1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Day 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. They invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: to cost Am, employees of premier networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi, 13 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so 17 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Back in 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, a billionaire aerospace engineer named Robert Bigelow 19 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 3: did something that shook up the scientific community. He created 20 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: a global contest. He wasn't looking for new rocket designs 21 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: or space station blueprints. He was looking for something even 22 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: more elusive. He put up one point eight million dollars 23 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: in prize money and challenged the world's best scientists, doctors, 24 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: and researchers to answer one specific question, what is the 25 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: best available evidence for the survival of human consciousness after 26 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: permanent bodily death. He wanted proof, not faith, not philosophy, 27 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: but evidence that could stand up in a court of 28 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: law beyond a reasonable doubt. You might remember back in 29 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: episode two hundred and forty four I introduced you to 30 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 3: the first prize winner of that contest, doctor Jeffrey Mishlev. 31 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: He gave us a brilliant overview of the history of parapsychology. 32 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: But today I want to take you to the second 33 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: prize winner, and honestly, his evidence hits a little harder 34 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: for many of us because it doesn't come from history books. 35 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: It comes from the emergency room. The second prize of 36 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: the Bigelow Contest one two. Doctor Pym van Lommel. Doctor 37 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: van Lommel is a cardiologist from the Netherlands. For decades 38 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: he worked in the trenches of modern medicine, fighting to 39 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 3: save lives in the coronary care unit. His laboratory wasn't 40 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: a library, it was the resuscitation room, where the line 41 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: between life and death is drawn in seconds. His winning 42 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: essay is titled The Continuity of Consciousness, and today we're 43 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: going to tear it apart and look at the incredible 44 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: evidence he compiled. On this episode, we're going to explore 45 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: some truly incredible stories. We'll talk about fighter pilots and 46 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: why their blackouts prove that near death experiences are not 47 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: just hallucinations. We're going to hear the medical impossibility of 48 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: a three year old girl who had half of her 49 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 3: brain removed yet somehow regained full function, proving the mind 50 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: is much greater than the organ. We're going to discuss 51 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: shared death experiences, where a healthy person standing at a 52 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: bedside actually joins the dying person on their journey into 53 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: the light. And we're going to look at DNA not 54 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: just as a biological blueprint, but as a potential antenna 55 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: that receives your soul. But first we have to start 56 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: where doctor van Lommel started, and surprisingly he did not 57 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: start as a believer, started exactly where most doctors do, 58 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: and maybe where you and I started as a skeptic. 59 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: It was nineteen sixty nine. He was a young doctor 60 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: just starting his cardiology training. In the coronary care unit, 61 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: a patient suffered a massive heart attack and went into 62 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: cardiac arrest. The alarm sounded, Doctor van Lammel and his 63 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: team rushed in. They administered two electric shocks for four 64 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: long minutes. This patient was clinically dead. He had no 65 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: heartbeat and he wasn't breathing. His brain activity had ceased. 66 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: Then finally they got a rhythm. The monitor started beeping 67 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: again and the patient regained consciousness. The medical team was relieved. 68 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: They were high fiving each other. They had saved life. 69 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: This was a huge victory. But the patient he wasn't happy. 70 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: In fact, he was extremely disappointed. He looked at the 71 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: young doctor Van Lammel and told him that during those 72 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: four minutes of death, while the doctors were panicking, he 73 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 3: had been in a place of incredible beauty. He spoke 74 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 3: of a tunnel. He spoke of colors that he had 75 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: never seen on earth. He spoke of a light that 76 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: was alive, and of music that filled him with peace. 77 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 3: He was actually angry that they had pulled him back 78 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: from this paradise. And brought him back in a broken 79 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: and very painful body. At that time, in nineteen sixty nine, 80 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: the term near death experience didn't yet exist. Doctor van 81 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: Lommel had been taught in medical school that consciousness is 82 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 3: a product of the brain. When the heart stops, the 83 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: blood stops. When the blood stops, the brain stops, and 84 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: when the brain stops, you stop. It is medically impossible 85 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: to have a complex lucid memory from a moment when 86 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: the brain is offline. And yet here was this man 87 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: reporting exactly that. That first moment planted a seed of 88 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: curiosity in doctor van Lommel that would eventually lead to 89 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: one of the most famous prospective studies in medical history. 90 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: He realized that if he wanted to understand this, he 91 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: couldn't just rely on whispers and rumors. He needed hard data, 92 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: So in nineteen eighty eight he launched a massive study 93 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: across ten Dutch hospitals. They didn't just wait for people 94 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: to come forward with interesting stories. They interviewed every single 95 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: person who survived a cardiac arrest within a few days 96 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: of their resuscitation. They found that eighteen percent of these survivors, 97 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: people who had been clinically dead, reported a near death experience. 98 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: Now I know what skeptics say, and I used to 99 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: say this myself. Oh, that's probably just a hallucination. It's 100 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: just the brain firing off random neurons as it runs 101 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: out of oxygen. They call it anoxia, they say. The 102 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: skeptics say that is the tunnel is just the eye 103 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: shutting down, and the lights are just random sparks. But 104 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: in his essay, doctor Van Lommel destroys that argument with 105 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: a brilliant comparison. He compares these cardiac patients to fighter 106 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: jet pilots. Think about it. When fighter pilots are in 107 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: a centrifuge training for high gravity, or when they pull 108 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: a high G maneuver in the sky, the blood drains 109 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: from their brains, they lose consciousness. It's called g lock 110 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: G force induced loss of consciousness. Their brains are starved 111 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: of oxygen, just like a cardiac arrest patient. So if 112 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: oxygen deprivation causes NDEs, then every pilot who blacks out 113 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: should meet their grandmother and see the light, right, But 114 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: of course they don't. Doctor Van Lommel points out that 115 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: pilots report tunnel vision sometimes, but it's just their vision narrowing. 116 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: They report confusion They report fragmented, random images, but they 117 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: never ever report a life review. They never ever report 118 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: meeting deceased relatives, They never report a feeling of unconditional 119 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: love or coming home, and they certainly don't come back transformed, 120 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,359 Speaker 3: wanting to change their lives and love everyone. If NDEs 121 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: or just a dying brain glitch caused by low oxygen. 122 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: Every pilot fainting in a centrifuge and every heart attack 123 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: survivor should have one, but they don't. Only eighteen percent 124 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: of cardiac survivors do, and the ones that do report 125 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: experiences that are hyper real, structured, and life changing. This 126 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 3: proves that the near death experience is not a hallucination 127 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: of a dying brain. It's something else entirely, and the 128 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: strongest evidence for that it comes from when patients see 129 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: things they simply cannot see with their human eyes. This 130 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: brings us to a famous case in doctor Van Lommel's research. 131 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: It's the story of the dentures Man. It happened during 132 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: a night shift at a hospital in the Netherlands. An 133 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 3: ambulance rushed in with a forty four year old man 134 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: who had been found comatose in a meadow. He had 135 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 3: suffered a massive cardiac arrest. When he arrived, he was blue, 136 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,359 Speaker 3: he wasn't breathing, he was cold. For all intents and purposes, 137 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: he was dead. The medical team rushed to put a 138 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: tube down his throat so a machine could breathe for him, 139 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: but when they tried to put the scope in his mouth, 140 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: they hit an obstruction. This man had a full set 141 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: of upper dentures. A nurse quickly reached in removed his dentures, 142 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: and in the chaos of saving his life, she put 143 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: them on the crash cart. The crash cart is that 144 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: rolling medical cabinet full of emergency medications and defibrillators. This 145 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: nurse specifically remembers putting the teeth on a cart that 146 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: had all these bottles on it and a sliding drawer underneath. 147 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: They worked on this man for an hour and a half. 148 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: Finally they got a heartbeat, but he didn't wake up. 149 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: He remained in a deep coma on a respirator for 150 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: more than a week. On week number two, that same 151 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: nurse was walking through the cardiac ward passing out medication. 152 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: The patient was finally awake. The moment he saw her, 153 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: he pointed a shaking finger and said, oh, that nurse 154 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: knows where my dentures are. The nurse was stunned. She 155 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: had only seen him once, and he was a blue, 156 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: lifeless body being pounded on by the doctors. But the 157 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: man continued. He looked at her and said, you were 158 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: there when I was brought into the hospital. You took 159 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: my dentures out of my mouth and put them onto 160 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: that cart. It had all these bottles on it, and 161 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: there was this sliding drawer underneath, and there you put 162 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 3: my teeth medically. This man was unconscious, his eyes were closed, 163 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: his brain was starved of oxygen. He should have had 164 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: zero awareness. Of course, he didn't make a lucky guess. 165 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 3: He described the nurse and the specific cart and the 166 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: sliding drawer. He even told them later that he had 167 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: seen himself lying in the bed. He watched the doctors 168 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: and the nurses working on his body from up above. 169 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: He saw the panic, He saw the whole procedure. He 170 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: saw where his teeth went. Doctor Van Lommel argues that 171 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: this case and many others like it, proves that consciousness 172 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: is what they call non local. It's not locked inside 173 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: our skull. He uses the analogy of a television or 174 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 3: a computer. Think about the Internet. The Internet isn't inside 175 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: your laptop. Your laptop is just the receiver. It receives 176 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: the signal from the cloud. You smash your laptop, the 177 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: Internet doesn't disappear. The signal is still there. You just 178 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: can't access it with that device anymore. Your brain is 179 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: the laptop. Your consciousness is the signal. When the brain 180 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: flatlines when the computer breaks during a heart attack, The 181 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: signal doesn't die. In fact, Doctor van Lommel argues that 182 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 3: the signal might even become clearer because the filter of 183 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: the brain is gone. You are no longer limited by 184 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: the biological machine. You are free. But if our consciousness 185 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 3: is not in the brain, where is it and what 186 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: does that mean for our physical bodies. Doctor Van Lommel 187 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: has some theories about how our very cells, our DNA 188 00:12:55,640 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: might act as antennas for our souls. 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Hey, 205 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: this is George if Nori and you're listening to the 206 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio and Coasta Ghost Day and Paranorial Podcast Network. 207 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. 208 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: Now let's get back to more with Sandra. 209 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. 210 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: In the last segment, we looked at the dentures Man 211 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: and the Blue Man, stories that prove that consciousness can 212 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: exist when the heart has stopped and the brain is flatlined. 213 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: Doctor Pym van Lammels Bigelow's second prize winning essay presents 214 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: cases where the brain is not just quiet, but physically incapacitated. 215 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: We're even missing. Here is an example of a three 216 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: year old girl. This little girl suffered from a severe 217 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: chronic inflammation of the brain called encephalitis. It was causing 218 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: intractable epilepsy, meaning seizures that wouldn't stop. The doctors had 219 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: no choice to save her life. They had to perform 220 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: a radical surgery, and they removed the entire left hemisphere 221 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: of her brain. Now, in a normal adult, the left 222 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: hemisphere controls our language, logic, and the movement of the 223 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: right side of the body. If you took out the 224 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: left half of an adult's brain, the results would be catastrophic. 225 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: They would likely be paralyzed on the right side, unable 226 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: to speak and unable to understand language. But let's look 227 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: at this little girl. Doctor van Lammel reports that a 228 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: year after her operation, the child showed almost no symptoms. 229 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: She was running, she was jumping, and most incredibly, she 230 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: was fluent in two languages. How is that possible. The 231 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: part of the machine that produces language was thrown in 232 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: the medical waste bin. It was gone, and yet the 233 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: function remained. Doctor Van Lammel uses this as proof of 234 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: something we now call neuroplasticity, but he takes it one 235 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: step further. He argues that if the brain were the 236 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: producer of the mind, removing half of the factory should 237 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: reduce the production by fifty percent. But it didn't. The mind, 238 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: the consciousness of that little girl was whole. It simply 239 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: found a new way to use the remaining hardware. It 240 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: proves that the self is not the organ called the brain. 241 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: He also points to cases where the brain is chemically silenced, 242 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: like under general anesthesia. We assume that when we go 243 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: under for surgery, we are gone, the lights are out, 244 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: nobody's home. But doctor van Lommel shares a story that'll 245 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: make us think twice about what we say around a 246 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: sleeping patient. A patient was undergoing surgery. They were fully anesthesized, 247 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: but suddenly they found themselves hovering above the operating table. 248 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: They were looking down at their own body. They could 249 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: see the lamp, they could see the doctors, and they 250 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: heard someone say something very specific. They heard a surgeon 251 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: shout and my apologies for saying this, hurry up, you 252 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: bloody bastard. Later, when the patient woke up, they confronted 253 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: the doctor. They repeated the words back to him. The 254 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 3: doctor was shocked. He confirmed he had said that about him. 255 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: But here's the kicker. The patient said, I didn't just 256 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: hear you talk, I could read the minds of everybody 257 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: in the room. This suggests that when we are free 258 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: of the body, our communication isn't just hearing sound waves, 259 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 3: it is direct mind to mind connection. We my friends, 260 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: become telepathic. This idea of telepathy and connection leads us 261 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: to a beautiful and emotional type of evidence. Doctor van 262 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 3: Lommel discuss the shared death experience. Usually we think of 263 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 3: near death experiences as something that happens only to the 264 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: dying person, but sometimes a healthy person sitting at the 265 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: bedside gets to go along for the ride. Doctor van 266 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: Lommel shares the story of a man who was at 267 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 3: the hospital bedside of his girlfriend's young son. The boy 268 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: was just seven years old. He had been in a 269 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: terrible accident and had severe head trauma. His brain was destroyed. Now, 270 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: tragedy upon tragedy the boy's mother, this man's girlfriend, Anne, 271 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: had died in the same accident just five days earlier. 272 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: So here's this man standing by the bedside of a 273 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: dying seven year old boy, mourning the loss of his 274 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: girlfriend and worried about the boy. The room is filled 275 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: with crying relatives. The moment the boy died, the moment 276 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: the EEG flatline, and something miraculous happened. This man said, 277 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: I saw that his mother came to collect him, and 278 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: she had died five days earlier. But there was this incredible, 279 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: beautiful reunion. But he didn't just watch. He was invited in, 280 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: he said. At one point they reached out for me 281 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: and included me in their embrace. This was an indescribable, 282 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: ecstatic reunion. Part of me left my body and accompanied 283 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: them into the light. Imagine that he is physically standing 284 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: in a hospital room, fully healthy, but his consciousness detaches. 285 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: He joins his deceased girlfriend and her dying son. He 286 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 3: travels with them toward the light. He feels the love, 287 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: he feels the glow of happiness. Then he reached a 288 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: point where he knew he couldn't go any further. He 289 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: fell back, he said, into his body. He suddenly became 290 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: aware of the hospital room again, and he realized something awkward. 291 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 3: Everyone else in the room was crying, devastated by the 292 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 3: boy's death, but he had a huge smile on his face. 293 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: He had to cover his face with his hands because 294 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 3: he didn't want to seem disrespectful. He was glowing with 295 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: joy inside because he knew that the boy wasn't dead, 296 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: that he was with his mother, that they were safe, 297 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: and that they were together. Doctor van Lommel includes this 298 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: story because it defies the medical explanation of a dying brain. 299 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: This man's brain wasn't dying, It wasn't lacking oxygen, he 300 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: wasn't on any drugs. He was a healthy observer who 301 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 3: was pulled into the consciousness field of the dying. It 302 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: proves that this field of love and light is real 303 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: and it is accessible. It proves that when we die, 304 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: we are all met, we are collected. So we have 305 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: a girl functioning with half a brain, we have a 306 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 3: patient hearing doctors while under anesthesia, and we have a 307 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 3: healthy man joining in on a deathbed journey. All of 308 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 3: these stories point to one conclusion. Consciousness is not a 309 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: side effect of biology. It is fundamental. It is primary. 310 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 3: But if consciousness is primary, how does it interact with 311 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: our physical world? How does a thought change a cell? 312 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: Doctor Van Lommel believes the answer lies in the strange 313 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 3: world of quantum physics and the hidden power of our DNA. 314 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: To understand this, we have to look at what doctor 315 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: van Lommel calls the interface. In his essay, he argues 316 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 3: that we need to stop thinking of the brain as 317 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 3: a hard drive that stores our memories. Instead, we need 318 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: to think of the brain and by extension, our DNA 319 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: as a transceiver. It is a transmitter and a receiver. Again, 320 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: think about the cloud. When you access a website or 321 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 3: a photo on your phone. That photo isn't physically inside 322 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: your phone's microchips. It is stored in the cloud. Your 323 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 3: phone is just the interface that pulls it down so 324 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: that you can see it. Doctor van Lommel says our 325 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: bodies work the same way. Your self, your memories, your personality, 326 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: they are all stored in the cloud of our non 327 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: local consciousness. Your brain and your DNA are the antenna 328 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: that pulls that signal down into our three dimensions. This 329 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: explains why when the brain is damaged or flatlined, the 330 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: cloud doesn't disappear. The signal is still there, the device 331 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: just can't display it anymore. And doctor van Lommel says 332 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: this isn't just a one way street. The signal doesn't 333 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: just play through the body. The signal can actually change 334 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: the body. He points to the science of neuroplasticity. For 335 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 3: a long time scientists believed the brain was fixed, that 336 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: once you were an adult, your brain structure was set 337 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: in stone. But doctor Van Lommel highlights evidence showing that 338 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 3: the mind, your thoughts, your consciousness can physically rewrite the 339 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: hardware of your brain. He talks about the placebo effect. 340 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: We often dismissed placebos as fake, but doctor Van Loammo 341 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: says they are proof of the mind's power. In one study, 342 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 3: he cites, patients with depression were given a sugar pill, 343 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: a placebo, they thought they were getting medicine, and guess 344 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: what Their brain scans showed actual physical changes. The activity 345 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: in their brain changed just as much as the people 346 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: who got the real drugs. So a thought a purely 347 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: non physical thing created a physical chemical change in the body. 348 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: He also talks about meta meditation. He references studies on 349 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 3: Buddhist monks who have spent thousands of hours in meditation. 350 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: Their brain waves are fundamentally different. They have permanently altered 351 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: the structure of their brains by focusing their consciousness. This 352 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 3: is the hidden power we spoke about earlier. If your 353 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 3: consciousness is primary and your body is just the receiver, 354 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: then you have the power to tune the receiver. You 355 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: are not a victim of your biology. You, my friend, 356 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: are the driver of it. Doctor van Lommel's research leads 357 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: us to this conclusion. The brain doesn't produce the mind 358 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: any more than a radio produces the music. And just 359 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: as the music continues even if you smash the radio, 360 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: you continue when this physical body finally wears out. So 361 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 3: if we are eternal, non local beings, where do we 362 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: go when we leave the body? And what about our 363 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 3: loved ones who have already made that journey? Can we 364 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: still communicate with them? Doctor Pim van Lommel says yes. 365 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: In our next segment, together, we're going to look at 366 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 3: the evidence for after death communication. We'll hear about the 367 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: pery mortal experiences where people know a loved one has 368 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 3: died even before the phone rings, and the verified cases 369 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: of people seeing deceased relatives they didn't even know we're dead. 370 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 3: The cloud is filled with our loved ones, my friend, 371 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 3: and our connections never break. So take a look around 372 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: right now. We live in this illusion that we have 373 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 3: to see it to believe it. But just like the 374 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: GPS signals, the radio waves, the television signals, you can 375 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: imagine all the satellites that are hovering around planet Earth 376 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: right now, sending these invisible signals. We can't see them, 377 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 3: and they are very real. So when we think about 378 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: our loved ones, our pets included, are still vibrating on 379 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: frequencies we can't see them, but their energy still exists. 380 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: And of course you know, I believe they continue to 381 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 3: learn and explore on the other side, but they're only 382 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 3: a thought away from us, vibrating in the same invisible 383 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: space all around us. We'll be right back. 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We've looked at the hardware side of things, 410 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: how our brains act as receivers, and how our DNA 411 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 3: might be the antennas that connect us to the universe. 412 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: But if our consciousness is a signal stored in the cloud, 413 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: a non local field that exists outside of space and time, 414 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: then a huge question arises. If I am in the 415 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: cloud and my deceased grandmother is in the cloud, can 416 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: we connect? Can we still communicate? Doctor Van Lommel says 417 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: the answer is a definite yes. And he doesn't just 418 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: base this on hope. He bases it on cases where 419 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: information is transferred from the dead to the living in 420 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: ways that are scientifically impossible to explain. He categorizes these 421 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: into different types of contact. The first one is what 422 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: he calls perry mortal experience, parry meaning around or near. 423 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: These are experiences that happen at the exact moment someone dies. 424 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: That they happened to a loved one who is miles 425 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: away and has no idea that the death is occurring. 426 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: Here's a story from a mother. It was the end 427 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: of the year two thousand. The mother was at home, 428 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: going about her evening. She had no reason to worry, 429 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: but suddenly something strange happened. She described seeing a literal 430 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: sphere of light enter her window. It moved across the 431 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: room and entered her forehead. In that instant, she said, 432 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: she became awareness without a body. She was in a 433 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: place profoundly lit, feeling a sense of spacious depth. In 434 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 3: this state of pure awareness, she felt the presence of 435 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 3: her eldest son. He had been suffering from chronic pain 436 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: for years, but in this vision she heard words clearly 437 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: spoken to her. There is nothing wrong, and there has 438 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 3: never been anything wrong. She felt it in every cell 439 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: of her body, a total sense of peace and well 440 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 3: being regarding her son. The next day, the police knocked 441 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: on her door. They told her that her son had 442 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 3: died by suicide. When they gave the estimated time of death, 443 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: it matched exactly the moment the sphere of light entered 444 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: her room. Doctor Van Lommel uses this case to show 445 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: that consciousness is instantaneous. The moment the sun left his body, 446 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: his consciousness, his signal, reached out to the person he 447 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 3: was closest to. That was his mother. He didn't need 448 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: a phone, he didn't need wires. They were entangled in 449 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: this non local field. But sometimes the communication happens days 450 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 3: or weeks later. That is what we call after death 451 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 3: communication or ADC's. Now skeptics love to dismiss ADC's. They say, oh, 452 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 3: you're just grieving, you're imagining. It's wishful thinking. But doctor 453 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: van Lommel presents a case that destroys the wishful thinking 454 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: argument because it involves solving a crime. The story comes 455 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: from a woman whose father had been murdered. It was 456 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: a cold case. Three weeks had passed and the police 457 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: had hit a dead end. They had no leads, no suspects. 458 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: They even put a plea in the newspaper asking for help. 459 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: The daughter was devastated, but then she started having dreams. 460 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: There are three nights in a row. Her father appeared 461 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 3: to her, but he didn't just say I love you. 462 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: He gave her specific instructions. He told her to look 463 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 3: in specific files in his office. On the third night, 464 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 3: the communication became even more precise. He gave her a 465 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: specific name and a specific date. The daughter was terrified. 466 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: She thought, if I call the police with this, they're 467 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: going to think I'm a lunatic. But the dream was 468 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: far too real to ignore. She called the head of 469 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 3: the ATF who was working the case. She told him, 470 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: I know this sounds insane, but my father told me 471 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 3: to look for this name. The agent looked it up. 472 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: The name was real and the date was real. Because 473 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: of that dream, the police were able to find the 474 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: person who then gave up the names of the people 475 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 3: involved in the murder. That is data, that is information transfer. 476 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: Thought from the other side was still conscious, still aware 477 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: of justice, and still able to access his own memories 478 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 3: to help his daughter. Doctor Van Lommel argues that this 479 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: cloud of consciousness isn't just for the dead. It's a 480 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 3: field of infinite information that living people tap into as well. 481 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: He devotes a fascinating section of his essay to genius 482 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: and inspiration. Where does a sudden scientific breakthrough come from? 483 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 3: Where does a symphony come from? Doctor Van Lommel points 484 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: out that Mozart famously said he didn't compose his music. 485 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: He heard it in his head, fully formed, and then 486 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 3: just rushed to write it down. He wasn't inventing it, 487 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: he was downloading it. He mentions the chemist who created 488 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 3: the periodic table, he had been struggling for years to 489 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: organize the elements. Then in a sudden brain wave, a 490 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: flash of insight, he saw the entire table clearly. Doctor 491 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 3: van Lammle suggests that these geniuses are simply people whose 492 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 3: receiver is tuned perfectly to the non local cloud. They 493 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 3: are accessing information that exists outside of their own brain. 494 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 3: So whether it is a murdered father solving his own 495 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: crime or Mozart hearing a symphony, the mechanism is the same. 496 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 3: It's connection, and sometimes that connection is verified by two 497 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: people at once. This is called the shared ADC. Doctor 498 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: van Lammle shares a story of a woman whose mother 499 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 3: had died after a long illness involving paralysis and a 500 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 3: brain hemorrhage. Three days after the funeral, the daughter was sleeping. 501 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 3: Suddenly she was woken up by a strange cold feeling 502 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 3: in the room. She rolled over and saw her mother, 503 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 3: but not the sick, paralyzed mother she had known. At 504 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 3: the end. She saw her mother dressed in white, radiating light, 505 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: smiling and beautiful. Her mother touched her shoulder and communicated telepathically, 506 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 3: everything is all right now, and there is nothing for 507 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: you to worry about. The daughter fell back asleep, thinking 508 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 3: it was just a vivid dream. The next afternoon, she 509 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 3: went to her father's room to tell him about it, 510 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 3: but before she could get the words out, her father 511 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 3: looked at her with wide eyes and said, you'll never 512 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 3: guess what happened last night. He told her. In the 513 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 3: middle of the night, a cold feeling woke me up, 514 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 3: and I saw your mother at the end of the bed. 515 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 3: She was radiating light, and she was dressed in white, 516 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 3: and she touched me and said that I shouldn't be 517 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 3: worried about her. Here is the detail that makes this 518 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 3: so powerful. The father was a rational doctor. He didn't 519 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 3: believe in ghosts, he didn't talk about spiritual things, and 520 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 3: yet he had the exact same visitation, with the exact 521 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 3: same details, at the exact same time as his daughter. 522 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 3: This is not a hallucination. That is a family reunion. 523 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 3: Doctor Van Lommel points to what might be the most 524 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: startling evidence of all, and that's meeting people you didn't 525 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: even know we're dead. In a hallucination, your brain projects 526 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: what it already knows. You can't hallucinate a stranger and 527 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 3: then find out later they are your long lost relative. 528 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 3: The brain can't invent information it doesn't have, but in 529 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 3: the cloud of consciousness that information exists. Doctor Van Lommel 530 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 3: recounts the story of a man who had a near 531 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 3: death experience during cardiac arrest. In his vision, he saw 532 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 3: his deceased grandmother. That makes sense, right, He knew her, 533 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: he loved her. But standing next to his grandmother was 534 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 3: a man he didn't recognize, a man who looked at 535 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 3: him with incredible love. The patient came back to life 536 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 3: and didn't think much of it. He assumed it was 537 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 3: just a random spirit. Ten years went by, and then 538 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 3: when his mother was on her deathbed, she called him 539 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: close and said, I have a confession to make. She 540 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 3: told him that the man who raised him wasn't his 541 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 3: biological father. She revealed that his biological father was a 542 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: Jewish man who had been deported and killed during the 543 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 3: Second World War. She then handed him a photograph of 544 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 3: his real father. The patient looked at the photo and froze. 545 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: It was the man from his near death experience, the 546 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 3: man he had seen ten years earlier standing next to 547 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 3: his grandmother. He had met his own father in heaven, 548 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 3: a decade before he even knew his father existed. And 549 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 3: before we wrap up this segment, I want to share 550 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 3: one more piece of evidence from doctor Van Lommel's essay 551 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 3: that I think you'll find fascinating. It falls under the 552 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 3: category of scientific trivia. It's called the Global Consciousness Project. 553 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 3: Originally started at Princeton University, researchers placed devices called random 554 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 3: number generators all over the world. These are just machines 555 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 3: that spit out random zeros and ones twenty four hours 556 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: a day. They're supposed to be completely unpredictable, but doctor 557 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 3: Van Lommel notes so that these machines stop being random 558 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 3: during major global events, when Princess Diana died or during 559 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 3: the attacks on nine to eleven moments, when millions of 560 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 3: people were focused on the same tragedy and the same grief, 561 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 3: the machines changed. They started generating organized patterns. Think about 562 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 3: that these machines weren't connected to the news. They were 563 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 3: connected to people, but the intense synchronized emotion of human 564 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 3: consciousness was strong enough to physically alter the behavior of 565 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: machines on the other side of the planet. Doctor van 566 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 3: Lommel says, this is proof that our consciousness is not 567 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 3: just a personal signal. It is a physical force. We 568 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 3: are constantly broadcasting my friends and the world. Even the 569 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 3: physical world is listening. These stories. The Perry mortal sphere 570 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 3: of light, the murdered father solving his own case, the 571 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 3: shared vision of the mother, the meeting with the unknown 572 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 3: father are the bricks that built doctor van Lommel's argument 573 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 3: and won him second place in the contest. They prove 574 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: that we are all connected in a vast, invisible web. 575 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 3: Doctor van Lommele calls it interconnectedness. It means that no 576 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 3: one is ever truly lost. The signal is always there, 577 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 3: The love is always broadcasting. We just have to tune 578 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 3: into it. Doctor van Lommel's essay concludes with a powerful 579 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 3: message about what this means for us right now. Well, 580 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 3: because if we are eternal, if we are connected, and 581 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 3: if our thoughts create reality, then how should we be 582 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 3: living our lives. In our final segment, we're going to 583 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 3: look at the transformation. We'll hear how these experiences change 584 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 3: people forever, and finally the beautiful advice doctor Ben Lommel 585 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 3: gives to the medical world and to us. We'll be 586 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 3: right back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on 587 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 588 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 1: Stay there, Sandra will be right back. 589 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 3: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 590 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 3: Paranormal Podcast Network with the best shows that explore the paranormal, supernatural, 591 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 3: and the unexplained. You can enjoy all shows on the 592 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 3: iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your 593 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 3: favorite podcasts. 594 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 5: The best afterlife information you can get. 595 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 3: Well, you're a long Shades of the Afterlife with Sander Champlain. 596 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain. 597 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 3: We've been on quite a journey today with the work 598 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 3: of cardiologist doctor Pym Van Lommel, We've seen the medical 599 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 3: evidence of the dentures man who saw his own resuscitation, 600 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 3: heard the stories of the blue man who was angry 601 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 3: at being saved, and the healthy man who shared a 602 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 3: deathbed vision. We've looked at the science of the brain 603 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 3: being a receiver and the undeniable cases of after death 604 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 3: communications solving crimes. But doctor Van Lommeole saves his strongest 605 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 3: argument for last. He says that skeptics can try to 606 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 3: explain away the tunnels and the lights. They can say, oh, 607 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 3: it's just a chemical dump in the brain, But there 608 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 3: is one thing that a chemical dump cannot explain, transformation. 609 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 3: If you have a hallucination, say if you take a 610 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 3: drug or have a fever dream, you wake up, you 611 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 3: might say, wow, that was really weird, and then you 612 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 3: go back to being exactly who you were before. A 613 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 3: hallucination doesn't rewrite your personality, it doesn't change your moral code, 614 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 3: but a near death experience does. In his famous eight 615 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 3: year prospective study, doctor Van Lomole found that the people 616 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 3: who had a near death experience were fundamentally different people 617 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 3: eight years later compared to cardiac survivors who didn't have one. 618 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 3: The changes were profound, they had last their fear of 619 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 3: death completely. They had a significantly stronger belief in and afterlife. 620 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 3: They became less interested in money, status, and possessions. They 621 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 3: became more interested in nature, social justice, and helping others. 622 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 3: They displayed more emotion and more love. Doctor Van Lommel 623 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 3: calls this objective proof of a subjective experience. You can't 624 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 3: measure the vision they had, but you can measure the 625 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 3: person they became. And the person they became is proof 626 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 3: that they touched something very real. But why do they 627 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 3: change what happens in that realm that rewrites a person's character. 628 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 3: Doctor Van Lommel argues it is because of the life review. 629 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 3: In a life review, you don't just watch a movie 630 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 3: of your life. You relive it. But here's the catch. 631 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 3: You don't just feel your own emotions. You feel the 632 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 3: emotions and the experience of every single person you interacted with. 633 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 3: If you were kind to someone, you feel their relief 634 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 3: and joy as if it were your own. But if 635 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 3: you are cruel to someone, you feel their pain and 636 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 3: their sorrow as if it were your own. Doctor Van 637 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 3: Lommel explains that this happens because in that non local consciousness, 638 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 3: there is no separation. You realize that you are the 639 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 3: other person. You are connected. He uses the analogy of 640 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 3: a hologram. In a hologram, every tiny piece of the 641 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 3: film contains the image of the whole in the universe. 642 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 3: Every individual consciousness contains the whole of humanity. When experiencers 643 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 3: return from that state of total connection, they can no 644 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 3: longer hurt another person because they realize if I hurt you, 645 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 3: I am literally hurting myself. This isn't just a moral 646 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 3: rule they learned in Sunday School. It's a physical reality 647 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 3: they experienced. That is why the transformation is permanent. That 648 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 3: is why they can't go back to being selfish. They 649 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 3: have seen the truth. Separation is an illusion. We are one. 650 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 3: And there is one more detail about this place that 651 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 3: doctor Van Lomel reveals which completely shatters our understanding of reality. 652 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 3: It's not just about looking back at your life. He 653 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 3: reports that many experiencers also experience a flash forward when 654 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 3: they are out of their bodies. They don't just see 655 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 3: the past. They see glimpses of the future. They see 656 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,240 Speaker 3: children who haven't been born yet, they see future career changes. 657 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 3: They see specific scenes from their life that are ten 658 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 3: or twenty years down the road, and verifiably years later, 659 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,959 Speaker 3: these events come true exactly as they saw them during 660 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 3: their cardiac arrest. Doctor van Lommele says this proves that 661 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 3: time as we know it, the ticking clock, is just 662 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 3: an illusion of our physical brains and the realm of consciousness. Past, present, 663 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 3: and future are all happening at once in an eternal Now. 664 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 3: That's pretty comforting. It implies that your life isn't just 665 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 3: a series of random, chaotic events. It suggests that there 666 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 3: might be a plan, a purpose, and a destiny that 667 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,240 Speaker 3: your soul is already aware of, even if your brain 668 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 3: hasn't caught up yet. However, doctor van Lommel is very 669 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 3: honest in his essay about the price of this knowledge. 670 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 3: Evalidates something that many spiritually awakened people struggle with. The 671 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 3: return is hard. Imagine coming back from a place of total, 672 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 3: unconditional love, where you are connected to the entire universe 673 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,320 Speaker 3: and maybe even see your own loved ones, and suddenly 674 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 3: your squeak back into a heavy, painful body. You are 675 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 3: back in a world of traffic jams, taxes, petty arguments, 676 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 3: and materialism. He notes that it can take years for 677 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 3: people to integrate this experience. They often suffer from depression, 678 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 3: not because they are sad, but because they are homesick. 679 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 3: They miss the light and the love. He points out 680 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 3: a startling statistic. The divorce rate among people who have 681 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 3: had a near death experience is over seventy percent. Why 682 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 3: because the person who came back isn't the same person 683 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,720 Speaker 3: who left. The husband who cared about the new car 684 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 3: and the country club is gone has been replaced by 685 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 3: a man who wants to sit in nature and talk 686 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 3: about the soul. If the partner can't understand that shift, 687 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 3: the relationship often crumbles. This is important evidence too. A 688 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 3: hallucination doesn't cause you to divorce your spouse and change 689 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 3: your career. Only a life altering truth does that. He 690 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 3: also discusses a fascinating side effect of this rewiring of consciousness. 691 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 3: It's called enhanced intuition. It seems that once the receiver 692 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 3: the brain has been fully opened to the non local cloud, 693 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 3: it never quite closes all the way again. Doctor Van 694 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 3: Lommel reports that many of his patients acquired what we 695 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 3: would call paranormal gifts. They became highly sensitive to the 696 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 3: feelings of others. They could sense when someone was sick. 697 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 3: They had precognitive dreams they knew who was calling before 698 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 3: the phone rang. It's as if their antenna got upgraded. 699 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 3: They are now picking up more channels than just their own. 700 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 3: They are permanently tuned into that interconnectedness. And this leads 701 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 3: to doctor Van Lommo's most passionate plea. He isn't just 702 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 3: writing this for scientists. He is writing it for doctors, nurses, 703 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 3: and for each of us. He says that our current 704 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 3: medical system is based on a lie. We treat the 705 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 3: body as a machine that needs to be fixed, and 706 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 3: we treat death as the ultimate failure. Because of this, 707 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 3: we sedate dying people. We ignore their stories about seeing 708 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 3: deceased relatives. We dismiss their terminal lucidity as confusion. We 709 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 3: treat death as a medical problem to be solved, rather 710 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 3: than a spiritual transition to be honored. He writes, our 711 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 3: ideas about death define how we live our life. Think 712 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 3: about that. If you believe death is the end, if 713 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 3: you believe consciousness is just a chemical accident, then you 714 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 3: live in fear. You hoard your resources, you compete with others, 715 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,800 Speaker 3: You cling to the temporary, You identify with your body, 716 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 3: so you are terrified of aging. But if you know, 717 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 3: as doctor v Lomo knows, that consciousness is eternal, everything changes. 718 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 3: He says, death is only the end of our physical aspects. 719 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 3: When you realize this, you realize that how you treat 720 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 3: people matters infinitely more than what you own. You realize 721 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 3: that every thought you have influences the whole. You realize 722 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 3: that you are not a temporary biological accident, that you 723 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 3: are an eternal being having a temporary human experience. He 724 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,720 Speaker 3: closes his essay with a quote from Plato, written two 725 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 3: thousand years ago. Death is an awakening, a remembering of 726 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 3: the soul. I like that, isn't that beautiful? You aren't 727 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,439 Speaker 3: going to die, You are going to wake up. There's 728 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,439 Speaker 3: so much more in this incredible essay, and if you'd 729 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 3: like to read the whole thing, and of course the 730 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 3: other winning essays that the Bigelow Institute for Consciousness Studies held, 731 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 3: written by some of the most brilliant minds on the planet, 732 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 3: you can read them all for free. Just go to 733 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,760 Speaker 3: Bigelowinstitute dot org. And I encourage you to check out 734 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 3: doctor Pim van Lammel's book, which is called Consciousness Beyond 735 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 3: Life The Science of Near Death Experience and his website 736 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 3: is Pim Vanlommel dot NL and L for Netherlands. As 737 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 3: we wrap up today, I want to leave you with 738 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 3: a thought from doctor van Lommel's conclusion. He says that 739 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 3: when we understand the continuity of consciousness, we realize that 740 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 3: we are enfolded in pure, unconditional love. That love isn't 741 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 3: something you have to earn, It isn't something you have 742 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 3: to wait until you die to feel. It is the 743 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 3: very fabric of the universe you are living in right now. 744 00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 3: Your brain is the receiver, The signal is love of 745 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 3: So this week, try to tune your receiver in just 746 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 3: a little better. Why don't we all try to quiet 747 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:12,320 Speaker 3: the noise, listen to our intuition, pay attention to synchronicities 748 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 3: or coincidences, and know that the people you miss are 749 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,280 Speaker 3: not gone. They have just stepped out of the physical 750 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 3: room and into the non local cloud that surrounds us all. 751 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 3: They are part of the signal, and so are you. 752 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 3: As a reminder, come visit me at We Don't Die 753 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 3: dot com, Join my mailing list, get a free copy 754 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 3: of my book, and so much more. We have our 755 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 3: free Sunday Gathering inspirational service on Zoom every week I'd 756 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 3: love to meet you. A medium demonstration is included. Also, 757 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 3: if you didn't hear the big news, we have a 758 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 3: new We Don't Die film that just got released. Currently 759 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 3: it is airing on Apple TV. I'll let you know 760 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,720 Speaker 3: when it comes to more places. But on Apple TV, 761 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,800 Speaker 3: just search for Evidence of the Afterlife. It's about bringing 762 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 3: more integrity into the world of evidential mediumship. In closing, 763 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. I want you to remember that you 764 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 3: are eternal. You are one of a kind. Keep expressing 765 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 3: yourself as a radiant being you are. You're deeply loved, 766 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 3: my friend. Thank you so much for listening to Shades 767 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 3: of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 768 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 3: am Paranormal podcast Network. 769 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost 770 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 2: Day and Paranormal podcast Network. Make sure and check out 771 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 2: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 772 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 2: to iHeartRadio dot com.