Speaker 1: Check it on Man No Down Man Thursday morning, December,
Speaker 1: Happy New Year. It's the Beating the Book podcast megapod
Speaker 1: Live from the D Week seventeen. I mentioned that already,
Speaker 1: Skill Alexander, thanks for listening, Mike Palm. Here at the D.
Speaker 1: It's our final regular season podcast this year. From this
Speaker 1: shield like table at the D. The crowd is just
Speaker 1: at its standing room only here. It really is. You
Speaker 1: would think that we knew about COVID before we designed.
Speaker 1: This is the perfect though. I mean, this is this
Speaker 1: is there's a lot of space here. People don't get
Speaker 1: on top of you. It's it's it's built for it.
Speaker 1: And Sunday we've invited the thirty five remaining survivors Chrissie
Speaker 1: and Vinnie and on that whole crew. They can come
Speaker 1: down with us and watch Week seventeen here with Derek
Speaker 1: and I. And we also invited the top eleven in
Speaker 1: circum Allien, in the top nine and the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: to come. So people, if they're in town and they
Speaker 1: want to sweat with the other folks that are in
Speaker 1: it will be pretty good time here. I would never
Speaker 1: want to do that if I was one of the
Speaker 1: final thirty five. I have some film crewis here, Chrissy,
Speaker 1: would you want to do that? By the way, Chris
Speaker 1: andrews Our esteemed guest on the megapod say good, go ahead,
Speaker 1: also do on Sunday, so I don't think. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got a gig. It's Todd Wishnet from his mom's cork
Speaker 1: addict with the south point background here and from Pittsburgh, PA.
Speaker 1: How you doing, Toddy. It's good to see you all,
Speaker 1: and uh, hopefully we will be able to impart some
Speaker 1: wisdom to the masses today. Um, would you like me
Speaker 1: to do the recap of the records right now? Well? Yes,
Speaker 1: but formerly Chris andrews is Our is a rotating guest
Speaker 1: this week for the scoreliest of all weeks, week seventeen.
Speaker 1: We have to use the word scorely. Uh, so he's
Speaker 1: kind enough to join us. You guys could be next
Speaker 1: door to each other for all we know. But Chris
Speaker 1: is actually in Vegas, not at his hometown of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Give us, give us the court stenographer, give us the
Speaker 1: uh I know I went oh in three, give us
Speaker 1: the tally. Well, Chris is actually in the other room
Speaker 1: next to my my old living room, my old living
Speaker 1: room which I used to allow two and ten people
Speaker 1: to sit out with me every day and watch the
Speaker 1: games at the South Point and had the hot dogs
Speaker 1: right there for me. But unfortunately, you know, we've got
Speaker 1: something difference. Anyways, here's the records. The records. Coming into
Speaker 1: last week, Gil was in the lead, but Gilly Ice
Speaker 1: took a little oh in three action to move to
Speaker 1: twenty to twenty three and three, Mikey one one and
Speaker 1: one to move to twenty two, twenty two and four,
Speaker 1: and I had a bad week as well, one and
Speaker 1: two and I moved to and one. But the teaser world,
Speaker 1: which is, of course, who's gonna bet pregame except teasers,
Speaker 1: So that's what really matters. They other records don't matter.
Speaker 1: What really matters is who's the best in teaser and
Speaker 1: I am the best in teasers at eleven and five,
Speaker 1: Mikey at ten and six and Gill at nine and seven.
Speaker 1: We all got screwed with Jared Goff. Of course, we
Speaker 1: need to start a new UM meeting. Instead of just
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers onymous, there should also be Jared Goff anonymous,
Speaker 1: because you have to have a mental illness to bet
Speaker 1: on Mr Goff. Jared Goff out this week out not
Speaker 1: playing in the Rams damp, wet, dirty, washcloth white uniforms. Instead,
Speaker 1: it will be John Wolford of Wake Forest who decided
Speaker 1: those uniforms were good. Those are the worst. John Wolford,
Speaker 1: who was a two time Alliance of American Football Player
Speaker 1: of the Week. Did you know that at a wake Forest?
Speaker 1: So he's the starter and we don't know if Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray's playing, so that that is the most scorely of
Speaker 1: all the games in week seventeen. By the way, how
Speaker 1: about Derrick Stevens riding in here last week having no
Speaker 1: show prep and going three and oh? He had plenty
Speaker 1: of show prep. We don't find that he didn't Oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't read that email. Come on, well the teasers,
Speaker 1: oh and four. We all had the Rams and he
Speaker 1: had the Washington football team. But he did go three
Speaker 1: and oh with his straight up picks. To be fair,
Speaker 1: he had no business winning over forty seven and a half.
Speaker 1: I had under forty seven and a half in game
Speaker 1: in the exact same game, in the Raiders Miami game.
Speaker 1: He had absolutely no business winning that game. But whatever. Alright,
Speaker 1: so Christie and I do guessing lines for those listening
Speaker 1: to the podcast. You know, Christie and I have been
Speaker 1: doing guessing lines for I don't know eight years, seven years.
Speaker 1: We we lost count uh spawned spawned, multi media is
Speaker 1: what it has done, books, best sellers. Uh. Then one
Speaker 1: day Chrissie's book. But we've we've done with our We're
Speaker 1: done with our guessing lines for the year. So I
Speaker 1: thought it would be great to have Christie on the megapod.
Speaker 1: And then he reminds me of all the weeks, this
Speaker 1: is the week you want to have me on. It
Speaker 1: is really the toughest week. But let's start with well,
Speaker 1: let's let's do Survivor. Let's just update Survivor real quick.
Speaker 1: Before we start with Chrissie's first best bet, thirty five
Speaker 1: left out of dred and ninety eighteen were bounced this week,
Speaker 1: the most on the Browns. That was a COVID you have?
Speaker 1: Did you have people who put in the Browns and
Speaker 1: then wanted to redo their pick? And one person, only one,
Speaker 1: and you said look, and we said no, and we
Speaker 1: showed him the whole history. No one, no one has
Speaker 1: ever been able to change their pick and Survivor um
Speaker 1: the rest didn't you know, the rest picked it with
Speaker 1: full knowledge they had planned you know. The interesting game
Speaker 1: was the Texans and the Chiefs. At least five had
Speaker 1: to be eliminated because five had the Texans and eight
Speaker 1: had the Chiefs out of the fifty three survivors, so
Speaker 1: there had to be five go down. Well, Texans didn't
Speaker 1: play the Chiefs. Texans played the bank. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yes, yes, that's correct, But Chiefs man, those
Speaker 1: Chief survivor pickers are very lucky. The interception dropped in
Speaker 1: the inside. Should have picked that ball. And then the
Speaker 1: field goal from Coup looked like it was going right
Speaker 1: down the pipe. And then at the gust of wind
Speaker 1: and that kid is great, but the best the gust
Speaker 1: of winds. So I think my twenty nine and a
Speaker 1: half in trouble. I'm gonna lose the bet to Derek.
Speaker 1: I'll owe him a hundred and he gave me five
Speaker 1: to one plus five dollars on over twenty nine and
Speaker 1: a half. What was your You might be right, it
Speaker 1: might be right. I'm all slightly off with sixty five
Speaker 1: slightly well, And and here's the big lament, and and
Speaker 1: I and I have this going. So we lost on
Speaker 1: the rams. He had the Saints. This weekend would have
Speaker 1: been his pick. The Ravens would have been mine. Both
Speaker 1: of those crews, and I had the Coult set up
Speaker 1: for week seventeen is two touchdown favorites over Indianapolis. So
Speaker 1: I hate Jared golf in the Rams so much it's
Speaker 1: not even funny. But I'm not one of the thirty five, Christy.
Speaker 1: Apparently on this podcast we let people know that you are. Mike.
Speaker 1: You already let the cat of the bag. Well, I guess, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Derek one of the last thirty five. Derek's been announcing
Speaker 1: about the war's launch crew from the South Point for
Speaker 1: six weeks. Yeah, but we on guessing lines. We're all
Speaker 1: being coy about just like just like crack wins his
Speaker 1: kit about it once he got six thirty five last
Speaker 1: I got. Yeah, he's got partners, he did, it's out,
Speaker 1: he don't. I have one extremely superstitious about baby names.
Speaker 1: Christ We allowed to ask you if you have any
Speaker 1: good teams left, but you could actually take this week
Speaker 1: and not have to swim it. Well, I mean I
Speaker 1: have both the Colts and the Ravens available. Oh so
Speaker 1: you so you're looking beautiful, looking looking pretty? Yeah? Wow,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of partners. I don't want anybody
Speaker 1: hitting me up for a loan. I got a lot
Speaker 1: of partners, so believe me, I'm not gonna Chris, is
Speaker 1: it Prince is in an octette? This group that you're
Speaker 1: in an octette of of of partners, well act you know,
Speaker 1: it's actually a little more now, Oh my goodness, wow
Speaker 1: enough to get a good lunch. They all put in
Speaker 1: fifty bucket. That's a little important if I can't. Did
Speaker 1: you guys buy five entries or three? Chris? Uh, we
Speaker 1: bought five, and that contest three and the other one.
Speaker 1: But um yeah, it's uh yeah, listen, I hope somebody
Speaker 1: hands me some cash on Monday morning. It's all I
Speaker 1: can tell you. But it's not gonna be as much
Speaker 1: as we were hoping for. We were the only ones surviving.
Speaker 1: But evidently, obviously, if it's twenty three people or less,
Speaker 1: it's still six figures and a half. Who was your
Speaker 1: closest call during the season, Like Gil Gil's closest call
Speaker 1: that he survived was that ridiculous Raiders Jets game and
Speaker 1: then of course Goff got him. Did you have a
Speaker 1: game that was like you were on the brink of
Speaker 1: in total disaster and you saved it. Well, we lost
Speaker 1: on four of the entries, so no, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the one on the one you have left. Did you
Speaker 1: have any close calls where you were like about to
Speaker 1: be Disasterville and you saved it. I don't remember any
Speaker 1: of you know, and you know Todd, you never remember
Speaker 1: the wins. You only remember the losses, you know, So
Speaker 1: remember let me tell you that will remember the Raiders,
Speaker 1: Greg Williams and the Jets forever. Yeah I will, yeah,
Speaker 1: Gil will. But I first, personally, we weren't involved in
Speaker 1: that game, so that one didn't matter. Well, if you
Speaker 1: know you really can't. If I can't win, Christie, I'm
Speaker 1: glad it's I hope it. I hope it's you, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that you have twenty seven partners. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: let's start with these and uh, we'll have things to
Speaker 1: say about some stuff. I have a John Gruden rant
Speaker 1: that I have to repeat, and Christie will really be
Speaker 1: excited to hear me repeat that rant. But let's do.
Speaker 1: Can I just say one thing before we start the picks,
Speaker 1: because I think it's apropos for this week. Please one
Speaker 1: sentence I would like to say, must win does not
Speaker 1: mean will win. Must win does not mean will win.
Speaker 1: It's a thank you. It's a great place to start.
Speaker 1: By the way, just now over as we're doing this podcast,
Speaker 1: Ben Ruffles Burger will sit against the Cleveland Browns. That's
Speaker 1: a little bit surprising to me, really. Yeah, because I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why. Because because the Steelers thing. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Todd, that's a very good way to start.
Speaker 1: This is Dr Bob used to say, if you're in
Speaker 1: a must win situation, you must not be that good.
Speaker 1: So that is a very overrated handicapping thing. Um. But
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised, Chrisie. I'll tell you why. On
Speaker 1: the one hand, they were a team that really needed
Speaker 1: to buy week because they never really got one except
Speaker 1: for in Week three or four or whatever that was
Speaker 1: when when it wasn't supposed to be. On the other hand,
Speaker 1: does eighteen minutes of good football allow you to relax?
Speaker 1: You know? I don't know. How about how about what's
Speaker 1: you got about sixteen years of great football? Have them
Speaker 1: sit this week? I mean, but you can tell by
Speaker 1: the early number. I mean, the early number was seven
Speaker 1: built in you? Yeah, I mean, what you think the
Speaker 1: Browns are seven points better than the Steeler know leg week,
Speaker 1: of course, not well, it was building into the number
Speaker 1: and then in and out and then like everybody went crazy.
Speaker 1: So last I looked, you know, right before I got
Speaker 1: on the podcast, everybody went the nine and a half.
Speaker 1: I originally went to seven and a half, and then
Speaker 1: I saw everybody, I said, well, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: give him a free shot, so I went to nine.
Speaker 1: So if they want to bet me, they could bet nine.
Speaker 1: I'm just staying under the market because we I mean
Speaker 1: we we knew it was not gonna be Roethlisburg. I
Speaker 1: can't believe that the people rushed into the to bet
Speaker 1: this when they found out officially there wasn't yet. They
Speaker 1: had to read the tea leaves. They weren't gonna play out.
Speaker 1: I thought it wasn't see. I thought it was built in,
Speaker 1: and I read the tea leaves wrong. I thought it
Speaker 1: was gonna I thought that he was going to play
Speaker 1: and then it was gonna go the other way. So
Speaker 1: silly me. But you're definitely right. It was built in
Speaker 1: for sure, I mean absolutely. Now, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about how do you feel about the big brother little
Speaker 1: brother thing? You think the Steelers Still I still think
Speaker 1: the Steelers may cover Oh yeah, you know, tid hit it.
Speaker 1: You know, the musk wind is not necessarily true. I
Speaker 1: I kind of echoed with Bob said in different verbiage.
Speaker 1: I said, it's the most overrated thing in sports. You know,
Speaker 1: these must win games. You know, I see it, you
Speaker 1: know football for sure, but we see it in basketball
Speaker 1: quite a bit too. Must win and then you know
Speaker 1: there's a reason that, like Bob said, there's a reason
Speaker 1: there must win situation. They must not be that good.
Speaker 1: I think this number is way way out of line.
Speaker 1: All right, what's your number one best bet? Christie? We
Speaker 1: start with you. Well, I'm thinking about making it the Steelers,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna go there yet. I'm sure we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that a little later. But I'm thinking it's
Speaker 1: the Seahawks over the forty niners. I think that number
Speaker 1: right now just looks a little cheap. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: five seems to be the consensus. Excuse me. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks are just playing pretty good football. Their defense
Speaker 1: has finally come around after you know, really a horrendous start.
Speaker 1: Now they played some weak opponents in the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, and I'm sure of improved their defense of statistics.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, you play who you're playing, and this forty
Speaker 1: Niner team, you know, Gil we've talked about it on
Speaker 1: guessing the lines. You know, they've just had so many
Speaker 1: different issues. I think it's a well coached team. I
Speaker 1: think it's a really good organization and all that. But
Speaker 1: they've had as many injuries this year pretty much as
Speaker 1: as many as I can remember a team having. And
Speaker 1: not just injuries, but you know, pro bowlers, all pros,
Speaker 1: and you know, besides the quarterback there down to their
Speaker 1: third quarterback. UM, there's just a lot of issues there.
Speaker 1: They've been on the road for the last month, even
Speaker 1: though it's a quote unquote a home game. You know,
Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot of things that I know,
Speaker 1: if I was a forty Niner just mentally have to think, Okay,
Speaker 1: this thing is just about over. Where's the Seahawks? UM
Speaker 1: probably playing their best ball of the season right now.
Speaker 1: I think that five number looks a little cheap, So
Speaker 1: that's gonna be my best bet Seattle. Yeah, San Francisco,
Speaker 1: no fault of their own, just what a what a
Speaker 1: hand they've been dealt this year. Seahawks can clench the
Speaker 1: number one seed. They already clinched the NFC West. They
Speaker 1: can clinch the number one seed with a win, a
Speaker 1: New Orleans loss, and a Green Bay loss to Chicago.
Speaker 1: So Seattle pick number one. Mike Palm, Ladies and gentlemen, Derek,
Speaker 1: what are you making it? Five or five and a half?
Speaker 1: Five and a half? No man's land, Mike Palm, Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. The vice president of Operations at at Circus Sports,
Speaker 1: Derek Stevens, conciliary numerono. I have to believe that Alex
Speaker 1: Smith is ready to play for the football team. And
Speaker 1: I don't think that Jalen Hurts is going to be
Speaker 1: able to beat them through the air because they're not
Speaker 1: gonna let them run the ball. That defensive front is
Speaker 1: too good. They're gonna make Jalen Hurts throw the ball.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what Phillies motivation is here. You know,
Speaker 1: they thought they had this division in the bag all
Speaker 1: year with that tie, and they were always a half
Speaker 1: game ahead, and they were always you know, and you know,
Speaker 1: teach me how to Doug ee at the quarterback whisper
Speaker 1: and all that. So in this Sunday night spectacular to
Speaker 1: fin the year, and we won't know who the benefactor
Speaker 1: is of a of a Washington loss until the Giants
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys play for the right to be the
Speaker 1: the right to be the standing if the Philly does
Speaker 1: beat them. But I just I have to believe that
Speaker 1: the Washington football team is going to win this game.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to step in and say that's my
Speaker 1: number two pick as well. I've already bet it. What
Speaker 1: do you have as a number? The number and a half?
Speaker 1: That's too mainly now, I think Todd I got two.
Speaker 1: I see a lot of two. Yeah to Washington US too.
Speaker 1: As long as it's under three, I'm all about it.
Speaker 1: I already bet it at minus two. Uh. I totally
Speaker 1: believe that they made the Dwayne Haskins move thinking that
Speaker 1: Alex Smith will be available. Taylor Heineke would go if
Speaker 1: not Alex Smith. Washington's record since the start of the
Speaker 1: eighteen season. Again, for those who listen to guessing lines,
Speaker 1: for give me for repeating a few of these, but
Speaker 1: Washington's records since the beginning of the twenty eighteen season
Speaker 1: ten and five with Alex Smith starting, six and twenty
Speaker 1: with other starting. And again, that's the other big headline
Speaker 1: we should start with here. Today, the NFL has legislated
Speaker 1: out the possibility of correlated parlays. So the early window
Speaker 1: on Sunday, all the teams in the a f C
Speaker 1: who are either going to be in or out of
Speaker 1: the playoffs, the Miami, Baltimore's and Cleveland's of the world,
Speaker 1: they play in the early time slot, the late afternoon
Speaker 1: time slot. It's a f C South winners. It's either
Speaker 1: gonna be Indianapolis or Tennessee. The team's buying for the
Speaker 1: number one seed in the NFC. Green Bay, New Orleans
Speaker 1: and Seattle are playing and the NFC ins and outs.
Speaker 1: Will they make the playoffs? Will they not? Uh? And
Speaker 1: then of course the nightcap is the stand alone between
Speaker 1: Washington and Philadelphia to determine ultimately the NFC East champion,
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Giants winner looking on all right, by
Speaker 1: the way, quirks, just since we bring up the Giants,
Speaker 1: the Giants could win the division or pick third in
Speaker 1: the NFL draft. That's how big their chasm is. Six
Speaker 1: and ten could win a division in the n SEE
Speaker 1: the East, and eleven and five could miss the playoffs
Speaker 1: in the a f C. So Mikey's number one is Washington.
Speaker 1: That's my number two. Todd, you're number one. First of all, obviously,
Speaker 1: this week is ridiculously hard. Um, I'll just preface by
Speaker 1: saying that I'm gonna take a little team. Um. First, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you who, what number do you have
Speaker 1: for the New York Football Giants plus three? Okay, then
Speaker 1: I'm definitely taking it. Give me the New York Football
Speaker 1: Giants plus three against the Dallas cow Girls. Now they
Speaker 1: got to the window for me. Last week, I saw
Speaker 1: a star back to Drew Pearson or whatever, Aikman to Irvin,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was. With the beige water
Speaker 1: pistol to uh you know, Ceedee Lamb and whoever else.
Speaker 1: Gallup was scoring a touchdown every ten seconds. It was fantastic.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. The New York Giants are good
Speaker 1: on defense. Now we've got a Dallas team that is
Speaker 1: incredibly up and down all season, with great one week,
Speaker 1: terrible the next week, all that other craziness. The Giants
Speaker 1: are gonna play defensive football. Now, granted, they're not good
Speaker 1: on offense, we all know that. But now you're only
Speaker 1: asking me to be at home and keep it close.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the New York Giants. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the plus three. I know Zeke's coming in with, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm great, Give me the porridge. I wanna eat the porridge,
Speaker 1: nonsense and everything. Give me the Giants plus three. Let
Speaker 1: Dallas be Dallas. Dallas is who we thought they work.
Speaker 1: Who said Dallas is who we thought they were. They're
Speaker 1: in consistent. Give me the Giants plus three. Why did
Speaker 1: you decide that Zeke was eating porridge in those things?
Speaker 1: When he minds that the thing where he gets a run,
Speaker 1: he gets a four yard run and he starts eating
Speaker 1: porridge whatever he's eating. It's ridiculous. What was the last
Speaker 1: time you think you had porridge? Todd had's always been
Speaker 1: a big Goldilocks fan. Looks like a guy who's like
Speaker 1: eating out of a bowl of I don't know, maybe porridge.
Speaker 1: Oliver twist. It's right, it's all Oliver twist. Oliver twists.
Speaker 1: All right, Christy, you're number two porridge. I don't I
Speaker 1: believe I've never had porridge. I'm gonna stand by that.
Speaker 1: I think you know. By the way to two little things,
Speaker 1: because we're both games were mentioned. We have two games
Speaker 1: where home dogs have gone to road favorites, uh and
Speaker 1: one one being the Cowboys and depending on the why
Speaker 1: where you were with you know, and it could be
Speaker 1: Washington was also a home dog. Depending anyway, my second
Speaker 1: best bet, I think I'm gonna go with the Steelers,
Speaker 1: you know, plus the nine and a half. I just
Speaker 1: think that's, uh, you know, a ridiculous over adjustment. It's
Speaker 1: still most of the most of the Steelers defense I
Speaker 1: think will play. But I mean, you never know what Tomlin. Uh.
Speaker 1: But still they have enough in there that I think
Speaker 1: that they keep this game close. We're talking about nine
Speaker 1: and even nine, nine and a half, whatever number you
Speaker 1: want to give me there. It's like Chris, we'll give
Speaker 1: you a ten, right, Okay, Yeah, Well I'm off my
Speaker 1: don best right now. When I when I got onto
Speaker 1: the screen here, I'm still looking. I got the south
Speaker 1: point numbers. Here, I got my computer. We are still
Speaker 1: at nine, but I got some action on the minus nine,
Speaker 1: so we may be going to ten soon. Anyway, give
Speaker 1: me the Steelers. I just think that's a ridiculous overadjustment.
Speaker 1: One back of the theme we talked about earlier, the
Speaker 1: must win means you must not be that good and
Speaker 1: you know, the Browns. You know they've been good, and
Speaker 1: actually part of me even wants to see them in
Speaker 1: the playoff guy kind of like Baker Mayfield. But this
Speaker 1: number is just ridiculously high. So give me the Steelers.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna tell you right now,
Speaker 1: I think at nine and a half. But don't hold
Speaker 1: on one second. But let me just make sure you
Speaker 1: guys see nine and a halfs and tens, I see
Speaker 1: ten plus. So fine, all right, let's let's give the
Speaker 1: man a ten. If you're gonna give him the ten,
Speaker 1: that you gotta give me the ten because that's my no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to start that nine and a half
Speaker 1: because then you're gonna take advantage nine and a half.
Speaker 1: Some I know you, so nine and a half both
Speaker 1: and Chrissy, that was my number one player I already
Speaker 1: the two bets I already made were Washington in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: And clearly I anticipated what Pittsburgh was gonna do incorrectly
Speaker 1: because I really thought that Mike Tomlin again, I get it,
Speaker 1: they need to buy. They got screwed on the bye
Speaker 1: week with that Tennessee Titans outbreak. Earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: but I really thought they were gonna be like, you
Speaker 1: know what, we're not good enough to chill here, But
Speaker 1: apparently they are. Mason Rudolph will be their starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: But you give me nine and a half, I'll take
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh all day long. I think there's a big brother
Speaker 1: little brother thing that's happening with Cleveland too. I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna do everything they can to knock those guys
Speaker 1: out if they can. So that's my number one. Washington
Speaker 1: is my number two. That's what I've actually been already
Speaker 1: your number two, sir, Well, I'm going to continue with
Speaker 1: the trend. Every Rams home game has gone under this year,
Speaker 1: really into so fine, and now it looks like they'll
Speaker 1: be without their starting quarterbacks. They are out without them,
Speaker 1: and maybe Kyler too. You know, there's been something wrong
Speaker 1: with this Arizona offense all year. They're just the timing
Speaker 1: is not their Kingsbury's offense. It's something's missing. And even
Speaker 1: when they beat Dallas on that Monday night when they
Speaker 1: ran him out of Jerryworld, there was just something wrong
Speaker 1: with that offense. I've been saying that since that game. Todd,
Speaker 1: do you even see a total for this game? You know.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I, I'm looking at this thing,
Speaker 1: and all I see is five dimes pick them thirty
Speaker 1: nine and a half. The only thing that's the only
Speaker 1: thing I see two is five times. I see a
Speaker 1: circle has thirty nine and a half. One of the
Speaker 1: smaller books in town, Chrissie, do you have a number
Speaker 1: posted for Arizon in the Rams? I didn't post that
Speaker 1: game just and it's not because of the Rams, even
Speaker 1: though they're gonna play at Wolford, because we know that
Speaker 1: I'm worried about Kyler Murray. Uh, it sounds like he's
Speaker 1: gonna at least attempt to play, but you know, kil
Speaker 1: I mean, any chance to even look it up? Who's
Speaker 1: this backup quarterback? I don't even know it's a straveler.
Speaker 1: So when we were watching on Primetime Action, Uh, the
Speaker 1: show that I do on MSG plus with Matt Brown,
Speaker 1: Daniel Vary, and Kelly Bidlin, we had a Cardinals game
Speaker 1: the night where Kyler Murray was was hurt in the
Speaker 1: middle of it, and we don't know if it was
Speaker 1: gonna go come back, and I asked, I go around,
Speaker 1: I go quick, name who their backup quarterback is in
Speaker 1: case he came and nobody could name him Chris Straveler.
Speaker 1: They also have from he played the CFL, he went,
Speaker 1: he did he played college in America? Yeah, Minnesota and
Speaker 1: South Dakota or something like, wow, okay, that's a too
Speaker 1: big of a drop off for me without knowing, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not gonna put that game up till
Speaker 1: I get, you know, a little more conclusive evidence as
Speaker 1: to who actually is gonna be under Shanner for for
Speaker 1: Arizona Winnipeg Blue Bombers in the CFL. They also they
Speaker 1: also have Brett Hundley on their roster for u c
Speaker 1: l A. So what does what does that mean? Todd?
Speaker 1: Are we not allowing him to pick this? I mean
Speaker 1: it's up to you. You're the senior administrators. Just on
Speaker 1: ahead and you go ahead and a half? All right?
Speaker 1: This is this is for all the regular season marbles?
Speaker 1: Under sure? Sure? Is? Is that is that a big
Speaker 1: a pot? Is the I heart chayouts? I'm not sure
Speaker 1: going to say that was the easy joke to make
Speaker 1: out there. All right, So he's taking so he's taking
Speaker 1: under thirty nine and a half in Arizona in the Rams. Yes,
Speaker 1: now it's time for fast money again. Where does that
Speaker 1: come from? No, no one knows. By the way, I
Speaker 1: did eat porridge once, me and my ex wife had
Speaker 1: porridge in the Hate District in San Francisco. It's a
Speaker 1: true story. It's like a crab and lobster porridge. It's
Speaker 1: like they put some kind of narcotic in it, and
Speaker 1: we were dizzy the rest of the evening. It's like
Speaker 1: they put some weed in there or something. San Francisco porridge.
Speaker 1: How many year? More than a decade, not not twenty
Speaker 1: between the between ten Tony. It's too bad. Brent Musburger's
Speaker 1: not the I guess today because then Mike could ask him.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that time with Phyllis George back in
Speaker 1: seventy seven that you guys ate brig and it was
Speaker 1: so incredible? Were the greatest that? By the way, brand
Speaker 1: and can you tell us more about Catholic judges and
Speaker 1: how great Notre Dame is? Thank you. I I like
Speaker 1: to ask him about Charles Canteen. He always says, nobody
Speaker 1: remembers Charles Canty. Charles Canty still riding on a horse
Speaker 1: interviewing people. I remember one day when she showed up.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking I've watched CBS Sports for my entire childhood.
Speaker 1: I don't remember Charlesie Canty, and they acted like she
Speaker 1: had been there forever. We had Jane Kennedy on my
Speaker 1: guys in the desert. I know you did. Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. Um all right, oh Todd number
Speaker 1: two Okay. My second pick is gonna be involving a
Speaker 1: game with the team that a lot of people like.
Speaker 1: And it's this team that I will tell you about
Speaker 1: right now. It goes like this fits Magic Dolphins. Fits
Speaker 1: Magic Dolphins. Never count them out against Bruton fits Magic Dolphins.
Speaker 1: They're dead to rights. But then you can throw it
Speaker 1: pass without even saying where you're throwing it too. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Raiders secondary, the extra little background, the secondary. Okay, I
Speaker 1: would I would like to take the Miami. It's Chris,
Speaker 1: Just so you know, I'm not just singing because I'm
Speaker 1: a lunatic. I happen to also be a lunatic. But
Speaker 1: I'm singing because if I don't sing the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: song every week on the pod, people crazy. They love it.
Speaker 1: So anyways, let me have Miami against the buff Bills
Speaker 1: over the forty seven and a half and The reason
Speaker 1: is I think there might be a fit sighting again.
Speaker 1: If there is a fit sighting again, then I think
Speaker 1: they can score points against the Bills defense. The Bills
Speaker 1: are extremely good on offense, but they're a little bit
Speaker 1: like Kansas City. They're not great on defense. They give
Speaker 1: up points if you if you're you know, halfway decent
Speaker 1: on offense. So give me the Bills to score even
Speaker 1: against Miami's tough defense. The Bill seem to be able
Speaker 1: to score against everybody. Josh Allen has just taken gigantic
Speaker 1: leaps and bounds from a guy who was basically just
Speaker 1: a runner who couldn't throw to Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you could do everything. The guy looks amazing. So give
Speaker 1: me Bills to score points. And I think if fits
Speaker 1: he comes in, he can lead us to some you know,
Speaker 1: um blindfolded passes for touchdowns against you know, idiot defenses,
Speaker 1: and uh, I think we can go over the forty
Speaker 1: seven and a half there. Uh. You know, Look, it's
Speaker 1: a tough week, but I think if it its magics
Speaker 1: in we'll get some points. Is this the game that
Speaker 1: will determine the Coach of the Year. Brian Flores versus
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. Where's Ron Rivera? Is still the guy? If
Speaker 1: he wins? MM? I don't know. What do you guys
Speaker 1: think I would vote for Sean Payton if I if
Speaker 1: I had a vote, if you had a bote, and
Speaker 1: then my next choice would be Florence Peyton versus for
Speaker 1: Maybe Florence is blowing this by playing to I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's his decision. Oh, I think
Speaker 1: it's his season, and I think it's it's I said
Speaker 1: it like four or five weeks ago. What happens when
Speaker 1: there's a game like it's to make the playoffs or
Speaker 1: not the playoffs? Not to make the playoffs? What will
Speaker 1: he do? Will he stick with his two and thing? Well,
Speaker 1: we got their answer last week. He went to the
Speaker 1: bullpen and he got to it. He's gonna do it again.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Do you remember the Dolphins when
Speaker 1: they had Woodley was the quarterback and they would bring
Speaker 1: in Don Strock when Woodley was screwing it up, never lost.
Speaker 1: The Skins beat him in Super Bowl seventeen. That way
Speaker 1: Woodley started Strock is unbelievable. With the Steelers, Yeah, Woodley
Speaker 1: right up with the Steelers and he was terrible on
Speaker 1: the Steelers. He was horrible. David Woodley started Super Bowl
Speaker 1: seventeen for the Dolphins. Rigo to the House, Joseph Jackson
Speaker 1: Gibbs Super Bowl champion. I can still remember remember where
Speaker 1: I was as an eleven year old in my grandparents
Speaker 1: house in um in Philadelphia when the Dolphins were playing
Speaker 1: the San Diego Chargers. And my favorite play in the
Speaker 1: history of the NFL is when he throws that little
Speaker 1: out passed and they do the picture U back to
Speaker 1: the guide streaking down the sideline. I think it was
Speaker 1: Tony Nathan, you know the what do they call that play?
Speaker 1: Hooking ladder, which is my favorite play. We used to
Speaker 1: do that all the time when we would play school,
Speaker 1: hooking lateral shooting ladders. I thought, alright, so so Christie
Speaker 1: will indulge me. I'll try to do the abridged version
Speaker 1: of this in sixty seconds because I'm curious what Mikey
Speaker 1: and Todd have to say. I think Jon Gruden is
Speaker 1: getting railroaded by the media for his decision to go
Speaker 1: for a field goal. I think it was absolutely the
Speaker 1: right decision. I think it's the most most glaring example
Speaker 1: of people judging by the result, not the process. Nineteen
Speaker 1: seconds left going up a field goal, he has a
Speaker 1: nine win probability. A similar comp to that has only
Speaker 1: happened once. Defeating a team at that point has only
Speaker 1: happened once in the last twenty years. The famous Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers to Richard Rogers play in Green Bay against Detroit
Speaker 1: five years ago. Everybody's focusing on the fact that Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: made the greatest play in the history of mankind with
Speaker 1: his helmet wrenched with mac Holland's open, instead of focusing
Speaker 1: on the fact that they let Derek Carr neil with
Speaker 1: six seconds left on the play clock, and that Damon Arnett,
Speaker 1: who they overdrafted at nineteen been on the flat pattern
Speaker 1: in the same way that Lamar Jackson been on the
Speaker 1: flat pattern against Henry Ruggs in the Raiders Jets game.
Speaker 1: Hate John Gruden for a lot of things, and believe me,
Speaker 1: I do Khalil Mactrade being the first top of the list,
Speaker 1: but I have no problem with him settling for that
Speaker 1: field goal, and everybody's murdering him, and to me, it's
Speaker 1: the biggest example of group think I've ever seen. Am
Speaker 1: I writer? Am I wrong? I'd like to Chris andrews, um,
Speaker 1: I think I just agree with Gil. I think, uh,
Speaker 1: you gotta go get the points, you know. I think
Speaker 1: I think you do you know, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I understand all the things you're saying about the you know,
Speaker 1: all the metrics and all that. I get that, but
Speaker 1: I think you've got to go get the points. And
Speaker 1: I think there's some psychological stuff, uh involved with your
Speaker 1: team that uh, you know, sometimes all the metrics don't
Speaker 1: don't back. And you know, I understand that from from
Speaker 1: Gil's point of view. You know, that's why well you'd
Speaker 1: imagine his uh show might be called a numbers game
Speaker 1: just because of that. That's right. But I think it's
Speaker 1: it's all there's I think there's some emotion involved to it,
Speaker 1: and personally, I think he should have gone for the bet.
Speaker 1: I'll say a few things. I think if Fitzpatrick completes
Speaker 1: the pass down the middle and they get it up
Speaker 1: to the forty five yard line and they try another
Speaker 1: pass and they're left with the Hail Mary and they
Speaker 1: don't score, no one says a word about of course,
Speaker 1: here's the second point. I think they're correct to stop
Speaker 1: at the one on second down because you don't want
Speaker 1: to leave him with a minute forty. I don't care.
Speaker 1: They have no tell. You can't leave him with a
Speaker 1: minute forty. However, once you've run it down to a
Speaker 1: minute and you have your third I think you're supposed
Speaker 1: to try to score the touchdown on third and goal
Speaker 1: from the one, and if you don't, then you kicked
Speaker 1: the field goal and you leave him twenty seconds. But
Speaker 1: I think because you have Waller, you have a good
Speaker 1: chance of making it two. You can go up seven,
Speaker 1: so that the worst result is over time. Dodd, I
Speaker 1: am one thousand million percent with gilt. That's my guy.
Speaker 1: That's shocking. That's by the way. I love. I love
Speaker 1: the tell guilty's wrong. I'm the best. Okay, I love
Speaker 1: telling him he's wrong. But he is the best. He
Speaker 1: is the best to tell over three thousand lifetime. I
Speaker 1: didn't go to Stanford, so I must not be that break.
Speaker 1: But okay, here's the deal. One, whether it's one minute
Speaker 1: to go, one forty to go, what you guys are
Speaker 1: arguing for is get a touchdown and go up by seven.
Speaker 1: So even best case scenario, Mike scenario, there's a minute
Speaker 1: left and you're up by seven or five right, that's
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. So you're saying that there's a
Speaker 1: better percentage chance of winning a game with a minute
Speaker 1: left up by five or seven, then there is with
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds left, the other team has no time out. Nineteen.
Speaker 1: That's another there's four nineteen. But that was what Derek
Speaker 1: Carr I said. If you want to criticize anything, he
Speaker 1: criticized Derek Carr for not taking the final six second. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, obviously Derek car should do that. But
Speaker 1: let's just let's even give you the nineteen. I'll give
Speaker 1: you the nineteen, okay, So now you you what a
Speaker 1: match My point is, So I'm saying, because Gill's right,
Speaker 1: the Car should run around a little bit before he
Speaker 1: fell down. That was that was obviously true. But aside
Speaker 1: from him snapping it at six, he should have even
Speaker 1: run around a little bit and taken a couple more
Speaker 1: seconds off. But even if he doesn't, long at nineteen seconds.
Speaker 1: So now they have the ball at their own twenty
Speaker 1: five with nineteen seconds left and no timeouts. I've watched
Speaker 1: a billion football games. Everybody back to the forty yard line,
Speaker 1: don't let anybody get out of bounds. Throw it over
Speaker 1: the middle for six yards, tackle him. Game over done, Zo,
Speaker 1: you have a much better chance of winning that game
Speaker 1: than if you give another team up five or seven
Speaker 1: with a minute ago. You could score touchdown in a minute. Now.
Speaker 1: It's not likely, but it's let's say there's a ten
Speaker 1: percent chance they get a touchdown. Don't tell me there's
Speaker 1: a ten percent chance they get a field goal if
Speaker 1: you executed properly. But if you let a guy run
Speaker 1: down the sideline so wide open that I mean, is
Speaker 1: this your first football game in your entire life? What
Speaker 1: are you doing? A big white tight end is running
Speaker 1: down the sidelines alone. Uh sorry, it's not the fact
Speaker 1: that he's white, but I just meant he's slow. It's
Speaker 1: a big slow end down the sidelines, running alone with
Speaker 1: no one even near him. What are you doing? It's craziness.
Speaker 1: You've You've earned yourself another year on this podcast with
Speaker 1: that ran right there. But Todd, if they kick and
Speaker 1: the field goal kicker from Miami can kick it from
Speaker 1: the moon. If they kicked the field goal, you lose.
Speaker 1: If they score the touchdown, there's a five does not
Speaker 1: save you, Okay, if you're assuming they missed the two,
Speaker 1: you've got No, I'm saying there's a fifty fifty chance
Speaker 1: they're up seven, and then you can't loose and the
Speaker 1: field is much more condensed once you get down to
Speaker 1: the twenty. It's much harder to score a touchdown than
Speaker 1: it is to move the ball from the twenty to
Speaker 1: the forty. There's just so what you're saying is there's
Speaker 1: more of a chance to get a touchdown from your
Speaker 1: own twenty five with a full minute to play than
Speaker 1: it is to get yourself with the biggest kicker of
Speaker 1: all time. It's also not for sure the kicker can
Speaker 1: make a sixty seven goddamn yarder. What about that, either, Todd.
Speaker 1: That's a good point the cow the Cowboys couldn't do
Speaker 1: it in the playoffs kick in nineteen or to beat Seattle,
Speaker 1: and then in Minnesota couldn't kick an extra point to
Speaker 1: beat Seattle Seattle. Todd, what do you think about the
Speaker 1: the end then of the of the game with the
Speaker 1: coastal Carolina and Liberty and how Liberty did that? That
Speaker 1: was even more wick. I mean, there's similarities there. It
Speaker 1: was amazing that it was surreal that they were happening
Speaker 1: at the same time, and I had Liberty I had
Speaker 1: Liberty plus the points, and I'm like, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be the worst push in the history of mankind. What
Speaker 1: Mike He's referring to is that Liberty had the ball.
Speaker 1: All they had to do was running down kick a
Speaker 1: game winning field goal win as a seven point dog.
Speaker 1: They did, in fact, go down to the ground on
Speaker 1: one down, and then the offensive lineman apparently didn't get
Speaker 1: the memo. On the subsequent play, he tried to push
Speaker 1: the running back in the running back fumbled. Coastal Carolina recovers.
Speaker 1: What's that was the running back's fault? He First of all,
Speaker 1: he while I was even running towards the goal line
Speaker 1: on first down, he did it correctly. He just stopped
Speaker 1: right there. In second down for some reason, he starts
Speaker 1: running forward like a lunatic so that they could try
Speaker 1: to get him into the ends of By the way,
Speaker 1: I lost on both those games. I lost under seven
Speaker 1: and a half. In the Raiders game, which I had
Speaker 1: no business. The score was sixteen all with four minutes
Speaker 1: left in the game. How do you lose that? And
Speaker 1: then the Liberty game, I deserved to lose because I
Speaker 1: took minus five and a half on the end. Game
Speaker 1: like an idiot. But even so, I'm not so sure
Speaker 1: that that kid didn't get dragged into the end zone
Speaker 1: before he fumped out. There was no there was no
Speaker 1: replay to overturn it, but it looked to me like
Speaker 1: he might have actually been in. Maybe maybe. No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we couldn't tell. Chris has got a heart out,
Speaker 1: so we gotta keep going. Here, Christie, your third and
Speaker 1: final pick. Oh, I gotta pick one more? Huh Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. We get to the part what game would
Speaker 1: you like to pass on? I'd like pass on. Uh,
Speaker 1: I gotta go for one more. Can you come back
Speaker 1: to me? Absolutely, Mikey, I'd like to pass on the
Speaker 1: remaining fourteen games, right? Does everybody want to pass on
Speaker 1: the third pick? Well, there's no passing, do you think
Speaker 1: because I gotta win this, there's no passing Packers packers.
Speaker 1: Packers need to win to get the one seat to
Speaker 1: get to buy. Okay, if they you end up in
Speaker 1: a three way tie with Seattle in New Orleans, Seattle
Speaker 1: gets the ones. Listen. If I'm being authentic, that's my
Speaker 1: third pick two, so which means our our pick will
Speaker 1: come down to Pittsburgh for me, and you're total total?
Speaker 1: Which is it was question? Okay, green Bay is my
Speaker 1: number three. I just think I've never seen more effortless
Speaker 1: football than what I see from Aaron Rodgers right now.
Speaker 1: I've seen better football. There have been better teams, but
Speaker 1: I've never seen someone who seems to have so much
Speaker 1: command of the field without any worry whatsoever pre snap
Speaker 1: post snap. He's all good, he's all good about it's
Speaker 1: I've got green Bay minus five and a half? Is
Speaker 1: that what the number is? Taught? I have minus? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's some yeah, mostly five and a half. Okay, Todd
Speaker 1: your number three, third and final. So wait, Mikey and
Speaker 1: Giller both green Bay minus five and a half. So
Speaker 1: Mike and I come down the game. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to go Stealers too, but I'm a little worried about
Speaker 1: our football team one half, and Philip Rivers, being a
Speaker 1: very good, kind evangelical who likes to give charity to
Speaker 1: other people, giving us a football game doesn't in any
Speaker 1: way make me feel like the Pittsburgh Stillers can hang
Speaker 1: in as that football game. Even though I do like
Speaker 1: your whole idea of plus nine and a half, I
Speaker 1: think they probably won't cover that. But I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: a different game than that I will do for my
Speaker 1: third pick. I will do the under fifty and a
Speaker 1: half in the Green Bay Bears game. And here's the deal.
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know what the weather is
Speaker 1: gonna be, but it is Chicago. I mean, it's Tuesday.
Speaker 1: It's hard to know exactly what the weather is gonna
Speaker 1: be on Sunday, but it is Chicago. And from what
Speaker 1: I've heard in December and Chicago, it has a tendency
Speaker 1: to be a bit nippy. So you've got the possibility
Speaker 1: of very cold. Maybe not this week, who knows. The
Speaker 1: point is, the Bears have gotten healthy on offense, not
Speaker 1: against the real teams. Look at these teams that they're
Speaker 1: scoring points on. Everyone's like, wow, Trubisky might actually be
Speaker 1: a quarterback. He scored forty one against Jacksonville. Me and you,
Speaker 1: Gil could score forty one against Jacksonville. He scored thirty
Speaker 1: three against Minnesota. It's no longer the good Minnesota defense.
Speaker 1: Houston they scored thirty six. Houston doesn't have a defense.
Speaker 1: Detroit they got thirty in a lost. Detroit has no defense.
Speaker 1: They got twenty five against Green Bay, but two of
Speaker 1: those were touchdowns. When they were down a zillion points
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. They have not done this against
Speaker 1: a real defense. Now, all of a sudden, it's the
Speaker 1: last game of the year and they've got to play
Speaker 1: a real team Green Bay. I'm not saying they're vaunted
Speaker 1: on defense, but they're decent team on defense. I don't
Speaker 1: see Trubisky doing all this ridiculous. I'm a good quarterback
Speaker 1: stuff against Green Bay and the Bears have a decent defense,
Speaker 1: So maybe they can hold Rogers to twenty eight or something.
Speaker 1: So here's the deal, one Packers, it's under fifty and
Speaker 1: a half. Give me under fifty and a half. I
Speaker 1: do not believe in Troubinsky, and I do believe this
Speaker 1: is a Troubinsky mirage. Green Bay has the number one
Speaker 1: seat on their racket. They win, and they got to
Speaker 1: buy in the NFC christ number three. Okay, I am
Speaker 1: gonna go for the New York Football Jets. I don't
Speaker 1: what are you gonna give me? Plus three is what
Speaker 1: I have it on my board right now. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: looks like the predominant, you know, I mean Bilichick and
Speaker 1: I don't what's he gonna do? I mean, Cam Newton
Speaker 1: cannot play football. And he had some of those passes
Speaker 1: that were just so far wide open that he usually underthrew.
Speaker 1: Can't play Stidham. I'm not sure what Stidham can do either.
Speaker 1: I know he was actually a big recruit coming out
Speaker 1: of high school, but you know that that's uh seven
Speaker 1: years ago. Uh And he does he look like he's enthused.
Speaker 1: I know he threw down the phone and threw down
Speaker 1: the clipboard and all that. I don't know. And this
Speaker 1: just would be so much like the Jets to win
Speaker 1: out and then all of a sudden, say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I think Adam Gaze might be the right work. Look
Speaker 1: at the way we finished the year, and he deserves
Speaker 1: another year. And this would just be so typical of
Speaker 1: the Jets franchise to do exactly that. And so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take the Jets plus three over the path. Bills
Speaker 1: became the first division opponent of the Patriots in the
Speaker 1: last nineteen years last night to sweep the Patriots two
Speaker 1: games in two games the last nineteen years. And the
Speaker 1: Bills blow out of the Patriots last night, didn't didn't
Speaker 1: it look like Chris that the Bills were having all
Speaker 1: their fun last night and now they were going to
Speaker 1: shut it down this week. I mean, they were letting
Speaker 1: him do all kinds of things run against him, trick
Speaker 1: play and all this when they were way up on
Speaker 1: doing it. That looked like that was their partying regular
Speaker 1: season shot with their normal offense. Well, if you remember,
Speaker 1: and I think it was the Bills. I couldn't. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong. When Bilichick was up while the up
Speaker 1: winning like fifty six nothing or something like that, and
Speaker 1: somebody complained after the game, like jeez, come on, he said, well,
Speaker 1: if you don't like it, to go out and stop.
Speaker 1: That was against Joe Gibbs two point oh in the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins, and you never forgave him for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then yesterday he was kind of pissing and moaning
Speaker 1: for the same thing that the Bills were doing this
Speaker 1: to him. You know. I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people want to take out some revenge. I'm Doe Belichick,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I don't know if the Jets
Speaker 1: can actually do it, but I think you know, listen,
Speaker 1: like I said, I just see the scenario with the
Speaker 1: Jets doing exactly what I said they're gonna do. It
Speaker 1: seems like a typical thing for what a Jet franchise
Speaker 1: would do. And I don't know. I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: if you're a uh, if you're one of the Patriots,
Speaker 1: you gotta can't wait to get out of this season,
Speaker 1: you know, just fold up your tent and get out
Speaker 1: of here. And at least the Jets and they're they're
Speaker 1: playing hard for whatever reason. I don't know it's because
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze or whatever, but you know, you know, they're
Speaker 1: they're playing decent football all of a sudden. I just
Speaker 1: I think the past just kind of don't show up
Speaker 1: this week. I really do. I think the Chargers end
Speaker 1: up with Anthony Lynn because of a late season surch
Speaker 1: they may end up seven and nine the Chargers. They're
Speaker 1: gonna keep Anthony My my producer for a numbers game,
Speaker 1: young Jason con who's behind the scenes here, has a
Speaker 1: chair at Stidham to win the NL and and when
Speaker 1: the NFL m VP ticket from this year, I shot,
Speaker 1: never you never know, you're judging humans. Voting could go
Speaker 1: that way. You never know. Um. I wanted us to
Speaker 1: post Sarah Fuller as for Heisman, but the guys weren't
Speaker 1: doing I think I think sheould get plenty of votes.
Speaker 1: I mean the perfectly executed kick off at an extra point.
Speaker 1: Let's not get political, Amy Coney Barrett, what's political I'm talking.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you. Was because he just lead. She
Speaker 1: was SEC player of the week, the best she was
Speaker 1: player of the week, and the best conference in college football. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's silliness. And we all know it's silliness. And we're
Speaker 1: not going to get into why it's silliness. We all
Speaker 1: know it's silliness. Thank you, all right, Teaser teasers of
Speaker 1: the week, because we gotta keep it moving. Christie, do
Speaker 1: you want us to come back to you at the end. No,
Speaker 1: I I actually had my teaser ready. I know we
Speaker 1: were going three deep on that. By the way, I
Speaker 1: just got a text from the book. Uh, the Bills
Speaker 1: are assumed to be sitting a lot of players. That
Speaker 1: numbers dropped four and a half to three, four and
Speaker 1: a half to three now on the Buffalo billiards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just checked. It looks like it's pretty much everywhere gone.
Speaker 1: This is totally the information week, just all about info.
Speaker 1: How about any game guilt? How about in game two? Yeah? Air,
Speaker 1: but I said this week, you gotta move on Air.
Speaker 1: You just got to can't help it. That's what you told. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my teaser of the week. Okay, I'm gonna use the
Speaker 1: Steelers again plus fifteen and a half and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go for the Broncos plus eight and a half. Um,
Speaker 1: you know the Raiders they you know once again. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I like a home team in this spot.
Speaker 1: I think these home dogs on and you know, I
Speaker 1: know this this year is squirrely. How many times we
Speaker 1: use that we're still I think we're still on the under,
Speaker 1: but it's very squirrely. But I think you know the Raiders, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, they've had the rug pulled out from under them.
Speaker 1: And you know the Broncos Fan Joe's announced that he
Speaker 1: will that they will retain Fanjio. He'll be back next year. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, so you're getting over a touchdown at home.
Speaker 1: You know Todd mentioned we could have some weather. I
Speaker 1: haven't really checked that out yet, but Denver could be
Speaker 1: very volatile. Uh, even with weather patterns predicted five days
Speaker 1: in advance, so you have a chance for some weather.
Speaker 1: I would definitely, Uh, I take the Broncos plus eight
Speaker 1: and a half. Get over a Touchbakey. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the Vikings down to one against this helpless Lions team.
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna take the Seahawks down to a pick. God, God, wait,
Speaker 1: I'm getting down make these things. Mikey is Minnesota minus
Speaker 1: one and Seahawks. Actually you get Seahawks plus a half. Well,
Speaker 1: if it's a tie. If it's a tie, you end
Speaker 1: up winning. Mikey, would you like to win on a tie? Okay? What? Uh?
Speaker 1: My My teaser is the New York Football Jets plus
Speaker 1: the nine. And I almost made it as one of
Speaker 1: my picks as well. I loved everything Chris had to say.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Stidham is not a quarterback. Last night,
Speaker 1: when I saw Stidham come in, I immediately went under
Speaker 1: fifty six immediately. I've watched it him a thousand times.
Speaker 1: The guy is terrible. He is not a real quarterback.
Speaker 1: And Cam Newton forget him. We don't even know what
Speaker 1: he is. But Stidham is a joke. I mean, he
Speaker 1: is embarrassing. He's Duck Hodges bad. That's how bad stid
Speaker 1: Him is. He's Duck Hodges. Okay, stid Him is not
Speaker 1: even getting you backdoor touchdowns. If you can't get backdoor
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the NFL, down thirty eight to nine against
Speaker 1: the team that doesn't even care. You can't score when
Speaker 1: the team's trying on defense. And guess what, the Jets
Speaker 1: are still trying, folks. They're still trying. All you have
Speaker 1: to know is they're still trying. So I want the
Speaker 1: Jets plus the nine against Stidham or whoever whatever other
Speaker 1: garbage quarterback the Patriots throw out there. Give me the
Speaker 1: Jets plus nine and give me the Giants plus sign
Speaker 1: it's in all New York teaser for me, the Giants
Speaker 1: plus the nine because I already talked about why I
Speaker 1: like the Giants and the Jets plus nine. It's not
Speaker 1: to be New York, New York dot dot dot dot
Speaker 1: dot dot teaser. New York, New York Jets, Pittsburgh Steelers, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: Jets and Giants. I have no. I got Jets and Steelers. Okay, Jets, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jets for all the reasons you state. I just don't
Speaker 1: see how a New England team as more abund as
Speaker 1: they are on offense and Jets to play every week
Speaker 1: to win. And then Steelers, I already have them a
Speaker 1: t s. I'm definitely taking in the teaser there, alright.
Speaker 1: Final two questions, which are the big favorites is the
Speaker 1: most likely Blues out right this week? UH six and
Speaker 1: a half point favorites or Greater Tampa Bay six and
Speaker 1: a half point favorites against Atlanta. Tampa Bay trying to
Speaker 1: jockey for the number five seed so they can play
Speaker 1: the NFC East winner at the number four seed Minnesota
Speaker 1: UH six and a half seven point favorites, somewhere in
Speaker 1: that pocket at Detroit Cleveland now nine and a half
Speaker 1: hosting Pittsburgh Baltimore eleven and a half or twelve at Cincinnata,
Speaker 1: UH Tennessee seven and a half at Houston and New
Speaker 1: Orleans six and a half at Kaka Laki. Chrissie most
Speaker 1: likely lose out right. Chris Andrews most likely to lose
Speaker 1: out right? Yeah, I was Oh, we didn't hear you.
Speaker 1: I was stuck there from love. I've been stuck for
Speaker 1: about a minute there. What was the question, Which of
Speaker 1: those big favorites is the most likely to lose out right? Well,
Speaker 1: I hope I dodged that bullet. Whatever it is. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure which way we're going yet. Which favorite most
Speaker 1: likely to lose out right? Six and a half points
Speaker 1: Greater Okay, I would say the Bucks. Um, the Bucks
Speaker 1: interesting six and a half, you know, I mean Atlanta
Speaker 1: Atlanta plays close, place, close, place close. One of these
Speaker 1: days they're gonna hit a thirty nine yard field goal
Speaker 1: for uh something like that, and uh, you know, I'm still,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is, I'm still not a sold
Speaker 1: on the Bucks. Um. You know, they seem to have
Speaker 1: come alive certainly after the after there by, but I
Speaker 1: still have some question marks here. And I think if
Speaker 1: we had to find one that has a chance to lose,
Speaker 1: I would say most likely Tampa Baye. Atlanta has lost
Speaker 1: four straight, all by five points. Are fewer. Seventh loss
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs in a in a one possession game.
Speaker 1: The loss of the Chiefs was their seventh in one
Speaker 1: possession games this year. Mike, I agree with the Bucks,
Speaker 1: and I think their defense is not as good as
Speaker 1: we think. We remember that game against Green Bay where
Speaker 1: they intercepted and harassed Rogers, and we keep thinking about
Speaker 1: that ceiling in our mind. But it's defense. On a
Speaker 1: weekend week out by Matt Ryan moved the ball up
Speaker 1: and down the field against him in Atlanta a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. At least he did in the first
Speaker 1: half of the that game. So uh, and and without
Speaker 1: that questionable spot where they moved the ball forward that
Speaker 1: they might have a shot to win on the end.
Speaker 1: That I mean, I'm probably with you, guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: if it just if I was going to go with
Speaker 1: another one that that that looks like something, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be totally shocked out of my brains if the Texans
Speaker 1: pulled an upset. Even though the Texans are abysmal, the
Speaker 1: Titans have no defense, so the only they have to
Speaker 1: win by scoring a zillion points. What happens if, you know,
Speaker 1: for some reason they get some turnovers or something. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but I wouldn't shock
Speaker 1: me if the Titans lost third time in the past
Speaker 1: four games, and the Texans have had a chance to
Speaker 1: win or tie a game late but lost the fumble instead.
Speaker 1: That's what they did against the Bengals this last week.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Shawn's playing or not. Why
Speaker 1: would you plu him. I'll say, Tampa Bay. I think
Speaker 1: it's Tampa Bay for all you know, Again, Atlanta, they're
Speaker 1: in every game. Tampa defense remembered Gil a number of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I kept saying the defense on Atlanta is good.
Speaker 1: They held, they hold what's his name? The seventeen points
Speaker 1: aero shots corroborates it with these d b O A
Speaker 1: final question, then, Chrissie, if you had to play every
Speaker 1: single one of these games in the bizarre world on
Speaker 1: the line, but you've got one free pass, you could
Speaker 1: pick like ten games this week, what would your number
Speaker 1: one choice be? Well, my number one choice would be
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and the Rams, because I mean the Rams,
Speaker 1: we know who the quarterback is. I have no idea
Speaker 1: if he could play at all. And uh, the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Even if you do have a Kyler Murray um, so
Speaker 1: much of his game is, you know, his ability to
Speaker 1: scramble and create kind of on the run outside the pocket.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that ability is gonna be compromised.
Speaker 1: I imagine it would be this week even if he does.
Speaker 1: Way if he doesn't play, You've got some guy that
Speaker 1: I've never even heard of in my life before this show.
Speaker 1: So that would be the game that I would stay awaiver.
Speaker 1: That's my game too. I feel like every one of
Speaker 1: my answers on this podcast this week have been someone
Speaker 1: already stated them with the exception of maybe one. That's
Speaker 1: how weird. Week seventeen is Mikey Chargers Chiefs. Chargers Chiefs,
Speaker 1: Chiefs should be sitting everybody. I'll go with Chargers Chiefs too.
Speaker 1: You know you've got the Lyn factor and you've got
Speaker 1: the Who's playing factor, So just keep me out of that. Okay,
Speaker 1: Sorry to everybody. Weeks seventeen is odd. We did our best.
Speaker 1: Mikey and I going for the regular season uh title
Speaker 1: here Todd trying to preserve his teaser title. Chrissie, thank you,
Speaker 1: Chris Andrews. Everybody, my mishbocha from the South Point Hotel Casino.
Speaker 1: He's got a radio gig. He's gotta get to the
Speaker 1: name of the book. Then one day. Wait before Chris leaves. Chris,
Speaker 1: how are you doing health wise? I haven't seen you
Speaker 1: in a long time. I'm doing great. Thanks. Yeah, everything
Speaker 1: everything's been really good. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks. I'm glad
Speaker 1: to hear that. Thank you for asking that, Todd. I
Speaker 1: should have asked that, but I see Chrissy every week
Speaker 1: where I talked to Chris every week, so I didn't
Speaker 1: even answer. But for the megapod audience, that's a fine question.
Speaker 1: Don't don't go buy my book after I'm dead, you know. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's say you buy it now or I could you know,
Speaker 1: I think I get about three bucks a shot. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a very honest, very honest promotion of it. I heard,
Speaker 1: I heard, Chris that your book had to go into
Speaker 1: another printing with the number bill Ad has required from
Speaker 1: all the new visa and subscriptions. Uh, we've had a
Speaker 1: couple of printings, you know. So, I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: been good, it's been good. All right, Chrissy, go do
Speaker 1: your thing. You got a gig. I appreciate it. Thank
Speaker 1: you for doing Week seventeen, and I'll talk to you Monday.
Speaker 1: Well we won't do guessing lines, but you'll start the
Speaker 1: show with me, okay, for for every wild card week?
Speaker 1: All right, Chris Andrews, everybody, good luck, Thank you, Mikey,
Speaker 1: thank you, Todd, good luck to Chris. And survivor. Good luck, Yes,
Speaker 1: good luck and survivor. So you in your twenty six
Speaker 1: partners can split it. Yeah, I can get out of this.
Speaker 1: And that's nice that you guys are having everybody over
Speaker 1: here to sweat that out. I would never attend that.
Speaker 1: Gotta be kidding me. I'm always going to come if
Speaker 1: he was doing it all right. Good luck to everybody
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Speaker 1: We will have a megapod throughout the playoffs. Wild Card
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