WEBVTT - Fins Flashback with Oronde Gadsden 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:16.560 Field touchdown, Miami Run. What is up? Dolphins? And welcome 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.960 to the drive Time Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:24.600 official podcast network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins, each 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.680 and every day. How's it going, everybody? We made it 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.320 to another Friday. I am your host, Travis Wingfield here 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.839 to bring you your daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.120 And on today's show, we'll get you caught up on 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.760 the latest Friday injury port for Dolphins and Bengals. We'll 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.880 get to John Conjemmi's three takeaways. We'll welcome Seth and 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:45.680 o J on the podcast to ask me to every 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.360 single Friday. But the main event on this episode of 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.520 Drive Time, Ronde Gatston joins us to flash it back 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.360 to two thousand the Dolphins take down the Bengals in 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.280 that season. We'll talk to Ronde Gatson about that, all 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.480 of that more on this Friday, December the four edition 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:07.480 of the Drivetime Podcast. Drive Time is brought to you 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.840 by Auto Nation. Hey Dolphins fans, the New year starts 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.560 now at Auto Nation. Let's skip the rest of and 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.479 get to big New Year's savings on your favorite Auto 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:22.319 Nation Chevy's Force, Toyota's Hondas and much more. 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DeAndre Washington and Savan Akman are doubtful. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.760 The team has not declared their intentions on running back 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.760 Miles gasking whether or not he's coming off the injured reserve. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.360 Coach Flora said they have to talk with the personnel staff, 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.200 with Brandon Shore, Marvin Allen, and of course general manager 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.720 Chris Greer. Questionable on the game is going to be 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.880 offensive lineman Solomon Kinley, and running back Matt Breed is 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.320 dealing with an illness. He was back there for Friday's practice. 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.600 They're gonna update us as soon as they can, said 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.000 coach Flora. So plenty of questions about the Dolphins injury 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.919 report heading into this game for the Bengals. And joining 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.399 me now on this Friday edition of the Drive Time 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.320 Podcast is former Dolphins receiver Orande Gadsden. He's out in 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.079 front of the Golden gate Bridge right now on the 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.000 zoom call. I'm not sure where you are in real life, 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:29.600 but Orande, thanks for joining me, man, I appreciate it. Hey, man, 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.640 no problem. Give me a second, let me give a 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:35.280 mask together, and then uh we can continue. But thanks 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.760 for having me. Yeah, no problem. Always got to have 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.840 the mask at his life here in And we have 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.000 you on today to talk about the two thousand game 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.000 against the Bengals. But first I want to ask you. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.440 We had you on back in the summer talking about 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.560 my personal all time favorite Dolphins game two thousand two 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.720 at the Denver Broncos, a big Sunday night football win, 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.160 and you and I had kind of exchanged some texts 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.520 about getting that game into your hands. Did you ever 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.799 have a chance to watch that game? Yeah? I kind 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.919 of agree with you. Man. That's probably in my top 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.520 at least my top five of football games played. Man, 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.280 that was a good, hard hitting game. Yeah, you got 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.400 it to me and I watched that. I even watched 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.680 it with h Patsertan and we we had h a 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.680 lot of laughs and uh brought back a lot of memories. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.720 How often do you do that? Like? Is that something 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:23.720 you would do more often if you had more more 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:27.200 games available to you? Ah? Yeah, just the good ones 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.720 I'm show. We would pick one or two of them. Uh. Sale. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.680 He probably has a few games like that Radar game. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.240 He he talks about that quite often, about the Jay 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.880 Rice interception. And you know, I got one of two 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.320 of the codes games that I like to But we 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.960 definitely go go back down the memory land if we 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.560 had chance. We got to get Pat on the podcast 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:47.920 here one of these days. I know he's a big 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.480 time high school football coach these days, taking boys over 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.040 to state championships every single year. So that's cool, man. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:55.280 I would love to be a fly on the wall 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.000 in that room watching games with you guys. Uh. Today, 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.120 we're going back to two thousand, a game against the 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.360 Cincinnati Bengals. Dolphins are hosting the Bengals this Sunday at 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.360 hard Rock Stadium, so we're doing flashback with the Bengals. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.600 And this was your first season a Ronde without Dan 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.280 at quarterback. And at that point Dan started all thirty 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.240 two games of your career at that point. What was 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.440 the feeling among the receivers and yourself when Dan retired 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.520 and you had to go into the two thousand season 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.200 with a little bit of an unknown at the quarterback position. 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.400 It was kind of tough, you know, Um, you know, 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:34.840 losing Dan and knowing what kind of person he was, 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.880 and you know he was a gun slinger and you 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:40.040 know he was he was wanting to throw at our 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.840 costs and didn't know much about Jay, just knew Jay 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.239 hung up a few testdowns on us that Jacksonville game. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.480 But we we we quickly got acclimated to Jay and 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.960 and found out he was just as tough as nails 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.039 and you do everything he can to win the game 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.520 and as to receive. That's all you need to know. Yeah, 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.480 that's that's a great prelude to the next question here, 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.800 because he obviously goes and wins the job in camp 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:07.400 over Damon Heward. And you mentioned the toughness and something 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.040 that maybe maybe back then it was different, But to me, 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.920 you can't really prove that metal without playing a true 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.320 regular season game, but maybe back then you could did 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.120 did you guys see that in his training camp in 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.279 the preseason, Like did you see that toughness and that 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.000 kind of gritty mentality that we knew he had later 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:32.560 early on fanning camp. Obviously going forward, we thought Damon 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.560 Hewitt was our guy because we played a few games 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.240 with him, uh before and when when Damn was injured 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.839 one of two games. But I think j J showed 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.120 it wanted training camp, and uh we followed his lead. 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.120 We knew he wasn't you know, gonna gonna win games 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.600 pretty but we were gonna win games because he do 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.880 what we needed to be done to win the games. 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:56.960 And so I think, you know, just like now, I 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:01.200 think the running, the running asked act of it, you know, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.680 playing a big pot and us you know, knowing we 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.760 had a great defense, we just need to get some 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:10.400 first downs and and get get Lindo in position too, 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.800 and we win the game. But we knew Jews, I mean, 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.880 Jay head, what it took. Yeah. So for your younger 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.719 Dolphins fans out there, and look a look at me 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.080 being the old wise one these days. But for your 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.000 younger Dolphins fans before Jason Sanders and Linda Mario was 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.800 money in the bank as well. So you heard AROUNDE 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.520 talk about his ability to put the ball through the 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.800 uprights back in those days. But in this season, you 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.120 guys start off three and one, you're on the road 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.039 against a winless team, and they come out and jump 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.000 on a damn good Dolphins team with a thirteen nothing lead. 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.520 Now I'm curious to get your take here because Dick 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.680 lebou this is his first game as interim head coach 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.280 for them after they fired their previous head coach, and 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.080 at this point of the game, like, do they have 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.320 a little bit of that new interim head coach juice 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:55.919 coming out of the gates? Why do you think in 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.159 your opinion, it took you guys a minute to get 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.440 going in that game. You know how tough it is 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.480 man going up against win this team. I think you 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.200 sometimes played down to your your opponents and for them 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.920 to score two touches, for them to have thirteen points 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.720 and our defense that was that was pretty That was 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.360 pretty tough. That doesn't usually happen right away, Like you 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.960 may get thirteen points in the game, but not not 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.800 thirteen points right away, and so um, you know, uh, 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.480 it's a it's a team game. And so the defense 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.040 was uh lacking a bit. So the offense had to 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.840 step up, which usually is the other way around. And 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:35.520 we're gonna talk a little bit more about one of 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.720 those players on that defense that made us so good, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.880 Zack Thomas. Also coming up on the Hall of Fame 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.640 ballot once again. Let's get him into Canton this year finally. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.760 But you may, yes, yes, we we all think it 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.440 should happen eventually. I think it will. Hopefully this is 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.680 the year. But back to this game. And you know, 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.400 we actually talked with Channing last week about a Broncos 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.760 game or two weeks ago, and he Jack made like 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.680 four goal line stands in a row. It's just I 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:00.800 can talk about that guy all night long, man, But 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.200 let's let's transition here. Uh. You mentioned them scoring some 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.280 points early. One of the ways they did score was 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.080 a Peter Warwick how's that name? For a flashback? He 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.680 caught up one handed touchdown in the back of the 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.960 end zone. And we referenced your appearance on Drive Time 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.840 this summer already we talked about that Broncos game and 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.640 since that was the same year as your fame one 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.040 famed one handed sprawled out stab on the infield dirt 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.680 there Pro Player Stadium, we went in on that catch, 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.000 you and I did. So if you guys want to 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.000 catch orande breaking down that catch, go back to the 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.520 summer's episode and check it out. But I'm wondering, since 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.040 that was kind of your move at that stage in 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.079 the NFL, like guys weren't making the one handed catches 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:39.640 like to do now like it was your move in 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.920 my opinion, did that play maybe make you think yourself, 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:44.680 all right, it's my turn to go make a play. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.280 Not really like like I said, I saw him doing. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.640 It was a great kids, you know you you know 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:56.200 what Peter Warred did it uh Flowing State, and you 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.959 know what he did earlier at the Bengals. It was 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.320 just you know, it's just competition. That's what it's all about. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.400 If he if he could do it, I know I 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.640 could do it, and you you want the ball. I 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.680 don't think you see it, but but you feel it inside. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.280 And I think everybody knows, like, oh man, he did 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.720 a one hand the kids? Uh can can you? Because 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.440 you do want to show him up? But I don't 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.640 think it was sad, but I think it was in fur. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.560 You certainly did. You went out there and made a 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.520 couple of plays and you know, speaking of Peter Work, 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.559 I would love to see Peter Work in today's NFL. 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.559 He might fit a little more than he did back 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.520 down with a more physical and bruising type of game. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.200 But uh, that's besides the point. But you know I 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.680 mentioned this. You did score two touchdowns in this game, 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.120 and both of those were on fade routes. Now, help 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.400 me out here, Randi, because I have to imagine that 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.280 your play style, your body composition, all that stuff, the 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.839 big strong hands, I have to imagine you love the 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.680 fade route. So without a doubt, I think you know, 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.920 coming from a basketball background, just like a lot of 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.920 the receivers today are coming from. I think when you 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:00.400 get a match up against a smaller corner that that 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.440 just helps us, you know. And and so if you 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.280 if you get time to jump and you've worked with it, 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.480 you know, with the quarterback a few times, I think 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.960 you can master and that it was just something that 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.319 I was used to doing coming from Winston Salem State 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.080 and it was just second nature to me. Well, so 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:20.000 help me out here, because and I don't know how 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.360 much you get on social media Rounde, maybe not at all, 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:26.600 but a lot of smart move a lot of fans, 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.640 and we even seen we saw two touchdowns that I 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.080 can recall off top of my head this year from 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.760 Devonte Parker and mac Hollins, one in Denver, one in 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:36.520 Arizona where they caught touchdowns on fade type of routes 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.040 into the corner of the end zone. But if you 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.080 go on social media, if a team calls a fade 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:42.920 route and it doesn't go complete, because that's how this 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.000 lead works. If it doesn't work, you're not smart. If 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.160 it does work, your genius. But they'll see these fade 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.360 routes fall to the turf and they lose their minds. 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.520 So help help me convince fans of fade routes are 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.760 not the worst thing in the world. No, no, definitely not. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:11:00.320 I think, once again, it takes practice. But I think 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.760 more times than not, I think, you know, well, when 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.360 a deep ball is more fifty fifty, I think a 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:13.080 fade route with with with practice is at least seventy thirty. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.360 So I think, uh, you know, it's best to throw, 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.800 especially when you have a high difference. I think, uh, 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.559 you know. I watched Holland's obviously he has the eighties 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.240 six on, so so I watched him and it was 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.200 a perfect thrown ball and he went up and called 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.319 it in the one in uh Denver. I think the 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.520 d bunting Farker Canting had to foot out of bounds. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.760 I think, uh uh. Just the other day, I think, 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.199 and so um, if you if you got the height 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.200 of bands, if you used use six three six four 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.959 and you gotta dB five tan, I think, yeah, odds 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.240 are definitely in your favor. So that's a great prelude 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.040 into the next question here. I think it was at 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.360 the jetson It might have been like two thousand six. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.600 I know it was after your playing career. But there 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.439 was one instance where they flexed out Jason Taylor who 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.880 came in and checked in as a tight eligible and 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.760 they flexed him out and I'll never forget the still image. 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.640 It was him lined up like a wide receiver. He 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.880 had a little stance, he was probably feeling himself, and 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.760 they put a little five ten cornerback out there and 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.800 it was just like, okay, that's where the ball has 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.120 to go. And they did it, and the cornerback just 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.600 pulls him down by the part of the inside call 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.120 it collar bone on the front of the jersey. It 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.040 was hilarious to watch. So the reason that's a good 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.720 example to lead into here was because JT had a 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.200 huge play in this game, a strip, sack and score 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.360 the hat trick. He loved doing it. You guys are 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.200 down thirteen to three at this point in the game. 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.240 First off, there's eight seconds left in the first half. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.040 They've got the ball at the minus thirty five yard line. 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.040 Are you thinking to yourself, what the hell are they 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.880 doing putting the ball up in the air right now? Yeah? 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.240 I mean we all thought they'd run the clock out 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.040 and we go in and have to come up with 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:50.440 a different game plan. But you know, like I said 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:54.720 that that defense, specially with the the back half of 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.040 it be having you know, Patt and Sam and with 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.280 Zach in the middle and and j T coming coming 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.480 off the edge. You know, but passing was good luck, 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.199 you know what I mean? So, uh, they passed and 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.679 j T did he do the Jordan on that one 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.480 at the end when he scored up the goal line. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.600 Was that that the one you know he did? He 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.280 always did it. Yeah, So that that was that was 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.480 a big deal. That was you know that that was 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.400 a big deal in a in a bunch of ways, 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.800 for him, man for us. So, um, you know he's 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:26.360 a great athlete. Um, you know we we we we still. 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:28.959 I still see him all the time. Uh he I'm 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.360 at I'm at American Hair it is. He's at St. 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.559 Thomas and so we we coach against each other. We 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:38.120 we we play, we played football, still live flag football. 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.000 So I see j t all the time. These South 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.400 Florida kids are so lucky to have so many former 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.959 Dolphins and alumni coaching down here. I'll go for a 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.360 walk sometimes around the neighborhood and all look across the 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.800 park and there's there's kids working out. Man Like, it's 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.640 just different down here. I love being around this football culture. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.920 It's so cool. But we we mentioned Jason Taylor there. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.840 You know, his favorite playing football the hat trick, the strip, sack, 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.040 scoop and score and from there it goes, you know, 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.240 from thirteen to three and the final score of the 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.520 game winds up being thirty one sixteen. So you guys 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.800 just roll them up there. That that's tech, the kind 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.880 of play that just changes the course of the game, 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:14.040 right yeah. I mean, you know it's tough to say, 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.960 but if you if you play in any tipe of sports, 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.360 you know, frequently up for a long time. You know, 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.240 momentum is real and and so when you're playing the game, 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:28.480 especially when you're behind you anything, anything changes momentum. And 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.040 play like that definitely does. When he when he sacks, 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.440 get the fumble and score, that gives us points. Uh, 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.200 without the offense being on the field. It's great and 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.000 gives an offense some juice as well because they know 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.840 we only have to score, you know, once or twice 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.600 to get ahead, and then the defense is probably gonna 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.720 be solid as usual. And you were the one that 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.840 went on to score once or twice it was two times. 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:51.960 In fact, finished the game with thirty one of the 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.320 final thirty four points. You moved to four and one. 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.880 You wind up that season eleven and five, You win 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:02.000 a playoff game, the epic Colts overtime victory Lamar Smith game. 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.120 Was that your favorite? Was that your favorite year as 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:09.080 a pro? Around a two thousand? I think so? I 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:13.520 think you know, um uh, everybody had been on top 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.440 of that game. Um you know, we we we we 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:20.800 did everything we were supposed to do. Um. Eleven and 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.840 five was was you know in the NFC East, was 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.400 what was tough to do and we did it, and 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.560 we went onto the playoff game of Lamar themar had 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:34.960 a great game, uh at home. I think that's still 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.480 been the last home playoff game that we won, so 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.120 um that that still sticks out. And I think he 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.680 might have had like forty two carries to win the game. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.560 So that was that was pretty That was a pretty tough, 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.200 ruggy game. But things were things. Football was just different then. Um, 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.640 you know, football is is great now, but I just 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:00.920 think back then, when when the rules were different, football 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.080 is a lot tougher, the wins were harder to come by, 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.600 and you just love playing the game. So I think 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.000 if I had looked back that level of five, ye, 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.200 it was probably probably my best year as a pro. 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.680 So maybe maybe you can maybe you cannot answer this, 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.920 but you mentioned, you know, getting that tough win and 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.040 the playoffs over time. Lamar carries the ball over forty 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.440 times two hundred something yards the game when he touchdown. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.880 What was what was that night like for you guys, Like, 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.160 because you obviously had to prepare for the Raiders and 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.480 if I'm correct, if I'm wrong here, but I think 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.600 it was on Saturday, so you're already on a short week, 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.800 like did you really have time to truly enjoy what 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:35.680 you guys did that day or was it like we 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.480 got to get back to work already. Um, it was tough. 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.040 We we enjoyed that one. It went in over time, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.680 and you know how tough the Colts are, and and 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.200 you know that the main thing is when you go 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.480 into playoffs and have to play, you want a home game. 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.080 And so um we we kind of played as hard 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.200 as we couldn't a regular season to get that game. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.080 And then we knew that game it was gonna be 0:16:57.120 --> 0:16:58.840 tough because that that that at that time, it was 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:02.040 the third time we played the Coats, and so it's 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.360 tough to be beat any team once as far as 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.120 you know, having to play him three times. So, um, 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.640 we we enjoyed that one, knowing it was a show week. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.560 We you know, a lot of the team, a lot 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.520 of the players on that team were veterans and we've 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.719 done it before. It didn't always work out for us 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.679 the best because I think that the Jacksonville game was 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.520 on the show a week as well, and so we 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:25.560 knew it was gonna be tough, and you know, we 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.479 had to go out of the Raiders. It didn't didn't 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.320 didn't go the way we wanted it to go. But 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.160 I think, you know, looking back on it, that's still 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.760 one of the best games that that was. That was 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.639 a team every but it was a bruising game. We 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.920 didn't we didn't pass a lot and if you look back, 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.119 I I did give a good block to Spring the 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.600 mall for the touchdown and over time. But anyway, who's 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.680 who's who's counting? Hey, I count it. I just asked 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.160 coach Grizzard a couple of weeks ago, the receiver's coaching 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.119 for the Dolphins, about blocking, and he said, if you 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.160 don't block in this room, you're not gonna play. So 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.440 good company there rounde Gas and good company we're actually 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.640 every Friday arounde we have SETH and O J from 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.480 the Fish Tank podcast. They're gonna come on after you 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.879 and talk about this game as well. So it's funny, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.520 you man the eight six with Mac Hollins because o 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.520 J he has an affinity for the eighty one jersey, 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:15.200 so you kind of have that same thing with eighty six. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.600 we we we we have uh as older guys. We 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.000 we we got a group of us, probably four five 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.440 us who look all over the league to see who 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.440 has it. Uh Tonio Freeman was one of those guys. 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.040 He had it in in Green Bay and we talk 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.600 all the time about what the other eighties six is doing. 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:35.560 So yeah, that that that is, that is kind of 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.120 near and dear to you because you know the people 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.879 that have it. It's not a it's not a glorious number, 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.480 but you make do with it, and you know the 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.000 people that have and especially if you do something with it, 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.040 then we we we definitely welcome you to the club 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:52.080 eighty six. You're talking about a language, man, because I 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.520 am team I will say it till the day I'm dead. 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.040 Receivers should be wearing eighties, not the team Jerseys. Man, 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.000 give me the eighties. Yeah, yeah, get the eighties back, 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.159 you know, because we all you know Jay Rice, Michael 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.840 Ivan man, they did they embedded in their hands. Man. 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.600 We grew up watching Jerry Rice and Michael Irvan. They 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.960 had the eighties numbers and those were I got my 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.720 guys anyway, and you wanted you wanted to emulate them, 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.200