league, if you're

852
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: playing a competitive league, if you're playing an experts league,

853
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: there's there's no way Jerick McKinnon is going to be

854
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: sitting out there by the time you get to round sixteen.

855
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: So so I guess this is for the seasoned veteran

856
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: fantasy players. And let's be honest here, man, if you're

857
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: a casual fan, you ain't listening to us. Man, you

858
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: can't listening to this body should be, but you should

859
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: should be. That's a great point. You should. But if

860
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: you're if you're a season vet and you're playing fans,

861
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: this is like your tenth year playing fantasy, and you

862
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: want to win your league. You know your leagues are

863
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: one and lost via injuries. And if you're an Adrian

864
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: Peterson owner in an experts league, you're looking at Jerick McKinnon, Man,

865
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: where are you taking? Let you know what, forget it.

866
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: Let's say you got Adrian Peterson, you got the number

867
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: one overall pick, number two overall pick, and you got

868
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. If you are an Adrian Peterson owner, where

869
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: do you take Jerick McKinnon Maybe a better question. I'll

870
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: let you out of that. I'm sure unshoring shoring him

871
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: up like I don't know, earlier, earlier, earlier. I do

872
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: think if you have Adrian Peters and there's that years

873
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: that somebody's gonna come and snake him from you, especially

874
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: if you're in a league full of people that are

875
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: you know that that are pretty experienced. That's what I'm saying.

876
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna come and snake him from you. So you

877
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: almost do have to reach a little for him. So

878
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm reaching. I don't care. I think eighth round is

879
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: a little too rich for my blood. I think there's

880
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: still some you know, excellent players in the eighth round. Imagine,

881
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: you know, like like guys like de Sean Jackson, their

882
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: their values all over the place. You might even see

883
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: it de Sean Jackson the eighth round. Yeah, no, I

884
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't be surprised at all to say at all,

885
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: because at all part of it is that offense. Part

886
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: of it is the quarterback, right, So that's possible. So

887
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: if you're looking at I understand his fear. Yes, I

888
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: totally agree. As far as running backs in the eighth round,

889
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: you're looking at like La Garrett Blunt and uh, you

890
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: know guys like that. So if I'm an Adrian Peterson

891
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: owner and I'm looking at La Garrett Blunt or handcuffing Peterson,

892
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: yeah you did, I'm grabbing McKinnon. Would you agree with

893
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: that STRATEGI MG, I would, you know, just just because

894
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: you would love to have that hand because there's there's

895
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: nothing worse than somebody else not to takes your handcuff

896
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: and then they like they offer you your handcuff, you know,

897
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: like and then they want like, you know, I'll take

898
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. No, yeah you won't. I hear you. You know,

899
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: what's your starting wide receiver for a handful of beans?

900
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: You know? I think I think it's I think it's

901
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. You know, if you have a

902
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: Jumal Charles, where do you handcuff? Where do you take

903
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: the Nile David's handcuff? Right? Uh see? And I was

904
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: one who gets carries and can be productive. I mean

905
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs work him in, So I think I think

906
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: Nile is another one you probably reach four in like

907
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: the eighth or ninth round. Charles is a little more

908
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: injury prone. His injury prone and just the Andy Reid

909
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: seems to forget that he's on the roster sometimes, yes, yes,

910
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: he does. Last one here for you. DeVante Freeman to me,

911
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: I know he's I think he's currently being listed at

912
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: the starter. But I know how you feel about seven Coleman.

913
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: I know how you feel about seven Colson. I laugh.

914
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: I laugh when I see Devonte Freeman listened as a starter.

915
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: Get out of here with that, Get out of here

916
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: with the there's a zero percent chance Devonte Freeman has

917
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: more touch just then Tevin Coleman come season start. I

918
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: laugh at that. So was it Devonte Freeman and Trademas

919
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: And they played each other against each other in the

920
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: National Championship Game round. You're right, I forgot about that

921
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: and that that Auburn Florida State games. Yea, I feel

922
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: like they should just get on the phone with each other.

923
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: You know, they're like, man, we're both gonna be starters

924
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: this year, and the draft had to happen. You know.

925
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: Now we're both you know, fighting for backup jobs. They

926
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: both need bro hugs, they do. They both in very

927
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: similar situations. Um, alright, So Devonte Freeman again, I know

928
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: he's listened to Star. Where where do you take DeVonta Freeman?

929
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: Knowing Tevin Coleman somewhere lurking in there? Um? Is he

930
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: Is he even a draftable commodity? I think he is.

931
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm avoiding him. I don't like him at any price

932
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: round Yeah, maybe that way, just to I still have

933
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: some hope now, mind you. I'm also the guy who

934
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, kept pumping up jacka was Rogers for a

935
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: couple of years after that ship had had apparently sailed.

936
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: So I like Jock Quitz first of all, Um, I

937
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: did too, But apparently the Falcons didn't like John Quiz.

938
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: That was the problem. Um. And so I feel like, Okay,

939
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm barking up that same tree again, but

940
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: I still think there's some value there with DeVonta Freeman,

941
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: and he's like maybe a tenth round guy you put

942
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: him in. There's the occasional matchup flex or something like that.

943
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just holding out for I don't know. Maybe

944
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: I am like, that's fine, I'll be that dude. Look,

945
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: I I'm with the Bay Area on this one. Man.

946
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say DeVonta Freeman not draftable even in the

947
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: fifteenth round. Just I'd rather take a second defense. I'd

948
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: rather I'd rather take a second defense then take DeVante

949
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: hate hate hate hate hate. I'm like Silkie Johnson. The

950
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: year I am Silkie Johnson up in this month. Now,

951
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: I just can't do it, man, I can't see myself

952
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: taking DeVonta Freeman knowing Tevin Coleman is lurking there, especially

953
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: in that one cut system. Holy cal I'm telling you,

954
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman is one of the reasons why I am

955
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: adopting this year a no running back in the first

956
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: You're going zero RBS, zero RB strategy early. Wow. Tevin

957
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 1: Coleman is one of the reasons why. Because I can

958
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: take Tevin Coleman in the in the sixth, seventh round,

959
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm happy with that. Man. I'm extremely happy

960
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: with that. I always trying to be the zero RB

961
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: guy and then like the third round comes around and

962
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: I'm like I need un back, like I freaked out,

963
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: and then like I go grab somebody, Like all right, listen,

964
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: let's uh, we're gonna let's talk about draft strategies here.

965
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: But before we get to that. Um, Matt, Yeah, FRANCISCOVICI,

966
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: you you wrote a great photo journal photo essay rather

967
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: uh for the dot com side NFL dot com slash fantasy.

968
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: Uh it's called your Father's Fantasy Team. Do you want

969
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: to break out with this? What what this photo essay

970
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: is all about? And all all the people who love

971
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: old school football will love this. Yeah. It was just

972
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: something to have fun with for Father's Day. Um. I

973
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: just kinda went through some some record holders, some old

974
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: school guys. If fantasy was around in the forties, fifties, sixties,

975
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: your dad might have drafted, um, guys who had consistently

976
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: good seasons year I saw, I saw lance all. In

977
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: some cases the guys your grandfather might have grandfather Yeah,

978
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: Dickerson was on that list. I think the oldest oldest

979
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: guy on their aff is Don Hudson of the Packers.

980
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: I don't even know who that was. He was, like,

981
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: you know, the original Jerry Rice. I mean, dude was

982
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: a baller's amazing. France Harkington on that list as well.

983
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: It's it's fun to see if you're if you're in

984
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: historical football, it's fun to see some of the stats. Uh,

985
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: these these guys have put up because you know, we

986
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: know names like Lance all Worth, but we don't know

987
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: what their production look like back then versus what it

988
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: looks like now, you know what I'm saying. So a

989
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: lot of these guys did put up modern day stats

990
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: back then in the sex sixties and seventy. It's funny.

991
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: We actually are building, uh you know, we're kind of

992
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: going through and we had the research team compile stats

993
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: for the skill position guys starting in nineteen sixty going

994
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: through today. And I'm going through and like doing formulas

995
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: and putting fantasy numbers attached to them and stuff. It's

996
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: kind of wild to go back and see in the

997
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: sixties where you're leading fantasy quarterback had like a hundred

998
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:17,959
Speaker 1: and seventy points for the season, Aaron Rodgers Andrew Lucker

999
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: scoring that by week seven. You know, it's crazy. Yeah,

1000
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: it's insane. It's absolutely insane, but it's a it's a

1001
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: great photo essay. Um. Again, if you're into historical football, um,

1002
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: and just you know, if you want to get acclimated

1003
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: to the game, even if you're new to football, it's

1004
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: it's great to know what some of these guys like

1005
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: Jim Brown Walter Payton have done, uh in terms of

1006
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 1: in terms of career numbers. It's just fun to see.

1007
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: And especially with the advent of YouTube, you can see

1008
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: Jim Brown highlights. Now you know, they're incredible, Okay, Walter

1009
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: Payton highlights. It's amazing what these guys can do. So yeah,

1010
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: I mean, look, if you want to, if you want

1011
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: to kill two hours, go through the photo essay. Matt

1012
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: Franciscovic did a great job putting it all together. And

1013
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: again you use that, use YouTube and I'll tell you what, man,

1014
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: there there are some awesome, awesome highlights out there, and

1015
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: you should and you get a deeper appreciation of what

1016
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: these guys are doing in the modern day. But when

1017
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: when I saw the article your Father's Fantasy Team, it

1018
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: it reminded me of like draft strategies and how they

1019
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 1: you know, again, they're slowly, very slowly evolving here. Your

1020
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: father's fantasy team is a hell of all. It looks

1021
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: a hell of a lot like Michael Fabriano's running back,

1022
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: running back, you know, wide receiver, running back, running back,

1023
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight end, quarterback in the eighth or ninth round.

1024
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: That's your father's fantasy team. And and again, from a

1025
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: historical point of view, that strategy works pretty darn well.

1026
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: Ye I am not of the historical I'm going. I'm

1027
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: going full bore, man. I'm telling you I'm going. I'm

1028
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: gonna go quarterback in the first round. If I have

1029
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,479
Speaker 1: the number five overall pick. And we were talking about

1030
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: this in our first podcasts. If you've got that number

1031
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: five overall pick, are you okay? Are you comfortable taking

1032
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck Aaron Rodgers? And of our four man panel,

1033
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: I was the only person that said, oh, I was

1034
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: Steve Boston. I said, oh, hell yeah, I will take

1035
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. I will take Aaron Rodgers number five overall. Yeah.

1036
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: I told you I would do it two picks later

1037
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: at seventh, but not at five. I was not willing to.

1038
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: I was like, put my toes on the line, but

1039
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't cross in the live so I guess we

1040
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: got the we got the the Bay Area. It's his

1041
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: first podcast. Bro, tell me your fantasy strategy this year,

1042
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: your draft strategy. Are are you going R B R B?

1043
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: What are you doing? No, I'm I'm going you're of

1044
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: the new school. Yeah, I didn't mock this morning. Ninth

1045
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: overall pick solid. I went Antonio Brown first, and I

1046
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: got Julio Jones on the way back wide receiver. And

1047
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: then end of the third round, I got Justin or Set,

1048
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: which I'm satisfied. Wow. And the third that's pretty good. Yeah,

1049
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: he's lasting till yeah, late third, early fourth R I

1050
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: think people wouldn't And I look, I get this. I'm

1051
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: the fantasy skeptic, like I want to see you have

1052
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: a good year. I do it again. So I understand that.

1053
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: I I get people are kind of like, all right,

1054
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: I was nice, it's nice. Do it again? Yeah, exactly.

1055
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: All right? So what are you so? What are you doing?

1056
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: Are you advocate if you're late in the first are

1057
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: you advocating a no RB strategy? Yes? What about if

1058
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: you're earlier, let's say mid let's say fifth, fifth pick

1059
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: overall the I'm going one of those elite running back.

1060
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: You're still going running back? How high are you going?

1061
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck six? Seven? I'm not I'm not well. First

1062
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: of all, let's answer this question. I don't luck at Rodgers,

1063
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: luck at Rogers, Rogers, Rogers. Okay, so how high are

1064
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: you taking Rogers? Seven? Eight, eight or nine? Maybe nine?

1065
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: I'd rather get I'd rather get a wide receiver. You're

1066
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: a new school and yet you're still going to old school.

1067
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: You know somethings, some things are just tried and true.

1068
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: I hear you. It's some things the old ways are best. Man.

1069
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: Give me, give me the top, give me the top

1070
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: running backs. Here, the top, the top running back. Yeah,

1071
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you whether or not I like them.

1072
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: Lacy No Peterson, Yes, Levi Bell I love him. Marshawn Lynch,

1073
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: J Charles Yeah, okay, yes, a Foster new I took.

1074
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: I took Aaron Foster. It's seven overall today, I don't know.

1075
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: Maybe go like you know, like I had people in

1076
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: my ear like, well, you know, so I don't know.

1077
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: Even has somebody talk to me not drafting Arian hundred

1078
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: percent guaranteed, I'm not drafting Arian Foster. I would go

1079
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: I'd rather go wide receiver. There, I think he went, Yeah,

1080
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: he went seventh in this. So here's that. I'm not

1081
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: in love with Eddie Lacey. I've written about it extensively.

1082
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: I think that a Lacy's you know, he's got that

1083
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: very upright running style. He reminds me a hell of

1084
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 1: a lot of Brandy Jacobs. I'm I'm really worried uh

1085
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: that in a in a physical division like he's in, um,

1086
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, injuries become a concern for me. And again,

1087
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 1: it's not like this guy was just gangbusters all year.

1088
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: Last year, first three or four weeks of the season,

1089
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: this guy had a disappearing act. So I'm not really

1090
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: comfortable taking Eddie Lacey with the top three pick. So

1091
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: now that being said, now who where am I going?

1092
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: I like Levian Bell. I like Adrian Peterson one to

1093
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: Jamal Charles number three. Now after that, even even even

1094
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: a three game suspension, you'd still take Levian Bell at

1095
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: the two spot. Yeah, it makes it. I mean, you

1096
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: know what, let me take Levian Bell number Three'll take

1097
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: Levian Bell three, number four, I'll take Marshawn Lynch like

1098
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: I said, number five, here right, go, let's do it. Oh,

1099
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 1: we're going all out. Andrew Luck or Aaron Rodgers. All depends,

1100
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: but hey, you know what I'm getting the queue from

1101
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: from a man t d behind the glass branded behind

1102
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: the glasses well helping us out here. By the way,

1103
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: Marshawn went, Man, I gotta give a shout because he

1104
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: was on the Warrior float. As a lifelong Warriors fan,

1105
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: I can give a shot out to my guys. Oh,

1106
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: Oakland's finest bat came back to the town for the parade.

1107
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: Here and Draymond were faded on the US party. It

1108
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: was great. You know, he hugged He hugged Marshawn, He

1109
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: hugged the Draymond's bomb in an interview. You know, I'm

1110
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: sure Draymond Green is probably like either still drunk or

1111
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: he's just getting a hangover right now. I like it was.

1112
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: It was party on, but I'm so had I never

1113
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: thought in my life time i'd see a Warrior Champions

1114
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: that fired up. That is the a area right, representing

1115
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: and speaking of the area. How about Matt Francisco Vitch,

1116
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: what has that been? Joining the podcast and then get

1117
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: us out of here. Man, Hey, listen, I'm James co Uh.

1118
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: You've been listening to the NFL Fantasy Live podcast. With

1119
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: Marcus Grant and Matt Francisco Vitch. Go to nfl dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Fantasy right now to draft right now. We'll

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