1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Z Media hellyone, Welcome to this week's Better Offline monologue. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm your host ed Zetron. Sorry I missed last week's 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: monologue everyone, I was sick, and in truth, I'm still 4 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: kind of sick, but the work is important. I also 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: want to thank all of you have sent very kind 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: words via the email inbox and they've read it. I 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: really do appreciate you so much, and actually that's a 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: good place to start. Everything's rough. As you know, you've 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 1: seen everything, the horrors are many. Remember to be there 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: for the people close to you, and as isolated as 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: the world might make you feel right now, there are 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: millions of people feeling exactly like you. Our subreddit, our 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: slash Better Offline is a great place to start, as 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: I assure you that if you feel that isolation, the castigation, 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: the irritation by the push to put ai and everything, 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 1: you are anything but alone. We are feeling it. I'll 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: admit I've been kind of reeling myself. I've had family 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: stuff to take care of, all while being sick for 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: the best part of what is now three weeks. I 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: think it's tough to take a break when you have 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: so much to do, especially when the stuff you have 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: to do involves keeping up with the current events, and motherfucker, 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: we are in an event heavy era. I missed the 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: premium newsletter for the first time in months. In a 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: monologue for the first time since we started doing them, 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: felt guilty, which is ridiculous. You'll all tell me off 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: for saying it, But this show is built on sincerity, 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: so I'm going to say anyway, So give yourself a 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: little bit of a break. Everything is fucking rough, not 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: me though, not taking one of those don't get those now. 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: As I wrote in this week's newsletter, which I called 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: the beginning of History, things appear to be reaching a 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: breaking point. Let's catch up. A few weeks ago, Anthropic 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: and the Department of Defense got in an argument because 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: Anthropic wouldn't allow them to use Claude for domestic mass 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: surveillance or to control autonomous weapons, the former of which 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: is a stretch of what an MS can do, in 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: the latter of which is totally out of their capabilities. 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: As a result of this flimsy defiance, Anthropic was designated 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: a supply chain risk by the Department of Defense. This 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 1: immediately led to a depressing amount of people doing bullshit 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: we stand with Xanthropic Jesui Claude commentary suggesting that this 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: company was in any way ethically opposed to blowing things up. 44 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: Let me be blunt about how wrong you are if 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: you think this way. Anthropics Claude LLM was used in 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: the war in Iran. It isn't clear how, but it's 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: more than likely it was handled a bunch of data coordinates, images, targets, 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: and so on and asked what to do. This does 49 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: not mean it is powerful, or accurate, or really anything 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: other than a means of escaping the responsibility for choosing 51 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: who to kill. Dario Amerday really make no mistake about this. 52 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Loves war, enables war, and is a full supporter of 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: the US military, and I quote using AI to defend democracy, 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: which can mean literally anything that America wants it to. 55 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Just look at the history of fucking America. Similarly, Clammy 56 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: sam Altman immediately swept in to take Anthropics business once 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: the DoD kicked Anthropic out. And I want to go 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: into the nitty gritty because it's weeks old, but from 59 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: what I can tell, chat GBT will support all legal uses. 60 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: It's I really just fucking despise everyone involved. Here. I 61 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: think they're absolutely disgraceful. I think Sam Altman's muling bullshit 62 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: online about claiming he didn't actually agree to all legal 63 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: uses and would go to jail. You know what, Sammy, 64 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: if you go to jail, I'll come visit you, you little shit. 65 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: Yet something interesting happened as a result of all of 66 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: this bullshit. Anthropic Soap who will designate the supply chain 67 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: risk filed the lawsuit against the Department of Defense to 68 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: fight him, and in doing so had to include a 69 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: sign and a sworn affidavid from its chief financial officer, 70 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: Krishna Rao, which revealed, and this stunned me, that Anthropic 71 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: has had five billion dollars in lifetime revenue to date, 72 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: with to date referring to March ninth, twenty twenty six. 73 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: Now this flies in the face of basically every reported revenue, 74 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: including the information story and I like the information, I 75 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: pay for it. But this is important. That Anthropic had 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: made four point five billion dollars in twenty twenty twenty five, 77 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: and Anthropic's own statement that it had hit fourteen billion 78 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: dollars in annualized revenue on February twelfth, twenty twenty six, 79 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: which works out to about one point one six billion dollars. Interestingly, 80 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Anthropic also revealed it it's spent ten billion dollars on 81 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: model training and inference, which is the process of creating 82 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: an output in the same period. Now, the exact phrase 83 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: was exceeding five billion dollars to date. And my god, 84 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: my god. If your argument there, Boosters is oh, yeah, 85 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: well that could mean six billion or seven billion, right, 86 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: shut the fuck. I'm sorry. Can you please? Can you 87 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: put down the show? When Williams You've been eating for 88 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: a fucking second. And think Anthropic is incentivized in this 89 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: case to say it's making a lot of money because 90 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: all of this is in a filing begging the government 91 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: to not remove its ability to monetize public sector work. 92 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: But pretty much war, I really need to be clear. 93 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: I've been arguing with people about this for days. If 94 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: you add up all the annualized revenues, you get six 95 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: point sixty six billion dollars spooky, probably more if you 96 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: include missing months and such. It's very obvious that Anthropic 97 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: is misleading people because I don't know. I trust this 98 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: CFO in an affidavit far more than the leaks of 99 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: annualized revenues. I don't see the same alarm in the 100 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: tech journalism world or the business world. I just don't 101 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: see it. I don't see anyone giving much of a 102 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: fuck about this, despite this very likely meaning everybody has 103 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: been misled for years. Let's simplify. Anthropic has raised more 104 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: than sixty billion dollars, with thirty billion dollars of that 105 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 1: arriving on or around February twelfth. It made five billion 106 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: dollars in revenue time and spent ten billion dollars in 107 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: training and influence costs a loan. Just think about that 108 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: for a second. Previously, before that new money, they'd had 109 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: thirty billion dollars, they spent ten billion on influence in training, 110 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: and they made five billion dollars of revenue. So just 111 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: I guess like tens of billions of dollars just fucking 112 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: annihilated there. This company's a dog. It's very obvious that 113 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 1: its leaked revenues have either been inflated or outright lies. 114 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: And in the end, Anthropic is just kind of a 115 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: piece of shit. You know what, It's time for a 116 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: little rant. And while I think you'll all enjoy this, 117 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: this is really targeted at those be that are yet 118 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: to be swayed by my arguments. I hear all of 119 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: this crap about AI changing everything, but where's the proof? Wow, 120 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: anthropic managed to turn thirty billion dollars into five billion 121 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: dollars and start one of the single most annoying debates 122 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: in history. Where's the money? Who is actually getting a 123 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: profit out of AI? In video? The companies that make 124 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: RAM because it doesn't seem to be the company's buying 125 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: the GPUs. It doesn't seem to be the AI companies either. 126 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's true. But if you believe it, 127 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: you believe that code is truly being automated away to 128 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: what end? What are the actual documented economic effects we 129 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: can point to, and what are the actual meaningful changes 130 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: to the world. Also, are you not a little bit 131 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: concerned about how much code might be written that people 132 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: do not read, let alone understand. Because I'm learning a 133 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: little bit about code right now, very slowly, learning to code, 134 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: and the more I learn, the more I realize that 135 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: it's important to understand what it fucking does. But you 136 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: know what AI boosters, If you're listening, I don't know 137 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: how many of you do, but please, if you talk 138 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: about the magic of AI and why we should be 139 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: excited about AI. I need you to start talking today 140 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: and use real data. Something from today, please. You are 141 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: legally banned from saying the words soon or in the future. 142 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: All of my stuff has to be in the present, 143 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: So your should to point to one thing from today, 144 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: from today's models that even remotely justifies burning and nearly 145 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: a trillion dollars and filling our Internet full of slop, 146 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: and creating the moral distance from an action that might 147 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: have blown up a fucking school in Iran, and empowering 148 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: the theft of millions of people's work, and having to 149 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: hear every fucking day about Sam Altman and Dario Amma 150 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: day to terrifyingly boring and annoying oaths with no culture 151 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: and no whimsy in their wretched little hearts. Oh wow, 152 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: So you can code a clone of an open source 153 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: software project, all set up with an LM that may 154 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: or may not get the code right? Do you really 155 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: need this? Is this really impressing you? I want to 156 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: be clear that my position is sincere. I do not 157 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: see a path out of this for large language models. 158 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: I have sat and thought about how I might be 159 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: wrong far more than I've searched for how I might 160 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: be right. This industry cannot sustain itself and is not 161 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: in any way trending towards viability, let alone profitability. This 162 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: is not a game for me. I am not on 163 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: a team. I think you are all cresting the wave 164 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: of the end of the software industry's growth era. I 165 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: think you think Sam Moltman is your friend. I think 166 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: you think open ai is your sports team. I think 167 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: you think large language models are something you need to 168 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: align with. I think you think this is fucking fun. 169 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: It isn't. It's a waste. Open Ai and Anthropic are 170 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: not selling great software. And even if you somehow think 171 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,239 Speaker 1: that they are, their software business sucks absolute ass. Anthropics 172 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: spend two dollars for every dollar it made just on 173 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: training and inference, and that's before sales and marketing. That's 174 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: before real state, and that's before the actual people. That's 175 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: not just crap, it's shit. How much of what you 176 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: love about AI is actually rooted in the present. Are 177 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: you having fun? I'm having fun because I enjoy writing 178 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: and reading my podcast. If I worked in the technology 179 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: industry full time right now, I'd want to cry my 180 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: fucking eyes out. It's a depressing, ugly time where bosses 181 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: talk endlessly about stuff that doesn't work and force their 182 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: work is to push it on their customers, all while 183 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: losing money. It's a fucking cult built on debt and theft, 184 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: and I'm sick of hearing about it, and even more 185 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: sick of hearing that I should be scared of it. 186 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm not scared of AI. I'm scared of the financial 187 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: apocalypse that come. I recently read a terrifying stat the 188 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: other day from Apollo's Asset Sorry, Apollo Asset Management's John Zito, 189 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: who said that between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty two, 190 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: software accounted for thirty to forty percent of private equity 191 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: leveraged by outs, the specific era in which venture capitals 192 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: stopped providing reliable returns and private equity's own growth started 193 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: to slow. Worse still, the largest software leveraged buyouts of 194 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one to twenty twenty four were financed with 195 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: anywhere from fifty percent to ninety percent debt. In very 196 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: simple terms, p firms brought brought into software companies, and 197 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: bought software companies they believe would grow forever, pumping them 198 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: full of debt, taking on debt to buy them, and 199 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: did so based on the growth trajectory of software companies 200 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: from twenty five to twenty eighteen, a completely different era 201 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: when there were tons more lands to conquer and tons 202 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: of growth ideas still left to build. I that was 203 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: a weird noise, but I'm going to keep it. We're 204 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: past that. I think we're running out, if we haven't 205 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: run out already. As I said a few years ago 206 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: in the rod Com bubble, I believe we're at the 207 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: end of software's hypergrowth era, and the come up and 208 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: has begun, with forty six point nine billion dollars of 209 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: software debt now distressed, which means likely to be paid, 210 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: unlikely to be paid even. All of this has also 211 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: been happening as software growth has slowed across the board 212 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: because there are only so many things you could sell 213 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: and only so many people to sell them too. Genera. 214 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: IFAI was meant to be the solution here, it was 215 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: meant to be the panacea that would restart growth in 216 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: the software sector, allowing software as a service companies to 217 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: upsell their clients, create new SaaS companies that venture capital 218 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: and private equity could invest in, and usher in that 219 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: new era of hypergrowth. Instead, large language models are unprofitable, 220 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: lack significant renovative features that make selling new software possible, 221 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: and outside of open AI and anthropic do not appear 222 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: to have much revenue potential at all. Most businesses don't 223 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: even break out their specific AI revenue. IBM literally just 224 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: stopped doing so, and eight percent of their generative AI 225 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: revenue was consultancy services hawking it to people that didn't 226 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: really need AI, but they needed to start doing AI 227 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: because their shareholders would kill them. But here's a good example. 228 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: Sales Force, which makes tens of billions of dollars a year. Well, 229 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: they revealed that they had eight hundred million dollars of 230 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: anualized revenue for their agent force chat bop. That works 231 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: out to about sixty seven things million dollars a month. 232 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: That's boopy. That's dogshit. And if you disagree, you don't 233 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: know fucking finance, and you're living in a dream. But 234 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: who is the dreamer? We are both at an end 235 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: and a beginning, a reckoning for decades of hubris and 236 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: a punishment for those who believe that all software would 237 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: grow in perpetuity. I don't know what happens next. But 238 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: I do know that we're at the beginning of history, 239 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: and that looking at the past as a way of 240 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: confirming your biases about everything is a mistake. You need 241 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: to start looking at the fundamentals. If you don't, if 242 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: you're a booster, if you're an AI fan listening to this, 243 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: if you're someone that writes about tech, and you're still 244 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: in the aim, you need to start proving your arguments 245 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: because when this collapses, and I'm confident it will, you're 246 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: going to look like a fucking idiot. Now, some of 247 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: you might be not so bad, there are many of 248 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: you that won't. Many of you have taken a kind 249 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: of middle ground, a centrist position. We all know how 250 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: those work out. It's time to start looking at the fundamentals, 251 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: and it's time to stop looking at the dot com bubble, 252 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: or looking at uber, looking at whatever little myth you 253 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: have to pretend that all of this is going to 254 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: work out if you can prove me wrong. I look 255 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: forward to reading it or hearing it, but it's been 256 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: years and nobody appears to have tried. I really don't 257 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: know what will happen next, but I'll be here to 258 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: explain what I know. Every single week. Thank you for listening.