WEBVTT - More of the Ig Nobel Prize Winners

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from iHeartRadio. Be there

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an executive producer with iHeartRadio. And how the tech

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<v Speaker 1>that work trip, I was starting to get sick, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was hopeful that it was nothing more than maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some congestion or whatever. But no, despite all the wearing

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<v Speaker 1>of masks and hand washing and all that stuff, I

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<v Speaker 1>still got COVID. It's no joke, y'all. Do your best

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<v Speaker 1>to protect yourself when you're out there. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>it can seem lame to wear a mask this long

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<v Speaker 1>after the pandemic, but it can make a difference. Like

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<v Speaker 1>my case is not as bad as it could be.

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<v Speaker 1>My guess is that wearing the mask helped at least

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I didn't wear the mask the whole

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<v Speaker 1>time because I had to participate in some events and

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<v Speaker 1>do some recordings and stuff, So it's entirely possible it

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<v Speaker 1>was during one of those instances where I contracted it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I've been spending the last several days isolated

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<v Speaker 1>in my office at home because fortunately my partner does

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<v Speaker 1>not have it. So anyway, all that's just to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I love y'all and I want you to be safe.

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<v Speaker 1>So be careful out there, to your best, to just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take care of yourself. I know not everyone

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<v Speaker 1>wants to wear a mask, and I get it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to be around for a while, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to my show or not, I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to be around, So just be careful. But enough of

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<v Speaker 1>all that sappy stuff. Last Wednesday, although now it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like that was an eternity ago, I published an episode

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<v Speaker 1>about the ig Nobel Prize, So this joke set of

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<v Speaker 1>awards is a spoof of the more prestigious Nobel Prize, that,

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<v Speaker 1>of course was established from the wealth of a dynamite

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<v Speaker 1>gap named Alfred Nobel, the guy who invented dynamite. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>no Bell wanted his legacy to be more associated with

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating human achievement rather than blowing stuff up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Fast and Furious franchise, because that's all about family,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least that's what I'm told. I haven't seen them. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>The Ignobel Prizes grew out of one satirical science journal

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<v Speaker 1>called the Journal of Irreproducible Results, and then later migrated

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<v Speaker 1>to a second satirical science journal called the Annals of

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<v Speaker 1>Improbable Research. Mark Abrahams, who at different times helmed each

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<v Speaker 1>of those publications, serves as the Master of Ceremonies. He's

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<v Speaker 1>also been called the Commander of Comedy, and Abrahams likes

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<v Speaker 1>to reference the prizes as something that first makes you laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>then it makes you think. Now. Some Ignobel Prize winners

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<v Speaker 1>received the award for seemingly spending a great deal of

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<v Speaker 1>time and effort studying something that, at least on the surface,

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<v Speaker 1>does sound like it matters that much like why would

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<v Speaker 1>you even bother looking into that? Others can sometimes receive

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<v Speaker 1>the award as a kind of raz from the scientific community,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like almost like a for shame kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, the former US Vice President Dan Quayle received

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen ninety one ig Nobel for Education because he

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrated quote the need for science education end quote. That

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<v Speaker 1>was just a snarky way of saying dan Quayle's own

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<v Speaker 1>command of science was somewhat lacking. But anyway, in that

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<v Speaker 1>last episode, I left off at two thousand and five. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about a few more winners who

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<v Speaker 1>received an ig Nobel Prize for stuff that relates to tech,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously not all the prizes do. In fact, most

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<v Speaker 1>of them don't. They do all relate around things like

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<v Speaker 1>science and peace and literature, kind of a reflection of

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<v Speaker 1>the real Nobel Prizes, but in a very cheeky, tongue

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<v Speaker 1>in cheek kind of way. Now, one of the ones

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<v Speaker 1>I want to mention next. It requires me to go

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<v Speaker 1>back a bit, because, like I said, I left off

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<v Speaker 1>around two thousand and five in the last one, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's one where I need to go back to two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand because the person that I really didn't mention. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I briefly gave a nod toward this person, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they even named him was Andre Geiin,

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<v Speaker 1>who with Sir Michael Barry, earned the Ignobel Prize for

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<v Speaker 1>Physics back in two thousand. But what garnered them such

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<v Speaker 1>an honor, Well, it was for a scientific experiment that

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<v Speaker 1>involved the use of magnets to levitate frogs. And while

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<v Speaker 1>that description is technically true and accurate, it doesn't tell

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<v Speaker 1>the whole story obviously, So Gime is a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting person in that he likes to do exploratory

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<v Speaker 1>experimentation to just learn new stuff, just to try new

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<v Speaker 1>things and see what happens, Like I wonder what would

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<v Speaker 1>happen if we this to that, and then he tries it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the story he tells is that one day he

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<v Speaker 1>was walking through the lab late one night when his

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<v Speaker 1>eyes beheld an eerie sight. I mean, with his spooky season,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I can quote the monster mash. Now, he

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<v Speaker 1>was walking through the lab and he had this huge

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<v Speaker 1>like electromagnet device, and the coil of the electromagnet creates

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a cylinder, right like you've got an empty

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<v Speaker 1>cylinder in there, and he thought, I wonder what happens

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<v Speaker 1>if I pour water into that cylinder. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a very expensive piece of equipment, and he actually says like,

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<v Speaker 1>without even really thinking about and certainly without using any restraint,

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to try it out. He turned on the electromagnet,

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<v Speaker 1>which was extremely powerful, and he poured some water in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well water has a very weak magnetic property to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not really noticeable most of the time. But he

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<v Speaker 1>was using a very very strong electromagnet and perhaps that

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic property of water is one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>has set up a lot of pseudoscientific discussion about water,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the idea of water having some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of molecular memory and that leads to things like homeopathy.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not really what he was looking at. He

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, I wonder what happened. And what happened

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<v Speaker 1>was that the water kind of stalled as it was

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<v Speaker 1>pouring into the cylinder that this electromagnet had sort of created,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he was seeing that the water would beat

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<v Speaker 1>up into little spheres and float, and you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>frogs have a lot of water in them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So he tried putting a frog in essentially an electromagnet,

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<v Speaker 1>where like again, the electromagnet forms a cylinder, and by

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<v Speaker 1>putting the frog there, the frog floated right there because

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<v Speaker 1>the electromagnet was generating enough of a magnetic field to

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<v Speaker 1>levitate the frog to keep him or it, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>floating within that little cylinder. I actually saw a video

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<v Speaker 1>of this. It looked like the frog was on one

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<v Speaker 1>of those parabolic flights, you know, the vomit comet, the

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<v Speaker 1>aircraft that goes up in big arcs and simulates microgravity,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lily the frog was in one of those also

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seem to be particularly happy about it. Can't say

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<v Speaker 1>I blame it anyway. This odd experiment actually contributed to

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<v Speaker 1>science beyond the fact you know that if you use

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<v Speaker 1>a strong enough magnet you can levitate water and or

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<v Speaker 1>a frog, because Geime started to dedicate a small amount

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<v Speaker 1>of his time around ten percent according to his own accounting,

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<v Speaker 1>toward conducting weird moonshot experiments. He said it was the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff that probably wouldn't be likely to result

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<v Speaker 1>in anything important, but if it did, it could potentially

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<v Speaker 1>be a game changer. As it turned out, he was right,

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<v Speaker 1>because you see, Geime was also involved in the research

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<v Speaker 1>that led to the discovery of graphene. So, graphene is

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<v Speaker 1>a sheet of carbon atoms. It's a sheet that's just

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<v Speaker 1>one atom thick. Right, you could have billions of atoms

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<v Speaker 1>in width and length, but it's only one atom thick.

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<v Speaker 1>Guayman's colleagues used an ordinary pencil which has graphite that's

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<v Speaker 1>a form of carbon, and they use some sticky tape,

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<v Speaker 1>and with the sticky tape and the graphite, they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to isolate graphene from the graphite. Well, graphene is

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<v Speaker 1>also the basis for things like carbon nanotubes. A carbon

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<v Speaker 1>nanotube is just a sheet of carbon atoms that have

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<v Speaker 1>been rolled up kind of burrito style. And the way

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<v Speaker 1>you roll it up, the direction that you roll the

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<v Speaker 1>graphene so that you know the way the atoms align

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<v Speaker 1>with each other, that actually determines the physical properties of

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<v Speaker 1>the carbon nanotubes. You know, you roll them one way

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<v Speaker 1>and the carbon nanotube might act like an insulator. You

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<v Speaker 1>roll them a different way, could act like a conductor.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of thing. It's really cool stuff, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things that's like constantly referenced as going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the basis of the next generation of technological revolutions.

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<v Speaker 1>We've already done a ton of stuff with like graphene

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<v Speaker 1>and carbon nanotubes since this discovery. Anyway, it means that

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty ten, Geime and his colleagues would win the

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<v Speaker 1>Nobel Prize for their experimental work in isolating graphene, which

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<v Speaker 1>means that Geime would become the first person to ever

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<v Speaker 1>win an ig Nobel Prize and then later win a

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<v Speaker 1>Nobel Prize. All Right, so now we've done with the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that I forgot to cover in the last episode,

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<v Speaker 1>we can jump back to two thousand and five. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this next one isn't really tech related, but I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feel the need to mention it because of how

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<v Speaker 1>wild it is. Back in the nineteen thirties, New Zealand

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<v Speaker 1>had an exploding trousers problem. If you're a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast Ridiculous History, you might already be aware of this,

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<v Speaker 1>because they actually did an epist sod about it back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty, which disappointed me. Because you may know this.

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<v Speaker 1>I occasionally show up on Ridiculous History as a character

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<v Speaker 1>known as the Quiztor, and when I came across this

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<v Speaker 1>while researching the Ignobel Prize, I thought, Oh, this would

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<v Speaker 1>be great to do in a Quiztor segment. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I did a quick search and found out, oh, they

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<v Speaker 1>already covered this years ago. Anyway, this all has to

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<v Speaker 1>do in New Zealand's Department of Agriculture. The Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Agriculture was giving recommendations to New Zealand farmers to use

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<v Speaker 1>a chemical compound called sodium chlorate as a weed killer.

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<v Speaker 1>The New Zealand farmers were transitioning away from herding sheep

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<v Speaker 1>to herding cattle instead, But the sheep had been eating

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<v Speaker 1>an invasive weed, and when they started switching to the cattle,

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<v Speaker 1>those weeds were starting to grow out of control. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Agriculture says use the sodium chlorate to

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<v Speaker 1>kill off those weeds. However, sodium chlorate is extremely flammable,

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<v Speaker 1>like explosively amable, so naturally as farmers would use the stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>some of it would end up getting soaked in on

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<v Speaker 1>their trousers. So one such farmer, a fellow named Richard Buckley,

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<v Speaker 1>not the famed fashion designer I should add, was drying

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<v Speaker 1>his sodium chlorate soaked trousers in front of a fire

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<v Speaker 1>when he observed those pants began to explode like like,

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<v Speaker 1>there were a series of explosions within the pants. Once again,

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<v Speaker 1>I am reminded of the Fast and Furious franchise, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least as much as I know about it based

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<v Speaker 1>off trailers and the podcast the worst idea of all time. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Buckley wasn't the only farmer in New Zealand with exploding pants.

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<v Speaker 1>Some others, unfortunately, were wearing their trousers when they caught fire,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you can imagine that had disastrous and tragic results. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>but a fellow named James Watson wrote a scholarly article

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<v Speaker 1>examining this period in New Zealand history, and he called

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<v Speaker 1>it the Significance of mister Richard Buckley's Exploding Trousers Reflections

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<v Speaker 1>on an aspect of Technological Change in New Zealand's Dairy

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<v Speaker 1>Farming Between the World Wars. Pretty wordy title. The journal

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<v Speaker 1>called Agricultural History published this article. Now, as that title

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<v Speaker 1>actually points out, this is a case of technological change,

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<v Speaker 1>and the change didn't arrive simply for change's sake. There

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<v Speaker 1>were multiple factors that drove this change, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a valuable lesson to pick up. Often we can

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<v Speaker 1>reduce technological advancement as if it were almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>natural process that if you just wait over time, tech

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<v Speaker 1>gets better. But obviously tech isn't some sort of biological

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<v Speaker 1>creature following an evolutionary path. Technology advances because people advance it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the reasons for going in a certain direction with

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<v Speaker 1>technology are complicated and diverse and external. But by understanding

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<v Speaker 1>those driving forces, we can better understand why technology went

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<v Speaker 1>one way rather than another, and it might even open

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<v Speaker 1>up an opportunity to develop technology in a different way. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about some more ig Nobel Prize winners. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. We're still in the year two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 1>That was also the year that the quote unquote Internet

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<v Speaker 1>Entrepreneurs of Nigeria received an ig Nobel Prize in Literature,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically for the creation of the Nigerian Prince scam. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this does relate to tech because this is a subset

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<v Speaker 1>of scams that have been around for ages. Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a new idea, but the Internet and the popularity

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<v Speaker 1>of email really had them proliferate and become widespread. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever heard of the Nigerian Prince scam, or

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes just the Nigerian scam, or I think sometimes the

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<v Speaker 1>four nineteen scam, then this is what that refers to.

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<v Speaker 1>And in case you have never heard about this, here's

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<v Speaker 1>how the scam works. The scammers will send out waves

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<v Speaker 1>of emails to potential targets and the email will claim

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<v Speaker 1>that the target, your mark, the person you're hoping to trick,

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<v Speaker 1>has the chance to make a boatload of money if

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<v Speaker 1>they just help the scammer out. So all they have

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<v Speaker 1>to do is put up a relatively small amount of

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<v Speaker 1>their money, and then the scammers say they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>use that small amount of money to unlock a big

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<v Speaker 1>old honkin' wad of cash, and then they will share

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<v Speaker 1>or even give that cash to the target. And so

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit of money, you're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>an enormous payout. And the particulars vary depending on the

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<v Speaker 1>person who's sending out the scam, but the Nigerian prince

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<v Speaker 1>version typically frames the issue as this. They say that

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<v Speaker 1>a person of very high status, such as a prince

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<v Speaker 1>of Nigeria, has temporarily lost access to their wealth. It

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<v Speaker 1>may be due to political unrest something like that. Often

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<v Speaker 1>it's that the person of high status has now been

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<v Speaker 1>thrown in jail and they need some help in order

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<v Speaker 1>to get out. And there's usually some other details that

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<v Speaker 1>will go into this as well to kind of try

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<v Speaker 1>and play upon the target's compassion. So maybe they might say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>the prince's family is in custody and their lives are

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<v Speaker 1>at risk, they're under threat, and so if you can help,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can put this small amount of money forward,

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<v Speaker 1>that will be enough for the prince to use to

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<v Speaker 1>do things like I don't know, post bail or to

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<v Speaker 1>bribe officials to get out of prison, and that once

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<v Speaker 1>they do, they will regain access to their wealth, they

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<v Speaker 1>will be able to rescue their family, and they'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to reward the target by giving a huge share

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<v Speaker 1>of the wealth to the target. So obviously this is

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<v Speaker 1>just a scam. There is no prince in danger, there's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly no huge amount of wealth that will be shared

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<v Speaker 1>with the person. So if the target falls for the scheme,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll discover that the only thing that happens if they

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<v Speaker 1>wire the money to whatever account is attached to this scam,

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that happens is that their bank account

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<v Speaker 1>will go down. So the two thousand and five Ignobel

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<v Speaker 1>Prize for Literature is cheekily applauding the ingenuity of con

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<v Speaker 1>artists as they create stories meant to separate a fool

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<v Speaker 1>from his money. In two thousand and six, Howard Stapleton

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<v Speaker 1>received the Ignobel Prize in Peace for a technological innovation.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Stapleton who created a device meant to repel teenagers.

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually talked about this before. The typical range of

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<v Speaker 1>human hearing spans frequencies as low as twenty that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a very very very low pitch, to as high

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<v Speaker 1>as twenty kill a hurtz, a very high pitch. That's

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<v Speaker 1>typical range for human hearing. Obviously, as individuals go that

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<v Speaker 1>range varies. However, as we age, our range of hearing

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<v Speaker 1>usually starts to narrow. We start to lose the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to hear certain frequencies. Usually it's off the high end,

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<v Speaker 1>so we start losing the ability to hear those higher

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<v Speaker 1>pitches as we get older. That means younger people can

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<v Speaker 1>hear higher pitches that older people can't. And there's the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Stable didn't came up with the idea to use a

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<v Speaker 1>device that generates a very loud, very high pitch, a

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<v Speaker 1>piercing sound. But it's a sound that people of adult

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<v Speaker 1>age are not likely to be able to hear at all.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't even know there was a sound playing, but

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<v Speaker 1>young people would be able to hear it. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>say you're the proprietor of a convenience store and you're

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<v Speaker 1>sick of all these lazy teenagers hanging out in your

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<v Speaker 1>store and loitering. They never buy anything, and they're upsetting

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<v Speaker 1>your paying customers. So you install one of these sound

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<v Speaker 1>generators in your shop, and when the kids are like

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<v Speaker 1>taking up too much time and not buying anything, you

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<v Speaker 1>turn it on. This ends up irritating the teenagers enough

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<v Speaker 1>for them to leave because it's a very loud, high

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<v Speaker 1>pitched sound. You can't hear it because you're an adult,

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<v Speaker 1>but the teens can hear it, so they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they make tracks. Apparently Stapleton was an equal opportunity kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guy, because according to the Ignobel Prize, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a whole page about past winners and they actually explain

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<v Speaker 1>that he also used this concept to design ring tones

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<v Speaker 1>for cell phones that kids would be able to hear

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<v Speaker 1>but adults would not be able to hear, which would

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<v Speaker 1>mean that kids in school could hear when their phone

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<v Speaker 1>got a notification, but their teacher would remain none the

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<v Speaker 1>wiser because it would be a pitch too high for

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<v Speaker 1>them to perceive. Very sneaky. Now it's time for another

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<v Speaker 1>raz Award. This one is a doozy. It's from the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven Peace Prize and it goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the United States Air Force. Y'all, this one is bonkers,

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<v Speaker 1>so okay. In two thousand and seven, as part of

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<v Speaker 1>a Freedom of Information Act request, some researchers got some

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<v Speaker 1>information about the US military that was actually, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even sure how to put this in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>is a valid representation of how I feel about it

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<v Speaker 1>and is also family friendly. Let's just say it was unconventional.

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<v Speaker 1>So the actual story goes back much further because this

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<v Speaker 1>was classified information and otherwise without the Freedom of Information

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<v Speaker 1>Act you would never be able to get access to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the story goes back to the nineteen nineties. So

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<v Speaker 1>apparently back then people at the US Air Force explored

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<v Speaker 1>the possibilities of using chemical warfare, but not chemical warfare

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<v Speaker 1>in the sense of using like deadly chemicals in an

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to poison or to burn or to otherwise cause

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<v Speaker 1>physical harm to enemy combatants. Instead, they were looking for

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<v Speaker 1>chemicals that would alter behavior in combatants in different ways,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as a way to reduce them as a

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<v Speaker 1>threat in war. So imagine like you find a chemical

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<v Speaker 1>that reduces aggression, for example. Well, one of these proposals

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<v Speaker 1>explored the use of quote strong afrodisiacs, especially if the

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<v Speaker 1>chemical also caused homosexual behavior end quote. Now, the media

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<v Speaker 1>ran with this and began to reference the whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>as a quote unquote gay bomb. Now there's no real

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<v Speaker 1>need to dive into how awful all of this is,

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<v Speaker 1>but I used to say that even considering some theoretical

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<v Speaker 1>weapon that would compromise a person's agency to that regard

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<v Speaker 1>raises some really serious questions. It's like saying, what if

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<v Speaker 1>we just roofeed everybody and also somehow turned them gay?

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<v Speaker 1>And it boggles the mind, like the scientific basis for

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<v Speaker 1>such a weapon as flimsy at best. So it ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being just a theoretical discussion because it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like humans act on you know, pheromones or

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<v Speaker 1>aphrodisiacs like this. We're more complicated than that. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>still wild to me that anyone would even consider it

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<v Speaker 1>as a viable weapon. I think it reveals, at the

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<v Speaker 1>very least a pretty strong homophobic tendency. Anyway, congrats on

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<v Speaker 1>winning an Ignobel prize. I guess another two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>seven honoree was Ching Hussey, whose name I am sure

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<v Speaker 1>I have completely butchered. Anyway, he received a patent back

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and one for a quote net trapping

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<v Speaker 1>system for capturing a robber immediately. End quote. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a reminder also that these awards, these Ignobel Prizes, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't always come out the same year that something happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's years later, because you know, people just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>notice the inciting event, or maybe they had not had

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<v Speaker 1>a full appreciation of the impact of that event. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this was for a net trapping system for capturing a

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<v Speaker 1>robber immediately, which is kind of like have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen a film where someone's walking along a forest or

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<v Speaker 1>jungle path and then suddenly they get swept up in

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<v Speaker 1>a big net that then holds them up over the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like that, except this net would actually

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<v Speaker 1>be installed above a point of entry, as the patent explains.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a direct quote from the patent quote. The

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<v Speaker 1>device looks like a storing box and is installed above

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<v Speaker 1>the entrance of the business. When a robbery takes place

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<v Speaker 1>and the system is activated, an infrared detecting device determines

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<v Speaker 1>if a robber is in a zone beneath the storing box.

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<v Speaker 1>A net, a curtain, and a plurality of barriers will

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<v Speaker 1>drop down immediately and simultaneously after a lifting motor is activated.

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<v Speaker 1>The system traps the robber and suspends him above the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote. First of all, robbers could be women. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>not put gender to this, but no. I imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that this invention would replicate a scene found in

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<v Speaker 1>various adventure movies is what prompted the Ignobel designation. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually read this patent yourself if you want to, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to look at what this design actually

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<v Speaker 1>looks like and to debate whether or not it would work,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just go to a patent search site like

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<v Speaker 1>Google has a patent search site, and the US patent

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<v Speaker 1>number for this one is sick million, two hundred nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred and fifty nine. Okay, skipping ahead to two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine, we have a prize in public health

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<v Speaker 1>that went to a trio of inventors Elena Bodner, Rafael Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sandra Margin. They perhaps anticipated the pandemic of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty because their invention was a garment piece of clothing

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<v Speaker 1>that you could quickly separate to create a pair of

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<v Speaker 1>face masks to be worn in situations where a face

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<v Speaker 1>mask might be needed. That garment was a bra. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they invented a brazier that, when removed, could then be

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<v Speaker 1>converted into a couple of face masks, allowing a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of bosom buddies to stay abreast of the situation while

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<v Speaker 1>remaining safe. And they got a patent for it. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to read up on that patent, including to

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<v Speaker 1>see the various sketches of the proposed invention, you can

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<v Speaker 1>search for u US Patent seven million, two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five thousand, six hundred and twenty seven. Personally, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish to thank them for supporting public health while simultaneously

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<v Speaker 1>removing personal support. Okay, I think that's as many juvenile

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<v Speaker 1>jokes as I can get away with without completely alienating

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<v Speaker 1>all of you. I'm sure I've alienated most of you,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of you are still there. I hope we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take another quick break, and then I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>few more Ignobel Prize winners I want to mention before

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<v Speaker 1>we sign off. Okay, we're back now. I only have

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<v Speaker 1>one prize in twenty ten to mention in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's sort of indirectly about technology. The Ignobel Prize

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<v Speaker 1>for Medicine went to a pair of researchers from the

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<v Speaker 1>Netherlands for quote, discovering that symptoms of asthma can be

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<v Speaker 1>treated with a roller coaster ride end quote. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>actual paper that prompted this award has the title roller

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<v Speaker 1>Coaster Asthma when positive emotional stress interferes with disnea perception.

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<v Speaker 1>Nea is new to me, dyspnea. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 1>apnea and things like that, but dispna is hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me to say, and I may I may be pronouncing

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<v Speaker 1>it totally wrong, so that's fair play. But anyway, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is more about the euphoric thrill that you

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<v Speaker 1>get with certain activities can apparently interfere at least with

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<v Speaker 1>our perception of asthma symptoms. If not the actual symptoms,

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<v Speaker 1>are perception of them, which ultimately in our brains kind

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<v Speaker 1>of means the same thing. So it's less about the

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<v Speaker 1>technology itself. It's more about how roller coasters are the

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<v Speaker 1>way to create this euphoric response. But I just love

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of a doctor advising a patient to take

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<v Speaker 1>a trip out to six Flags and ride some roll

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<v Speaker 1>leaue coasters in order to treat their asthma. In twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>some researchers in Japan received the Ignobel Prize in chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>for figuring out quote the ideal density of airborne with

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<v Speaker 1>sabi to awaken sleeping people in case of a fire

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<v Speaker 1>or other emergency end quote. So it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>using with sabi, which you know, you could also think

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<v Speaker 1>of as horse radish. It's a little more complicated than that,

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<v Speaker 1>but similar. You can think of it as sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like smelling salts. But Jonathan, you may say, while this

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<v Speaker 1>is no doubt amusing, what does it have to do

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<v Speaker 1>with technology. Well, my friend, while they took the knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>of this, like they learned what concentration of this smell

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<v Speaker 1>does it take to wake someone up? They then applied

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<v Speaker 1>that in a technology. They created a special type of

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<v Speaker 1>smoke alarm and it emits a synthesized with sabi smell

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<v Speaker 1>upon detecting smoke. Now, some of y'all might think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that seems excessive, why would you do that? But if

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<v Speaker 1>you are hard of hearing, like if you are deaf,

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<v Speaker 1>an audible smoke alarm may not wake you out of

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<v Speaker 1>a sound sleep, and in the event of a fire,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously that creates an urgent situation. So this study, which

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<v Speaker 1>at first sounds absolutely silly, led to the development of

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<v Speaker 1>a technology that potentially could save lives. So they actually

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<v Speaker 1>did some research here. They found out that all but

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<v Speaker 1>one of their test subjects would wake up within two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of the scent reaching them. The one outlier who

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<v Speaker 1>did not wake up within those two minutes happened to

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>be really congested at the time, so it was a

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>nasal blockage, so the wasabi had no means of reaching them.

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>But a pretty ingenious use of technology, like the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of spraying with sabi to synthesize with sabi in this case,

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>but to spray with sabi and wake people up so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can respond to an emergent situation. Just one

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<v Speaker 1>of those kind of weird inventions you wouldn't have necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>thought about. All right, now we're up to twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up is the Ignobel Prize for an invention. I've

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>referenced many times on this show. In fact, I talk

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>about this actually more often I talk about it off

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the show than on the show. Just a couple of

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, while I was trying to record an interview

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>over the Internet, I talked about this. So the prize

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<v Speaker 1>was in the field of acoustics, and it went to

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<v Speaker 1>Katsutaka Kurihara and Kojitsukata for their invention. They called the

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<v Speaker 1>speech jammer. So this is the device that plays back

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>a person's own spoken words at a very small delay.

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<v Speaker 1>So essentially, this device has a microphone which picks up

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<v Speaker 1>a target's speech. Then it has a slight delay device,

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<v Speaker 1>so it just it inserts a digital delay, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it plays back the spe each by a very short

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<v Speaker 1>delay through a speaker system, and it plays it back

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<v Speaker 1>at the person who's making the speech. Now, if you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever had the experience of being in say like you know,

0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>a video call or something like that, and you hear

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<v Speaker 1>yourself on a delay, you know that before long it

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<v Speaker 1>starts to get difficult to continue to speak to make sense.

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>The longer you go, the harder it gets, and you

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<v Speaker 1>might find yourself stumbling over your own words or even

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>saying stuff that isn't words at all. Well, the speech

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>jammer was meant to do this on purpose. The inventors

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>intended it to be used by agencies like law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>So imagine you've got a big crowd that's getting all

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<v Speaker 1>riled up. Maybe there's a charismatic speaker standing on a

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<v Speaker 1>little platform and delivering a rousing speech, and you're worried

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<v Speaker 1>that the crowd is going to become unruly and maybe

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>it'll turn to a riot. Well, then you would use

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the speech jammer, and you would pointed at the person

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>giving the speech, and they would soon find it difficult

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>or maybe even impossible to continue to rally the troops.

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Now you can argue this isn't exactly a noble cause.

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is more of an ignoble one. I guess

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>if you've never experienced this feeling, it really is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit disconcerting. I think a lot of people could actually

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>work through it. Like, I don't think it's as effective

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>as it's always made out to be, at least not

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>for everyone. I've done it myself, and I've seen other

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>people really push through when this is happening. It's just

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>not an ideal situation where you're getting that little bit

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>of a delay and you're in playback and it's causing

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you some issues. In my experience, you can get through.

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>It just takes a lot of effort and it's not pleasant.

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>There's also a great twenty twelve prize in neuroscience for

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<v Speaker 1>the ignobels. I would argue this one was actually extremely important.

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 1>This went to a group of VA searchers who use

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<v Speaker 1>some very sophisticated brain brain activity detection equipment like including

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>an fMRI machine, and they detected brain activity in a

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>dead salmon and as in the fish. And yes, if

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>this were a research project that somehow proved that dead

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<v Speaker 1>fish can have meaningful brain activity throughout the entirety of

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>their bodies, that would be weird. But no, this was

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<v Speaker 1>actually a demonstration to show that without using very careful

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>controls and rigorous scientific discipline, the possibility for false positives.

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Using these types of instruments and the typical types of

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>statistical analysis, false possibility is extremely high. Obviously, this means

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<v Speaker 1>any conclusions that you would draw from such work would

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<v Speaker 1>have to be couched in the fact that the process

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<v Speaker 1>isn't always reliable, that it does require that extreme effort

0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to try and eliminate false positives as much as possible,

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>And if you don't have those strict controls in place,

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>you actually can't be confident in any conclusions you've drawn

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 1>from using that equipment. So it's obvious that deadfish cannot

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 1>have meaningful brain activity. So obviously, if the research suggests otherwise,

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>something has gone wrong, right, Like, you can definitively say

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>this deadfish does not have any brain activity, So that

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>means something has gone wrong in the process, and you

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>can start to take a look at that. It also

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>means that if it's possible to get that kind of

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 1>reaction while you are measuring a dead fish, it brings

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>into question the validity of data from procedures that have

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>actual people involved. What if that was also wrong because

0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the equipment wasn't calibrated correctly or trolled for properly, that

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>brings into question. They're really pointing out you've got to

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>be super careful because otherwise you're drawing conclusions on data

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that might not be reliable. And researchers have been using

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:18.879
<v Speaker 1>fMRI machines, which create images through magnetic resonance, to track

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>brain activity as people do everything from like simple tasks

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>like you know, lifting a cup of liquid, to watching

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>for emotional responses, to various stimuli like watching to see

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>how a brain reacts as a person looks at a

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>different set of photographs. That kind of thing. Now, this

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>information could potentially teach us a lot about how the

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 1>brain works, and clearly could be really useful for practical

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff in the future, like designing brain computer interfaces. Like

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>having that understanding of the brain's workings can mean that

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 1>we could create better brain computer interfaces, which could end

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>up opening up all sorts of opportunities, particularly for people

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>who may not have any way of moving around on

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>their own or communicating outwardly. But these researchers were showing

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:13.320
<v Speaker 1>that any kind of work that is based around this

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>field has to be accompanied by carefully applied strict procedures

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to mitigate the risk of false positives, because otherwise we

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>might end up pursuing a path that actually doesn't lead anywhere.

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's because the way we used, or maybe I

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>should say misused the scientific instruments gave us the wrong

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 1>idea about what was going on in the first place,

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>and we were pursuing something that just didn't exist. It's

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>like we were snipe hunting. The research serves as a warning,

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and I honestly think that's incredibly valuable. It's also good

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 1>for me to remember when I see press releases about

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 1>technology meant to interact with the brain. We should all

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>be critical thinkers about this kind of stuff, and to

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:59.439
<v Speaker 1>remind ourselves that without scientific rigor, we can't really count

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>on result, especially if it's something that just kind of

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>popped up out of nowhere. I'm reminded of all those

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 1>various toys that proclaimed they used brainwave activity to allow

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>you to control something, and a lot of that is

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>questionable at the very least, right, So, yeah, I think

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>this particular Ignobel prize is for something that is genuinely important,

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 1>and I can see it's a perfect example of something

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that first makes you laugh and then makes you think,

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>because the whole thing was precipitated upon the scientists detecting

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.800
<v Speaker 1>brain activity in a dead salmon as a way of

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:42.760
<v Speaker 1>showing how you have to be careful with your scientific process.

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 1>So fantastic prize there, all Right. That wraps up this

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>episode of tech stuff about the Ignobel Prizes up to

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty twelve. Clearly we've got a little bit more than

0:36:56.680 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>a decade left to catch up, so we'll do another

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 1>episode about this not too long from now and really

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 1>focus on the technology angles. Obviously, there are lots of

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>other prizes that were awarded over the years for other categories.

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend you check them out because some of

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 1>them are really interesting. Some of them are just they'll

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>make you scratch your head, and some of them are

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>again those sort of raz awards to say, shame on

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you for doing this, because you made the world worse.

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>There's a few of those in the Ignobel Prizes as well.

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>It also is really amusing to me that a lot

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>of the recipients of the Ignobel Prize will take the

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>effort to attend the ceremony, and often there are Nobel

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Laureates there as well. So it all like seems to

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 1>be done in pretty good humor, and I like that

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot too. I think that's really encouraging. Actually, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're all well. I hope you're all staying safe.

0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm slowly getting better myself. Hopefully in tomorrow's episode i'll

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.439
<v Speaker 1>sound a bit better than I do today, and we'll

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>just be on an upward swing and I'll talk to

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:16.920
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